Jeff Goldblum

0:03Lennie Ware: Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Lennie, looking very glam.

0:08Jessie Ware: Do I look glam? You do.

0:10Lennie Ware: You really, like, you're rocking the walking stick, which won't be with you forever. We know the hit won't always be bad. Yeah, I hope so.

0:17Jessie Ware: But you are rocking it. The old, like, you know, camel beige, camo stuff. I didn't bring my leopard print one. I brought my white kind of Dalmatian print today.

0:28Lennie Ware: Yeah, okay. How are you, Mum? I'm not bad, darling. I've had such a fun week. Tell me. I went to Ontiv. Well, via Corsica on the tarmac for six hours. Corsica?

0:41Jessie Ware: Why Corsica is out of... It's annoying. Not even on the mainland.

0:45Lennie Ware: Thunderstorms, honestly. Oh, no. But luckily, I could watch six or... No, eight hours of Off Campus, my favourite thing.

0:56Jessie Ware: Tell me.

0:57Lennie Ware: Mum, I think you'd like it.

0:58Jessie Ware: Coming of age, ice hockey.

1:01Lennie Ware: Who's in it? Nerd. Gorgeous. Will they, won't they? Gorgeous. Loved it.

1:06Jessie Ware: I'm working on the pit, darling. Okay. No, this is right to release. It's great.

1:10Lennie Ware: So I watched that. I had the funnest time. I was with Zimmerman in Antibes. Who's Zimmerman? Zimmerman is an amazing brand, Australian brand. And it related to Bob Dylan? Don't think so. Two gorgeous gals, Nikki and Simone, started their company, like selling beachwear on the beach in Bondi, I think. And now we're like highly successful. Did you wear an outfit? I mean, they did that 35 years ago. I wore a few outfits. Met fabulous people. We danced. Did you eat well? Did I? It was delicious.

1:43Jessie Ware: So there was a formal dinner? Yeah, everything was just so beautifully done. I'm so pleased you had another couple of days holiday. Well, you know, I was working the room. Okay, darling.

1:54Lennie Ware: No, it was really fun and I felt very lucky to be there. But now I'm back to reality. And we have the most fantastic guest today, Jeff Goldblum.

2:04Jessie Ware: I wondered if he was going to fly in. Why? He was the fly. David Cronenberg's The Fly. Was he? Don't you remember? Never saw it. It was the most terrifying film I've ever seen in my life.

2:15Lennie Ware: Yeah.

2:16Jessie Ware: He metamorphosises into a fly.

2:18Lennie Ware: Okay. Oh, yeah, I remember this. Yeah. Well, no.

2:21Jessie Ware: I doubt he will. No. He looked very jaunty on his Wikipedia page with his kind of pork pie hat. Looks very jazzy.

2:29Lennie Ware: Yeah, well, jazzy is correct. He has a new jazz album out called Night Blooms and it's out today whilst we record it. And so it's got Cynthia Erivo on there doing a duet. Ariana. Scarlett Johansson. Scarlett Johansson. Does she sing? Yeah. I didn't know. Mum, she was a fantastic hedgehog in Sing.

2:50Jessie Ware: Oh, I didn't know, darling. Yeah. I'm very interested that we're all blooming at the table

2:55Lennie Ware: Oh yeah, night blooms, super blooms Yeah, very good So he's coming on to talk about the new jazz album He's doing a run of shows He's doing the Royal Albert Hall Which is such a great venue And some European dates So yeah, and on the menu today He's a pescatarian, dairy free So I wanted to do something from my friend's new cookbook So it's Med-esque It's by Georgina Hayden She's an amazing Greek secret chef That's her new one. Yeah. She's such a wonderful chef. She's a brilliant human being. And this is her new cookbook.

3:29Jessie Ware: And really easy recipes.

3:30Lennie Ware: Really great recipes. So I've gone for the baked cod, fennel and olives with couscous. Nice. So it's got a little bit of saffron in there, fennel seeds, coriander seeds. Do it with a bit of fish stock. It seems very straightforward. Good. So I'm doing it with some couscous and I've just pan fried some pistachios that I've chopped up. Because I make the couscous a bit prettier. and then she's also got a really good green salad in there that I'm doing with it. Okay. And then you've done pudding. Yeah.

3:57Jessie Ware: So he didn't want anything with dairy, which is kind of restrictive for pud. So I've made Elizabeth's fruit salad. Oh, cousin Elizabeth. Yeah. So it's a tropical fruit salad. Yep. But it's got ginger in. Stem ginger. And I bought lychees on the internet. Tinned lychees. Tin lychees, which came as a kind of catering tin. So it's got tinned lychees and stem ginger in. and I hope it's delicious and some lime juice. Great, amazing. I made an enormous amount so that my grandchildren can have it. Okay, amazing, thank you.

4:27Lennie Ware: Jeff Goldblum coming up on Table Mines.

4:38Lennie Ware: Jeff, you're here and you came in with, well, the sophistication and... Gorgeous. Gorgeousness that we have come to know of you, but it's real. You're here, you smell delicious. What is that scent? Oh, interesting you should say. Oh, it's still lingering. Oh, it's gorgeous. Can I guess? Yeah. Kiel's Mask. Exactly. How did you know that? And now I'm going to kill you. Like that book. I know, I know. I love that smell. Yeah, yeah. It's such a good one. Are you sporting anything particular? I've got everything but perfect one for you, Jen. I've got nothing. I've got odour. I'm still walking by taking the kids to school.

5:21Lennie Ware: You've got Oda. I've got nothing. I've got fish stock on my hands. Oda card.

5:25Jessie Ware: Feels good. Nothing. I've got Chloe on. Don't write about that. But I always love Chloe. Oh, hey, that's nice.

5:32Lennie Ware: Oh, God. Damn, I should have put something on.

5:34Jessie Ware: And then he'd have snuggled into your neck.

5:37Lennie Ware: Listen, I'll get it for dessert. How are you? I'm so happy to be here. I'm fine and dandy. Thank you. You have a good love affair with the UK. We love you. You kind of love us, I think. Not kind of. I love you very, very much. I've always, I've been here. I've done a lot of things here. I've read all of P.G. Woodhouse. I pester people by reading it out loud to people over the years. And then I've done things here. I was in, you know, I was in the first movie that Emma Thompson ever did. Which one was that? The Tall Guy, that Richard Curtis. It was his first script that he did. And Emma Freud. I love them.

6:15them. I've done Red Nosedays things. I'm crazy about him. We've hung out with him recently with them and their kids. Love them. And then I did some at the Old Vic, you know, and I was on the West End. Oh, I love it. I love it here. And we filmed Wicked here. Yeah, you were there for ages. Yeah, we were there for ages. And then we filmed the last Jurassic Park movie that I did. In England? Yep, in England. God, we've got dinosaurs in England, yeah. We filmed it at Shep... Shep... Sheperton. Sheperton. There's Elf Street in Sheperton. Wicked we did it at Elstree and Sky. We were at Sheppard, and we were the first people to go out pretty much during COVID, so before they had the vaccine and everything.

6:54So we were all going, but my kids were there, and we all sequestered ourselves for a while there. Yes, I love England.

7:01Lennie Ware: How long are you here for? I'm here for, well, you know, I'm spending a lot of time in Florence with my family. We, the kids, River and Charlie, 9 and 10, go to Lise Francaise in Los Angeles. And they have many sister schools. And we have found ourselves in Florence for the last four years. And they go there. So we're a hop, skip, and a jump away from here. So I'm around here. And then we just toured with our band. Yes, there's the record. Today is the release date. Congratulations. Thank you so much. It's so gorgeous.

7:38Jessie Ware: Did you listen to it?

7:39Lennie Ware: Yeah, I listen too. It's wonderful. Yeah, Night Blooms. It's just gorgeous. And your last album was, of course, Super Blooms.

7:45Jessie Ware: Yeah, well, that's what we were saying. You're all blooming here.

7:48Lennie Ware: Listen, and it's such a beautiful cover. It's got, you know, everyone from Melody Gardot. Oh, I love her. Ariana's on there. You know what she sings? Melody Gardot sings Misty on there. Yeah, it's really good.

8:01Jessie Ware: No, I heard it. It was beautiful. Look at me. I'm as helpless as a kitten. Wow, talk about a voice. No, I can't sing at all. You sing up a storm. Cynthia's on there.

8:13Lennie Ware: You've got a duet with Cynthia, haven't you? Oh, a duet with Cynthia Erivo. Yeah. I saw her opening night in Dracula. Oh, don't. I didn't get to go see it. And I saw her at the Hollywood Bowl doing Jesus Christ Superstar. That looked insane. That was fantastic. So anyway, she's great. Yes, we do a song from The Wizard of Oz. We do a duet of If I Only Had a Brain. How about that? I know. Who had that idea? Like, was that you on set? No, no. We, you know, we were singing everything on set, and then Ariana signed up for something. You know, I started to sing, I don't know why I love you like I do.

8:52I don't know why I just do. She said, why are you singing that? My grandfather sang that to me all the time. So I said, hey, you want to record with us? And then she said, yeah. And then Cynthia sang something. She sings, you know, Cynthia sings, we'll meet again. Oh, she does that one? Yeah. Yeah, she did that before, and there's another version of that here and then we do If I Only Had a Brain. I have a brilliant group that we play with. Our guys, Alex Frank is our musical director and they help pick songs and they're very smart.

9:19Jessie Ware: But you're performing this at the Royal Albert Hall. So here's what's happened. So the question originally was what am I doing around here? How long am I here? We've been around these parts now for a little bit because we've been touring. We went to Wolverhampton and to Manchester we were just in where I presented Olivia Dean with a Brit Award a little bit ago. And Leve was on stage. I went on stage with Leve there. And then she returned the favor at the Troubadour.

9:45Lennie Ware: Amazing. Amazing. The Troubadour in Los Angeles. Yes. And then we're going to go to the Ottawa Jazz Festival in a little bit. Wow. And then we're going to go to Royal Albert Hall. Have you played there before? We were there a few years ago on a Remembrance Day. Okay. Very movingly and importantly. And we played one song in the program. Now we're going to be there for this thing with a new kind of show with a 57-piece orchestra.

10:15Jessie Ware: Wow. The sound is fabulous in there. Yes. It's my favorite place to sing. Really? You've sung there many times?

10:22Lennie Ware: I've done lots of kind of fundraisers there or charity events there. And I just love it. You look out and it's just glorious. You'll love it. You'll love it. I can't wait to be there again. And last time, this Remembrance Day, my wife was there who's Canadian. And so she was thrilled that the queen at the time was there and the whole royal family. They were there and we played for them. She was very, you know, she loved the queen. She was a rhythmic gymnast. Yes, my wife, Emily Livingston, now Emily Goldblum. She took my name, Mrs. Emily Goldblum. We've been together now 14 years. Was the Pan-American champion, the best rhythmic gymnast, the ribbon and the ball.

11:01you know, that thing, in North and South America. The next year, you know, she was 16 at the time. The next year, I think 16, 17, she went to the Olympics in Sydney in 2000. That's what she does, and she's still in world-class shape, and she performs with us sometimes, besides doing many other things, during a song. We did it at the London Palladium. We did it at the Troubadour, and she's going to do it at Royal Albert Hall. During a song, she gets on stage. She starts dancing and she gets on top of the Steinway Grand Piano and she does a routine which involves hand standing of an eye-popping kind and contortion.

11:41Lennie Ware: Oh, wow. Yes, she does that. And so that's what she's going to be doing. That's what she still does. Our kids, by the way, play piano and they played at the London Palladium and the Troubadour each a song and stole the show. They must be pretty good for you to let them get on the stage. Yeah, they're pretty good.

12:01Jessie Ware: Just a take note.

12:02Lennie Ware: No, listen, my daughter plays, and she's just changed from doing classical to jazz. I saw the piano up there in the other room, and I saw a couple of jazz books. I looked into it for a second. She's, yeah, she's like, she's just, she's nine, and she's really into it. She's got it. Really? And I love hearing her play.

12:18Jessie Ware: And she plays with two hands.

12:19Lennie Ware: No, she won't, yeah, but like, no, she's just got it. To me, it's a miracle. She's got it, and I never had it with that. Like, I couldn't ever do the sight reading stuff. But you play, what do you, you play? I used to play piano, but like really badly. Really? Yeah. And obviously I don't do that. Beautiful hands. No, thanks. Yes, yes. So ours is nine and ten, and they play piano. It falls to me and Emily, and a lot to me, and a lot to Emily, to facilitate their practice every day. When I was a kid, I took lessons, but, you know, I wasn't so good in the practice, and then I finally discovered jazz and got better.

12:47But they, you know, it's good for their development, isn't it?

12:50Lennie Ware: Do they practice every day? You make them. Yeah. They do, because we kind of… Encourage them. kind of encourage it and facilitate it and watch it and help it.

12:59Jessie Ware: And it's worth it. Well, I think so, the development. And now they like it. And the older one, both of them are enjoying it. The older one kind of practices, will practice getting something out of it. And they like to play for people. If we go to a restaurant or somebody's house and they go, can I play?

13:14Lennie Ware: So what are some of the ones that they're going to like bus out if they're in a restaurant or at the London Palladium? At the London Palladium and at the Troubadour. They played a couple of different things, but Charlie did a version of Flight of the Bumblebee. Oh yeah

13:27Jessie Ware: God almighty His fingers must have been going like His fingers are good I'll show you If I had my phone Your son did that? Yep I'll show you one he sent me Is that the 10 year old

13:35Lennie Ware: Or the 9 year old? 10 year old And then the 9 year old Yeah They're good I'll show you my He just sent me a new version of it And they are good And you know Not Mozart But they're good And River Did a version of a James Bond song Oh he did the theme And now he does he likes to do the Leonard Cohen Hallelujah song. It's lovely. Does he let you sing along? I sing along. Nobody can stop me from singing. My daughter tells me to stop cramping her style. Yeah, I was there being like, and she was like, Mum, please. Well, I do think sometimes Charlie, I just be even tapping my foot, or I start to do it.

14:17It goes da-da. They call me da-da. They're kind of French oriented. Da-da. Excuse me, stop.

14:22Jessie Ware: Does your whites speak French? Because she's Canadian. Very much. Yes, she's her mom, which you remind me of a young, beautiful version of her mom also, to whom she's very close. This is a sort of a familiar scene to me. And she helps take care of the kids, and she stays with us a lot. She's just wonderful. Bernadette Carizere. She's French from Nantes. And I didn't know that French people, I think, I don't think it's atypical. they are devoted to passing on French culture as they go along but when it came to picking a school it was sort of a fait accompli it's good to lise because you can move around the world with it and it's very good and she has been speaking to them in French sort of consistently so they speak French and they, you know, in ways that I don't and they also now, because we've been in Italy speak Italian so those kids speak three languages That's amazing.

15:18Jessie Ware: That's clever. I know. Brilliant. I mean, I'm getting a big kick out of them. They're amazing. They're fantastic. Yeah, yeah, I know.

15:26Lennie Ware: Mum, whilst I just sort out the food a bit, why don't we set the scene with asking Jeff a memorable dish?

15:32Jessie Ware: Well, also, no, I want to know where you started. Where were you born? I was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Are there a lot of Jewish people there? Yes, there's an enclave there called Squirrel Hill That where we might have lived We were in West Homestead And Squirrel Hill has Taylor Alderdice in it And you know, I might have gone to school there But we didn't We went to West We were in West Homestead Did you have one brother who's Two brothers There were four of us originally There's a sister My sister Pam, two years younger than I am Is still in Los Angeles Wonderful painter, wonderful person and woman and then I had two older brothers.

16:17Two older brothers. Lee was five years older than I am and now I'm 73 and he died when he was 67. Thank you so much. He died when he was 67. My other brother who's four years older than I was was Rick. He died when he was 23. I know.

16:38Jessie Ware: I read that. He was a great hero of mine. We were close. He turned me on to music and the Beatles, in fact, about whom I was talking today. And many things. He was going to be a writer maybe. I'm 23, so young. And then he was traveling around kind of adventurously in North Africa, Agadir, Casablanca, and got a quick thing. Oh, God. I was just in New York, 17 or something. He got something. 18, 19. Yes, I was in a show and they called up. I'm so sorry. Horrible, yeah. Thank you. So was your mom a good cook? Was it chicken soup and matzo balls and roast chicken on a Friday night? Not a traditional Jewish...

17:20Well, not traditionally like that, but, you know, they made farfel. Nobody talks about farfel. Farfel. Do you know what? You seem unfamiliar. Farfel is a kind of traditional Jewish grain of sorts.

17:33Jessie Ware: Where is it from? It's kind of Ashkenazi. It's an old Ashkenazi farfel, but my mum never made it.

17:39Lennie Ware: What did you have it with, Jeff? What did I have it with? Yeah, what would your mum make it? I don't know, but I remember a day in school. I was a little bit of a fish out of water in school. There weren't others kind of like me in one way or another in school. And I remember at a show-and-tell project, I brought in a dish of farfel that I think my parents said. So it wasn't horribly received, but, you know, it was a buttery. It's a kind of a whitish grain, not like kasha.

18:06Jessie Ware: No. Not like kasha varnish, but it's a grain, and we put a lot of butter in it and mushrooms. and it was very delicious. Delicious. Delicious. So she made traditional things like that and we had brisket and things like that, but more, yeah. Was she a good cook? As I remember, because now it's a while ago, as I remember, Shirley Goldblum was... Shirley Goldblum. Shirley was a... Yes, yes, she was an okay cook. Yeah, she was an okay cook. You're not selling it to us Jeff

18:41Lennie Ware: I have to say An okay cook Would your mum have killed you to hear you call It's not as if she was a foodie She prided herself on Pretending to know about wine Sweet

18:53Jessie Ware: Did you all sit around the dinner table to eat? Yes, yes we did There were six of us And my mum was there And my dad was there I had a steady place like my kids do now At the kind of breakfast kind of table I was next to my dad here. This is kind of in the breakfast room, so-called. And, you know, the kids were, oh, Pam. Was Pam here, my younger sister, and the two boys were there? Something like that. Yeah, and we'd go around every night. Yes, and we'd have dinner. And she'd make, you know, meatloaf. I know you're going to ask about a nostalgic meal, but meatloaf I liked. Yeah. You know. What would she make her meatloaf?

19:33Jessie Ware: Did she use ground turkey or ground beef? Ground beef. Ground beef then, you know, this is not the new age. I know, the new age of Turkey. Yeah, this is the 50s, 60s. So ground beef and, you know, and I tell you about meat. It's nice that I've kind of staved off meat a little bit now because I've never been into gristle and bone and fat and really doing something, you know, like that. I always liked a meatball or a meatloaf. I liked when it was ground up. Yeah, and it didn't look like it, where it had come from. Yeah, I understand. Like, where's it come from? No, I don't like anything that kind of reminds me of the person, of the animal, of the personality of the thing.

20:16As soon as I find something, I kind of, I still, you know, I can spit out things. I don't know what you do with it. Thank you so much. What are beautiful dishes? What's your favorite?

20:26Jessie Ware: Did your mom make fish? Did she make gefilte fish, chopped and fried? She didn't make gefilte fish, but we, you know, we had gefilte fish around, you know. I think you got it in, what was it, Manischewitz? Manischewitz, yeah. You get the, in the jar. Yeah, and borscht, you know. Yeah. I remember the first time I had really home, really borscht in New York. Borscht, yeah. Because I moved to New York after Pittsburgh, you know. That's something. But we'd have it and, you know, stuff like that around. But you know what I liked on all, it's the question to what really makes me nostalgic. It's the answer to that question.

20:59It's she had spaghetti bolognese. So I like, as you can tell, bolognese, you know, meat like that, which isn't a tomato.

21:05Jessie Ware: I love sweaty bolognese. I love it. And then spaghetti, whatever that was, whatever that spaghetti was. But I remember in a particular, very particular, green, translucent kind of bowl, big bowl, and that with Kraft Parmesan cheese that you're going to put it on. I loved that. It was delicious, yeah. I thought that was great. I thought that was great. My dad was a kind of simple, simple man. And he prided himself where she was a little, the wine and showy, you know. She was kind of a little showy, but vivacious, you know, and delightful. My dad would like simple things. He was a doctor, but he was an authentic kind of simple guy.

21:44Yes, he was a doctor.

21:44Jessie Ware: What sort of doctor was he? Internist. Yeah. We were kind of a family doctor. And he'd have a bag. He had a bag back then, and he would go make house calls and, you know, stuff like that. He was a good doctor, and I think his patients loved him. But he liked, you know, a hamburger, just a plain hamburger and a tomato. That's what he liked. And sliced tomato, you know, that's what he liked. But I like everything. We'll get into food, but I like everything. Oh, I remember something she made is potato salad. She made a good potato salad. Oh, we need to know what she put in it. Well, it was probably nothing special but potatoes and which were not too al dente.

22:20I, to this day, don't like vegetables of all kind, even potatoes that are too hard. And even broccoli and carrots and Brussels sprouts. Give me something mushier. Maybe not too mushy, but mushier. And, oh, so the potatoes were, you know, on the nice tender side with mayonnaise.

22:40Jessie Ware: Did she put gherkins in or capers? Not capers. Not capers. By the way, I want to talk to you about capers and the difference between little capers and what are the big capers called?

22:49Lennie Ware: I love the big. Caper berries. Caper berries. Caper berries. Not into it. You know, I'll bite one, but not so into it. You know what I really don't like? And this is the headline is I'm easy to please. I like everything. And I'm adventurous and I've tried everything. You could have fooled me too. Yeah, me too. You know what I don't like? But I am getting kind of fussy and kind of particular. You know what I don't like so much? This may upset everybody. What? Sun-dried tomatoes. What don't I like about sun-dried tomatoes? They're very strong taste. It's a strong taste that I'm not crazy about. And that texture, I'm not crazy about.

23:25Jessie Ware: You don't like the chew? I don't like that chew. They can overpower a dish.

23:30Lennie Ware: You said the same thing the other day.

23:31Jessie Ware: The other day, I took them out. Yeah, and I took them out. I'm not crazy. But you know what else I have a very strong opinion about? I like anchovies. Me too. But there are two different kinds of anchovies. There's the white and the brown. I love the brown. I discovered it in Pittsburgh when I was young. Ooh, salty. I ate a whole tin of it. The white are kind of fishy. The fattier ones. Huh? The fattier ones you don't like. They pickle them more than oil. I like pickled things, but I don't like those white anchovies.

23:58Lennie Ware: I'm now feeling quite anxious I'm giving you fish. I love fish. I'm a fish. You're a pescatarian, aren't you? Dairy-free pescatarian. One might say, I've sort of advertised it since, like I've already said, personality in the food turns me off. I don't want bones in the fish. Sorry if I'm asking for being too demanding. loin of cod I don't want to see the head on the fish and meat I really don't want bones chicken, poultry, I don't want bones but my kids are not the same my kids are like maybe all kids are, maybe they'll grow out of it but I don't remember ever being like that they will take a bone and leave it clean and they'll take they like a lobster when we're able to have a lobster and they like to they pride themselves on yes I don't want to do anything with it I don't want to have any task, and I don't want any detritus.

24:52I don't want any shell, et cetera, et cetera.

24:55Lennie Ware: But the thing of being a pescatarian came from Wicked, right? That's what I was going to say. Oh, so besides being kind of fussy about my eating animals, yes, the idea of being nice to creatures is kind of appealing to me. And since I played this sort of not-so-nice character, the wizard, in this Wicked who facilitates animal cruelty in a bad way and Seth's Elphaba, Cynthia Erivo, against me. You know, I turned over a leaf, and I think they're both vegetarian, and besides my doctor said, I think it's better if you stay off the red meat and this and that for one reason or another. So I've been pescatarian and off the dairy and off a couple other things, although to tell the truth these days, if I have a hankering for something, I'll allow myself to get a little protein of one kind or another.

25:46Lennie Ware: Can I feed you this, please? You know, yes, please. That's the loveliest offer, and I knew I was in for this, and I'm so excited and grateful and appreciative already. Wait a minute. I don't even know what this is. I smelt this. As soon as I came in the door, I smelt something delicious. So this is from my friend Georgina Hayden's cookbook, Medesk, and it is cod baked with fennel and olives and what else is in there? Yes, so great. Great, great, perfect. You're all right, yeah. Because it's nearly as big as the caper berry. And then we're doing it with couscous, with a bit of pistachio and coriander, and then a very nice green salad with a shallot vinaigrette.

26:28That's fantastic.

26:29Lennie Ware: Great, okay good. I'm very excited. I just hope the cod is cooked, this is my fear, but I think it's cooked. And if it's not, I'll put it back in. Ever, you're like, ooh, there it is. There it is. There it is in that skillet, in that iron. What do you call that, an iron? A little le crusoe, isn't it? Like, what is it? You're so, look, my mouth is doing something funny already. It looks fantastic. Pleasing to the eye as well as to the palate. Do you want some salad? I love salad. Do you like the French that have it after the meal? No. You like it with? I do. Help yourself to some salad. Oh, my God.

27:02And can I have salad on a separate plate?

27:04Lennie Ware: Yeah. Because I'd put it in here, but if I had my druthers, if I'm really asking, you don't have to comply. No, I think you're right. But I do like salad. Yes, I like everything together. As a matter of fact, they don't like us in, well, they do, but in Italy, when I say, oh, bring it all together. You know, they say first course, second course. No, no, no. Give it all. Oh, thank you so much. Give it to me all together. I'll have the fish and the pasta together. And as a matter of fact, listen to this heretical, is that the right word, idea. I like to have dessert at the same time. Oh. Sometime.

27:36I don't have to do it today. I'm not doing that. But I go, that's why I like room service. I say, no, no, don't save the ice. Don't save the sorbet until later. Bring it up now because I will go savory, savory, sweet. Back to savory. Then I'll have a little dessert. Isn't that crazy? But it becomes even more radical because at home sometimes I go into the refrigerator when I'm not trying to be more human, like a human being, like I'm being trained to be now. I take everything out of the refrigerator at the same time. I just take it all out. And sometimes my wife says, don't you want to heat it up?

28:09I say, no, no, that's okay. No, it's fine. And so I take it all out of me. Although I'm getting fussy about leftovers. Is she a good cook? Oh, are you?

28:14Jessie Ware: I wanted to answer that. Yeah, a little bit. She is a good cook, and she goes on Instagram and posts herself making things and inventing things and following cookbooks and sharing recipes. She's very health conscious and oriented, and she wants our kids to be healthy. So, yes, and she's very good. But she makes pancakes in the morning. Does she? And waffles. And yes, you know what my son makes for me? He's very helpful. And they like to give gifts. They're very generous. My son, Charlie, is very helpful and capable in many ways. Makes these days, as of a couple of months ago, matcha tea. Matcha tea.

28:59Yep. Why? With oat milk. Don't eat that yet.

29:02Lennie Ware: I forgot to put an ingredient in. Oh, that's good. Oh, you took a plate too. with a little oat milk, which I kind of like now foamy. I'm crazy about it. I'm staying off the caffeine. What is this? I'm very excited about seeing you. Excuse me if I'm too chatty. No, I love it. This was supposed to be cooked with it, but you're just going to have to have a bit of vinegar now. Fuck. That's so annoying that I forgot to do that. I want the less than that you've put on. I have a very sensitive sniffer. All this is already doing something to me. Okay, fine. Sometimes if I'm not allowed to eat something, you know what suffices?

29:35What? Smelling it.

29:37Lennie Ware: I may have just put too much vinegar in your thing now. I love it. Oh, that looks great. Okay, I'm tasting this salad. Okay. Mmm.

29:45Jessie Ware: Delicious, Jess. I appreciate a good salad. That's simple. It's fantastic. The dressing. I know. What do you call it? Shallots?

29:52Lennie Ware: Shallots. Yeah, shallots. Yeah, shallots. You call it shallots. We say shallots. Do you need salt? There is salt and there's pepper. It's fantastic. Good. It's got protein and carbs. I always look for a kind of a... If I have just fish... Yeah, I look for about, and this couscous is fantastic. Great. Let me, wait a minute. Do you want your salad, Jesse? Is that garlic? I don't know. Is it? No. Let me see. Is it fennel? I think it's garlic. Oh, it's garlic. And I love garlic. I like raw garlic, but I like a cooked garlic. That's fantastic. Can I ask you where you met your wife?

30:28Jessie Ware: How does an actor meet a contortionist? Here's what happened. I was working out, as I still do on a daily basis, if I can. And I went to the gym that day, 14 years ago, on Sunset Boulevard, you know, the equinox there. And I saw her there. She happened to be there in the sliding doorsway, you know, like what if this hadn't happened? Her sister had just had a baby. So the day we met, her sister had her first baby, who's now 14 years old. And she otherwise would have been working out in the afternoon, but she was for some reason there in the morning when I showed up. It was kismet was a shirt and then we um do you speak yiddish yeah of course and then um and then i went over to her and said what are you doing because she was was she doing a few contortions i bet she was really impressive she was not showing off she was there to kind of do her stuff and did she do a few contortions and you thought wow she was doing something called for you know skin the cats and meat hooks oh yeah which is which she's hanging and she does pull-ups and she was hanging in the That is really hard.

31:34Lennie Ware: It's like calisthenic stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so her legs are going nearby her face and over there very slowly. And then they're going here. And she's hanging by the neck. And then she's doing something, you know. And what were you doing? Watching. Which apparatus were you on? Doing nothing, darling.

31:52Jessie Ware: You were enchanted. I was trying to do that. I do a little cardio and a little standard weightlifting. And then I saw her do this. So you went over? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. So what was the opening line, Jeff? I think I said something like, you know, I have no formulaic. I'm not trying to pick anybody up. But I said, you know, geez, this is so interesting. What are you doing? You must be a... I couldn't talk to him. I couldn't talk to him. I couldn't talk to him. I couldn't talk to him or something. And, you know, she struck up a conversation.

32:26Lennie Ware: So, no, back to... She didn't know who I was, by the way. She said, I said, my name. She'd never seen Jurassic Park? No, no, no, she'd never seen anything. Never seen The Fly? No, she was very... Did she know who you were? No, she did not. No, and I said my whole name, not in a way that I thought was... But I said, you know, hi, Jeff Goldblum. Well, you know, I wasn't trying to go on. No. Jeff Goldblum. I went Jeff Goldblum, and she went hello, but, you know, we kind of hit it off outside of that, even though she didn't know, and then, yeah, that was it.

32:54Jessie Ware: Well, you've got to use what you've got. Jeff Goldblum's a pretty impressive introduction. I don't know about that. But yeah, that was it. Oh, and then what did I say? Oh, yeah, no. Yeah, I said, what are you doing? Yeah, that's it. The first date really was when we talked, I said, give me your number, let's be in touch. And I said, you know, did I say then? I might have said, you know, I've been teaching acting. She said, well, I'm taking acting lessons. And I said, you know, I'd love to teach you. I think I did. That's probably, yeah, not attractive sounding. But I did. I think I did say at some point, you know, She said, yeah, I'm working on things in class.

33:29I said, if you need, you know, things that might be enjoyable, maybe we could do that. But before she came over to my house in a few days to work on that, ostensibly, she said, this very night, I'm dancing and I'm performing. I said, may I come to see you? Yes, so that night, uncharacteristically, I'm usually in bed early, she was starting kind of late and I kind of found myself driving.

33:54Lennie Ware: Did you go on your own? huh yeah yeah yeah just that's really brave yeah and you know I said wow oh yeah I was well she you know love makes you brave yeah I guess and um and then I said well I'm performing in a couple of days from now at this gig and she said let me come see you and she did a couple of days later that was the next thing that happened and our band was playing and she was there and then I dared her to get up and do a routine on top of the piano which she does now but she did it at that point. And she said, yeah, I'll do it. And I cleared off the things on the piano and she did this amazing thing.

34:30That was that date. And then a couple of days after that, she came over to maybe work on her monologue or something. But one thing led to another quickly. I gave her a tour of the house, actually. And I said, look, you can see, let's go up in the hill. I'll show you this bench up there. Let's sit on the bench. And look, you can see from here the Capitol Records building. That's, you know. Oh, I love that building.

34:53Jessie Ware: Isn't that a great building? That's where we did our first record. But at that point, we hadn't even done it. I said, look, isn't that a great looking building? And as she said, and I remember it, she said, I said, look over there. And she went, it wasn't a trick, but she went, and I saw the corner of her mouth right here, but still, I find irresistible. And when she turned back around, I... You moved in. I moved in. Well done. That was the, and I'll stop right there with the details. Okay, okay. But that's what happened. Now, my current favorite joke, which I never get tired, and the family doesn't, is that I switch the whole story around.

35:33And for the kids' benefit, I said, whenever anybody makes a, this is going to sound awful, some kind of thing that could be turned into a double entendre, I say, well, that's what you said when you first came over to the house. I went, what does that mean? She said, I'll show you. I do some version of the story where she's very aggressive, and I'm the innocent. You'll be innocent. Yes, and I'm being set upon. And then we say, what are you kids, who do you believe? And she goes, that's not true. I never did that, et cetera, et cetera. That's our favorite joke.

36:11Jessie Ware: What would be your last supper, your starter main dessert drink of choice? I know. I'm going to tell you. Well, it's not, I've heard you say it's not, don't worry, it's not, you're not being executed. Yeah, you're not. It's not because you're on death row. But I like that movie. Do you know Monsieur Verdoux, the Charlie Chaplin movie where he speaks? It's in black and white. Martha Ray's in it. I like it a lot.

36:31Lennie Ware: Is that like the only movie that Charlie Chaplin speaks in? He speaks in a couple. He's a great dictator he speaks in. He speaks in a few of them. But I like that movie. And he's murdered some of his wives or something like that. And he's going to be executed. And just before he does, they go, would you like a – they're leading him to the –

36:52Jessie Ware: Gallows. Yes, Chamer of the Gallows. And they, would you like to have a drink of something? I forget what it is. And he goes, he's already, you know, lost in deep thought of some kind about this moment. And he goes, no, no. He goes, wait a minute. I've never tasted that. Let me taste it. He goes, hmm. He just wants to taste something that he's never tasted before, just before he goes. So in a way, I kind of like that moment, that movie. In a way, my personality is such that I like to be surprised. If I, even a piece of music or a book, if I could read, I go, and when I go to restaurants, I kind of go, you recommend it, surprise me, you choose.

37:37Lennie Ware: But sometimes that doesn't work out well. Yeah, I know. I do this too. But I kind of like that. So I wouldn't mind being surprised. That's one answer. The other answer is, you know, if there is love cooked into food, if who cooks it and how it's cooked has something to do with it, which I think it does, I wouldn't mind if it was going to be the last. If I wasn't going to see them or her again, I'd have my wife's pancakes or waffles. That's another answer. If you want the usual interpretation of this answer, what's my favorite food?

38:09Jessie Ware: Yeah. Stolzner. Which is also difficult because I love pasta. I love pizza. I love sandwiches. Oh, I love sandwiches. Oh, my God. Yeah. Many, many different kinds of sandwiches. And ones that I've never had. I like to try new. But if I had to pick, recently I had a meal that I thought was pretty fantastic. And that's that there was a sushi place in L.A. It's called Sushi Park. I've been there. It's so good. It's a little bit, it's expensive.

38:42Lennie Ware: Is that where you take the mortgage out before you go in? Yeah, yeah, it's expensive. No, Benny found a more expensive one than that. Which is that? Yeah. It's modest looking. It's a little, it's at a mini mall, it's upstairs. But what they do is special and I believe, you know, commensurate with what they're charging you. And what it is, is they're very sophisticated and they've chosen this fish or however they do it. And each morsel is not only beautiful, but they go here, this soy sauce on this. and no soy sauce on that. And each one you go... Oh, I know. Umami. Oh, my God. No, it's not just umami.

39:18There's like tang on it.

39:20Lennie Ware: It's beautiful. Yes, they put different things on it and it's the different fish. Do you like sushi generally? Yeah, well, early on, I discovered it when it was kind of making its debut. Back, I was doing a Broadway show and the first one I ever did in New York in the early 70s. And the chorus, I was in the chorus and the dancers said, hey, let's go. There's a new Japanese red sushi. What's that? I don't know, but it's in Times Square here. And we went and I was like, this is great. I loved it. You know, some kind of bowl of rice and fish. I thought that was great. And so often for the next decades, I would go have sushi.

39:56These days, because it can get a little, because I now know what really good sushi is, and it can get a little regular and standard and a little untrustworthy, which I'm nervous about. it's okay but I wouldn't choose it right away. I don't have to have it.

40:12Jessie Ware: Do your kids like it? Yeah, they do. All children like sushi. I took Charlie just the two of us on a little field trip. The two of us were together and I say you should sometimes divvy it up and have a one-on-one thing. We went to, what's it called? Clap here in London? Clap. Is it called Clap? It's a sushi, kind of high-end sushi and he loved that. We had a great time there. And then we take them to places there that they love. Yeah, they like it. They like it a lot.

40:40Lennie Ware: I was listening to your off-menu. We love those boys. Those guys are fun, aren't they? They're great. Well, you know how I like to talk about food. Yeah. But at that stage, I don't think you'd shown your boys Jurassic Park. Yeah. Now, we're recording this on a Friday, and we try and do a movie night with our kids. I've got three. I want to talk all about that because I love to show the movies. And it's always that thing where I want them to see some old films. I mean, they don't feel old to me, but, you know, so whether it's an E.T. or, you know, like nostalgic films. Have they seen E.T.? Yeah, they loved it.

41:14Which, which? E.T. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I showed ours E.T. And Closing Carbages.

41:18Lennie Ware: But Jurassic Park is something that I feel you've got to get it right when you show it to them because I've got a four-year-old who thinks he's a big shot, but I've also got it's too early for him. Yep, I know. When we first did that movie and we went on the publicity tour and nobody had seen any of those movies yet, they said, you know, this may be too tough for kids and we should be vocal about and conspicuous, lay our cards on the table and say, parents, you should screen it first and case-by-case basis assess your kids' ability to take this. In all the years, young kids come up to me and I've never seen one go, it was too frightening.

41:54They love it. I go to the parents still, did you get scared? No, no, no, no, no.

41:58Lennie Ware: So have you shown your boys yet? Yes. I showed my boys. They weren't scared at that so much. I've showed them some other things, or they've happened their way in. They've snuck their way into a couple of things that are pretty radical and probably too advanced for them. And when it gets scary, we showed them, in fact, Hitchcock's The Birds. Oh, my God. Because I like The Birds, and I wanted to. They said, yeah, we can take anything. We're big shots, and we like scary. What's the scariest movie I've ever seen? So I thought, it's kind of vintage. It's not so. And they were into it. but then there's a scene where the guy's eyes are pecked out and they were like, turn it off, turn it off.

42:34So they're not afraid to say, turn it off. So that's okay. I showed them the Elephant Man.

42:39Jessie Ware: Yeah. Oh, yes. Which is heavy stuff, but I think the theme is kind of wholesome. But at some point they had to back away from it.

42:49Lennie Ware: Have they seen your Marvel films? Yes, you know, they like Thor Ragnarok. They think I'm funny in that. Yeah, they like that. But they must have loved Wicked. And they liked Wicked. I took them to the stage show. I was crying again like a baby. And then they were on the set and met the ladies who were very nice to them. And then they saw it. Yeah, yeah. I loved Wicked. You do? We all loved it. I loved it. And I wasn't a person that grew up on Wicked. Really? So I went to go and see it in the play before I saw the film. Because I was so excited about the casting of the movie. It was so exciting.

43:21Lennie Ware: And to be able to hear Cynthia, I mean, Anna, Ariana, like sing those songs. and my kids we were all trying to do like the war cry yeah and like we'd all have a go on those stairs and like it was it made my kids really feel something so they're going to be so excited that they've had Oz the wizard here they were probably my youngest was three he said wake me up when the monkeys have gone I said fine so we got rid of the monkeys bit and then it was fine yeah probably about eight and six yeah because you like eating dessert with your mains i'm gonna have to get it out because you've got to go let's go i mean and and it needs to go in a bowl sweetheart you don't have to wait till i'm finished and i should just stop because i would keep i would keep eating because i saved my appetite although i had a nice breakfast what did you have i like his breakfast at the hotel i'm at i won't mention the name but it's a very nice hotel and i and they do i'm a connoisseur of breakfasts and hotel breakfasts.

44:23Oh, they did. I had an egg white omelet with spinach and mozzarella cheese. I've been trying to stay away from cheese, but I had mozzarella cheese. I said, give me a cheese that can really melt and be part of the omelet. I don't like those omelets that open up and it's like a book, and you see some ingredients there, you know, just sitting there, separate from the thing. I like the cheese. So I had that with some Tabasco sauce and some sourdough bread with some salt and butter, and then I had a Virgin Mary that I traded off with a fresh-squeezed orange juice. And then I had some porridge made with oat milk with some seeds and some berries on it, some honey, and a decaf cappuccino.

44:58Lennie Ware: Do you actually like the egg white omelette, or is it for health? Well, they say I should be doing it for health these days. But wise minds disagree. Every year or every week, yeah, you should eat the yolk. No, you shouldn't eat the yolk. I know, it's so annoying. You know, milk is good. No, milk is not good. You know, everything is always changing.

45:19Jessie Ware: Darling, we need spoons as well. I don't, I mean, oh, that looks great. I hope so. I see some lychee nuts in there that I heard Bill Nye talking about look like eyeballs. Some people like lychee, some don't. I love them. So this is a tropical fruit salad that my beloved cousin used to make with stem ginger and lychee in it. With stem ginger? Yeah, do you know what stem ginger is? Stem ginger. It's kind of candied ginger. It's ginger that. Candied, I love anything. I love food poetry I love it you know candied anything sounds good to me well it's done it's just all different tropical foods and it's got lychees and it's got stem ginger in which is it comes in a little syrup in little balls and then I chop

46:01Lennie Ware: them up but Jeff I do feel like if I gave you a piece of sliced white bread you would make like it would be poetic yeah you would make it poetic I'm passionate about food and I'm grateful for any of your food stuffs I get and I'm easy to please and I'm very enthusiastic. My wife always says, hey, I'm glad I can cook and is it okay? Okay, I say it's and I'm not kidding. I'm very appreciative. May I serve you first?

46:25Jessie Ware: No, you serve yourself. I couldn't. Isn't that unchivalrous? Because I think you need a start on us to I start, yeah. I'm a lingerer, so here. I'm a malingerer.

46:38Lennie Ware: Did we ever get the last supper? Did we even get one dish? We've got sushi part. Well, here, first of all, a starter, if you're by your formula, the starter, I would say, do you know, when I first eat, if my appetite is up, do you know that first bite you take of anything is always like the best thing? The starter is like, oh, what did you like the best about the meal? It was the starter because I was ready for it. And your mouth does something differently if it's that first bite. So I wouldn't want to waste the whole meal and ruin the others on eating too much. So it would be something small.

47:09And I like a surprise. Like I say, you know, hey, this is on the house. This is to start a little, what is it? Oh, it's a little, you know, whatever that is. I mean, if I'm having sushi later, I wouldn't want it to be fish. I love all soups. I could love a small bowl of soup. Any kind of soup. I love all soups. Many, many kinds of soups. But, hey, I'm going to tell you something.

47:37Lennie Ware: Oh, yeah. I like hot things that are hot. I mean, temperature-wise. I like food these days to be hot and even if I have a plate of pasta the first few bites if they're hot are good and then I don't stop because it's probably still delicious but I really want to stop after it loses its heat it was lovely it was absolutely lovely and like I say I can take things out of the refrigerator and not heat them up but really I like hot food so soup If I see, I've had a miso soup to go. This is what I don't know. A miso soup, and it's kind of tepid, and I'm like, this is like dishwater. Why am I? You want to burn the roof of your mouth.

48:23Lennie Ware: Just short of that. Just short of that. I've been burned. I don't like to be burned. Or I don't like to bite my lip or tongue. Never do that. No. It's horrible. I don't like that. And it really just sneaks up on you. Yep. You never know when it's going to happen. Like Jaws. It's not your technique. It's not something that's sticking out. No, sometimes... I know. Ow. I know. Yeah. Terrible, terrible. But I've never luckily broken a tooth on an unpopped piece of corn. Oh, don't talk to mom about teeth. Veneers. Hers come out. I have a couple of veneers. Oh, really? Something. They pop off, yeah.

48:57Oh, I know what you mean. I never had a cavity or filling.

49:02Lennie Ware: All right, show off. Yeah, yeah, I know. So basically, Jeff. Yes, ma 'am. And this is delicious, by the way. So your cousin... It's tasty, isn't it? Oh, it's delicious. Can you taste the ginger? Just a little. I love ginger, by the way. That's what I love about Japanese bread. I love that ginger, whatever that is.

49:16Jessie Ware: It's great. It's the best food salad, I know.

49:19Lennie Ware: From what I'm gathering, for the last supper, you'd have a little bit of this. You'd have a surprise. You'd have a soup. You'd have a hot soup. You would have a few bites of the hot pasta. Yes. Yes. Good idea. Okay. And where are we going for the pud? For the what? The pud. Oh, dessert. You called it pud? The pud. Puds. The pudding. Well, we can talk. I like language, you know. Pudding. So what do you call pudding? I heard you're talking about pudding, which we have, which is pudding. Yeah, I know. So that's a pudding. You call everything sweet as a pudding. Do you want a little pud? Yeah. And this you call custard.

49:53Lennie Ware: Yes. I love it. What do you call it? I put that on anything. Vanilla sauce or something. Custard we call. It's custard. Coconut custard pies to have all the time. I could go for a piece of that. So, yes, I like sweet things. and for dessert, you know, I mean, these days, I mean, I'd take a bite. I like when they bring over the whole tray.

50:13Jessie Ware: Oh, that's right. And they say, here, this is all in the house. Take every dessert in the house. And I go, I try to take one bite of everything because I have to, I do like to taste things. Me too. If my wife has something that only she's ordered, I go, can I taste that? Well, of course. Sometimes she says, I'll get you one. She really does. She doesn't like to show that. She's very generous. Yeah. But sometimes I go, I really only want to, I just want to see what it is. Yeah. I just want to taste it.

50:35Lennie Ware: That's why I like going for a curry. Indian food. I love Indian food. Oh, yes, I like to pick. Well, I like a buffet. I like a buffet where I go, I'll pick how much and what it is.

50:47Jessie Ware: The best one is in Las Vegas, the Wynn. Really? Buffet, yeah. What, like a breakfast buffet or everything? No, it's an evening one and everyone queues because they have snow crab, which is supposed to be fabulous, and everyone queues for it.

51:00Lennie Ware: What would be your drink of choice? Drink. You're not a big drinker, are you? I'm not a boozer, you know. No, as a matter of fact, I'm like a kid. If it's like alcohol, I'm like, oh, how can you like that? You don't like alcohol at all. No, it tastes like sticks and it's Bernie. I don't like it. You know, I kind of get it. Whiskey? Why would you want to drink whiskey? Oh, it's like medicine or something. And likewise, I had a beer. I've never drunk beer, but I was in Dublin the other day where our band was playing. And I said, bring it to me on stage. They'll witness me having my first Guinness.

51:32Jessie Ware: Oh, God. And they brought it to me. It was delicious. I get it. I like the idea of a cold beer. Sounds good. And foam is always nice. That was kind of great. Did you enjoy it? But I didn't want to have the whole thing. And I'm very sensitive. So if I have something, I start to feel funny right away. Oh, my God. You're really lightweight. And then white. Yeah, I'm very lightweight. And wine I know nothing about. But, you know, if somebody says, hey, this is a very special red wine, I go, okay, with the meal. I'm not going to just drink it, but with this meal, very delicious food. Let me have the drink.

52:06Yes. Oh, I get it. And you're done. Nice. And then I'm done.

52:09Jessie Ware: How does your French mother-in-law cope with this? Well, you know, I don't know. She's very generous. She seems to be cordial and open-armed about me, and I certainly give her much reason to be.

52:21Lennie Ware: Your wonderful management are telling us that you've got to go. This was like one of those rides that you go and you just, I want to go again. It's too short. Please just come again. Yeah. You are welcome to part two. I really love you two. Oh, God. And we love you. I kind of really do. Stop. I'm a little bit choked up and romantic. I really, really love you. And I love this house. And being invited here is very special. Thank you very much. You make everyone feel very special. So thank you. He's got that. You've got that.

52:52Jessie Ware: That gift of making. Je ne sais quoi. It's just that making you feel that you are the most important person in the room. So thank you. It's a very good quality.

53:00Lennie Ware: And congratulations. It's a big day for you. My Blooms is out today. That's all tough. It is out today. We're trying. That's why I'm ostensibly here to bang the drum and to get the word out, which I'm proud to do. Go on, hold it. Because it's a yes. I'd be proud to be pictured with a thing like this because my friend did that. It's so lovely. You know, and these people. It's good music. It's our best album. I love doing it. We're going to record some more. I love doing it live. So it's just fun for me. So it gets 10 Goldblooms out of a possible 10 Goldblooms.

53:32Jessie Ware: Of course, I've just realized it's a plain word. Jeff Goldbloom. Goldblooms, yes, Nightblooms. Yeah, you get it. I've fallen in. I'm an idiot. I did Isle of Dogs, and it wasn't until I did the movie, and then it was a year later, we were doing the publicity, and I went, yes, Isle of Dogs. I love dogs. Isle of Dogs. Is that what you meant? He said, yes, of course. Oh, I didn't get it.

53:57Lennie Ware: Yeah, I only just got it when you spelt it out. So, well done. I'm very slow. I'm very slow in many ways. Before we let you go, and you may have already answered this, but a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere. Happy or sad. Well, you know, many things bring me back in my childhood. And I like that movie Trip to Bountiful or that play. You ever see that? Geraldine Page wants to just go back before she dies to her home just to see where she grew up again. I know that feeling. And I dream about the house in Pittsburgh. Oh, that food. And, you know, we went out to certain restaurants that we went to.

54:29My brothers and I got pizza from the Junction Pizza, DeSalle's Pizza, the square pizza. That was awful good. That'll bring me back if I went there. And at home, that glass bowl, that green glass bowl of spaghetti bolognese or the potato salad would do it. And then we went into a phase where we got a grill in the backyard and they would put on steaks on the grill. They liked that. And, you know, that was something. You know, but I like cold cereal and going back and having my cereal that I had then, life cereal, some oat checks or something. Oat checks. Would do something for me. The little shreddies.

55:07Life cereal.

55:07Lennie Ware: It's like when it sweetens the milk and then it's just like, that's the great. And it's malty. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I like when it's a little bit, not too crunchy. It gets a little bit soggy. Not too soggy, but you know. Although I like overnight oats where you just soggy up the oats. Thank you for being on. congratulations on Night Blooms and everyone can come see you in the UK and the Royal Albert Hall will be the London date if you want you'll be the guests of honour June 30th thank you congratulations to you on every little thing you're so sweet well thank you for being such a fantastic guest and there is always room for part two so say the word Jeff and you can come You know, part two, I'm counting on Fast and Furious.

55:56Don't you think I do seven or eight?

55:57Lennie Ware: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do Fast and Furious.

56:14Lennie Ware: Jeff Goldblum. What a guy. He was just like a bundle of love. I mean, warm, kind, knowledgeable. I think that was the most off-piece Last Supper. Yeah. I don't know if we really got a Last Supper.

56:29Jessie Ware: Yeah.

56:30Lennie Ware: But it's a little bit of this.

56:31Jessie Ware: But we did have his last films.

56:33Lennie Ware: Yes. I mean, he's amazing.

56:36Jessie Ware: Monsieur, what was it, Vilno?

56:38Lennie Ware: I don't know.

56:39Jessie Ware: Charlie Chaplin.

56:40Lennie Ware: I was too busy being kind of dazzled by... Yeah, he was dazzling. For somebody that doesn't drink whiskey, he is like a fine glass of whiskey, kind of rich and fruity.

56:51Jessie Ware: His warmth is wonderful.

56:52Lennie Ware: And he was so lovely. And like, you know, my husband rocks up. I don't know why he had my son's guitar on the back. It looked like he was a kind of travelling, wandering musician.

57:02Jessie Ware: He had a pair of small shoes.

57:04Lennie Ware: Anyway. So mad.

57:05Jessie Ware: And he's like, Sam Burrows.

57:07Lennie Ware: And he knew everything. Everything. Knew my middle name. Yeah. What a gent. Lovely. Jeff Goldblum. Blooming wonderful. Blooming fabulous. And his album Night Blooms is out this week. Go and get it. It's really gorgeous.

57:22Jessie Ware: And we're into albums with blooms in the title.

57:25Lennie Ware: We are into albums with blooms. And maybe I'll show my kids Jurassic Park tonight.

57:30Jessie Ware: Maybe. It's just the bit when the bloody thing goes. Yeah, the big boy toddler will be under the table. Yeah, maybe we just say avert your eyes on that bit.

57:41Lennie Ware: Anyway, we'll see. I thought the food was nice. I'm so annoyed that I forgot the vinegar. It was fine. But it kind of was fine having it. It was delicious. It was very nice. Absolutely delicious. Georgie, I love you. You're a fantastic chef and always your cookbooks are wonderful. So that's from Medesk, which is out now. And I love that. Fruit salad. For the team here, did anyone try the fruit salad? They all did. Isn't it lovely? So good. And very simple. Add a little bit of stem ginger in there, a tin of light cheese and some tropical fruit and jobs are good. We'll see you next week for more Table Mamas.