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Hosts: Jessie Ware and her mother, Lennie Ware

Guests

Joel and Hannah Cooper Dommett

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Food, marriage, and personal anecdotes

Cooking Highlights

Chicken with miso, lime, ginger, and chili; Coffee and chocolate Eton mess (inspired by Cote Brasserie)

  • Jessie and Lennie discuss their personal experiences and recent activities, including:
  • Lennie's attendance at a book launch for "Mother Country" by Monique Charlesworth.
  • Details about a nice dinner at Fishers, including dessert choices.

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0:03Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Mum. How are you Mum? I'm okay. What have you been up to? Well, I went to a great book launch last night. Oh, yeah? And my friend Monique Charlesworth wrote a book called Mother Country. Oh. And it was in my best bookshop, Dawn Books. And did you go for any nice food after? I did. I went out with my godson, who treated me to a nice... Oh, sweet. Sweet, delicious meal at Fishers. Oh, nice. What did you order? Well, he had Dover sole and I had halibut. So we averted the schnitzel. I love Fishers. Yeah, I love it. I love the atmosphere.

0:39You feel like you're abroad. And then we shared a dessert. What did you share? We shared an apple strudel that was so delicious that I think I'm going to have a go at making one with ice cream. I had a life-changing cruffin. Half muffin and half crumpling? Yeah, it was a blood orange cruffin. And it was from this newt hamper, which was very nice. But I haven't stopped thinking about these blood orange cruffins. And I guess blood oranges, how long are they in season for? They're in season right now. Yeah. It was outstanding. I ate too. Of course you did. No regrets. No regrets. What are you cooking tonight?

1:18I've done, actually, our Alice. Yeah. Do something easy. Our producer Alice, who we love. I forgot how not easy this was, but... Never mind. I've done it before. I'm doing chicken with miso, lime, ginger and chilli. Yeah. And then what is the pud? Oh, the pud. The pud you've been excited about doing. Yeah. So I tasted something and I think I've followed it from the ingredients. Well, I've made it up. Where did you taste it? Coat Brasserie. Coat Brasserie. You are the... Yeah. You're keeping it going. So it's creme fraiche and some cream whipped up. As if you're going to make an eaten mess. Flavoured with coffee essence.

1:59The old-fashioned camp coffee essence. then it's got broken meringue in candid hazelnuts and a chocolate sauce on top so it's kind of like a different version of an eat a mess but like nutty chocolatey version yeah nutty chocolatey coffee version creme fraiche with the cream that's a nice kind of gives it a bit more tartness yeah yeah sweetness and the coffee it's just gorgeous i think i'm very excited about this i am too seems like one that people could do at home i think it's so easy i am very excited about this i'm gonna have a glass of wine in a minute it's a friday yeah friday friday night we should introduce the guests we have a couple we haven't had a couple for a while i don't think we did greg james that was in like series two and bella mucky yeah we have joel domit and hannah cooper domit coming up he has probably one of the funnest jobs on telly hosting the masked singer they also have this podcast called never have i ever where they take on a new challenge each week so one week they will go and go plane spotting the next week they'll go and see magic mic the next week they will go to the airport without anything booked and go on a holiday so basically they are doing quite a lot of fun things it's quite exciting joel actually has got a stand-up show straight after this so we're like feeding him before he goes and does stand-up um and uh very sweet of them to pop in before he goes and does that so we're really excited it's uh hannah and joel coming up on welcome to hannah cooper domit and joel domit thank you thank you for joining us i've seen you on the radio this morning and you've got a gig later you are very busy i'm very busy boy and but it is my pleasure to be here and uh to eat with you i'm really excited but you've also um you've also recorded a podcast today as well yeah we've done a lot of talking today yeah what was the activity today today we decided that we are going to comic-con tomorrow and we discussed cat cafe we did cat cafe last week we went to a cat cafe who's okay who has the ideas for the like do you both take in turns right a bit of both who had the idea for comic-con comic-con was uh was a listener suggestion this week so that sort of saves us when we can't think of anything yeah it's the end of the week and we're like we've done everything on this planet yeah and then we're like comic-con cool it's actually all right it's a you look that's gonna be quite good It could be terrible, but that's what's fun about it.

4:43Do you factor in where you're going to eat and is that very important within your excursions? Everything I do, I'm like, is there snacks? Is there food involved? That sort of is the only reason I do this. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what sort of food are we talking about? Can I take food in with me if I'm bored? Is that a solution? What has been the worst idea? what has been the worst the worst what weirdly the ones that you think are gonna be bad end up almost always being good and the ones that you think are going to be brilliant end up being bad the genuinely one of the best things we've done on the podcast was plane spotting oh yeah it was a balmy day though wasn't it it's a balmy day and a great picnic there we go there we go yeah you You probably look at that, what's that thing on YouTube?

5:39Do you remember when the planes couldn't land because it was so blowing? And the man was filming them, and everyone just sat the whole den, planes were bouncing backwards and forwards. It felt like plane bingo, and if you had one, we had one that didn't land and took back off again. And took back off, and we were so excited. And we were like, oh! And was there a whole community of... Yeah, there was loads of people out there, and they're all there, just kind of, with their suitcases, weirdly. I don't know whether they're coming straight from a flight. I don't know, but they have, they have like, no, everyone's very separate.

6:14Everyone has their own part of the field. It's very strange. These are the planes. Would you go back? Oh yeah. Next summer, you've got to pick the right weather. I had my little tartan blanket. I was like, hello, little sausage rolls. Maybe you could do that anywhere. True. Without the planes. That is true. I could do that in our garden. That is a good point actually. You could just go to house for tea You're happy to take you to Biggin Hill Yeah and where is he now There we go So you've been on the radio this morning Yes You were really Really loving Tom Brennan I was too much of that And Radio 2 are really like Going for this bromance thing And they've really like Leaned into it haven't they It wasn't just you You and Spence Matthews Were both vying for his love This is so bad I do like Tom He's such a nice man You really love the new single I really love the new single I really do love I always do I have a habit of doing this whenever I'm on a show I end up promoting the other people's stuff more than my own because I like find it really fun I like to be like your snoozing was so great and stuff and then I leave and I'm like oh yeah I forgot to say anything about the thing that I'm not talking about I actually don't know why you were on apart from being like you're actually a leader for Tom I'm just this little sidekick I heard about Spencer's documentary and Tom's but I actually missed what you were on for I was on to talk about Survivor I'm the new host of Survivor which is quite exciting but um it's basically it's like it's it's the number one in america in america it's the biggest reality show in america and it's now the number one reality show in australia as well and no pressure no pressure but if it doesn't go well it's my fault um and it's really simple it's just they're on a really remote tropical location they have two tribes who compete against each other for like immunity and rewards and they have nothing so they they literally have not they have to sleep on the floor make their own shelter out of the trees that are there and i think it's a bit lord of the flies and i'm a celebrity and like and traitors yeah yeah maybe very similar but it's very similar so that's so exciting do you know where the location is yeah uh yes it was dominican Republic oh we've just been there oh my god we must share a story you're gonna say it was awful no we were in a club there we did nothing okay okay that was a bit like survival yes all inclusive surviving and all inclusive surviving with the champagne yeah oh it's a great place to go I'm really I'm really excited it feels like a real um I don't I feel real pleasure that the BBC have sort of trusted me with it because it's quite a big show to be trusted with you're also We're going on a lovely holiday.

8:55I'm going on a lovely holiday. Hannah, are you going to work? We're going to combine some trips, aren't we, so that we can go and at least see each other a little bit. See each other and continue our marriage. Also, I just want to have a better tan than you. If you're away for that long. I'm determined the hotel's got a gym. I'm going to come back so tanned and so ripped that my wife is going to just absolutely not leave me when I get back. How long have you two been together? almost seven years seven years in december that's a long way away but six and a half years yeah we got married right before covid so that we learned a lot about each other yeah we were immediately went into lockdown and realized that we'd never made that many dinners together yeah was that a sad and worrying realization it felt very real it felt very married the amount of dinners that we'd had together because before that we were always traveling and separate and it was kind of like the fun part about it is that you wouldn't see each other for a while and then it all still felt exciting and then they were locked down with each other the dinner table going what should we have tonight what shall we do tonight are you good cooks we we have improved I'd say since lockdown talking about the L word but yeah we through like box meals yeah those recipe cards taught us to cook because I'm under a lot of pressure because Joel's mum is an amazing cook and as a result your sister-in-law has stepped up and my dad is like essentially a professional chef they're all good so I'm I'm at the bottom of the rank so I've decided to just bow out and just to be appreciative of the food I can't compete Penny Domic's lasagna is amazing your sister-in-law's now got you know she's rivaling her own she will always come with a homemade dish and I'm like guys here's the wine and here's some baked goods that I didn't bake and they'll taste amazing she brings the banter I think that's really important and also to not feel like you need to compete you're comfortable I will let your sister-in-law have it she can take the reign.

11:06I will never compete with a mum. Do you think there was competition? I think there is. I think your mum would love it if I was a better cook. Do you not think? No. Every time she's come round, we've ordered in. Do you feel judged? Maybe. Do you feel judged? Can I say that? Yeah, you can. Safe space. Would you judge me if your daughter-in-law was a bad... Not a bad cook. No. But not... I wouldn't care. Do you think I should risk it? That's what I see. I'm saying, you know that you're a good person. and she knows that you're with, that I'm with a lovely human being. So I could be a bitch, but an amazing cook.

11:40Yeah, I'd rather have the other way. Yeah, me too. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's fine. I think that's definitely fine. But I do want to know about your mum's cooking now. What is a very, well, what's a memorable dish for both of you from your mum? Well, very different. So my, my parents divorced when I was younger, but they, my, so my mum was a farmer's wife. So my mum's cooking. So your dad was a farmer? Yeah. So my dad was a farmer. So I grew up in sort of a farming home. What about? Near Gloucestershire. Oh, that's the right place. That's where all the Leyton's own lot are going now.

12:14Stroud. Oh, really? Oh, babe. Proper pot of coffee. Oh, trendy now, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah, we had a dairy farm. So my mum was sort of a farmer's wife. And so the meals that I grew up having were very sort of like homely, sort of you know like stews and shepherd's pie mints and gravy but we all did that did you love it? I loved it, lasagna the kind of meals that last for the next day you know you reuse those ones did you milk the cows? I do remember riding the cows weirdly not in a sexy way just to remember I remember like my dad this is basically my only memory of the farm it's like my dad leading me down the road once and putting me on top of a cow thinking back now, very irresponsible why did he do that?

13:13who knows, maybe I was the first guy to ever tame a cow how old were you? I have absolutely no idea I would assume very young did you enjoy it? clearly I remembered it usually the early memories are the traumatic ones No, they're not. Yeah. What's your first memory? Being in a pram. My sister pushing me. Okay, that's not traumatic. What was your first memory? My first memory. Do you know what? It's food related. Yeah. Dad loved spicy food, left the Tabasco lid slightly open. I was at an age where I'd put everything in my mouth. Traumatic. Traumatic. Wow. What's your first memory then? Riding a cow?

13:50Riding a cow. I was sexually abused by a cow. That's all I remember. That's all I remember about it. So, okay, your mum does really great homely, gorgeous meals. What's your memorable dish from Joel's? What's Joel's mum's called? Penny. Penny. What's a penny dish for you that has just been like, I'm bowing out of this battle? It's the roast. It is the roast. It is good. It's good. It's good. The crumble's very good. Crumble banoffee pie. Oh, yeah. It's good. I don't like banoffee pie. Did you tell her? How do you not like it? It's so good. Is it the banana? It's the banana. I'm not a big toffee, caramel toffee person.

14:34Okay. But you all love it and I feel really bad because I'm coming in at the outsider and I just have to agree. And I'm not a massive dessert. It is a lot of toffee on it, isn't it? Yes. It's a condensed milk. One of my earliest memories, again, to go back. This might be dramatic again. You rode a ostrich. Banoffee pie. was my mum used to cook the condensed milk in the tin. Yeah, you do. Before you used to be able to get it. You can get it ready, mate. Yeah. But you can put it in a tin and just boil it. Boil it. What happened? And she left it and then the water went down and the condensed milk exploded all over the kitchen.

15:13So she was like having to, you know, literally get like paint scrapers to get a sort of banoffee off our roof. that's one of my earliest memories. Hannah what about your childhood? What's a really memorable dish from your childhood? It's so different to your upbringing because I was brought up in Holland so my mum's Dutch and my dad is English so we grew up in Holland and Dutch food is like a thing in itself so you for breakfast you have cheese you can have cheese breakfast lunch and dinner yeah You have this thing called Hachelslag, which is, yeah, slag. Hachelslag, which is like chocolate sprinkles, what we'd use for cake decorations, essentially.

15:57On bread? On bread. Yeah. How delicious. That's kind of like what the French having, their Gouter with the Nutella and bread. Exactly. So you can get, it's all different type of sprinkles, so you can get dark chocolate, white chocolate, and there's just aisles in the supermarkets in Holland of different chocolate sprinkles. so when we came here we'd like looked for chocolate sprinkles and they come in those tiny containers you know for cake decorating like oh we're gonna need a hell of a lot more of this so we just every year we'd go and visit family and we'd just bring empty suitcases to holland and we'd bring food chocolates chocolate sprinkles that's fascinating we'd go through airport security and they'd go can you just open your suitcase and there'd be 20 boxes of chocolate sprinkles Did they think you were smugglers?

16:42Yeah. Yeah, they never checked within the boxes. How do they know? Yeah. So how old were you when you left Holland? I was five. But you don't have a Dutch accent. No, my mum does. But yeah, my mum would carry on talking Dutch to me in the playground, around friends, and I'd say, stop talking silly, talk properly. Oh, don't. I know. It kills me now. I can still understand Dutch, but I can't. I think it's a confidence thing about speaking it but there's loads of random foods so you would you'd have your dinner at lunch you'd come home from school you'd have your dinner at lunchtime as a family and then in the evening you would Lenny you'd have cheese you'd have cheese like you would have cheese and ham cheese on bread like it was just different when we moved to England it was a little bit more structured I knew Monday was vegetable night so I'd always try and get invited to a friend's house.

17:38That's really good. Because I'd be like, oh no, I'm going around a friend's house to play. But it was very much more, it was healthy, but it wasn't homemade. It was more sort of sweet and sour chicken. And then, you know, maybe beans. I mean, I've survived, I'm healthy, but it wasn't Penny Domit level. I'm really obsessed with you two as a couple because you are looking into each other's eyes like you are just meeting each other for the first time. We don't talk. We don't talk any other time than podcast. It's really like, I can feel the chemistry. You really like each other. You obviously really fancy each other, but you are kind of mad about each other.

18:20We do really like each other still. We do make each other laugh a lot. You look at each other, it's really lovely. It's gorgeous. We are at seven years, and that's when the each happens. Yeah, I suppose so. I suppose so No we do generally like I mean I respect you We always say We do really We We We feel like We met each other At the perfect time I feel like I don't Really necessarily Believe in the one You know Because that's ridiculous This is the first You've heard of that The first that Hannah's heard about There's a story out to me There's someone else That's out there for me I've just got to find them Can I ask So you just missed him Saying that he's Got the itch He was about to go And have an affair Oh my God.

19:04I want to know where you met. We met on the internet. We met on Instagram. Did you? Yeah. Who slid into who's here? Well, it wasn't a dating app. She slid into yours. She slid into mine. She loves to tell everyone about it. Where had you seen him? That's so mean. Had you seen him perform? Had you seen him on the telly? It was the year that Joel was in the I'm a Celebrity Jungle. Yeah. As a contestant. But I was not living in this country. I was living in Miami. I mean, you don't get ITV. I say this every time. So you didn't vote for him? I didn't vote for him. I didn't know who Joel Domit was.

19:36Yeah, it's just like Meghan Markle didn't know who Prince Harry was. You know. I've deleted all my tweets. You'll never know. But then I got home and it was coming home for Christmas and you were doing your Lorraine Loose Women press stuff post-jungle and I saw an interview that you were doing and you just seemed very happy. You were drunk and I was into it. Yeah, yeah. You were drunk on Lorraine? It was because of the Australian time difference. I was going to say it a bit early. She was like, that guy drunk in the morning, he's for me. Yeah, and then we sort of messaged back and forth. So you said, I loved you being drunk on Lorraine.

20:18Let's go for a drink. It was pretty much, I went on to Joel's Instagram, just tried to get a little bit of a background. I just had nothing to lose because I genuinely didn't know. I think if I'd watched you in the jungle, I probably wouldn't have messaged you because I would have felt like I knew you too well in a strange way but because I sort of thought this guy's cool and Miami the dating scene there is very loose everyone dates for years and they're not in a relationship they're just like I'm dating four girls what were you doing in Miami? I was working so I model but why Miami? you do lots of swim wearing It was at the time.

20:58It's hard to believe when you look at the limitless breasts here. They're not chic. Fashion breasts. Thank you. We like fashion breasts. Fashion breasts. Oh, I like that. That's such a good phrase. Chic. Chic. There's bras for fashion breasts. And that's what my forte was. Okay. So I was out there doing that. And then I came back and, yeah, and I had this loose attitude to dating. And I thought, what's the worst that could happen? What's a loose attitude exactly, Hannah? No expectation, you know? Oh, I see. So you just go with the flow. Go, just slide into... So you're not really picking someone out with their credentials.

21:36You're not ticking off... No. You just thought, oh, like eating chocolates, I'll have a... Yeah, celebrations package. You're going to have a bounty. See how that goes. Not social, yeah. I think that's important, no. I always think that you have to sort of have a celebration box of dating because you need to know once you get to your favourite you need to know that you don't like the Bounty so he definitely, he wasn't the no, the Bounty's my favourite were you going to say Fudge? no, he wasn't the Fudge Fudge, see? my least favourite is the Bounty I love the Bounty I love the Bounty I love the Bounty so what's your favourite?

22:18my favourite would be the Malteser no! Oh, I love the Malteser too. That is coiling. It's so good. No. No, thank you. It's better than Maltesers. It's better than the original Malteser. Because it's got chocolate with a little crunch in. Hannah, Hannah. The important answers, come on, don't judge me, but I'm a Milky Way girl. Oh my God, those are the ones that get behind us. Save them for the brunch. Oh, I'll take them. I'll take them off your hands. Eat the edges. Take the top off your chest. I should have brought them. I've got done past the parcel for the kids' birthday and we left all the Milky Way, so I should have brought them out for you.

22:50See, there is someone for everyone I like Twix You don't That's what you have with a cup of tea Absolutely I've actually met you before, Jessie And this is going to be bad It's not embarrassing to you Because you wouldn't remember Was I drunk? Now I'm going to talk to you about it I'm going to remember it Again, the reason I remember it Is because it was traumatic for me Not in a terrible Are you about to get me cancelled? You were lovely, I promise you. I'm gonna remember this as soon as you tell me, come on. Right, so I used to do MTV News. Oh my god! Okay, go on that. Jesse, don't pretend. Right, and I remember it because I was so like.

23:34Did you call me Jesse J? No. Okay. Kind of the opposite of it. I went, it was at the Armani shop, this event thing. I was doing and nobody listened. Yes, and it was really hard. and I was sort of very new as a comedian at the time so I was a comedian but then they gave me this MTV News job and so I was like trying to entertain the crowd and they were just stood there really bored it was really horrible remember it was you Connor Maynard was on oh I remember him and I went up on stage and because no one was listening I was really panicking and I went everyone and I reeled off the singles that you were doing at the moment it was really me and I went ladies and gentlemen please welcome to the stage Jessica Ware Jessica and the whole of the audience just looked at me went Jessica what is my name that's not what you're known as and you got a laugh but it wasn't and I felt so oh my god just because it rolled off the tongue wrong and I felt so embarrassed oh my god I'm so sorry for you 15 years does it feel better to let it out oh so good I forgive you I've talked about it every day oh my god mate that was a hellish gig for both of us So don't worry.

24:49You stole your jacket. Yes. This is really bad. Basically, for this event, they said, because they can't, at that point, when I was on MTV News, they would always hint to me, because I didn't, I didn't know anything about telly at that point. I knew nothing. Did you know about music? I kind of, but not really. Why do you think you got the gig? I have no idea. It's genuinely the same nowadays when I get given this survivor job or any of these jobs, master singer. I'm like, why are you me? I mean I feel very fortuitous but I'm like I don't get it and at that point it was the same I was like why have I been given this job and I would literally just host the news every day in like this just a t-shirt I found in my cupboard that was all crinkled up and they kept on being like Joel we're going to give you a voucher for some clothes so you can go buy some clothes so you look nice on the telly and I'd be like okay but they're lucky to have you're handsome Joel like you're handsome cheek Back in the day, you were in a bit more...

25:47Back in the day, a bit more rugged. Puberty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, what? That's very different. Without beard. But they gave me, for that event, they gave me an Armani suit. Yeah, it was fab. How fab that was worth doing it. Did you keep it? But then the week after, they said they wanted it back. They didn't. So I had to give it all back. They didn't. But then the same day that they wanted the suit back, they said they weren't going to renew my contract, and I didn't want me to be at MTV News anymore. And so I just kept the suit and I've still got it to this day. You just said like a big fuck you.

26:23Yeah. Fuck it, I'm having the suit. Have you worn it again? I have, yeah. It still fits me. Is it because you said Jessica Ware? Jessica said Jessica Ware. Is that why you... I mean, there's no coincidence about it. A week later you got sacked. It was actually me. Yeah, Nicole. How dare you? I'm sorry, now I've got it out of my system. I'm sorry. You lost your job because of me. nearly the Armani suit. Get this guy out. You kept the Armani suit. That's brilliant. I kept it. You should have worn it tonight. Oh, damn it. Did you lose lots of weight when you were in the jungle? I did, yeah. How much weight did you lose?

26:59I lost a stone and I haven't really got sort of, at that point I don't really have stone to lose for sure. Because you're not a big bloke, are you? Was the food thing horrible or did you just get used to it? It's real. That's what I would say about it, is that people assume that you're given snacks or something, but you're really not. You're so hungry. And you're just surviving on rice and beans and this tiny little thing. You basically eat twice a day. And you're just a tiny little bit in a pot. And when you do do well in the trials, you get a little bit extra, but it's often quite hard to eat.

27:33So I was just like skin and bones. I really was. I didn't watch your series. Apologies. That's quite all right. But did you do well? I came second. okay so you did great that is very good it's almost like when the X Factor who won? Scarlet Moffat that year so you're the Harry Styles yes you're the Harry Styles I'll take that I'll take that it was really amazing I feel like I sort of went in there very unknown person no one really knew me I was just a sort of comedian at that point and did MTV News and a few tiny other TV things not really much stole some goods got in the jungle and you know it's gone really well afterwards it's going really well I feel very lucky it makes kind of sense that you do Survivor right?

28:18yeah it feels good we've been binging the Australian version at home together it's so big people that love it it must be beloved because it's been going for so long do you feel like you're hooked now? we've already done four episodes this morning yeah not because you need to for work I love that when you have to do research yeah exactly with popcorn in the day there's nothing better than daytime viewing it's like a level of guilt it's like sunking off we say that yeah we're like sunday we're like after breakfast should we just watch telly and have a cup of tea and we're like oh it's the best so good we need to get out more where do you live we live like um southwest london it's a bit further sort of near waybridge way is this true because I was in when I was listening to you on the radio I was in a cab and so this guy I was like yeah I'm actually meeting this guy tonight who's on the radio and he went Joel Dormann and I said yeah yeah and he went you used to live in Peckham Rye yeah picked him up once oh my god I know all of these connections we have I know when I first moved to London I just I was like 19 I didn't really know what I wanted to do but I just knew I didn't want to live where I grew up so I just kind of moved to London I knew one person who I met at MIT and I just lived in a room in his house for like, it was£60 a month.

29:43Wow. Right? And I remember thinking, I can't afford that, it's too expensive. Oh, wow. And I'm asking him like, I want it to be 30. And he was like, no. He was like, oh God. He was like that. Please tell them what you ate every day. I used to eat so badly. I used to eat, I used to go to Sainsbury's and get the Taste the Difference cookies. They are really good. The really good ones, the raspberry ones and white chocolate. So you weren't that poor because they would Taste the Difference. That's pretty good actually Taste the Difference. I was so poor I could only afford to Taste the Difference.

30:17And I used to know where our local Sainsbury's, what time they would cook the cookies. And so I'd go there when they were fresh out the oven. You were unemployed then. I was very much unemployed. Just living off cooking. I used to just live off sweet stuff. I didn't even know that you were supposed to, like, eat proper. And I used to buy, like... But you just had all these bloody stews. You were like... I know. Yeah, and then you'd buy these pizzas. And you said that you would get tins of tuna. So I lived in Elephant Castle. I had a liddle opposite me. So I used to go in, I used to buy these pizzas, and then buy tuna.

30:52And just put the tuna on the... On the Lisa. And then put loads of extra grated cheese on top. A Neptune pizza. A Neptune pizza. Put it in. And in my head, I was like, because I put so much extra cheese on, it would bulge over. I'd put it in. I remember at the time I was trying to get fit and go to the gym. And in your innocence as a youngster, I remember thinking, oh, this is healthy because tuna's protein. Yeah. Cheers. Completely discounted effects on a pizza with cheese on top, mountainous amounts of it. And then a whole vanilla New York cheesecake. New York cheesecake, he used to buy the whole thing from Tesco's and then just go in with a spoon and eat the whole thing.

31:31So he went to Sainsbury's, Sainsbury's, you'd taste the difference cookies, then you'd walk to Lidl for your pizza with tuna and then you'd go to Tesco's with vanilla. They liked to spread it about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Use all of them. You were too unemployed. Yeah. You had so much time to go to three supermarkets. So even though you're not the greatest cook, you've lived in Miami, you've lived in Holland, Do you appreciate good food? Do you like going and eating out? Tell me some of the spots in Miami that used to eat her. I do feel like I am a foodie, which was very hard because I've been a model for so many years over my whole 20s.

32:10I was saying this to you the other day. It's like, actually, when I look back at my 20s, I feel like I suppressed so many opportunities of amazing food. Like, I love tacos. They're my favourite food in the world. Tacos and sushi, I could live on for the rest of my life. but actually in hindsight until the lockdown happened and pandemic and that I sort of stopped modeling I looked back at my 20s and I was like I definitely ate I was a commercial model so I did catalog and like more smiley stuff so it wasn't super skinny um editorial sort of models catwalky stuff so I got away with eating it sounds ridiculous saying that but you made so many subconscious choices when looking at menus I was just like well I have to have the salad I have to have that and I just think god I've missed so many great opportunities in restaurants because I'm not a massive gym goer like I don't have like a an amazing relationship with the gym so it's just easier to to make those sacrifices in food rather than which in hindsight I'm like I should have had the burger and worked out there's still time but now then as soon as the pandemic hit and I also turned 30 it was it's been like so liberating because I've just now I don't think about it at all.

33:21And I feel like I'm making up for lost time. Sometimes it's a bit worrying. I know you think when I order stuff, I'm like, and this, and the side, and that. I'm like, my whole 20s, I've like not done it. So now I'm like, God, life's too short. I have the three meals. I want to know about your first date. After the DMs happened, who chose the food location and what did you eat? We went to Shoreditch House, a posh members club, isn't it? I was showing off Were you impressed? I would too I pretended I wasn't impressed We were also both late We were both exactly the amount of late I think it matched each other We were both 8 minutes late So I knew we were meant for each other We were both exactly the same amount of late So you saw her, did your Georgia straw?

34:12Well he'd already seen her on the ground Yeah but in real life it's different What did you think when you saw her? slightly shorter than I thought I am tall I am tall you are tall she's taller than me did you say you were taller Joel I don't know whether I did but people do all say when they meet me in real life if they've seen me on television they're like oh I thought you were taller you're shorter than I thought your autograph that's terrible everyone says it what did I say sure I'm crying to the like but it's not You didn't say it to him No I'm like 5 '11 and a half Which has gone down half an inch You're not six foot basically And she is six Right okay God damn it Again that was But you've got You know The quiff Yes The quiff is getting bigger That's what he includes In the six foot That's the problem It doesn't count So what did you Did you share spaghetti Like Lady and Tramp What happened We were going to eat We were going to have drinks And it was around Christmas And I don't know why we just had all the drinks that we'd never had before so we had a mulled wine oh my god this is not the way you should go Irish coffee oh my god a gin and tonic like I haven't had an Irish coffee since I don't know why I thought it was a cool guy but like excuse me can I have an Irish coffee as if I thought that was going to be like sexy winter's not a lead what time and what time of day was this it was like in the evening I was a bit jet lagged because of Australia still.

35:46Oh, so that's the Irish coffee. So I was like trying to kick myself into action a little bit. I don't think espresso martinis existed, well. No. Oh, so it was like, as soon as you were off that plane, you were meeting each other. Oh, he was keen. Oh. Too keen. Oh my God. It wasn't that sexy. I actually had to turn you down. Yeah, so this is a very spicy story, and you're welcome to tell it, Hannah. Are you going for the... I don't know if you can leave out the X-rated bit. No, oh, please don't. No, Hannah, come on. so I it's Thai day I basically I got I actually had another program that I might have made after the jungle and then so I made that for a week and then I said to Hannah I was like I'm back from this this filming I would love to meet you we've been texting for probably a week or so I land Wednesday morning do you want to meet up Wednesday night and I thought from he's in Kenya I thought I come back from Liverpool and I'm jet lagged let alone Kenya I was like this guy's going to be no fun if he's that jet lag but did you say yes so I went no sorry I'm busy I wasn't I wasn't I just didn't want to immediately sound available okay and so I was like no sorry I'm busy but I am free Thursday I thought is he gonna make the time for me is he that serious about it and that's it and I forgot about it and then I went instead on Wednesday on a date with my ex-girlfriend yeah You're getting at the grass, friend.

37:14Oh, but I'm not stupid. So she went on my tagged photos. My spidey sense was like, I know that he had Wednesday night free because he asked me out on a date. So he's just come, he's clearly on the dating scene, so I thought this guy's out on another date. So did you look at his Instagram? I sound like an absolute psychopath. This is a bit kind of you. You're being quite Joe at the moment. But I just want to know Because then you lower your expectation No she's got She's the CEO of dating She's managing the situation Yeah she's managing it She's CEO So I went on Joel's Instagram I'm fine to say this because we're married now If it didn't work out I would sound a little bit psycho And I saw on his tagged photos That he was at Winter Wonderland And I thought he's on a date Winter Wonderland I think you got the better date though babe Yeah true, I definitely got the better date But then when I met you How did you know?

38:17Because people are taking pictures with me You don't go to Winter Wonderland with your mates Do you? Schoolboy era What have I taught you? The next day when I met up with him I just thought this guy is just dating around He's a player He's a player but also he's a comedian, I'll have a good night Let's have a couple of free drinks and we'll go home But after the Irish coffee and the mulled wine And all of that stuff Did you kiss first? Well, Joel didn't want the date to end. So we went to another restaurant. Did you eat at all? Oh, because it's only 24 hours. Yeah, did you eat? So then... After all that alcohol.

38:52At Duck and Waffle we ate. Yeah. But Joel, you have to take a lift that's very fast. To the very top. Yes. And Joel's scared of heights. Oh, for fuck's sake. So, that was his move. Jesus. He grabbed me in the lift and kissed me. Yeah. It sounds I like this And he said I'm frightened Hold on to me You didn't say that It looked to her As if it was like passionate And just he grabbed me But in reality it was because I was scared of heights And I just needed to grab something And I was like just distract me from this I was like whoa okay this guy's forward But it worked Oh my god I mean that's great Did you get out of the lift or did you stay going up and down We just went up and down on half a down.

39:38Half a down, half a down. That's amazing, that's great. It was lovely, yeah. And then, and now we're married. Yeah, well another food related first date thing was that the third time I've met you, that was our first date. Then we'd gone, you took me to a TV recording on the second date, left me in a green room with Lionel Richie. Not Lionel Richie, Lionel Blair. You can't get those two mixed up. You can't get those two mixed up. We were dancing on the ceiling. Unbelievable. That sounds better. Wait, Lionel was cheap. You left me in the green room with Lionel Blair. Bless him. The whole evening.

40:11So our second date was not with you. It was with Lionel. That was really not great. No. He did a little bit. You know when he was waiting for his cab, he did a little bit of a tap dance. Oh, I love him. He was like, it's such a... When I think about it, I cannot believe that you're still with me. And our third date. That is cringey, actually. Horrible. I basically was like, I'm doing a live... Such a green room. Yes. I'm really famous. I'm going to take you to a TV recording. Oh god I'm so sorry But then our third date More for you Hannah because you're still here Yes Our third date we'd agreed that we'd spend new years together And we were going up to Cornwall Third date Hey I was going to go back I was going to go back to Miami in January We basically had two weeks to date It was like we either go for this Or we don't What was in Cornwall My friends were doing I've got nothing to lose.

41:07I love this. You're like an adventure, like girl seeker. I want to know as much as I can as soon as possible, because then you just don't waste your time. I love that. I can get you probably in a little bit of trouble, but I think it's like, otherwise you waste six months and then you don't, you haven't met the parents, you haven't met all of us. But this was too much. Yeah. On the third date, I took the train, met you halfway, you were going to pick me up because you just had your your Christmas at your family and you picked me up in your car and you said do you want to go to my dad's house do you want to meet my dad and I went no we're driving past we might as well stop in for food shall we and I went oh I don't think that's like I think I think that's too much and you were like no it's fine he's made us some lunch so I was like you've already said we're going haven't you so I met your dad on our third date and your dad made spaghetti which is like the worst possible meet the parents meal nightmare yeah it was everywhere and that was the third date okay but so when did you propose i know a year in first of january yeah which that was too soon as well a year in you proposed i thought i would have thought it would be bloody you know it was a year it's a year it was the the um our year anniversary sorry so that which is so insane to think about it now because in my head when we were together for a year i was like we know each other so well let's be together forever and now you look back and i'm like we did not know each other at all at all oh it seems to be going all right oh it's so wild i wrote a book i was writing a book at the time and i wrote a book about uh the the people that I'd dated and slept with.

42:57Oh my God. Why did you decide that to be your material? Why did you do that? Had you been hopeless? Sort of, but it was basically me. I know. He's lucky you are with him. Were you like material for the book? I can't, not. Did you need an ending? Yeah, that was the ending. So she was the ending of my book. So I basically, I used that as a framework for the book for all the stories that we're going to be in. Carrie Bradshaw, mum. Yes, yes. And I got to think. And so I wrote this book with that, and the framework was the people that I dated. Did you have to ask her? I changed all their names and stuff, so it's okay.

43:37And then I used the, that was all the sort of chapters with the names of different people, and did that by that way. And then. There was a lot of chapters. There was a lot of chapters. And then I framed the whole book as if it was my first date with Hannah and I was telling her all of the stories of the people that I had been with and then I I the end of the book I then fast-forward a year and I'm like we've been together a year now and then I did a really nice final chapter and I I gave Hannah the first copy of the book and it had a final page ripped out. You told me I had to read it because my name was my naming it so for legal reasons i had to cross check it i got to the end of the book yes i got to the end of the book and it was finished properly like the publisher had finished the book properly so it didn't look like a page was ripped out it just thought it's great like well done like six months hard work you've done amazing but it just ends a bit abruptly he was like yeah they're not very happy with the ending so it's going to go back and we're going to change it and i was like okay well I'll be home in about 15 minutes and he was like all right and then that's when I got home to Peckham in the flat and I opened the door and basically I was hit in the face with a heat wave there was about 150 tea lights on the floor oh Joel had a candelabra in his hand yeah he looked like a haunted house it was like mad he was like come in come in I was like what the hell is this like had no idea still no idea and he was like sit down sit down and he'd like poured champagne and I took a sip of champagne it was flat so you'd clearly poured it a while ago you've taken longer to get there than I anticipated there was like dinner on the table and it was a pret salad turned upside down onto a plate it was really bad just so wet it was like a wet from lunchtime old pret salad.

45:37Just like croutons and just because I thought oh what would she want? I know that's how he views me a soggy pret salad. A soggy little like sort of rabbit food it was awful. And I was like well okay yep Joel cool. Did you think he'd lost his mind? Yes yes and then he'd like sort of turn around he was like sit down sit down sit down I was like okay and he gets out this page of this book and I go oh here we go it's the premiere of Joel's book this is Joel through and through sit down, big launch he was in a suit and everything I thought okay yep we'll entertain this like okay cool and then he starts reading and it's very lovely words about me and you're very complimentary and then he gets to the last line and he says so that's why Hannah Cooper will you marry me and he's down on one knee grabs a ring there's going to be a rom-com about this is that the ring that he got that's the ring then well let me have a look oh darling that's gorgeous I don't know how I got it right because you loved that ring that's why you got a pret salad bag yes yeah yeah couldn't afford anything else I ever sent off at the end of the day I want to know all the people you wrote about did you get hate mail from all these people you'd have relationships with I actually, we always laugh about this.

46:58Like every relationship I've been in, I've ended really well. And they're like, you know. They're still friends. They all came to your wedding. Yeah, yeah. Oh, if I didn't stop it, they probably wouldn't. Yeah, yeah. I don't really like, I don't argue really. So I'm like, all my past relationships just. So it's always, it's not you, it's me. Yes, yes. If you're just worried that they'll tweet about you. Yes, yeah. That's all you're worried about. That too, yeah. That too. That too. okay so that was I really I thank you for that story I loved it I was here for it I do think it could be a really good rom-com yeah Richard Curtis maybe you should get him on the phone it's great yeah I love it music by Jessica

47:43let's talk about your last supper I guess we could either you could both choose very different ones or you could combine yours what you want to do oh Should we have our own? Yeah. Should we have our own? Yeah. It would probably be the same annoyingly. Yeah, it probably would be actually. Let's see. Alright, you start. Start. It's a game of Mr and Mrs. Yeah. Maybe we should write them down. Yeah, I'll write them down. See how well we... Okay, this is good. Yeah, I think I know what I'm going to pick. We genuinely have not discussed this, so this will be a true test of our relationship. Yeah, I think I know.

48:15Jessie's got to get paper and pen. Okay, so what you're gonna do is you're gonna fold it over. So you're gonna do whatever but you need to fold it over. Start the main dessert. Drinks? Starter, main, dessert, drink of choice. So I need to do what I think Joel's will be. Oh, should we do that? That's really fun. Okay. Oh, okay. I'll do what I think yours are. Oh no, are we divorcing is this? It's not right. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. I think I'm done. Okay. Okay, got it. All right. Okay. I don't think they're gonna match. Okay. But what if they do? Okay, so Hannah, what is your starter? That I think Joel...

49:02No, that you would like. Oh, I think I've got this wrong, but I think if it was our last meal, on a date night that we would pick oysters. Oh. You got it right. What? You got oysters right. Yeah, because I wrote that down. Oh, shit. Okay, yeah, no, you didn't get it right. Okay. This is awful. Hang on. Did you just write what you liked? No. What did we both like? Right. Oh, God. This is awful. This is awful. Okay, screw the paper. It's not a new ITV format. Screw that. We've seen a divorce. We don't know each other at all. Don't know each other. If we were, I'm talking for us, right? That's what I'll do.

49:50Yeah. I think that our starter would be oysters. But not because we really like them, but because we think we're fancy. We like the theatre of it. And if I was going to die, I'd want people to think I was posh. Yes. You know what it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like... What did you say? What did you say? Croquettes, ham and cheese croquettes. Oh, that's good. Oh. So you forgive him? Forgive him. Okay, main. They're so good, I love it. Main? Main, I put. Three, two, one, tacos. Tacos, yeah. Oh. You hesitated. I said it afterwards, but it did, I wrote it on the paper. Tacos? Yeah. Tacos. Mince, barbecue, tacos.

50:31Mince, barbecue, tacos, are they a little gusto fade? Oh my God, we make them ourself, and we just put mince and we put this barbecue stuff on it like peppers onions it's basically a burger in a wrap it's basically a burger in a taco and then you I make the guacamole yeah we made up so good okay we have it like once a week and it's our favorite thing in the world did you mean the mince tacos of course not the Miami fresh fish Fresh fish. Fresh fish. Okay, not too bad. Okay, what did you think for a pudding? Pudding. One, two, three. Tulum birthday cake. Oh, God. I'm so shit at this. Cookie dough.

51:15Cookie dough. Cookie dough is better. Yeah, cookie dough is better. But you said cake from Tulum. Yes. So why did you go to Tulum on your honeymoon? We went to Tulum on our honeymoon, and you had a birthday cake there, because it was your birthday at the same time, And it was your favourite thing that you've ever tasted. You know when they give you a free birthday cake in a restaurant? In a restaurant, it honestly was the most delicious. I don't know if I was drunk or whatever, but it was the best thing I'd ever tasted, which was a wonderful evening. You go home, that's it. You have that memory for the rest of your life.

51:49But somehow I turned into an absolute mental person. She was like, I have to have this cake again. And I was like, I need to have it again before we leave. so we went to the same restaurant like two nights later and we had a whole meal just so i could try and get this birthday cake again because you can imagine right going back so we we had a birthday cake because it was her birthday and then going back three days later and be like hi it's my birthday and they're like you said that three days ago and it's clearly not your birthday again but then i said okay okay it's not my birthday but i really loved the birthday cake could i possibly have it as a dessert and they said no you can only have it if it's your birthday that's so mean and i said but i will pay for it like i will pay it as a dessert to have us and they said no that is and i was so to limit this is ridiculous and i said right i will pay the cost of two desserts if i can just have this and this is like a curb episode there was no it really is there was no space on any table so they moved us to the bar and then i they bought out this birthday cake yeah and they handed it to a woman down at the other end of the bar.

52:54Motherfuckers! I walked up to her. She ate it. Oh my God, they ate it. Fucking crazy. I walked up to her and I went, we'd waited an hour for this cake. Yeah, ages. I walked up to her and I went, I'm really sorry, but that's my cake. And she'd already like eaten like three, four bites of it. And she was like, okay. And I was like, well, I don't know what I wanted her to do. Did you want her to spit it back up? I don't know what I wanted, but I just, I was like, I'm really sorry. What were you doing? You were dying. I was dying of embarrassment in the corner. I couldn't believe she was going so mentally.

53:26She was like a rabid dog wanting like this cake. It was insane. It was so good. You don't understand. Did the lady give you her eating cake? So I was like, okay. It was like a cakewalk. Waited again for another one. Yeah. Eventually it came out. It was good. It was very good. It didn't taste as good as the birthday night because I was a little bit angry by the time I got it. Oh, man. But then the next year for my birthday, Joel got a bake-off chef to find out the recipe which this recipe is only available in Tulum it's like a famous type of Mexican cake apparently so he called up the restaurant tried to get the recipe I wouldn't give it to him kept calling trying to get it and then Joel recreated the cake as my birthday cake in XXL size for my birthday and was it really good?

54:15it was stunning unbelievably good that's a great move Yeah, it was really good. It's the best gift you've ever got me. I have to say, we have had another guest who's done a similar thing. Really? Oh. Olly Murs. I love Olly. So that makes sense. He did a similar thing. You're both quite romantic. He met somebody in lockdown in a car park who had been a Bake Off contestant who had done a really good, what are those dogs that are the Japanese family dogs? The Shibuya ones. Yeah, with the cute faces. Yeah they're not actually that friendly Yeah Apologies to listeners I don't think they're that friendly But they're beautiful They look a bit like foxes Yeah Oh yeah what's that one He got him to make that So that is quite interesting I met this guy in the same In a car park Felt like a drug deal Yeah Because it was like pandemic time Wait did Ollie say What supermarket car park Is this guy just hanging out Oh my god is it the same guy Could be the same guy Steven his name is from From Bake Off I'm going to have to fucking find this out That would be weird He's just like shotting cakes to all the fucking celebs' other hearts.

55:23In a colour pot. That's amazing. I'm into a cake. Yeah. You want a cake, man? I'll get you some cake. I'll get you some cake, man. You want some cake? That's amazing. Yeah. That was the best gift. Jessie, could I just ask you, sorry, what was the one thing you were supposed to do? What? The best. Yeah, I've done them. They're not cooked. They're al dente. They're raw. They're al dente. It's fine. I love them a bit, Chris. Yeah, that's fine. um okay i'm gonna get do you want me to get some plates out oh no i've done all that darling it's fine this is classic joel that's what joel does all the time yes yeah yeah no i'll just take this call and then i'll come and help how do it gets really oh i'm joel we're the same okay we're the cool guys we're the cool guys yeah we did like what happens is that like we go to i i say let's cook together and we go to cook together and then i go like oh you know i'm just gonna five minutes i'm just gonna have a shower because i'm just like a bit disgusting from the gym or something and then i'll come in at the last minute and serve it and it annoys hannah so much because she's like you're serving you're taking all of the glory man like he'll grate the last bit of cheese or put a herb on something and then claim the whole dish was here i i'm that person yeah i've been doing it i've been exploiting her for 15 series yes yes oh my god you're like fine i'll I'll just keep going.

56:48Thank you, Mum. It looks really nice. It looks so lovely. Please give yourself some pak choi and broccoli and rice. Oh, it smells amazing, Mum. This is like my perfect meal. Really? I love, like, rice on a chicken. Great. Vegetables. Did the Mars Singer start in America? It actually started in Korea. Korea? Mmm. And it was a much simpler version, but whoever came up with it in Korea is a very rich man now. and then it went to America and America bought it and made it much bigger and grander and more Americanised and then and then I think we were maybe second or equal second, Germany bought it at a similar time but now it's like in over 50 countries worldwide, it's such a, I think it sort of played into the hands almost of that perfect timing of the pandemic coming along where everyone just wanted silliness uh because the news was so serious and we were all having such a hard time around everything else so watching this sort of silliness on tv of someone just trying to guess who's in the closet it's so simple and and i and i love it i genuinely love it and i love the thing that i get all the time is it brings families together um more than any other show and so I get a lot of adults that come up to me and say like there's no other show that my teenagers will watch with me but we all watch together as a family in the front room.

58:20Sassy night variety. Exactly and um and I love that and uh yeah long may it last. Did you ever act? I mean you went to the National Union. Yeah I did I did a bit and I just was like. Oh there's some gems if you want to find them there are some absolute acting gems. On YouTube? Yeah probably. All over. Blockbuster stores somewhere you've been a rapper you've been you know theater product you've done a lot of roles a lot of bits and bobs to find where I was then but basically I sort of did acting because the guy I moved in with he was became like he went to RADA and he was like oh this guy's so great and cool and amazing so I started trying to be like him really and um and so I just uh yeah I just tried to be an actor but every over the course of a couple of years of doing these auditions and things that's that's why I started stand-up in the first place was because I had such little confidence I would go into these auditions and I would fall apart I wouldn't be able to do my lie I would just be so nervous I'd be shaking the script would be shaking in my hand so you went to the most terrifying place yeah stand-up I don't know why that what it says about me as a human being but like that was my answer saved it like i mean that's like mad but that's kind of and it helped yeah because i like i then i i sort of got involved in comedy and i sort of thought oh well if i do the comedy then everything else will feel easier as a result and um and so i uh yeah just did that and then i just became obsessed with comedy instead and then kind of left the acting behind and and then yeah carried on really can i ask both of you to think back to a taste that can transport you to somewhere or a smell like something that just immediately makes you be in that place preferably food related i've lost my smell i haven't had it back for now no three years yeah from COVID you've lost your smell yeah so I had the initial two weeks taste and smell gone taste came back thank God but the smells just never really come back properly I get a few things I get notes of like orange citrusy stuff vinegary things but no so that's really difficult because I love like smells who doesn't love smells like good smells what is What is the smell that you kind of long to smell?

1:00:51Croissants. Mmm, I love that smell. So yours would be croissants. Mmm. That's a good one. What about yours that can take you back to a holiday or a heartache? Really good smell. Or a taste? One of the best things I've ever tasted in my life. Yeah. And I have this taste every time I have chocolate. I like pure chocolate like it's like dairy milk um that's not pure chocolate that's not the best that you can add you mean plain like milk milk played chocolate the purest of pure okay um I so when I was in the jungle you obviously have nothing for like three weeks nothing at all and you get given a treat every now and again because you if you win it in like a challenge and once we won some chocolate and it was only enough that we have one square each we had any sugar I'd had no coffee, no sugar just rice and beans basically and we got given this little square of chocolate each and I'm not even exaggerating when I say I probably spent about half an hour on that one and just nibbling and the shoots of sugar to your brain because you've just you've been off sugar you just you forget how much of a powerful drug it is it's incredible and it was so delicious and I can remember that taste so vividly I remember just sitting on this log eating this one square of chocolate for like 20 minutes did anyone else last as long as you and just licking at it yeah I think we all were just so you know different people do it different ways only some people just like throw it straight in and swallow it down some people suck it and some people suck on it i was just like licking it every now again i just lick a different side oh my god oh my god after you got out because you know you're not a fan of chocolate now no no but it's just so important at that moment yeah yeah when you got out did you eat loads of chocolate then i like oh that's the thing that i loved then or i weirdly ate the things that i'd had in my mind you like you fantasize about food and you fantasize about really strange things you don't anticipate fantasizing about like for some reason I couldn't get out of my brain this breakfast that this ex-girlfriend years before right which Hannah doesn't make for me no but it's like it was like this she was polish so she would make this incredible like it was like scrambled eggs but it also had onions in it and it had tomatoes and bacon in it oh yeah Yeah, go for it.

1:03:32That looks amazing. Oh my gosh. Oh, it's chocolate sauce. I made it up. Oh, nice. But I had tasted it. It's inspired by when you went to Coke to price the rage. Oh yeah! Yeah. It's meringue, creme fraiche with whipped cream, and a tiny bit of coffee essence called Camp. Oh my god, it sounds amazing. Is that alright? Thank you so much. And then some candied nuts and chocolate sauce. Did you ask for the recipe? No, I just made it up. You just knew. That's good. Thank you. I made it up because I just worked out what was in it. And then I thought, I can do this. Have you made it for anybody else since?

1:04:12I did it for a dinner party. People are... Did that chocolate, did you make... Did you melt it with a Bain-Marie? Yeah, a bit. Did you? I don't know why I love saying Bain-Marie. It just makes me so happy when I say it. Has this got a name? I call it Millionaire's Dessert. Oooh! Wow. Oooh! It's good! Oh, it's good! Hazelnuts. Candid. Hand glazed. That is really good. This is really good. Yeah. You guys could do this. I often don't like things with coffee in it in desserts. I don't know why, but this has enough of it that it's like really sweet and delicious. Yeah, it's not tiramisu-y. Yeah, it's really good.

1:04:53It's good, isn't it? It's good, look how much is left. It's candied hazelnuts. I just did it by melting sugar. Mmm. And pouring it in. Bing! You can be alright for your gig. Mmm. Yeah, perfectly well. And you can watch another episode of Survivor. I'll be up when you get back. Yes. Mmm, mum, it's very good. Very good. Um, Hannah and Joel, thank you so much for being on this podcast. Such good fun. Thank you. You are such a great couple. You're such good fun. you are brilliant and I can't believe I'm about to do a gig now yeah while it's working man in ITV I put coffee in there yeah

1:05:46well I hate using this term but they are couple goals I'd say It's a bit like Belle. Belle, what, so Joel's the beast? No, he's not the beast at all, but the love. Oh, it was really something to behold. Yeah. They are so kind to each other. We should learn from that. They're very in tune and they're in love. Yeah. I thought they were great fun. They have such good fun and we thank them for coming over. You know, he's very grateful for how well he's done. And it's, he doesn't show off. He's just really pleased that he's, you know, he thinks he's lucky. And that was really nice. So brilliant. Had the best anecdotes.

1:06:32I really enjoyed having a blind date with Hannah and Joel Cooper-Domit. Yeah. Fabulous. Yeah. Imagine meeting them on holiday. You'd be like, if you're on the sunbeds next to them, you'd be like. Want to make friends. I want to get to the part where we're going for dinner together. That's what I want. Yeah. thank you for listening thank you to Hannah and Joel such a pleasure to meet you and just listen to your brilliant stories and we'll see you next week

From the publisher

We love a couple on Table Manners… this week we have Joel & Hannah Cooper Dommett join us for dins! 

Mum cooked delicious chicken with miso, lime, ginger and chilli & whisked up a Cote Brasserie inspired coffee and chocolate Eton mess - delish! 

We chatted all about their podcast adventures, plane spotting, smuggling chocolate sprinkles, how they met & who’s the best cook. 

What a laugh! Love these two.

Listen to this episode and go and listen to their podcast ‘Never Have I Ever’ x

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