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1:51Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm here in my house with my mum, Melanie. Hi, mum. Hi. It's a bit of a miserable day. I'd call it sweater weather. That may give you a hint of who we've got today. Oh really? Yes, it's an SNL sketch that she was a part of. I think we've got a person who's been so many different people. She's been Kamala Harris. Imagine if she could do a Lenny. Maybe we'll ask her to do a Lenny at the end. Imagine. I think no one can impersonate the real thing. Okay. Yes, she's been Kamala Harris. Yeah. Beyonce. Beyonce, oh yeah. The Christina Aguilera runs are Chef's Kiss, Maya Angelou.
2:31Yeah. ABBA. Apple. One of the boys, I think she gets. She's brilliant. She's also in one of the most iconic, funny films of, well, our lifetime, Bridesmaids. She's also the star and executive producer of a very, very successful show on Apple TV Plus called Loot. They're in their third season and that's why she's coming over. She plays Molly. Molly Wells, who is a billionaire who basically is a billionaire because she inherits a load from a divorce because her husband's having an affair and she doesn't really know what to do with it and she finds out that she has a housing. Is it a housing? She has a housing charity for homeless people and it takes her a long time to adapt to the notion of homelessness and poverty.
3:18But she's an adorable character and charming and endearing and there's such great characters in it. Her assistant, Nicholas. Love Nicholas. Arthur. Is she going to get together with Arthur in season three? Who knows? You'll find out in episode one. She's a very busy woman. She's got four children. And also her husband at the moment, it's being proclaimed that it's the greatest film of the last 30 years. And they're both doing a program. I'm sure it's very, very busy at the moment for both of them. We have Maya Rudolph coming to New Cross for some grub. Good. She's also a real foodie. She's presented a TV show called Baking It.
4:02And she's also done a kind of tour around the best eateries, kind of like an Anthony Bourdain style thing where she goes to the best kind of hole in the hole. Well, I hope you've tried your hardest, Joyce. I heard that she quite liked... I think she likes everything, but I'd heard her say that she liked fried chicken. I've done a version of fried chicken. I've done schnitzel, which is from the Mob app because it always serves me well. Kitty Coles' recipe on there. It's a hazelnut and spices schnitzel with an orange and fennel pickle that I made yesterday. And I have to, I'm putting my hands up.
4:38I had some help today. My gorgeous nanny, fabulous Rosie, is the queen of the potato. And I'm not fussed about potatoes, as you probably know. I know, you cut your hand off rather than you eat one. So she's made these delicious Parmesan potatoes that actually are quite delicious. And then what have you made for Pud? I've made an apple pecan and miso tart tartan that is my idea of heaven is it? yes okay I thought that I thought I'm not just going to do a straight tart tartan I'm going to make it a bit more which generation are we at now? A, B oh okay I don't think my four year old's caring about miso okay so then it's more of your gen I'd say millennial gen Z millennial gen Z miso yeah miso I'd never even heard of miso it's like salted caramel Yeah, that's all it is.
5:27It's like a salted caramel tart to tart. Yeah. Delicious. Yeah. And then we just ordered on delivery some cream and ice cream and creme fraiche. Yeah. So we have options. Because I left it in the house. So a really light meal, really. Yeah. Maya Rudolph coming up on Table Manners.
5:58Maya. Hi. You're here and I already love you. I know. You come in and you've taken all the drinks that I've offered to you. Three drinks. I'm just... No, but you know what? That was so I looked less, I mean, more generous than I was because there was only a tiny bit of coffee. No, this feels right. It was just a little... Just a little shot. Because I didn't sleep. I mean, I got here the day before yesterday and I had that night where you think, okay, I'm going to get to bed at 10 so I can get over the jet lag. And then I woke up at 3. Do you not take melatonin? I do sometimes. I didn't last night.
6:28Do you need some? Right now? Not right now, but I got you. Okay. Oh, thank you. I was just in LA for like four days last week. That's a hard turnaround. It was crazy. So I'm like, I just did my last day of melatonin. Now I need to wean myself off. Otherwise I'm like, this is for the children's lunches. Yeah. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me in your home. It's a pleasure. So you're in Promoting Loot. Yeah. Season three. Yes. Which is brilliant. I started it. Molly is on a desert island after a plane crash. Wink, wink. It's so charming. Oh, good. I'm glad. And the outfits are fab.
7:06Yeah, that's the fun part. There's a lot of, I feel like you're wearing a lot of talamamo. I don't know if you are. Yes. The caftans. I love a talamamo caftan. I love a caftan. I feel like Molly. You're talking about that white fringy one. Yeah. And I feel like you were wearing one in season one as well. Of course I was. Molly has good taste. She loves to dress up. And I think that if it were, you know, if there's any chance for a theme, she loves the theme, which I think is really fun. Yeah, I don't know where that came from, but we started that tradition in the first season and we haven't stopped.
7:37It's really fun. Do you keep any of the clothes? You mean steal them? Yes. Yeah, okay, fine. Yeah. Well, you're like the set producer now. Yeah, I'm allowed to take some things home. I've got a couple weddings and I had to go to my cousin's wedding in Italy, so I borrowed a couple things. From which season did you borrow? This season I borrowed a couple of things because my cousin got married in May in Puglia. Oh, gorgeous. Yeah, it was gorgeous. Puglia is gorgeous. I stomped on grapes. Oh, my God. The food was incredible. And I drank so much and stomped on grapes. Oh. So you made the new wine for us to drink next year?
8:13I guess. Is that sanitary? Was that what they did at the wedding? Yeah. Oh. Jessie, you missed a trick there, darling. I got married in Greece. Did you? That was never an option. We could have done olives. I do love Greece. Where did you get married? I got married on an island that we've been going to forever called Skopalos. Ooh. So I've heard of it, but I'm still... It's tiny. But I still feel like I'm so new to Greece because you can go to one island and feel like you have no idea. It's completely different. Yeah. I've been to Antiparos. Oh, Antiparos. I hear Antiparos is amazing. It's wonderful.
8:46Really good food. Really good food. But everything tastes good in Greece. That's true. Everything. think the peaches and the tomatoes you wonder what you've been eating when you eat a tomato in Greece I agree with you and I feel like I had never properly had Greek yogurt until I went to Greece and then I thought oh I'm so embarrassed for myself I thought I was eating Greek yogurt at home it doesn't translate no it's not the same it's just better creamy and lovely and then the honey is better there oh my god it's incredible our island is particularly good for I feel like Everyone's going to say their island's particularly good.
9:19No, I'm sorry. Our island is the greenest and the bluest. I believe that. I've got the door open, but we can close it now because I've been trying to get rid of the fumes of frying chicken. I heard you like fried chicken. Oh, great. I love good food. So whatever you make, I'll eat it. Because you've done a few food programs. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, like a baking one. But also you did one that everyone wants to do, which kind of Phil Rosenthal does as well. but you did one like a kind of Anthony Bourdain style one where you went to like and it was in 2020. Oh, I was that I was the narrator.
9:52Oh, that's annoying. I know. I wanted to be in it. But instead, I just got to look at all of it. But I learned a lot. They did get to send me some things. They were pretty amazing. So do you travel a lot with your four children? I mean, I don't think I travel as much as I could or should because of school. Isn't that boring? Where are they at home now? They're at home now. And where's home? California, Los Angeles. I grew up in Los Angeles, so it's my hometown. So, yeah. Do you still love it? I thought that I was a New Yorker. I chose New York, but then I ended up going back home. But I'm near my family, so I feel like it's important.
10:31My parents are there. And that's where they should be. My kids should know their grandparents. I was speaking to a fellow Los Angeles. What do you call yourself? Los Angelian. Los Angelian. Los Angelina Los Angelina That's what Jimmy Kimmel says Los Angelina Well you'd be a Lena wouldn't you Sure I don't know I never thought about that Yeah I like that So a fellow Los Angelina Cute Said that there's Los Angelina You are a different breed to the ones that come in That's how Londoners feel too Correct We're not the imports that make it look bad We're the cool ones that are like, we're low key. We're just more low key.
11:17Los Angeles is sprawling in the same way here. Like you have a lot of different micro climates and different neighborhoods. And people really retreat to their homes. You get London here, which is nice because you have a place where people all congregate, the proper city. Los Angeles is kind of just sprawling. It's enormous. You don't have a West End, really. No. Like where all the theater community is. downtown has that stuff but it doesn't have the same yeah so I'd always craved moving to New York because it has that city excitement I hate to be rude she is from Los Angeles so she likes it so careful I love Los Angeles but yeah I didn't make it you can say whatever you want all right so I love it and my other daughter lives there oh really yeah and then but when you're there it's very easy I can drive everywhere I can park everywhere everything it's cheap to park it's like they almost give you the parking and then but the one thing is you everyone walks around looking like they're either going to a yoga class isn't that crazy back they've always got something rolled under their arm and gym pants on that's right and trainers that's right you go to New York and everyone's dry see everyone looking quite chic yeah their glasses are beautiful but that's London to me too.
12:36Yeah. I think that was also the excitement to me growing up and seeing that cities, people got dressed. Yeah. And they got dressed. They got dressed and they were surrounded by culture. You know, that was exciting to me. I mean, we have culture in Los Angeles. It's just a different, it's a different way of doing it. But there's just, there's more sort of things to unearth and find in Los Angeles. You have to know. Yeah. Which I think is kind of a nice magical secret about it. Can we kind of take it back to. Yes. A memorable meal from your childhood. And who was around the dinner table and what were you eating?
13:10I would say, well, it shifted over the years. I mean, I was partially raised by a woman named Magdalena who made chicken enchiladas, which I think might be one of my favorite things in the world. What goes into a chicken enchilada? Chicken. Yeah. And it's a red sauce. um but hot not i i don't like spicy spicy i can't i'm just a i'm just a wimp i can't do it jesse loves it do you i'm not like a spicy indian i didn't know i'm i'm i'm not as hardcore as other people like i'm not hardcore you've talked about this you wouldn't do hot ones no i wouldn't either i mean i'm not getting invited but like hot ones you say that now but you might be invited But what is Hot Ones?
13:58Please, Mike, explain. Hot Ones is a show where you eat spicy food. They give you like chicken wings or if you're a vegetarian, obviously, it's some sort of faux nugget. But they have all these different hot sauces and they go up incrementally. Why would anyone do that? I agree with you. Why would anyone do that? Here's my fear. I can't stand the heat. And I think it makes me nervous that my throat would close on camera and I'd have a panic attack on camera. So I was like, I don't want to do that. And then I've watched people do it and I've seen them hallucinate. I've seen people hallucinate. From a hot sauce?
14:34Yes. Bloody hell. Why would you do that? But I mean, weirdly, you have kind of done it twice though. Yeah, fake, but just fake. Really, but well done because you kind of have had the experience without having the pain. I love, well, the host is phenomenal and I love him, Sean, but I don't, and I told him I love you, but I'll never do your show. So Maya did it as Beyonce once. Oh, you're kidding me. And then also as Molly, which goes terribly wrong. I actually did it as Beyonce twice. Oh, really? Yeah, what a weirdo. The thing is about eating something hot, my nose runs. Yeah, my nose runs. It's not pretty.
15:07So all I'm doing is blowing my nose all the time. So I definitely wouldn't go on hot ones. People get crazy. But I can see the two of you doing it now. But if you like hot stuff, you can eat it and she can talk. You can't. She's just like an absolute pussy. And I'm like, you know. I'm a total pussy. You're half a pussy. At Nando's, I'm like a medium girl. Oh, no, I'm not. And you're lemon and herb. That's the peri-peri? Yeah. Yeah, I'm lemon and herb and you're medium. Medium, yeah. Would your husband go for hot? Sam could do extra hot, yeah. But I can't. Extra hot? I know. Who needs extra? I want to taste my food.
15:38Hot? That sounds unpleasant. Silly. So, chicken enchiladas. Chicken enchiladas. By Magdalena. By Magdalena. She was our live-in, everything. She helped raise me and, you know, I mean. Is she Mexican? She was from El Salvador. El Salvador. Magdalena Amaya, which is so interesting because my name is Maya. Were you called after Maya Angelou? I think so. Yeah. I think so. I think my parents, that was part of this. Yeah. And who was around the dinner table? Do you have a brother? My brother, my dad, and then eventually my stepmom, which is like a whole other portion of growing up. My stepmother's from Kyoto.
16:19She's Japanese. Wow. And so I grew up eating a lot of home-cooked Japanese food. Amazing. Yeah, which is really amazing. Yeah, and also like really not, before sushi became popular, like it was embarrassing, I think, a little bit to, you know, to eat raw fish. I think people were so like, and people think Japanese food is just sushi. But really the things we were eating at home were more like home cooked things and baked fish and lots of beautiful vegetables. And she's an amazing cook, my stepmother. So what would be your pet lunch when you go to school? Would it have like Japanese influences?
16:55I want to say it was, but it wasn't. No, I think at that point I was sort of like, you know, trying to be a little bit cooler because people didn't understand that it was cool yet. So I probably brought something boring because when my mom was alive, my mom was really into health food. And nobody, there was no Erewhon, there was no Whole Foods, there was nothing. There was this place, Quinn's, and it was a health food store. And we weren't allowed to eat sugar cereal. No soda. So we got puffed rice cereal and then we would drizzle honey on it. My mom was a total health nut. It was, but now I like eating like that.
17:35Do your kids like, do you? No, my kids love junk. Okay. Love it. Like, I don't know, you don't have canes here, do you? What's canes? It's this chicken place. It's like chicken fingers. What do you call them? Tenders? You call them tenders, yeah. Yeah. Or chicken goujon. Goujon. They're gujnani. They're like long bits, not like chicken nuggets. They're long bits. Okay. That sounds better than fingers. Aren't you part of a kind of dynasty of fast food? Isn't it Wendy? Is it Wendy? Yes. How did you know that? We know everything. You really do. So you've got a black card for Wendy's, so you just get all you can eat.
18:13I wish I did. I think you can ask. Growing up, we didn't have Wendy's in Los Angeles. Okay. So it was very exotic to go to Miami and visit my family. But my dad's father owned a chain of Wendy's in southern Florida. So I thought it was really cool that we'd go there and like go to Wendy's. Is Wendy's takeout? Yeah, it's hamburgers. Is it like In-N-Out? In-N-Out's better. In-N-Out. I never got In-N-Out till the last time I was in L.L. Did you like it? Yeah. I'll tell you what I like. I like it a specific way. I like it because I like the raw onions, which are very sweet. Somehow they get sweet onions.
18:53They do. And I like the lettuce and the tomato. So it kind of tasted fresh. I think that's their whole motto. Yeah, I didn't have the chips. How do you take your In-N-Out burger? Thank you for asking. I like it animal style. What do you mean? Animal style is sautéed onions and what they call spread, which is their version of a sauce. I think it's probably the closest thing to like a Thousand Island. perhaps sort of that when you mix ketchup and mayonnaise together and you get that kind of peachy tangy sauce but i didn't like burger sauce but i never saw animal style no secret they have a secret menu they have so many secret menus it's so fun sometimes i get it protein style if i'm feeling protein style well you don't get a bun you get it wrapped in lettuce you get protein animal style yes i do it's very messy but i do know this i did mom everyone knows everyone does I didn't know it.
19:50They just said, which burger do you want? And you look on the thing and you say it. Yeah, I say that. Yeah, no, it's a thing. Oh, bless you. Oh, shut up. Bless you. Now I am. You can also get animal style chips as well, fries. Yeah, you can. You can say chips. It's okay. I think it's better. Yeah. Do you like being in England? Yeah. What's your kind of, do you have a go-to place? Are you going to tell me Dishoom? No. Okay, good. But I just recently discovered Dishoom Breakfast. Oh, it's really good. Phenomenal. It's really good. Oh, really? The naan with the bacon. Oh, really? It's lovely, and you don't have to stand in line.
20:27I usually stay in Covent Garden. Why don't you have to stand in line? There's no line for breakfast, and it's massive in there. Yeah, that's kind of how we discovered it, and someone said, you know they have a really good breakfast, and it's a beautiful menu. We usually stay in Covent Garden, so I know Covent Garden best, and my husband made a movie here, I don't know how many years ago. So we lived here for like a good three-month stint, And I really started to get to know. We were actually staying more close to Soho. So I kind of know. I know. It was like a dream life. I lived at the Ham Yard in an apartment.
21:02It was a dream. And I wasn't even working. Was this pre-kids or with kids? With kids. Did they come over to you? Yeah, all the kids came over. Which film was this? Phantom Thread. Okay. Paul Thomas Anson is your partner. Yes. It's got a massive film out at the moment. Yes. We were just here for it for one battle after another. It's doing quite well. Yeah, it's doing really well. People are calling it the greatest film of the last 30 years. People are crazy for it. That's phenomenal. It is really, really incredible. It's an incredible movie. I have to be honest. You should go see it in the cinema.
21:38I'm definitely going in the cinema. But he shot it in VistaVision, which is a camera that I don't think has been projected for, the film hasn't been projected for 65 years or something crazy. I think the last movie was The Searchers, apparently. I hope I got that right, Paul. But it's being shown in VistaVision here or in 70 millimeter. You should see it in either format because it really is an incredible experience to be in a movie theater and see film that way. It just takes over your entire body. It's tremendous. Do you feel partly responsible for the success because you are his muse, obviously?
22:15Oh, obviously. I mean, it's obvious, right? Yeah, of course. You can smell it. When you were here, do you go to the theater? I have, yeah. But the times that I've been here for a long amount of time, if I'm with the kids, I see kids stuff. Have you been in the theater here? No, I wish. Yeah, you need to. I think when the kids get a little bit older and they don't have a school schedule, I do see that being my future. How old are your kids? My oldest is about to turn 20 and my youngest is 12. You have a 20-year-old? Can you believe that? No, I can't believe it. Right? I can't believe it. That's how I feel.
22:5120, almost 20, almost 16, 14 and 12. Oh, gosh, they're kind of in the midst of like exams. So many teenagers. But it's also the anxiety when they go out now. I don't like it. Yeah, it's hard. And I don't like that we don't live in a city like being in London or being in New York and you know that they're walking or taking the train. Like they're getting cars all the time and I hate it. How many drive in yours? My oldest drives. Yeah. Which is actually very responsible. Do any of them want to go into like... Probably. Do you kind of not want them to? Yeah. because I feel the same but I'm also like but what else are they gonna do like they were raised by artists so of course yeah I I love that too if I'm being honest and it's not it doesn't have anything to do with talking to you guys I've always said this out loud to them I I have a one in four chance of them one of them being a chef I think that would be an amazing thing to have one of my kids be a great chef I'm sure they've all been I like let's hope so let's talk about can you cook I can cook I do I wish I yes I can cook okay if we were coming around to yours for din's what would you be serving us the most recent thing that I've really been enjoying making is like a homemade version of a miso cod but more like a salmon salmon with miso like like almost like a teriyaki but like a sweet yeah miso and are you making the salmon kind of break up like the cod does where it's like that melt in your mouth.
24:20Yeah, so the top is a bit caramel. Yeah, yum. And it gets kind of like crispy and gooey. I'm going to be listening, but I'm also sorting out the food. So keep on telling me. So you're going to serve your miso salmon with what? Okay, so the kids love to look at things on Instagram. My oldest daughter, Pearl, loves to find recipes. And we found this recipe for, I forgot what they're called, But you take a potato and you put a chopstick underneath and you slice it really, really, really thin. Oh, hustle, hustle. Hustle back. Yes. Those are delicious. But you know what I do? I don't have the time to do that.
24:57I really just throw sweet potatoes in the oven. I love a sweet potato maybe more than anything in the world. Do you? Why? I don't know. They're so good. You find them boring? Yeah, a little bit. Sorry. Don't be sorry. Yeah, I don't mind them, but it's not my go-to. No, what's your go-to? A normal potato probably, all right. Well, you can't go wrong with a normal potato ever. Do you have a meal where you all sit around together? We try. Or in the evening, do you try and eat together? We used to when they were little, but now I feel like, I don't know about you, but I feel like having children has become, like, everything they do that's after school feels like it's professional level.
25:38Like when I was a kid, I'd go to dance class, and I had a dance class, and I danced and then I would go home. Now my girls are on a dance team or if they play sports and they travel, you're like, why is everything professional? So no one is ever home at the same time. Is that a fennel salad? It's a pickled fennel and orange salad. That's so exciting. There's this incredible restaurant in New York called Altro Paradiso that has this beautiful fennel salad that has orange in it and I tried to replicate it and I couldn't. Could Magdalena make chicken soup? Is chicken soup part of your life? Yeah I do love chicken soup.
26:19So my grandmother would probably be my dad's side of the family is Jewish and my grandmother his mother was the one who would make things for us but she was much more of an appetizer lady. She loved a cocktail and appetizers so everything that my grandmother made was always a starter. Which was her cocktail? She was a martini lady or a gimlet, sometimes a gimlet. What's in gimlet? It's lime, I think. Yeah. I think it's lime. Do you like a cocktail? I do. Which one? I've always been a tequila girl, but lately my husband's really good at making martinis or Negronis. So I like his martinis are really good.
26:59So what's he put in them that's special um well we okay so he's in love with dukes here the bar here i've never been there you're kidding and i hear it does an amazing dirty martini it's an incredible martini but you're only allowed two they won't serve you more they're really strong yeah like i don't even think the vermouth touches the glass because you're likely to end up in a bar brawl correct or in a or in a ditch yes okay I had two once and which I should not because I don't drink that much and your head was gone I was let's just put it this way the kids said do you remember when there was that earthquake in London it's because I I fell down I did I really did do you like an olive in your I do I used to like vodka with onions yeah and then I went to all of them with onions yeah pickled onions have you ever had a pickled onion in it on a little toothpick they're nice is that a gibson i think that's a gibson yeah but paul makes my husband makes them with um uh a lemon and i'm liking that a lot more now so does he take the just the brine yeah just a little bit yeah just a teeny little bit he knows his vermouths like we were last time we were in london he bought the vermouth the proper vermouth oh which vermouth do you like this guy alessandro at dukes it's like Oh, my God, you know the bartender's name.
28:25Yes. I'm obsessed. Well, he's really something. He's very special. I mean, I think he's well-known now. Oh, okay. He's the magic sauce to Dukes. Fair enough. Look at this. So where did you eat last night? In the hotel room. But what I was going to say is I have a restaurant here that I love, Barbary. Do you ever go to Barbary? No. Oh, Barbary. Jesse knows all the food. Yeah, it's great. They have an incredible salmon there that I would love to be able to make. Oh, my God, that Jerusalem bagel and the spices. Oh, I haven't had that. Oh, it's so good. Well, they make all their own bread. Isn't the Barbary, they're the same people that have Paloma or Paloma.
29:05I've never met. It's in Covent Garden. Oh, yeah. Why aren't we going there for my birthday? It's right across from the porridge shop, 26 Grains. I will tell you why we're not going there for your birthday. I'm taking the kids to three little pigs at the unicorn theater, which is in London bridge And my daughter's got band practice at 2 3 30 You're 50 mean I'm sorry. See what I mean. I feel like everything is Professional level like let's just let's just play some drums You know, but it's like I know their schedules take over our lives and I understand it because Now that I have one in college then you turn around and it's over and you're sort of like wait what what happened hang on you say let's just make play drums is that because you are an over overachiever you can not only play drums you can sing do you have a prince tribute band i do but i don't play drums yes i saw you do that tell your boyfriend oh well that's just cups mate i can't do that's that's coordination really are you kidding me like i can't even do this like you're doing well that's really sweet of you but like you're an overachiever you're funny you're talented you're beautiful you can sing you can sing Christina Aguilera riffs you can be in a Prince band you can play you're very talented thanks Jessie no you're welcome I mean I am a tiger mum um no oh no no I'm definitely not I'm a musical person so yes I don't really think about music as another thing I think it's more part of me that's so nice well because because my mom's music like she is music so growing up i didn't think it wasn't normal does that make sense like i mean i'm sure i was listening to music when she was pregnant with me i was listening to her sing so it just is and and my parents were always making music and people were always playing music in our house and it just seemed normal to me which prince song is your would you sing if we said you've got to sing a prince song like if i had no choice if you had no choice um i like so many so i can it's it's very difficult to choose but i princess our band that my friend gretchen and i princess yeah princess because we're girls yeah um we chose to do a very specific era of prince songs we only do the ones that we grew up listening to which is like 1983 to 1986 7 6 7 do your kids say 6 7 oh no they're too they're too no what's 6 7 it's some stupid tiktok thing what 6 7 well thank you what why is it funny no it's not it's stupid it's so stupid oh thanks but i don't it doesn't when would they say it oh my god i i've corrupted your brain with it they just say it your kids not just say stupid stuff all the time and you're like what does that mean they kind of don't know what tiktok is yet that's just you wait six seven so like when if you go do you want some potatoes they go six seven yeah they think it's hilarious where's it come from though where's it like derive something on tiktok that has no you sound like me and i love you for it because i want to know the context of everything.
32:29I want to know where things come from or why they're saying it. Yeah. But that's not what they're experiencing. They're experiencing people saying something and you said it. So it's popular and therefore it's popular. So they wouldn't be like, it's sweater weather. Yeah. No, they wouldn't do that one. They wouldn't do that. That's such a shame that you can't be cool. Yeah. Well, you are cool. That's the annoying. I told my daughter that the other day, I was like, you know, your mom is cool. And she said, whatever. She was like, yeah, yeah, Oh, Mama, I know. I know, but she doesn't think so. I have, I can get some salad out, but.
32:59This is salad? Okay, fine, great. Thank you. Isn't that, that's a bed? Yeah. Okay, fine. Perfect. What's this lovely sauce? So this is just like a herby mayo, but I actually mixed it with some Greek yogurts. And so to kind of make it less mayo-y and kind of cut through. Okay, thanks. Did you put lemon and dill? I love dill. I got chives and dill. Dill. No garlic. Not garlic anyway. maybe there's some garlic on the parmesan potatoes oh they're parmesan wow they're delicious this is delicious good thank you you know what it's not my recipe it's from an app called Mob app I love Mob me too and everything is ingredient wise really beautiful they make it look really easy those are nice they do love a bit of gotcha chang though don't they like everything's like gotcha chang pasta sausage I know.
33:53I think I did a mob recipe with some gachi jing now that you said it. Somebody's crispy rice, like you take your old rice. Oh, great. For like a breakfast. I love rice in the morning. So good. With like some fried veggies in them. Gorgeous. And you know, apparently if it's been in the fridge, it's lower carb. Yeah. What do you mean? So the carb, like glycemic index or whatever, like the carb of it, it's actually much kind of, even though we love carbs but it kind of is less carby and therefore like you can eat more of it i don't know and it's the same like that's why i freeze some of my sourdough like and then you kind of make sourdough i do when i i haven't had a bad stint actually i'm so impressed with you no you know what i did it and then i got completely obsessed with it to the point where my husband was like please enough and i was like like this it takes over It does take over.
34:44And then like you get it all on your clothes. Your whole kitchen. Yeah. So he was like, can you just calm down? That's so good. It's good, isn't it? It's delicious. Really easy. What did you do? So it's fennel and then orange. And then you boil up. I didn't have enough rice wine vinegar. So I did part rice wine vinegar, what I had, and then apple cider. Sugar, boiling water. You boil it up and then you let it cool. And then you just pour it over. So easy. Oh my God, it's so good. Thank you. But very mild. Oh, great. It's delicious. So whilst we eat and chat, start thinking about your last supper.
35:22Okay. Which is kind of funny because, you know, Molly ends up in Loot Season 3 on a desert island. And bless her, she's having really great food, unbeknownst to her, because, well, I don't want to give it away. I just wanted to know where that was shot. Did you think it was shot on a desert island? Did it look like a desert island? Kind of-ish. Yeah, good. That's good. That's the magic of Hollywood. But it wasn't Studio City. It might as well have been. I think we were in Redondo Beach or something. We were in Sunbeach. Oh, great. We were in California. So, Last Supper, Desert Island. You're going for a very long time.
36:04What are you going to have as your starter main food? Thank you for asking. Okay, let's see. I think there should be a lobster roll at some point. Is it from a particular place? Well, do you ever make them at home? I've never made them. Have you ever cooked a lobster at home? No, I'm too scared. Me too. And I feel like maybe we should both do it and feed back to each other. I used to feel that way. I didn't grow up cooking at all. I was scared to cook. And my first thing I made to make me feel like, okay, I can do this. But I was scared to make was a roast chicken. I just thought I'm going to undercook it.
36:37I'm going to poison everyone in my family. And I was scared. and I think once I got over that fear I felt like I can figure this out although I am really afraid of cooking on mass meat well I don't think I grew up eating a lot because I didn't really eat a lot of meat grandpa I think we ate more chicken and fish my parents said that we were vegetarian but we ate chicken and fish I think that was a 70s thing okay I don't know but I think I'm normal but my husband thinks I'm really weird about I'm always weird I'm gonna like undercook something or poison or things turning bad. Like, oh, throw that away.
37:13Just throw that away. I don't know. I never think of that. I'm not going to serve lobster. I prefer to give myself food poisoning. Yeah, for sure. With lobster. There's a great place in Miami. I might change it. There's a great place in Miami called Joe's Stone Crabs. Okay. And they're open seasonally. So when it's not stone crab season, they're just closed. But growing up, we'd go to Miami to visit my family. And they would take us to Joe's Stone Crabs. My grandfather would slip the maitre d' a 20 and get us a table, a nice table. And it was, they are the most delicious thing in drawn butter, in hot, hot delicious drawn butter.
37:51You get these beautiful stone crab claws. It's very good. But now you can, with Gold Belly, do you have Gold Belly here? No, but I know what Gold Belly is. What's Gold Belly? It's like a food shipping. Russ and Daughters, you can send babkas across the States. That's right. That's exactly how I learned about it was through Russ and Daughters. The babkas. Yeah, so good. You do bring up a good point. Lox and bagels, like a good proper Nova, lox and bagel. With the onion. Yeah. There's an incredible place in Los Angeles called Courage Bagels. Oh, I know about it. Who knew it was so long? Who's got time?
38:29One of my friends who lives in the neighborhood, she just goes and picks it up for me. I can't be bothered. I was watching the studio the other night, and they even referenced Courage Bagels. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to get Courage Bagels. And I'm like, wow. Shit, it's all over, isn't it? Yeah. Damn it. Someone was telling me that the reason why those bagels in particular are so good is it's a Montreal-style bagel, which I think is more sourdough forward. See, it's not a typical bagel. No, it's... I wouldn't... Well, I like... It's a loose... It's delicious. Yeah. No, I didn't... It doesn't feel like a New York bagel or a Manchester one.
39:06Manchester bagels are the best. Are they? They've got to be crispy on the outside, but really chewy. Yeah. I like a New York bagel. And slightly sweet. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What's your favorite bagel flavor? Oh, no, just plain. Nothing else. I like everything. You like everything. No, I like plain. Courage does burnt everything. Oh. It's not really burnt, but it's charred. But you like the oniony burnt, don't you? I do. I know. My kids like plain. But growing up, I liked a raisin bagel. People really think you're weird when you like a raisin bagel. I love it. I love it too. There's this bagel company.
39:43She's not interested. No, there's this bagel company. Basically, they're not proper bagels. They never go off. And my children love it because it's got loads of additives in it. And they do a raisin cinnamon one. And it's perfect. A bit of cream cheese after school. Gorgeous. So we've got a bagel for starter. I think let's do a bagel for starter. We could do the lobster roll with it. Lobster roll with it. And then, but we still have to get the stone crabs in there. Okay. Oh yeah. This is a lot of seafood. A lot of seafood. Yeah. Great. Maya, what was your mom's heritage? Which was, was she Caribbean?
40:17No. African American. Black. She's from Chicago. From Chicago. I don't remember my mother ever cooking. Okay. But she was taking you to health food shops. Oh yeah. But I'm sure she did cook. I mean, my mom died when I was seven. I was very little. Yeah. And I do think she did cook. My dad said she would always be in the kitchen for Thanksgiving and stuff. But I was so little. But what about your grandparents on her side? My grandmother, well, I never really, I don't remember. Okay. I don't remember eating. Actually, that's not true. I remember going to Chicago and I was fascinated by all the food on the table.
40:54And they always ate bread with their meals. And I was always like, oh, is that a thing? People would be like, pass the bread. But I mean like sliced bread, just like pieces of bread. I didn't, I mean, we were eating like puffed rice and tiger milk bars and chicken enchiladas. What a tiger milk bar. Exactly. It's like the closest thing to like a chocolate bar, but it's carob. Oh. My husband's grandma used to only cook with carob. Ugh. Carob's gross. Oh my God, why? It's like a kind of chocolate replacement. It's like a chocolate with it. And there's nothing wrong with chocolate. But why would they want to replace it?
41:35I think they thought it was unhealthy. Or maybe the sugar. The sugar. So, okay. Have you got a sweet tooth much? No. I do have a sweet tooth for very specific things, but I don't like candy. I like baked goods. I like pie more than cake because I love a crust. Well, this is great. I know I've heard that you're making something like that. I made a miso pecan apple tartatane. I love tartatane. Well, did you know that? No, I didn't. I love tartatane so much. Her legs are wriggling. So I was going to do a plain apple one, and then I thought, I saw this recipe with pecan and miso in it, and I thought that might taste nice.
42:17So what does the miso do in a dessert? I think it just salties up the caramel a bit. Nice. I've noticed a lot of, yeah, umami, umami. Umami. I didn't even know what the word meant. It's like a flavor thing. Do you like Marmite? Have you ever tasted Marmite? I hate it, but my husband loves it. I shouldn't say I hate it. I've tried it and I'm not there. I'm totally open to things that people love. How did you eat it? I think it was toast. Okay, can I suggest a new way of doing it? Do you like peanut butter? Yeah. So if you try a thin layer of Marmite, ease yourself in. Crunchy peanut butter. Love it.
42:58Grated sharp cheddar cheese. Oh, that sounds good. Oh, I bet I would like that. Just try it. Trust me. I bet I would like that. My husband loves Marmite and has personalized jars. He loves it. It's just intense. We know what to get him for Christmas. Where's your husband? American. Yeah, but I think his soul is English. You think it is? He loves it here. Yeah. Do you think you need a house here? Yeah, I do. Yeah. So you like a crust. So you like a baked good. But I also like an ice cream, but I don't want to be complicated. I don't like my ice cream with my pie. Oh. I like them to be separate.
43:36Yeah, I like them to be separate. So you eat the pie first or the ice cream? Doesn't matter. I just don't like when people put it on top. I don't know. Unless there's a cobbler. If it's a cobbler, sure. But you're sounding a bit fussy. I know. I'm sorry. I think it's because I don't like ice cream to be runny. It kind of seems, it's a little gross. Does this mean that you don't like cream? No, I love cream. You just don't like the sweet ice cream to be runny. You like it in its solid form. See, I like the ice cream, the cold with the hot. You like the cold with the hot? Yeah. I think my mouth does not like that.
44:08What do you think, Matt, Jessie? I like the combo. I like the bit of runny and the bit of cold. Oh, see, I'm not keen on the runny. I quite like it firm. I'm not keen on the runny. I quite like it firm. that's what she said okay yeah i say that's what she said all day every day like it really because it's so stupid yes and i'd like to misuse it i do it a lot with my friend rachel drach and she because she groans if she hates if she hates a bad joke she groans and i love it and so anytime i get the chance i misuse that's what she said and she goes oh then you can say it again yeah is that as good as the actress said to the bishop well yours is what is it actually said to the Oh, you say it all the time?
44:49All the time. It would be on my Tuesday. With the similar... I love that. I have heard that, but... I'm going to move. Now that I know that it's yours, I like it more. I'm just going to think of you saying it. Are you good? Can you get around? I say it, and I basically... I know I'm being quite cringe. I don't care. It tickles me every time. It's funny because it's stupid. Yeah. I love it. And I kind of feel like Steve Carell in the moment. That's what it's for. Yeah. It's meant to make people cringe. Sorry, it's like we're being like the American waiters that clear your plates before you finish.
45:28No, sorry. Is that very American? So American. It drives us mad. I hate it. Do you go there a lot? Yeah. If I'm touring, so I'm a singer and then I tour. Oh, I know you're a singer. Oh, you're sweet. And I have to say, your mum's like, Rotary Connection and your mum's records is like all that inspires me. You're kidding. For this new record. So I'll send it to you when it's done. And then you'll be like, you need to back off, babe. No. You need to back off. Oh. No, it's completely inspiring. That's so cool to hear. They just did a really beautiful tribute show for my mom last week in LA at the Hollywood Bowl.
46:00Oh, wow. It's been 50 years since her album, Since Perfect Angel came out. Which is amazing. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. 50 years. But it's also so interesting because she's sort of a time capsule, right? because her stuff is such a specific era. But Rotary Connection's stuff is incredible. And did you ever hear of her solo stuff? Who's solo stuff? I mean, before she was, I guess, around the time of Rotary Connection. Yeah, she has a solo record called Come to My Garden. It's really beautiful. Yes, yes. That's with Les Fleurs. Yeah. That's all I reference all the time. Really? It's all, because it's got the right amount of dramatics for me.
46:43Yeah. And that's what I love about Rotary Connection as well, the kind of drama and the kind of musicality and the ensemble of it all. And that's kind of my favourite thing to do. It's that Charles Stepney orchestral style. Oh, so good. Yeah, it's beautiful. But anyway, I just had to say it. I love that. No, it's like, and also like the iconic, like her just having a lion in her photo shoot. Do you have nuts? I remember going to that photo shoot. Really? Well, they had to recreate it for like a commercial or something. And so I remember my brother and I went and we had just gotten ice cream and we watched her sitting there but they got a different lion for the second shoot.
47:20So it wasn't a taxidermy lion because the lion was like that's mental. I know. Whose idea was that? I have no idea. Probably hers. Love that. She's a cool lady. Really cool. So you were just there to go and see kind of see mum at work but mostly see the lion. She was like kids you're coming to work. Totally. Do you remember the lion? I do. Was he friendly? Well, that particular day, he pounced at her. Oh, what? Not the one on the record, but when they recreated it for the promo or whatever, he jumped, but he didn't have any claws, so she was okay.
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50:01So we've got the darkest dessert I've ever seen. But it doesn't taste burnt. No, it doesn't, weirdly. Maybe you can just say it's like a Halloween dessert. It does look like Halloween. Why has it gone black, though? I think it's the pot. I don't think it's black, though. No, it's not the pot. I mean, I'd say it's black, Maya. I don't think it's a little bit brown. I'd say it's charcoal. Yeah, I would love some. All right, charcoal, yeah. Do you think it tastes burnt, darling? No, I don't. It's really strange how that's happened. Why has it gone this colour? Mmm. that's good it's really good it's actually gorgeous i love a baked apple i love it i've been having baked apples though the last are these your apples no they're not that would be too wholesome wouldn't it for today i've done i have done i've exhausted the apples in my garden can i ask whether it was your idea to have the fonds because you're an exec on this right like are you just like i'm gonna have this person this person wouldn't that be a great idea i mean it's always the dream to have the people that you want and when they say yes it's the dream come true i was so in love with the fawns growing up i wanted him to be my husband and is that why you made him naked in your episode but we all did How can he get older?
51:26I know. It's just so unfair. He should stay the same age as we loved him. He is the most delightful human being on the planet. Henry Winkler. Henry Winkler. And the first time I ever worked with him, he brought the best chocolate cake. And he said, I like to bring gifts for people. And my friend Ricardo makes the best chocolate cake. So I hadn't seen him in years. He came to our show and I said, do you know what I think about sometimes? I think about that chocolate cake he brought and how beautiful that was that you did that. So the last day he was shooting, he brought me a chocolate cake. What?
52:04He's the menschiest mensch of all mensches. Oh, I love that. Ay. That's all he would say. Ay. And a thumbs up. Or he'd hit the jukebox and it would start to play. Yeah, I dressed up. He had a girlfriend named Pinky Tuscadero. and she was Pinky Tuscadero. What a name. I know. Well, on the show. Oh, right. Yeah. Fictional character. But they had a demolition derby where they drove cars backwards and smashed into each other. And she had a pink cast because she was pinky. She wore all pink. So I used to wrap my arm with a paper towel and play and ride my big wheel in my driveway and pretend I was the Fonz's wife.
52:48I love him. I mean, that's the joy of like being a grown-up and getting to execute things that you actually care about. You say like, wouldn't it be great if I had one of my favorite human beings in the world on the show? Like, that would be nice. And luckily they say, sometimes they say yes. You're an imitation supremo. Thank you. Who haven't you imitated yet that you think you might like to? Hmm.
53:17Hmm. Do you do English ones? I did Kate Moss for fun the other day. Oh, did you? How did that go? It was really fun. I love her. Where did you do it? Like in the car. Can you give it to us now? It's kind of a, yeah. Well, I did. I met her last time I was here and she's so lovely and she was so kind to me. And I realized the reason why I do her is because when I'm retelling a story, I retell it in the person's voice. so I wasn't really like doing an imitation of her but I think and by the way I don't think that I resemble Kate Moss so I don't think there's going to be an opportunity to be a player but maybe if there's an animated Kate Moss show I don't know hold on do you think you represent do you think you look like Christina Aguilera no I do not I mean that's the beauty of being on SNL when I was on it is that I felt like I could I've always felt like I can be anyone or do anything and I was able to write things and do that.
54:19Like, I don't look like Donatella Versace. That is so good, though. But it was so fun. It was so fun. Okay, so... So back to Kate. Yeah. Are we going to get a Kate? Let's go on a quick one. Oh, shit. It's warming up. I'm warming up my lips. Me, me, me, me, me. Me, me, me. You warm up your lips. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't do any of that stuff. She's not a trumpeter, darling. Well, is that what they do? Yeah, I think they... They do it after they've performed as well, so it's really... I have grass on something. I thought, what the fuck? She was just going. Who did that? The lovely trumpet player.
54:54It was her warming down. And I went, you're all right, baby? She went, oh, God, I'm so sorry. I just have to like. Warming down? Yeah, cool down. So it's like a stretch. It sounded like terrible diarrhea. What? So. It was kind of like, honestly. And I said, you're all right. She went, oh, God, I don't even realize I'm doing it because she has to. I understand warming up, but warming down. Do you warm down when you sing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're so professional. It's like going from, I've learned the hard way though. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I'm going to compare myself to 100-meter sprinter right now.
55:28Great. Wow, Jessie. You know, you run. Who's saying where? You know, they don't just stop, do they? Usain Bolt and Jessie Ware. We don't just stop after the performance. We just take it easy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, back to K. No, it's good to do that. It's good for you. Okay, fine. Back to K. okay god all i remember i was so starstruck and so excited because i've i've loved kate moss since she was on the cover of the face god knows how long ago and she was so young i mean i love her oh god this is so embarrassing i don't do impressions when people ask me to by the way no i'm just letting you know i'm doing it for you because i love you okay that's really we appreciate it i really this is just all love okay um so i so i met her and she she was like and she went like that and she goes, I love you.
56:15That's it. That's really good. That's really good. I love her so much. When we have her on the podcast, we'll try. I hope she can do me. And we'll get her to imitate you. She goes, I love you. Maya, before we let you go, I don't really want to because I'm really enjoying this. I'm really enjoying this too. It's gorgeous. I know it's really nice. It wasn't burnt, was it? No, it was really. It is an odd colour. It was really nice. I couldn't cook it. I mean, you wouldn't want to serve that normally. I toured with a band when I was in college and we opened up for Blur back in the day. Wow. What was the band called?
56:47The Rentals. And it was an American band. This guy, Matt Sharp, it was his band. He played in Weezer. I was like a keyboard player. Oh, she plays keyboard too. There we go. Not drums. I'm not a drummer. You know what my grandma would say? And in her spare time, she's a teapot. You do everything. I just have always wanted to do everything. But I do get frustrated if I'm not really good at something. That's not. I got to chill out. I want to be like an, I want to be like a chef, like a phenomenal. Incredible. But I'm good. I'm good when I try, but I don't try all the time. What's your star sign?
57:23I'm a Leo. I don't, I can't give you anything. I don't know much about Leo. Jessie, why did you ask that? I don't know. Because I know about Virgos and they're usually perfectionists. But you know about Libra and Virgos. I don't think I'm a perfectionist, but I think I have O2D or something. Okay. So, sorry, back to the rentals. Yes. Oh, we toured with Blur for about a month. How was that? It was great. Did Damon behave himself? Damon was so nice. No, I was just saying, the reason why I said that is because they had a chef. We were kids. I mean, I was like 23 years old. And I remember they had a chef and they were so cool.
57:59And it was Graham that was a little bit naughty. Oh, really? He was the one I had the crush on. And the guitar player, they had a chef and she would go, Oh, Damon, I love this. It's really nice. I just remember being like, God, that's great. I've been saying it's really nice forever. Really nice. I don't even remember who the girl was. But yeah, that was the 90s. Before we let you go, would you be able to give us a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere? Other than chicken enchiladas? Let me think. Or scent. Or scent. Well, I'm trying to think of the first thing that came to my mind, and it's a weird one.
58:40I don't know if it's right. Does it have to be homemade? No. When I was a little girl and we went to Disneyland, they would have frozen chocolate-covered banana. I know. They're incredible because they have peanuts on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My daughter's allergic, so I don't get them anymore. But I don't know anywhere else that has that flavor. You taste the cold. Do you know what I mean? Although I got one semi recently and the girl said, be careful because they're really frozen. They must come from some huge freezer. She said, don't eat it right away. And I was like, ha ha. And I took a bite and I was like, did I just break my tooth?
59:15Yeah, I didn't. Thank God. But it felt pretty damn close. But that I got it because I wanted to taste being little. How it was. Yeah. Eating a chocolate covered banana. That's perfect. That's what she said.
59:32as the actress said to the bishop exactly
59:59I love Maya Rudolph I knew I would but I do love her yeah I want to be related to her she kept on saying you know this is so lovely that you've got me in your house and I was like this is what we do this is what we do but you're so sweet she was very appreciative yeah she ate all the food she was just like a perfect guest absolutely gorgeous what a pleasure to have Maya Rudolph in my house and looking for her she was just very soothing influence I feel Yes, I do feel like we've had like a good therapy session. She doesn't feel combative at all. She's so comfortable within who she is. And I think that lack of kind of conflict actually permeated our relationship, darling.
1:00:44Complimented you and I. You think it complemented? I like to think it permeated. I really just loved the chat. Me too. Just, she was fab. should we talk about the black tartar tan which Maya said could be good for Halloween well I'm shocked Jess because when I took it out I thought I can't bloody serve this we're just going to have a have cream and ice cream it's not burnt by the way let me just add it tastes delicious it's not burnt tastes delicious I just don't understand how why it's gone black do you think it was the miso it's why are you blaming the miso because that's the only thing i've ever added and when i cut the caramel was amber when i and then i put the miso in and then it started when i cut the apples through it did look a bit dark don't understand your pan enough darling it was absolutely spotless i scrubbed it before i put it on it what that isn't black from the pan because it would taste funny listen taste was all there i don't know what paul hollywood would say about presentation i might write to him and say paul why did my tart tango black i think please do let's see if you get or anyone else could email us and explain to lenny why her tart tan went black is it the combination of miso and sugar i don't know but the one that i looked at the picture so it's very odd because it doesn't taste burnt but there is an aftertaste no there wasn't No one else has tasted that.
1:02:16Are you sure you're not pregnant? I hope not. Yeah, well, you might be, because aftertastes are a sign. Are they? Thank you to Maya Rudolph for coming on and being absolutely gorgeous. Generous, fabulous. She must have a busy life, though, between her and her husband. And four children. Wow. She's a superwoman. Thank you to everyone that's listened and watched, and we will see you next week. Yeah.
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