Rita Ora

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1:05Hello and welcome to Tobermanners. I'm here in Mum's kitchen. It's a pretty miserable, cold morning. Not as bad as it has been, darling. It's not raining, which is a miracle. That's true. Yeah. We're recording this and it's half term and I have been in Dorset and I've had... Your face is looking very rested and not tired. Something else. No, rested. I had a good facial yesterday. Okay, but you've had good sleep probably. Don't know about that. How do you tell your in-laws, they don't listen to this, it's fine. How do you tell your darling in-laws, who I do love, that I don't want to sleep on a futon anymore?

1:40It's so painful. Buy a mattress? Do you think I could just buy a mattress? Because me and Sam get into that bed and we're like... I've got a spare double mattress upstairs. Okay, fine. But I've eaten well in Dorset. Shout out to the anchor in Seatown in Bridport. It was such a good lunch. I've been going there for years, and then I saw that Thomasine and Miles had gone, like, maybe a couple of times ago. and the food is just unbelievable. That must be the reason that accommodation in Bridport is so expensive that everyone's going there for the food and putting the costs up. Jessie, 400 quid for two nights in July.

2:15It's the place to be, apparently. Crikey, really. It's the Notting Hill on Sea, that's what someone told me. Speaking of Notting Hill, our next guest is from Ladbroke Grove. Oh, yeah. She is a superstar. Yeah. She does everything. Yeah. From fashion design to drinks to hair products to, most importantly, singing. And we've got her on here. Has she got her wellies already? I don't know how long we've got with her because this girl works like a horse. Is that what you say? A dog. Works like a dog, darling. Works like a dog. Yeah. And it's Rita Ora. She's coming on the podcast. She's wanted to come on this for ages.

2:52I remember we spoke to each other years ago and she was like, can I come on? Can I bring my mum? And I was like, yeah, sure. I don't think she's bringing her gorgeous mum. Is she bringing her gorgeous husband? Oh, stop, mum. You need to hold it down when you meet her. Okay. We're recording this two, three days before we're about to both perform at Mighty Hoopla in Brockwell Park on Sunday. So, um... Are you welly ready? Lenny. I'm not wearing wellies. I bloody well am. I've ordered mine from Aster. Oh, what? Because you're going to be going on? Leopard print. Shut up. Little short leopard print wellies.

3:24Oh, my God. Little short one. Yeah. Glossier. What are you wearing on top, Lenny? Black all-in-one and a white jacket. Will you get on stage with me? Maybe. What's on the menu? Well, it's very early in the morning so we could fit in with her. And so it's picky bits, as you would call them. Oh, you know what? Shout out to Jane MacDonald, who has a Radio 2 show now. Called Picky Bits. Called Picky Tea. Picky Tea. She asks everybody what they like for their picky tea. It's brilliant. Okay, so I've got Picky Bits breakfast. I've done a chopped salad with those little lovely baby cucumbers that taste so nice.

3:59I've got some feta, some prosciutto, and I've done some avocado cut up. So I've really cut things up today. That's it, and put them on nice plates. And you're doing jammy eggs. Yes, I am. But I have just done them, and they have not peeled how I like them to peel. And I don't know what it is. Are they impatient? No, I think there's a science. I don't know whether that, because they came straight from the fridge. Okay. I did the popping of the membrane and all that shit. So if you want to write to me at hello at tablemannerspodcast.com, you can let me know. When you were away, I made dippy eggs for your children because I got distracted.

4:35They weren't very dippy. And your son, I thought was... Lost your shit. Yeah. Joffrey. Yeah. Anyway, Rita Ora coming up on Table Manners.

4:51Rita Ora is already gassing yacking with me it's so nice to see you wait do we need to wait for your mum mum's just gonna mum's yeah you're right you're polite you're a good Jessie would just get on with it oh Jessie's just like sorry I actually can join I'm aware I'm aware that you have like a 14 hour day today oh you're so cute which is kind of usual for you I'm alright though to be honest because I'm sort of used to it Did you sleep yesterday? I couldn't sleep. Oh, babes. You know when you know you have so much on, you can't actually rest your head? And is it because you've got the song coming out tomorrow?

5:24Yeah. Which is very good, and we shall talk about this in a minute when mum has joined us. I think mum's starting a brasserie going on over there. We're doing... Do you want me to help you? No, nothing. Are you sure? Yeah. Because I'm pretty good at helping. I'm sure you are. Well, I'd like to think. Is your bedroom tidy? Rita at your mum's house. It's like an organised mess. Okay, got it. You know, it's like she doesn't really go into our room. Oh, you have a cat. This is Prince. Prince? Hi. We have a bingo. You're mad. I know, they're mad. But he's like 79. I don't think he's ever going to die.

6:02Poor Bruno. His name's Bruno. Bruno's such a good name. Hi, Prince. Are you an animal person, I love animals it's because I can't have any but they calm me the fuck down they're so calming can you have like a companion dog that you go on the aeroplanes with no what do they call them? companion, emotional support do you let your cat on the table? don't let him on the table, don't let him on the chairs don't let him anywhere she's taught to him but he's got to need him I mean I don't know, I've never grown up with animals really so then when I gave my cat to my parents because obviously I've done a lot of sort of adopting and then not being able to look after them because it's just our schedule as musicians as you know it's like you're never in one place really so I give my pets away where do you live actually Rita I'm half in New Zealand now which is with the gorgeous yeah I wanted him to do this with me.

7:02No, I'm a huge fan. Are you? I saw him be... It's a little Kathy Bates misery, so just watch. A bit of Kathy Bates, yeah. He did Letters Live. Oh yeah, he did do that. And he was fantastic and made me laugh so much. And I was very jealous when you married him. I just want to put that out there because I think he's so interesting. Sorry. I didn't think I had a chance, but I was jealous that you got him because Because he's so wonderful. Really happy for her. I was happy. Well, there wasn't a lot of people. Wasn't that happy? Do you know, you're not the only person that said that. He's fabulous.

7:37Do you know what's funny? A lot of people have called me being like, I'm very jealous of you and your husband. Well, I think it's just because, like you see, it's kind of what he's like is what he's like. Like he really makes me laugh and he's just so amazing. Do you just laugh all the time? All the time. It's just really nice to be able to just be with someone that, you know, makes you feel like it's not a job and it feels sort of like an existence rather than, not that my past relationships felt like jobs, but they just felt like I was responsible to do things in the relationship. It was almost like, do you want to go and have dinner?

8:13I was like just making an effort. I feel like relationships, you just don't have to think really about them. They should just happen and this one just really happens. It's really nice. It's just natural. Is he coming to Mighty Hoopla? Yes. Oh God, keep it away. Are you coming? Keep him away mum I've got leopard print welly boots for that What for Tyka or for Glyn Not Tyka For the gays or Tyka I'll give him an update And I'll let him know that you're around He's going to love it He loves attention He's a Leo Back to you So growing up Who was around the dinner table And what were you eating Everything I mean, first of all, our delicacy in Albania and how we sort of like function, it's very heavy.

9:06It's like pastries and cheeses and it's definitely more kind of pies and soury, less sweet stuff. So there was always food on the table, even just snacks, whether it's like bowls of nuts or just something is always there to just be eaten, which is amazing. So you were born in Kosovo? I was born in Kosovo and I moved to London in 1990. And we lived in West London our whole lives. I think before we found our real family home, which was in West London, like Labrote Grove, we kind of stayed around El Skor area. And then we found a really amazing house in Labrote Grove and that's sort of where I grew up in West London, yeah.

9:48Were there lots of Kosovans that you were friends with there? Or was it that you kind of moved over as just your family and you didn't know you were starting again? I love first of all before I answer this question I love this show so much do you? I always I think I told you this you've been asking to do it for a while I have and we wanted you can I really just come and hang out with you and your mum because I just love the idea of chatting around the table and eating and relaxing and me and my mum are like exactly the same do you argue with your mum? yeah but just like light argument but you love each other it's never like borderline abusive or aggressive it's passionate you get it out and then it's done and then you eat And then you act like nothing's happened yet.

10:27And then you just eat. And it's like, dinner's ready. And you're like, okay. And then it just kind of... Are you a loud family? We're pretty loud, aren't we? Yes. We're loud. When Jessie brought her husband into the family, he thought we were arguing all the time. And your daughter thinks we argue just when we're debating. Yeah, she puts her hands over it. We're just talking loudly. It's heated. It's a heated debate. Yeah. We're the same. We're just passionate people. I think from the Balkans, Eastern Europeans, we just we just I think communicate differently we're just very sort of like direct so what was what was a memorable dish that your mum or your dad made well we had pita which is like basically a spinach pie it's like seven I actually wanted to bring some but my mum had it for breakfast and it was the one piece left and I was like I can't believe I told you I was doing this and I wanted to bring some food and anyway but like span a copy to it's a bit like baklava but like but with spinach in with spinach and like cheese and goat's cheese so it's like a spinach pie it's just my favorite dish didn't you make a dish on louis through were you making something that's what it was that yeah yes that's a famous sort of dish i personally love like stuffed peppers with um mincemeat and like rice and that's a big one for our family you just stuff the peppers with a lot of mincemeat and if you don't want rice everything I see in the drawer I put on the spices like everything everything every pepper every I mean I can't tell you I don't really have rules I feel like for me the more the merrier yeah I feel like Rita you've never had rules to be fair so it kind of works for that in the kitchen I think for me I just like you know flavors flavor I like a lot of flavor you sounded New Zealand then flavors flavor oh no so how is that are you kind of because I hear that a lot of people are telling me that no but I think apparently it means you're an empathetic person you gotta stop me because I really don't want to have I mean I love them to death but I like my accent no but I can imagine you you're married to you know you you hear that and no it was only a little tinge of it well thank you every time I do it please catch me out please catch me out oh my god really is it bad oh no okay no no i love it i think that i'm just around them all the time now you know it's half of my family and his kids go to school in new zealand and so yeah we're always there where do you live is it auckland auckland we have a place literally on the water it's really nice yeah auckland's beautiful I feel like New Zealand is obviously so far.

13:02But if you make an effort to get there. It's gorgeous. It's a game changer. Have you been Jess? I've been over 10 years ago when I did a festival called Laneway. Yeah. And I was there for a very short time, but I adored it. And I adored the people. I mean, I like Australia too. I like that side of the, yeah, I like it. Me too. You're very popular then. Yeah. I mean, I've done the voice there obviously for a few years. and so I've been there like a big, big chunk out of my year. I haven't done it now. I mean, I didn't do it last year, no. But yeah, it's like a home away from home for me. I really like Australia and then obviously that's where I met my husband and a lot of things just happened.

13:41You met him there? Yes. Where? It was in Sydney. I was doing The Voice and he was filming Thor, Ragnarok and it just, yeah, that's just where we kind of clicked. Did you get set up? I wouldn't say set up but we definitely met through a friend innocently like he was doing a barbecue my husband loves to just cook he loves to me he's a meaty person so he just puts all the meat and it's just meats and salads and things like that he's incredible at steak and things and so he had a barbecue and a friend of ours uh kind of we had in mutual was like hey my friend's having a barbecue do you want to come with me and I was like okay if he's okay with it it's house personal house blah blah we get there and that's where we met and then we became friends and did you fancy him straight away no well i fancied him but i just didn't think it was a thing where he fancied me because i thought i was just too crazy for him too much for him i don't know the film world i think is just different to the music world pop stars and musicians i think are a bit more wild and i thought but then i got to know him and he's just more wild than anyone I've ever met.

14:49I need to know, does he have a gas barbecue or does he do, you know, charcoal? Charcoal. Always. He loves the real smoky feeling and the flavour and the smell. He prefers charcoal, but if there's gas, he'll make it work. Because I thought down under everyone had a gas one because they were barbecuing all the time and therefore they were like, well, just but no, you do the whole effort. If you go down, down under when you go further in New Zealand, I think there's a real difference. Their cultures are actually really different. So, you know, the Maori culture, which is where Taika's from, they actually make like an oven like in the ground.

15:28I don't want to explain it wrong, but it's very much like natural. You know, you put the fire, the coal and everything and you actually it's called a I think it's called a boil up. OK, it's it's delicious. I mean, it's the first time I had it. But, I mean, you throw meat in there, vegetables in there. It's actually just like a huge stew, I think. It's kind of how you explain it. But it's just smoky. Everything's smoky. The vegetables, the meat, everything. And you leave it under the ground for hours and hours and hours and hours. I know it's delicious. It sounds amazing. He's also a little bit Jewish, isn't he?

16:02A little bit. He is. Oh, my God. No, see, this is what I'm talking about. Kathy Bates. Yes, he is. Is it his father or his mother? I love Kathy. his mother his mom's jewish yes oh so he's a he's a june oh you do like him yes yes he's half jewish and half maori yes enough about fucking taika okay sorry i was wondering if he cooked jewish food for her no but um i do understand like being from a mixed culture it's interesting because you know when i moved here from um kosovo you know coming into the uk it was just amazing because it's such a mixing pot so on portobello market which is kind of where i hung out all the time the food stalls are just all over the world you've got german you've got chinese i mean it's amazing just kind of the german stall is so good the bratwurst yes i know the bratwurst yeah so good sausages are to die for aren't they i know that place further up speaking of food are we gonna eat because now i'm starving okay yes i'm not yes fabulous now we've got kind of we we kind of got a A few instructions that are just quite healthy.

17:07Oh, good. Oh, my gosh. High protein. Just to let you all know, I'm not like the crazy, stricty person, but I do like a bit of a healthy... And I appreciate that. So we've got Gravlax. You guys. We have some prosciutto. What is it? I don't know. Perhaps prosciutto. We've got some jammy eggs that were actually a real bugger to peel. So you basically... And then some salad. So who makes the food? Because I've always wanted to ask. Well, if we were having something more exotic, I probably would. but it's breakfast time. Oh my goodness. Can I, this is, I also wanted to see how real this all was and it really is.

17:42You guys really just do, do the thing. Thank you. What do you take? So you've got bits involved but I think it will give you suss. This is a bit like an Albanian breakfast. Is it? A bit picky. Yeah. But do you know what my mum would add to this dish? What? Petrženica which is basically like French toast. but it's not like with the sweetness of it it's just the egginess of it i love an eggy bread i know there's nothing like it is there have you ever tried doing an eggy bread with challah bread you know you know the kind of knotted jewish bread yeah it's very nice and then we have this thing called aivar which is like almost like a spiced spread it's like a red so nice spice yeah it's delicious it's just this is actually what we would do for breakfast well just help yourself salt and pepper to help yourself take what you want and I'm gonna how exciting how exciting how exciting mate um so okay we're gonna talk about the single oh yay we got to listen to it last night did you gorgeous it's really gorgeous oh thank you it's very I mean like we all know that you got married and you're very happy and in love yeah but I really feel like that song celebrates I mean yeah I presume it's about your husband yeah know or you just you're like i did my last album really inspired by my relationship yeah and with this record i wanted to kind of get out of the idea of always being inspired by it yeah it's a bit annoying yeah you know yeah i wanted to try and find a bit of inspiration that sometimes isn't that deep babe i hear you and i can relate for everybody not just maybe your situation.

19:25And I think obviously me as a music fan, I like it being like well this came from that moment where I did this and I did that. But sometimes Yes please. Oil? And some lemon actually. Oh yes, come on. Can I take some of this? Hey, cut this off. Yum. Guys, can I just say the fasting thing is hell on earth. It's really hard. And anyone that's like, oh it's so easy i just think that you never get over the feeling of hunger i just think suck it up i am i mean it's been pretty good like for sleep though has it are you a bad sleeper but babe i think that's potentially because you're like what body what what time zone are you in now i have so much to do i feel like i have so much to do but it's the same with you i mean you're a mom and i'm not even a mom i mean babe you were i i think that i work too hard and then i see your bloody instagram and i said jesus christ that girl doesn't stop but you know what's crazy and respect you that's how you work you've always been like this you've always been a grafter i have yeah i mean i was just having that conversation the other day i just don't know if i how to do it any other way to be honest so the single's coming out so the single it's called asking you shall receive yes which honestly i thought you'd gone born again though yes I literally wanted to feel like it's not that deep I wanted a really happy fun summer anthem that everyone if you think about my music over this sort of decade it's always been for me about uplifting yeah people and having that ability to just like feel good and I think anyone that's been to my shows knows that you know you're there to have a party really and I I love doing that I love making people feel good make people dance and asking Chelsea felt like the right thing at the right time and it was you know written by Ray who I love dearly and that whole story of hers and everything that she's kind of done is so inspiring and it feels so so relevant for us now in the music industry to be able to just like prove that you know you can do things in such different formats nowadays and um it just is like a 360 because I I you know She supported me on tour.

21:42You know, I used to always ask her to come and pop out on my shows, actually, like for Radio One Big Weekend and things when, you know, she was kind of still trying to be an artist at that point. And I was like, you need to come out on stage with me. And she just was really kind of like grateful and there and happy. And so it was like a 360 moment. And so all of those little things really, really connected to me. And yeah, it just happened. And it came and it felt great. It feels really, really happy and organic. And the visuals, I think I'm feeding you guys a bit more of kind of darkness, a bit more not so perfect because it's kind of leading into the new world and the new era.

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23:39How is it going into that entrepreneurial world? I mean, obviously, you've got Prospero tequila. Is it Prospero? I thought it was a bit early to bring that. Not for Jessie. Excuse me, not for Jessie. Do I drink tequila? No. You would. Do you drink alcohol? Does she? Only wine. Only wine. I remember from watching, you do have a good glass of wine. Yes. Gorgeous, yes. So, you know, you've been doing business for a while. you did tequila yeah you're doing hair you are you going to expand it into more beauty because then it would make sense that you do an eyebrow serum an eyelash serum then it goes into cosmetics i've had offers and like aura beauty which is kind of makes sense because aura and everything and it's just i think for me about the right time you know the right partners the right product i don't want to rush anything um i'm just still in such a great headspace of putting out music and keeping that as the focus right now.

24:36I think that's just my priority. I did a lot of TV last year and I wanted to really just come back to where it all started and hone in my roots and put out some songs for the summer. Are you going to do the voice here again? No. But you do the mass singer? I have done it now for a few years, right? Yeah. I think it feels like something I can't stay away from. I just love Davina. I love Jonathan. Yeah. You know, we're family now. Yeah. It looks like you have so much fun. I love Mo. I do it in the States now. The only problem is it's filmed the same time. Oh. Babe. So you're back and forth. So it's like LA, London for a day and then I'm back to LA.

25:14Do you have... How do you manage that? This is the thing. It's hell but I manage it. It's just mindset. Do you like airplane food? I love airplane food. Me too. I love it. I make a whole thing out of it. I love it. Really? I absolutely like airplane food. I'll eat it. So I like... I enjoy it. I mean I take everything. Like you know would you like a glass of champagne? As soon as you get there, and I hate champagne, I'm like, yeah. Would you like nuts? Yeah. And the plane takes off and I'm like, can I get some wine and some crisps? And then they're like, okay, I'm ready to order. Okay, cool, I'll do the starter, the middle.

25:47I mean, I make it a whole thing. I love it. I mean, you must rely on every different thing. Air New Zealand. What's the best catering? Airline-wise? Yeah. I mean, I'm honestly not just saying this, but Air New Zealand have really good food. I've heard they're good. The wine was fabulous. Isn't it? Well, I mean, New Zealand wine is great. I went to the best winery in New Zealand, actually. What's it called? I can't remember. Well, that's unhelpful. I know, I know. But I'll send it. I'll text you it. It's so yummy. I was wasted. But I keep on seeing you hanging out in hobbits' houses. I mean, because I'm a tourist.

26:23I can't go to a place and not go to the famous touristy places. Are you a big Lord of the Rings fan? Now I am. I can see. You keep on frequenting the Hobbit hole. So, no, no, no. I obviously know about the franchise, but I wanted to go see it. Everything in New Zealand is so small because there's not that many of them. It's a very small population. And so Taika's friends actually helped build the set. And so his name's Ron. He was like, can you go and see it? It took two years for 12 days of filming. Isn't that insane? Wow. Come on. But I can imagine that. Two years for 12 days. Yeah. But that's important, isn't it?

27:01It's now lived on and now it's kind of... There you go. There you go. Last supper. Oh, yeah. Starter, main, pud, drink of choice. You know, for me, I'm a big picker. So, like, this is my ideal breakfast. Okay, great. So, for, I would say starters, it'd be, like, salads, a bit of cold things, like meats and cheeses, vegetables, cold, not really cooked vegetables. I like things feeling a bit raw. like i don't know why i just maybe that's just how i grew up um so that would be my like starter yeah and then my dinner would honestly like because i just love food so much it'd probably be just like a really good great juicy burger like an amazing burger like really well cooked juicy meat with like cheese and pickles and like a broyoche bread like a broyoche where are you getting this burger like where is the best burger you've ever eaten does taika cook them he makes good burgers yeah you know i've been on a burger hunt for a really long time can i offer you one up to you go on yeah in australia really in sydney oh no melbourne sorry sorry melbourne gimlet okay in like center bit melbourneans whatever you're called i'm apologizing now but they do a late night burger it's on the menu it's a vibe they do really good dirty martinis oh but the burger was sensational so next time you're filming i don't know whether where you film where do you film in sydney okay that's unhelpful but you know what's melbourne if you're there but you know what's really good too and easy a shake shack they're really good i've never had one you know what they're really easy great are they in london yeah the ones in america i think I've never had a London Shake Shack, but a good Shake Shack is good.

28:54Where do you stand on In-N-Out? I mean, I love In-N-Out. I do think it's a bit overplayed. Yeah. But I don't know if that's just because we're English, but I feel like... What did you eat after the Met? I mean, what didn't I eat? It was everything in sight. Pizza, fries, burgers. If I had a choice in life, I would just eat burgers for the rest of my life. With chips? With chips. I've definitely introduced blue cheese into the burger world which I never used to do before I think blue cheese is gorgeous I think it's nice in the burger, I never used to and a good sweet potato fry rather than a fry is that disappointing?

29:37I don't know I just kind of feel like they promise so much and then they don't deliver I agree a little bit you think you're doing the right thing by choosing the sweet potato fry but you may as well just have the fry I like the courgette fries that they have in yeah you know the courgette fries they have in what's it burger or is it Honest Burger do they? oh Honest is good burgers yeah Honest is good yeah they have courgette you know what also is good the Electric has good burgers on Portabillo I want to know you used to work at Size I did yeah I can so imagine you being a cool trainer girl I still am I was a hot cool trainer girl I was actually talking about it yesterday I've got my Rita But these are my Rita for Primark clogs.

30:21Aren't they nice? Are you doing another collaboration with them? Oh yeah, I'm in bed with them. They're my best friends. I mean, honestly, they look very comfy. I have to just give a quick shout out to Primark because I have to tell you something, not even because I work with them. They were such a massive staple for me growing up. That's my bag. Is this your bag? I designed that bag. I absolutely love it. Can I just hold it? Oh my God. This was not rehearsed, guys. No, did you not know this is Rita Ora Primark? See? This is why I love it. Well, shouldn't you be making it a bit more known that it's your bloody bag, Rita?

30:55Wait, where's my logo? Oh, that's what it was. I didn't want to put my logo on. There's no logo on it. Well, no, it's on the label. Okay. Because I wanted the product to really be its thing. I didn't want people to just buy it because it's Rita Ora. I wanted people to actually like the design of it, which you did. I love it. This was just inspired for easy living. That's the only thing I do now. Because I don't know if it's because I've turned 30, but I just do things to be easy in life now. like easy living that's so funny that you didn't know that really funny anyway this is primal too favorite thing that's great so yeah shout out to them primal yeah and this oh my god baby you're your full primal girl today yeah because can i tell you like it's a staple point like i grew up really going to them for school uniform underwear when my mom had breast cancer they had a really great um breast cancer kind of collection for for women that have had surgery and it was just always a big thing in my life and something that I always depended on it was like a trusting friend you know anyway and then when I got into business with them I think everybody was like oh makes sense because I just wanted to just do things that I felt like I wanted to see when I was kind of going shopping there like high fashion stuff but you can afford it and it's just been doing really well because I think people see the authentic story behind it and it's the truth and that was kind of why I love meshing and blending with them it felt like going home I guess how many bags are you travelling with at the moment Rita?

32:17I don't even want to know what your luggage allowance is when you fly I actually have to like pre-call the airline to just like buy extra luggage. Oh my god you're like J-Lo Is that what she does? Victoria Beckham has about has a full trolley doesn't she? Well that's going to be Rita But what I've been trying to do is like leave things at friends houses so I don't have to travel with a lot of things Oh my god you're that person, you're that gal and they're like fucking Rita's left another another bag I'm that person I've left a suitcase at like three of my friends' houses and they're like this is actually taking up too much space you need to come and get it have you got your own house here still yeah I have my own house here yeah yeah yeah but I'm staying at my mum's because it's under it's under renovation at the moment yeah it's nice staying with your mum it's really cute and my husband's coming for the weekend so it's going to be like my parents and my husband all in the same house have you got a big enough bed for it have you got a single bed in there it's like a small double bed and I don't I've never done that before actually had my husband there with my parents have you done that yeah I mean I've been with Sam since I was 18 so just my mum though but like yeah when the first time you kind of like had that sleepover and the parents were in the house like what are we talking about sex here well I'm him staying the night what are we I can't what are we talking about I'm talking about like what is allowed you know I don't know I know but still it's the thing of like what is why don't you just book a hotel room for the night I don't know if you want to have sex with your husband just book a hotel room Jessica this is what we're discussing the important shit he was talking about the first time you brought Sam and he stayed here yeah I'm sure you were very you were chill but did you guys like have dinner and then it was like okay goodnight babe you're acting like you're like an Amish gal he Jesse Sam virtually lived here yeah oh that's nice but you I think it's going to go okay I hope so I guess I've just never I've never been a married woman like living in the house you know having my partner stay in the house with my parents it just feels like isn't that better than a rando like yeah exactly that would never have been allowed no no no but I do believe in the idea of like still I don't know I guess you're just a kid so you never really like it always is weird I guess or maybe just for me making each other a night time tea at the end of the night I'm like hey well we're just going to go to bed that night then what's it like being a stepmother oh I love it you do yeah it just feels really cool because it's like I'm just the fairy godmother that doesn't actually really have any responsibilities yeah and you yeah well it's the same as being a grandmother to be honest you just give chocolate you give whatever they want I break all the rules yeah break all the rules I buy them anything they want yeah of course it's the best we absolutely we haven't we haven't got your dessert oh sorry or your drink oh yeah well negronis oh nice i always i love negronis um i have have you tried a negroni with tequila in mezcal and apparently it's really delicious that's how i make it because with because i drink tequila so i do a tequila tequila negroni it's really yummy hold on tell me how you make that okay well i don't really make them i just order them but if i was to make one i have done them over christmas but they're not exactly perfect.

35:33The ingredients. It's just kind of, for me, I just do like a bit of Aperol tequila and a tiny bit of mousse. Campari. And campari. And it's delicious. Yeah, it's very strong. It is, but it's strong. And what do you put in? Do you put orange in or? Yeah, I mean, I guess the campari has a bit of that, doesn't it? And is there any water added? Like fizzy water or? No, but I do add a bit of water, like the ice, just because it's a bit strong for me. Oh, wine. No, I don't. Why? Anyone? want any wine no because i went to this thing last weekend and they made a cocktail with elderflower vodka and white wine all mixed up yeah it was really delicious you know i went to a flea market the other day and they were making like day drinks and they were putting rose water with like cbd and like mushroom you must have been in los angeles yeah yeah and like mushroom adaption was it nice is that what they call them?

36:28Did you have one? Adaptogens. Adaptogens. I don't know. Mushroom adaptogens and I had one and it was great. It was like alcohol but still feeling like I was being healthy. How did you feel after? Great. I mean it wasn't like psychedelic mushrooms. It was like you know like ashwagandha and turkeys tail. It's all these like herbs that are supposed to like help your brain. Lion's mane. Have you ever heard of all of this? Yes. That's a mushroom I saw a kombucha with that the other day so they're all supposed to be really good for you and I've been putting them in my coffee actually and they've been great what supplements do you take?

37:05which supplements should I be taking? I take everything everyone that is going to listen to this is probably going to think I'm crazy but I just don't have time to get sick so I'm like vitamin C every single day the liquid ones 2000mg and then I have mushroom extracts in my coffee collagen in my coffee I do hydration in my water a litre of water a day and I do that in the morning before I sort of eat anything and then I have a broth I love broth so I do ginger broth with turmeric and then a side of like I don't know protein or something it's like being on health phone people think I'm insane but it's because it kind of keeps me going but then for dinner I have anything like bread dessert, steak, fries ketchup, I'll do everything So I have like a massive meal for dinner and then I go to sleep and I do that all again.

37:57I mean, I'm with you on all the, I mean, I kind of take the supplements and I'm just hoping they're working. NAD. NAD. Tell me about NAD. Because I was thinking about doing NAD. It's good. I mean, I just, I'm not a scientist from what I read. It's really good for your red blood vessels and oxygen and things like that and keeps you really energized. Okay. Iron, I do that a lot. Turmeric. I'm actually pretty boring you know how people think I'm sort of this like crazy party person I do like to party now but I have to plan it yeah so we all do do we? are we going to party on Sunday evening? yeah but I have a show on Monday in Amsterdam that's I know unfortunate I know so I have to like leave at 9am we have to be the person that's like mouthing at the party so we don't sing otherwise you lose your voice yeah it's so hard to party after a show when you have a show the next day do you?

38:51No, it's work. You never party. Oh, excuse me. My new thing is, sorry.

39:01Pudding. You've got a sweet tooth. Oh, can I also add a cacio e pepe to the dinner? Yeah, absolutely. Where do you get your cacio e pepe? I just went to one place down the road in Goulburn yesterday, actually, for my dinner, I had cacio e pepe with a Negroni. So yeah, that's on the list. the cacio e pepe at Chikari's on Port Vila Road is to die for. And then my pudding or a sticky topping or a panna cotta. I am a sweet tooth. Like I will have anything. A cheesecake, almond croissant. Not cheese. I'd rather have cheese and a big glass of wine. You're seeing it. But I like that to start. Can you still speak Albanian?

39:42Yeah. Say good morning everyone in Albanian. Mirmenjez. It's lovely, isn't it? Nátenemir is goodnight. Nátenemir. Some people don't really say lovely. It's definitely a bit more punchy than other languages, so it's nice that you're calling it lovely. I actually learnt it all at home. My parents only spoke Albanian in the house. Do they still do that? Not as much anymore, but growing up... When Taika comes, they won't be talking Albanian to you when they think he's a bit rude or anything. No, no, no. But he actually learned the language, bless him. He's so good. Not fluently, but he kind of knows the keywords and he tries to talk to them in Albanian and it makes my heart melt.

40:24It's so adorable. I love you. What's I love you in Albanian? Te duashom. Oh, that's so nice. Te duashom. Yeah. Rita, it's been so lovely having you. I don't really want this to end. Me neither. I'm going to ask you, quick, fire round. Favourite place to go, unless this is going to mean that everyone goes there, New Zealand, LA, London your favourite food spots sorry New Zealand, Auckland sorry, Auckland, Los Angeles London. For food? Food Auckland does do good food I mean everything is just fresh, the wine, the meat everything is delicious. Restaurant, which restaurant? Oh my goodness it's hard I mean I don't want to offend them because I know them now you know the owners hold on Where do you go most often?

41:15Near your house? I'm going to change the territory just so I don't know. Fine. Okay, let's stick to London and let's do George's Fish and Chips. Where's that? George's is on the corner of Goulburn and Portobello. To die for. What's your order? I mean sausage and batter and chips. Ops. Sausage. Ops what? The Fish and Chips shop you're getting out of here. I don't think it is Ops actually. Ops at the Fish and Chips shop you're going to get sausage and batter. What condiments? Just ketchup? ketchup, a bit of barbecue and lots of vinegar okay so that's George's LA I'm not fast I think you made the same face, I'm not that fast, are you?

41:50it's not a food hot spot I don't think I mean if anything it's that sushi place that Nobu did before oh um Matsuhisa it's got very good sushi do you like sushi? I like it when I'm kind of trying to not eat unhealthy, you know, a good sashimi I don't get it really Do you like ceviche? Yeah. I love ceviche. Yeah, I do too. That's easy to make. Yeah. My mouth is all the water. I'm thinking about it. That's good. So are we going to choose one in Auckland? Are you too worried? Because you're a new resident there. She's a newbie, yeah. You need to keep everyone happy. I think so, just for now. Have you gotten a new season and passport yet?

42:29I don't. No, no. British. Just British? Yeah. And not Albanian? Of course not. I actually, no. I mean, I haven't left. I've been here since the beginning. Okay, so you're just British. Yeah. Yeah, I've just also had a... This is my home, you know. This is kind of where I've grown up, where I live, and where I kind of want to live. Where did you get married? Actually, we got married in LA. And where did you go? At home. At home. And where did you go on honeymoon? It was really cute. It was not a lot of people. It felt really nice. It's just as kids were there, and we actually found somebody that...

43:03It's called Weddings on the Go. Weddings on the Go. I'm obsessed with the idea of you Googling, quick wedding on the go it's like a takeaway wedding she came to the house and did the job and we were married and I think I was number 17 in her day she was not ready to stay she was just like hurry up you're done, bye, see you later can you open the gate? I was like okay thanks and what was the reception? we didn't have one, it was just all at home and then that was it and then we just went out and had drinks I love that and the honeymoon we did have one we went straight back to work really have you had one?

43:44no thinking about it no she needs a honeymoon I think I need a honeymoon you fucking need a bloody year you need a sabbatical I love you I will eventually last question a nostalgic taste or smell that can transport you back somewhere oh pancakes but not the American thick pancakes almost like the crepe like pancakes those are the pancakes my mum made growing up and what did you have on them no it was actually a mixed mix of sweet and savory so i would have lemon and sugar or jam um and then i would have like that red ivar sort of sauce with a side of like white cheese um and so it'd be more of like a salty dish but they were thin they weren't like thick pancakes like crepe type pancakes and she'd make them from scratch there was like no salute i mean she'd do it all the batter and everything and it's the best the best maybe you should get your mum to make that for dins tonight you know everyone says their mum is their favorite cook is she your favorite but she really is my favorite do you is your mum your favorite not really jesse's very critical i love your cooking we all do really the nation have i started something no I can cook she can cook she can whip things up as well I'll never forget and my sister's about to have a baby and I was like let mum at the kitchen so I remember there was this one night I think it was the first baby that I had and I was so tired and mum just made this like delicious slow cooked lamb kind of pearl barley I think it was an Ottolenghi thing but I just remember it feeling so nourishing and like she'd made it and it was like the smells of her cooking and me like trying to work out how to like look after a baby and i very much appreciated it was it a pressure cooker that you use no no do you put it just i have got a pressure cooker have you got i'm new to the pressure life and i've got an air fryer i just got one as well last year how are you finding this i loved it i think it's so good for the step kids like i literally put everything in the air and they love it i mean again because i just give them whatever they want if they want fish fingers or whatever i'm like yeah and so then i just put everything in the air fryer do you like karaoke yeah i love it but jesse hates it she says that singers don't generally like it i mean i wouldn't go and sing seriously on that because what would be your selection but then i can't not sing seriously when you like have the mic and then i'm like i'm all right fine i'll just sing it So which song would you sing?

46:22Well Dancing Queen. I'm actually going to sing that on Sunday. That's going to go down. But I'm doing like a slow, lovely kind of version of it. Oh that sounds great. Abba is just always like my fave. Have you seen the Abba thing? No I haven't actually had that. I do that with time. Oh my god. I know. It's so good. It's so amazing. Apparently it's amazing. It's amazing. You think they're there. No way. You do. You actually can't believe they're not there. You'll love it. I love that. Did you guys go together? We all went didn't we? It was fantastic. That was really good. You love it. I love you guys.

46:53Riti, you're fabulous. But you really made my day because I love this show and I always laugh when I watch you guys. Thank you, babe. The quick little arguments you have in between the interviews really make me laugh. We've been really well behaved today. I wouldn't say arguments. I would say debates. I think we've been really quiet. We've really held back. Maybe I've just over-talked. No, you haven't. No, no, no, no. I'll see you guys on Sunday. Yeah, we'll see you again. Also, if you don't have any space to be out on her stage, I'll come and go as we can. You always have a spot online. Thank you.

47:24Oh, my God. Thanks, Frisa. I love you guys. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Yay!

47:43Mum, didn't I tell you you'd love Eutora? Absolutely adorable And she even offered up her husband to you on Sunday at Hoopla That is the best thing about the whole podcast today That I'm going to get me Tim I love Rita She is incredibly generous and sweet And she is very open Very warm She was really enjoying herself Good I think the picky bits worked Picky bits was perfect She was thrilled Well done mum She loves you I love her Maybe you'll be modelling in the next Rita Ora Primark campaign I don't know What are the Rita Ora fans called? Rita Bots I think I'm a Rita bot now You're a Rita bot Yeah Thank you so much, Rita Ora.

48:28Her new single, Asking You Shall Receive, is out now. This is coming out after, but maybe you enjoyed her show. At Hoopla, and she's just a busy bee doing everything. I just don't know how it would be to move around so much. You wouldn't know where you're waking up. Do you know what I mean? It's like when we got back from L.A., Jessie, I woke up one day and I thought I was in Benny's house in Malibu and went the wrong way to the loo from my bedroom. and can you imagine what she's like? She wouldn't know where she is. I'm trying to have bumps in Arnica and the pastures on her head, Mum. I know, actually.

49:01I know. She's never in one place for very long, is she? Maybe we all need to start having lion's mane and turmeric broths. I can see you doing that right up your street, Mum. Anyway, we will see you next week but thank you so much, Rita. The new single, Asking Your Shower Receive, is out now and let us know if you saw us at Hoopla at the weekend. Thanks.

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