Second Helpings - Callum Turner

0:00At Boar's Head, we've been going back to school for over 115 years. And this year, every school lunch is reason to celebrate with the flavors your kids love and the exceptional quality you expect. Helping you make school lunch fresh, easy, and delicious. Ring the bell. The deli is open. Boar's Head. Committed to craft since 1905.

0:35Lennie Ware: hello and welcome to table manners second helpings 2026 and we're going to start off this series with an episode from february 2020 the turn of the covid lockdown yeah and it was callum turner who came over i've got to say something now callum i think i had covid at the time and I hope you weren't ill later. Yeah. Because I was later tested and I had antibodies and I was quite ill that week but I was supposed to be a trooper and carried on and I never in my wildest dreams thought it was COVID. We were very excited to have Kalimova because I'd kind of fallen in love with his character in The Capture.

1:14Lennie Ware: He was playing a character called Sean Emery and my husband said I hadn't made that much effort since my wedding day. I know and it was It was P-D-L. What's that? Pre-Dua Lipa. Pre-Dua Lipa. I think I accidentally said at the end of the episode, thank you, Callum Turner, for coming all over me. What a gorgeous man. He's a lovely man. He's also very handsome. But he was coming on to talk about the film adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma, which was directed by Autumn DeWild. I think I watched that during the long lockdown months where we watched telly midday. I made Bella's sherry cod with tomato and butter beans which was from our cookbook which I think was about to come out and we served it with dusty knuckle sourdough and you did a bread and butter panettone because you had leftover otolenghi panettone from Christmas yeah, delicious Callum Turner coming up on Second Healthings

2:23Lennie Ware: Callum Turner, thanks so much for being here. It's nice to be here. Where have you come from? From home. Where's home? I live in Kennington. Oh, wow! I know, it's perfect. Whereabouts? Oh, just down... Just down the road. Yeah, I used to work at the Belgrave when it was a hospital. What's the Belgrave? Opposite the Oval, there's a kind of flats, and it was a children's hospital. Oh, yeah, it's quite a spooky-looking building. Yeah, it was gorgeous inside. It's flats now? Yeah, I know, it's sad. Are you, would you call Chelsea South London? Would you call yourself a West London? I definitely would say more South London than West London.

2:59South West, it's South West, it's literally in the middle.

3:02Lennie Ware: It's not over the river. Yeah, but still it's South. But it's on the river. You wouldn't say you're a North Londoner though, would you? No, no. Absolutely not. No, not even a West Londoner. I mean, I'll say South West, yeah. Fine, got it. So where do you go to eat after the match? Do you remember the blue elephant? No It was a Thai restaurant It was a Thai restaurant Was it Fulham? Yeah, Fulham Broadway And you walked over a bridge Yeah, yeah, yeah And you walked over a bridge And they had water running through Next to where the Fulham Broadway is now Yeah Yeah, I remember that place Yeah Yeah, I don't think I ever went in there Do you go to football matches?

3:35I got a season ticket, yeah It's my fourth year Fourth year How did you get it? This is a big contention You're looking at me Because you're running out of the band It's fine It's fine I like Frightman Bard You do? I think he's a nice boy That's not what you said before No, I just don't know how good he is, but he's a nice bloke. He's probably better than Ollie. We all love him. Yeah. He's a legend, isn't he? He's a hero, he's a legend, he's an icon.

3:57Lennie Ware: I prefer him to John Terry. Anyway, how's things post the capture? Yeah, things are good. We were huge fans. It was bloody good, apart from I had an issue with the ending. Go on. I don't know why you said you'd done it. Because... I just don't know why you're... Yes, yes. Please do. Because the guy, Napier, said that he would alter those images of him with his daughter to make him look like a paedophile. Okay. And then if those images are out, then that would be it. There's no coming back from that. That was so mean. You liked it, yeah? I loved it. Yeah, it was great. Are you going to do another one?

4:42I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah. Honestly, I have no idea. Would you like to? I would love to. I love that character, but where would they take my character? Because they could recruit you because you're so clever. Yeah, but he's not that clever. You are clever. It's more that he's like so determined. He's a very intelligent man. You got away. Jack Bauer, 24. Yeah, you were kind of, you never got captured till you got captured. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you only got captured. Jack Bauer never gets captured. He died.

5:12Lennie Ware: He died. Wow. You've got like three seasons. He never got captured. And you only got captured because you gave yourself up because of your daughter. Because you loved her. I love how rarptive people go in. I loved her. My aunt actually one day had like 16 theories. She was a little bit tipsy. 16 theories and one of them was right. And I was trying to keep poker faced. Oh, what? But she was literally just knocking one out after the other. Or this, or this, or this. And then one of them she got. And I was like, yeah, not that, I don't think. The only thing is I don't think you'd have fancied that lawyer.

5:46She wasn't your type at all. I thought you might have got it on with Holiday Grange or whatever her name was. That's just obvious. But they're both fighting the good fight, aren't they? But she's joined up now. They're both joined up, yeah, who knows? I think if you joined up, that would be epic. Is that what you want to say? Yeah. We know where the information is.

6:06Lennie Ware: It's on the mantelpiece. Yeah. Well, it is, yeah. It's in the chip, yeah. Yeah. I know you're going to be an Emma. Yeah. Are you a posh bloke in that? Very posh, yeah. Very, very posh. Who are you in it? Who's that? It's a pretty cat that always comes in when we do a podcast and drives us mad. It's a very sweet cat. Yeah. It's all right. It's a tension seeker. Yeah, who are you in... I play Frank Churchill in Emma, who's sort of the... Do you know the book? Yes. Yeah. I mean, yes. You're not Mr. Elton. I'm not Mr. Elton, no. Who's Mr. Elton? Oh, it's Johnny Kim. Josh O 'Connor. Who I love. Yeah, yeah, he's amazing.

6:44He's so good. Will you put in a good word for us? I will, yeah, yeah. You want him on here? Yeah, I'd love it. I'll get him on there, I'll get him on it.

6:49Lennie Ware: He's looking great as Prince Charles. He's great in Emma too. Is he? He's really funny, yeah. Oh, is he in the Durrells? He's in the Durrells. I loved him in that. He's the guy that we look like each other. We're very similar looking. Yeah, yeah. We always say that if someone's looking for Josh, I'm like, no, it's Callum. so do you wear britches in the Emma yes we actually had all of the clothes were made for us Alex Byrne is a costume designer brilliant brilliant artist and she designed all the costumes for us everything the hats you know the lot and the director is it Autumn Autumn de Wild yeah and how is it working Autumn's amazing Autumn de Wild Autumn de Wild is like She's like the premier rock photographer for Behind the Scenes.

7:40She did books with the white stripes and Beck. Wow. Do you know who Beck is? Yes. That famous pink album cover, she shot that. She's really cool. That must have been a long time ago, though. I think it was, yeah, maybe 2000.

7:52Lennie Ware: Is this her first feature film? This is her first feature, yeah. That's a feature film. She's a boss, man. She's taken a very English story and put her punk DNA into it. which comes out in the casting. I can't wait to see it. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, it's like the left-field version of Emma. It's not the English, and she's really lent into the comedy and the casting, you know, mostly people that are doing independent films or horror movies playing in this 18th century world. Is Mia Goth Emma? No, Mia Goth plays Harriet. Anya Taylor-Joy is... That's the one that she's trying to sort of fix up, matchmaking, isn't it?

8:33Exactly, yeah. Who plays Emma, then? Anya Taylor-Joy plays Emma. I don't know her. She was in this movie called The Witch, which was this brilliant movie, come out 2017, the horror movie. I think I saw the trailer. Yeah, it's incredible. You should watch it. It's pretty scary. And she's done, I think she's done like 20 movies in four years or something. She's really brilliant. Yeah, she's brilliant. She's brilliant.

8:59Lennie Ware: Because you're such a movie buff, what's your favourite film that you've seen recently? they? Well, this week I've seen Uncut Gems twice. Oh, I'm dying to see it. Oh, that's the Adam Sandler one, right? Yeah. Go to Prince Charles Cinema in Leicester Square. It's on 35mm and that's how they shot it. So that's how it's meant to be seen. Oh, fantastic. Oh, nice. And then twice. It's mad. It's like a mad movie. Brilliant. The Safdie brothers are like, you know. And then I saw 1917. What did you think? I loved it. Yeah, everyone's loved it i loved it yeah um i almost cried about five times uh and i said that to my brother and sister and they said what was the bit that you cried the most at and i was like the fact i wasn't in it so brilliant good for you yeah fantastic movie

9:53Lennie Ware: so i don't know if you know that much about this podcast a little bit it's like about food and it's about food memories and so you grew up in chelsea with your mum yeah um single mum single mum yeah she sounds amazing i read the evening standard article and she just like you painted a really amazing picture of her in that she's very cool she's um she's she's a wonderful woman i actually rang her before this because you sent me that text message of like food that you used to eat and said, Mum, what stuff did you cook for me? And she then sent me about 89 voice notes of things. She's a voice noter?

10:33She's a voice noter. I'm so am I, though. I'm a voice noter, yeah. I would have voice noted you, but I didn't know you well enough.

10:38Lennie Ware: I called you and you didn't pick up. Yeah, I'm very bad at picking up my phone. You could have voice noted me. Jesse, so are you. You never have your phone on. No, I don't. It's true. Why do you never have the phone on? I just don't listen to voicemails, even. You never listen to voicemails. I need to put a voicemail on and be like, I don't listen to these. Please don't leave a message. Just text me. I don't know. Just hang up now. Yeah. So what did your mum say? She said, well, she reminded me, because the main memory I have is fish in a bag. We used to do fish in a bag all the time. With the, like, parsley sauce?

11:08Yeah, she had the parsley and I had the butter.

11:10Lennie Ware: Butter sauce. The butter sauce with, like, boiled potatoes or whatever and some broccoli. But my mum did, which was really funny. She used to make roast dinners all the time. Like on the weekday? On a Wednesday. Yeah, I like roast dinners. Yeah, because she was like, this is from her today. She's like, it's a good hearty meal, you get to eat it, and then you can go. It's quite easy to cook as well. Yeah, exactly, you get your meat and your potatoes and then your veg. So I used to have, and gravy, lots of gravy. Was she a good cook? Yeah, she's a good cook, I love her roasts. Are you an only child?

11:41I am an only child, well, I grew up as an only child, but I have a half-brother and half-sister who grew up in Australia. And actually my brother is a big foodie. He loves...

11:51Lennie Ware: Well in Australia the food is incredible. Yeah, it is. Have you not been? I went when I was 19. Oh, okay. So you weren't... I can't remember. It's some of the best food. Like they're always ahead of everybody else with how they like doing things. They're really brilliant. You should go there and just eat a lot. Just for the food. So good. The wine and the food is so good. But so... Can you cook? Yeah. Sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a couple of dishes. Okay. Go on, what are they? Well, I like to make a little salad. Yeah. I throw bits in, you know, tomatoes, cucumber, all that jazz. And then I make, I love to roast Brussels sprouts, which is my favourite thing in the world.

12:32The best? How do you roast them? Lots of olive oil, salt, and then grate some parmesan, if I've got any parmesan at the end.

12:39Lennie Ware: Someone's been in LA for a while. You've got to have the roast, just roast Brussels sprouts in LA. Roasted Brussels sprouts, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think they're the most delicious thing in all that. Can I suggest something? So we have a cookbook coming up, and we've got roasted Brussels sprouts in there, and I put grapes in there, soy sauce, it doesn't matter, like red, red, but soy sauce, balsamic, roast it up, sweet, salty, bit of hazelnut on top. You might prefer just savoury, darling. Maybe. No, but that sounds delicious. Yeah. Is that a sweet? Does it become sweet? Well, no, it's like tangy.

13:13Lennie Ware: It's lovely. It's delicious. Okay. So, okay, so you do your Brussels sprouts. So I do my Brussels sprouts and then I have a group of friends and we call it therapy dinner. So we all go to different, each other's houses, like kind of like a come dine with me. And I cook the same thing and I just get fish and then whack it in the oven. So I roast the fish and roast the sprouts and then make the salad and that's it. And what do you do for food? I make the same thing every time. What do you do for food? uh well we either we we go like kid version pudding so we get like fingers or uh i bought some m &m hazelnut new chocolate for dessert we're going for the names have done hazelnut hazelnut chocolate so it's like a chocolate bar i can show you the picture i know my phone's over there let me get my phone what have you been putting it to the group saying this is this is what i'm coming with next time yeah exactly yeah bring that bring that to dinner for pudding or you know what we like is a caterpillar cake a collin yeah but like the joke is that like my friends she's an incredible cook like beyond incredible no she's not she's a fashion designer but like even the plates are exquisite it's like restaurant quality so then we counter that with a Colin I'm gonna start that show start the thing so what you've just done Emma when's that coming out oh it comes out February 14th so what are you working on now I'm about to start doing in Fantastic Beasts again.

14:37Lennie Ware: And that's the Harry Potter offshoot? Yes. Is that a mean way of saying it? No. No, it is, isn't it? It's a spin-off, not offshoot. It's a separate series, but in the same world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I've never seen any of the Harry Potter. I kind of have saved them for my kids. Amazing. Well, that's going to be a... But, yeah. Maybe the kids, no. Fantastic Beasts. Are they actual books as well? No, no, no. They're all written by J.K. Rowling as separate films. Okay, got it.

15:11Lennie Ware: So you used to work at Dover Street Market. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That must have been fun being in Soho and just kind of... Yeah, being 19 in London in like the most exclusive shopping world. Oh my God. Yeah, with like loads of cool people and not really having to do your job. It was amazing. Did you get an allowance for clothes? Yeah, they did. They gave, I can't remember how much, like$7.50 a season or whatever. Sick. Well, I mean, the job was literally like, they were so nice to me there, all the people. It was kind of a dream and I made lots of good friends and, you know, it was kind, that's kind of my university, Dover Street Market.

15:48Lennie Ware: So what was like eating out in Soho? Were you just like, did you used to go out after work and was there like a place that you'd frequent? No, I had no money. I was going home and I lived in Dalston. Oh, did you? Whereabouts? Yeah, I lived in De Beauvoir on Hertford Road. That's why you had no money, babe. That's why I had no money, because my rent was 750. But I picked the furthest place from Chelsea that was still close enough to London, central London for me to get into, just to escape it for a little bit. And then, yeah, I mean, I literally would work or watch films or replays for like two years.

16:21That's all I did. Yeah.

16:23Lennie Ware: When was this? I moved out when I was 19, so. 10 years ago. Yeah, then, yeah, for two years. And then I was there for, I was in one house for about nine months with three boys and they were so messy it was mad and I had to get out of there so I moved four doors down moved in with three girls and they were like sort of no no no not at all it was like moving into a home were you messy Jessie? I'm messy yeah messy Jessie. Messy Jessie but now dude you've got the excuse of the kids so yep yeah yeah you know what like it's a testing time for all of us and oh because you're here she's living here so how long have you been here since september at the same time yeah and we work together now it's like can you imagine working with your mom uh no sorry she's not she sounds quite cool but i don't think she'd want to work with me either what does she do yeah neither did i she just she just retrained to become a therapist.

17:23Amazing. Oh, really? Maybe I'll need her after this. Maybe. Before she... I just need to sleep. I'll leave the number on the table.

17:41Lennie Ware: Callum, I'm just helping. I'm serving you. Is that all right? Yeah, cool. Thank you so much. It's... I feel rude just sitting there. No, what are you talking about? Please. It's my Englishness, you know? There you go. Thank you. And then just use the bread to dip. Yeah. It looks amazing. Oh, you're sweet. It smells incredible. Now, where are some of your favourite places to eat in London? Food-wise, I like La Familia. Oh, I do. In Chelsea. That's where we used to go for Hannah's birthday. Oh, really? And it's like... That's a special place. It's so good. It's like being in Italy. What is Cardi Monogue's favourite restaurant?

18:18Cardi Monogue's favourite restaurant.

18:19Lennie Ware: Well, it was like in the 90s, Mum, I think. It's still fabulous. It's amazing in there. It's like being in Italy. Yeah. And it's in Chelsea. I don't think I've ever been on a date there, so... You should do it, Calum. Yeah. What do you eat when you're there? Well, whatever. Fish, spaghetti, you know, normal. Whatever's on the menu. Would you say you're a foodie? I wouldn't say that I'm a foodie, no. That's okay. I mean, I like food, obviously, but I'm not like, oh, that's like artisan bread. No, fair enough. So what have you eaten today? I had porridge for breakfast and I had a Nando's. Love Nando's.

19:04Cheeky Nando's at lunch. Yeah.

19:06Lennie Ware: What do you order at Nando's? I got the... If you're a pescetarian. Yeah, I got the bean burger. Did you? Is it any good? Yeah, it's nice. What, you don't like that? so is this is this that was a big reaction it's the pescatarianism a new thing for this year or how long have you been a pescatarian or flexitarian as you call it i've been a flexitarian for like three years now okay and why because i watched a couple documentaries and i just saw like you know just to stop eating bad meat if i go to a nice restaurant and the meat is nice or uh um you know high quality then i'll eat it so it's only work or if it's game or if it's game You know, like I've got a friend in Bath and she goes to the market and there's a guy who works on a farm or on an estate and he brings like pheasant to the market or he brings veal or whatever and you know that that's...

20:00So you want to know where your food's coming from? Well... Which are the documentaries? I watched Cowspiracy and I watched What the Health. Yeah. Is that what you've watched, Jesse? You've seen him, yeah? My girlfriend at the time was really pushing the agenda on me and then when I'll find

20:16Lennie Ware: watch those that was it i want to know more about your mum because i kind of got a whiff of her with that article but she was a nightclub promoter before she was a therapist so like how did that work out with like young callum your mum and all these amazing characters coming in yeah basically so she did she did the clubs like the lime knight and kathy de parry in the 80s with people like Steve Strange and Boy George and the new romantic movement. What was the Barracuda Club? Barracuda Club. Steve Strange was there, wasn't he? Oh, he did that as well, yeah. Yeah, with Boy George. Not Roy George.

20:53Boy George. Roy George. I'd love to meet Roy George. Roy George.

21:00Lennie Ware: Have you met Boy George? Yeah, yeah. I know him as well, yeah. He's a very lovely man, yeah. And his brother too, Kevin. Beautiful people. Do you want to know what Boy George said to me? Go on. I was doing my V Magazine cover shoot, right? Quite a big deal. Yeah, huge. You know, I'm in New York. When is this? This was like, what, like 2015 or 14, 15. And somebody goes, excuse me, Boy George would love to meet you. And I was like, oh my God, this is fucking cool. So I go over to Boy George, who's also getting the makeup done, his makeup done. I go, hi. And he turns around and he goes, oh, you're not Jess Glenn.

21:39I went, no, I'm not.

21:41Lennie Ware: He went, oh. And looked so disappointed. Wow. And I just was like, yeah, I'm so sorry I'm not Jess Glynn. And he so wanted to tell Jess Glynn that he was a massive fan. He didn't know who the fuck I was. Where was Jess Glynn? She was not meant to be seen. He just heard that Jess-see something was there. You should have been like, not now, George. Honestly, it was so funny. He looked so disappointed to see me. And he just, he didn't even hide it. He went, oh, you're not Jess Glynn. That is so funny. It was amazing. Does that sound like Boy George? It sounds like something that he would do, yeah.

22:12Lennie Ware: I know you would have, but thank God you weren't. Yeah, because he would have knocked him up. Actually, you know, he used to be a boxer, so I wouldn't start off fighting with Boy George. That's what they did when they were younger. Him and his brother? He's got lots of brothers, yeah. Got a big family. So I want to know, what was it like? How old were you when your mum was being a promoter? Well, she did it before... You were born? Yeah, before I was born and then did it, as I was growing up, it manifested in lots of ways, like lots of fabulous people coming to the house and living with us. Steve Strange lived with us for a few years.

22:46Did he? Yeah, he's a guy called Sasha Lillick. Did he wear a makeup? He did, yeah, lots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to get everywhere. Amazing man. Uncle Steve, you know, known him all my life.

23:01Sasha Lilick is a stylist who does lots of stuff now, lived with us for a few years. Lots of flamboyant people coming through. And you were going to be in Chelsea then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So where we lived, it was kind of like, I lived on a Guinness Trust estate in the middle of Chelsea, which is kind of like, I don't know, a contradiction because - Where is it? World's End? It's next to World's End, so there's Guinness Trust, and then there's World's End, and then and there's Creemont, so there's three estates in a row. But it's interesting growing up in that space and then living in one of the richest parts of the world because my primary school was in the middle of the Boltons, you know, which is where - Oh, I know this school.

23:38Bowsfield? Yeah, that's where I was. It's a really good school. Yeah, it was a good school, yeah. So, you know, lots of contradictions and then having like this sort of club family, club royalty family living in the house was not a norm on the estate.

23:58Lennie Ware: So La Familia is one of your like spots that was kind of like neighbourhood spots. Did you ever go to that place, the Stockport? What was it called? Yeah, I love the Stockport. Love the Stockport. And Picasso. No. Cafe Bar. So La Familia has been there for a long time, but actually the first time I walked in there was like three years ago because I've always wanted to go and I decided, you know, it can't be that expensive. Quite posh. Yeah. And it was quite expensive. It was expensive. And I walked straight out. I've probably been there about four or five times. But Mona Lisa, you know Mona Lisa?

24:35Lennie Ware: No. The Chelsea Bun. Oh, the Chelsea Bun. The Chelsea Bun, which is not there anymore, actually. The stop box is not there anymore, is it? It's not, no. That was really good. I actually had a funny interaction with them. I had an American friend, and I was telling her about custard for days and days and days, and I walked into a bookshop, and I said to the guy behind the counter... Do they not know what custard is? No, they don't have custard in America. No. They have it in Canada, but it's not a... That's why Harry's had to go to Canada. It's not... Yeah, he couldn't go to America. But a custard.

25:06Anyway, I walked in, it was kind of like a Notting Hill-esque bookshop, you know, like the Reese Evans character. And I was like, mate, where's the best place to get custard around here? I want to try custard. And it sparked off this huge debate between three or four people that lasted ten minutes. And the guys at the end were like, you know what, the stockpot.

25:22Lennie Ware: It was bloody... I remember the custard. Was it a spotty dish? He used to get an apple crumble. Apple crumble. It was lumpy custard, but you liked that. It was all right. So where did you take her for custard? No, I didn't. I failed on my mission to try custard. It didn't happen. Sounds very romantic. I like this story. No, it's not romantic at all. It's not romantic at all. It's just shared experiences. Welcome to England. This is what we do here. Well, you could do the old, what's it? Birds, what's it? Birdseye, well that's it. No, not birdseye, what's it called? What's the one that you use, Mum?

26:00Lennie Ware: Birds. Birds. Yeah. Not birdseye, it's birds. Birdseye is the fish fingers. Yes, birdseye is the fish fingers. So, last supper. Last supper. I guess it's... Starter, main, pud, drink.

26:18I think roast dinner. That's your main. Which one? Chicken, lamb or beef? I'd go lamb. Pescatarian boy. I'd go flexitarian. This is where I really started getting flexible. This is where you flex yourself, yeah. I'd go lamb. Lamb, lamb. I love lamb. Yeah, some succulent, juicy lamb chops. What sides? Oh, lamb chops. Lamb chops, yeah. Yeah, I love lamb chops. Love lamb chops. My favourite. They're good in Italian restaurants as well. So, okay, so that's your main. But with the potatoes, with like, if it's my last supper, I'd have like cheese, cauliflower cheese.

26:52Lennie Ware: Oh, that's exactly what you made last night. She made it last night, darling. On its own? No, she made lamb with cauliflower cheese. Oh, yeah, Sunday last night. You know, she added to her cauliflower cheese last night, blue cheese, and you thought it would be too much, but it was salty. Bit of a kick. It kicked. Bit of a kick. It was really good. I'll have to tell my aunt. My aunt makes, like, the supreme roast dinner. Yeah, I'm not the supreme. And it would be her, it would be my Auntie Tracy's roast dinner. Okay. Can everyone come? Yeah, of course. All right, cool, the whole family will be there.

27:21So you're having a starter? You know what, actually I went to Dover Street Market the other day, I went to the Rose Bakery at the top. Oh, okay. And they had this mushroom soup, it was delicious. Delicious. So I'm going to throw that on there. Okay. And for pudding, it's got to be sticky toffee.

27:40Lennie Ware: Do you know boys love custard? Boys love custard, yeah. Or clutter cream? No, with custard. Boys love sticky toffee pudding. We should do it again.

27:57At Boar's Head, we've been going back to school for over 115 years. And this year, every school lunch is reason to celebrate with the flavors your kids love and the exceptional quality you expect. Helping you make school lunch fresh, easy, and delicious. Ring the bell. The deli is open.

28:24Boreshead committed to craft since 1905.

28:32Do you want some Panettone bread and butter pudding? Yeah, definitely. Is it there? It's there. It's ready. How much do you want, darling? I don't want to have a well-known. That looks amazing.

28:42Lennie Ware: And then put loads of cream on it. Thank you very much. Guilty pleasure food. Guilty pleasure food. You know what I love? What? I don't want my taste buds to come across as too basic, but yum yummers. Nothing wrong with the yum yum. Stormzy loves yum yums. Well, Mum, the thing is, Stormzy likes yum yums, but it was more about what he says about yum yums. You don't need to know. He talks about fingering a girl before getting yum yum. Oh, my God, I'm going to faint. It's like Gwyneth Paltrow. Fucking hell. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I wasn't expecting that. You never think about yum yums in the same way.

29:18I like yum yums for the taste.

29:19Lennie Ware: Good. Yum yums are great. Yeah. Greg's is great. Have you tried their vegan sausage ral? No. Where have you been? I've been about, but I haven't tried it. And their vegan steak pie. They do good yum yums too, but best yum yums at M &S though. Yeah they are. 69p, 79p, you've got two small ones. And they've got that icing, that wet, that kind of thin icing. That's all you need, that's all you need. Don't need the four pack. Don't need the four pack of yum yums. I feel like that's much of a guilty pleasure. I don't think he eats yum. What, are yum yums? Yeah. So do you train every day? No. I've just been on holiday for three weeks.

29:50Did you eat a lot? Actually, we didn't eat that much. We would eat, like, just three meals a day and no snacks because we were eating this fresh fish and fruit. But you've got your tools, you've got more area to fill up. In Brazil, we were eating, I think it's macaqueca. Me and my brother had that every single day for lunch and pretty much dinner.

30:15Lennie Ware: So you're a creature of habit? Yeah. I lived in Rome for six weeks. I went to the same restaurant probably 50 times. And what did you order that? It was downstairs from my building. And there was a lady there called Jessica who worked there. She was a Dutch lady. And you fancied her, so that's why you were eating there. No, not at all. She was my Rome best friend. And I had the same table every single time. And she left it free for me because she knew I was coming. And what did you eat? I would get the octopus with potatoes, and then I would have, like, spaghetti. So I would mix it up, like pesto.

30:47So I'd have gresher, which is like a Roman carbonara.

30:51Lennie Ware: Oh, what's different about that? It's the type of meat. So I think it's a different part of the pork. Oh, that sounds good. It's delicious. It's only rum, too. Have we had his dessert? Yeah, sticky toffee. Sticky toffee, yeah. So your guilty pleasure is yum-yums. I'm disappointed. Yum-yums. Do you want to know what Michelle Keegan said? Go on. Chow mein with mayonnaise. That's kind of wild. That's a wild combination that I was not expecting. Neither you wouldn't. Yeah, I don't really like it, darling. Me either. I love mayonnaise though. What's your drink of... Delicious. Is it, darling? Good.

31:33What's your drink of choice? Well, if I'm going out, I'll get a Guinness. Really?

31:39Lennie Ware: That's so not a going out... I know, but it's the nice drunk because your feet are still on the ground because it's heavy enough but you're still like doing that. And Callum thanks so much for coming in. Thank you for having me. I'm glad you don't have too far to go. Yeah me too. We give everyone a tea towel. So when you're getting your Brussels sprouts out the oven next time. It's going to be a private place. Oh it's really cool. Yeah. I like it. Dover Street should have this.

32:22Lennie Ware: Callum Turner's so lovely. He continues to be lovely when I bump into him in the street or at Glastonbury. He's a lovely bloke. And maybe the next Bond, who knows? And we are sorry, Callum, if you got sick after that. I promise you, we didn't know. We had two episodes that week. Can we talk about the fact that Lenny is an absolute trooper? Because I got up out of bed. I didn't know what had hit me. I felt really ill. We didn't know what COVID was. You were living with me at the time. We'll see you next week for more Second Helpings.

33:15At Boar's Head, we've been going back to school for over 115 years. And this year, every school lunch is reason to celebrate with the flavors your kids love and the exceptional quality you expect. Helping you make school lunch fresh, easy, and delicious. Ring the bell. The deli is open. Orzette. Committed to craft since 1905.