Second Helpings - Emilia Clarke

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2:26Hello and welcome to Table Manners. We are doing our second helpings and this week we have the gorgeous, brilliant Amelia Clark who was one of our first, she was a really early guest. I remember it being a big deal when we got Amelia Clark. It came out in December 2019. She was coming on to talk about her Christmas film, Last Christmas, which I still watch. A proper Christmas film. Yeah, we were ending series eight with Amelia Clarke. And we were so excited to have the Mother of Dragons on. And it was thanks to Greg James that we had her on. Why? Because he told me that she was a fan of the podcast.

3:02So I slid into her DMs and we made it happen. Mum, you made chicken soup with matzo balls at her request despite being gluten intolerant. Oh, okay. And we did monkfish skewers and rosemary stalks. We also did salt and vinegar potatoes. And I made a dairy-free chocolate cake, which no doubt was probably quite crap because I'm still rubbish at cakes. This is Emilia Clarke coming up on Second Helpings.

3:31The stunning Emilia Clarke has just walked through the door with, like, a huge amount of gifts. I can't wait for you guys to... They're fun. Like, one of the... They're Christmas themed. Wow Is it a bauble? Yeah but it's filled with Christmas chocolates So you've got one of them each That's amazing Because I figured like babies might be well into being like Oh my god No these are amazing I just thought they were so cool They're like biscuits Kind of like a bauble And jammy dodgers But they're not They're all chocolate So they're chocolate in the shape of like That's amazing You're like jammy dodger It's so funny It's like you knew my daughter said just before you came i want chocolate amazing thanks so much no worries i loved it it was like my most joyous thing i was trying to work out i was like what am i gonna get you guys got me christmas things when do you have time to go shopping oh please that's very close to me so and they were like you're literally called me a regular today i was like oh no are you a chocolate yeah like it's it's like a need someone once told me that if you crave chocolate like dark chocolate which is what i like genuinely trained myself to like because when i was do you know i mean you're like yeah white chocolate all day obviously but then yeah yeah milky bar um but then when i started getting into dark chocolate someone told me that when you crave it it's your craving oxygen oh i heard it was magnesium or something there's like some genuine because you know you get those cravings especially for dark where you're like it's like a pregnancy I thought it was when you had when you had your period oh the iron iron yeah there's all that good stuff in it so yeah so I get well into that and kind of try and enjoy it so you've like brought over chocolates you're a chocoholic are you sick to death of Christmas yet so we shot it last year last year at Christmas so we shot it all before Christmas then we took two weeks off to have our own Christmases and then carried on um and it was kind of it worked out sort of well because we were filming it at Christmas and we were filming it in London where it's all Christmassy anyway and you're just like, amazing.

5:36All it did is make all of our own Christmases the most exhausting things you've ever, like, because we're all like, this isn't the movie. Where are the fairy lights? On crack. Like, what's it? Okay, yeah, okay, perfect. He's gorgeous. Yes. Yeah, he's cute. like a donist. Now, was he in Crazy Rich Asians? Yeah, Crazy Rich Asians. Good to see her? Yes. Genuinely, yes. He's so good looking. Yeah, no, because there are some where you're like, But no, he was just brilliant. Did you get lost in the moment for a second? Yeah, especially when it's a really romantic scene. But the thing about me and Hen was that like, I don't know, we were so like friends and professional that it like, there was nothing, like, and I mean this with such sincerity, there was nothing, it was just like a lovely kiss.

6:27Like there wasn't, do you know what I mean? You're like, it was like a movie. Okay, fine. Yeah, and it wasn't meant to be. So I think all of that kind of played into it. Oh my God, I need to see the fucking film now. I think you'll really like it. A rom-com is my favourite type of film, especially a Christmas rom-com. Well, and it's a very, very, very British rom-com in that it's like more than a rom-com. And it's got George Michael music. And it's got George Michael music all over the shop. And then there's his unreleased one that he made right before he died and it's rolling on the credits. Oh, wow.

7:01So it's kind of amazing that Paul in all the screenings was like, stay for the credits. And I'm like, stop telling everyone what to do. Like if they want to stay, they can just like, I was here. I heard you on Craig, Craig David on Greg, sorry, Greg James's breakfast show. Like you were doing a couple of stints on it, weren't you? Or not. Maybe you were just doing one, but he told me that you liked the podcast. That's the reason. That's the reason you're here. So thanks Greg. Thanks Greg. But yeah, you were doing like, I don't know what this game is that he does, but you were like honestly you hate the Pogues song oh Fairytale of Christmas it's really bad Fairytale of New York is it yeah it's just one of those songs that just makes me sad every time of all the Christmas songs you've got so many amazing options and then there's and then with that one I just I just you're like come on we can like sing a proper Christmas but I feel like maybe you should go to one of the Pogues Brixton Academy Christmas shows just to really solidify whether you love it or hate it very good that is so drunk and so Irish and kind of kind of brilliant but like like I love an Irish like we shot in Belfast for 10 years I love an Irish sing song in the pub get it down your neck all that stuff I love it I absolutely love it but there's just so I don't know so you lived in Belfast when you were doing Game of Thrones yeah I mean we were there for like for however long we had to be there and on the last couple of seasons we were there for basically like 10 months did you understand the accent oh how about you yeah Yeah.

8:29My dad was from there. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I thought... It's well trendy. Everyone said modern and patron. Yeah. And film. Do they still say that? Film. Film. Film. Yeah. Yeah, but people don't do that. So I've got like a lot of connections to you, which I feel like I need to spell out. Okay. Does the name... This will be slightly embarrassing if it doesn't. Does the captain... Do you know the captain? The captain. Okay, Dave Morgan. Right. One of the cameramen. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So the captain is my best friend. My brother will be like, yes, the captain. Well, your brother worked on Game of Thrones as well.

9:03He's in the camera department. Yeah, was he on the last series? He was on the last series. And we lived together when we were filming. To get on well. We do. We do. I mean, we hadn't lived together for a very long time because we both went to boarding school, like in that amount of time when by the time we started living together in Belfast. And so there were a few like, Ben, seriously, I need you to like screw that jar back on that jam and I need you to pop it in the cupboard, like do it for, and then like he had to wash up only his stuff and not proper fracture. But it was the most magic thing in the world coming back home and having been there.

9:39Like every once in a while, I'd be in the bath and the door would be closed and we'd just be having, he'd get in after a night out or whatever and then we'd be having a chat and be like, how was your day? It was just lovely. We'd get on really well. Is he older or younger? He's older. He's like, I think they would, you'd call us Irish twins, isn't that what they? So he's like a year and a half. yeah or not not quite two under two yeah two under two yeah exactly so that's been a night so we're really we're really close so um growing up yes it was you and me and ben and then and your parents and like who was cooking my dad and my mom passed away my dad's passed away yeah so food is like my when i think about my childhood and i think about my family it's just food it's really like that was how my dad expressed love obviously loved us yeah of course that in every other way but um my mum does three things and she does them very well come on she hasn't done the chocolate mousse in a very long time but she makes a mean chocolate mousse because she just would inhale like uh if you gave her a slab of dairy milk the size of the table it'd be probably gone in about four bites like she's she's a chocoholic um and then she would do lamb chops and salad in a bag kind of woman it she just lamb chops and salad in the bag love it my mum loves a good lamb chop so she would do she would do that and we would do that and salad in a bag and then to the point where it was so infamous that like my dad was the only one who did the cooking in the village that we now live in where we're all really really close um when i was no no no as in our village where we live is like a proper community and um when i was in hospital our neighbors our amazing neighbors came to the hospital with lamb chops and salad in a bag oh chops do you know what I mean because it was just like our yeah our families kind of but my dad would cook as kids you know the smell of like dough he would make us homemade pizzas with like wholemeal dough and then he'd make us chicken curries and he'd make us but all of it now I know was like with a superior palate do you know what i mean like none of it was bland so when i was a kid i didn't know how to say spicy so we used to call it minty so my dad would be like it's a bit minty but so i'd it would be me with a with a vat of yogurt with pretty much anything he'd cook yeah because he loved chili my brother loved chili yeah so we um spag his spag bowls always had like kidneys in and like do you know i'm like he really went there some people put chicken livers in chicken livers i Which I'd always try and navigate around.

12:15Yeah. Which I just. Oh, wow. Like proper food. Proper food foodie. But then he'd also make a club sandwich that was like the greatest thing you'd ever eaten. Like he just would make the most simple food. Superior. What did he put in his club? Was it everything that's in a club sandwich? Everything. But like he'd get like the best bread. And then it'd be toasted to perfection. And then he'd have the best mayonnaise. And then he'd have like your iceberg lettuce and your smoky thick cut bacon. and then he'd marinate that chicken in like white wine and garlic no he wouldn't like grill it like that and flat iron it himself like pound it out he's there butchering in the kitchen all the time pound it out and then have the next layer of bread and then there'd be your fresh tomatoes and you like it's just a all of the stuff's just regular but you just like pimped it basically all of the food that we would eat what what did he do as a job he was a sound designer for the theater but he started life as a well he started life as an art student and then as a roadie in a band and like was just tried every drug under the planet and like was a massive hippie and then found his way into sound and then was a resident at the national for ages for like 14 years did musicals toured around the world like yeah did your mum work yeah yeah my mum's my mum is I'm gonna put it really basically because I still don't quite get it um a business woman and always has been so she was my dad was this like freewheeling free loving creative hippie and my mum was so if you imagine like when they met and then my mum was like the 70s glamazon with her red revlon nails and her red lips and her like perm so where was he getting all his influences from or so he literally food is such a big part like you could try i could tell you all my parents stories from like when they first tried garlic when they first like what their best meal was that kind of thing.

14:03Full of nostalgia then. Yeah. Okay. Like my dad was always into food as a kid. He was from Wolverhampton. Wolverhampton. And, and his mum was like, you know, she cooked, but it was never full of like massive amounts of flavour, but he got lovely food. And then for his, I can't remember what birthday it must've been, but he was young. I think he was like under 10. They're like, what do you want to do for your birthday? And he was like, I want to go to this restaurant. They're like, right then we'll go to this restaurant. And that's where he tried really, I think that's the first time we went, he tried garlic.

14:31And then they were, well off enough to go to to go on holidays and so he went to spain or to france and that was when he tried different spices different flavors and just blew his mind and from then on no matter how poor he was no matter how little money he had because he went through most of his life with like not two pennies to put together he would get his tin of sardines and his thing of rice and do whatever he could to like make it into like oh i love him yeah he sounds amazing and he'd try food from all over the world he put he passed away yeah three years ago yeah yeah sorry but i'd be speaking about him and his food love with with just the same amount of vigor as i would if he was still here are you a good cook i can be a good cook like if you give me an otolenghi cookbook yeah i'll go mad yeah like me and my brother did all the christmas cooking last christmas what was okay what was on the menu so we did a turkey which hilariously was the only thing that didn't work and then we did we had like 24 people around and we did um i think we did like 15 different sides oh wow okay so we just essentially got otolenghi and um jelena's cookbook oh yeah yeah did you do a roasted sprout yes we did a roasted sprout we did that kale and we did i can't remember what else we did but we did loads and loads and people just basically ignored the turkey which was half what what oh it was half cooked with the oven it was a new oven and we just didn't quite and we sort of weren't paying attention to it but it was this whopping great big turkey and then like and because also my brother's vegetarian so we sort of needed to maybe that's why he didn't oh yeah sabotage yeah exactly sabotage the turkey what are you doing this christmas i'm taking my mom to india my mom and my brother to india for two weeks yeah because it's my mom's 70th in january fantastic so she didn't want to party so i was like oh i'm gonna surprise her with that that's amazing yeah and you are part yeah yeah yeah so my granny was half indian and so we've as a family i went when i was 16 and scattered her ashes after she died in like background around northern india and did that my mom my dad had been to india my mom used to work in india my brother's never been but we've never been as a family so i wanted to plan this like pilgrimage sort of thing um and then we've got really really good friends who were there so on actual christmas day i think we're spending it with like 40 people like in an indian house with and I'm just so excited it's going to be really good

17:00cheers happy Christmas happy Christmas what a pleasure to meet you honestly I mean I've been watching you on screen for how many years how many years was it seven eight well so it was eight seasons but ten years I mean it's been a while god that champagne I love champagne me too that is good makes me happy that's exactly it I could be in any pub anywhere and be like don't care what kind it is babe just bring it over it gives you bad breath though does it I feel like it does I don't think so I always feel maybe it's Prosecco that gives bad breath I don't know but I always feel like champagne breath is not the one oh I think it's alright maybe like the better it is the less bad breath you get less halitosis new advertising for fancy champagne doesn't give you bad breath I think this tastes lovely So on your request, you asked for chicken soup.

17:53I did. Because I hear about it so much. And I love chicken soup. And that is the one my dad would make chicken stock all the time, which now we call bone broth. Yeah. But like back before, it was just chicken stock. You don't have to have the matzo ball if you don't want it. But you can have the matzo ball. Do you know what I mean? I've never actually had a matzo ball. Oh, yeah. Is it going to make you have to go to the loo if you have the matzo ball? Not today. Fine. perfect are you are you actually gluten intolerant it's one of those things right gluten this is the fine print they don't tell you when you go through all of your varying things of like oh this is good for you i'm gonna do exactly what a paper tells me to do and i'm not gonna do it um you become less you become when you when you take out gluten for a significant amount of time popping it back in pain the dairy thing is real yeah but for real if you because i don't i'm sure that's why you it and actually felt much better for it and yeah no you do and you absolutely do so maybe it's just that before i took out the gluten i wasn't aware of the fact that i was bloated all the time how much gluten did you eat not that much as much as the next person yeah but i mean but what do you do about bread now because i love bread so much i you're not fussed about gluten-free gluten-free bread is shit yes it's it's bad if i'm gonna eat bread i'm gonna eat bread go out with a bang hells yeah if i'm gonna do it there is no point in like i found there was one gluten free bread that i found in america that basically just tasted like sugar and i loved it because it was squidgy and it tastes like banana bread jesse yeah she's a super foodie yeah super food yeah i really am i'm kind of a bit anxious now no no no no no no your chicken soup don't worry i haven't had a cooked i haven't had a home-cooked meal and i cannot tell you how long have you been so much Yeah, I've not been able to go home because my mum, since my dad died, has like made her mission, God love her, to be good at cooking.

19:50So she's always like, no, no, no, no, no, I've got to cook for you, got to cook for you. And she gets really like, I must be really good at cooking. And it's genuinely got so much better. But I just don't cook for myself. And I don't know whether it's like I'm grieving my dad or whatever it is. No, I mean, I don't eat really, I eat red meat really, really, really rarely because I'm trying to do my bit. But that's so sad that now it feels slightly bittersweet for you to cook. yeah there's something in it but like if i'm cooking for other people let me at it like i love it i absolutely love it and i get i challenge my dad in the kitchen which is just like a little bit testy i'm just a little bit i get a little bit stressed but i love the preparation of it and all so you've always eaten really well throughout your life yeah my dad really screwed us in that sense because i never craved if my mom listens to this she'll be like yes you did we never had rubbish food yeah we didn't like when I was a kid kid we'd have like a packet of crisps after swimming or whatever and we used to have those um oh my god the golden syrup bars and the Jamaican ginger oh yeah like after do you know what I mean like after swimming and all that but um but overall we would always I was I was 24 before I realized that people didn't always sit down to eat a meal together like I literally it was just so much like breathing what did you what did you eat at boarding school oh god boarding school food was it terrible yeah but kind of good terrible oh right okay it was it was it like kind of custard and just custard please okay yeah and did they do the chocolate they did the chocolate yeah just custard uh no yeah you just get like school dinners but like they were they were to my palate now there's something so comforting about like salty bland thin cut beef with like a bit of slightly lumpy gravy with your boiled potatoes and your boiled carrots there's something about it where you're like do you know what that's just do you like plain food then i genuinely don't eat plain food oh at all do you bring your own yeah yeah i can't trust it mainly because in recent years if i'm on a plane for the amount of time that you'd need to eat a meal on it i'm um someone taught me once that if you want to conquer jet lag don't eat on the flight which sometimes really obviously really hard so like you'd have some nuts or you'd have like whatever and i'm gonna sound like i've got a freaking eating disorder which i don't but it's if you try to not eat a big meal at least on the plane your jet lag is helped when you land because your stomach that's where we're going wrong we're having the wine i have everything but when i'm on the plane i'm going to work yeah no tell me about it every time i sit down i'm like yes i will start with the champagne and then i'm just on water thank you very much yeah i guess you need to be like on it as soon as soon as i land sometimes i go straight into a thing and if i'm there with like a with like a big bloated full belly and like feeling a little bit more i mean do you get recognized wherever you go yeah is it boring it's just sometimes it can be frustrating for the people that you're with and you're like let's say like this happens to be so many times if i'm walking with like a girlfriend let's say we're having a proper gossip we're having a catch-up we're like having like a heart-to-heart of some kind we're getting into it um and then someone comes up and is like he's gonna have a photo and you're sort of in the middle of like someone's crying or we're getting into it or and then you're like oh I shouldn't be saying things so loud and then the friend that you're with feels really awkward and then it turns into a weird thing and then you're like sorry to you and sorry to you but I don't quite know how to navigate what this is so recently since and I think it is actually probably since after my dad died um because i went through three years of genuinely having seven days off like in three solid years because i was doing i did game of thrones season seven which lasted like 11 months when i had about seven days and went into star wars which then extended so we were only meant to shoot six months and then it turned into a year Star Wars come out yeah that was been been and gone oh yeah yeah the next ones I did Star Wars um the Han Solo story okay I haven't seen it um it's very good Donald Glover was but yes yeah and we hit we got him right before yeah what before everything they're like mega mega mega rise of Donald but um but yeah so in that time I was like just so I can't begin to describe how tired I was because then went into that and then went into Star Wars and then went straight into Game of Thrones and we did that for a year and then we finished and then like I was just knackered and that was at a time when people were stopping me quite a lot so I was genuinely walking through an airport like and I just suddenly started having what I can only believe to be a panic attack brought on by like complete exhaustion and was just on your own to my yes on my own and I was on the phone to my mum because I called her and I was like I feel like I can't breathe I feel like I don't know what's going on she was like take a sit down you're all good you're all good and then i'm there and then the tears are coming out and i'm crying and i'm crying and i'm crying down to try and not be like i'm sitting on this seat in the gate and this guy's like can i get a selfie can i get a selfie and i was like i can't breathe i'm really sorry just having a minute can i just and then like so it was after a few moments like that where you're just like i don't i don't know how to do this so i started to say i'm not gonna take a photo but i will sign something because then as soon as you sign something you have to have an interaction with that person as opposed to someone just going or he gives a selfie and then goodbye it turns into right what's your name who are making it out to and then you have a little chat and then then you're actually having like a truthful human to human thing as opposed to it being this other thing which probably isn't nice for them and it probably isn't nice for you but I wonder because like you've got such a reputation of being like a lovely person too but it's true like you're like the hot one but also the loveliest person and so but that thing of people feeling like they can approach you because you are you you appear approachable and therefore you being able to just be like guys you know what I'm I'm not having a great day do you mind I feel that shit there's just a few moments because when you're in like a big public space you'll kind of you've got to get from a to b and normally you're kind of in a bit of a and when you're I mean I don't know if this is bad to say but when you're like a little girl and you sort of get physically grabbed your gut instinct is like danger yeah of course and then it's just someone going can I have a selfie but it's intrusive though isn't it but then because I like people and I like interacting with human beings and that's the thing I miss the most about anonymity is like I just like going into shops and like having a chat like I just like chatting obviously and so when that goes it you feel a bit so then when someone's asking me for a selfie I want to be able to provide for them what it is that they're after and I feel like I signed up for it like I knew what was going on so I've just been trying to navigate how I can do it without feeling like my soul is completely empty because they don't really want to talk to you I know that sounds really sad they just want to be seen with you yeah and then you're like I'm nice to meet you my name is Amelia so when you do like a signing thing then you get to actually look into their eyes and have like a do you not have like a proper human thing because it's a really weird thing but when did it start getting really weird it started to get to like fever pitch around season 7 when I was going through this thing of being so tired all the time I got woken up on a plane I was like I was fast asleep against the window had like drool I knew I had drool because you know when you wake up and you're like and I was being woken up by someone shaking me awake and was like can I get a selfie and I was like babe I'm really sorry but I've only got like an hour to sleep and I kind of need it like okay and so there's this like you can't say fuck off but fuck off that's rude I think you should say that why did they not protect you you weren't in economy Amelia good god on that particular one no it was an easy jet I think no that was I can't remember because when you're flying to Belfast and you just want to get home because I would do on the last we would wrap on like hopefully we would wrap at like seven on a Friday night yeah and I would exactly and I would literally there was an AD on the show it was like I've never seen anyone wrap quicker than you like because I'm like what the hair and makeup girls want to go home they don't want to wait around for me so I don't want to go home so you mean home London home London yeah so I would whip that wig off as quickly as we could do it so that everyone could go for a drink I mean sometimes I'm literally like ripping skin off as I'm trying to get in the car to get on the plane and then I would land in London at like 11 on a Friday night and then I'd go out with my mates to the pub and stay up and like see them and then have Saturday and then Sunday morning I'd get back on a plane and go to Belfast.

28:36oh jesus christ so those kind of flights where you're i was just trying so hard to like still have a life of some kind yeah when you're shooting those kind of things but which is why living with your brother is kind of amazing yeah and i but i guess yeah it's that juggling act and then you just kind of feel like you're not really doing anything yeah exactly exactly apologetic to your friends maybe like a partner it's like no that's it and then your hours sometimes we'd be doing like from like waking up from yeah from getting in the car to getting back home um to the flat you you sometimes would have done like a 14 hour day and when you're doing six day weeks and would you and you're i'm complaining about a very cushy job no no no no i understand it

29:23mom it's a 10 out of 10 oh my god that is you don't think it needs some soul listeners you need to appreciate I've heard this being eaten before because I'm obsessively listening to a podcast and always going what does it taste like what does it taste like it tastes like heaven that is absolutely amazing at this time of year I absolutely will with a bit of my oh my god all day all day long you need to now get the just a matzib this is genuinely food for your soul this is like oh my god you'd be ill just to eat this all the time i know can we talk about can we talk about yes your double brain hemorrhage stroke aneurysm post first season of game of thrones i can't even imagine you were how old i was 22 uh no no no just 23 oh god what was i i keep you were bloody young i was 22 23 which one i could genuinely keep forgetting someone will be like quick maths amelia well done um yeah so i was i was young but i i was um so great like literally i'd seen one television camera before doing game of thrones so like the build-up to the first brain hemorrhage was massive because it was the first season of the show was genuinely one of the most happiest seasons i've ever we've ever done because it was everyone just being like i don't know I was trying.

30:52Did you think it was going to be a big thing? This is the thing that, I mean, with such sincerity, I was just so over the moon to have a job. Like, everyone keeps me like, but you were doing HBO. And now I'm like, oh, yeah, I get it. I absolutely get why someone would be like, oh, did you feel weird about signing up for that many seasons? Or, like, did you kind of, were you aware of what it was going to be? But I cannot stress enough how little I knew about anything. so I was just over the moon to be a part of something and I think maybe some of the back of my brain was like oh this is like a a very big thing but I've never ever ever wanted to again this is instilled from family stuff but like I've never wanted to be reliant on success or on my job from being the thing that makes me feel value do you know what I mean so I would I would always err on the side of caution I would always be like yeah but we don't know and we don't know and I could get fired at any point and I get half empty yeah kind of like yeah my glass is always over spilling for people but for my own stuff and my own work I'm always like well let's just assume it's going to be crap so we're protecting yourself isn't it 100 % yeah 100 million percent I do not yes please I'll get it I'll get it so you wrap Game of Thrones or had it come out by this point no we'd wrapped it so you having a bit of time off first kind of proper acting job and you're like fucking and then what happened?

32:21And I got, so yeah, then I went to so we wrapped that at Christmas and then I went to America and did a bit of press for the show where I could say, Amelia Clarkie what do you have the same as Amelia Clarkie me and Sean Bean on a panel very funny and then I got American Agents and then like just doing all of that kind of stuff and then came back to my flat in Dalston head spinning, not really knowing what I'm meant to be doing but like reading exciting scripts from America and feeling like oh my god this is this is really exciting this is really huge I have a career um and then was in the gym one morning and like dragged myself there like fully it was so tired but was on a television show and was being an actress and was like I'm now meant to work out right okay so I'm gonna do what everyone is insistent idea is telling me to do and I'm gonna get on a treadmill um and I was with i'd got this personal trainer from the gym so he was working me out and i was doing the plank and no before then i remember i was doing what was on like the cross train or whatever and just went oh my god i'm so tired no push through it push through it push through it and then i'd do another thing and be like oh my god i'm so tired be like no no no push through push through you can do it um and then doing the plank and i suddenly went oh my god i've got the most excruciating head I don't know what's going on.

33:37You were basically having a hemorrhage then. It's literally, I remember it really, obviously really vividly. It's like an elastic band just went like snap around your brain. Like that's the only way I can describe it. So you couldn't actually feel that sensation? Oh my God, yeah. And it was just like, boom, in a second, suddenly, imagine your whole brain is just being shrink-wrapped and squeezed. and like and then then I started to feel incredibly ill and I like crawled to the loo it was being really I'm not going to do this while we're ready but not well um this is all at the gym this is all at the gym and the loo in the gym and then this woman whose face I've never I can only all I knew was I've always put me in the recovery position and got the ambulance to come and they didn't know what it was and they were like this is really weird because you're young you're young and like you're just tired and I kept trying to yeah but I was when I was being ill I knew I was being brain damaged I was in that toilet stall just being like I absolutely know this is brain damage and it's not happening like it's 100 % not happening this is not the way my life is gonna go I'm I'm gonna be an actress this is like and it was just like the as strong as the pain was this like fight that was just like not not happening wiggling my fingers and toes I was like okay what's what's brain damage brain damage is oh you're gonna be paralyzed okay so you're probably slipping into a coma so you probably shouldn't go to sleep so like move your fingers and toes, move fingers and toes, move your legs, where's your mum from, what's your dad's name, what are lines from the show, like, what's your full name, like, trying to keep myself awake, literally, and, like, moving.

35:10No, I was kind of... Okay. And they didn't know what it was, so they couldn't give me any drugs. And so I was just there in, like... So, what, did they give you an MRI scan? Did they do an MRI scan? It took them a really long time. Because you couldn't speak? Yeah, and it was the weirdest thing, so I've never said this before, but it was the strangest thing. I remember really vividly being in they'd put me in a room in A &E like just off the main bit and it was a rowdy Saturday night and some and I'm drifting in and out of consciousness and like still haven't had any pain medication and I got my mum and dad and my brother all in the room with me and I just can't move my head I can't do anything and I hear what is obviously someone just I'm quite jumpy anyway but I heard what was someone obviously throwing a chair or like it started to get rowdy some idiot because it's a saturday night and you've got a lot of like there's a lot of stuff going on and i thought it was a gunshot and apparently i bolted upright and was like lock the door and then just passed out again because i there was like some weird bit of my brain that was it was like aware of danger and was like family must be safe and just went anyway that was all very dramatic then the nurse um saw that the nurse whose husband was a brain surgeon was like i think you need a brain scan i think that's what you need and then after that they realized what it was and like i got into the most amazing hospital yeah literally yeah i mean it was blood i mean so it took a while for them to work well i think probably because she was so young they just didn't imagine no one assumed no one assumed that that's what it would be and they kept you know to be honest they're a bit like are you taking any drugs yeah like what are you doing kids drugs was stretched don't they yeah exactly in young people in young people yeah and um i was just i was just so lucky at like every turn i was just crazy crazy lucky how do you have the double hemorrhage by that point no so that was just one and then they said another one well yeah so that was it so then they worked they we did the operation but there was what is the operation that they would do so with this one they did um a non-invasive one so they go through your femur artery and they go all the way around your heart and into your brain and they plug it with little wires and so because if you imagine that when your brain is being formed i was born with a weakness which you can never detect and as your brain goes into the two sides that weakness is reflected on but mirrored on both sides so this is basically like a little bit of your vein is just a bit weak as well as the blood pumps around it just turns into a bubble so is that an aneurysm that's an aneurysm so you can see that on a scan yeah and then it and then if you get enough blood pressure going around so like i've never done thank god i've never done cocaine because that would have killed me on the spot um because the amount of blood pressure that goes around when you're doing that um and so with that bleed like as it's open it's just free blood going around and it'll just kill whatever bit of you were kind of lucky to be alive well yeah had you been in the wrong place completely at the wrong time on a beach in thailand and my brain was yeah smart what it did was so when you've got um when there's a bit of your brain that doesn't get any blood to it it it dies it's gone but what my brain did then was find another way around and then it just kept running i'm still getting a lot of free blood in the body which like your body is not used to and doesn't really like but so what they did is they filled when you say free blood like loose like just blood not in a vein so just in your brain or bleeding internal bleeding yeah in your brain no no no no as in that's what happens that's what was happening okay fine and then um and so then that little bit they fill with with wires so that the blood can continue going around on its normal course and doesn't just keep escaping so that was the first procedure um and then they were like you've got another one on the side it's too small to operate on just keep an eye on it and then two years later i'm doing a play on broadway and um i'm on the last day of my sag medical so i went because i was getting bi-annual scans at that point like every six months or something um medical is sag medical medical medical insurance it's just insurance yeah yeah so i went in and they um uh they were like you need to operate on this now it's actually doubled in size since your last scan so i was like i don't really want to see but okay um yeah yeah well i just finished the play so i was like what am i going to do next and was just beginning to feel a little bit stronger from the first one um and they were like we'll just do the same procedure so to prevent it from ever you will put the wires in so that it like strengthens that little vulnerable it sounds like a really petrifying um operation yeah so then i was like okay fine but i'll be around in two hours and they made it all cushy and it was all cool and then when i come round uh they've brought me around because the wires got stuck and it was a bigger bleed than the last time and they were like the only way that we're gonna save you is if we cut your head open and do it the old-fashioned way which is clamping it so that's when they cut your head open I'm so sorry listeners um cut your head open and um take out a bit of your skull and then they go in and then that little balloon they just get a clamp and just clamp it at there so that's as sturdy as anything like the coppers you've still got the balloon in there so it's clamped well known because that ruptured and then oh then they okay and then they probably all gone now somewhere in my brain um but then they clamp it but then what you're recovering from is you're recovering from open brain surgery as well as the bleed and then i'd like died for a minute and they were they told my parents i was not going to make it and then they told my parents i was going to be permanently paralyzed and then this is all happening in like an eight nine ten hour operation you were supposed to just go in for a procedure yeah and it because it sometimes goes wrong sometimes and this was obviously just a bit too what was the repercussions once you woke up once i woke up it was it was just like both times waking up after that kind of surgery both times i in the beginning you really can't move so like my peripheral my vision was just like what i could see here and you can only it's this mad thing you i've got such a sense memory of both times coming around and being like you're aware of the noises first but you've never been in the room before and you have no idea what's happened you've no idea what's going on you're trying to piece everything together and work it all out and then um the main thing that happens when you've had that kind of surgery is the first week and a half you're just sick to your stomach and all you want is water but then you throw it up immediately so it's this like this parched thirst thing that you and it's because you've had all of the things the tubes down your throat and all that stuff so the second one it took me a really long time to kind of get my self together was with the first one because it wasn't such an invasive thing I think it was I was in I was aware of how much pain I was in and I was aware of all of that kind of stuff but that happened quicker than the with the second one where I kind of just felt like out of it the entire time was it very I mean did people talk about it at the time because I've only heard about this recently well no so I kept it silent yeah until eight months ago so how does how did it impact on did did you have to delay going back to game of friends because no so that was things I didn't with the first one I couldn't let them know what happened until then until they knew I wasn't going to die so it took him three weeks took us three weeks to be like sorry for not answering the old emails I've just been a bit I'm fine by the way everything's great I'm totally fine I'm going to be back to work nothing's wrong with me it's all good because I just was and consistently so scared of being fired for whatever reason that's not fair but that was me more than I had no idea how well taken care of I was so you set up the charity recently you launched it this year we launched it 8 months ago and from the first one I was like I have to I've I've like my life has been saved I've got to give back I have to give back and was just going to get like a sofa for the family room because the family room like my parents would never complain but like they looked in pain all the time um and then I was like I know what can I do for the nurses how can I give back that way and we were trying to figure it out and every time I'd think about it I was like no we can't just get you know obviously we sent them nice things but like I wanted to actually do something significant and then when the second one happened I was just like I'm meant to be here and so I need to like do something with this like this is ridiculous that I'm still alive and here and I'm here because of all these amazing people so then we started brainstorming as to what it could be and then I wasn't going to tell my story because I would go in and out of like I'll be doing press and then I'd suddenly go Emilia imagine you're telling the story right now and it freaked me out and I just felt not ready because I kept to seek from everyone for so long and I was so scared and I was so ashamed and I saw all of those things and then um because it was my mum who's kind of created this with me oh great amazing businesswoman amazing having your mum she also they always said it was genetic and then January after my dad died so it was 2017 she woke up with vertigo and um they thought she was having a stroke so they took her to the hospital and then they did a brain scan and saw that she had an aneurysm and it hadn't ruptured so she had to have the preventative procedure that went amazingly and all good um and then we just slowly but surely worked out what what it is that we wanted to do and then we tried to figure out how we could do it without telling my story and then I was like well no one would care so I have to do it and we've got to do it and then as soon as I did it was like oh wow that's actually a real weight off because I'm I'd get interviewed all the time they'd be like what's happened to you in your life and I'm like nothing nothing just been doing this tv show like that's it there's nothing i can speak to um and so then getting to say it was kind of liberating and frightening how did you choose to say it like so i did a piece in the new yorker because i didn't want a big song and dance i basically was just like people are going to be like our celebrity sob story like we care but then they ended up with pictures of you in hospital in the mail online i know well that was something that i i put that picture of myself up because I was like, this picture's going to like just address the problem even more and they see me standing there looking all capable, having done all the stuff that I've done.

45:27Then it becomes clickbaity but then more people read about it. Yeah, no, exactly. So like, that's fine. You want to read about the thing that happened to me and therefore reading about the charity and how they can help, then that'd be really good. So how does the charity help? Is it just, um, is it? So the charity itself is a grant giving charity. What's it called, first of all? SameU. SameU. SameU.org. There you go. listeners yeah good um so we are essentially a grant giving body so people will come and say we we need money to do this and we will the board and everyone get together and decide yes that's something and then we will oversee that project and make sure that it's all who do you think was most significant in your recovery my recovery i mean besides your parents yeah i was yeah um significant in my recovery this is going to sound real naff get ready for it ladies and gentlemen and genuinely the most significant person in my recovery was Mother of Dragons.

46:22She was the actual thing that got me out of bed every day. Yeah, fully. So the show, like, you've got to be on stage. Imagine if it happened to you and you've got to be on stage. Guess what? You're probably getting on stage. You've got, like, it's, do you know what I mean? It's your, it's your, it's your identity. It's the thing that you get to not sit there and go, oh my God, I feel really awful. And you go, yeah, complete escapism. Exactly. So it turned into that. I think genuinely that the show was absolutely the thing that just like saved me because it distracted me it got me back to work yes I was exhausted yes I still had this crazy amount of fatigue and like mad anxiety I thought I was gonna die all the time and couldn't tell anyone I was feeling a bit kind of so then then because I wasn't saying to anyone it became this thing of like well then she's my character is the thing that's gonna so then every job that I did I would kind of just funnel it all into there and not really look at it at all and just kind of was aware that I was going to do a charity later on and was going to try and help me bring it back and do you think maybe that's why you work so hard as well is it like yeah is it a way of kind of dealing and coping with this fact that you've had these pretty yeah I mean I've I've always because my dad was in the crew the thing that he like instilled in me was professionalism and like you turn up on time and you're not a dick and you know your lines and you are nice to everyone make your marks like it's do you mark do you exactly like it's just really simple and that's like just just be a professional like it all turns to be professional because then you can't go wrong like no matter how well you've done in that scene or whatever like you can just just just be nice just be like a good person and so regardless of the brain hemorrhages I would have always put my everything into it but i definitely think that i probably did it with much more ferocity like i genuinely was more worried about getting fired than i was about um dying you know i mean because you did because it's that's like a rational thing you can think about like when you're early 20s and you've got to consider your own mortality i just didn't my dad died and then i was like oh death right yeah how old was your dad when he died 69 it's just too young yeah too young she said he's 68 yeah no my mom's 70 like it's yeah it's it's it was too it was just way too young but that made me think about death more than being close to it and having you know but yeah i've been very close to it thank you it was it isn't cat's vomit it's actually anchovy oh emulsion my favorite okay great i love it perfect but it does look a bit like day.

48:59What's your thing to do with your potatoes? I don't know. Put them in a bowl. Do you want me to do them? Sorry. Only because I want to serve up the milk. Do you like milk? Yes! The king of the fishes!

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51:42That monkfish is so good. Is it? That is so good. You're so sweet. No, no, no, no, I'm not being sweet. I'm being completely honest. That is delicious. Yum. Okay, so you listen to this podcast. You know what the questions are. Last supper. Let's go. I know this is... So this is a question that I ask myself, people around me, like all the time. Fine. And so it changes all the time. And that's fine. Right. It would begin definitely with oysters. I've decided. From anywhere in particular? I don't know. Just really good, juicy, yummy oysters. That doesn't have so much of a memory attached to it. But with some like epic bread and butter.

52:27And the oysters need to have the red wine, shallot, vinaigrette and loads of lemon. So it'd be that. and then the rest of my whole meal is basically just dad stuff because i was like if i could have a meal from anywhere i just want my dad's cooking back and then there's so many to choose from that i was really trying to figure out what it was but if i were to be doing this last meal in like christmas time then i think it wouldn't be his club sandwich it wouldn't be his amazing macaroni cheese that used to have mature cheddar and like thick cut smoky bacon and parmesan and like it was next level it wouldn't be that it would be um he used to make this beef stew with orange that was like mental it was so good with his um sweet potato mash alongside it and then he would always just grill veggies just like char grilled kind of veggies um and then he made this it would be a the dessert would be a toss-up between a crumble with thick custard i would probably need apple and i'd need that crumble to be barely cooked i mean some chewy bits on the top and then basically like raw i agree as you get closer to the fruit but would you do a mixture apple and plum or is it just apple i think classic or maybe apple and blackberry because i used to have that as a kid quite a lot but then my dad it would either be that or it would be my dad used to make poached red wine pears with his homemade amaretto ice cream oh wow oh my god and little amaretto biscuits it is the yummiest thing so he'd always make it look really pretty on the plate and then you've just got syrup red wine syrup and then the poached pear and then loads of um homemade amaretto ice cream amaretto just the broken up amaretto biscuits the booze oh the booze And it makes it really soft.

54:15So it's really, really, really good. And then to drink... Do you have his recipes? I've got them in my head. Yeah, because he used to... No, no. His famous thing he used to do all the time that I definitely can't do myself is just his white wine, ginger, garlic, lemon, chicken. Marinated chicken, but you marinate it for like a day. And then you'd just grill it. And then the next morning, that sauce that was in it would turn into jelly and you'd have that on bread it was so good you'd have the jelly it was so good yeah yeah like you could just have like a spoonful of the jelly and it would just go with all of this amazing stuff so that is but i mean there's a million other meals that i'm not saying that like it would and would it be bubbles with it well so that's the thing it would definitely the oysters need the champagne but then i think i think with that meal oh no where am i kidding yeah it'd be champagne the whole way through but then finishing off with a dessert wine and then some like chocolates like you know how you do in posh restaurants and you've got the kind of petty fours exactly so you can like round it off so do you host a lot when you have time so like what was the last dinner party that you did and what did you cook i can't remember what was the last thing i cooked what did you have the last thing the last hosting i've done a lot is just like parties like parties parties and what are the drinks okay okay so what Oh my God, does that still happen?

55:41Yeah. Oh, wow. Because I really love my house and it's really easy. And like the last one that we did. But don't people wreck it? Isn't that point not to have a house party? They've always been all right. Okay, fine. I do also have a little kind of bar area in my house. Oh. So you can make things really easily. There's a... There's a beer thing? Yeah. Oh my God, you have like a pub in your... Yeah, in my house. Is that... But you're not... You can only drink one drink. so you just like to entertain for other people. I really like to entertain for other people but one of them is beer and the other one is Prosecco.

56:15Oh wow, yes! But then it really didn't take me long for me to realise that the Prosecco had run out and then everyone was like oh I want to get that Prosecco on tap and I was like oh shit I should probably refill that one because I was being more concerned about like and then I had an IPA on that was 16 % and I didn't realise because I don't really drink beer. I always, whenever I'm in the pub and people are drinking beer because for a million different reasons I don't really drink it. I'll always have sips of theirs. So I end up drinking other people's drinks. I'm a nightmare. I end up drinking other people's drinks.

56:46Because as soon as someone's got a glass of beer in their hand, I'm like, I've got to have it. Do you like the taste of it? I love it. I absolutely love it. It's full of bloody gluten. Yeah, exactly. So that's why I'm like, one glug and then I'm done and then I'll carry it with my champagne. You know what? You've just given me a proper movie star thing and I really appreciate that because I like that you've got a pub in your house. I'd like to say it's a cocktail bar, sorry. What is it? What would you call it? It was my shed. And then I turned it into a bar. So it's in the back of your garden?

57:12Yeah. At the end of your garden? Oh my God. Because I was like, I don't need a shed. I mean, I've got a courtyard garden. It's got like trees in it. But that's it. So how many people can this shed fit? Not very many. Okay. But we ram it. And then I made it glass everywhere. So I wanted it to look like a great Gatsby bar. Basically, everywhere in my house, everything's always a bit weird. You sort of don't know what you're going to get around the corner. Because I didn't buy my own house for ages and ages. like I've only been living in this house for about a year and a half um because I kind of just you know sorted other made sure everyone was good before I uh and so I'd had all of this time to dream up what I wanted to look like and I love interior design like I love it so much but I like doing all of the like everything's a little bit weird and a bit magical so there's um yeah so in the bar it's like it's bright pink and there's these like mirrored tiles everywhere and this kind of like a speakeasy sort of vibe and so there's Prosecco on tap and beer on tap and um and then all these bonkers glasses and it turns into a piece everyone comes around and you like and you're all crumbling in there and there's like no room because it's really really tiny and it just gets a vibe going and what's on the playlist what's on the playlist um do you play there's a lot of grime when it's when it's my like hardcore friends from because of you know i mean you're in a circle mates um and this last party that i had we basically waited for everyone to leave and then we just got on their decks and like put on just just grime just dirty grime and like raved like mad if i had a bar in the house i'd be in there every night yeah we wouldn't get you out i'd live there mom we've got a shed in the garden do you want to make it into a bar now that is amazing okay so mom may have fluffed the uh pudding a bit no actually i think she has fluffed it so we may have to get your chocolates out we basically made a chocolate cake that was dairy free oh my god you were dairy three yeah no no we forgot about the gluten part so basically it's got gluten in it so you do not have to have it so i love you we fucked up basically so it's there you can look at it you can smell it let we can chuck into one of your chocolates and we've got some raspberries and perfect i'm so sorry we've got we've got dairy free ice cream your swedish glass we do have dairy free ice cream if you'd like some but you do not have to thank you so much if you've like you know this is like my fault it's my fault it's our fault i don't normally take this long to that's because i've been asking you a lot of questions like absolutely don't worry i just yeah i'm also the fastest eater in the world emilia clark yeah i can't quite believe you're in my um house but you've come my mom's house you've come over for the chicken soup yes You've chatted.

59:54You've been so lovely. Eating matzo balls. Never forget. And now you get a tea towel. Yes, the tea towel. Thank you. It's been such a pleasure. Thank you so much. I'm going to slide into your desk. Wonderful DMs more often now. Yeah, girl.

1:00:27Dermot O 'Leary reminded me of this moment in the podcast, which makes me so proud to do this podcast, but it was so touching to hear Amelia talk about her late dad and his love of food and the salad in a bag and talking about surviving two aneurysms, which she kept so private and she's been so brave. She's fascinating. Also, I'd quite like a bar in my house. Oh, yes. Prosecco and beer on tap, sure. Also, I have to say, I was invited to one of her birthday parties and it was one of the best parties I've ever been to in my life. It was just so fun. It was brilliant. Amelia Clarke, you host a mean party lady.

1:01:12She also bought the best presents. Champagne and delicious chocolate. We loved having you, Amelia. In fact, I feel like, again, that was 2019. we could have Amelia back on when do we start saying it's okay to have guests on again we'll see anyway that was Amelia Clark on Second Helpings we'll see you next week for some more Second Helpings

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