Second Helpings - Yungblud

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2:44Lennie Ware: Hello and welcome to Second Helpings 2026. We have for our guest this week Youngblood, who came on the podcast in November 2020. Wow, that blew my mind. What did? Youngblood. Oh, I love him so much. Dom is such a fantastic human. It's before we entered lockdown 2.0, and so we had high tea with Youngblood at mum's. and we had all the windows open and I think we had to be separated from each other slightly. We had to do the photo outside and he came over to talk about his album, Weird. Didn't Youngblood have make-up on it? He certainly had black nails on it. Yeah, I'm sure he had a bit of eyeliner on.

3:20Lennie Ware: And he had eyeliner on and now and again, the picture of him and us together comes up on my memories. Memories. And then I sit, I think, who's that? And then I realise who it is. Yeah, it was high tea with champagne, sausage rolls, sandwiches and a lot of swearing. So brace yourself, he swears even more than me. Youngblood coming up on Second Helpings. Hi Dom. Hiya, how are you? Oh my god, you are a star. I feel like I'm in the presence of a star. Really? Yes. Oh, that's mental. You're like, you've got it, baby. Don't tell me that. No, but it's, and you are, I think, the youngest person we've ever had on this fucking podcast.

4:00Lennie Ware: Really? Yeah, I mean, you were born in 96. 97, actually. 97? 97, yeah. Shit. I remember the years well. So you're young, blood. I'm old, blood. I'm into that. I'm into that. I love it. Your mother's probably younger than Jessie. My mum's 50 this year. Oh, crikey. I'm not 50. Not yet. But how's things? Good, man. It's all a bit weird, isn't it? Yeah. It's all a bit bizarre. Yeah. But I don't know. I'm happy. I literally got home two months ago, so I'm happy to be back in the UK. Where have you been? I was in Los Angeles. I was in Hollywood. do you not like it? I ate it I love Los Angeles I just I don't know why I'm just so British like I love Ob Nobs and Yorkshire tea I mean the tea is shit it's so shit Jesse's not made that brew long enough sorry no I'm actually into it man I kind of like it but it's like at least it's an English tea bag yeah well I mean probably not but like typical typical British person I like Yorkshire you don't get Yorkshire tea no it's too strong for me that's English breakfast but Lipton that's the extra tea the Licton shit the Licton shit so where were you living in LA?

5:10I was living in Venice Beach

5:12Lennie Ware: oh it's gorgeous I mean it was gorgeous but that's the thing about it I like cold and wet and cigs and pints and like you can't get that tea do you know what I mean you just can't get that there and it was like it's alright but it's like I just find people a bit full of shit out there I'm kind of like tell the truth till it gets me in trouble do you know what I mean like most of the time it's like oh shit shouldn't have said that do you know what I mean if someone's like do you like my jumper? I'm like, not really. I mean, I'll say it in like the nicest way possible. I'm going to get those balloons.

5:42Lennie Ware: Mum has just said, so, so, we've got some balloons in the house. Dom, Dom, yeah, we're actually going to do some laughing gas now. We said we were going to give you a sausage roll, but actually we're going to get the canisters out. I'm actually down. Come to Jessie Ware's house, we're going to get high. Yeah. Well, anyway, you, for people that can't see, um, young blood, he has a skull jumper on. It's really nice. And my mum, I don't know why you've got these, but mum's got balloons. I've got school balloons, but it's not for Halloween, obviously. Was it for Halloween, mum? There you go, you're sorted.

6:11Lennie Ware: Do you know what? I love it. Can I nick some of these to put up in the house for Halloween? Thank you so much, man. Can have them. So, I mean, food. Tell me, growing up in Doncaster, what's like a memorable meal from your childhood? Bangers and mash. Always, like, stews. Like, my mum would make, like, to be honest, my mum, like, runs a cake shop. She's got a little cake shop. Oh, nice. no I promise you oh shit and my cake's sorry in the middle I'm definitely getting the cake I saw that man she's probably listening now but my sisters is all the work to be honest my sisters do like the cake maker my mum's gonna kill me how many brothers and sisters I got two younger sisters two little two girls so they were born in like 2000 yeah Izzy's 13 and Jem's 22 so Jem's a year younger than me and Izzy's 13 I think that like one night on the red wine to be honest do you know what I mean I think they're like my mum was like I want to have a baby.

7:04My dad's like, what? And then she came out and she's definitely the favourite kid. Is she? Absolutely.

7:11Lennie Ware: Really? She's the middle one. Oh, no, she's the youngest. The youngest is the favourite. Yeah, complete likes. Oh, fancy that. Yeah, that's like Dr. Alex too. Oh, Dr. Alex. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't matter, I'm a pop star. You don't need to say anything. No, you can't. Dr. Alex. You can't trump that. Exactly. He's a doctor, you know, Alex. Yeah. Alex is a doctor. I had to put it in, but usually it's my mum. and she goes, my son. And she kind of does it like she's apologising for you because you're not a doctor. You're not quite a doctor. It's like, you are not as good as my little boy. Or people will say, your daughter's an actress.

7:46Lennie Ware: Oh, your other daughter's a singer. And I say, yeah. I say, ask me about my son. Anyway, so your middle, the middle one works in the cake shop. Yeah, Gem's like a crazy cut. And it's mad. I think she kind of learnt from me more with me nan. Like, they're just the best. So what were your birthday cakes like? If your mum had a cake shop, did she have a cake shop then? Yeah, pretty mental. No, she got it, like, my mum had a bad car accident a couple years ago, actually, which was a bit, which was so sad. Like, she nearly, like, we nearly lost, to be honest. But she used insurance money to kind of, she always had a dream of having a cake shop.

8:21So she was like, do you know what?

8:22Lennie Ware: That's something positive. That's what I'm saying. That, like, proper northern woman broke her back in, like, two places. Had a mad operation. seven months later she's like running around in a cake shop so rock and roll more of a punk than me what's it called the cake shop Jaffa and Cakes Jaffa and Cakes because she's got a little sausage dog that's orange and black called Jaffa Cake so she's like Jaffa and Cakes I love it because dogs always in shop you know what I mean dogs just running around does she serve a cup of tea as well everything like cup of tea sandwiches sandwiches sausage roll oh god darling why have we done high tea then I'm too loud everyone used to say to me in school everyone else used to say to me in school energy not volume energy not volume do you know what I mean every single person who's ever met me Dom we just want energy not volume I'm always like so were you very clever at school I was to be honest I was I was good at what I wanted to be good at I think alright so what you're good at I was good at I loved history I loved history ate at maths got suspended for me when he was a maths teacher what did you do pulled a moon at my maths teacher love that yeah why because you hated maths but why because you got the question wrong no it was just like me i don't know man i think to be honest like in school everyone knew i always loved performing do i mean i was like i would half the time i wouldn't even go to maths i'd be skiving in the music center i remember all my mates were like yo i dated moon and miss and i was like no no no no i'm not doing that i'm not doing that going go on dom go on dom go on I'm like I'm not doing it man I'm just not gonna do it like go on go on go on go on go on go on I was like all right then bang pull my bum out and press it against the glass and get suspended oh dude like you should have seen like walked in like it two classes later two hours later the deputy head walks in is like you know exactly who you are get out of this classroom now and I'm like oh this is this is bad bad like it's kind of a bad and then there's like a bad bad I'm like all right cool I'm probably going to get expelled and I'm not going to be able to become a doctor so I mean so like mum's not going to be able to.

10:30Lennie Ware: But everyone's going to want to see your bum in the future. Yeah exactly and that's what I'm saying Have you showed your bum ever to anyone else since? In public. In public oh no no no no no I mean I learnt that lesson very much very quickly to be honest the deputy pulls me into his office and he's suspending me but he's laughing he's like can't hold his humour and so So he's like, we're going to have to... Who's calling? That's my mum. Oh, say hi.

11:02Lennie Ware: Your fans are devoted beyond, right? They are the best. All it was about for me was kind of building a culture. Because in Donny, it was great, but a lot of people didn't get me. Do you know what I mean? I was always wearing, I wanted to wear makeup and I wanted to kind of wear skirts and was always very loud and very opinionated. And people loathe people being free. You know what I mean? Especially in a place like that where it's like, we're set in our ways, we know what we want. Everything's been done a certain way. If anyone tries to disrupt the status quo, you're going to kind of get your ass smacked.

11:41You know what I mean?

11:42Lennie Ware: Your mum and dad didn't mind you. No, my dad sold guitars for a living. Okay. So he was pretty rock and roll. Yeah, my dad saw it all. Do you know what I mean? And then my mum literally would paint my nails and straighten me out. And she's just mental, you know what I mean? So she loved it. But then I was like, I just want to build a culture. I can't exist in this world. And it made me, like, kind of hate myself and kind of be like, I'm such a weirdo. You know what I mean? Why am I different? And I was like, if I can't belong in this world, so I'm going to build a world I can belong in for myself.

12:12And if there's anyone out there like me, I don't want them to feel like this. So I want them to be able to exist in a place that is accepting no matter what color you are, what sexuality you are, what size shape you are, whatever you want to wear, whatever you want to look like, whatever you want to say. And basically, I just started putting out music with that message. And I was just like, is there anyone out there like me? And like, fuck me, man.

12:37Lennie Ware: There were a lot of them. Yeah, like millions. and it's like it's literally like i always kind of it's like me having a conversation with three million kids it's like the music second it's just about talking and it's always like plays in my head because once you get into the music industry like headline once you kind of get like a label and start to get big or whatever everyone's always talking about like hits and whatever and i was like i never really cared about that like like it's great that the songs do well and it streams it's like I just wanted to play stadiums you just want to play just that yeah but I mean that's that would kind of require a hit right I mean well or not that's what I'm saying it's like when I look at it like I want to build my career like the Stone Roses did like the Stone Roses did like two nights at Spycari because it was a culture you know I mean it's like I don't I don't know you know I mean what like at Marilyn Manson did he ever have a number one hit no but he had number one albums you know and he had a culture and he plays the biggest shows ever do you know i mean i think like i would it would be great like trust me it'd be like sick cool i got on it song but it's like i don't really think about that when i write i just want to tell the truth you know i mean has it been quite a weight that having this kind of responsibility of being this messenger for this youth and kind of or or i mean have you ever ever got yourself into trouble oh yeah because i can imagine all these people are watching waiting on every word completely it's like a proper conversation it's literally like i'm having christmas dinner with three million people you know what i mean so it's like because that boundary like there is no boundaries in my fan base there's literally not it's not like kill i had a great show i'm gonna get me mercedes fucking viana with a bottle of champagne you know i mean it's like after every show up no matter now we're like moving into like arenas and i'm like i'm gonna be outside the show as i was at 100 seat and I'm figuring that out.

14:32Like putting a platform in the car park and going to meet everyone afterwards. Do you know what I mean? Because that's what it's about. I kind of like that more than being on stage. It's about connecting. Complete. It's about connecting person by person. That's what I said at the beginning. I was at this music industry event in LA, obviously. And this guy, I think this music industry person comes up to me and he's got a bit of fucking canapé on his shirt. You know what I mean? And he's like, what's the formula, man?

14:58Lennie Ware: I'm like, what? He's like, I mean, come on, what's the formula? Like, it's all a load of bollocks. And I'm just like, tell the truth. Speak to someone person by person. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's kind of. Because the thing, I think, you're very unique, aren't you? And you're like, but you are. I mean, there is only one young lad, right? But yeah, it's mad. But it's this thing. And the industry wants what you've got. Completely. And they want to take it and be able to apply it to someone else. No, exactly. But it is hilarious that it starts off as no one in the, like when we started out, no one gave a shit.

15:39No one had even write something bad about us. I wish someone would be like, this is the shittest thing I've ever heard. I wish people would be like, this is the worst thing. But it just didn't bother. It just didn't bother. They were just like, just like a B-rate Arctic monkeys. I was like, okay, I understand your point slightly. But, but just listen to what I have to say and you might learn something. And then it just started working in like the most odd places. Like I remember going to the Netherlands and there were like 200 kids at a show lined up, camped out as they would do now. I was like, wow.

16:12Lennie Ware: How long ago was this? Probably three years ago, two and a half years ago. And when your first record came out, when? 2018, yeah. So you were just 20? just turned 20 yeah yeah so just let me i just got to catch up a little bit so you get excluded from school you're a bit of a bad boy but you entertain everybody a lovable room that was it man i was like out like do you know i mean if i wanted to get an a i kind of you i could i mean it's like did you get gcsc yeah i did yeah i got an a star in english literature i didn't even read the book wow do you know i mean one of those people that wing it i was just blagging it i was just like form it forming fucking opinions about like i don't must have known a little i can't even remember which was the no i knew a little importance of being earnest i mean i remember and i formulated some answer that jack and algin on were secretly in a gay relationship ship well i think that was yeah i know but like you can potentially take that but then i ran with it for a whole essay and it must have been like oh wow this must have been blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah do you know what i mean and i mean if i wanted to do it whereas i turned up to my physics gcse high do you know what i mean i like smoked a spliff in the park my mate before it's like how did that work out not really got a d do you know what i mean though it's just like If I was into it, like, or drama, I'd just be studying and studying and studying.

17:51Or music, I knew every single piece of music back to front and play it backwards.

17:55Lennie Ware: Did you leave school at 16? I left school to come to London. When? At 16. I don't know what year, but I was 16. If I'm 23 now, that is. Five years ago. Seven years ago. Seven years ago. We all did well in maths. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, seven years ago. So who did you live with? I lived with a lady called Marge. Why? Right, because I did that. It was cheap. It was 70 quid a week for an house share. And I met my best mate there, James. And we are chalk and cheese. Like, I don't talk about this very often. This is a funny story. So I moved out of London, right? I'm in, like, Hounslow.

18:29And I'm, like, thinking big city. It's not really that big city. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's actually not London. It's Middlesex, but all right. It was saying, you know what I mean? Potato, potato. And I go into the house. And I'm, like, I meet my friend and mate. I'm, like, hello, mate. How are you pretending to be Liam Gallagher? he's like hello i'm nice to meet you i'm james from portsmouth and i like he's like the polar opposite to me tourette's ocd like folds his socks kind of shit i mean i'm like socks under my bed because he was like he was in london as well we're gonna go i was going to doing what i was

19:03Lennie Ware: gonna go to art school okay so you're on a mission to arts educational school in chiswick right oh yeah that's where i'm going so were you going to be doing like performing i was just i was like i I was going to do drama. I was going to do music. And I was like, God, there's so much in there. We're just like plowing through my life. I'm kind of looking at it like mad. And it was weird, bro, because I was like, music. I want to do music. I want to be in a band, but it seems so hard to me. So I was like, cool, I might do theater for a bit. And then I did a couple shows. I did a show in Manchester.

19:34I did West Side Story in the director. Who were you? Riff in West Side Story.

19:38Lennie Ware: Wow. Yeah. Now you're talking. That's what I'm saying. Is that boy? Boy. Yeah, we're in your edge. Yeah, that kind of shit. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, I did that. And I met a choreographer called Drew McConney because they wanted to do it with people that it would be. It would be 15-year-old young people. In West Side Story, it wouldn't be 25-year-olds playing 15-year-olds. They did it as real young people, which was sick. And the choreographer was like, listen, I can put in a word art said because I think you should train now. I was like, all right, cool. Let's try it. It'd be sick.

20:08Got in, met James, completely chalk and cheese. he'd be like hello how are you like i'm the best kid in the world he's still my best mate so i can just take the piss out of him like that he's like oh um i'll be back by seven and i've not been home in three days and marge is ringing my mom like he's been out well she wasn't from doncaster so she was from the north but she looked like share to be honest it's kind of cool she's quite spooky and she made so much lasagna she made a lasagna every two days and i was skint so i lived on

20:36Lennie Ware: Did you like it? Do you eat it a lot now? Fuck no, I didn't like it. It's like scarred me for life. I'm sorry, Marge, no offence. But it scarred me for fucking life because it was like so gloopy. And it was fine, but it was like the gloopiest lasagna you've ever had. It's like, feel it through my arteries. And I would live off it because I'd spend all my money on beer. Like, do you know what I mean? You like beer? We never got any beer in jazz. No, it's all right. But I'd be like, do you know what I mean? Doing what I was doing, I was like at my mate's party or whatever or and it was just funny because I with me and James were quite good influences on each other because he would straighten me out a bit so if we had like lines to learn he'd make sure I learned my lines and I just like come on man you've been sat in your room for three days we're gonna do something naughty now do you know I mean like let's go to park and ask someone to get us some beer in the shop or whatever I don't know and then yeah it was it was great where does James live now he lives in Chiswick still and he's vibing and what's he It's a move from Hounslow to Chiswick.

21:37He's an actor, but he's having a hard time right now. Oh, shame. Because of the... Yeah, exactly. There's no jobs right now. So he's like... He's good, though, man. He's teaching a lot and he's inspiring and he's cool.

21:53Lennie Ware: Was Doncaster ready for you? I don't know. I mean, do you know what's interesting? I'm playing my first show in Doncaster next year. I was going to ask that. And I've avoided it for as long as I could. Why? Bet it's the biggest crowd. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot goes on in Doncaster. It's going to be the biggest crowd. My mum's going to have a guest list of like 700. Tell me about it. It's a nightmare. Isn't it a nightmare? It's mental. Do you crowd surf? Oh, yeah. Do it all. I've had so much nicked off me in the thing. Really? Because to grab it, but not intentionally. Oh, take those balloons next time.

22:28Lennie Ware: You've nicked me balloons. Stick them on. Yeah, dude, the weirdest thing was when we were in Warsaw in Poland. Oh, boy. broke the barrier they're amazing they're the best is that one of your biggest places yeah and the way the craziest thing was milan milan was mad right song two right song two in milan just yeah just on like gone on madness massive show and i see this little italian man walk to the side of the stage i'm like why is it i'm like i'm like you don't like you're in my fan base like You know what I mean? Like bold and, you know what I mean? Little moustache. I'm like, why is he coming on stage?

23:09All right. And he comes on stage. He's like, there's been 75 casualties and it's song two. And I'm like, because I'm like. It's not your fault. But I'm saying it's hilarious. And it's like, you have to calm them down. And he's like shouting. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm hearing screams from the front from the most incredible Italian crowd ever. Because Italian crowds are just like.

23:30Lennie Ware: I've never played. The best. like I cry every time because they just sing and it's just like what the like do you know I mean what the fuck and basically I had to calm them down because with my crowd it's like it's usually like younger girls and boys at the front who've been queuing outside for days so what's your average age of kids I don't know it's kind of it's kind of weird like I'm very much growing up with them like they're just like my family man it's like it kind of starts with 15 to 18 year olds at the front and then there's the kids beating the shit out of each other behind them and then it goes all the way back to like do they throw 60 oh no they're just laughing it's like the best crowd in the world like everyone's just like do they have older people oh completely like would i be the oldest there's literally a nan there's like there's one nan there's everyone calls a nan like the noah for all the worlds like she's on the front row every time it's a nan in the from the uk no stop i swear to god everyone calls a nan and everyone's like like man's here my family fan base call them the black arts club sells the black arts club because they're tattoos on my fingers that they get we'll go into that in a second I know so much man that's just how much of a family we are I mean it's like everyone just knows each other from different continents everyone's best friends from different continents people getting like engaged and married have you ever shagged a fan?

24:52no absolutely not Jessica that is the thing Jessica I probably

24:58Lennie Ware: Well if you're lonely on tour No And you've got this big old family It's got this crew It's weird It's like It's not like that It's very odd Do you know what I mean It's like People do ask me that a lot I just I don't No Do you know what I mean I'm just sorry Do they all look like you Everyone's got It's like a uniform I'm like I I So they've all got this red hair So they We call themselves A black arts club And I Got I was out in LA when I had like, I don't know, 7 ,000 followers on Instagram, like just been signed or something, maybe more, I don't know. And I was out with Brooklyn Beckham and Anwar Hadid for some reason.

25:40As you do. As you do. Oh, excuse me. That's what I'm saying. I had a mate who'd introduced me to Brooklyn and Brooklyn's like.

25:47Lennie Ware: Is he lovely? He's the best. He's very charming. Yeah, he's very charming. And like, he's just like British. and like we're just like talking about Ribena and football you know I mean in LA so we're like oh Doncaster Rovers I know yeah no no no it's fine I know what's your team man you is it I mean but I mean I come from Manchester but I have something saying but it's like I have a bit of a connection with Leeds United as well to my granddad's side so we're probably gonna fight yeah you're a white rose I'm a red yeah it's all right we got the best hot pot yeah but anyway Have you ever heard of Yorkshire hot pot?

26:25No, I've heard of Lancashire hot pot Oh wow My mum's hot pot's really good It's a hot pot off But yeah, it's a hot pot off But I remember getting these tattoos on my fingers One of them's broken

26:36Lennie Ware: So it's the Black Hearts Club Not Black Arts No, it is Doncaster Arts Black Arts Club And I remember getting these tattoos on my fingers And one of them's broken and one of them's full and I was just starting to get this community no matter how small it was like it was tiny but yeah so this one represents like me when I was growing up and like completely isolated feeling like an alien and I'm left-handed and I got the full heart on my second hand on my left hand because by writing I connected to him and I had a conversation with him so I got them post them online I wake up the next day 10 kids have got them Parents pissed off with young blood.

27:18Yeah, 20 kids have got him. And now apparently there's tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of black people.

27:23Lennie Ware: Have you got other tattoos? What, an elephant on my arse? Shut up. Swear to God. Sophie moons again. No, we do not, thank you very much. It's all right, man. I need to see her, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I promise you. Jessica! I don't wear underwear, to be honest. Why don't you wear underwear? Isn't it going to hurt your willy with those jeans? No, I don't. I can't look. Oh, it's a little one. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Christ. I don't know why you crack it up. But I don't want the Beckhams to have a bad influence on you. Because you know their record with tattoos. You'll have it up to here by the end.

27:57Lennie Ware: It's so funny. I kind of like... Dude, I'm such a little shit because I'm like, if people expect something of me, I won't do it. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, everyone always expects me to be covered in tarts. I'm just not going to do it. No. But you're quite pretty, actually. I hate to say it. Thanks. But you are quite lovely and you've got gorgeous eyes. My green eyes. Have you seen those eyes? Yeah, you're very handsome. You're beautiful, yeah. This is verging on sight, kind of. I feel like, Mum, you were like, you're like, I'm Jeffrey. Jesus, stop. I'm the man on the front row. No, I'm into it.

28:26I'm into it.

28:27Lennie Ware: Should we have a sausage roll? Yeah. Oh, you've got sausage rolls? We've got, yes. They're sausage rolls with. Just do you want to get those? And do you want some champagne? I'll have a bit of champagne, yeah, wow. Do you want another cup of tea? I'll have a champagne. I was warming those up for you. Here, take a plate, darling. Wow, man, what's on them? And I've got, oh, well, they're kind of good. So they are, I had them in Lincolnshire. So they're like, they've got cheese in them and mustard. And they're fucking delicious. I love that. They look fucking awesome. Wow. They're stuffed sausage rolls.

28:55Thank you so much. And sandwiches. What a, what a.

28:57Lennie Ware: And we've got cake. So. What an insane spread. So, okay. So what do you cook? When, do you cook? I'm at, do you know what? I'm actually surprisingly good. I make a banging Sunday roast. Oh, do you? I can do a Sunday dinner. and it's the hardest thing to cook. We'll come back on Sunday. We need some more. It's the hardest thing to make. It's like so much stuff to like stress out on. Because you have to juggle. If you're making a Sunday dinner, you've got to be able to like juggle because it's like all about the last five minutes making sure everything's hot and everything's together and everything's like good because you know what I mean?

29:31You don't want cold roast potatoes with like cold chicken. Like you've got to make sure everything's like out at the same time. Gravy's good. Ready to rock and roll.

29:39Lennie Ware: What's your secret? um if i'm cooking man like it's so unhealthy i put like so much fat and cream and and like salt in it do you know i mean so it's just like because my mum always said that man do you know i mean she would always just over do it and it was insane you know i mean everyone comes around like wow and then like my roast potatoes are insane so i get like beef dripping and that you know i mean what's your key to good roast potatoes um so obviously you boil the potatoes until they're like a little bit soft make sure the outsides are soft as if like young wood cooking channel no one knows this about me world exclusive girls um until the soft drain the water smash the fuck out of them just bang bang bang bang bang little bit of flour i usually put like like garlic salt flour on them garlic salt and onion salt on them that is a good idea then i get a massive baking like a deep baking tray loads of beef dripping in it it's got to be like smoky like if you put your finger on it like you cook your finger do you know what I mean like you pour your potatoes in cover it in that put them in take it out base it a bit more turn them around keep putting them in but the more smashed you can get them on the outside it makes it like go like crispy who did we talk to about who put semolina on them did Dawn French yes Dawn French put semolina yeah just like just to get the crunch brings a little crunch wow yeah I'm into it.

31:07I'll try that next time.

31:08Lennie Ware: So, okay, so that's what you'd cook. Roast. Youngblood roast. Where do you like to go out? In London, where's a good place? Where's, like, a Youngblood special food place? Where do we go for food? There's loads of food. Are you bothered about food? I love food. Okay. No, I do love food. I'm just trying to think now. I don't know if you ever stop to eat, though. I don't stop to eat. I always eat out. I literally always eat out. What did you eat last night? What day is it? What even day is it? It's Friday. What did I do last night? Oh, I had a burger last night. It was good. No, I had burger and wings from Wingman's.

31:42It was great.

31:43Lennie Ware: Where's Wingman's? I don't know about it. It's a thing on delivery. You can get it. I promise you it's like Oriental wings. It's like, ugh. And I love Chinese food. I love a Chinese takeaway. Oh, can't beat a Chinese takeaway. I haven't had a Chinese takeaway in so long. That's the thing. That's the thing about it is, right, Chinese takeaway is just not good here in London. Like, when you go home, it's... Have you been to Chinatown? Yeah, I've been to Chinatown. It's all right, but like not... So Doncaster does a better Chinese place. I swear to God, yeah. So what are you ordering in Doncaster?

32:13Lennie Ware: The thing about it... You have Chinese curry in Doncaster. Do you know we love Chinese curry? Yeah. The thing about it is, right, it's like it's your Chinese. You know what I mean? When you have your own Chinese, nothing beats it. They could be serving anything, but it's like just your Chinese. But I do like a little pasta joint. And so have you been to Lena Stores? Yes, I like Lena. Love that. It's so cute, but it was kind of funny. I went to like... I had a bit of a breakdown. so I went to Lake Como for a couple of days and then like you come, I went. How gorgeous is that? Mad, rented a house and it's so funny because all my mates, like I took my mates out and everyone's like dressed in thing.

32:47I don't change. I'm in like fucking leopard print and like spikes in Lake Como. Like we're driving on a boat and this guy's looking at me like, who just crawled out of Satan's bum hole and got on my boat, you know what I mean?

32:59Lennie Ware: But it's great, it's expensive. Then I came back and every Italian food I fucking ate, I was like, it's just shite. you're like eating Italian food in London and you're like oh god this is so good and you go to Lake Como and you come back and you're like fuck me you're imposters we went to this restaurant on the last night and I was like wow this is great like I didn't even care they did this like black garlic risotto and I've never put anything that good in my mouth really? never don't even come close and I've kissed many people

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35:26Lennie Ware: So, okay, so we ask everybody what their last supper would be. Darling, could we have a little more champagne? Oh, sorry. I love it. Me and Dom are kind of suffering here. Yeah, it's got to keep me late. Tell me secrets. So tight. So, I want to know, last supper, what's it going to be? Starter, main pudding and drink of choice. Last supper. Alright. For starter, I love Spanish food. I have prawns, prawn pill pill. Have you ever had that? Mad. Yeah, pill pill pill. On a, like, but the shittest one you can get like on a beach bar, like on, like, granny's in the kitchen and it looks like you're gonna get salmonella but you're not you know i mean you're just like nice bread to dip in yeah proper nice bread to dip in and just like just pint of lager i mean so oh man i need to tell you my story in a minute i've finished this this is the funniest fucking story ever tell us now all right fuck it i'll do my last supper in a minute right so my tour manager right jess she's a she i don't she's an incredible australian woman like with the biggest like heart but i don't know how she puts up with us like we are little shits absolute little shits on on tour so for like yes bless her shout out jess she you know i mean she's like probably listening to this embarrassed as hell because she hates any attention she's like don't take five as me ever we were in denmark and had a couple days off and you know noma it's like the best restaurant in the world right did you get a did you get a place there i mean listen yeah listen so some like i was like it's her birthday she really wants to go to this nice restaurant called Noma in Copenhagen, Denmark.

36:57It's the best restaurant in the world.

36:59Lennie Ware: Chef's table, whatever. All that shit. So I was like, all right, cool. So I get a table, right? And I'm northern as fuck, right? And it's going to be 700 quid a head and it's going to take four of us and I'm going to pay for it for a birthday. I'm like, fucking hell. Okay, well, all right. You know what I mean? Like fucking 20, you know what I mean? Whatever, 2800 quid for a table. I'm like, fuck yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to have the best steak in my life and it's going to be great. I'm gonna sit there so I'm saying to you listen this is why this story's really funny so I get there and I'm like cool I'm gonna have a fucking great steak I've been on tour for so long I'm gonna have steak and chips and they're gonna give me whatever I fucking want and lychee martinis on tap till the fucking end of time it's gonna be wicked but as I say so we pull up right we get into the side I'm like alright cool I'm like I'm going to a restaurant it's like six greenhouses but alright have you seen that film Midsommar yes do you know what I mean so I'm walking up and it's like everyone's like very fucking Viking like hello sir welcome to noma where your pleasures will be i don't know and i'm like all right nice like i'm dry in northern i'm like all right nice to meet you're fucking great so walk into noma and i'm just like cool this is a bit fucking weird in it and everyone's like i'm so excited i'm like same i can't wait to have the steak and chips and it's gonna be fucking great and it's like would you like this drink of the river to cleanse your palate i'm like i'm like i'll have it yeah I have a taste of that.

38:18It's pretty fucking weird too. And you kind of, I haven't stopped staring at me for two minutes. You know what I mean? I'm like, stop looking at me. I want to like chill. So they take us to our table and in Noma, it's like you have your own little living room and there's a fire and I'm like, okay, cool. All right, sick. We're going to sit down and it's going to be great. So the waitress comes and is like, again, welcome to Noma. And it's like some fucking, like I've gone to live with Ari Krishnas in Thailand or something. You know what I mean? And I'm like, fucking great. and it's like, okay, can I have a pint of lager and a steak and chips, please?

38:51And she's like, they bring the drinks out and she starts pouring me this drink and I'm like, sorry, can I have a pint of lager? She's like, we don't do lager, sir. I'm like, okay, right, do you have any beer or anything? She's like, no, sir. I'm like, all right. Do you want a demo? Yeah, I mean, but that's fine. I'm just like, do you know what I mean?

39:11Lennie Ware: No, they should have beer, right? I have a beer and I'm like, do you have anything? You feel like you have a glass of Prosecco? No, sir. Do you have a gin and tonic? No, sir. I'm like, what do you have? And she's like, well, we have the fruits of the forest. Like, shit. She's pouring me and I'm drinking this raspberry elderflower and fucking foxtail fucking drink. Was it alcohol? Yeah, it was alcoholic, right? And I'm drinking it and I'm like, okay, cool. But it's not what you wanted. No, it's not. It's what I'm saying to you. It's like, it's not what I wanted. So it's like, all right, cool. And I'm like, where's the menus?

39:42And Jessie's laughing at me because she's just brought fucking Devo, Devo meets Liam Gallagher into a fucking Scandinavian seance. You know what I mean? And everyone's like bringing in the light and blessing the forest. And it's game season, right? It's game season. And everyone's laughing at me. And Tom, my photographer, is quite a foodie and a bit pretentious. I love him. He's a pretentious cunt. Then there's Ed, who works at my label, who was somehow out in Denmark. I don't know why. And then Jess next to me. You wanted to go to Norway. I knew you were paying. That's what I'm saying. so it's like we're in Nome and we're eating and it's like the first dish comes out and I'm like I'm like just turning hysterically like where's the fucking menus like where's the menus I'm not I'm I'm like really and I'm anxious because everyone's like there's a person in the corner of the room looking straight forward like not even like vibing just like holding a connection holding a bottle of water and looking straight forward I'm like it literally looks like a prosthetic doll like standing there it's a bit midsummer very midsummer it's like when the when am I gonna get my bollocks cut off you know I mean in front of me and then I'm sat there and the food comes out and the first thing comes out and it's like an acorn on a plate right and it's like I'm looking at this acorn I'm like all right cool like everyone's like weird it must be just like some hippie shit before they bring out like the menu dinner maybe me dinner yeah me big nice steak do you know what I mean my big nice dinner that I'm paying 700 quid for and they do the acorn I'm like okay right I'll nibble on this acorn and everyone's just laughing what's the acorn in anything?

41:18no it's just a fucking acorn I don't know do you know what I mean it's an acorn yeah you could eat acorn oh you can eat and it's like glazed in fucking like molasses made from like Jesus Christ do you know what I mean and and and and every like Jess is like wanted to come to Noma but she's regretting it already. Because you're... No, no, she's not regretting it because of me because now I find out that she is unadventurous with food. So I'm like, okay, fine, all right, fucking hell, you don't want to eat your acorn. That's a 70 quid acorn that you just turned away. Like, I've turned mine away.

41:52And I'm sat down, it's like, cool, cool. Is there any menus coming out? It's like, the chef has decided what you're eating tonight, sir. And I'm like, as I say, like, I don't like being told what to do. How intimidating. No, it's very intimidating.

42:03Lennie Ware: See, I love that. but I hate it I'm definitely with the yeah and I'm just like alright cool like is there going to be any like meat and shit like oh yes sir yes we use every part of our animals and I get it because it's like good and it's good and sorry to sorry to any of the vegan fans I mean but this was just Noma and then they bring out duck's brain no they didn't duck like gland from the brain and I'm like and I'm like, like looking at the waitress, like I'm like helpless, like I'm like, imagine me walking through the desert for seven days without water and I see you and I'm like, do you have any water?

42:45I'm like, do you have any fucking thing normal for me? Do you have anything possibly normal? And then the main event comes out and it's like our good old friend, Donald Duck. but this time it's the face of of the duck like the face right like and it's and i'm sat there and donald duck is looking at me in the face going don't eat me don't eat me because my child is

43:11Lennie Ware: across you've been on the disney channel yeah that's what i'm saying to you all right so i'm looking at fucking donald duck right now and then i'm like okay why is there ducks like i'm not gonna eat a beak it's not even cooked and then one of the midsummer characters walked around the corner and lifts up the duck's head. Oh my God, this is like Indiana Temple of Doom. It's a Temple of fucking Doom shit, right? Yes! And people pay 700 quid each for this, right? I would not do that. That's what I'm saying. So it's like lift it off, lift it off, and it's like inside the head is duck's heart tartare.

43:41Right? And Jess is laughing now because she's not eating anything either. She's like not eating absolutely. I would actually vomit. That's what I'm saying. Tom, my pretentious photographer, is fucking eating everyone's fucking food. And I'm like, I hope you're, I like, you're not getting a fucking birthday present this year.

43:57Lennie Ware: And it was small portions. Small portions, small portions, right? And then like, after that, we have a palate cleanser and it's peppermint ice cream. And I was like, fuck yeah, all right, I'm into this. Best peppermint ice cream in my life. And in theory, I paid two and a half grand for peppermint ice cream and then went for a Chinese afterwards. I had someone call, I was like, it's 11 p.m. I need you to find me a Chinese takeaway. And I'm pretty placid, but I was pissed off. You know what I mean? I was like, I was like. I hate pretensions. It was, I mean, and it was fine. I'm sorry, Jessie. I'm so desperate to go, this is the best entertainment.

44:31Do you know what? Not in a bad way, not in a bad way, right? Like with it, yeah, great. If you're into that shit, but I'm from Donny, man. You know what I mean? I just wanted a pint of lager and some steaks. If I go to a nice restaurant, do you know what I mean? If you go to Chilton Firehouse on a Friday night, I'm like, I'll have the cheapest lager you've got. Do you know what I mean? I just see who I am. And I love good food and I love it, but.

44:52Lennie Ware: Yeah. I just like good, like, you know what I mean? I don't like all the bells and whistles. Do you want to get your cake? I'm really worried about the cake. I'm into the cake. Okay, so just so I explained to you, Dom, I don't have a kitchen at the moment, so I have this really mini oven that it can roast a chicken and it can bake a cake, but the timings are a bit off, so fuck knows if it's worked. But, I mean, it's sweet. But, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't mind, and it's all right, because if this cake's shy, on the next podcast, if someone else I do, I'll be telling the Noma story, are you?

45:24Lennie Ware: No, you can't do that. I won't, I won't, I won't. Because I feel we've connected. I'm going to get those tattoos. Flat out. Black arts. I'm into your black arts, man. Black arts club, Nantoo.

45:40Lennie Ware: Okay, so we're back to the main. Yeah. The main of your last supper. Sorry about the lumps. Sorry, yeah. So in hindsight, the main of my last supper ain't Donald Duck. But with a tartare, it's probably steak and chips. Okay. But like good steak and chips. How do you do it? Well done, rare. Yeah, I like ribeye. I had Kobe once, which was insane. You know what I mean? And then just ribeye steak. Usually, if I can get a Wagyu, be proper bougie, I'll do that. You know what I mean? Cook medium. And then bougie. Bougie's like kind of like. It's like when you want to go to Nobu for your birthday. Yeah, if you want to splash out, do you know what I mean?

46:22Like, you know, when you have, like, you know what I mean? Like, nice things.

46:26Lennie Ware: Okay, so pudding. What's pudding? What pudding? Probably banoffee pie. Ooh. Banoffee pie to the moon. Right, here we go. Ready? Moment of truth. Yeah, it's all right. It's good. It's soft in the middle. I'm into it. Yeah. Absolutely into it. It's an olive oil cake. I forgot to tell you, I'm allergic to olives. What? I'm joking. him.

46:51Lennie Ware: So pudding, banoffee pie, does your mum make a banoffee pie? Me, me mum makes a good banoffee pie. Me ex-girlfriend made a great banoffee pie. Who's your ex-girlfriend? She's a pop star. Who? Yeah, she makes a great banoffee pie. Does she? She makes an insane banoffee pie. This is lovely. Like not even, not even capping to you. Like she like. Is she a good cook? Like probably one of the best cooks. Why did you finish with her then? We're just like, we're kind of better mates, to be honest. I mean, I think it was like, it was amazing, but like things, you know what I mean? We just realised we loved each other, but like in a different way, you know what I mean?

47:24Lennie Ware: Do you like you going out with anyone else? Not really. Like at the minute, doing the album, you know what I mean? In COVID time, you know what I mean? So your drink of choice would be lager, right? Probably a pint of lager, yeah. Which one? I like Camden L's. I like Foster's. Everyone thinks I'm a like traitor for saying Foster's. It's what I grew up on. so I'd wait out the shop and be like hello mate, will you go in the shop and get me out? Who are your style icons? Oh, style icons, good, I'm glad you asked. It's got to be a Gallagher brother. I love Liam. I mean, both of them. He had incredible style.

47:59Lennie Ware: Have you ever met them? No, actually. I'm obsessed with them. I'm really good mates with Aeneas, Noel's daughter. You might wink at me. The Daily Mail think we're dating. Every time we see each other, it's like are they dating it's like absolutely not she's like my sister um but they were massively inspirational to my life you know i mean like built a culture but then i love like marilyn manson and david bowen lady gaga vivian obsessed with vivian west she lives around here don't she yeah she does in clapham how do you know this i'm a fan of vivian westwood i'm a psycho fan of Vivian Westwood.

48:36Lennie Ware: You just announced your tour, didn't you? So, yeah, I did. For next fall. And you're doing arenas? Dude, like, in some markets, yeah. Muscle tour. Dublin, Dublin, London. Is there a feeling, okay, because everything is going so well, and that thing of... Do you get worried? But, you know, you sell out everything. The thing about it is... Are you superstitious? Yeah, the thing about it is, it's just like, of course, man, I get, like, scared, and I, like, every day it's always about them. Like, Youngblood ain't me. That's one thing I want to say. Youngblood is us. Like, it's a culture of people who came together because they didn't belong somewhere.

49:19You know what I mean? So I don't ever get scared that it's going to go away because it's too special. Do you know what I mean? It's too, we connect too much. The stories I've heard and been told just kind of turn my world inside out. I mean, we're so connected to them. But every day I kind of want it to get bigger and reach more people because I know there's a lot of people out there who feel like it's not all right to be who they are. Do you know what I mean? So it's just like, got to keep pushing that, you know?

49:44Lennie Ware: What's your karaoke song? Karaoke song. Oh, it's going to be Bloody Oasis. It's actually controversially, Girls and Boys Blur. Oh, I can so imagine you doing that. Yeah. They will never speak to you, those Gallagher boys. Oh, they're all right. It's all bollocks, isn't it? Is it? Yeah, it's all bollocks. So they like Damon Alb? Probably, yeah. Okay. Have you got good table manners? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think so. I swear too much. You haven't eaten much. I'm just like... What are you doing this evening? I'm probably going for a pint with my mate, I think. James? No, his name's Isaac. He's Jewish, actually, from Highgate.

50:20Is he? Nice kid, actually. Tell you what, going round to Mrs. Grin's for a Friday night dinner. Aww. The fucking matzo balls and shit. Come on. Bro, mad for it. You did that last Friday. Oh, I love it, man. Let me come round for a Friday night dinner.

50:34Lennie Ware: But you can, but you came too early. I'm down, innit? It's like what I'm saying. Matzo balls are the best thing on earth. Matzo balls soup. Oh, mommy. It's great. We'll give you our cookbook and it's got the recipe. Oh, I love it, man. Dom, you are a pleasure to be with. Bro, thank you so much. I couldn't wait for this. I was buzzing. Cheered us up. Really cheered us up. Yeah, thank you so much for coming over. Thank you so much. I don't need to wish you luck with the tour because you'll sell it out. I mean touchwood I just can't wait for Lenny to come to a show to see how it all works to see the black arts club get the black arts club out thank you have a lovely weekend and have a great time at Noma when you go give my regards to Donald Duck

51:32Lennie Ware: That was Youngblood on Second Helpings, talking about Hobnobs, Yorkshire Tea and his mum's Doncaster Cake Shop, Jaffa and Cakes. And also, you know, the Black Hearts Club, which he's continued to love and nurture. And he now has his Bloodfest festival, which he's just done his biggest Bloodfest ever. Does he spell it B-L-U-D? Yes. He's amazing. There was a really powerful video of him recently, sobbing on stage and then he wrote a note on instagram saying that that reaction was due to him just having actually quite a tough time i think he's a really remarkable bloke and i love him and i think he's kind and talented and brilliant and is a rock star and we don't get many of them anymore and he told us the best story about noma i hope you did get your steak and chips somewhere else babe in copenhagen just you're brilliant dom keep doing what you're doing and thank you for coming on the podcast.

52:31Lennie Ware: I'd have Youngblood back, actually. I feel like it's been six years. Maybe it's time to get Youngblood back. There's a few people I'd like back. Okay, we'll discuss. That was Youngblood on Second Helpings 2026. And we'll see you next week for more Second Helpings.

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