Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco

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2:06Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here sitting in a New York apartment with my mum and our wonderful friend Jake Cohen. So if you've been listening to the podcast for a while we had Jake Cohen on a few months ago and he said you should come to New York. I can sort you out with some guests and we took him up on that offer and he's absolutely delivered and then I thought well I'm going to take it one step further and actually Jake can you help us with the cooking because we don't actually have a kitchen and you're a great chef so this could really help us and keep mum and my relationship solid i prefer him it's my cooking come maybe we should table manners lenny and jake cohen from now am i getting beat it out of my own yeah wow that's so logan roy of you yeah so we're kicking off with a big one it's a friend of mine who you may have listened to on the podcast before because he is our most regular guest this will be his hat trick is Mr.

2:59Benny Blanco and his new fiancée, a lovely girl called Selena Gomez. So what's on the menu, Lenny? So we've, I've made, we've made an onion quiche. I think the last time we did this was with another pop star, Carly Rae Jepsen. So we've got the onion quiche that we're going to serve with some griddled asparagus and some herb salad. A herb salad. Yes. And then, Jake, what have we got for Pud? For Pud, I was like, Benny, what should I make? what does Selena love? And he's like, she loves tiramisu. And so in the new book, Dinner Party Animal, I do this thing, tiramisu cake. So you make just a giant espresso sponge cake, poke holes, pour in the syrup and let it soak and then top it with this mascarpone cream and then you just like scoop it out.

3:43So it's like a delicious spoon cake. It's honestly, it's closer to what I would. You call it a spoon cake? Sort of. Because you just like spoon, you don't like slice it, you just like scoop it. So instead of like ladies fingers, like you do a sponge. Exactly. Delicious.

4:03We've made our way from Jake's house to downtown. Actually, are we downtown? I don't know if we are downtown. We're at the Standard High Line. We're in the Boom Bar, which is on the 17th floor of the Standard High Line. And it's booming. And there's about three different parties going on here. But we have an iconic room that actually I've sung in before. Have you? Yeah. So we are here and the standard Highline has kindly let us record. It's a beautiful room. It is a stunning room. There's a grand piano. We're by a fire pit. It's famous. Madonna's performed in here. Has she? Jessie Ware's performed in here.

4:45Has she? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it pops off as we found out last night. So we're waiting for Benny. We're waiting for Selena. We're waiting for Jake, who, bless him, when he's not helping us in the kitchen, he's biking downtown to shave some chocolate on his tiramisu cake. Zhuge up the salad. Zhuge up the salad. And I'm loving New York so far. Yeah, me too. We have Benny Blanco and Selena Gomez coming on as Table Manners takes Manhattan.

5:25Selena and Benny, welcome to the Boom Boom Room at the Standard Highline. Hey. Hey. We can cut this out, but where's your Boom Boom Room? Same. You're not. It's a secret. Where's your Boom Boom Room? Too shame. Anywhere I'm allowed. Okay, so, Benny, this is your third time. However, we've actually never done it. well this is still not exactly how we do it however you've brought your fiance with you which I'm thrilled about it's the worst word in the world it's so strange it's so strange so how do you describe him I just say my partner or Benny you said fiance last night yeah you did but the other day I catch myself saying well my boyfriend and I'm like wait it's not quite why we're there but you say my wife yeah I say my wife I definitely have said you're my husband I say my wife I usually say my husband Selena no you don't who wears the trousers guys both I mean I think we're pretty equal yes I think I probably need a little more but so we've we're gonna kind of go back and forth because we've got a couple and also we have to shout out that Jake Owen is here in the background which actually you know he will be coming on the mic and he actually lives at the boom boom

6:50And then we also have Sandy, who's Benny's mum. The gorgeous Sandy. The gorgeous Sandy, who we'll get on mic soon. But can we take it back to dinner around the table, the family dinner around the table? Selina, can you paint a picture for us? Who was around the dinner table and what were you eating? You know, my parents split up, so my mum's side is very much about southern cooking and warm and like basically not the healthiest, but it's the best tasting. And then my dad's side, um, we're Mexican. So I grew up with every kind of, well, only specifically my grandma's food. So I remember it was, it was really special when we would get the chance to do it.

7:36My mom was in high school working jobs and, but I, I remember my grandparents, you know, always like being there. and then I got older and we added Gracie, my little sister, and now it's lovely. What recipe of your grandma's would you always take with you? What is her best recipe? Her chicken and dumplings. Oh, wow. And now it's a southern kind, so it's not necessarily because I think there's many different versions, but it's so yummy and it's basically biscuits and you put it in like this chicken broth and then you add a little bit of cream and it's just her recipe is so, it's the best. That's how she tried to get me.

8:17Is that how she, that's how she tried to get me. It's better when it's like fresh. That's how she tried to get me. Did you cook for her? No, well yes, I worked with my Nana and we did, I wanted to make it really good and I forgot, this is so embarrassing, I didn't realize, should have, that he had cameras outside his house. So I, in the rain, made, I drove and I made my friend run out and give him soup, like in the corner and then we ran away and he was like did you but he told me later he's like you know i saw a video of you and no first of all first of all so selena is so insane that when we first started going out on dates she's so obsessed with like being on time she used to pull up to my house you you were both early today respect we love yes thank you very much She used to pull up to my house minimum 20 minutes early, maybe 30 minutes early.

9:13And she would wait outside, but she didn't realize that my cameras could see like down the street. And her car would just be parked outside for like 30 minutes. And she would just wait until it was time to come in. I know. I don't think we've ever said that out loud to anyone, but it's so funny. It's just, I don't know. I was nervous and I really liked him. and I wanted to get there and maybe call a friend to pump me up or do my makeup again or something. I don't know. But you'd known him a long time before you started dating. Correct. I mean, we were how old? I don't know. Correct. He was 16, right, when you first met?

9:47She met me when she was like 16, 17. And I'm not good at math. I don't even know. I was probably 21 or something. And neither one of us remember that time. The first meeting was so long. We don't remember. And then, yeah, we started working over the years. But we really, like, I feel like every, like, 20th time I would see her, I'd be like, hey, I'd be like, that Selena girl's pretty cool. Like, every single time. What's happening now? Oh, now you're talking. Oh, wait. Don't worry. You don't have to drink. These are for Lenny. Wait. Both of them. Wait, wait, wait. Cosmo. Do you want one? I would like it.

10:25Do you want it? Yeah. I'll just taste it. Just have them. Take them. We'll split this one. Me and her, I'll split it. Two more, darling. Here. It matches your jacket. Give it to her. No. Give it to her. Okay. Lenny's favorite, especially when in Rome. She thinks she's Carrie Bradshaw, so she orders Cosmos. She's the only person who orders Cosmos. I actually love Cosmos. Lenny, you look so stunning to me. You're shocked. No, I swear. I swear. She's such a schmoozer. No, no, I swear. I swear. No, I swear. You're like tanned. You like have, I don't know. There's something about it. It's a glow of it.

10:59You look great. It's like in here. Like you deserve to be in the boom boomer. Thank you, darling. She looks so like beautiful and also looks like I'm like at the same time at a job interview. And she's like, but like for like, but for like, but for like the best, like HR at like JP Morgan or something. And she's like really asking me. She's you're the worst HR person. I'll ask you, where did you go? Your first proper date. Where did you go for dinner? It was. Okay. I didn't know we were on a date okay she asked me to hang out and then I happened to be going to a thing he's always got a thing hasn't he well yes but you also were the first to say let's hang out soon yeah I didn't mean like I was like yeah let's hang out soon and then she was like cool and then I'm just trying to make myself look cooler no but I think it was so cool because I, okay, so I had no idea.

12:01And it was one of my friends was having like a birthday dinner at Jitlada, which is like an amazing Thai restaurant. This lady jazz has been running it forever. It's been open over 40 years. It's incredible. Anthony Bourdain's favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's unreal. So we go, first we went to stir crazy. And this is what I want to interject. My sister texts me going, is Benny going out with Selena Gomez? And I was like, eh? I was like, oh no, they're just, they work together. Like that's probably what it was. She was like, I've just seen him in a wine bar. That was our second. But we went there the first time too.

12:40Cause I was like, I was like, where can we go where there's like, gonna be like no one that will really see. Yeah. And it was like, really, it was like, it's really quiet. It's my friend, Harley's place. It's like a beautiful wine bar. That's like so cute. And we went and I remember we're talking and she says, well, I would have worn something different or something about a date. And I was like, we're on a date? How many people were with you? Because whenever you go out with Benny, there's 25 people. It was just me and her at drinks. They were just there for the wines together. Wow. Because I was like, oh, shit.

13:14I was like, I was like. And you didn't know it was a date, Benny. No, in my head, I said this. In my head, I said, in my head, I was like, oh, we'll just grab a drink before. because I know that she's a shy person. And I was like, let's just get a drink before we go meet a bunch of people she doesn't know. I really wasn't thinking at all because I was just, I don't know. I was just like, yeah, she's my, I never thought of her like that. God, how could you? I mean, I was like, just go in the world. Either one of us did. We were always in relationships. So you're at the date that you don't think is a date, but then you realize there's a date because Celina has the balls to say something.

13:54I didn't really realize until our second date. So basically what happened was I thought we were just having fun as friends and stuff. And she was at the dinner. And then she was like, I have to leave. And I was like, okay. And she was like, yeah, yeah, I have a video tomorrow morning. And I was like, okay. And it was like so sudden. And I was like, oh, maybe she just has to leave. And then I think maybe she was a little nervous or something. And then she texted me after and she was like, that was the most fun I've had. And she wrote a whole thing afterwards. words and then we hang one was it like the next day i don't know it gets cloudy it's just so funny because his casual hang felt very much like a date could you tell he fancied you no i didn't i didn't think that but when i first went to his house christian shout out to christian security yeah um said oh he's in the backyard just go this way so i'm walking through this beautiful garden of like vegetables and all this stuff and then he's just sitting there by the pool on the phone And I was like, oh, I was like, I have a little butterfly.

14:54And I like walked over and I sat down and he ended his call. And we talked for a little bit. And I remember just sitting there like, why am I so nervous? I just feel really nervous. And then we get in his beautiful car, which is what from what? Oh, yeah. We had a I have my old car because it was like one of the first nice days. It was so nice. And I was driving it. And she said I was a shitty driver and which I am. and she happens. I've never seen you do that. She happens to maybe be worse. Oh, okay. We're both equally terrible. She might be a little better than me. But it was just, it felt so sweet with being in this like convertible in the wind.

15:33This sounds so dating. He takes you to a wine bar that's quiet yet he's walking and going, hey Jeff, hey Jo, hey this. So like say hi to everyone and I'm like, I don't know what's happening. But I liked him. Yeah, I definitely, definitely did. Yes, Benny? Second date is when I really was like Did you start to get Excited and anxious then I'm not really like an anxious type of person With the most gorgeous woman I never have been I'm anxious I'm anxious in times where you're not supposed to be anxious And I'm totally calm and collected In like any time where you should be anxious So we were hanging On our second date And I don't even remember what did we cook or I don't know what we did but towards the end of the date we were just sitting in the living room on the couch and um we were playing we're not really strangers um and there was a thing where it said take a selfie um with the person next to you and she we were already kind of like lounging and she got right on my chest and took a selfie and then right after I just looked at her and I said I gotta kiss this girl and I kissed her right away and good kiss can I say something can I say something

17:04right away she was like her heart started beating so quickly and she started getting a rash on her face and she was so nervous she wasn't allergic to you I was so disgusting and repulsive. No, she was so nervous and hadn't... I hadn't liked anyone in a very long time. So some kisses are for fun. And then when you feel something behind a kiss, it's completely different. And I'd been alone for about five years, with the exception of a few shitty dates here and there, but never felt that way. And I was a little embarrassed, but he was like, are you okay? and I was like, no, no, I'm fine. I didn't want to be like, I like you.

17:50I really like you. So do you take Benadryl? I'm only with Benny. No, it was... Benadryl? Yeah. No, it happened. It happened right again, right afterwards. And no, it was just like right after that, we just started to hang out so much and it felt so natural. And it felt like, you know when people, this is so corny. You know when people say. You're going to be corny. You know when people are like, when you know, you know. And, you know, I probably like in my life was like thought when I was younger, like, oh, this could be the, but there was just a feeling that I never had before where I said I've never felt so comfortable yet so on my toes at the same time.

18:43Every day I was with her, I was so excited for what was going to happen but also so at ease with everything. Anytime I'm feeling anxious, she knows how to calm me down. But if anytime I'm revved up, she can match my energy. And I was like, wow, I really truly met my soulmate. And it's so stupid. No, it's cute. But it's amazing. I love the sappy side. How do you manage because you're away? Selena's filming at the minute and you can't be together. Is that why you made a record together? So you could just hang in the same room? Honestly, it's part of the reason. It is part. It's actually crazy. We always find our ways of doing it.

19:28You know, I've been here the last month and a half. And then she's coming back to L.A. for a week. And then it's like, her cutoff is usually like three weeks. After three weeks, if it makes it to four weeks, I might be in the newspaper. Yeah, it might be the end of me if it makes it to four weeks. No, it's just so hard. I mean, I don't think it is typical. But what I do love about the distance is it does make us miss each other and cherish the time we have together. but two weeks is like ideal. But if I'm being really honest, it's like two days and then I get really sad. No, she's crazy. So you're on the phone constantly on that.

20:11Yeah, we text a lot. Yeah. While I'm working, it's harder to... I always just check in. Like, it's so easy to be like a good partner. It's so, like, people fuck up so much. It's crazy. I'm just like, if I have a second, I'm like, I'm going to call for one second and just be like, hey, babe, you're beautiful. I love you. I love that Benny Blanco, and you are a wonderful human being, but I love that all my algorithms at the moment are you telling everyone how to be a better boyfriend. It's literally everything that comes up. I'm like, oh my God, have a word with Sam. Well, I will say that everything that comes out of his mouth is a thousand percent real.

20:55he's so sweet and he's taught me so much about how to handle situations differently and just taught me a lot about life and introduced me to beautiful people like you guys and I'm just so I don't know this has definitely been like the best you better stop Lenny I got a question for you I know you don't go out on him a lot but give me your perfect if you could, in your head, you're dreaming about your perfect first date and it can't be Jon Hamm. I was just going to say, Jon Hamm at the Carlisle. Is that a problem? What are you doing for your first date? It can be Jon Hamm. I'm going to drink Cosmopolitan's at the Carlisle.

21:38Because I love the Carlisle. I love the Carlisle. Do you like it as well? It's her favorite thing. What's your order there, Selena? Oh, I just keep it simple. It's a nice martini with a twist. Oh, thank God. Do you gin or vodka? Yeah, vodka. I eat all the Speaking of which Thank you Christian You know I love a martini I love that we were all like We're just gonna have tea And now look at us What is the I'm trying to do everything This is an incredible martini Is it? Yeah it's very good So it's filthy enough Yeah So that No that I can't do You can't do the olives The olives You like it just lemon I love olives I want Just like a lemon twist I want a hundred olives Okay I like olives Okay I've got to get into like Some food Benny Sandy's here Sandy's here so I need to know.

22:23Sandy, cooking. No, it's fine. Like, not a big cook. I had the same rotation every week. Okay, start. Chicken quesadillas, lasagna, pasta and shrimp. I think that's how it's right. That's not exciting than I cook. Eggs. You used to open the refrigerator and say eggs again. Quiche. I did make quiche. How's chicken soup? No, no. No? Okay. No, my mother-in-law had a deli so she made the best. Okay. Okay, here's the best part about my mother, okay? We grew up in a really diverse area where there was all different types of great food. Virginia. Yeah, yeah. It was like a melting pot. So my mom introduced me to so many different types of food when I was younger.

23:11Mr. Kebab every week. Mr. Kebab. Yep, we would get one kebab and we'd split it for like three days. The last two days. Yeah, like my mom was very, you know. Brugal. Yes, very frugal. And she just taught me about, you know, great food. And it helped me learn, like, yeah, I love going to like a 20 course omakase. But then I also like find a sushi place where they make it for you. and but at the same time I love going to like a hole in the wall where you can tell like a family has like been passing these recipes down for generations and she showed me all about that as you know most kids are eating like lunchables at a kid as a kid we were eating like you know vindaloo's and and and shawarma and when I was when I was a kid or when I before I was born She traveled to, you were in Mexico, and she was eating so much spicy food, so she thinks that's why I love spicy food so much.

24:16When I was pregnant, I ate it. When you were pregnant? Did you? Do you like Mexican food? I do, yeah. I definitely grew up around it. Yeah, but it is, you know, we've talked about it. It's my grandma. I think it's because of her recipes. There's many different styles of, you know, Spanish foods. and it just, for me, the basics that my grandma... Every morning. Every morning? She wants the same thing. I always want like a soft taco or like cheese and chips. Or tamales. Or tamales. Am I allowed to say this? That Benny has pre-made frozen burritos for you in the freezer, which I think is the sweetest boyfriend.

25:00It is so nice. Yeah, I make her everything. He pre-makes them so she's always got her burrito. I love a burrito. Just simple hot sauce. She's like the cheapest date. Yeah. Her favorite things in the world are like, she likes like a corn dog in Benihana. It's like she's very. What is a corn dog? I don't really know what it is. It's fried with yellow crust. You know what I feel like it is? It's like a pancake. It's like a pancake over a weenie. A weenie. What's a weenie? A weenie, darling. Is it like a Frankfurt? So you know how you have sausage roll? Yeah. Okay, so imagine if the outside was like a pancake and fried.

25:49It's so young. Her favorite things are like that. She loves fried pickles. Fried pickles. Yeah. She's from the South. This leads me on to, is there any... Pickles snow cone she loves. What's pickles? Oh, pickles. Well, this was on Jimmy Fallon, wasn't it? What's a pickle smoke-em? I definitely have a love for pickles. I always have my whole life. I don't know what it is. She'll eat a whole jar. Well, I love, and every type. So I'm not just like a girl that's like, oh, sour. I love bread and butter. I love spicy. I love them all. They're just so yummy. Do you think you're food-wise compatible? Of course.

26:29You think? First of all, no one likes a bread and butter pickle. It's crazy. It's the disgusting sweetness. Oh, I love them. I like them. The ones that you get in a McDonald's burger? No, that's a half dill or a sour dill. Oh, relish is different. I'm down for relish. What's that? Bread and butter is like a sweet, weird, strange pickle. I prefer a full sour or a half sour. What do you call them? like dill dill a new green I love do you remember Crossing Delancey that film where he makes pickles and he has to wash oh yeah yeah yeah yes yes what was that pickle then you like more cucumber yeah cucumber yeah yeah oh those are those are very refreshing yeah yeah yeah I like every I love pickles so where have you enjoyed this time in New York mmm okay our friend Ben just opened this place Bubabarecas and it is delicious delicious delicious insane for those of you who don't know what a bereca is it's like basically it kind of is like a large spinacopita almost yeah and it's it's like feet it's like a filo dough and it has like seeds on top and it usually comes with like a hard-boiled egg and some sugu and it's like have no idea what you're saying i made it up um we ate uh we loved that and then i had a sushi meal that was unreal.

27:59It was one of the best sushi meals I've ever had. It's called Sushi Show. Okay. Was it about$1 ,000? Yes. It was very expensive. It was like a once-in-a-lifetime meal. Like, they brought out, you would hate it. I would hate it. They brought out a vegetable and then, like, rice that they had been fermenting for six years. And it tasted like a Parmesan cheese. Like, the rice tasted like cheese. Because it was feted. Basically, yeah. But it was so interesting and awesome. I mean, I want to go to Barney Greengrass and have a Barney Greengrass. What's Barney Greengrass? It's been around for 150 years.

28:38What is it? It's the best lox and bagel. Let's go on Tuesday. Oh, you have to. It's like Russ and Daughters. It's the end to the end. Is it uptown or downtown? It's uptown. Okay. It's insane. What are the lox like? It's delicious. They have all different types. They have pastrami. They have kippur, salmon. They have everything. Oh, my God. There's a place called Coat. It's like a very fancy Korean barbecue. very good. Selena, do you like these? I do. The reason why I can't comment is because once I find two places I actually like I stick to them. I'm very weird. There's this restaurant called Cassie Lever and it's really I love the pasta there.

29:18It's one of my favorite spots. Which one? Actually all of them. I order like four of them and just eat them because their portions are very yeah but their portions are actually very small what's it like on set what's the food like uh it's very difficult to eat healthy yeah is it because i've been every now and then i want a bag of chips and i want to like all of that's accessible i've eaten so many grilled cheese what's this jake cohen is coming in yeah jake could we could we shine show a muscle in the Can we just do one little flex of the muscle? Wait, did you guys make this? Yeah, we made that.

30:01Do you want to know when Jake made the pastry? I'd like to know. I mean, Lenny was like, I can't serve Benny store-bought pastry. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll make the pie now. But I needed to chill and I wasn't sure because I have this tendency, especially when I did the podcast, when I did Table Matters, I overslept because I was partying and luckily I had made everything in advance and now I learned to have everything done. So I got back in the club at like 5am and just made the dough. 5am done. Okay, so what we've got is a quiche from our cookbook, which is an onion quiche that mum and Jake made.

30:38I had nothing to do with it because I was a diner with you two. And then we've got a Caesar salad, which we made some asparagus for it and then they kind of, they gave us a Caesar salad. So we've got that and then we've got some pud after. That's going to be a tiramisu. Oh. This smells delicious, Mom. I hope so. I am so excited. It looks so good. You know, my mom's second favorite food is quiche. I know my mother's death row meals by heart. I think I know hers and my mother's. Okay, I'd like, this is a little Mr. and Mrs. pre the wedding. You are going to guess Selena Gomez's last supper, and let's see if you get it right, Benny.

31:13You will. Am I guessing my mom's first or hers? Oh, Sophie's choice. I'll do both. my mom's is very easy my mom wants a fully loaded baked potato she wants a steak and she wants uh maybe a little bit of lobster if she could have it and she wants cream spinach oh and uh that's her that's like her her uh her dinner for sure and if she was having breakfast she'd probably have quiche quiche is one of her favorite things in the world do you have it for breakfast yeah in America you have it for breakfast. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Does anybody want some here? Wait, y 'all, this is like every day for dinner even?

31:53I feel like it's more of a lunch thing for us. Oh, okay. It's just like brunch. It's just brunch for breakfast. Is it? Okay. Okay, for Selena. Wait, was I right, Mom? Correct. Sandy is nodding. Benny, are you hungry? I would love some of that. I would like a little piece. Oh, wow, this looks good. Hold on. I'm going to do a taste test. Okay, all right. We'll really see if you're the real deal. And he's very intimidating, Tickok. Oh my God. It's delicious. Oh my God. This is unreal. Okay, Benny, hit me with Selena's Last Supper. See, the one thing about Selena is she wants a taste of every single thing.

32:32She doesn't want one meal. She wants a bite. Picky bits. Of a million things. Here are all the things she wants. Right. She wants my steak specifically. Why? What's so special about your steak? She just likes it. I like steak. What cut is there? Which cut? Are you cooking it? I do like a ribeye, and then I usually smoke it low for a long time, and then I sear it at the end. So I smoke it in a smoker for like an hour. Why? Because it makes it taste so like meaty and smoke. It tastes almost like barbecue. It's delicious. Mom can attest to. She loves it. she wants she wants that she also wants one of her grandmothers a little teeny bit of her rice and she wants a little teeny bit of a tamale from her grandmother tell me about the rice well it's my favorite and I've yet to meet anyone who's been able to make it quite the way that she did Benny's gonna try to experiment and we'll figure it out but there isn't sometimes there's certain things that just your family knows it's quite simple it's a spanish rice but a lot of different uh different parts of like spanish food it could be yellow rice it could be like white with like some stuff in it and this is very much like a perfect orange it's like a perfect orange with carrots and peas and i don't even know she grinds the spices all this stuff that i wish i would have taken in before she passed, but she did write it down, so I just need to figure out how to make it, but it's so delicious.

34:17It's just a family thing. Here's what else she wants. Okay. She wants a little bit of her mom's cheesy potatoes. Yeah, I love those. So she actually, we're from the South, so we make everything just how pure, like it should be. So for the cheesy potatoes, she would get a Potatoes O 'Brien, you know those they're cubed they're like cubed potatoes and they have red peppers and a little green pepper in the mix so she puts that in a bowl she does like a cream of chicken cream of mushroom and then she'll like mix it all together with cheese and then she'll sit there and just put tons of cheese as she's like mixing it and then when you bake it and it's like perfection There's more.

35:08Okay. Oh, there's more. She wants one bite of Nana's chicken and dumpling. Yeah. She wants... Is this your Nana that's passed away? No, no. Okay. My grandma... I called my dad's mom grandma, and my Nana's my mom's. Okay. She wants one piece of salmon sushi with sesame seeds on top and a dip in the soy sauce. She wants that. One piece. She's going to want one piece because she's going to be eating a bunch. She wants She also So far, Selena, is she getting this correct? I mean, yeah, but it's also like Pick one These are all the things you want I knew if you had it your way And it was your last supper I know exactly She's also going to want This is crazy, but this is what she's going to want She's going to want a Mexican pizza From Taco Bell And what she's going to want It's also my mom's favorite thing It's so good.

36:05She wants a vegetarian Mexican pizza. But by the time they deliver it to you, it's not as crunchy. It's not as crunchy. And the outside bit is crunchy. So she eats just the outside bit around the whole thing. It's so yummy. It's basically crispy tortilla, beans, cheese, another crispy tortilla. Then they put this wonderful sauce on it and cut it into four pieces so it looks like a pizza. And this is from a chain. Yeah, from a chain. Chocolate bell. She also would love a bite of movie theater nachos. The stuff that's not even cheese. The stuff that just comes out. That's jerky stuff. And she wants pickled jalapenos with the juice so she can mix a little bit of the juice with the chip.

36:49And she wants a Coke slushie. Would you try a pickle in there like Duelita? You probably did. No. I've never tried it. I wouldn't be opposed to it. I feel like it's going to be on the street. I did pickles with grape Kool-Aid sprinkled on top. Cheapest date. I'm just processing pickles with grape juice. No, it's... Grape soda. No, do you guys have Kool-Aid? Kool-Aid. No. Kool-Aid is... Do I have Kool-Aid? Is it like Gatorade? No. No, it's orange squash. It's squash. Okay, got it. Yeah, so you put the packet in. Yeah, okay. So when I'd have a pickle ice cone, you put a little bit of that powder on, And the grape with the pickle bite is...

37:33It's actually great. Did you create this invention? No. Southern. You know what's funny is actually this is a big Texas thing in a lot of southern states. But when you go to the movies, they would have a barrel of pickles. So I would always have a pickle and popcorn. They have pickles at the table? I love that. Every theater. Every theater. The drive-ins. All the places. Do they have them here? No. I went to LA. I moved there. and every theater we went to, I was like, surely that was just one theater. That doesn't do it. Then by the third time I went to the theater, I said, do you guys not have pickles?

38:09Because they'd always look at me like, what are you talking about? And it's so weird because I'm telling you, the pickle with popcorn, the salty and sour is just so yummy. I don't know. It's such a tradition. But here's, I'm going to go back to my fried pickles really quick. Yeah, please do. I have yet to ever have a fried pickle that I have loved more than Hooters. Hooters is like a bar where the girls wear the cute tops. Is that in L.A.? It's everywhere. You could work there. Lani, let's get you on. Did we go there? We? No. No, it was Hooters. No, no. No, but I wish that I could take him once because I want him to recreate.

38:57I'm sure he'd love to go to Hooters with you, Selina. I mean, that's what my dad did, and he was single, so he'd take me there. All the waiters thought I was cute. I would draw pictures, and he'd be like, hey. Oh, my gosh. And you loved the pickles, the fried pickles. But they were, just because they're perfect, I don't know how to explain it, but people do the whole pickle fried, and, like, that's not it. It's these thin little slices, and it's very thin. It's got a Hooters. Selina, I need to know, who's a better cook? I've watched some of your Selina and Chef. Yeah. The entire point of my show is that I don't know.

39:29But people say this to me all the time. They're like, oh, you must be such a good cook. I'm like, I don't think you understood. I was able to follow. It was so fun. She's a good cook. She likes to sell herself short. She does everything. What Selena makes for you? My favorite thing in the world she makes. It's one of my favorite things. It would be at my last supper. Go on. She makes, I don't know if you guys have, do you guys, that's like a Southern thing. Do you guys have corn casserole? What? Or do you have corn pudding? It's a casserole because we're big on casseroles. And it has a little bit of like sweet cornbread and corn, little pieces of the corn.

40:11And you put a little bit of, I don't know the recipe, but I actually really want to show you a picture. So it's actually the thing that my mom also, Selena and my mother are like actually the same person. It's kind of crazy. Oh, that's a bit weird. I know. They always say you marry your mother. It's so delicious. Ooh. It's like a Virginia. It looks a bit without the crust. It actually does. It looks like it's a bit. There's no egg. Delicious. But it's not, it doesn't have the same density as this. It's much looser. Would you have that with like brisket? Yeah. It's like a side. And then like in the South, you put hot sauce on it too.

40:52Do you like hot sauce? I love hot sauce. Did you not like hot sauce? Certain hot sauce. Certain kinds. He actually has pinned my kind of spicy down to certain ingredients that I can take and that I can't handle. You know, we were born 10 minutes away from each other. Really? 10 minutes away. What do you mean? What were you doing in Texas someday? We were born 10 minutes away from each other. You didn't go for 10 years? Yeah. And then we moved to Virginia. You were Texan. Yeah. No, he can't claim to. No, no, I don't claim to. I don't claim, I claim Virginia. I claim Virginia. Virginia. But same, same.

41:27But it's fun because one of my favorite things to cook is also like Southern food. Like I love like, so our like Thanksgiving is more Southern based. And like my mom eats the same way. My mom's mom's from Kentucky. And it's like, you know, we love biscuits. We love cornbread. Like at our Thanksgiving, there's like four things that are corn. There's cornbread, there's corn casserole, and there's corn pudding. and they're all very different. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't. But it's all corn. Yeah, but it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't understand. Do they grow corn there? Where?

41:59Is that why it's so popular? Well, corn is cheap. It's just a very popular choice, I think. In the South, you've got to think a lot of these things were made cheaply. So it's like whatever, you know, and corn is a thing that America has a ton of. And it just tastes so fucking good. I love, I could eat. She eats corn at her rider. It's just corn. I love, because you can make it the Mexican street with all of the, how I grew up. So good. So your wedding's going to be picky bits. Just corn. It's just going to be corn. The corny wedding. We haven't figured, the one thing, we haven't figured out like anything in our wedding yet.

42:43The only thing I've said straight up as a part of the food is that I want Jake to do the challah. Yes. That's all I cared about. The Hala King. That's exactly happening. He missed the best Hala I've ever had. That's fact. Okay, Selena, is there anything you would like to add to that Last Supper? Did Benny get it correct? Are you going to get married after that? Well, yes. The creepy and wonderful thing about Benny is he knows me very well. Very, very well. So, yes, the only thing he missed is maybe just Benny Hanna's fried rice. I've never been to Benny Hanna. That's what we're doing for her birthday.

43:20I'm going to dress up. So for her birthday, what I'm going to do is I'm going to dress up in the outfit. And I'm going to get behind the grill. And I'm going to do, do you know what Benihana is? Yeah. It's like Japanese-ish. Kind of. It's like they cook it in front of you. And they do like a volcano. And they light it on fire. And then like they flip a shrimp in your mouth. Except they don't do that anymore. It's fun. It's so fun. And we went there on a date with my brother. We did a double date recently when we were in L.A. It was so fun. I love it. It's so like community and you're with other people and they just cook with you or they cook in front of you.

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45:44Okay, so We're Not Really Strangers is the game that you played before you had your first kiss. Yes. Part of your love story. Basically. So I thought we'd play it now. Final card. Do we need to go to the final card? No, there's a bit of a rule. So one, two, three. One is when you're getting to know someone on a basic level. So they've created and designed, or she did, your friend, where you kind of use your way in to getting to know someone. Okay, we're beyond one. You're going to meet her tonight. Okay. Who? The girl who made this game. Corrine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so should we all take...

46:20I'm sending her a picture right now. How do we play it? We're three. Get us to three. Okay, yeah. Should we all take a three? Sure. Okay, take a three. I don't know what's going on. All you got to do is read the card, Lenny. Just pick up a card and it has a question. And we're going to reveal something about ourselves. Do I want to know about my mother? And don't say I look like Jon Hamm again. I wasn't looking at your face. What were you looking at? What are you looking at, Lani? Mind you. Mind you. You have to grab one, too. I'm going to. I'm being a host. Okay, so what do we do now? She's going to ask everyone.

46:54So I'm going to ask, I'm going to say, oh, this is so weird. Because it kind of makes it special when it's just, how would you describe me to a stranger? That's so weird. Okay, well, everyone knows who you are, so that's a weird one. Yeah. I would call you honest, humble, kind, sweet and the most adorable person I think I've ever met thank you and like really and gorgeous face that little beautiful face can't stop looking and non-judgmental I think I'd say you're non-judgmental no I think everybody I have empathy in a certain way that could be too deep and I care a lot about people. I think that's the only, like the biggest compliment I could get is my work ethic and how I treat others is like very important to me.

47:48Benny, how would you describe your fiance to a stranger? How much time? Yeah. Three, okay, five. You're allowed five. Five words. Oh. So I made a list when I really wanted to, really find the person that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. Was this with your therapist? Yeah. I made a list with my therapist and everything I wrote down on the list was actually her. Okay. It's insane. You can make me cry. This was, no, I wrote down, look. So sweet. Whoever, I don't even know what camera to look at. Is this a camera? Yes. I don't know. Okay. Anyone out there? Oh, this is going to be on the algorithms?

48:37No, no, I'm serious. If you are ready, and you have to be really ready, okay, to find the person that you want to spend the rest of your life with, you've got to cut off all of the little thing here, little thing there, someone that you think you're dating here. You have to cut off everything that you know is bad for you. You know what's bad for you. You know what's good for you. You know what's bad for you. That's bad for you. You cut it out. You make a list of all the things you want in a partner that you could take home to your mother. If you don't have a mother, your father, whatever. And someone you could spend the rest of your life with.

49:10And these, it can be whatever you want. My list was very simple. I wanted someone 30 plus. I needed someone in my age bracket. I wanted someone who was kind. I know it's the craziest thing, but there's not a lot of kind people in the world. I wanted someone who was kind. I wanted someone who was caring. I wanted someone who was compassionate. I wanted someone who did anything. I didn't care. Like just be obsessed with anything you want to do in your life. So like if this person made olives, I want you to make olives every fucking day and come home and tell me about the olives and how passionate you are about them.

49:49And I'm going to love it because you love it. And then I just wanted someone who knew how to not only love themselves but love somebody else. and I met that person and it didn't hurt that she's also the most beautiful person on planet Earth inside and out. And yeah, and I would describe her as that. The only thing I would add is that she's so shy and too humble and too bashful and I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. Oh my God. Please just sit the wedding, man. I'm just not trying. I love it. That was a great call. Now what's yours fucking Lenny? Okay. What's your nickname for each other?

50:31Oh, have you just made that up? No. Okay, what's yours? That's cute. No, for you, each of you. Yeah. It works for everyone. Hers is Jessica. Okay. And when you were little, it was Jewdrop. Jewdrop. Yeah, Jewdrop. That's crazy. I don't think, I think you've maybe called me Sel a few times. I called you Sel today. Yeah, so, definitely. I just say babe, love, honey Yeah, baby I call her in my phone Still to this day What is she on your phone? In my phone Because I didn't want anyone I didn't want anyone to be over my shoulder looking So I made her salami Oh my god And still to this day Who you accidentally call all the time Or text Salam Remy Oh my god, that is true Well, sometimes I'll be like, text Salami.

51:28I love you and I miss you so much. And it's Salam Remy. He's a massive producer. He's an amazing producer. He did like the Winehouse. He's amazing. And like every time I do it, I press like delete immediately. He must get so excited. What's Sam call you? Babe. Babe. Babe. Yeah, I call baby babe. What do you call Sam? Babe. Yeah, I think I just say babe. I love her honey. I mean, Benny rolls off the tongue as well. It's almost like her nickname as well. It's warm, isn't it? I'm always singing a song about her names and doing weird little songs. They're so stupid. I'm so annoyed. Okay. Go on, you're next.

52:10It says, one word to describe how you feel right now. Drunk.

52:20Are you? To Cosmos. I'm kind of falling over. Oh, my God. You've got to pull it together, Lenny. I need to see you in a jockstrap today. Waiting for later. God. So you're feeling drunk. I'm feeling drunk. Flustered. Are you feeling drunk? Not drunk, but I feel very hot. That's because you're starting to get drunk. Okay, Selena, how do you feel right now? Very content. Oh, nice. Are you warmer? Yeah. I'm warmer, actually. Well, I wonder why. Okay, Benny, how do you feel right now?

52:55crikey benny i'm thinking about how i actually feel right now okay um the first thing that came to my head but i don't want that to be my thing is i want this recipe but but but the the second thing that came to my head is that i feel great because i'm with people i love my mom's here i'm about to go be surrounded by a million people i love we're gonna have like the best party we're going to eat food we're going to laugh we're going to dance hopefully if it's a good day we cry a little bit in a perfect way and i just feel i feel content and i feel like um i would like two to three more dirty martinis just to keep this thing going i think you need to keep going is someone coming in we will no no we will we will don't even worry are you ready for a bit of Jake Cohen's tiramisu cake.

53:48Hell yeah. Okay, Jake Cohen. I'm so excited. Betty told me, I was like, what should I make? She loves tiramisu. I love tiramisu too. If it's on a menu, I'm getting it. Oh, it's tiramisu creme brulee. Yes. Can I just go? I think I just want to go first. You have to have a bite too. Okay, yawning, dig down. Come on. Come on. Come on. You devil. What the heck? I already did this for breakfast, too. Oh, my God. Have you chosen the music for your first dance? I don't think we're looking at having one of those because they're a little. She's shy. I feel embarrassed. Why? She doesn't want to have a first dance.

54:35I will have a special dance with my papa, who he's my. That's your grandfather. Yes, it's my grandfather. and he's my mom's father and he never got a chance to walk my mom down the aisle because good for my mom. She decided to go to Vegas and be like, woo, and she's still been with them ever since they were like 26. So it's very cute that they did that but I wanted to give him an opportunity to have him. Does she know about the chairs at Jewish White House? Yeah, I already do. Oh, yeah. I am very curious about that. Just choose the people that are carrying you. Just make sure you get some men.

55:14Jake will do it. You need Jake's muscles. You need strong men on each leg. I had no Jews at my wedding, and so nobody understood. So I had all the bridesmaids trying to lift me up. No! And all the boys went to the... Because they didn't bloody know. There were a load of goys. Don't worry. Okay. Well, I have to be honest. It looks so cute and adorable. It's great. But I was like, what? I have to depend on just something like this? Jay, you're, yeah. It's like the biggest trustful ever. It is. We got so many people to take you up. I'm just going to have a padding around the pad. No, you'll be fine.

55:56I've got a couple more questions for you. What, Jessie? What's always in your fridge? Shut up. Okay, go. What's in your fridge? This is my fucking podcast, Benjamin. Jessie's fridge is so messy. Yeah, I know. It's probably like my mom's. My mom's is crazy. I'm like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho so like everything's organized how do you feel about this Selena do you quite like the I like how it looks in the fridge the freezer is where everything scares me because he should never tell me that it's anything's been frozen because when I was younger my nana would freeze things and then it would have like a freezer and a weird taste so whenever he freezes like everything from fresh corn to like fresh okra so that it lasts.

56:45Birthday cake? Yeah. In your freezer? Yeah, always. When I've been back two years later, the same birthday cake was in the freezer. But it's all fine. All that stuff is fine. I'm sorry, Benny. I'm not sure it is. Yes, it is. If you pack something right, it's fine. What do you think, Selena? He's shown me again. He'll give me something to eat and I'll be like, this is fantastic. And he'll say, yeah, I made it like five years already. Okay. First of all, I learned from my mother, my mother, you open up her freezer. It's like the natural history museum. It's like, it's like you open up. I love, she goes, I'm eating Thanksgiving.

57:26Now I said, mom, that was from the Thanksgiving before this year. When we were kids, she was like, Oh, it's not that we had cheese. It's not bad. Just cut around the mold. I do that too. Mums do that. So here's actually a great thing. So what I do is, you know, we grow vegetables and stuff. So let's say you grew some great corn. Okay. What you're going to do is you're going to shave it all off and you're going to put it in a proper freezer bag. Yeah. And then you freeze it and then you get to have it through the months. And it's sweet. Yes. The months that aren't on. Like there's certain things you can't freeze, but like lots of things you can freeze.

57:58Like okra, perfect thing to freeze. there's certain things that are gonna last like like um tuna only lasts like a week or two because it's going to change colors but like salmon lasts like six months in the freezer that's crazy no you just have to know i always have some in the freezer yeah yeah yeah yeah and okay so what what would we always find in your fridge what is always going to be and benny and My fridge will start because it's pretty easy. On my writer, and usually what's left in my fridge, is Red Bull, Gatorade, some jar of pickles. I like, in my writer, I like cheese cubes. What kind of cheese?

58:42It doesn't matter. Okay. I know all that. And hot Cheetos. No, you have more. Can you freeze your grandma's chicken dumplings? No. that's why I was I really want him to give it a fair shot because it was very hard to travel with yeah because right when it's hot and fresh it's so good so I love chicken and don't but it I just feel like you need to have it again he's very activity that's why I haven't really cooked with him you're an intimidating no it's so her mother's a great cook her grandmother's a great cook I just you're so good everyone is great I want you to be honest except Jessie she sucks I know.

59:21She's a great cook. Benny, what's always in your fridge? I'm always going to have just little staples so you can make a meal immediately. So, like, I'm always going to have some eggs. I'm always going to have some great, like, sauces that I've made. Because it's so easy to put a meal together. If you just have, like, a few sauces. If you have, like, a chimichurri. If you have, like, a yogurt sauce. Like, you can always pull everything together. And then in my freezer, I'm always going to have some sort of protein that I can pull out, defrost, make a meal. I'm always going to have, I love pickles.

59:58I think what I love is, if I can interject, it's very much accessible. So like this morning, he made scallops. What was it? With some rice. Like he just, like every morning, it's something different. I keep everything frozen. But mom, when we came back from a workout in LA, you made a piece of cod. You made these very slow roasted potato in chicken stock. And you talk. I've realized he talks whilst he cooks. Yeah. Because we've got a nice bit of cod here. And then you were going to put the, you talk all the way. I always want to help, but I always end up hugging him when he's. Yeah, just hug him.

1:00:40She always hugs me at the worst part. I could be in a fight. I could be in a police chase, the SWAT team. And she comes up and just hugs me, right? Like whenever I'm like flipping something in fry oil, she comes right behind me. Or cutting with the sharpest knife. What do you want to say, Linda? Benny, there's a restaurant called River Cafe. Do you know? I've been there. All right. So Ruth Rogers always finishes her meal with ice cream. What would be your flavor? I'm not a huge. Benny, your freezer was full of ice cream in the day. That's for everyone else. That's for everyone else. I'm not a huge ice cream guy.

1:01:14If I do, I really like Butterfield's frozen peanut butter froyo. I'm more of like, I like sour candy. Okay, Selena, what's your ice cream? Are you an ice cream guy? Yeah, Rocky Road. Rocky Road. Always. Oh, Rocky Road. Where are you getting your Rocky Road from? What's the one that Papa uses? Baskin-Rasmus? No. Oh, Haagen-Dazs? No. Texas brand with a cow on it. Bluebell. Thank you. I love you. I love you. Bluebell is one of my favorite ice creams. Vanilla is the best for root beer Cokes. What are they? I just don't know what the taste is for everyone else, but it's so classic, and they're Rocky Road.

1:02:06Every single bite has a nut and a marshmallow. It's like perfect. I will tell you one thing. Jenny's ice cream made this one ice cream that was so crazy it was everything bagel ice cream and it was so good okay you want to know what the best ice cream is that i had recently what it was vanilla ice cream but it had a salted caramel mixed with soy sauce and it was like i know it sounds weird but at coat have you had that one it's so good i also just had an ice cream i'm not an ice cream guy but um yeah well i'm not an ice cream guy but if it's in front of me i'm not I love ice cream. Okay. I had this ice cream where they put, I know it sounds crazy, but they put little teeny bits of corn nuts in it.

1:02:50And it was so good because it was like the saltiness of the corn. Do you know what? Do you guys have corn nuts? Yeah. Like the kernel. Yeah. Like the kernel. They're like they buy at a gas station and petrol station. Were they hot though? They were crunchy. They were crunchy, but they were like little bits and it had salted caramel in it too. And like a whipped cream. so you like it was delicious I also just recently had one other ice cream I know this no I'm not an ice cream you're fancy no no we were at Thai Diner and they did where's that in New York it's in New York it's the same people who used to own Uncle Boone's so they had an ice cream and they like put like toasted coconut on top and then there's like so much coconut cream on top of the ice cream and then they they make like candied Thai peanuts on top and I have a picture of it actually I'd like to see it.

1:03:40How delicious. Last question. Nostalgic taste or scent that can transport you back somewhere, happy or sad? Hmm. You know, I think for a while, I mean, I guess I suppose it's still in style, but the Lava was very tricky. The perfume? Tricky, yes. What, like triggering and tricky? It just was like a lot of what. Ex-boyfriends wearing it. It felt like too familiar. But the older I've gotten, the more it doesn't bother me. I have a beautiful Lalaba diffuser that's so pretty. What's your scent that you go for? I love anything woodsy. I think that's like my favorite. I bought two for our new place.

1:04:27But I'm just, yeah, I think that one and then. The taste? You got a taste? Yeah, I'm trying to think. I think taste is probably the pickle snow cone. because it makes me think of when my dad would pick me up and we'd usually stop to get a snow cone and then we'd go back to his house and watch a movie or something. Those two things bring me back. Okay, smell. The beautiful Japanese coil incense. That reminds me of you. Yeah, I've always been on those since I was 18. The incense reminds me of you. You introduced me into like actually. I do like that He's so good with smells I do have good ones And then Taste Okay When we were kids Me and my friends Do you guys know what a George Foreman grill is?

1:05:19Yeah Okay So when we were kids My One of my friends, Julian Was the first person I'd ever seen with a George Foreman grill We used to get stoned And we would make these like Elaborate panini sandwiches and think we were Gordon Ramsay. They were disgusting. I still remember. My friend would get sourdough bread from Trader Joe's. Do you guys have Trader Joe's? No, we love Trader Joe's, but we love them. Sourdough bread from Trader Joe's, and we'd put all different things inside of it, and we would melt it, and we'd put... My friend would always put rice vinegar for some reason, and he would be like...

1:05:54And put it in, and we would get stoned. We'd cut them up, and they'd be like these cheesy things, and then everyone would taste it, and we would think... You know when you're high and— How old are you? No. 13. You've never been high. You've never smoked weed? Okay. You know when you're high and— Maybe tonight's the night. You think you're— Everyone in your— One person in your friend group thinks they're a genius, okay? Who was that? All of us thought we were a genius with the sandwiches. And you'd be like— And when you eat, it just hits different. And you're just like, ugh. And it would be like that every time.

1:06:27And I still remember the smell of the cheese just as it would melt. and it would be like heaven. And we would see. Because you were stoned. Yeah, we would watch it. We would sit underneath. Did you guys ever sit like underneath the thing and you'd be waiting because you didn't want to lift it up too early because then the steam and the melt, it wouldn't. You don't know what I'm talking about. You never even smoked weed in your life, Lenny. Tonight's the night, Lenny. Would you smoke weed with Jon Hamm if he said right now? He said, you got to smoke weed. Is he coming tonight? Is he coming? He's under the table.

1:06:54He's waiting for you, Lenny. Would you smoke weed with Jon Hamm? Yeah. I'd do anything with Jon. okay Benny and Selena thank you so much for coming Lenny's wasted hey I'm going to have to lie down for 10 minutes

1:07:28I'm now drinking Benny and Selena's tea because I'm flushed. Because that dirty martini has really gone to my head. And mum is on her third... Oh my God, you're pouring Selena's Cosmo. Oh my God. Don't care. Pull yourself together, woman. It's the best I've felt for two days. You're going to fall asleep in the boom bar. Thank you to Benny and Selena for coming on the podcast. Always a pleasure, Benny. Always good fun. And Selena, you're welcome back for another Whenever You Want, babe. And thank you to Standard for having us. Oh, yeah. There's a big gay party going on next door. I'm going, darling.

1:08:05I feel like you would be raised onto... A chair like I'm getting married. ...their shoulders and praised with a Cosmo in your hand. Are you finishing Selena's Cosmo? Yes, you are. We're in New York City and it could go one way or the other, but so far, so good. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week for another New York special.

1:08:48We'll be right back.

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