Seth Meyers

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1:06Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Mum for our last in our New York series. But it's a goodie. But it's been the most wonderful week. You've had the best time. Thank you to Alice, Luca and Tully for being a brilliant team. And who made it all happen. And thanks to the Standard Highline for having us. Magnificent views. Old Liberty isn't as much of you today, but we can still see her. Yeah. And we've just had the best week. And we're going to go out with a bang. Oh, gosh. I've been so looking forward to meeting this man. He is. He's a legend. He's a legend. He's late night New York.

1:44Whether you watched SNL back in the early noughties or you watch his show now, Late Night with Seth Meyers, he's always on your screen, smiling with his gorgeous smile and big blue eyes and saying something funny. Award winning. He's also just done an HBO special. called Dad Man Walking, which is all about him and family. He's been in movies. He has two podcasts. He does one with the Lonely Island guys from SNL, where they talk about kind of memories from SNL, and they just have a chat. And he also does one with his brother. It's called Family Trips with the Myers Brothers. And he's just, I remember when I've been on his show a couple of times, he makes a load of time for you.

2:25I was completely terrified. And he's just a very kind, lovely person. And I've always been such a fan of him. And it feels really nice to sign off New York City with Seth Meyers, who... It's really New York City. Yeah. So it's the end of the week and we're doing an early... Well, we're doing a morning podcast. So I didn't want to knock on poor Jake Cohen's door for the fourth... Seven o 'clock in the morning. Yeah, like seven o 'clock in the morning. And he's probably been out clubbing the night before. So we decided to order in, which is quite New York of us. um we went to this amazing pastry shop with benny blanco and a big host of other fabulous new friends and it's a new opening called buba and it's berekkah's and they're delicious and ben gingy whose shop it is is a force of nature and i just wanted to well give seth myers a new taste in town so we've asked ben to come on and introduce himself we have ben gingy Well, this is how all your friends call you, but your name is Ben.

3:29My name is Ben. Ben Simantov. Hello, Ben Simantov. But I always want to be a Gingy. I feel that Gingy, like, Gingy is the way in Hebrew we say ginger, redhead. Okay, ginger. Yes, and Gingy is kind of like bring always like association with like big personality, like, you know, like colorful personalities. And I always want people to call me that. I'm not Ginger. No, I was going to say you're not anything. But I am bald. So like the moment that I lost my hair and my beard is pretty reddish. Your beard is a good beard. So my dad was like, you can call yourself Gigi and owns it. No one will say anything.

4:04I love it. And what you lack in your head hair, you make up for in your absolutely huge beard. It's an amazing beard. Thank you. Thank you. My daughter, for the first couple of months of her life, she thought that men are not growing hair on their head, only on their face. So like everyone she would see, she would be like, is that a woman? And I was like, no, it's actually a man. and he also goes hell on the head. You are, so for people that don't know who Ben Gingy is, you are a baker. I am a baker, yes. And you have a new pastry shop. Yes, Bubba Bureka. Bubba Bureka is what we had on last Saturday and we've talked about it and it was such a great morning.

4:43There were about 20 of us and you call everyone queen and you say, hello my queen, and it's like the best energy in your pastry shop. It's also got the biggest line. Everyone's queuing for these Burekas. Tell us about how Bubba came about. Wow, where do I start? Bubba, it's our first shop, our first Burekas dedicated pastry shop in New York City. You know, in my culture, Burekas is our pizza. It's exactly the association that people are making when they want to, like what we call in Hebrew, close the corner. When you're like not fully hungry, you're on the go, you're like grabbing something to the office.

5:21fill the gap I just love the ring of closing a corner maybe just for me as I'm translating it it sounds good but anyway on the way out from a club late night munchies there is an occasion for Bureka like there is an occasion for pizza we thought that the street food scene in New York City is a little bit of lacking the grab and go the fast serving and we are excited to be a part of this scene. And you've collaborated with Gadi, who is Bread's Bakery, which is quite an institution in New York, isn't it? Absolutely. One of the only ones. Bread's Bakery, yes. Gadi is one of the partners and we couldn't be more grateful to have him to support us with everything we do.

6:07Where did you learn to bake? Is your dad a baker? I worked in restaurants for years as a chef. Not any relation to baking. And when I moved to Italy. I just started baking and got addicted and obsessed and since then I'm only baking. How many Borekas do you do a day until you sell out? Because you close at 2.30 I think. Is it 2.30? We are trying to get to 2.30. Could you sell out? Exactly. We are baking as many as we can. A couple of hundreds a day. So you've given us... Thank you very much for doing a delivery in person and you've given us all your flavours I think. Yes. And take us through the flavors that you've got.

6:48You've got four flavors, haven't you? Yes. So, Borregas usually is coming with traditional flavors as cheese, like kind of farmer cheese, potato, and spinach. Those are the classics. So, we kept the cheese as classic as we can. And the potato, we are doing with caramelized shallots. The spinach, we wanted to do something that will be more unique and more approachable for, as we said, Americans that are not familiar with that flavor. So, we did a spinach artichoke dip. which is very popular in New York as well they love a spinach I'll show you and this is indeed the best seller burekas in our shop and we thought what will be the fourth flavor and what is like America for us and corn we figured out very clever yes so we went with sweet corn beautiful smooth corn puree with cheese it's beautiful and yeah going all together with all the fixings freshly grated tomatoes my grandfather's chug which is our take on salsa verde it's delicious and I love the hardball that you have too and the pickles and the olives it's delicious you know my like my vision was that the box will be so small and so tight that you open it like a jewellery box and it will just like all shine to your face with colours and flavours it's doing that exactly thank you so much thank you for walking by and thank you for giving us the best best delivery and we can't wait to give them to Seth Meyers who's coming up on the show

8:19Seth Meyers. I'm so happy to be here, but I do want to establish something really quick. Yeah. I dream of having the opportunity to go to England again. It's been a very long time. Yeah. And obviously I have a job and a family. Yeah. But I do, I would like a full version of this for you guys. Okay. Make me a meal. Okay. So, and again, I could blow it, but I promise to bring more. You're not going to blow it, because you are fab. Yeah. We will definitely have you over and I'll make chicken soup and mutts. I've begged. I would love that. I've begged of Graham Norton that I can be a guest on his show and now I'm begging of you.

8:49So maybe I can try that. Did you get the Graham Norton? Graham has been on my show a couple of times. It's fab. The best. But again, that is sort of pinnacle talk show, I believe, is being a guest on his show and he has said I can do it. So, yeah, it usually goes like Graham Norton, Table Manners. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're doing the promo run, you'll come over. Well, there's like top of the, top of TV, top of pod. Like you guys are both. I feel like you're one well I mean you know about podcasts you've got two I do and let me just say anytime you can monetize the family relationship on a podcast well yeah we both all do the family value yeah but it's good I mean how I know my brother hang on a minute Seth this is my podcast carry on I have a bad habit of doing this go on go on but I just think that I talk to my brother so much more often now that we have a podcast together but you guys maybe were talking all the time anyway I feel like I just grunt at my mum when the mics are not on.

9:45I revert to being a teenager. Can you imagine at my stage in life, I get involved in this, and I've met the most amazing people. It's like making a job. It's like, wow. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. I mean, I'm so happy to be. I mean, I don't know how you and I were going to meet otherwise. I don't know. Could I just ask one thing? Yes. Are your eyes, or is George Clooney's eyes as blue as yours? Oh, I did mention that I met George Clooney recently. This is my mum just entering into the flirt. No, it's not flirting. She's flirting with someone else. It's called necking, isn't it? It's like a compliment.

10:19She definitely was looking at me and I thought she was going to ask about my eyes. But your eyes are astonishing. Thank you. Open with that. Your eyes are astonishing. You guys have given me a very nice light for my eyes. Does George Clooney even a tiny bit match up? I mean, it's hard for me because I have an ego, a healthy ego about my eyes, only my eyes. Gorgeous eyes. But look, George Clooney has really good eyes too. He does. Okay. I just need a reassurance on that one. I don't want you to think any less of him. And how was his show? It was fantastic. Was it? I wish we'd gone to see that as well.

10:53Well, yeah, we went to see Jonathan Groff in Just In Time. One of those people that if you have the opportunity to see him live, you have to see him live. He is amazing. I would tell you guys and I'll just be honest, I would have told you a year ago, I am not a fan of a Broadway musical. I like a Broadway play. And that's why we haven't had you on yet. I understand. But this is why you had me on now. I saw Merrily We Roll Along with Jonathan Groff. Yeah, amazing. And I can't stop listening to the soundtrack. And I feel like he that performance and that the three of them opened my eyes to what musical theater can be.

11:29So you're like a Sondheim fan now. I'm fully in on Sondheim. Wow. Interesting. That kind of like the interesting guy. Yeah. I feel like Lonely Island could do something with a Sondheim thing. You know, we did a thing. I have a very small, a very niche show called Documentary Now, where it's parodies of existing documentaries. And John Mulaney and I wrote an episode that is a parody of Company. Oh, really? Mostly John Mulaney mostly wrote it. So were you on the show? Were you doing Late Night last night? No, I'm on hiatus. So, okay. So when do you go back on? On Monday. How long have you been off?

12:08I've been off for two weeks and I don't care for it. You made out like hiatus was like, I mean, like it was a long, yeah. No, no, no. We just have like a week off here, a week off there. But I don't like having, I would just like to have the week off. Yeah, I read that you prefer working to the beach. Oh, yeah, the beach. You guys, where are you on the beach? I love the beach. We love the beach, yeah. Yeah. Come to Greece. Yeah, no, Greece is nice, but I just don't. Yeah, I mean, you chose Amsterdam as somewhere to live, which is not. beachy. Not a real beach town. No. I would say Amsterdam chose me.

12:40I was a very, I was a young improviser living in Chicago and there was a American ran improv comedy theater in Amsterdam and so I moved over there when I was a young person and I loved it. You loved the rain. I did, but I genuinely loved the rain. Really? I love everything. Biking home in the rain is like my, I feel like the perfect version of me. Was that when you were stoned or not when you were still. I wasn't that star. You know what? When I went to Amsterdam, you know what I found? I prefer alcohol to marijuana. Well, cheers to that. Yeah, cheers to that. I mean, look, it's kind of like, I mean, this is not going to be like day drinking, sadly.

13:16Do you always drink during the day? I don't always drink, but if there's cameras. That is a genius idea. It's a genius idea, save for the fact you can really only do it twice a year. Really? Like a real genius idea is carpool karaoke because you can do it anytime somebody wants to sing a song. You know what I mean? You can jam them out. Well, if you're a functioning alcoholic, you could do it every day. That's the thing. You could. Is the hangover bad? The hangover's bad. But I can handle the hangover. I think we're very aware of the fact that at some point, there's a tipping moment where the audience says, how cool is this?

13:52That this 51-year-old man is dangerous. We know he has a family. Getting a little drunk. And he's just getting blasted. Sometimes with pop stars. It just might not be a good look. Who was the best drunk? I will say that Rihanna, who's the best in a lot of categories. That was so good. But it just kept her composure. What did she drink? Everything. And we just give her stupid drinks. What was the, we found Verve in a... Oh, yeah, we found Verve in a... God, yeah, it was... Homeless? Not homeless. No. You have a very good memory. There was like, bitch better have my bunny, I feel like, which is we drank something out of a chocolate bunny.

14:31Yeah, I mean, they're all quite disgusting, though. But Verve had a Twinkie in it. Yeah. Oh, that's it, a hostess place. We found Verve at a hostess. Hostess is the brand that makes Twinkies. Okay, right. That sounds like one of her songs. We found Verve in a hopeless and a hopeless place. It's her song, Mom. Oh, okay. Do you think that's a coincidence? Okay, I've just... Was the most... You must have been sitting here being like, guys, I am about... Yeah, that's quite clever. I am about to blow your mind. Mind with my... My insight. Yeah. Thanks. Okay. Oh my God. Fine. So we are, I do feel bad now, Seth, because we actually haven't cooked today, but we have cooked all week.

15:10And that isn't to say that you're not special. But I actually, if it opens the door for me to be a return guest. It really is. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think let's just look at this as a first date. And I think that it's going really, I think it's going swimming. I think it's going great. But we have like pulled in some favors because I have you heard about B-B-Barekas? No. Okay so they've been where are they East Village? East Village. Oh they're brand new. Brand new. Oh that makes me feel I had a real like I was upset that you guys knew more about a culinary place in my home. It's really good so we went on our first day in town so Benny is a friend of mine I used to make music with him and now we just eat.

15:53Anyway so Benny like organized which is his favorite thing to do organized a kind of team meeting. 30 people okay and we walk to this place it's a pastry shop and he's like they're ready for us and like and this lovely guy Ben Gingy like queen brings out all these barricas and we're gonna have them they're gonna be a bit cold now but they're still delicious because it's pastry it's gonna be awkward we're gonna have to talk about it on our faces and just flaky look out for each other but it was so delicious so we thought that you should try the barricas because are you like do you go out for do you have time to go out for dinners when you're on the show?

16:29We do okay. I would say... You have three kids. We have three kids. And a dog. And I would say... It was funny. Where we're doing this podcast is a hotel that... I remember before we had kids, one time we did like a steak. We just came here for like a romantic night. Did you get any sleep? Did you stay in one of the rooms? Well, this is one of the rooms. But this is before we had kids. Did you have the curtains open? No, we had a great time. Exactly. It was open or closed? So we're like, you know what? New York, this is our gift to you. Curtain's open. But it is so funny to come back to the same hotel and if I said to my wife, you know what?

17:00I think we should go back. Like she'd be like, wait, me alone? Because if it's me alone, that's a great gift. But if you want to come with me to a hotel, get out of town. Oh, yeah. So we try to go out. We are trying to, you know, maintain some of the romance of like going out to a nice dinner. But we do okay. I would say we do it a lot with friends, which is nice. So where's the best meal that you've had recently out? Four Charles. Have you heard about Four Charles? It's called Four Charles Prime Rib. That is the address. And it's exceptionally good. A little restaurant. A tough res. I feel like you guys might be able to land it.

17:36I feel like you can get any res. With a little bit of warning, I can get. There's some places, even today, if it's New York City, if it's day of. I mean, I tried to get into Meecy in Brooklyn. They didn't bite. Nothing, huh? And that's okay. Yeah, that's fine. And it was humbling. I've had a good week, and it was good to get me back down to planet Earth. cued and got into bar pity and got insulted by the waiters. Bar pity? I just, bar pity is my, my kids love bar pity and my daughter, because I'm on hiatus, I picked up my daughter at school the other day and we went to bar pity for lunch. That's so New York.

18:13What's her order? The only place in New York doesn't take cards. You have to go downstairs. Go downstairs to get cash from a real janky ATM. An ATM that looks like it's there to steal your... Yeah, absolutely. I was worried it wasn't going to eat my card. So what did your daughter order? She wanted a penne with a red sauce. Okay, classic. Yeah, classic. I was a little disappointed that she wasn't, you know, I want her to have that sort of palate where she'll order off the menu, but I'm in the palm of her hand, so if she wants to be bossy with me. The food is good there. It's very good. It's very simple and very good.

18:46I feel like New York kids know how to dine out better than any other, like, well, like they're definitely better than my kids. Like we were at this Boreca's place and two kids, my friend's kids, they were just like not kicking up a fuss, weren't trying to be the centre of attention, weren't demanding. Jessie, stop talking about my grandchildren like that. They're fabulous. My kids do not want to go to restaurants. Like they don't care for it. How old's your daughter though? Three and a half. And she wanted to go out for red sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did she say, dad, take me out to a party? I said, where do you want to go to lunch?

19:24she said Bar Pity. Bar Pity, by the way, a really cute restaurant to hear from a three and a half year old girl. We also sat at Bar Pity. It was pretty empty because we went at noon when it opens. And someone who was sitting one table over works at Stephen Colbert's show and he's a friend. So he introduced himself. And my daughter very much was like, she was very frustrated because it was our daddy daughter date. She was like, only talk to me. She kept saying, only talk to me, dad. And so I had, and then this lovely guy tried a few more times. We have friends in common and she just was very and then he left and another woman sat next to us and the minute she sat down she was like why is she not talking to us and I was like oh so you did love it so secretly you did love it this is really interesting because do you get approached by people in the street quite a lot yes but in the most polite way I think I have I would say the great thing about the level of recognition I have is most people don't break stride I get a lot of like love the show on the way by yes They don't feel the need.

20:23I think there's a certain level of fame where people really need to have a moment with you. Photo. Or tell you how important. Yeah. No one needs to tell me how important I am. I'm a real love your show, keep walking. And so with the kids, it's great. Would you like something to eat? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. I love, by the way, not only am I not getting a meal, but then you told me you have pastries, but they're not going to be warm. I just feel like across the board this is fair. I think we've eaten them across the way. I also have a real fear that I need to... What? You dribble. People hate...

20:55My mother and my wife have almost... The one thing they most agree on is I should never eat on camera. Okay. We won't show anything. You know what? If it's that bad, we won't put the clip out. You'll just edit it out. Don't worry. And also, Alice is very, very good at taking it. Is it the sound or the facial? I can't wait to see. I mean, I'm going to be really in my head. I think they would say that it's when the cameras aren't rolling that it's a disaster. Okay, so listen, we've got like four different types of barackas. And they're flaky and they're going to get in our face. There's your own tahini chip.

21:30Okay, so there's like... Oh, this is so exciting. So they've got spinach and artichoke. Are you allergic to anything? No. Spinach and artichoke. You sound like you're in a restaurant. I know. Any dietries? That's what they say here. There's a corn one. and look if we have pastry I've basically chosen the worst first date food spinach and pastry great gorgeous enjoy yourself and just the perfect table for it I know I know this is just I know look eat what you can and then we've got babka from breads do you know breads bakery what's over there what's that one this I don't know you're just going to have to kind of dig in I like the spinach what do you feel like I don't know I feel like it's going to be a flaky disaster but it's going to be good I agree I'm going to do a solid for you.

22:15I think that's potato and shallots. That's what I want. And you've got to have the zoog and the tahini and the tomato and do you want a little half old egg? Oh, by the way, my daughter, thanks to Peppa Pig, is now saying tomato. Oh. Yeah. God, Peppa's a mad ass. Immediately, by the way, also at her little store in her bedroom. Oh, right. Like, now we have to pay in pounds thanks to Peppa. Oh my God, I love that. By the way, if she ever says shallots, I'm kicking her out of the house. shallots shallots can you find a spinach over there sure does it say it it says it on the part of the box that you can't see if you open it that's a cheese corn spin is in America is short for spinach can we talk about your mum's sandwich fillings yeah sure I was listening to your podcast with your brother and you were talking and celebrating how your mum was pretty ahead of the game with her sandwich fillings.

23:13She would, yeah. She would, the best sandwich was a, she made a great chicken Kiev and then. That's very ahead of the game. Very ahead of the game. Yeah. I think when you. She was doing like sandoz before sandoz were a thing. What's a sandoz? Very much so. Like fried chicken, like. Yes. Like a proper, like not just like thin, you know, store-bought ham, but like she would then like sort of chop up the chicken Kiev and yeah, it was a big thick. So you were like having like a garlicky oozy yeah on marble rye pre-toast she would toast the marble rye that's amazing very good care of us why did she do that um a mother's love okay i think she did yeah i don't want this for school that was school pack lunch for school yeah and did all the other children want to eat your pack lunch i you know what i actually think the other kids maybe thought it was a little weird and didn't quite know what they were missing out at least it wasn't like smelly.

24:10No, exactly. You know what I mean? Garlic from the Kiev. It wasn't that bad. It's not like having an egg sandwich or a tuna sandwich. As long as you don't have either of those, you're fine in a lunch cup. So where did you go to school? I went to a public high school in New Hampshire. So this side? Yeah, northeast. Our north of Boston. And it was lovely. I went to a great school. Got a great education. My mom was a school teacher at the middle school. She was my teacher. Bad news, she was my French teacher. My French is terrible, so I do reflect poorly on her as an educator. She was your teacher.

24:43I've never heard about like someone getting their mom as their teacher. We, the thing, she was the first French teacher. And so I had her in sixth grade and then they added a French teacher. And once there was another option, I didn't, they wouldn't let me have her. But if it's the only option and you want to take the class. Did you want to take the class? I did. I think. I mean, I was pretty, it went pretty well. I'm on my second. I'm doing really well. I will say, this one is the safest for the cheese. I'm going to do the corn. The corn is delicious. Just because I've never once at breakfast thought, I hope they have the corn.

25:20And so this is, for me, it's a real breakthrough. Can you pass the spinach again? Yeah, of course I can. Thank you. Who does the cooking in your house? My wife. Yeah. And my brother-in-law, who lives with us, he has done some private chefing. Oh, great. Is that why he got invited to stay with you then? Yeah. An extra set of hands too is a very helpful thing to have. So if we were coming around to yours and your wife was cooking, what would you be giving us for our dinner? Okay. That's a good question. What's your favorite thing that your wife does? I mean, my wife makes an exceptional brisket if we were doing, I mean, if we were doing sort of a special occasion.

26:02Okay. If you guys are coming over for Passover or something. How long is it cooked? I would say, I don't know. I'm going to say eight, and she pretends like it's 150. Okay, got it. You know what I mean? It's hard to know the exact number because she presents as someone who's been doing a lot of cooking. When she's doing her cooking. I understand that one, yeah. And what do you serve with your brisket? I will say my father-in-law makes really good potato pancakes, latkes. Latkes, oh. And with green chili. So they're from New Mexico. and I don't know if you've ever had any green chilies, which is very unique to New Mexican cuisine, but it's fantastic in everything.

26:42And so I would say green chili latkes would be, that's a big deal for him. So he puts the green chilies, chops them up and puts them in the latkes? Yes. Are they hot? I would say they're more bold and flavorful. You can get a hot one, but they're really smoky. Are they fresh green chilies? No. Yeah, so they're fresh and you get them when they are harvested. And then if you have a connection in New Mexico, they'll send you a bunch and then you freeze them. So are they big? Are they long? They're like long green chilies. And so you could slice them. If you wanted to fry them, they'd be sort of long, thin strips.

27:18But you sort of chop them up. Do your kids eat them? They love them. New Mexican cuisine, I was not a fan of spicy food before I met my wife and now I love it a great deal. And I'm a huge... I mean, I will say, like, after, like, four days of visiting New Mexico, you'd like to move on to something else. That's so interesting. I don't really think of Jews having any spice as well. So that's... I don't think of Jews in New Mexico. I thought to be perfectly honest. There's very few. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's family is a real vanguard of it. How was your sleep last night? Did your child knock on the door?

27:53Here's the problem. No, it was worse than that. This awful... We've started this awful new routine. So my wife and I went out to an event and we told the babysitter she could let Axel sleep in our bed until we got home. And then on the transfer, Axel just begged to stay. So Alexei was like, just let him stay. So I made it till about 1230 and then he was kicking me so much that I went and I slept in the lower bunk of my boys' bunk beds. Oh, that's awful. Yeah. You had Dad Man Walk. Dad Man Walk. Yeah, Dad Man Walk is your HBO special. and it's all about being a parent and there was this amazing clip that's about Seth having his children wake him up in the night and him wishing it would be an intruder instead of his child isn't it always musical bets with young kids it is but we're kind of in a good place and Axel's so charming that Alexei said oh it's so it's nice when he's he's so cuddly and then I think he like cuddles with her and then and he kicks you yeah And then he kind of like moves perpendicular over the course of the season.

28:58He's trying to oust you in some way. I think it's a group effort. I think they're working in tandem. I don't think he's working alone. I think it's a two-man job.

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30:20as well as the sandwiches can you paint a picture of your family dinner table who was around it what were you eating and your mom wasn't doing great kiev sandwiches all right so we were a core four family we have the tiniest kitchen table that we ate at the entirety of growing up and in fact when my wife first saw how we ate dinner like she's all a lot of people pointed out it's very hard to break into our inner sanctum of four people. And she said, the time I knew it was going to be tough was when I realized you literally couldn't even fit a fifth chair at the table. It was like somebody had to sit at the kitchen counter.

30:57But we sat around that table. We had the same four seats every single night. Like even today, like when I go back, I know exactly where to sit. And we, my dad commuted about an hour away from home, but we would usually wait to eat until he got home. And in fact, my mom's least favorite thing, which he did every single day is he would call her before he left the office to ask what was for dinner and she would tell him and then she would hang up the phone and just basically bitch to us about like what difference does it make? Like what does he have to prepare on the drive home to know what's how to eat?

31:29He wanted to look forward to it. He did I think that. It was anticipation. You have a much warmer outlook on my father than my mother does. What did he do your dad? He was in finance. He was a banker. It's a funny thing that he ended up with two people in show business but he was incredibly supportive of that choice as well. But we, you know, I will say, like, there was a lot. My mom was a school teacher, so she worked every day as well. I feel like one of my favorite things is she would just, it was a lot of, like, frozen chicken wings. She would, like, there was a tray of frozen chicken wings and then a tray of frozen french fries.

31:59And that would, it was a lot of that. A lot of burgers. But then, you know, macaroni and cheeses, you know, chickens. we didn't have a lot growing up by looking back not a ton of red meat certainly for dinners or anything lots of pastas and stuff I feel like we didn't looking back it was less healthy than certainly my mom eats now typically we're just less aware of that but ethnically where were they from their heritage? I mean no so you know my mom is like British and Swedish but didn't really bring anything from that No smorgasbords. No smorgasbords, no. And, yeah, I mean, they didn't, that was not, we didn't really have that as a thrust.

32:44Because I just think in the States, everyone's bringing their own heritage into their country. Yeah, we just felt like a suburban family. I feel like we ate like people in the suburbs. Okay. Yeah. I mean, to give it like, my favorite thing my mom made was this Chex party mix. Do you know Chex? Yes. Yes, the cereal. And so my mom, and to this day, it's still my favorite thing. but it's basically just like three kinds of Chex, pretzel rods, peanuts, a ton of Worcestershire sauce, like sticks and sticks of butter. And we would just have this giant tub of that all the time. Do you melt butter or do you put it in the oven?

33:18You put it in the oven. And then it kind of just melts itself. I don't understand what that is. It's like a trail mix, but like a mix. You know you can get it in a bag. Chex actually makes it. It's cereal. Just think of this. It's three different kinds of cereal, pretzels, peanuts. Like breakfast cereal. Yes, breakfast cereal. but it's like wheat there's nothing sweet about it it's like wheat jacks or like I can't remember the other kinds but would there almost be like a version of like a Ritz's cracker yeah it's a crunchy delicious it's yummy carby delicious yum and again it's another thing where if I go home and I eat it for a week my wife says I smell like it oh really yeah like just like it oozes oh it comes through your body yeah I think it might be the Worcestershire sauce that's interesting I've never really thought about that oh I will say chicken curry chicken salad that was a big thing my mom made a homemade curry chicken salad yeah my mom was a lot of we call it coronation chicken yeah i mean you know uh bits of celery um uh you know bits of uh i feel like cashew maybe my mom was the kind of person who would read a recipe in the new york times and sort of that that would like enter the rotation for a year or so yeah can you can you cook no i would say the worst thing that happened was during the pandemic there we had had these chefs from a place hopefully i'm getting this right i think called the meatball shop here in new york and they had you know gifted me this you know meatball um cookbook and i thought well this is you know for pandemic cooking we had a lot of family with us in one roof and uh and i just felt like such a king because i was making like once a week i was making these really good meatballs and then there was a point where the entire family was like, I think we're good.

34:58I think we've had our fill on the meatballs. Thanks, Dad. Please step aside. So we ask everyone what their last supper would be. Okay, I put some thought into this because I knew it was coming. But I don't know if – I really stress the last part of this. Does that stress you? No, because I don't know if this is the best supper, but I feel like if it's your last supper, I think you want to eat all the things that you regret. Like, you know a day later where you're like, oh, I wish I hadn't had that. Yes. But if this is your last supper, go for it. Yes, I like this. So this is all bad food. Okay.

35:34But I think that's how I'd want to go out. This says a lot about you. Which part that I would? That it's bad food. Yeah. Yeah. That's in your heart where you want to be. It is. Yeah. The nice guy wants to be bad. So one of my favorite things about living in New York City, and cities in general, like just delivery food, ethnic delivered, Chinese food especially. And I remember once, you know, after SNL, because we'd be up so late on Saturdays, and then it would be Sunday, and you'd sleep in, and then I would just, you know, love ordering Chinese food. And not, I would also, it was the first time I even had a little bit of money when I started SNL, and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to over-order Chinese food.

36:13And I remember once I had ordered a bunch of Chinese food. I lived alone, and I was on the phone with one of my closest college friends. And, you know, this is before food apps, so you actually had to, like, interact with the delivery person when they showed up. And I remember he showed up, and he was – I forget. He was like, that'll be, like,$72 or something. And I was like, okay. And my friend heard it on the phone, and he said, did you just order$72 of Chinese food for yourself? And I was like, oh, yeah, is that bad? He goes, yeah, that's really – that's too much food. You know Jade Thurwell does this thing from Little Mix, Jade Thurwell.

36:46She does the thing when she's ordering. She goes, is that for everybody? Yeah, yeah, we all good when it's an order for herself. Yeah. So to like pretend to get to the person on the phone. She'd be like, anybody want anything else? Yeah. She just did that. She should do that. So what's your best thing of not sweet and sour chicken? It would be like general sauce chicken or something like that. Like the one of the kind that like is not, you know, it's, it's mostly batter. It's barely chicken. Fluorescent. Yeah. And I will say, I, my heart races with excitement when there's a ton of white rice. Like I know that, I mean, white rice would also be, I mean like fluffy, well-prepared white rice.

37:30I get a lot of heat in my family for how much, like when there's rice somewhere, they're all like, ugh. So that's your carb. That's my carb. Yeah. Just the emptiest of carbs. I love it I love it it's bouncy fluffy versatile I'm into it it's like what flavor do you want me to catch for you that's what I feel like white rice is saying no I want noodles no why well one I think I'm a little bit of a disaster when I eat a noodle but I yeah I like I like strength in numbers I like when you have white rice you're like I feel like I'm gonna eat like 300 of you dudes yeah but I it doesn't go as far for me to order risotto I order pasta.

38:11Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I think that's too heavy. I think I like the lightness of white rice as opposed to, yeah, I agree. Risotto, yeah. Too thick, too heavy. You could like give or take it. So what's the starter in this Chinese meal? Well, so I went outside of Chinese for my starter. So that's my main is Chinese. I remember once there was, we went to a place in Nashville, like a barbecue place that had fried pickles as the starter. like deep fried like sliced pickles a little pickle disc deep fried oh it's making me we had Jonathan on and he's we acknowledged that he was a wet performer yeah because he's the wettest all he talked about was salivating the whole time and I just thought oh my god here it comes here it comes but that just made me salivate you've got him a giant like the screen guard on his microphone was he told me he was insulting the splash guard so so where's the place that you got the fried pickles this is again I feel like I did a good job of planning ahead and a bad job of not looking it up.

39:09But maybe I'll try to get it for your show notes. But I will say, I said on the day we ate them, I said to my wife, they should call these deathbed pickles because I think I'm going to think about them on my deathbed. Did you have a dip with it? Yeah, it was like a white creamy, not quite aioli, but ranchy? Yeah, but a little bit more interesting than ranch. So you've got that as a starter. Yep. We've got the Chinese. Yep. Is that your go-to place in New York? Are you allowed to share it? I have a lot of places I like in New York, but I would say I would not be picky about it. I kind of don't want to get too fancy with it.

39:45Where do you stand on duck with pancakes and plum sauce? I like it. Me too. Yeah, I like it. I would say that's, in fact, that's my favorite delivery system of duck in the world would be pancakes, hoisin sauce. Do your kids like it? I don't know if they've had a lot of duck, my kids. I feel like my kids are at the age where they still don't want to eat anything that looks cute in a book. right yeah although we had a pet goat or we didn't have a pet goat my wife had a pet goat and uh i remember we went to a restaurant once and they were like is there anything you won't eat because it was like one of those fancy restaurants and we were like no and then they brought out a course that was goat and uh we were laughing because my wife's like i don't think i can eat goat really and i was also we also agreed that it would have been fucking crazy if a waiter was like Is there any allergies?

40:34If you were like, we don't eat goat. You would be like, yeah, we know. Don't worry about it. What was the name? What's the name? Raisin. Raisin. Rest in peace, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Did you meet Raisin? I did. I didn't care for Raisin. I think goats are bad pets, but they weren't. My father-in-law was very... They can be vicious. Awful. They're awful animals. There's a reason people don't have them. Yeah. Why did they have it as a pet? Great story. My brother-in-law was going to cook it. Like, bought it. It was going to do, like, a goat, whatever, roast. And slaughter it. Yeah, slaughter it. And it was going to be for a big dinner party he was doing.

41:08Because he's a private chef. Okay. And then my father-in-law laid eyes. By the way, when you make eye contact with a goat, they're Satan's eyes. How can you? Aren't they like terrible? Just devilish sideways eyes. And he was just like, loving for Satan. And then Raisin lived with him for years. Did they get milk out of Raisin? No. Raisin was a boy. And a pain. And like head butted. How long did he live for? He did all right. I want to say, I don't know what is good for a goat, but it was around for like eight or nine years. Wow. Yeah. So after you've eaten all this fried stuff, which definitely is going to be your last supper.

41:47You're going to have a heart to death straight after. Because of it, right. Yeah. It's both the last meal and the cause of death. And what is your, do you go to have dessert? All right, guys, I don't have a sweet tooth. At all? Not really. I mean, if there's a dessert at the table, I'm going to try it all. but I have no, like I never, I'm the reverse groff when I think about dessert. Okay. It's just my mouth dries out. Okay. So if we were to offer you a slice of babka now. I would have babka. Babka's great. But I went for my last meal though, I do have an answer. Fine. But it's not because I like it.

42:19But I, you know like baked Alaska? Yes. I just feel like, just that excitement. I feel like if I'm going out, there's something like a Viking funeral about somebody lighting my dessert on fire. That's Alice's favorite. but like genuinely fun right that's what I wanted for fun yeah yeah we had a good baked Alaska Sunday the other day I mean it was a deconstructed Alaska but like so it just had basically torched meringue on the top yeah but it was a pistachio baked Alaska and I don't know why I'm telling you this because you don't have a sweet tooth so you're like literally drying up you're drying up no it's fine I mean it's you're just like yeah I kind of think it's a gift not a gift but a blessing not to have a Yeah, sweet tooth.

43:01Yeah. Yeah. So would you like cheese? I love, I will say, I love cheese so much that it's a problem. And when I go to a dinner party where there's a cheese course first, it's a disaster for me. Because I can't stop eating the cheese and it ruins everything. I can't even buy cheese because I would eat it. I love it so much. I love it so much. What's your best one? I love Gouda. Gouda. Yeah, I do. That was real. Do you know how they say it in Amsterdam? name? No. This would be if I was one of those awful people who went abroad and then used the word for, you know my favourite, chowder. Chowder. I love a good chowder.

43:40Chowder. Is your daughter going to start saying chowder? I hope, I hope not. I've got to ask a serious question. Well, not very serious. Do all the chat show hosts feel they have a responsibility in this political climate to challenge what's going on? I'll speak for myself. I know a lot of us here, certainly. I don't know if it's a responsibility as much as it is very clear to me it's how I want to use my time. Yeah. So it's, you know, I don't feel like, and I almost feel like it's a better show because it's what I deeply want to be talking about as opposed to something where I feel like I, and no one is asking it of me.

44:22I'm choosing to do it. Do you have any regret for basically encouraging Donald Trump to go for presidency? My answer was always like, no, nobody. I mean, I would have regret. Here's how I have regret. Explain to mom what happened. So in 2011, I hosted this dinner where you make fun. At the White House. It's in D.C. It's not at the proper White House. But I was on a dais with President Obama and Michelle Obama. A night, by the way, that both my wife and mom said, don't, because you have dinner on a dais. And they were so worried that I was going to have to eat food next to Michelle Obama. They just said, just don't eat.

44:56so then you make fun of the president you make fun of both parties but donald trump in 2011 was just this blowhard businessman and at the time he was really sort of ringing the bell for the fact that uh barack obama was not a real american was not born in the country and so we both myself and president obama made a great deal of fun of him um that night deservedly so and he a lot of people say that's the night he decided to run for president. Now, I would regret it if... Christ. I would regret it if even one person in the run-up to it, when I was rehearsing, said, I think these are great jokes.

45:33Just FYI, he might run for and win president. You know what I mean? Like, it was so far afield of what anybody could have done. Have you met him? I have. Have you interviewed him? Lovely. You know what? My God, lovely. He makes a great baked Alaska. No, I met him a couple of days. He hosted Saturday Night Live back in like, I think 2004 when he was a host of that show, The Apprentice. I didn't realize. How was that? Were you on the show at that point? I was on the show. And what was the feeling then? Was it like? It was just sort of. It was a bit of a joke? Yeah. Yeah. Just sort of a buffoon. And weirdly, because I.

46:08We're never getting back in the country, by the way. Yeah. Okay, cool. I mean, I probably won't after my trip to Amsterdam. but uh you know he he didn't have a sense of humor save for the fact that when people i remember when he was in front of the audience when the audience started laughing he liked that it was working so he's just sort of drawn to the light of what people like as opposed to i think having any internal compass for what is good so who you've interviewed everybody basically everybody A fair amount of people. And have you ever really regretted how an interview's gone? Not necessarily in the sense that like you affect, just that you wish you kind of stayed up being like, damn, I wish I'd done it differently.

46:56Yeah, there's a couple. I mean, for certainly, and in a way it has taught me a valuable lesson, which is there's probably more strength in the show when you just have guests on that you think will be a good conversation as opposed to having guests on that you think will be an important conversation. It's a very nice structure of the show, which is we use the first chunk of it to talk about what's going on in the news. And then I think transitioning to having guests who are good talkers and making work that you respect and love, that's more fun than trying to be contentious. This is a bipartisan criticism.

47:35every politician is a pretty bad talk show guest they just want to say you know the stuff they have tested and and they'll come with three canned jokes that they're going to tell no matter what there's no way to get them away from it and so it's also funny i think it was it must have been i guess 2020 there was a really big democratic primary field before it sort of solidified around joe biden we had almost all of them on and it was so funny because you'd say our next guest is running to be the Democratic candidate for the president of the United States. And the audience was so excited because you could feel they were like, oh, my God, we might be seeing the next president.

48:08And then a minute or two into the interview, you just felt them sit back being like, they're not going to be the next president. This isn't going to be the next president. And so we just are like, let's talk about the news. But then when we actually have conversations, let's – because, again, I have no regrets when I'm talking to a person that I want to be talking to because I know how to have those conversations. it's when you're trying to I don't know in the body of an interview when you're trying to prove a point those are the ones where I think you regret afterwards because you sometimes come a little bit out of yourself can I help you one's a date and it looks like it's got like some date and chocolate and one's just chocolate yeah I'll try that but I don't know which one's which do you want some more coffee how many coffees do you want a day oh it's bad is it but i feel like you're being quite like well i'm on that's i guess you guys gave me my second okay but i will say when i'm at work on a show day i i just sort of and not even because i'm falling asleep but just the anxiety it's like a a tick to just keep getting more coffee before we let you go can you give us a nostalgic taste or scent that can transport you about somewhere well I mean I sort of I I guess I sort of blew this one but I will only say that I went and visited my brother who lives in LA and I was I went to his house in LA and we were talking and I was there was something I had this familiarity was like tickling like sort of the back of whatever cortex it is that holds the memories and I was like what's going on like I couldn't place it and then it turned out because it was uh right around my birthday he had called my mom to get the old Chex Mix recipe and he was made and so when he opened it was that real like like oh like in a cartoon where uh the scent like actually like grabs Bugs Bunny by the nose and so that but that is very much my I would say my favorite smell I love that I'm gonna try and make that do you think it's the buttery scent I think the butter I think none of the uh parts that make it good are good for you.

50:15But I've got to get you my mom's recipe. There's some knockoff recipes out there that try to make it too fancy. And you call it Chex Mix? We do, yeah. Okay. Are you okay with that title? Kind of. But I don't know if we can get all the ingredients at home. We can improvise with like a shrimp. No, we're going to send you. Okay. Yeah, I'm already worried that you're improvising. Yeah. Seth Meyers, thank you so much for coming on. Did I do okay? Did I make the cut for another visit? Are you kidding me? Absolutely. This was the best. I feel bad that we didn't cook. I mean, it's fine. I had babka. I had a mimosa.

50:50Well, it's been a pleasure to have you on and actually chat to you. You always, can I just say, I know, and everyone probably says this, you always make time for the guests when you come on. Like, when I've sung on your show, we always get a really nice photo. I love your photographer for that. He's very good. Lloyd, he's from Scotland. Love that. Lloyd. Lloyd. Lloyd. Yeah. Love Lloyd. Yeah. Like, I also realize that I look really young in it, so that's really nice. Yes. And that's nice. And it's like, I feel like. Of the pictures of us together, I like the first one. And it's just really, you make everyone feel so special.

51:22And you're brilliant at what you do. And you're very funny. Let me just say, I mean, obviously, we've met a couple times on the show. I know, I know. And I've been a terrified pop star in that situation. So this has been an exponential improvement in our friendship. And what a delight. I mean, truth be told, I came in with very high expectations. No, I know. is going to go. I mean, again, you listen and it sounds like it's going to be a blast and it even was more fun than I thought it would be. Thank you. Did we argue with you? I would have liked a little bit more. The mother-daughter tension.

51:53A bit more of a bicker. That's kind of my kink. Yeah. It's kind of mine now. Thank you.

52:14Seth Meyers, what a guy. I knew it. I just knew. I loved having an hour and a half with him to just chat. Those eyes. Yeah, well, you pointed that out very quickly, Lily. I couldn't help it. They kind of shine at you. They're kind of bright sapphire blue. Yeah, he was lovely and so warm. He's so nice. And so nice. And I loved hearing stories about his family. He's a family man. Absolutely. Yeah. You can watch his HBO special, Dead Man Walking, on HBO if you've got HBO. Can we get it in the UK? We're going to find where you can watch Dead Man Walking and put it in the show notes. Mum, that's it.

52:52I know. I'm quite sad. Me too. Thank you, The High Line Standard, because they've been so helpful and kind. Yeah, shout out to Christian and Emily. Christian, Emily, and Elijah, and Nadine, who looked after me. Who gave you lots of wine. Lots of wine. It's been such good fun. that we've got to do it again. I think we do. It's been such a hoot. We've had so much fun. Also, thank you to Jake Cohen for lending us his kitchen. Being a food facilitator. And also giving us some gorgeous dishes to serve. His cookbook is out in September, Dinner Party Animal. We're just off to the airport now. I don't want to go home.

53:31I want to see my children. I can't wait. I hope so. I absolutely do. But I do love New York and it has given us everything. and thank you so much to all our guests that have come on this series. Let us know if you'd like us to do another one and hey, maybe you can even decide another destination that you think we should go to. We're quite up for this. Thailand. Oh.

53:56After White Lotus. Okay, yeah, I'm up for it. Australia. Australia, sure. Thank you for listening and we'll see you next week.

54:31We'll see you next time.

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