Sharon Horgan

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1:05Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Lenny. She looks like she's about to start a fight. Are you OK? Not starting a fight, but I just want you to know that I rushed back from my school reunion to make the main course. How was your school reunion? Well, I need to tell you that I didn't know this, that they showed, they had a picture of me when I was much younger, one of the girls, one of the women. Or my age. Girls. And my nickname, apparently, at school was Sexy Lenny. Oh, my God. Stop. And their husbands, who I don't even know, call me Sexy Lenny. Oh, my God. So weird.

1:46It's weird. That's strange. Hold on. This is a school reunion? Yeah. It's a school lunch. And they all called you sexy? At what age did you get the name Sexy Lenny? At 12 or 13? I hope it was when I was about 18. What were you doing, Lenny? That's the way I looked, darling. It was just sex appeal. X Factor. Oozed it. In Manchester. Yeah. You had that. Yeah. How does that make you feel, sexy? I felt quite sexy. I felt quite good to be honest. After that. Anyway, I'm going to shout out to my friends who might listen now. Yeah. Because they thought I was doing a blog. A blog. Older people always talk about blogs, not podcasts, don't they?

2:27They're about 15 years behind. I'm going to shout out to Adrian, Philippa, Maureen. Yeah. Vanessa, Ruth and Marcel. You know what? If Scott Mills hadn't just got that breakfast gig for Radio 2, I think, Lenny, you could have been in with a chance. Do you think? To take over, dear Zoe Ball. Do you think? I have to do my own shout out. We had a big birthday party at the weekend. The best party in the whole universe. It was pretty amazing. Me and Sam had a joint 40th and 10-year wedding anniversary, which I think on reflection maybe appears quite smug, and I apologise if anyone thinks that's smug.

3:02But we decided to quite camply renew our vows, dressed almost like a poor man, Sonny and Cher. Sam had hair for the first time, I think in his life. He wore a wig. I wore a wig. The kids were there. It was really amazing. And we had the most amazing band that we'd seen at Wilderness called Brassique. And if anybody is at festivals this year, it was their second gig. And I saw them and I was completely mad about them at the festival. and so I messaged them to see if they wanted to do it and they did and I'm so lucky because they were unbelievable. I walked down the aisle to a beautiful queen singing Nessun Dorma.

3:42It was fab. And also dear darling Bestley who is my favourite DJ in the world also bought her gorgeous ooh la la macarons as our kind of tower of birthday cake because I think birthday cake can be quite overrated sometimes and the macarons were perfect so thank you so much um bestly but we had the best time it was wicked it was at riverley ballroom which is the most beautiful venue everyone dressed up everyone danced and i'm a bit sad it's over i know onto the podcast we have somebody that i am quite mad about i was obsessed with her when catastrophe came out we've had her co-staff from Catastrophe on a few weeks ago Rob Delaney it's Sharon Horgan I approached Sharon Horgan at I think a glamour awards show and just shouted in her face that something you loved that I loved her and she was very nice to me she's gone on to do amazing things since Catastrophe this way up with Aisling Bea who we adore which I thought was like two of the most brilliant series and I want to know whether that's going to come back but we're here to talk about her latest bad sisters bad sisters second season on Apple TV plus and those sisters they are bad they are badass they are amazing the sorority and just how well Sharon so I think it was a it was a story a Belgian story that Sharon and her production team adapted and now we're into the second season and yeah there's a big shock in the second episode which I did not see coming and Sharon's come on to talk about Bad Sisters.

5:38So I have just come to motherland. Where have you been mum? I know but I thought it was for more your age group and I wouldn't enjoy it. You're a mother. But I want to know which one she'd be. Liz is my favourite the northern the northern one she's the best so yeah she's worked with Sarah Jessica Parker on divorce she's prolific oh shit I've watched all of that and what have you made mum I've made a salmon en croute with a dill we haven't done that ever I think no a dill beurre blanc sauce did you go for the prosecco sauce no I put white wine in and I might put a drop more in because it doesn't taste very winey to me do you want a glass of wine now I need something Sharon Horgan coming up on Table Lines

6:39I might take my jacket off, that's alright Can I just say Sharon Horgan has just come in She looks like one of Charlie's Angels Really? It's gorgeous. You look unbelievable. Well, I'm doing this, you know, press tour for Bad Sisters. So this very nice lady, Rachel, you know. Who we made friends with in Comic Relief. How was that? This week. Right. Yeah. Well, she's given me a load of nice outfits. So this is one of them. It's really good. You should teach this. She gives you the whole thing. Like rings and necklaces. I love the jacket. Yeah, but it's such a good colour. I think you should. The really wide trousers.

7:15Oh, look at those shoes. She's got a Louboutins. They are high. I know, well good job on sitting down You look amazing Do you walk around like this all the time? No, not at all, no ask my daughters No, not at all, just tracksuit bottoms and t-shirts I suppose Thank you for being here And you've brought your two gorgeous daughters along I have, yeah How old are they? I wonder, shall I say, because you've just given them boat champagne She's going to be 21 in January She's allowed And one of them is 16 which you're allowed when you have that's fine we're Mediterranean it's fine and it's yeah are they bad sisters they're really good to each other sisters so they're good sisters yeah they're really nice to each other they love each other they're mad about each other and they are I mean less nice to me obviously but that's oh don't tell me that's going to happen because my daughter adores me at the moment oh yeah no that will happen yeah what age should I be looking forward to that well Well, it sort of depends.

8:20But early teens, they start to turn on you. But not, I mean, I feel like Aimer hasn't really. Aimer, have you turned on me? They wouldn't still be here with you tonight if they turned on you. No, they kind of go off you quite heavily. And then it sort of sorts itself out and then they come back. I just need to ask, do you think your mum is cool? Absolutely. Absolutely, okay. That's great. she is cool she is like very cool very cool I can tell so there we go it's like family therapy I'm having up for the books and your daughters think you're cool so I think you're doing fine that's amazing hold on a minute what do you need mate sorry my son has just walked in you need to go to bed my love it's the new one yeah it's in there oh man it is right come on mate he's cute as hell okay you can take the bottle there if you want some hold on And let me just top this up.

9:16Yeah, top it up, darling. You know where we started getting really into Bolly? We had Joanne Lumley on the pod. Oh, my God. So she's, I'm working with her at the moment. How lovely is she? Yeah, because we are the best. She's just so divine. I mean, and so beautiful. So we're doing a Motherland spin-off. She's the mother in it, isn't she? She's the mom. So she plays Amanda's... Mum doesn't know her yet. I don't know. I'm only second way through the second series. Okay, so she... I think she comes in in the second season. I can't remember. But anyway, she's amazing. Is she Amanda's mum? She's Amanda's mum.

9:49Can you imagine that? So Amanda Land is the spin-off, and it's her and Joanna Lumley playing for us to your mum. And Anne, who was Amanda's sidekick in Motherland. Irish Anne. And then this whole new cast. Amazing. I'm so excited for people to see it. I should have done you Prosecco and Spag Bowl tonight. It's so frigging good. Shana, are you Liz? I love Liz. No, I'm not, Liz. I kind of wish I was a bit, I think I'm probably a bit of all of them. A bit of all of them. Less Kevin. Less Kevin. Yeah, not so much Kevin. He's so good at it. He's so amazing, isn't he? He's so amazing. Yeah. Kevin. Would you be in the next season in Amanda Land?

10:29Oh, I'm not. I'm not in Amanda Land. But in the, you know, if we do another season of Amanda Land, maybe, because it's just so much fun. It's so much fun watching them. And now it's like sort of teenagers. You know, we kind of jumped on a few years. so it's that kind of yeah I mean you haven't got to that yet but that's you're experiencing it real life so you've had your teenagers and that's kind of so that's yeah how it works brilliant yeah I can't wait for that I just yeah I can't wait for you to see but we're here we're here we're talking about bad sisters yeah the baddest of sisters what a cast thank you I mean I'm saying thank you but no it was you must have been involved in the casting and all of it you must have been involved worked with before and you know and some i sort of admired from afar and uh but yeah we got really lucky we got really really lucky with that cast it also makes me want to go to ireland yeah it's so much it's really good for the irish tourist board yeah i think oh that that's great we want to do cold water swimming and i'm not that gal yeah well none of us are well actually Eve Hewson's, I wouldn't say into it, but she grew up around the corner from where the 40 foot is.

11:42So she's kind of used to doing it. But like Eva Berthesel and Sarah Green, I think, you know, there's a lot of things they'd rather do than get in the cold water. It's Baltic. I don't know what it is about that particular spot. Oh, my God. It's freezing. Can we just, because I know that we're recording this when episode four has just dropped. I'm up to episode three Okay Is Daryl coming back? Because I'm sorry You've missed a fucking trip on this But hang on You saw him in episode three I haven't seen him in four I haven't seen him in three Yeah you did No I fucking didn't He walks into the back of the church I missed that bit I must have been answering A fucking text about table manners You double screener Shit I am Yeah he walks in the back of the church And Becca's just like What the hell Did you find him?

12:33Do you know what Daryl McCormack lived around the corner from me in Hackney for the whole time I was there and I never saw him and then when we were casting Bad Sisters one of the actually the lady who runs the local store he lived just above her shop and she was like you've got to see this incredibly fit Irishman who's an actor and then and then Nina Gold who cast it sent me through this list and he happened to be on the list But that was the first time I'd sort of seen or heard of him And he was also in the Emma Thompson film But that happened after that Well no he kind of coincided Coincided yeah But I hadn't you know I'd heard about that as we started casting Is he married?

13:15He's not Is he in a relationship? Does he like older women? I don't know the answer to that But he has got a girlfriend I just remembered He told us He came to the premiere in New York He's so amazing So he does actually four get in there. Well then that's what I'm going to be doing. What? Watching that without my husband and enjoying Daryl. Daryl is gorgeous. Him and Eve's. Everyone's watched Bad Sisters so everyone knows Eve's character is called, what's her name? Becca. And their chemistry together. Their chemistry was really good. It's some of the best chemistry on television. Speaking of other good chemistry, you and Rob Delaney.

13:59I mean we had Rob on a few weeks ago Did you? He's a very attractive man We don't just objectify all men I do You do But he is particularly handsome I had a child I had my daughter And I was living in East London And catastrophe When did catastrophe come out? I don't know I lose track of everything I don't understand time anymore So I think it was around the time that I was having a child around 2016 or maybe a bit earlier no it wasn't well I was walking around yeah because I was walking around playgrounds like you did like trying to defend people and I basically thought I was your character isn't it a really hard hard time I used to see like mums having picnics without me I know I wonder how what where is that how how did they organize that what is that whatsapp group but then and and the reason why like motherland kind of was sort of you know not easy to write but like kind of had to be written is is that once you once you do find your tribe you know once you find those people that's it you're it's amazing your life your life changes everything becomes easier with your kids and like my the mums i met at the at the school gates are still like my closest pal did you ever have to ask their um permission to write any particular stories yeah yeah quite quite a lot well not motherland really because most of the characters are just completely fictional there was a few characters in in catastrophe that were based on people but people didn't notice so i didn't have to yeah but definitely storylines i've that i've wholesale taken from friends i've i've asked and i've sort of you know explained the scenes definitely stuff in motherland definitely scenes in divorce and they're they're they're fine like as long as i think you because i used to do it without asking and that's not so good did you ever get in trouble well i i didn't get in trouble i had people contact me out from the past who found my old hotmail email and and go well you know we used to live together in you know blah blah shared accommodation i recognized that scene from but not in an antagonistic way they should be flattered I don't know, I feel like maybe it wasn't the right thing to do, I didn't ask permission but now I do and also they kind of like it you know let's talk about around the dinner table your daughter Sahia actually maybe you would like to come on the mic and say what's your mum's best meal that she cooks who wants to get on the mic they're kind of a little bit sort of mean about my cooking but I think they have to I think I am a good cook yeah well you make two things really well the cauliflower head sitting on yogurt which we said we liked once and then we have a lot but it's great and salmon and rice with all the vegetables and seaweed seaweed salmon and rice I actually make a really good roast chicken dinner as well but Saivi doesn't eat chicken anymore so Aimee what do you think about that she just rolled her eyes oh why don't speak to your mother like that so if you have one pescatarian does that control the whole thing we end up just eating fish a lot don't we and then on Sundays or like if people come round for lunch we do like a fish for saiby and then roast like a meat usually chicken because it's easy I love roast chicken I love all the roasts where did you grow up?

17:53I grew up in a place called Belle Eustown in County Meath in Ireland you know I'm Irish I didn't know that get the hell out of town I'm such a big baby that I can actually feel the effects of half a glass of champagne me too actually it's terrible But I've been desperate for a glass of champagne. But, yeah, it's such a delicious... I love champagne, don't you? I love it too. Me too. So you grew up in County Meath. County Meath, yeah. Yeah. Where is that? That's just north of Dublin in Southern Ireland, yeah. How many people were in your family? So there's five brothers and sisters, including me.

18:31A big family. Two brothers and three girls. And what did your parents do? Did they work? My dad was, unfortunately, we lost him last year. Actually, this year he died on the 27th of December. He was a turkey farmer. But he does so many things previous to that. He was, you know, he worked on, he built, well, not single-handedly, the underground in London. He was a carpenter. He was a publican. he was yeah he did all sorts so did you live in London a bit as well yeah I was born in London which my more Irish brothers and sisters won't let me and my older sister Maria forget but you don't have a Cockney accent no but we did when we were little we moved to Ireland when I was three and my elder sister was four Irish twins and then we had these little Cockney accents because we were born in Hackney and then my parents had a pub called the White Thorn in Bow.

19:39Oh my gosh, is it still there? No, it was knocked down. Knocked down? Yeah, we used to go and see it when my mum and dad would come over from Ireland. We would go and visit it. It should have been a blue plaque. Bloody right. And last time my mum and I went, which was young, actually, it was gone. And we were a bit, it messed us up a bit. And then we went to a pub nearby and the piano that used to be the piano in our pub was in the pub around the corner. We found it. So there's a new telly series in that. That is the opening. The piano. Well, it's a film, isn't it? It's a really depressing film that, you know, will touch a lot of hearts.

20:21But yeah, publicans. So publicans in Bow in the East End. And then when we moved to Ireland first in County Leach in Ireland, we had another pub called the Green Kiwi. And my dad had a kiwi tattooed on his arm. He was a New Zealander. Oh, he was a New Zealander. Yeah, yeah. So did you like lamb? Yeah, actually, we kept lambs for a while. But lambs are the reason why I stopped eating meat and became a vegetarian for 20 years. Because you loved the lamb. Well, we had lambs and they were like, lambs are great. I know. And our two lambs would come up to our back door and they would just sort of bang their little hooves.

21:00So lambs do that? They do if they want to get into the house. And we were really attached to them. And then one day I was eating a sandwich, weirdly, and I asked what was in it. It was some kind of meat. And my dad said, that's... Actually, the lambs were called chops and cutlets, which wasn't as great. Oh, my God. He goes, that's chops. And I got really upset Of course you did And I became a vegetarian on that day And I stayed one for 20 years But your dad was pleased You must have thought you'd gone mad It was so fed up with me Yeah it was very annoying So who did the cooking? So my mum did almost all the cooking And was a really nice cook And we, you know, like on Friday We would come home and it would be fish and chips With homemade chips homemade chips the greatest and then my dad would always do these like speciality meals so you know when he did cook he would cook something pretty fantastic you know or even like he would do like American burgers and he would do you know line everything up on the counter so like pickles, lettuce tomatoes you know exactly and he used to make this like these sort of amazing milk puddings and you know curries and just like he when he when he cooked he'd sort of go to town and then as as he and my mum um got older and when dad retired he started cooking more and he was a really really good cook jess that's probably ready then um did you do the sauce or not i've got it on i think bring it over here fine did you yeah the sauce just needs warming with a bit of dylan i might take off my dinner jacket for dinner because i'm getting hot it's schvizzi in here yeah mum it looks really good it does look i'm actually tempted to do it as a dinner party thing do it what what's on top of the salmon what's on top of the salmon is it the mushrooms there's mushrooms that are blitzed with um some borderland cheese and some spinach it's so good Why do you like me, pepper and salt?

23:17I'm a pepper fiend, so there is, yeah. My dad covers everything in pepper so much that whatever's on his plate just becomes black. So we've all taken on that. My girls as well. You've always been hackney then, when you've been in London? No, no. What am I home about? I started off in Manor House. Oh, did you go to squat raves, Sharon? I lived in a squat for like three and a half years I'd say How was that? It was just like living in a flat but Cheaper Cheaper yeah And noisier I was in a tower block And then I moved to a squat in Camden for a really brief amount of time And then I started renting in Camden Then I rented in a housing cooperative in Camden for about six years And then I moved to Stockwell But sort of like Bordered with Brixton Like more sort of Brixton And then Bermondsey And then Hackney for the last 21 years That's ages What was the food like?

24:29Do you need more sauce? No, no, this is gorgeous What was the food like in the squat? We got food from the Krishnas all the time Was it nice? Really nice. There was a couple of, a couple of, so there was so many people in this tower block, you know, on the various different floors and then we would come together and eat together. And a few of them were into, you know, Hare Krishna. And so obviously the Krishnas wanted more people to come on board. So they would come out to us, to the squat in the tower block and do sort of, you know, ceremonies and then they would feed us at the end So you had to watch the ceremony to get the grub?

25:16Yeah, but a few of us were into it What did you consider? Me? No But a few of them, yeah a few of us, a few of the really stoked ones So there was a lot of you know, food that we sort of learnt to make from the kind of food that they made, you know um what do you call it like sort of dry curries you know where you're just sort of cooking the spices and adding the veg and potatoes all vegetarian everyone was either a vegetarian or a vegan you know rice dishes and um like galubjumans you know those um sort of very very sweet dessert yeah ball things that you eat out of syrup yeah it was all vegetarian that's that's what we ate and we would do like because it was sort of accumunal a lot of the time it would just be these great big pans of like spicy vegetables the market's uncertain revenues tied and hiring on hold that's why results driven companies are using upwork to keep work moving go to upwork.com today and start hiring proven freelance talent fast.

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27:31Last supper, Sharon. We asked people, last supper, it would be before you're about to go to a desert island for a very long time. Right. And it would be your ideal last supper. Starter, main, dessert, drink of choice. Okay. A starter. Well, I love like a really good prawn cocktail. You know, really big, juicy, chunky prawns and great dressing and like really simple because I feel like if you have too big of a starter you're just Would you have it in the avocado or would you just have it on its own with ground bread and where is the best prawn cocktail that you've had, can you remember? Actually the Shelbourne in Dublin do a great one Is that the hotel?

28:23Yeah, most places in Ireland do really good either prawn cocktail or smoked salmon on brown bread but I think it would be that I think it would be either that or smoked salmon on rye bread? on soda bread yeah I think so drink of choice? like would I get a drink to have at the start? you can do whatever you want I'd probably have like a tequila with I'd drink George Cleaney's tequila so does Jessie right it's the orangey one not the not the clear one okay so right and then with with ice loads of ice and loads of fresh um orange juice squeezed into it and then a couple of slices of orange main what would the main be it would either be the world's greatest lasagna okay or if it wasn't the world's greatest lasagna it'd be like a beef uh wellington Oh so this was nearly it Yeah yeah in fact that's what I had for my Wedding day Beef Wellington You've got a really good Beef Wellington Pudding Pudding 100 % Trifle Like without You should have done trifle It's my I make at Christmas It's my big thing What flavour So I do sort of like A berry one Me too But I do it It's very old school It's not even old school It's just not classy Do you use jelly?

30:02I use jelly No I don't Yours is not that much classier mum To be honest But listen I do So I do I do like You know the sponge fingers That all goes down Soak that in In sherry And then All the fruit All the berries And then Then jelly, so it would be like a strawberry or raspberry jelly, like a lot. And then really good custard. Do you make your own custard? Or do you get a shop-bought? Shop-bought. No, you use powder. No, do you do the powder? I do the powder. Oh, yeah. Birds. That's kind of like a cross between shop-bought and homemade, isn't it? Yeah. You've got to get it right. You're not doing eggs and sugar.

30:49I think that's homemade. I think that's homemade. And then like just tons of cream and then roasted almonds, like slithers of chocolate flake. It's a whole thing. Is it great, girls? It's giant. So good. And I used to make a different one for my dad because he loved it sort of old school with like tins of fruit cocktail. You know, proper old school. So lots of tins of fruit cocktail on top of your spot. So where do you get your berries from? So I... Just frozen, frozen berries. That's what I do now. She used to do tinned raspberries though, I love that But really boozy, right? Well, I don't use booze because Alex doesn't drink My son doesn't drink, so I don't use booze I do too, I do too Yeah, sometimes, yeah But I like, you know, where it goes Yeah, but I use Swiss roll Instead of sponge fingers He's slushed Because it's got a bit more raspberry in Oh, that's so good without the cream I might try that but I feel like everyone would get angry because if you try if you try and do I think I tried to do cauliflower one year for Christmas everyone was so angry is this the cauliflower in the tahini no it wasn't it was just like I don't know it was some kind of slightly fancy cauliflower but not that not that fancy and yeah everyone just was really angry you know what would it have been instead well you know it would just be Brussels sprouts red cabbage roast potatoes roast parsnips and they got annoyed about cauliflower yeah because they were like what the hell are you doing but we would have four meats four different ones so a ham, a lamb no no no ham, turkey beef but what kind of beef beef wellington No.

32:47Spiced beef, like pastrami kind of style. Like a brisket? Yes, like a brisket, but better. I think it was a good recipe. Well, my dad would just get it from a certain butcher's and they would do all the spicing and then you just cook it. Oh, delicious. And we would go to the... Was it slow cooked? Yes, slow cooked. Wow. And then goose. Jeez! I've never done goose. So Christmas is big for you guys. Yeah. And then all the different sauces that go with that, you know. So like a cranberry sauce, then a bread sauce. How many people came? Like 18, I guess. It kind of gets bigger every year because of...

33:29But you'd need about 80 to eat all that. No, but you just keep eating that for a week. So we've got your dinner. We've got your dinner. Did we get your drink? We got the tequila. Yes. Are you sticking with tequila? No, I mean, I wouldn't. I mean, I'm not a psychopath. I wouldn't. No. I like it. It's kind of sexy. I just mean like that would be a nice one. You know, when you're hovering about before the actual meal starts, don't you find that tequila, kind of like champagne, kind of gets you giddy rather than drunk? It's a different kind of, isn't it? It just makes you kind of giddy. It's great.

34:01You get drunk on half a glass of champagne. You're a lightweight. Well, it's because I gave up for like a really good chunk of time. And then I actually started again just after dad died because I thought I need to just go and drink Guinness in the pub with my family. And now I'm like, I'm a bit of a lightweight. I haven't fully gotten... But you don't drink a lot. No, but when I drink, I drink like an Irish person, yeah. What's the memorable... I'm going to ask you your memorable, like, nostalgic taste and you can think about that. Okay. Because I was doing the dinner when you were talking about being in a pub.

34:41You must have spent a lot of time in pubs. with your parents being publicans. When I was little, yeah. When you were little. And what was the soundtrack to your growing up in a pub? What was played a lot? Because I can imagine there were certain songs. Oh my God. Did you have a jukebox? Definitely a jukebox in the Port Arlington place because I remember it. But in the place in Bow, it was the piano and that was it. They really prided themselves on this incredible pianist that they found. and the rest of the time they just wanted like just chat. Did they like live music? Yeah, they did. I mean, it's funny because my mum and dad would never really, they didn't play much music in the house.

35:21So it kind of, you know, they were both so into it. But I mean, we had a handful of records when I was little. It felt like there was very little music around. So what style of music did they like? Like my dad was a big sort of, you know, Frank Sinatra kind of. Crooners. Yeah, yeah. loved all that sort of brat pack kind of thing rat pack I mean um and mum I don't know I guess um mum would have liked more sort of like whatever we were listening to you know kind of popular culture um oh well at what point okay tweens tweens oh tweens tweens I was absolutely um Duran Duran kind of new romantic Adam and the Ants.

36:08And then I got very, very heavily into David Bowie when I was, I guess, 12, 13. Oh, OK. And then so then it was Bowie and Kate Bush. And yeah, they were they were my soundtrack for a lot of my teens. And then and then, of course, like, you know, the Smiths and Joy Division. You're an indie girl. You're an indie girl. Yeah You like the Smith Oh God Are you miserable now? I I Saw Johnny Marr play Really recently Oh he's lovely We had him on the podcast He's amazing But I saw that I loved it He was so lovely And I told him that I saw him play When I was 14 In a pub In Dundalk In County Lyth In Ireland And he absolutely Remembered That tour When it When it all Kicked off When Morrissey Said something Very controversial And then they all had to sort of you know something about the ira i can't remember but anyway yeah they had this really tricky time sort of where they had to have proper security and stuff and they were touring around or on them but that was that was when i saw them and yeah we we were we were obsessed we we dressed like goths but we were we were indie really because i don't i never really fully got into what did you have dyed long black hair like dyed long black hair all the black clothes like vintage black you know very sort of like little fitted jackets and you know sort of very kind of glam for 15 year old country girls um but you know i mean i listened to the cure and susie but outside of that i wasn't you know i didn't have sort of big sort of goth when did you get back to england then when i was 19 i moved to england when i dropped out of art college in Dublin and I moved to London literally to make my fortune.

37:58Of course you did. Have you done stand-up? No. I've done live comedy, live sketch comedy. I've never, never, I wouldn't be, wouldn't be brave enough to be myself you know, on stage. I don't understand comedians, they terrify me. Are all stand-ups comedians? Are all stand-ups themselves? themselves or do they well i guess i guess they take on a bit of a yeah yeah but i used to you know i used to i mean i used to go and watch stand-up all the time it was an obsession of mine but yeah it was never something i thought i was never something i thought i'd be brave enough to do but it's weird because now i do like i do live i can do live tv and i do like i interviewed stanley tucci at the palladium and there was like a lot of people there and it didn't i was found it easy enough to be myself but and i like an audience like i don't know what that says about me but i do i just want to actually take a moment to say this way up was absolutely amazing astonishing well that was ashling's show i mean we merriman made it but that's that's you and ashling you're fabulous together amazing oh thank you i loved it so much yeah she's so clever she is really clever i have to say about bad sisters i love the kitchen scenes there always It seems to be like, even when you're like shooting from the fridge, like it centres around that kitchen, the big discussions.

39:23Do you not think it's done? I don't know. I've never made bread about a thing. Is it spongy? If you touch it, then it's done. It's done. Yeah. Yeah, I love those scenes as well. They're a real bugger to shoot because, you know, usually they're big ensemble scenes like the Christmas one and the Easter one. And we did a lot this season as well. but they yeah they take a lot of time to shoot and anything sort of ensemble is tricky but they're the scenes I love the most because you get that real feeling of like what it is to be in a big family I love it and that house I know you know in the second season we had to just build a new one because the first the first one was knocked down and developed oh my god so no so this is this is why Dervlo world show director is so amazing because what they had to do was find somewhere a location that matched and it was such a specific location because it was overlooking the sea, it was wild and it was as well.

40:24So we found this area in Wicklow because that house was in Hoth and we found an area in Wicklow that sort of matched it up and it ended up being so perfect because we used the whole area around and the sea and everything but yeah we built this house we built a little house, half a house it's only half a house where is it now? I don't know have you ever taken a thing? I think I've blown down maybe no, I don't know where it is it's either in a box somewhere or it's still there have you got your own house in Ireland though? no I don't you need one I've got a house in LA which was like in uh beachwood oh how lovely gorgeous yeah i love beach yeah where is your first spot that you go to when you're in la we go to the um beachwood cafe and we eat a load of eggs we hike you know we go on a big old hike usually up to the to the sign or we go to um griffith park we go to las felis we go to fred 62s Do you go to Clark Street Diner?

41:39No, I don't know that one So it's just on Fairfax You know the one that used to be the 101 or something Yes, I used to stay there I felt a bit sad when it stopped being just a 90 diner Oh no, it's fabulous It's the same, they've kept the interiors exactly the same Yeah, they do a really good Oreo cookie milkshake with peanut butter The food is fabulous, it's my favourite Where else do we go girls? The Alcove The Alcove, we always go to the Alcove Which is on Franklin, is it? Yeah. We also go to the Oaks, just opposite Gelson's, and Lappie Bell, and... I love Gelson. I tried to get into the Scientology Church once.

42:17Why? They were having an open day. Good to see. I'm fascinated. Are you? Yeah. And what, did they let you have it? Not in a way that I would be attracted to it, but just in a way that I find it so creepy. Saffir's is next door to it. Yeah, did they let you in? No, I didn't. Why? They wouldn't. I thought, I'm going to get in here because it's an open day, and there was this whole thing like saying we welcome I think they must have just told from my cynical chops Alice what's the matter Darling how much Small Smaller than that bit No that looks good Give her a little bit of a crunch That's the crunch darling It looks very sad It's custardy That's how it's supposed to be Everything has been beige Sorry No.

43:05Just have some more cream with you. I will absolutely not. Please, please help yourself to more cream. It's really delicious. Is that like brioche? It's panettone. Panettone. Is this for me? Yeah. What is the nostalgic taste? We've had your nostalgic kind of sounds of the pub, but what's the nostalgic taste from your childhood or somewhere? I would say like my mum used to make like scones. She would use like treacle and makes the treacle and raisin kind of scones. So any sort of home baked scone type bun type thing feels really nostalgic. I mean, ice creams like there's very specific ice creams that you get in Ireland that you can't get anywhere else.

43:54So there's brunch. The girls will back me up on this. One of the great one of the greatest ice creams ever invented. What is it? So it's like a vanilla and strawberry ice cream And it's covered in sort of crumbs Like biscuit crumbs that are also strawberry and vanilla It's amazing Who makes it? Which make is it? I'm googling it I don't know Walls maybe? I can't remember And you can't get it here No you cannot get it here And then there's a loop de loop Which is sort of like a lime and chocolate ice lolly So nostalgic Oh that does look good It's really good. Brunch. It's even better than that, guys.

44:34It's even better than that picture. Brunch. This looks great. So it's kind of like a feast. It's not even like a feast. It's kind of like a feast with a strawberry centre. Feasts have got a big log of horrible chocolate in the middle. I disagree. I really like a feast. Do you eat Tato's as well? And Tato's. Yeah, Tato's are nostalgic. And there was this one ice cream that they don't do anymore. I think it's a tragedy called a wibbly wobbly wonder You have to google that one A wibbly wobbly wonder It was sort of like a lime No like a lemon jelly And in it It's really hard to explain It's like an ice pot No a wibbly Wobbly Wibbly wobbly wonder Give me Oh and an ice burger You get ice burgers here No Have you ever had a Oh, well, it looked very like a jiggly pop.

45:31So it is like a jiggly pop. Maybe it's... Yeah, so it's a jiggly pop. Because it did have a jiggly sort of thing going on. Because it was... Sounds very... Jessie, I bet she's never had a tall strawberry. A torpedo, darling. Ice cream with lemons... What are you talking about? Well, the lolly goes into the ice cream. This all sounds completely X-rated. Stop it. The lolly goes into the ice cream. Does the lolly burn the ice cream, mother? There it is. Really wobbly wonder. They don't do it anymore. I think maybe it was it's not giving it's not giving as much as the brunch well that's a real nostalgic taste but that's all sweet stuff why I oh Ireland do really really good sausages God knows what's in there because they it doesn't taste like meat it probably isn't but they are the best my mum and my dad would do these great fry ups and like the sound walking into a kitchen with the sound of a radio playing like talk radio and the smell of sausages and rashers and like black pudding and all that kind of thing.

46:33That's incredibly nostalgic to me. With soda bread. Soda bread or just toast. Like the smell of toast. Or potato cakes. Potato cakes. Oh, I like it. Potato, you know, the ones that are kind of... Potato farms. Yes. I love this. Gorgeous. They're great. A bit of melted butter. Yeah. Yeah. They're really nice. Sharon Horgan, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on. Yeah. You are prolific. you are incredibly impressive your daughters are gorgeous and I can't wait to see more of your creations on screen and good luck with the rest of Bad Sisters the finale is on Christmas Day it's actually the day before Christmas Day I think it's called Christmas Eve the food was delicious thank you for having me I really really enjoyed it and I'm a really small bit pissed great I love that you're really holding it down thank you

47:40Thank you so much to Sharon Horgan for coming over. I love her daughters. They're so sweet. And she looked incredibly glamorous. I loved her outfit. Loved the outfit. The outfit was fab. The hair was fab. And she gave us brilliant stories about the pub. Yeah. The squat. Where is the piano? Harry Krishna. I know, where is the... We should do a search party for that piano. Somebody will have the piano. She said it was in a pub next door, yeah. Have you still got your false eyelashes on, Mum? No. These are from using Rapid Lash. Wow, Mum. Yeah. That is not an ad. No, honestly, it's from using Rapid Lash.

48:17Go on, Len. Thank you, Sharon Horgan, for coming by on a Friday night and sharing some Bollinger with us. thank you to my children who are still awake and it is past nine o 'clock do you want to do the outro little man what are you gonna say bye we'll see you next week

48:58We'll be right back.

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