Bosco and Goblin Drag Prerequisites with Katya

17:59The perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks.

18:36All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives. And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse.

19:12However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. Chronic migraine is 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It prevents on average 8 to 9 headache days a month versus 6 to 7 for placebo. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Allerge your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition.

19:47Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.

20:17I have

20:17Katya Zamolodchikova:to tell you, Mary, that first, I think it was the first runway. I did the pit stop on the first, I think it was the first episode. It was, it was. And then I hung back to watch some of the second episode, because I was just like, I gotta to see i gotta see more of this shit that i that look that well the shoulder pad one yes with the flat top in the in the fucking the the strip that it was how how did that how did that come about i just got me and my friend doodle up all of my costume ideas and like we just had little doodling parties and that one was just like randomly floated out last moment i'm just like i don't know like what if the tie is a thong what if the tie is a slingshot and then we just kept on like cleaning that up and going with it and it ended up very like tim burtony and very like nickelodeon and like um max headroom kind of came in it was a ton of different references but it wasn't weird and it was i loved it because it wasn't like it it seemed like it was like an amalgamation of a lot of different kind of references that was it's very much became its own thing like it was so I was just like, damn, that is so fucking cool.

21:29Katya Zamolodchikova:And it was like, and it was, had the potential to be not flattering. Oh, absolutely. And you looked cunt. Like that hair, not many people could get away with that hair. I love a challenging hair. I do too. I love a challenging wig. Me too. Absolutely. You really have to have like face for it. You have to have the confidence. You have to go for it. You have to go for it. And my favorite of the comments were like, is she wearing a silicone bodysuit? I'm like, nope, that's all me. That's mwah. I want to see her birth certificate. I don't know if I'm buying it. You shouldn't. That's fierce. That's the ultimate compliment.

22:09Katya Zamolodchikova:What about Plastique's fucking weird ass fucking, not weird. It's not weird. It's just bizarre. It's not weird. It's fucking crazy. Absolutely. That is so wild. She wears a little corset thing. her fucking the prosthetic corset thing the belly the whole thing I'm like I know that corset so fucking tired of her like it's just like it's like a cow that's just like milked dry average like mama needs some new content we're gonna put on the corset gonna fool the straights again it's so crazy it's cunt I cannot imagine the amount of confused boners that pop up from viewing her TikTok oh I'm sure cause she's the most followed person in the world at this point and like it just keeps on working and the fucking nerve of that fucking cunt stolen valor get on hormones transition chop your legs off chop your dick off get a nose job make yourself ugly because I have no patience for her to look like the most handsome young clear skin well adjusted beautiful guy and then she does a fucking kick she throws a shoe or whatever the fuck they do on TikTok and then it's all like Marvel movie magic and then she's like a goddess from heaven.

23:29Katya Zamolodchikova:It's like, what the fuck? Pick a lane. Pick a lane. Pick a fucking lane. I think Crystal Versace over in the UK she won like season three or something. She's like you should be sacrificing something for drag. You should look like a fucking little goblin out of drag or transition. Those are your two options. Or move. Or both. Or just get out of my face. absolutely get off social media stop making so much money on TikTok you bitch I'm so mad she's so beautiful out and in drag and so nice I love it when the girls look like a guitar pick because they're so pumped and like she like doesn't even have like super pump face she's just put you would never in a million years know that that beautiful young man is not um third year at law school he's just like you know what I mean he's like that's a pharmacist I graduated summa cum laude from Duke.

24:23You know?

24:24Katya Zamolodchikova:Full ride. And then just goddess. I hate him. Her. Both of them. I don't believe I've ever met her because if I do, I will kill her. Absolutely. She'll have to catch these hands and these shoes. And those shoes. And heavy shoes. Do we know what the fiance does? There's a fiance? There's a fiance. Who is also beautiful. And I'm just like, we're hoarding the wealth there in a very serious way. I sense a serial killer. There's got to be some kind. What's the catch? There has to be a huge, huge catch. It's got to be, I don't know. That's so frustrating. I know what you say, but Trixie and I joke all the time about it.

25:05Katya Zamolodchikova:It's like, you got to be a goblin on a drag. It's like, drag is for goblins. It's like the law of equivalent exchange. Like, you have to be able to give something to get something. If you want to be a beautiful woman, you need to look crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a lot of times it's the eyebrows. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I only, I shaved my eyebrows for a time and Mary, oof. I did it for a year and I'm like, my boyfriend almost broke up with me. He's like, you can't do it. You can't do it anymore. It is. Well, first of all, I quickly realized that eyebrows do serve a very important, important purpose.

25:36Katya Zamolodchikova:They catch sweat. Oh. Yeah. You're a sweaty gal. Oh. Yeah. And the first time I shaved my eyebrows was for a solo show that I did not rehearse with shave eyebrows. And 10 minutes in, all the glitter eyeshadow is running down my face 10 minutes into the show. And I'm like flipping out. And so that never happened. And also, I never knew. I never learned how to, like, you know, draw them on in the correct place. So I know. And then you look like way too cunty going to the bank. And like, it's just it's too much. And I'm, yeah, during the day, I'm not a person that wants to wear makeup. I mean, this is, this is, I feel like this is as far as I'll go.

26:17Katya Zamolodchikova:But like I got microbladed. Yes. Which was extraordinarily painful. But it was worth it. It is because they have like the little like scalpel dealio and they just go. They take a scalpel. They slice you. They jam ink in it. They do. And then they slice it again and then jam more. It's like a little X-Acto knife. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's like nonstop and it goes on forever and it hurts so bad. It looks good. It actually, I do like it a lot. And it makes me like able to shave like almost half of them and not look like. Oh, you're a nub queen? Yes. Nubs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the most part, yeah.

26:54Katya Zamolodchikova:And also I don't have like, I just try to like distract people with the mouth. I think like a bright red lip, you can get away with some really, really big nonsense. Also like I love bangs. I know some drag queens hate bangs. I love bangs. I love bangs. I think they're so feminine and pretty and cute. I love bangs. I love bangs in a pony. Like, I just, I love bangs. Like, I love, like, bangs that almost go down to, like, where you don't even really need lashes. And then, yeah, it's just bangs and then a big old fucking red lip. That's all you need. What are you wearing? What's this lip color? The Fenty.

27:29The Fenty Lipstunna. Paint in Uncensored. She's my favorite red lip. It's like a blue red, which is what I need because like a warm tone red makes me look crazy because I'm really, really pale.

27:41Katya Zamolodchikova:I will say I do a blue red. My favorite red of all time is NARS. Don't stop. OK. Have you ever tried it? Is it a liquid? It's a liquid. It's a blue red. You will love it. Are you. Do you know about the lip lacquer moment? The Gaga? The lip lacquer? No, I don't. What is this? It's like a gloss that dries. No, it's a gloss that dries down matte. So like, well, that's what this is. That's what this looks like. High shine. No. Okay. I see. So wait, wait, nothing like that. But it's a glass that dries, but stays glossy. Yes. But it's so it's not matte. It's not matte. It looks like you have lip gloss on, but it doesn't transfer.

28:20But she just stopped making it. And I want her dead for that. I don't believe. Apparently she has to. Oh, it's incredible. I think I have like a little bit left in my bag. I'll show you.

28:29Katya Zamolodchikova:You have to show me because I'm on the only thing I think of lip glass, that horrible shit from that. Do you remember lip gloss? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very shiny but it comes everywhere. And God forbid you have one piece of hair that flies into that face and it's a wrap. Gloss is only for like photo shoots and updos. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Photo shoot. That's it. Photo shoot. Because you can't eat. You can't really talk. And then you get the little wavy line. No. The first time you went on Drag Race, what was something that you spent a lot of... Was there anything that you focused on in your preparation that you found out later was totally pointless.

29:07For me, I'm just going to say it was stoning stuff. Stoning does not matter for television. It really doesn't. I wish somebody would have told me. I tell all my friends who are auditioning, don't bother, bitch. Like a sequin or like a really like say something fabric. Yeah. That's the move.

29:24Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. I only had like three weeks to get ready my first season and I had no money. So everything was just kind of like, let's make sure it all works I worked on a lot of different sewing patterns because I'm not a seamstress I just wanted to make sure that I could figure out how to do it, none, and in fact I hope I never have to sew again I'm so over it, I don't care, I don't want to I don't know, I love it when the girls do it love it when a girl can do it I have no desire to and I will not Well that's me with hair I can do human hair synthetic, I'm never going to learn I don't want to nope I have no interest I will if Fina's not around if somebody's not around I will go out with a loaf on my head boom see that's but that's cunt though thank you it's like a$12 wig from Amazon a little Amazon anime wig and you just ball it up absolutely but yours is human it is human and look at these roots aren't they convincing I am obsessed to afford these at home yeah can I make a confession please I put this on I wet it I put on a weird sexy outfit and I work out at home in front of the mirror.

30:30Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, I love that. I love that. I did it with the shoes today. It's a very American psycho. Such a crossy. Such a crossy.

30:42Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guajillo chiles. Usually, you add sauce to the food, but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get the sauce to your mouth. That rolled quesadilla, not a rolled quesadilla anymore. Now it's a sauce shovel. Taco Bell's jalapeno citrus salsa. Get it with any item on the cantina chicken menu while it's here. The participating U.S. Taco Bell locations for a limited time only. While supplies last, contact store for availability. Got a Sam's Cafe pizza order up. Mmm, mmm, mmm. You know the best part about this spicy Italian sausage?

31:20I voted for this topping. Yeah, just another perk of being a member. Come join us. Sam's Club. Hello, my name is Alaska Thunderfuck, and my new song, Revolution, is available now on all streaming platforms. Revolution. Revolution.

31:47Revolution. Revolution. We need to bring Crossy's back to Drag Race. Crossy culture needs to come back.

31:57Katya Zamolodchikova:So here's what we have to do. and you need to co-sign this and you really need to get on the ground floor because it's going to take a lot of reinforcements. Gwen. Chrissy. Lauren. Beth. Beth. Diane. With two N's. Okay. Like, we need to get the girls in the kitchen with the selfie sticks, the brown flat hair. We need to go, we need to reset. We need to take drag off of the stage. We need to take the stage out of people's hands. We need to bring it back to like doing it because it turns you on. Yeah, if you're not chubbed on the main stage, get out of here. No, absolutely. And they're going to check.

32:34RuPaul's going to check for you.

32:37Katya Zamolodchikova:Gender affirming massage. Exactly, exactly. Copping it like, mm. I have been asked, I mean, I'm not bragging, I swear to God, but I have been asked over the years if I do another All-Star season, and I'm like, dude, no. I could never even dream of sourcing even, never mind making sourcing an outfit that's even anywhere near the level of production or of whatever you call it the level of quality that everybody's wearing i i i would get that list and kill myself well we all kind of want to do that too like when we get the list it's like how is that what did you do what was it like how did you scramble were you anxious like what was the process who did you call everybody the thing is like designers are so hard to work with right now Like there's so many seasons happening concurrently.

33:27So every designer is just like got a waiting list. Yep. Waiting list. They're all just like tired. They're picked over. They don't want to do it anymore. So it's like you're like bartering and you're begging. Like, please, please. I can't. So take care of me. It was nice for this season because we only had to worry about like three runways at a time, which was fabulous.

33:44Katya Zamolodchikova:What does that mean? Well, the bracket situation. What the fuck was this? Did you like this? No, not really. Not really. I go brackets. This ain't March Madness. It was kind of nice for that reason where I'm like, I only have to prep three runways. Yeah. That's cool. I only have to make sure that I do good for three episodes at a time. But it's so much work and so much money. And I'm like, I'm only on TV for six episodes. I was going to say, Mama, we need to see more of Miss Bosco. I would love to see more. Why would you deprive the world of so much hard, hard boners? Absolutely. Painfully hard boners.

34:18Katya Zamolodchikova:Like hanging with one hand from a cliff off these boners, they're so hard. Like sliding down the hill and then grabbing with one hand on that boner. One finely managed your hand. Because Vosco's right there. Absolutely. I think that's beautiful. Yeah. I think it worked out because I didn't have to do as much TV as a regular season. My what? Oh, baby. Let's look at some pornography. Now we gotta be extra descriptive for the people on the 405, the 110, and the 2. Okay, this was, okay, so I don't know if we can probably, yeah, we'll put it in post. This is when I knew you were that bitch. This is when I knew you were that bitch.

35:02You sent me a message after seeing that? You're like, I'm so sorry for what you're about to see. I'm gonna get really weird here in a second, and I just wanna give you a heads up. Girl! A week before the bed stopped, I'm like, oh? Poor Joe. The producer was like, you need to shut the fuck up. Joe talked to me as well. Please, shut up. You need to see what Katya was doing on this episode.

35:23Katya Zamolodchikova:Double fisting her boner. She was, as every other person who was viewing it, they were stroking it. Had to. Had to. This is just, I love it so much because, like I said, it's just, it's so clean. It's so interesting. It's so unique. I can't really, it doesn't make me think of another queen. I love that. You know what I mean? which is hard these days. At this point, it's impossible. The only queen I think who could ever get away with something similar was maybe detox. Oh, what a great queen to be. And she's got taste. Yes, she's got, that bitch has fucking taste. She's got taste. And this, Mary, this Elvira, was this when, when did RuPaul say, I hate you?

36:03Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, that was with the other. A few times. With the Marilyn, with the, yeah, I love that. That is the ultimate compliment. It felt incredible. I'm like, yes, and then I'm gonna like rub your face in it. Thanks, dad. I love Ru. I do too. I think she's so cool. I do too. I think she's so cool. She really is. And her fucking, we were talking, me and Bob were talking, or I don't know what we were talking about, her Instagram earlier. My God, have you been catching up with Ru's Instagram? Oh, her like video content? She's incredible. She's having a renaissance. How is she so good at so many things? I think she's sober.

36:37Katya Zamolodchikova:That's how. Yeah. And extraordinarily wealthy. Yeah, very, very wealthy, a very talented Antobert. Oh, bitch, this one. How the fuck? Tits and slits. This, by the way. When I saw that runway, I'm like, well, I think I got this one. Oh, no. What am I going to do? That's when I would have took the gun and I would have killed myself. This was so... And again, it's like... So how did you come up with that? What was the thought process? Was this the first... Walk me through it. Absolutely, absolutely. I like having a little weirdness and horror to the touch of things. So I wanted something zipper-esque.

37:18That feels like slits to me. Sure. I didn't expect a way to go with it. And then I really wanted to do something that was like Birth of Venus, the Mugler Venus dress situation. And this is kind of where we ended up going. We're like, wait, what if we take it into a different color? What if it's like a motocross jacket? What are the different details that we can do to take it to a place that we haven't seen yet? Yeah. Because unfortunately, Plastique had just done her version of the same silhouette. The moment I got to studio with this, her episode aired of her wearing it. She was just wearing a white, beautiful pearl.

37:52Just some stupid white thing. It was beautiful and incredible. It was essentially the same silhouette, but in white and covered in pearls. It was gorgeous.

37:59Katya Zamolodchikova:Mine was better. This is the last thing I'll say about Plastique. Is that every time when I saw her get on the runway, I was like, why doesn't everybody just quit? Yeah Why does everybody Why does anybody have a job Why does anybody have a job Why is anybody still breathing When she walks out On the runway I was like You're kidding me She was doing a different job She was She was on a different program I don't know And it's no shade To the other girls It's just She was She was like Movie budget Marvel Marvel budget behind All of her runways The plastique cinematic universe Was on the runway And then she did like All the like The video content Of the looks Where it's like Full CGI She was the reason why James Cameron directs her TikToks She was the reason why I'm like, I'm not going to do a fucking shoot of any nature for these things.

38:41It's like, what am I going to do? There's no competing with it.

38:44Katya Zamolodchikova:Also, I am so tickled by all the effort people do. Mama, there's HD screen grabs on the show. I'm not going to do one on my Instagram. Just look at the show. Exactly. I'm like, you know, they sent me the video of what you just saw. So I'm going to post that again. Enjoy. It's in HD. You could just screen grab it. I got a big TV. But this was so kind. And again, it's like, I just love that. it's got such a point of view. It's unique. It's a little bit grotesque. It's also super sexy. It's fucking kind. Who the fuck is this? Her name is Lauren. Lauren. Lauren Desire. With a Y. She was my makeover partner.

39:24She's also 6 '7". So I felt so fucking put. I'm just a little girl. I'm just trying to get into high school. Oh no.

39:34Katya Zamolodchikova:This one was controversial. Now, what the fuck is going on here? Full disclosure, I may not have caught every single second of the season. What? That's so shocking. I got shoes to stone. You, the diehard fan of the show. I know you've seen every single episode. Are you kidding me? You're doing, like, the recap every single week. I run the trivia night at Tietops in Las Feliz. So you were really, really dialed in. What in the mother... You're like that. Please explain yourself. No, I won't. Your Honor, Exhibit A. You got it. So the task was to come out in a suit And end it in a dress And that's what I did I love it I don't care you can't tell me shit I'm tired of having to do sexy every single time So we got weird And I think that's acceptable and allowed And the shoes you can't really see in that picture Were incredible And you know what happened when I walked out Michelle said I love it So I don't need anything from anybody else You know why because it was different You will walk out with your titties out On the first episode she'll be like what else do you have?

40:31Show me something else. It's so funny. I'm going to be honest with you. I know you don't like it. I can tell. I fucking hate it. Perfect.

40:39Katya Zamolodchikova:And I'm only going to say that because everything else about you is perfect so I'm glad to see the vulnerability. Absolutely. We have to keep it relatable. We have to keep it... There has to be highs and lows. Says that bald bitch with a mushroom fucking thing on her head. Now we're back. Now we're back. Now we're back. Okay, we're so back. Some fucking porn. We're so back. Let's get the stroking lotion out again. So this is the promo. They only like me when I'm sexy. Girls can't be weird anymore. Girls can't be fucking freaky. I know. You can't just. They want to paint you in a box. They just want to stroke it.

41:09Katya Zamolodchikova:They want to stroke it. They want to stroke the box. Yeah. So this was promo. Now. Oh, God. It's so funny to look back about our promos. Both of my promos were the worst promos ever on the history of the show. And I. Your part. It's not. It's not. No, no, no. but my yes me and also the the shoot the vibe the whole concept I liked All Stars too I never had a fun one Mary first of all we never had a promo we never had a promo there was no commercial what were you wearing in the promo then I was wearing some the promo was like royalty queens I was wearing some boo boo fucking like do you want to know what my promo was orange that was my prompt honey so I think royalty sounds cool oh yeah it sounds cool when you have when you'd have a commercial we didn't have a commercial this is orange I remember people like pawing at the crown I remember like little close ups I remember a video commercial they were gifs mama those were gifs we didn't get they went from season season 7 was a flop they went from season 6 again Marvel Cinematic Universe James Cameron came in directed that promo still probably the best promo of all time I mean it was everybody was so well lit you couldn't tell who was a booger everybody looked flawless and everybody had their own like little tableau their little set up oh Bianca's yeah Courtney and Darren with the jackhammers Laganja behind the blinds it was like cunt so cunt and then you got American Apparel for season 7 just wear your best denim girls you have a white cut off shirt they literally said this is probably going to be the last season based on what we just saw So season six was the peak.

42:58Katya Zamolodchikova:I think we probably should probably cut our losses. No, I remember talking with the marketing people and the stylists and all this shit before we got there. Like, yeah, so we're going to do like this really like Terry Richardson, like Polaroid. And then my eyes started to glaze over and I started to grab the razor to my wrist. I was it was like, oh, OK. Yeah. Flat white Polaroid drag. Definitely. Definitely. That's what I get into. That's definitely going to like an outlet. still on the wall next to your picture? They haven't fucking airbrushed that out? It had the potential. The commercial itself for season seven was cunty.

43:37Katya Zamolodchikova:The concept. The execution. Rue had the nerve to look incredible. She really did. She looked that side pony and the legs and the slash dress. She looked cunt. We all looked like the cat's ass. It was really nice to follow up season six's promo with that where you can't tell who's bad at drag. And everybody looked bad. I couldn't tell who was good at drag. I couldn't tell who was good at drag. Who was going to do a good job based on that. One line. Trixie and Kennedy did not say one word in the whole promo. Perfect. I think Trixie did this. Mysterious arms. Kennedy did this like, or something. I don't know.

44:15It was horrendous.

44:19Katya Zamolodchikova:And then All Stars 2 was another slap in the face because we didn't know at the time that it was going to be, I mean, I think All-Stars 2 is so kind. Oh, it's fast. But we didn't know that because All-Stars 1 was so bad. Sure. You know, and like, so we didn't really know what we were getting into. We thought we were going to do teams and all that crap. But it ended up turning out great. But like, this is a promo. Thank you. This is a fucking promo. And this is, to make Orange Feathers work? Yeah. Why don't you work for the UN? why aren't you like in Syria right now I'm in Mensa yeah I'm gonna like start brokering peace in the Middle East seriously why aren't you in Lebanon right now like quelling solving problems seriously oh this was the look for the people in the 405 I'm so sorry you'll just have to pull over and look at the image this was when she said I hate you she sure did and that oh I just I just love this look so much that hair Morgan McMichael's husband Hassan best hair really best hair he did the majority of my hair for the season he's so good love a loaf you can just spray it and forget it I love hair that looks like hair I'm tired of the Hot Wheels hair I don't want to see the encrusted little tracks that the Hot Wheels can be on I don't need it anymore I need hair that looks like hair so I'm that way too I want to look like a girl call me old fashioned in my days that's it Hot wheel fucking Easter egg crap.

45:51Katya Zamolodchikova:Putting foots in your mouth, Nina West bullshit. No, like I would, I know I agree. Like I just love like, I just like looking like a girl. Yes. Or a woman at 43. No, just a little girl. You're weird about it. It's fine. No, I really, but I really feel like, I really feel like a girl when I'm in drag. And I'm like. How old is the little girl that you feel like? No, not little. Like, but I feel like, I feel like a 30 year old girl. Okay. You know what I mean? I'm doing my post back in France or something. I took some years off. You know what I mean? I'm doing something. I'm in grad school. Gorgeous.

46:24Katya Zamolodchikova:So talk to me about this burlesque number. Talk to me about, did you fucking lip sync against Ginger? I did lip sync against Ginger.

46:34Katya Zamolodchikova:To fucking pink. Love pink. See, I said that and they didn't keep it in. The pink industrial complex is large and looming. Absolutely, absolutely. Big pink. Big pink. RuPaul is in the pockets of Big Pink right now. She's in the clutches of Big Pink. We need her to get into Big Brown, but she won't do it. Nope, nope, not anymore. Not anymore. I can't. I stand that song. I hate that song so much. Mama, it's a bar mitzvah song. It's a state fair song. That is the song that's playing as you're on the zipper. Yes, and also when they're giving the blue ribbon to the biggest pig in the... Oh, absolutely.

47:10There's the pregnant cow is giving birth, and they have to alert the entire state fair.

47:14Katya Zamolodchikova:Raise your glass. Raise your glass and moonshine you fucking hicks. I can't stand that song. And it was so funny in that moment. Cause they do the whole like little raffle thing of like, we get to find out who's going to pick the ball. I'm like, the moment they say Ginger, they barely, she barely lets them finish saying, Ginger, what song? Pink. I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course it is. So you lost. I sure did. I sure did. But you know what though? So did I. And guess what? It seems to be working pretty well for you. It's always, I'd rather, have 100 people say you were robbed than you shouldn't have won I mean I don't think they tell I don't think I've seen a few people tell I have heard and I have witnessed and I've been told that way back in the day Alaska got some really rude stuff and it made me so mad because she absolutely killed All-Stars 2 there's no doubt Truly incredible.

48:14Katya Zamolodchikova:There's no doubt. She fucking, she shot, she took off her diaper, she spread those fucking bony cheeks, and she shot on that whole season. Absolutely. She killed it. And so to say that she robbed anybody, girl, get over yourself. You can like someone more than another person. Absolutely, you can be upset that your horse in the race didn't win. Yeah, but you can be like, oh, well, that horse who did well at every single thing that was put in front of them doesn't deserve the crown. Like, girl. The girl with the cross-eyed. The cross-eyed girl with the nice heart. Adam Morris has a good heart. You know, the one with the bum leg and the mange.

48:51Katya Zamolodchikova:Just like one hoof in the glue factory. It's not America's next nice superstar drag, whatever. So yeah, I mean, do people, do you get that in a meeting? First of all, do you like doing meeting greets? No.

49:10Katya Zamolodchikova:Bosco will be appearing tonight I sure don't you don't like meeting and greeting the legions of your adoring fans the ones who are stroking it to you behind their television sets I know I feel like such a dickwad it's weird I love meeting people and I love being able to take in all of the compliments and gifts that people want to give me. It's all great. I just also, I'm not like a people person where being around people gives me energy. I'm not like a person that like that kind of charges me. I charge myself by being alone. Yeah, same. And like being on myself. So I have to like pour into other people.

49:49And so a meet and greet just feels like I'm pouring a lot. And they deserve it and they should have that because they are really, really fabulous and nice people and they really like me and they're very excited. And they're paying money. And they're paying money. So like you got it. I prefer being on stage but I think a meet and greet is also something that is in my contract so I will be doing

50:10Katya Zamolodchikova:I agree it's such a weird it's such a strange stupid thing to complain about it's the worst to complain about oh I don't want to stand around for an hour and get compliments and money wait a hundred people have to give me gifts to tell me I'm their favorite person in the world what I tell my boyfriend he's like I work in oncology like I dealt with like five people who are dying this week I'm a pediatric oncologist so it sounds like I have it a lot worse than you huh babe yeah I work in a mine you bitch exactly I have fucking black lungs yeah no it's there was a point where actually I liked doing the meet and greet more than the show okay tell me about this well cause I like I use drag race to come out of my show like I was like very very much an introvert shy like I didn't forget everybody but then And like, you know, it's always funny.

51:00I mean, when people say like, don't care about what anybody else thinks of you. What planet are they on?

51:07Katya Zamolodchikova:I think they're on planet sociopath. Absolutely. You know what I mean? You shouldn't like get hung up on everything, like on comments or whatever from people you've never met. But like what people think of you is quite important, actually. Also, when you're a public facing person and like you're the other people's opinion of you is the reason why you get to work. you kind of have to care a little bit I mean sometimes people get crazy and they sling shit out of nowhere they don't know you it's like a vendetta whatever but like I mean I remember I followed Trixie around on the country for like a while and every show director would be like what's wrong with your sister cause she was like she wasn't super warm like I'm like the opposite I'm like you know like and very, very warm.

51:57Katya Zamolodchikova:But she just gets it. She's from Wisconsin. She's just a dude. She's like, hey, what's up? And she just treats everybody like they're the same. She's not a bitch, but she's just not effusively warm and all this crap. It's just funny to me. What is the worst show you've ever done? Ooh. Post-Drag Race. Post-Drag Race. There is a nightclub that is not too far away from here where the guy will ask you to just do a gig and then you come in and you're finding that you're hosting the competition night and there's an entire script that you have to follow and do. This guy is also some sort of like undetermined age, just roided out of his brain, gives you like a little like locker room to change in and also refers to you as he while you're in drag the entire night.

52:48And I did that gig once on my first year the first lap that I did and it is the only time that I've ever said Do not book me there ever again because not only are you doing the scripted thing if he doesn't like how you're doing it He'll just voice a over Yes, yes, yes, yes We are going to can't we are going to we are going to bleep that but yeah, baby Oh my god I know Oh my god the worst gig in the world Baby, let me tell you.

53:18Katya Zamolodchikova:Honey, and if you don't have breakfast with him the next day, one day, one day, I decided not, because it's not that far away from here. Fame changed you. Of course. Fame has changed you. I'm a monster now. Exactly. No, I decided not to get put up at the hotel, which meant that I was not at his beck and call for hanging out. I was running 10 minutes late to the show. Oh, you better believe he started the show without me. and then the one with your face on the poster and then got on the mic and said Kati will be meeting every single person tonight free of charge and then I was trapped doing a meeting read for about 450 fucking people till 3 in the morning oh yeah oh yeah I hate his guts yeah I don't think he's a good person he's crazy he is crazy I can't judge his morality because he's just insane.

54:18Also, anybody who refers to their drag queens as he when they're in drag, that is my red flag. And that's intentional because when you work

54:26Katya Zamolodchikova:with drag queens as much as that person does, that is a dig. It feels like it. Although Vegas, for whatever reason, is very about female illusion. So sometimes the older girls will be... Like Rick Marino. Or not Rick Marino. Is that his name? Yeah, Chad Michael, Derek Barry. It's a thing. Kenny Kerr, like it was very like that is kind of like an old fashioned way of doing it because like they are boys and you need to acknowledge them as boys when they're not on stage. This is their craft. But that is obviously not what I'm going for. And not which there is nobody, anybody with half an eye, half an eye and a little bit of gray matter up in their head would see you and be like, puss.

55:06Well, this was also before some surges. So there was a lot more jawline in that in that moment. Was there lipstick? Were there lashes?

55:13Katya Zamolodchikova:Were there wigs and jewelry? Get a grip. Get a grip. It is the one time I'm like, you can't have me back there. Let's do some rapid fire. We are going to film a porn later, so we'll just. Okay, perfect. Shoes day on. I'm greased. I got the shoes. Let's see. Here we go. Okay, Bosco. Yes, go. I did also tweet out some. If you want to take a peek at my Twitter, they're probably. I glance at them outside. They're all horrible. They're always weird. Like, how big are your boobs? Or like, can you be my mom? Can you be my mom? How do you do it? Oh my God. Okay. First of all, so Bosco, how dare you? All right.

55:47Katya Zamolodchikova:Okay. That was the first question. Okay. Can I answer that? Please. I have to. It's a moral imperative. Absolutely. It's my job. I can't not. What were your initial thoughts on the tournament twist on All Stars? Oh, I enjoyed the lack of resources that it would take to do three episodes, rather than an entire season at a time. Sports are really confusing to me. So I had to like see it in order to understand it. It ended up being fine. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think we already covered this a little bit. Do you think we should bring back mall drag? Yes. Yes. We need a reset. Absolutely. Oh, can I tell you something that Nicole Page Brooks said that changed my life?

56:29Katya Zamolodchikova:Yes. Are you calling her a mall drag artiste? Yes. Yes. You've seen. We have eyes. I have eyes that can see and a heart that can feel. That's exactly what I'm calling her. And she's one of the coolest people I've ever met. I was sitting next to her in a bus. We were doing press. Irene was sitting next to me and Irene's partner was there all dressed up. She looks over at Irene's partner. You look good tonight. All my sissies are getting whammed up tonight too. Whammed up. Whammed up tonight. Oh, I love that. So I wake up out of a dead sleep every morning. I'm getting whammed up tonight. And it's changed everything for me.

57:04Katya Zamolodchikova:Whammed up. Lauren Desire's getting whammed up. she's put on her mother of pearl toe buckle fly oh yeah you wanna taste this tape Rezzy she's got that extra long selfie stick in the kitchen and she's whamming oh call me George Michaels because I'm fucking wham oh the whispers they're careless oh my but you gotta have faith but you gotta have faith do you still find do you still find being attracted to Twinks a character flaw yes I sure do I think twinks are a blight on humanity. They need to be stopped. There is always a better option. There is always a better option. I, for one, have - Not even the twinks want the twinks.

57:47Read the room. The twinks are fucking each other. Thank you.

57:49Katya Zamolodchikova:Thank you. They're waiting. They're waiting until they can be boyfriend twins. Doppelbangers? Doppelbangers. Doppelbangers. Wham it up. Okay. I have always loathed the term twink. I don't care for these stupid characterizations of gay players, all that crap. But twink, that word to me is disgusting. It's not something that inspires sexual feelings to me. No. And I feel like twinks also have to pick a lane. You either die a twink or live long enough to see yourself transition or whatever Batman said. I mean, yeah. You just have to like, where are we going with this? I know. Ask Courtney Act. What are we doing?

58:33Katya Zamolodchikova:It's twink to twunk. Now pick something else, Mary. You're 43. She is really buff, though, which I think is a good route. She's buff, and also she has perfect skin. And she's got that good turkey hairline. Just machine punched. But she does. I mean, I'm the bizarro version of her. You're her Oreo? She's the Mario? Are you her tether? Yeah. Just the evil version of her. I made all the wrong decisions. She made all the right ones. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, we're twins, but I'm the dark one. Exactly. Like in us, when it's the tether, like she's raised in the light of Australia and you were raised in the darkness of Boston.

59:13Katya Zamolodchikova:It's like the Wario or whatever, the bizarro version of Superman, whatever the fuck it is. What's it like to be brave? Kind of overwhelming, but like somebody has to do it. And you do it with - I feel like there's an obligation. Yeah, and you do it with grace and aplomb. Duh. What's your current vocal stem, if you have any? Oh, getting whammed up tonight. absolutely we're getting whammed up tonight at every moment and the other like nugget that she left me with is like we're talking about blowjobs she's like you want to taste this tape resi short for tape residue so blowing chunks on the 405 all of our listeners oh that resi yes you said bring back Maldry and she is.

1:00:00You need to take the good with the bad.

1:00:02Katya Zamolodchikova:But I don't think Lauren Desire is taping up her thing. No, she's letting it. She's got like Fruit of the Loom underpants underneath that little sundress. What is the worst humiliation ritual doing Snatch Game or lip syncing to Pocketbook featuring Ludacris by Jennifer Hudson? Oof. Oof. The thing is... What'd you do for Snatch Game? I did Kenny Kerr who is like a Vegas impersonator. So I just used it as like a way to do four different bad impersonations because I can't really do any of them. I hate it. It's terrible. It's very difficult. Mary, they just need to let it go. They sure do. They sure do.

1:00:35Not even the girls who are good at it can do it in a way that people want to see anymore. Because all of the good characters have been done. And nobody does impersonations in their acts anymore. So we're just learning it for one particular moment of television. Yes. And it just is not interesting. And RuPaul hates it. RuPaul hates doing it.

1:00:51Katya Zamolodchikova:And also, I am sick and tired of seeing drag queens fail when there are so many other ways that they can succeed on that show. And like they're so talented. Why are we having them do the thing that like nobody is particularly good at? Nobody's an improv expert and an illusionist on Drag Race anymore. No, because like celebrity illusion is no longer a thing that like people do for their money. No, it's a very few. I mean, it's an extremely honed comedic skill that takes years and years and years to improv like that on the spot in a character is so hard. Like improv alone. I'm pretty good at improv.

1:01:25I can improv as myself. Sure. That's fine.

1:01:28Katya Zamolodchikova:And even that is stressful, though. Absolutely. And sometimes that backfires, let alone doing a silly voice. So Snatch Game sucks. I have no business doing a song where the lyrics are, I'm going to hit you with my pocketbook. And then I don't understand why we had two white ladies from the Northwest doing that song either. So we all suffered the consequences for that choice. Drag Race girls do love a black cent, I'll tell you that much. They sure do. Okay. A question from my lesbian producer. What are the names of your cats? Tegan and Sarah. No, I'm just kidding.

1:02:03Katie and Ellen. Katie and Ellen. Portia and Ellen. Katie and Melissa. Toby and Tito. Toby and Tito, my little boy. Cute, cute.

1:02:17Katya Zamolodchikova:And do you think being raised Catholic caused you to convert to being trans? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The Pope. The Pope. My childhood pastor was also found in possession of child pornography. Oh. Yes, and I was an altar boy. Oh, you're jumping ahead. But no, his name was Father Lou. Just called him Daddy. Father Lou? Father Lou. Father Lou is kind of fun, though. Oh, thank you. But yeah, nothing ever happened there. And I think that's where the self-esteem issue started. So that's kind of where we all ended up. Well, I mean, if you grew up Catholic, I grew up Catholic, and I'm still trying to unpack body stuff.

1:02:52Katya Zamolodchikova:You clearly have, I feel that you have, you've got that shit on lock. Absolutely. We're figuring it out. No shame in that game. I don't know. I had to go to private school, had to go to church like twice a week. Horrible. For years and years and years. So boring. And I was like pretty atheist by the time I was like 12 or 13. So like we've already kind of done that whole song and dance. Yeah. Still impacts things. We still have all that guilt hanging out there, not doing much. Were you confirmed? Yep. What was your confirmation name, if you don't mind me asking? I literally don't even remember.

1:03:21Fierce. Do you?

1:03:22Katya Zamolodchikova:I resisted it. I was a Satanist at that point. Sickening. And my brother and sister both yielded. I was unyielding as the only thing, the only bratty part of my childhood that I'm actually proud of because I was like, God, what are you talking about? Yeah, that doesn't make any fucking sense. They couldn't answer the question. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, I guess I'm right. And it was like so sanctimonious. What made you move to Seattle? To not be in Montana, primarily. Jesus. I know. Montana is rough. Montana is not the cultural hub of the United States. No, it's not the Mecca of the West by any means.

1:03:56Katya Zamolodchikova:Or a lovely paradise for trans folks. No, not particularly, actually. I really needed to get out of Montana. I wanted to see... I had some cousins in Seattle. I was originally going to use Seattle as a jumping off point and see if I wanted to do LA or New York. And then just fell in love with Seattle. It's beautiful. It's my favorite city. I've seen so many at this point. It still is at the top. Also, it's close to Vancouver, which is lovely. Also lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are going to wrap it up. I want to ask you one last thing. Please. What is a sound that you love? A sound that I love? Ooh I like this Jewelry Jangles I love it I love the sound of bangles I love a bangle This is really good for me How do you feel about that?

1:04:41I love it Okay, great What is the sound that you hate? Oh I don't know if I hate it But it's always It's the sound of a girl taking her wig off And it's like damn that's the sound of womanhood when they were like taking exactly when you hear the toupee tape just like giving you're like oh yeah Lauren Desires and her tape resi and her velcro hairline machine punched what is your favorite curse word oh it's pretty boring but like probably cunt cunt it's a really good one and it just has like a lot of oomph.

1:05:22Katya Zamolodchikova:Okay, last question. If heaven exists, what would you like God to say to you as you arrive at the pearly gates? Amy Winehouse is over there. Go say hi. Okay. Cheers. Thank you so much, Bosco. High five. Thank you so much. This was so wonderful. This is a delight. You remain I think I could say with total confidence, no shade to our previous guest that you are the sexiest, most beautiful guest on our show to date. Thank you. Thank you. Everybody else, your dog. Oh my god, I just have to say out of all the opportunities I've had this is by far the most recent and I just want to thank you so much

1:06:04Consider that stolen Oh bitch, that's how I do That's my fucking club thing. I say it at every club It was by far the most recent Oh, I really fucking go in for it.

1:06:16Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, I love I live I love I love one. Dina Martina has one that I stole that's so fucking funny. I know that there's a lot going on right now. And there's a lot of things that keep me up late in the night. And I just want to share something with all of you that's giving me a lot of strength. And that is that I have merchandise available to purchase on my website at thisisbosco.com. She did it with her album, but like the Wigstock. Wigstock, The Rose. The Best Rope. Literally, just like a single stanza of The Rose. Memoirs of the Thyroid? something or something. And that was the best drag performance that's ever been done.

1:06:52Katya Zamolodchikova:I swear to God. Brilliant. Yeah, brilliant. Have you seen her on Christmas show? I've never. I did. Yes. I've never seen her live, though. I'm dying to. But if you Google Dina Martina, wig stock, the rose and your life will change forever. All right. Thank you. Bye bye.

1:07:18Bye.