Courtney Act is Eminently Keen with Trixie and Katya

11:44Trixie Mattel:Don't you feel like if Courtney, if your body has Red Bull, it'll just like disintegrate?

11:48Katya Zamolodchikova:No, she hasn't. The amount of supplements she travels with, you have no idea.

11:52Trixie Mattel:She's mostly got vitamins.

11:53Katya Zamolodchikova:Vitamins? Vitamins. She's got like, she's like Pat McGrath with the makeup. It's like, she travels with 82 suitcases of vitamins. And I've also got like something that'll cure whatever ails you. Like if I'm away and I'm traveling, I need like, a tincture potion. Have I got an itchy eye? Is my throat scratchy? Is something going on with my middle ear? How's my anus? Now, are you on the gray market buying peptides? That's what people want to know.

12:14Trixie Mattel:Are you on extremepeptides.com? No, but you know what I did? choosing whether I want to talk about this. Just to 2010, I purchased Melanotan 2 off the internet. 2010. Clive. He wasn't even born.

12:36Katya Zamolodchikova:You gotta bleep that name. We can't give him any airtime. Sorry, it's a personal vendetta.

12:41Trixie Mattel:Courtney has been looks maxing for a very long time. It's just called being gay.

12:45Katya Zamolodchikova:It's just called looking good. It's just called looking your best. Brush your hair, bitch. Wash your face. Put on some clothes that don't look ugly. I remember looks-maxing the females in my school when I was in high school. I, for some reason, have this vivid memory. It was coming up to the school formal, and I was thinking about all of the girls getting dressed for the formal. I went with the school captain, the female school captain, and I chose her outfit, obviously. You top-modeled her. Yeah, I top-modeled her. You bleached her hair. Yeah. Dental work. No, the swan. The swan. The swan. We're going to need 18 months to get you ready.

13:20But I remember looking around the classroom and looking at each girl and thinking like, I legitimately remember thinking every single one of these women is beautiful. And like, if there's like a process of uncovering, like carving the statue of David from the Rock of Marvel. They're all in there. And I just remember thinking that. And I feel like that was, I invented looks maxing in the 90s, guys. That's what I'm saying.

13:45Katya Zamolodchikova:I'm so sorry to tell you, Courtney, that looks maxing has existed since the dawn of time. Just not with that stupid word to describe it.

13:52Trixie Mattel:You know what the real kicker is? And I say this as a bald person. I think one of my biggest things is when you see somebody who just needs a haircut. Oh, yeah. When I see the girls with the super long hair, but it's all one length and it's super heavy. Yeah. And it's like, your hair is healthy and beautiful. A different haircut? You would look like a shampoo commercial.

14:10Katya Zamolodchikova:Or a different eyebrow. Or when it's time to just shave the head. There was a goal on it. it's time to shave the head.

14:16Trixie Mattel:Mary, I follow this Reddit. It's time to shave the head. I follow this Reddit for balding men where they post a picture of themselves and they say, is it time? Where people say whether or not it's time. And sometimes they are like, you have a couple years, but I'm telling you, 99 % of these posts are people who only have hair on the sides like fire tuck and it's like one hair on top. And they're like, is it time? And like, that depends. Are you 50 or 20? Yeah. Is it time to look good? Is it time to look good? The phobia of being shaved-headed bald should not be stronger than the phobia of looking like Patchy McWilliams.

14:51Trixie Mattel:I couldn't agree more.

14:54Katya Zamolodchikova:Dude, get a unit. Get a unit. No, don't. Or don't get a unit. I love my unit, but I am so constantly perplexed. I mean, I guess people say that. People have told me, and I suspect they've told you, that you have a not weird-looking head. Is that right? Yeah, people love to say that. They love to say that. But I have, I have, I know people who are young. Like, I'm talking 20. She knows people who are young. Shut up. I know people who are in their 20s who are doing homeovers. They're doing homeovers. And they're trying to do magic up there. They're trying to do the Wizarding World of Harry Potter up there.

15:27I feel like the people who have receding hairlines have tricked the rest of the world into styling their hair in a homeover. Even if you have a full thick luxurious shiny head of hair. Oh, it's diabolical. It's diabolical. those like hairstyles and I'm like that's a receding hairline cover up hairdo you've got a thick luxurious hairline

15:45Katya Zamolodchikova:a bald person that is like you are Mr. Burns and you're trying to pull all that shit up there and you're not even 30 it's okay baby shave the head shave the head shave the head well we want to do Wigs by Vanity I want to do a range of rugs for gays like but like fun ones like like this not quite as nice as yours like not a human maybe but like fun synthetic ones that you could if anybody who has a fade could just like pin on a piece and have like a fun, fabulous, flirty, like, party hair. How much do you want? What's the price point? Well, it would be pretty cheap because, I mean, it's not like a glue down.

16:19It's not going to be hand knotted. I feel like it'll be like a machine top kind of crown of a wig.

16:24Trixie Mattel:Crush a Mitzi. Yeah, just chop up a few backstops. Vanity told me that the Mitzi is coming back. It is coming back. I'm so excited. The Mitzi? The Mitzi. You guys, did you have the Mitzi? I don't fuck with the Mitzi. It's like a cone that like, Oh, I know the Mitzi. But I'm really horny for that Pamela topper you guys have. Wait, is that the fringe, Pam? It's the topper. It's just like, it's like the Mitzi comb, but it's curls. Okay. You cannot come for it. Pamela Anderson. Yeah.

16:51Katya Zamolodchikova:It is your product, Courtney, my God. Listen, she's been out of the warehouse for very - For a couple of years. I'm back now. I'm working on the floor. She's making her way out of your room. He got demoted. No, I got to give it up to Vanity for those motherfucking color mixes because - That's beautiful. There's no other. Raquel Welch eats shit. Beverly Johnson, go suck ass. She's actually like pioneered this. Like she's actually like with the factory, like developing techniques. Did you know I invented tinsel wigs?

17:20Trixie Mattel:I did know this. I wish you hadn't. Vanity also told me that you are the person responsible for getting RuPaul in Vanity Wigs.

17:28Katya Zamolodchikova:Now if we could just get them a little on her head.

17:31Trixie Mattel:I don't know if she wears, because now she's wearing all those white ones. She stands in front of them. I didn't think they're owls. We don't want to take responsibility for those hairlines. But she, I remember RuPaul would wear the Mattel blonde. Sometimes the yellow, it looked so good. Matthew Anderson gave me a lock of RuPaul's hair. This is before I was on drag race because I said, I was at a six one three and he was like, no, Ru can't wear six one three because it washes her out. She needs that really yellow color. And so he gave me a lock of two of her wigs from the nineties. And we had those copied in, in our factory.

18:03And one of them is called the Glamazon and the other is called the shade of Yes, yes, yes. Yellow.

18:08Trixie Mattel:She also looks good in that. She wore that red from you guys sometimes. If you look at season seven,

18:14Katya Zamolodchikova:rewatch season seven, all hair by Matthew. Her, every episode, her hair is cunt. It's amazing. It's cunt.

18:22Trixie Mattel:We rewatched season seven last year and the hairography is just so beyond.

18:28Katya Zamolodchikova:She's the makeup too. She's stunning. But Vanity's color, the best blonde ever, the ash, the cool blonde. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the mixes are so. And the Miss Australia, because their fiverr has actually died. Yeah. Because I remember the beginning, the first rooted one, which Rue wore on season six. I came out for the. Get out of here. The scary challenge in like week three, whatever it was called. Drag Race Me to Hell. And I walked out and I was like, RuPaul is wearing. The black and gray. An LOL. Was it the black and gray? The white with the really dark robe. That is so surreal. And I couldn't tell anyone.

19:01I didn't even tell Bianca. I was like. I would have screamed it. I can't tell anybody that RuPaul is wearing. my wig and I'm like on the main stage looking at, no, I just kept it to myself. Cause I was like, I don't want to, I felt like that would. Oh yeah. How the sausage is made. Yeah. Or like, I know those shoes. Like I'm currying favor or like I'm, like I'm, I don't know. I know what you mean. I have a handicap, but like in golf, not.

19:21Trixie Mattel:I don't think anybody thinks RuPaul's currying favor for you. And you're definitely handicapped. Not anymore. That's it's, let's lock a hair. Maybe that was the sliding door. That was the moment everything changed. I should have been like, you're wearing my wig.

19:34Katya Zamolodchikova:And then she would We'd be here right now with you instead of us. Bald. And I'd be bald. And you'd be bald.

19:40Trixie Mattel:RuPaul's like, we can be friends. I have to shave your head every day, though.

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24:12Katya Zamolodchikova:Is Geordie Shore The precursor to Jersey Shore I don't know if that's pre Or like Tangential or spin off It's like the Swedish chef

24:19Trixie Mattel:Jersey Shore Geordie Shore Geordie Shore Geordie Shore Geordie Shore But I don't talk like Swedish chefs in Geordie Shore Where is Geordie It's Newcastle Mama It's asked that by 7pm Oh it's a UK show

24:32Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah it's a UK show Newcastle Newcastle in the UK I didn't know But you know Newcastle

24:37Trixie Mattel:I know but Jersey Shore is in America I thought maybe it was like Similar area I don't know I was actually just thinking about this yesterday How did they get two places Called something Shore That were like Geordie and Jersey They're like such similar words Oh

24:48Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh G-E-O Yeah Geordie Because people from Newcastle Are called Geordie's Hey mama it's trash Shane G That's a Geordie accent 100%. Yeah. That's, that's a very. I keep doing a York. I try to do a Yorkshire accent. It's very different. But Mary, it is, it is turnt up in Miss Newcastle. She gets the party. That was the first. You guys know I've been to Newcastle. You know what I'm talking about then, right?

25:12Trixie Mattel:Yes.

25:13Katya Zamolodchikova:You agree? It's crazy. It is crazy. Like it has a different, like,

25:17Trixie Mattel:maybe I don't have the experience you guys have.

25:19Katya Zamolodchikova:The party vibe is, is turned up to 500. I saw two women at like 930, like drunker than vanity. Yes. wearing, holding their high heels in this paralytic trunks. In freezing cold weather. In freezing cold weather with McDonald's bags. As shoes. As shoes with hair ties wrapped around to like hold the McDonald's bags as they like. As if that compares

25:42Trixie Mattel:to when I was in Brisbane and saw kids huffing glue at the McDonald's.

25:46Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, that's different. And everyone in Brisbane

25:48Trixie Mattel:was like, yeah.

25:50Katya Zamolodchikova:Nobody was like, oh no. They were like, yeah, that's Brizzy. This is like pre-gaming is not even, it's just always a game in Newcastle. There's no pregame. It's like ass up, two top tits out, face in the gutter, 6pm, sun hasn't gone down. That's Geordie. That's like crazy. So a girl from Geordie Shore was like, you'd be great on Celebrity Big Brother. You know my super power is getting back to the plot. People were very alarmed and outraged the first time when you were away and I was with Katia and people were like, how did Courtney cycle back seven tangents and bring us back to the plot and finish the story?

26:24and I said to this girl Marnie I'm like people don't know who I am people don't people aren't going to care about who I'm not going to be on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK but it had just gone on Netflix in the UK and every because that was in the time when people still had to illegally download Drag Race to watch it so I went on Celebrity Big Brother which felt like a real level jump and I remember at the time look I've healed my Drag Race trauma I actually I'm extremely grateful for all of it obviously and I love RuPaul and like all of the anyway

26:58Katya Zamolodchikova:less ice this video more authentic next time I'm just kidding

27:01Trixie Mattel:we feel all the same way we love we love Dragos we love RuPaul Instagram heals the world and destroys it at the same time it's like you and me we're like yin and yang

27:17Katya Zamolodchikova:sorry go ahead

27:17Trixie Mattel:how did you get the job? Why won't you tell me? Her agent Like the way I keep asking How you got on Big Brother Who's there? The interrupting sheep So the Marnie was like you should talk to my agent And then her agent like pitched me And I got the job Marnie the designer? Pardon? Marnie the designer? No Marnie from Geordie Shaw That's the story I waited for Her agent pitched it and they said yes But You're always so fucked I was gonna say no Thank god I'm here I legitimately was gonna say no I remember talking about it with Wendy, my manager, because I was so like, like traumatized by drag race.

27:54Oh, yeah. And I was like, I don't think I could put myself through that again. What if I came out the other side and everybody hated me? Like, I don't know. I'm going to say no. Then I said no. And then obviously said yes. And told not a single soul. I was on tour with Willem in Alaska. We were performing at GAY New Year's Eve, like the night before. Oh, AAA girls. Didn't say a word to them. Yeah. and we were like secret keeper baby we were at Tom Daley's house like the sun is coming up party going on and didn't say a word to anybody you can't tell Willem would tweet it and Alaska would be jealous

28:27Trixie Mattel:she'd kill herself

28:30Katya Zamolodchikova:high five on that secret keeping that is some top that should be a Mission Impossible

28:34Trixie Mattel:it's almost easier to tell no one because like one person is worse at that point tell no one

28:39Katya Zamolodchikova:a hundred percent one person means 12 one person means 12 yes and then it's just logarithmic after that interestingly the night before I went in I did tell Bianca the day before because they were like they might want somebody to like do the after show she has no one in her life well she gets a text message from Michelle Visage because remember Michelle Visage was obsessed with

29:00Trixie Mattel:she's in the Big Brother Mafia yes she was on before me she went on fifth I was going to say she must have been blocked oh yeah she was like top five or something because even the year before Bianca had been asked to go and do the after show and she was she's she was quite territorial about the thing and so then she i think found out from production that i was on and had texted bianca like what's this about courtney being on big brother um and she was like i don't know girl i haven't heard anything and then went into the house came out a month later a winner baby it was so exciting when you won plucked i'm not i wasn't surprised

29:32Katya Zamolodchikova:i mean i don't know anything about the show but you're a winner michelle michelle told me it was

29:36Trixie Mattel:really really hard did you find it like mentally taxing you know what i loved every second until I went into that house and I became one of the boys, like one of the straight boys. I would be outside in the smoking area until the dawn chorus started in the morning. You don't think girls smoke? Drinking with the straight men. No, it was just the three straight men. Did you shag anybody? No, but I did have a bromance. Yeah, I remember that. And then I had a foil in Anne. And so I had that like perfect balance apparently from the outside.

30:06Katya Zamolodchikova:And then tell me, in a nutshell, for someone who doesn't, I don't watch any of these shows and I don't understand what you do and I don't research it. I should do that.

30:16Trixie Mattel:It's whoever's the biggest brother is the winner, honestly. If you are the largest

30:22Katya Zamolodchikova:and have the most siblings,

30:23Trixie Mattel:you win.

30:24Katya Zamolodchikova:That's who puts on the most weight throughout the season.

30:26Trixie Mattel:Courtney, an only child of 90 pounds, won.

30:28Katya Zamolodchikova:She won. But no, but like, can you tell me in three sentences? Like, pitch the show to me. You're in a house. Like, try to get me on it. Okay, so you're living in a house together. There's 12 people that you don't know. and you do nothing all day long. No, I'm telling her talking to people. You do nothing. You like buy groceries and you just like have conversations and because there's 24 hours in a day and people get bored, shit happens. They do have challenges that occur. They can't watch TV.

30:53Trixie Mattel:They can't listen to music. You cannot listen to music. No, because they're recording the whole time. Because it's 24 hour and some people pay premium. And your headphones? Headphones? No. Some people pay premium to basically watch 24 hours a day. The cameras are on all day. You're not even allowed to take a nap. the only place there's no camera is in the bathroom and they do have microphones do you know about that horror movie about the zombie outbreak during a show like that? there's a zombie outbreak it's about the cast of a show like that and that outbreak happens outside the walls and we thought because it was one night they do live shows twice a week and it was a Friday night and there was no live show and we all thought that Queen Elizabeth had died because there's a rule with the BBC where you're not allowed to broadcast any new whatever when she dies during Queen of the Universe.

31:38Oh, wow.

31:39Katya Zamolodchikova:But she was only the Queen of England. She was only the Queen of England.

31:42Trixie Mattel:Graham Norton told us.

31:43Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, wow.

31:44Trixie Mattel:Oh, I don't know if I'm supposed to say that, but Graham Norton got the tea before the news. Graham Norton, I think, got a text and was like, here's the tea. It was from Charles. Yeah, but they explained to us when we were filming, they said, we're not going to tell the audience because we're filming in London. It'll be such a... Downer. Yeah, and the artists are getting ready

32:01Katya Zamolodchikova:to do their show. You know what I mean? Oh, it was like, that was a great performance despite Queen Elizabeth with his death. Greg Queen is performing on Thursday night in Los Angeles. Brazilian?

32:11Trixie Mattel:Yeah. She was on Queen of the Universe. She is incredible. She won season one. She won a million, wait, $250 ,000. Pounds. Pounds. Dollars? But she told me, she told us that the conversion rate to Brazil, it was like a lot of money. Oh, wait.

32:25Katya Zamolodchikova:She won a Brazilian dollars. That's a lot of money in Brazil, I can imagine. It was a Brazilian dollars. You're a cunt. She's a Brazilian air.

32:34Trixie Mattel:She's such a good singer. she's such a good singer oh my god I messaged her you're away aren't you are you here

32:39Katya Zamolodchikova:Thursday yeah I don't know oh we have a show yeah we have a gig we're out of town oh I love a college gig so now that you've explained it yes horribly we're not going to explain it well it sounds horrible can you try to pitch it to me like you're my agent I don't know if I can I mean the original setup is that it was a social experiment to watch what happens but there's so many seasons of it now to me it seems it says boring survivor But the audience watching votes people in and out. It's about conversation. Oh, why the gift of gab? Yeah. You would do very well. I would go out of my mind without listening to music.

33:17Katya Zamolodchikova:I would go out of my mind. You know what's interesting? I enjoyed the whole, whole thing. Had these boys who I was like mates with. And then like a week before the end, they all got voted off. And then I was left with Anne, Amanda Barry, who's an older lesbian actress. and another older man, Wayne Sleep, who's a gay man who's a ballerina, like in the Royal Ballet. And the three of them were all of a similar age. And the two gays ended up turning on me and siding with Anne, the person who had voted against all of their rights throughout their entire lives. And it was like this weird thing. Threatened by your perfect glossy skin.

33:55Amanda came into the bathroom once. I'm like sitting there doing my makeup and she was like drunk and like, you need to stop like coming for Anne, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I literally have done nothing but have nice conversations with her about her voting record. And then she was she stormed out of the room. She turned around. She was like, and another thing. I worked with Danny LaRue and I know that drag queens aren't sloppy. That skirt falling off on the way in. That was a setup. And I was like, I meant you like stormed out. And I was like, she was right.

34:26Trixie Mattel:Don't you think if it was a setup, you would have had panties on or panties, bitch. Oh, I thought it was a stunt. No. also I can't believe you thought that skirt was I had it made the night before I went in that's no excuse it looked safety pinned it was pop studs thank you, that's what I'm saying I can't believe you were surprised it fell off I thought it was a planned stunt it was like that paillette fabric it was like super sequins I had this amazing outfit that Howie made that was three pieces, it was like a jacket, a top and shorts and it was my favourite out of all the outfits I was taking in but I was like you can't go in in shorts, you have to wear a gown And so I messaged my stylist, Frank, and he found a piece of the exact same fabric.

35:06It was like, that was the whole scrap of fabric that he bought and like turned into a skirt, put a couple of pop studs on it. And that was it.

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40:48Katya Zamolodchikova:Is there something that's blue? Yes. It's a jacket, pants. I've tried it on several times. We're the same size, except I'm apparently 50 pounds heavier than you. Well, now I have to extend everything in the back.

41:01Trixie Mattel:How did you find out when Katya shit in your bed?

41:04Katya Zamolodchikova:She told me. Thank you. Honesty is the best policy. I've only heard her side of it Honesty is the best policy Was Milk staying there at the time? Mitch was there

41:13Trixie Mattel:This is when Jennifer too

41:15Katya Zamolodchikova:I gave her The gift of an identity She had no head Could you just imagine though If you're going to the trash The dumpster in a building And you're in LA And this is like a dismembered corpse Imagine my mom Imagine my mother my mother Lee Cronin's my mother having to carry or not having to, carrying a box getting to carry a box a box that said mega fuck slut, 25 pounds of fuckable pussy and ass her gay son, crackhead blah blah blah, it's just amazing she does like women, he just likes women

41:59Trixie Mattel:with no heads, no arms and no legs it's very incel adjacent no it's not Like I like women, but I just like them to be dismembered. No, I have an appreciation for torsos. Why did you buy these? I get a kick out of the porn when they're fucking the toy that looks like a miniature woman's butt. Oh, I have one of those. No, it's like the tiniest pair of tits with a tiny butt.

42:23Katya Zamolodchikova:And I was like, that is so corny. I haven't seen those. That's crazy. Well, there's a whole. Well, a little Barbie pussy that stretches. There's a whole. Oh, my God. So there's this genre of porn. It's OK. C C diff C fnm What do you think it stands for Country men's Clothed female Naked male And then Adjacent to that is like miniatures So like Fucking miniature women or miniature guys Like actual humans who are little people It's all like animated or whatever Like computer porn or whatever But it's very woke to be like I'll watch the porn if the women can keep their clothes on. No, but it's, but I stumbled upon it because I don't like hardcore porn.

43:11Katya Zamolodchikova:I like, I mean, I like Cinemax. I want to see The Making Love. Let's take a break. Fuck off. I want to see The Making Love. No, but it's like, I love gauzy. I don't want to see film noir. Yeah. Like I want lighting, but there's this, it goes like this, like it's like two women. It's like humiliation adjacent to it gets into that but like two women will be clothed and they call a guy into the office and then they say he's naked and he'll be like can I please put my clothes on and they're like no. Oh interesting. And that's it.

43:44Trixie Mattel:Oh it's like a shame thing.

43:46Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah yeah yeah. See clothed female naked male. Have you heard of sissy hypnoporn? Of course. That queen from Newcastle. Sissy hypnoporn. That majority shore queen. One of my lovers. Looking from majority shore. Oh Jin is dicking your son. She's from Newcastle I think. Jin is dicking your son. I think she made her from Newcastle. Sarah Jessica Car Park is another. Minivan Driver. Minivan Driver. Minivan Driver. Wait, wait, wait. There was a Toyota Corolla, but she died. But Toyota's not a real name. It kind of is. It's not. Is Beyonce? Yeah. It's not a real name. She made it. I mean, Courtney's like, there's only one, I feel like there's one woman on the planet called Beyonce at the time Beyonce was named.

44:27Trixie Mattel:Beyonce Knowles. Yeah. Do you think anybody else is named Beyonce? Now there is. imagine being some kid in Beyonce well there was

44:34Katya Zamolodchikova:oh so you think you're Beyonce

44:35Trixie Mattel:like it's that there was

44:37Katya Zamolodchikova:who was it there were other

44:41Trixie Mattel:can I say I know nothing's original I don't know why in Caucasian culture we don't make why do we all have five names oh hang on oh I love both Brian no see I love that though I like the Russian style Sunday roast I'm Shane I like the Russian style

44:59Katya Zamolodchikova:there's 12 names What's your name? Is your name Shane? No, I like it. The Russians do it like 12 names.

45:07Trixie Mattel:RuPaul's like mom made up RuPaul. Why aren't our moms making up our names?

45:10Katya Zamolodchikova:No, they are, but they're McNavy and McDalton and McBrayland and they're spelled B-R-A-G-H-L-E-E-I-G-H-E-N. I love a meet and greet when you're like, her name's like Melanie. How do you spell that? Q-L-M-T, triple I. All the consonants are silence.

45:27Trixie Mattel:Ireland, those traditional Irish spellings names or Welsh. I love learning how to spell them and then I love learning how to spell them and then when they say their name just spelling it correctly and them just being gagged. I learned how to spell like three or four of the like the weird Irish names. Not only do we weird, the Irish ones It's the spelling. You have, unless you're from Ireland, there is no way you're going to know how they're spelling these names. Or pronounced at all. I mean Irish is so crazy.

45:54Katya Zamolodchikova:Gaelic Irish is so different. But wait, so are your parents ashamed of you? No, I have the most lovely supportive parents.

46:12Katya Zamolodchikova:So how long have your parents hated you?

46:14Trixie Mattel:And of course, Courtney's pivot is my family is so loving.

46:18Katya Zamolodchikova:I need to reiterate this to you because this is a common theme of this. Every time we do get together, it is literally like the yin. What did you describe it? It's the bizarro version. so like it's not if everything had gone right gone right gone wrong it's sliding doors we're both Gwyneth Paltrow we're both Gwyneth Paltrow she gets the pixie cut I keep the brown hair but like and she comes over sometimes with her three suitcases full of vitamins wait did you get into the peptides you were the originator I did the melanotan too in 2010 did you get a boner did you throw up yeah I wrote it because I wrote Mean Gays my song Mean Gays which came out in 2014 got played last night on Australian music video television for the first time ever called the Mean Gays they live in West Hollywood they're the mean mean gays we had this conversation at Ice Cream last night with two of my gay friends we're talking about Mean Gays and WeHo and I don't like it they're mean I don't not all of them no but there are a lot of I mean the song was written in 2014 you're only catching up now no no no I know I know I don't go there very often and I don't, people aren't mean to me if they recognize me from the show.

47:31Katya Zamolodchikova:Otherwise, if they don't, they just push me over or run right through me. Well, I remember saying, I'm like that dumb person who's like, oh, no, everybody's nice to me. I don't understand. Yeah, because you're a gorgeous, white, famous man. And then somebody was like, watch how they treat somebody else. And I remember sitting in the smoking area and this girl asking one of them for a lighter and he was just like, get out of here, you fat client. Set her on fire and burned her to the ground. I was like, oh my God, you're right. And then the ambulance came. And they run over her. It's crazy. I'd honestly never.

48:03I'm like that dumb. Like, everybody's nice to me. Yeah, because you're Barbie.

48:08Trixie Mattel:That's like Fina will be like, I hate that fucking bitch. And I'll be like, she's nice. And Fina will be like, she's nice to you. To you. And I'll be like, oh, wow, yeah.

48:13Katya Zamolodchikova:And then, so when, at what point did you, well, maybe you've had this, but when did you realize that people were being nice to you because they wanted something from you, whether that's a picture or money or whatever? Or sex. I mean, in 2010 Do you think people don't have sex with her?

48:27Trixie Mattel:I think a lot of people do They do In 2010, when I moved here Was when I realized that How did you develop a sixth sense? No, because I just think If I'm having a good experience That I don't care I can tell if somebody's like Have you been robbed? We love good experiences I love good experiences They just so rarely happen to us I've been robbed I've been robbed in my house twice And on the street once

48:54Katya Zamolodchikova:I've only stayed with you once. You've been, no, seriously. I've been mugged. Were you hurt? It was like a little bit of blood. Emotionally. A little bit of blood? There was like three or four large men. Describe in detail the experience. I've been fully mugged. You're fully mugged right now. Girl, that looks Maxxer is out mugging you. Oh my God. Did someone say mug? It was 2010 and I had like a Nokia monophonic phone. Vanity was doing - Nokia. Nokia. Nokia, you call it here. Vanity was doing turn back timeshare at Slide and she had forgotten her bobby pins. And I went back to her house to get the bobby pins and I was walking up Crown Street.

49:34With your phone, which is this big. It was like that big.

49:38Trixie Mattel:Vanity sending you home for a bobby pin? Go find the unpublished Harry Potter book. It's so crazy. Like she can't find a bobby pin from somewhere else. Well, we were at the club. I need you to go to my house. Get on the train, ride 40 minutes over. It was walking distance, to be fair. Okay, good. And I was walking up the hill, like, minding my own business, texting on my phone, and three men came out of a dark alley. And, like, I just, I was on the ground. That was the first thing I knew. With your legs in the air. Maybe this is how, like, I've encapsulated trauma. But I, and I'm not trying to sound dramatic, but I remember being, I remember laying on the ground with them kicking me in the head.

50:14Oh, my God. And I remember thinking, I'm glad they're wearing sneakers and not boots. Well, that's a perfectly reasonable thought. But you don't think that when you're, I remember in the moment. Pollyann over here. Yeah, I was like, I'm so grateful.

50:26Katya Zamolodchikova:She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, let's look on the bright side. I guess I needed a new nose anyway. Like, I've been meaning to talk to my PCP. I'm going to go for my annual checkup. And then I got, they were like, give me a wallet. And I didn't have a wallet. I have a purse. I had a Gucci money clip. And I was like, but there was no money in it. And they're like, give me a wallet. And I was like, it's a money clip. It's Gucci. Please take it. And in the confusion, they were like, what? And they couldn't Google the value because it was way before smartphones. And I get to slide. I walk in the door and Vandy's like, oh, don't worry.

50:58I got the bobby pins. And she was like, are you all right? And I was like, no.

51:04Trixie Mattel:Did you cry? Yeah. Of course you cried. And then she came. She did the number. And then she came to the police station with me. She beat the shit up. And driving. As Turnback Timeshare. Because I had to report the hate crime. Where was the story 10 years ago, Courtney? And then there's like a wooden pew in the police station. And I had to go into like the room where you give a statement. Vanity sits down and waits. I go into the room. I come back out. She's taken off her wig and she's sleeping on it as a pillow on the pew in the police station. And I was like, that's a friend.

51:37Katya Zamolodchikova:Did she do any in character with the stab? Snap out of it. Yeah. I'm here to report a murder. My friend was killed. My friend was hate crimes. This is a travesty.

51:50Trixie Mattel:We rewatched season seven last year because it was 10 years. That means it's 12 years this year of season six. When's the last time you watched it? I watched it during COVID. That's 2020. 2020. And I.

52:03Katya Zamolodchikova:What'd you think? I really loved it. I mean, your runways are. You can't edit out a runway. You can't edit out a runway. And I got to say, I think season six in a lot of ways was the apex that we jumped the shark after that or turned into something else. You burned the runway every time except for that red look, that thing on your face. But I had to make that myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else was showstopping. I loved your wings. In a time before showstopping on the runway was really a thing. And also conceptual. They were all like - Klaus Nomi. Klaus Nomi Malone. Klaus Nomi. The giant hair with the Victor and Rolf bed.

52:36Katya Zamolodchikova:Victor and Rolf bed was so cool. Incredible. like references like a full realized like look for not a not just like drag queen look number four and great hairlines oh and my my aboriginal and australian flag gown oh that's right I didn't see that one the wings were truly spectacular I mean they're now in a museum I donated them to the powerhouse museum in australia the powerhouse museum fierce that's what it's called and what else what was your favorite look from your season original

53:07Trixie Mattel:I mean you can't go past the wings recently it's so funny you're here I didn't even know you were going to be here today you didn't know I was going to be here we only knew about you today I'm gatekeeping just today they showed me a clip of season 6 untucked because they had the last like real yeah the last real untucked

53:22Katya Zamolodchikova:iconic untucked

53:24Trixie Mattel:is the one where Gia was yelling at Milk about her pregnant look the one where she's like drag is dressed as a girl and it's not giving feminine at all Gia really went for the jugular on that program I remember having a conversation with Gia talking her out of coming out as trans on the show like off camera. We were like talking about it. We're famously. She's very close minded. She's like rolling or like this. I'm just kidding. Well I was like I just remember like having this like weird conversation now in retrospect especially that she is a trans woman but I think she was like questioning at the time whether she was or wasn't.

54:02And I was like I don't know if this is the place where you really want to share that information. Yeah that's probably smart PR advice. Laganja's breakdown. Oh God. You were there. It was so much worse in real life. You were there. I'm sure it was. And also,

54:14Katya Zamolodchikova:I mean, not to make this about us, but like, you guys had a super glossy, highly produced, some could argue just as good as the show, Untucked. I mean, iconic. We're Laganja stands as well. So many iconic moments. We walk in there. You couldn't have understood what happened. You know Jen Stander producing it? You do not understand what we went through.

54:34Trixie Mattel:When we walked into Untucked,

54:36Katya Zamolodchikova:and it was some,

54:37Trixie Mattel:some area.

54:37Katya Zamolodchikova:It was surveillance footage of a parking lot. That's what we got.

54:42Trixie Mattel:That's what we got. We got the last gun. An unused area of the soundstage with some five-gallon buckets and some baked Cheetos. It was humiliating. There must have been a reason they stopped it. But for me as a fan of the show, it was so awesome to watch it.

54:55Katya Zamolodchikova:Untucked was so good. And now it's just like a kiki. Season six Untucked was so fucking good. Season six, it's phenomenal. I mean, they literally cannibalized it for their next 10 seasons, all those moments.

55:05Trixie Mattel:Because they had a door. Yeah. And obviously it's a great season, but it was a good untuck season because these bitches were at each other's throats. Yeah. I see comments every now and then like a Reddit thread comes up and you start reading and they always say lovely things about me on Reddit, which I appreciate. Yeah. Sound like Donald Trump then. They always say lovely things about me. They say I'm great. Whenever I read it. They say I'm beautiful. I read a comment that I agree with and I feel so vindicated where they're like, you know what? I just rewatched season six of Drag Race and Courtney acted so beautiful and perfect until episode the rap challenge.

55:37And then all of a sudden she doesn't really appear in much of the rest of the season. And even when I won the interview challenge, like they were like, somehow they edited that out as well. And the only other thing that really happened was like her and Jocelyn. The row. And I was like, I felt that too. And I just love like reading. Oh, in my memoir, my favorite, I was thinking about this yesterday. I wrote the Drag Race section. The chapter opens with the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race season six is Courtney Act. And then it was like, stop, reset, back to one kind of thing. Because you film all three.

56:16Oh, yes. You film the fake ending. You know about the gag though. That they filmed Bianca and Adore doing a tie. And I was just like standing there.

56:24Trixie Mattel:They didn't film a Courtney ending at all. They filmed a Courtney ending. But they filmed everybody winning. and then they filmed Adore and Bianca tie.

56:32Katya Zamolodchikova:That is... It was just very like... I have thoughts about that because that is humiliating. It was so humiliating. That is evil. For All Stars...

56:40Trixie Mattel:That's mean. The mean gays. For All Stars 3, we filmed a tie for me and Kennedy, but I also didn't think that they would do it. Yeah, but that makes sense. It's a top two. But then in the next All Stars, Trinity and Monet tie and we never filmed the tie. I was there. we never filmed a tie they frankensteined it together yes we never filmed a tie and then there was a tie

57:04Katya Zamolodchikova:I was there watching it live with them and they were gagged

57:07Trixie Mattel:but I remember thinking like wouldn't you film a tie if it was at all possible

57:13Katya Zamolodchikova:well that just goes to show you this is

57:17Trixie Mattel:are the people like how come they didn't film a tie of you did I miss it I honestly it's like a scene in a movie where like somebody unplugs, like something really dramatic happens and somebody unplugs the sound cord and the movie goes silent, but you still see the action happening. Or like when the lights go out and the

57:33Katya Zamolodchikova:check gets changed. In the last minute. Did you want to cry? In front of a studio audience.

57:41Trixie Mattel:Because you were a lot younger too. I would describe like, I went through like some sort of psychological something in the hotel room afterwards. I was checking lamps for microphones. I got like paranoid That's like pooky behavior She goes to her room, she goes well they want to film my crowning in here That's why they didn't do it

58:01Katya Zamolodchikova:Let's get the lights in here please Should I just act natural? Should I get in bed? Is RuPaul coming here?

58:07Trixie Mattel:She's already in the bed She goes back to RuPaul's in the bed with a towel on her head Being like condragulations I had Simon Sherrywood with me We didn't have any way to get Was this when you were in the gold? Oh no no I was like in a pink, not Perspex, but like opalescent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. I first wore this like. Oh, which is the premiere? You wore the gold. Who did you think was going to win? Bianca. I definitely knew that I was not going to win. I definitely knew it was Bianca or Adore. I mean, when season six cut filming, we all thought. Adore. Darian was going to win because we were still a top four.

58:45Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's diabolical the way they do that. I hate that. Yeah. and we all thought that each other could have won and I've checked with Bianca and Adora and I'm like tell me straight like am I deluded and Bianca was like no I absolutely loved you while we were filming I didn't hate you until I watched it back on television I mean I thought like I thought Ginger was gonna win when we left when we left season 7 yeah we all thought Ginger would win so how

59:12it's funny because like I went through when I wrote my memoir I wrote like so much and then I didn't put a lot of it in the book because I realized I was just saving it for this pod I realized I was just venting and it was sort of like stuff I needed to process and then I did one final when I was recording the audio book I was still able to make edits uh-huh and I was serious yeah and I was reading the the drag race section I was like do you know what I just put that bit in there because I wanted to like like revenge or like I wanted to kick them and I was like I'm going to take all those bits out.

59:46I did still say a lot in the memoir that I think maybe, uh, if I wasn't ever going to be on all stars again, probably definitely won't be after the memoir. Right. But I thought that it was all like interesting. It's dishy.

1:00:01Katya Zamolodchikova:It's, it's, I mean, it's very dishy. I mean, I'm, it's such a, I don't know. I just feel like if you really didn't think you were going to win, it's, it's not that you wanted them to do a crowning.

1:00:13Trixie Mattel:Cause it sounds like you didn't think it would win, but you think the principle of them not doing one when everyone is like, like they can't run the tape for five minutes and just do it. It's inconsiderate.

1:00:22Katya Zamolodchikova:To me, it's mean. It is, but also like I get it. It's TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. But like I knew from... They're probably like, we don't need it. She lost, right? Yeah. We don't need it. This ugly blonde bitch that everybody hates, right?

1:00:34Trixie Mattel:And she's kind of older.

1:00:37Katya Zamolodchikova:Than Bianca? Oh yeah.

1:00:40Trixie Mattel:Odor was what, 21? Yeah, she was so young. Violet was 21. everything off Amazon. Everything she was wearing

1:00:46Katya Zamolodchikova:she bought off Amazon. Girl, when she showed up, I was ashamed because when she showed up on All Stars, she had all this stuff. I think it was from that Australian company. What was that Australian company?

1:00:56Trixie Mattel:Sequin Shell Stoppers?

1:00:57Katya Zamolodchikova:No. House of Priscilla? No. Cox and Frogs? No. I forget. It's like a... Lee Cronin?

1:01:09Inside joke.

1:01:10Katya Zamolodchikova:Sorry. Lee Cronin. Sorry. Sorry. It's such an inside joke. House of Ugly or something like that. House of Priscilla. No, it's not drag stuff. It's like fashion. She said House of Ugly and you said House of Priscilla. You hear that House of Priscilla? Do you know what I'm talking about? Discount Universe. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Beautiful, cool shit. Where does Dora get her clothes?

1:01:28Trixie Mattel:Discount Universe.

1:01:29Katya Zamolodchikova:No, it sounds like that cheap fashion brand lately or whatever. Fashion brand company. Yeah, it's like ironic. Oh. They're cool. I saw it. I peeked at her wardrobe. I was like, oh my God, you're going to look so cunt this season. And then she left, which I think was really wonderful. I love quitting.

1:01:49Trixie Mattel:You know, I think the golden rule in reality TV is that nothing's more interesting than what really happens. Yeah. When people when Ben left, we were just like, wow, thank God. But like, I don't know. We're we're getting ready to watch All Stars to like this summer.

1:02:05Katya Zamolodchikova:Have you been on All Stars? I've been on the second one. I mean, this was with The Door. That was where I told you. It was like 10 or 11 years ago. I was trying to think this yesterday

1:02:14Trixie Mattel:33 or 4 years ago it was 10 years ago this year it didn't come out in the summer

1:02:24Trixie Mattel:it's 2026 now

1:02:25Katya Zamolodchikova:it was 2016 yeah

1:02:27Trixie Mattel:so we're getting ready to watch that and I'm excited to see Adora how did you find watching it back how did you find watching back your season it was like you're so young I was like it's like watching it happen to somebody else

1:02:39Katya Zamolodchikova:yeah yeah also it's like I don't particularly enjoy watching myself be mid. So like, that's like, I can, the big flops, I'm like, oh God, that's so cringy. Or the, or the winds is like, great. But I was, I had a lot of mid moments and that's just not fun. I find watching Drag Race Back, this is an original thought I'm just having, so I don't know if it'll make sense. But like, you know, when you go to therapy and you talk about childhood trauma, right? And you, now. Courtney's my therapist. Yeah. No, really. when you something that happened to you in your past at the time you sort of put it in a box not able to understand or deal with it so it's sort of like saved as trauma it's rattling around in your head until you come back as an adult with a therapist in a safe environment to unpack it understand it from adult eyes and reframe it and help sort of dissolve the trauma or stick it on Rebecca Ferguson watching drag race back 10 years later is like childhood regression therapy because now you're an adult you see that it didn't end you see that your career went on you see that people love you and you watch it back and you're like oh this is all just a part of me and the trauma from the experience is gone it's a bullet point on the fucking resume you have to conquer every single English speaking country in the goddamn world I just

1:03:54Trixie Mattel:when I watched it I just remember being so young and so scared and when you realize watching it from so far back now it's like it's a fun TV show why didn't I have more fun why did I like kind of ruin it for myself by caring too much in the wrong ways yeah If I could wish on my 24-year-old self, it would be like, why don't you have a little fucking fun, ho? Girl. It's not that serious. Oh, my God. But I felt like it was so serious.

1:04:17Katya Zamolodchikova:It felt like life or death. Well, because at that point, that was the biggest thing we'd ever done. And we didn't know what would happen afterwards. Because there was no All Stars as yet.

1:04:26Trixie Mattel:No. I mean, you also both did great on your seasons. So it's not like you had regrets in your competing. No, I'm talking.

1:04:32Katya Zamolodchikova:I must have only went home season two, though. And that was like, I mean, episode two. And that, to me, was like a fade worse than death. Yes. And it was like, it was like going home first. Yes, it is. And it's like, well, apologies to everybody who went home second. But like, we don't know who they are. Don't you think they'd agree? I, yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But it felt like you're going out to war and you died. Yes. Like, because. And then when it comes out, it's just like, you don't know what you don't know. You don't know that your life is going to go on because let's be fair for a lot of people who have been on the show.

1:05:04That was kind of the end. Yeah. Or like a drag career. doing some gigs, but like some haven't, but like the three of us have been fortunate to like take it and make something else and grow and, and have great careers that we love. Yeah. But. Cause we all have really tight pussies. We didn't know that then. Yeah. Less tight this morning. Did you get fucked this morning? Did. I'm not going to fart the same again ever.

1:05:28Trixie Mattel:Don't. When you. And you know, she's got them weird vegan farts too. Mary, this person has lived with me.

1:05:36Katya Zamolodchikova:You don't understand the pull my finger. you don't understand the pull my finger Mary you don't understand behind the scenes this perfect looking woman is a rotted skunk but they don't smell they don't that's why I hang out with Manatee I want a lady a woman of couth and decorum she has none of it but she will waltz down the stairs in her tiny little shorts with her perfect tan thighs and she'll be like in the kitchen glowing it's six in the morning I come down looking like yeah yeah she's like pull my finger and goes sorry for the listeners it's tighter than that and then like like a fresh spring rain like a like a lemon verbena candle i also i also have citronella citronella no nice no mosquitoes left in the room lavender it's peach bellini meanwhile i'm just i like i go high my breath it comes out green vapor i also have an enchanted butthole where i don't have to douche not ever but i know what's going on.

1:06:34Katya Zamolodchikova:But you're very in tune and in touch with your GI tract. I am. My microbiome is one of my most important assets. It's impressive. That's good. Yeah. The gut microbiome.

1:06:45Trixie Mattel:The gut microbiome. One time I came to Courtney's gut microbiome. One time I came to Courtney's house and we made I don't remember this. We cooked like a vegan green chef meal together. Oh yeah. She was like come over and we just eat that. And it was great. No I just had a flashback to P-Town 2014. Before you did drag race after after but maybe it hadn't aired or it was airing was it the year we both worked in p-town or was it yeah there's that great photo of me laying on the ground in the in the australia aboriginal flag dress and you're just like pointing and laughing and i think like flicking flyers i'm throwing flyers at her on the ground it's like a parade there's like a car there's a there's a jeep behind me yeah the gay guys pointing and laughing yeah it's just kind of fun to make corny feel bad it is i mean for the first time being bullied and it was as a joke

1:07:33Katya Zamolodchikova:it's like just kidding we love you get up would you like some cash wait so you were mugged and then you're just trying to recount all the trauma so yeah you kicked in the face and then oh we got a wrap um uh but uh what would you say that did they ask you that diabolical question what would you say to little shane did they do that on your season i don't remember yeah they did and i find What would you say to little Shane? Why are you so little? What would you say to dying Shane? Oh, well, little Shane, I have done this in therapy, right? And I've heard about them talk about like your inner child and tell them whatever.

1:08:09And I actually had this really cathartic moment in therapy where my like core trauma is why don't you like me? And it's in high school. I'm like 15. and in my mind I'm standing like all of the boys would sit there at A Block and I'm standing there looking at all of the boys and I'm asking like in my mind like why don't you like me and that was always like the thing because like mom and dad very loving very supportive like grew up with a very healthy sense of self worth but it was always like why don't you like me and then also the unrequited love thing as a gay kid and having crushes on the boys well you weren't sucking their cocks I know but I wanted to

1:08:46Trixie Mattel:there's something very shitty about having to go through some of those formative like high school experiences devoid of actual real romance. Going to like prom. If you were going with someone you have a crush on butterflies for that probably is so the main part of it. Imagine fucking shit. Do you know what I mean? I also had crushes on girls though like legitimate. And I would like write them. I was like pathetic. I'd like write them love letters and buy them flowers and they would just be like Oh damn! Okay faggot. And I think that's why I'm gay

1:09:20Katya Zamolodchikova:Those bitches turned you gay And those muggers made you I'm an incel But instead of just not having sex with women I pivoted and had sex with men instead

1:09:29Trixie Mattel:Catboys What's a catboy? Girl, the incels, they be having sex with them catboys Alright, we'll see you next time Listen, I'm not here to educate you

1:09:40Katya Zamolodchikova:Catboys I'm a white bald man and my culture is not a joke Next up on the bald beard we'll interview A catboy

1:09:46Trixie Mattel:I hate to be problematic but I try to make people sell things when they're on here Is there anything people can buy from you? You know what I want people to buy from me? Gigs this summer in the United States Because I am here in your country and I feel like people don't think of Courtney Act as being here and doing like bar gigs but I did some bar gigs last summer and I actually love them so much because I don't have to do them all the time

1:10:09Katya Zamolodchikova:I've been doing them too Wiggle gigs are turnt Do you lip sync or no? No I actually think I want to try lip syncing I was going to say, if you haven't lip synced in a while, it's fun. I haven't lip synced since 2008. You're going to get your life. Two. You know a lot of songs. Don't lip sync your own music. Don't give them the Olivia. Give them the Kylie. Give them the Kylie. Give them Kylie mashup. Because I look at queens who lip sync. Like as a singer, you have to like not have fun. You can't go to the bar. You can't be loud. You've got to like protect your gifts. Sure, sure, sure. And so I've actually have learned that like wearing earplugs everywhere.

1:10:41I travel with earplugs everywhere I go. Like these tiny little ones. Nobody knows I'm wearing them. and then I don't lose my voice because it's called the Lombard effect where when you can't hear your voice, you project over the music and you just yell and you lose your voice. But when you wear the earplugs, you can hear your voice.

1:10:55Katya Zamolodchikova:Do you lip sync? When you lip sync, like so when you're in the car, lip syncing on the van back to Drag Race because you know you're lip syncing that night. The girls told me that my voice, like I don't lip sync. She sings in a high voice. like I say.

1:11:11Trixie Mattel:No, do the voice.

1:11:12Katya Zamolodchikova:Do it one chance fancy. I can't do it unless I'm listening to music, but it's like

1:11:20Trixie Mattel:isn't that crazy I was doing this gig recently if you go to one of her gigs and she's lip syncing if you get close enough she's doing that but you know what happens when you're lip syncing into a mic and they leave the mic live that happened to Coco Jumbo and Vibe I was doing this gig in Sydney and I had in-ear monitors in because I was like hosting this film festival and they were on like throwing to these girls on the stage and they had microphones and they were lip syncing to like, I will survive, but they didn't know their mics were live. And they're like, I will survive. Long as I'm so loving on.

1:11:54That's you, girl. That's me.

1:11:55Katya Zamolodchikova:But they, oh God, that's so fierce. That's so fierce. I wish at your shows,

1:11:58Trixie Mattel:the audience could pay extra for like a silent disco where they could wear headphones of your live. That's a good idea. And they'll see the isolated audio of your mic.

1:12:04Katya Zamolodchikova:All they would get is like sweat droplets and huffing. What is a pussy boy? A cat boy. Cat boy. Cat boy. We're going to Google it. We can't talk about this today. Cliffhanging. it. Okay. Yeah. So book me, book me in a gay bar. Go see her live. Like play Louisville. Mary. What are the best drag gigs? It is. It is cunt. Shout out to the play Louisville and Nashville. In Nashville, Louisville, Nashville, they would turn up, they would turn out and they would, they would just stuff your fucking pussy filled with dollars. I have done bebabs in Alabama like six times. Mobile. Mobile. Panama City Beach.

1:12:35More times than any other city.

1:12:36Trixie Mattel:I've done Mobile. That is a fun place. But they still smoke inside. Yeah. It's like a small, it's like a, it's a big square. Yeah. room, right? I remember it. There's a downstairs and upstairs with Miss C. She's like the diva that's been there for...

1:12:49Katya Zamolodchikova:What about Splash Bar in Panama City Beach with the glamour shed? I've never been there.

1:12:54Trixie Mattel:The chicken shack? Thank God. That's where Miss Fame had the hair clip while she lip synced. Tentacles? Tentacles. Now you're just fucking with us. I know. Tentacles. Haven't you heard of tentacles? You haven't done the tentacles gig? You have done the tentacles gig. I have not done tentacles. You are making this up.

1:13:11Katya Zamolodchikova:Tentacles? She's a liar. Yeah, goodbye. Have you had Bianca and Detox talk about tentacles? No! I'm doing it in July. Alaska's doing it in August. Well, stay tuned. We'll be back with Courtney Act if she does her tentacles.

1:13:21Trixie Mattel:Thank you. Give it up for Courtney. Thank you. I'll have a cold kick. See you at Tentacles. See you there. Get your wristband for the meet and greet at Tentacles.

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