In short
Recap/discussion of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 7 Episode 3, “ShakesQueer, Sewing, & Excuses,” focusing on the mini-challenge (Soul Train as grannies), the main Shakespeare-themed scripted comedy challenge, and the episode’s runway critiques—especially the “bearded runway” looks and who struggled.
Guests
Trixie Mattel and Katya (both drag performers/comedians; known for Trixie Motel and Katya’s long-running comedy/drag work). They also reference their own Drag Race/All-Stars experiences and behind-the-scenes production details.
Key claims
The Shakespeare comedy challenge was “rotten” and not funny even if performed well; scripted material plus poor acting/leadership made it a “car crash.” Jasmine struggled hardest, and ShakesQueer (Jasmine) was often picked last despite talent. They argue some contestants (e.g., Violet, Fame) show social/competitive issues, and that the season’s “old vs young” theme didn’t feel real in real time.
Notable examples
Jasmine bringing groceries; Soul Train granny looks; Pearl’s “Muppet-y” physical comedy; Kennedy as a weak team leader; RuPaul’s “no excuses” yelling; runway beards (Violet praised; Ginger and Kennedy criticized).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCreative Lives
0:54 to 1:50
Discussion on life's creative projects and personal experiences.
“Welcome to Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber, your new favorite podcast where nothing is off limits and every lemon can be turned into a laugh.”
Bathroom Revelations
1:50 to 4:28
Sharing humorous and personal stories related to a newly renovated bathroom.
“Today, I am so proud to say that is not the case.”
Wes Anderson and Movies
4:28 to 7:11
Discussion about Wes Anderson films and recommendations.
“Also, it must have been annoying for you.”
Reflections on Drag Race
7:11 to 9:26
Insights on Drag Race season 7 and its infamous challenges.
“But Todd said, hey, just watching the pod, did I ever tell you Shakespeare was my challenge?”
Voice Note from Challenge Producer
9:26 to 10:01
A surprise voice note from a challenge producer discussing the Shakespeare challenge.
“People always love to say that season seven was so bad directly to my face, which is weird.”
Competition Dynamics
10:01 to 14:01
Examining the dynamics of competition among contestants in Drag Race.
“I'm not even saying, you know Ginger would do it.”
Friendship Dynamics with Violet
14:01 to 17:05
An exploration of the friendship and admiration between the hosts and Violet.
“Why am I wearing a golfer hat and a pug print shirt?”
Recapping Shakespeare Challenge
18:51 to 23:12
The hosts dive into the details and experiences of the Shakespeare challenge.
“When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt.”
Reflections on Performance
23:13 to 28:00
Hosts reflect on their performances and challenges faced during the competition.
“I'm watching going, she's one of the strongest competitors.”
Reflections on a Forgettable Performance
28:00 to 30:20
The hosts discuss their feelings about a recent performance in Drag Race, highlighting the lack of engagement and memorable moments.
“Like in my group, I think Max and I believe it's Max and Ginger in love.”
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Critique of the Script and Performance
30:20 to 34:20
A detailed examination of the issues with the script and performance quality, including the difficulties faced by contestants.
“She was like, hey, cheerleader tryouts happened today.”
The Impact of Stress on Creativity
34:20 to 36:20
Discussion on how stress affected contestants' performances, emphasizing the importance of breaks and mental health.
“Otherwise, imagine if we just killed it, it would have been so fucking boring.”
Runway Reviews and Opinions
37:40 to 42:01
Hosts critique various runway performances from Drag Race, sharing differing opinions on the styles and creativity displayed.
“I'm Suzanne Lambert, comedian, mean girl, and internet menace, and this is the Mean But True podcast.”
Diverse Opinions on Drag Race Looks
42:01 to 44:16
The hosts discuss differing opinions on drag performances and runway looks.
“Yeah, I thought it was one of her real, I hated it for some reason.”
Behind the Scenes: Critique Process
44:16 to 46:08
Insight into the lengthy critique process and the challenges faced by contestants.
“And then if there's six of you, that's five minutes times five is 25.”
Runway Looks and Challenges
46:08 to 48:55
Discussion on various runway looks from the episode and their impressions.
“You should have asked me to come out and shoot you.”
RuPaul's Expectations and Pressure
48:55 to 51:08
Exploration of RuPaul's high expectations and the pressure contestants face.
“I just remember Kennedy walking around and she would look at the food and say, this food nasty, and then she would say that she went to Boston Market.”
Emotional Impact of Eliminations
51:08 to 54:58
Reflections on the emotional impact of eliminations and friendships formed.
“You want to look right at them and go, I started it this morning.”
Candy Ho and Cultural Insights
54:58 to 56:00
Discussion on the contestant Candy Ho and cultural perspectives during the show.
“I mean, at this point, you have never seen you and I talk on camera.”
Candy Ho and Drag Race Insights
56:00 to 1:01:54
Discussion about Candy Ho's character and experiences on Drag Race.
“She has a weird, weird, weird bite that I can't, I should have put down verbatim.”
Looking Ahead to Next Episodes
1:01:54 to 1:02:48
Anticipation and reflections on future Drag Race challenges and episodes.
“Everything about watching this is fucking crazy.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Trixie Mattel:Welcome to Rug Cuddle with us. A podcast for all of you creative weirdos out there. I'm Kate and some of you may know me as Mr. Kate. And I'm Joey. Mr. Kate's grounded in reality other half. You may have met us on the internet over the past decade. We have the largest interior design channel on YouTube, have decorated for thousands of people, have millions of followers, billions of views, our own furniture line. But life is more than pretty rooms and 15 minute YouTube videos. That's right. Every Tuesday, we're sitting down for an hour with each other and more importantly with you, peeling back all the layers of how all of life is really a creative project.
0:36Trixie Mattel:Parenting, relationships, all the things that inspire you in your daily lives. We'll laugh. We will cry. We'll learn. And my sister and I will gross Joey out with our romantic book obsession. Listen to Rug Cuddle with us every Tuesday on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll see you on the rug. Dating disasters. Internet idiots. and kids spending all of our coins. Gross! Welcome to Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber, your new favorite podcast where nothing is off limits and every lemon can be turned into a laugh. We're comedians and moms, so we listen and we don't judge. Girl, yes, we do.
1:15Trixie Mattel:New episodes drop every Tuesday. Subscribe to Quit Playing with Jasmine and Amber wherever you listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, or YouTube. Watch us act a fool. and look good doing it. And remember, quit playing with Jasmine and Amber.
1:36Trixie Mattel:Do you know that my new thing is to buy myself makeup on TikTok shop while I'm high? And then when it comes, I think it's PR. I'm like, I've been gifted. And then I look, check my email. I'm like, oh, there's a receipt. A Lamborghini Diablo. So what were you going to say? Remember when my house was filled with dangerous black mold? Oh, yeah. Today, I am so proud to say that is not the case. And not only that, my bathroom is so fucking cunty. And do you know what I did in my bathroom yesterday? I had fucking sex with a man. Can't you wait till you get off the john? Mary, my shower is so sexually active and encouraging.
2:15A rando or like a person? No, no, a person I know. We saw the Wes Anderson movie, the Phoenician something. How was it? Fabulous. Love it. It's the Phoenician chronic? No. It's the Phoenician... It's like situation or something like that. Great. Michael Cera is fucking hysterical. Love him. He's hysterical. He's so, so good. Highly recommend it. I mean, I love Wes Anderson's movies. Yeah. I've never seen one, I don't think. Are you fucking kidding me? No. Oh, shit.
2:48Trixie Mattel:We're going to get you on that gig. It's Big Lebowski, right? No. That's the Coen Brothers. It's World Tenenbaums. Yes. I've never seen it. Okay, I'm going to give you three that you're going to adore. Which would I start with? I would start with the Royal Tenenbaums. Okay. And then I would say you should watch French Dispatch maybe? Wasn't there one last year too? There's been like every other, yeah, yeah, French Dispatch. I know, can I say how I know about it? Yeah. People always tag the Trixie Motel as like accidentally Wes Anderson. Wes Anderson? They're wrong. Because of the color and the structure.
3:18Well, yeah, he has a very like stylized point of view visually that's very identifiable. It's like, but sometimes it ventures into like cutesy rather than like quirky, whatever. But it's a great movie. Lovely length, by the way. About a hundred minutes. That's perfect. I know. It's fucking perfect. And we were kind of being gross. We were like one of maybe six people in the theater. I was feeling up his dick. In the movie theater? Yeah. I was feeling up on his dick. Did he know? Yeah, yeah. He enjoyed it. And then we went to my - He went to my - I showed him my new house and then, or the new whatever.
3:52We went into that shower. It got sexual so fast. Red light special? Black light, actually. No, it's not black, but it's all black and white. It's so easy to have sex in there. It's cunty. Right. Huge bench. Fits five people. Did you get scared of slipping in the shower? No, because I intentionally designed the floor to be non-slip.
4:13Trixie Mattel:Good for you. Thank you. You know, I'm really happy because I remember a time just a few months ago when this was like the bane of your life. It was horrible. Not to be dramatic, but it really sucked. It really fucking sucked. It was un-fucking pleasant. It was tough, and it was hard to see. Also, it must have been annoying for you. No, it wasn't annoying for me. I felt for you because I could tell you were just in a... It's a lot of tough situations. When it comes to your home, where you actually go to... When you can't go home to escape a tough situation, that sucks. Yeah, it does suck. And Vanderpump told me that your home was your sanctuary, and I do think there's some truth to that.
4:50Mary, my home has always been my sanctuary. And talk to my parents. Talk to my parents. They allowed us, there was like, you know what human rights? Like we, privacy was the one that was, it was like sacred in our home. We're very lucky. We had like a middle class.
5:07Trixie Mattel:How many bathrooms you have? Two. Oh, me? In your home growing up. Oh, one and a half. Five people. We had one shower for five people. Yeah. It's intense. but I had for the for high school I mean I shared a room with my brother most of my life but then I had my own room for like three years sanctuary mama sanctuary parents would not walk in the door they would knock nobody would walk into anybody's door like it was like you respect their personal space and that was very very I think that's nice like there's a film called Freaky Friday with Lindsay Lohan and um Jamie Lee Kermis Jamie Lee Kermis thank you immediately for saying that.
5:46Trixie Mattel:And there's a part where she takes her door to punish her. I would never do that. Take a teenager's door. I'd move out. What do I want to watch my kid jerk it? I would take that door, go in the ocean and die like in the Titanic. In the Titanic. I'm really happy for you. Everything's turning around. I can't wait for you to see this bathroom. We have never been invited over. Well, because it's not done. But mama, I am so proud of this bathroom. It is very difficult to design stuff. I have no experience doing it. And I ate this bathroom up. And obviously, with the expert skill of these motherfucking workers, especially the tile guys, they yanked that shit right off.
6:22Yes. Yanked it. And the pressure, I don't know where she's coming from. Skin ripped off. I don't know. I got three different options. I got the waterfall, the thing, and then the hose. The pressure is out of control. She was never like that before. She stepped her pussy up.
6:40Trixie Mattel:She said, this bathroom is kind of, I'm going to give you all my... I want to give you all my by the way give it up for this amazing shirt oh yes it's a morphine tweet that says literally fuck Trixie Mattel it's Shades of Tempest fuck Trixie fuck Trixie you can get this on my website with the blessing of morphine I was like can I put your tweet on a shirt she said yeah and you get this all pink disco shirt too this is really fun I like this pink shirt and not as good as this but this is shut up so can I talk about we're about to endure yes shakes queer mama are you have you done your kegels and your emotional preparations I'll do you one better I got a voice note from who I got in touch with the person the challenge producer who thought of it the person the cunt responsible and the dicks that did this to me Todd Masterson no Todd that fucker hello Todd Todd yeah he's lovely Todd reached out because we had said this week that we were going to be doing this and Todd reached out and I you know I'm asking for voice notes and I am okay with people saying no.
7:40Trixie Mattel:But Todd said, hey, just watching the pod, did I ever tell you Shakespeare was my challenge? It was my bad, but great TV. He said 48 years later and people still talk about it. And I said, well, would you feel comfortable sending a voice note? We're trying to process the trauma. And they sent one. I haven't even heard it yet. So let's fucking hear it. Hi, long time listener, first time caller. So I was one of the challenge producers on season seven. Shakespeare is my fault. I guess, but like I didn't name it or write the scripts. They have a writing team that does all the words for stuff, but I pitched it so last minute.
8:16Like, you know, when you're pitching stuff like that in the very early stages of the process, we don't pitch every thought that comes into your brain. And then you let the executives put it all together. Like in those first meetings, you literally just spew out the dumbest panic thoughts. Like spaghetti wrestling are like, what if we do fear factor? and they have to eat spiders. Like it's so dumb and chaotic and you just pitch till you can't think anymore. You run out of ideas. But I pitched it as just doing Shakespeare set in the RuPaul-averse and then the producers decided on writing original scripts.
8:54Like I was going for a Baz Luhrmann thing and they went Saturday Night Live with it. But I think it turned out so funny because it was so bad. Like Pearl and Jasmine and even Violet were so bad in McBitch that they almost swung back into being good. I can't wait to talk about this. It all felt very Muppet-y. Pearl literally moved her body like a Muppet. When you watch it, it's so Muppets. I think it turned into this hilarious thing kind of by accident. I don't know about that. People always love to say that season seven was so bad directly to my face, which is weird. Thank you. But honestly, I think it's become the most iconic season ever.
9:36Has any other season produced so many mega stars? No. Like, think about it. Almost the entire cast of Seven is still booked and blessed and super famous. Boop. My pitch for the next All-Stars reboot is to bring back just the entire cast of Seven and do another season with you guys. I would do it in a heartbeat. Are you kidding me? I would do it. You know Ginger would do it. Oh, I absolutely would. Love you. Miss you. Bye. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
10:02Trixie Mattel:You know Ginger would do it. Of course you would. Mama. I'm not even saying, you know Ginger would do it. excuse me hold on a second could I say someone hold my wig because if I would do that so fast if I could get three more months of preparation than everybody else and about a hundred thousand more dollars than everybody else I'd walk into that fucking workroom insufferable can I be honest I would do it for not even that much money if it was actually season seven and it would be so fun I want the same challenges again like I just want to do it again like an obstacle course imagine if I bombed Glamazonia Airways again love that would be amazing love that would be incredible well we'd also I also think we should have the same elimination same lip sync like we should do it like a play that would be fabulous me and Pearl in the bottom like just do um we could do it in three days no untucked we just bam three episodes a day we'd have to have all the outfits made yeah I want the same outfits I want the same fucking outfit I'm gonna wear that old makeup my black wig Get my$35 black wig Would you guys gag for us to just reenact Season 7?
11:10Trixie Mattel:It would be like historical reenactment Oh my god All the confessionals are silhouettes We all do Like a CGI anti-aging I have a full head of hair It's the Polar Express We have to wear units Of course Like Jeff Bridges and Tron Snapchat filters Girl I would love to do season 7 just again That would be funny. That would be very funny. Also, we never got to wear white, remember? That's right. We had an all-white look. We had a white category. We never got to wear. Okay, let's get into it. So this is episode three. So we start off with Jasmine, tired-ass horse-faced violet, slim up-and-down pole body.
11:53Panties, bitch. Panties, bitch.
11:56Trixie Mattel:I also like that they're - Cover that ass up. This is the beginning of factions forming in this season. This season is young versus old, which is weird because fame's not that young. No. Fame is my age, essentially. And a lot of people in the old are not old. Right. So it's 21 or not 21. Yeah. That's really what the age gap is. It's more like... The old lady brigade is 33-year-olds. It's more like performers versus models. Well, obviously, then I'm in the right group because I was in the model group. I don't know about that. There was one clip of Jasmine going, all these young, skinny fashion girls, Fame, Violet, Trixie.
12:34Trixie Mattel:And I was watching it and I was like... I was like... The way of my clothes or my body, hair or makeup does not touch them. But me being grouped in, I said... Fierce, cunty. It's so funny. The old versus young thing is like a major theme this season that honestly in real time I did not feel. but I guess in the story room that maybe popped out. I never have any memories of old versus young. I didn't either because I got along with everybody. Me too. We're both very Switzerland. I didn't feel like, first of all, Violet and Fame and Pearl didn't claim me. They weren't like, that's our sister. Also, they didn't even like each other.
13:13Trixie Mattel:Violet didn't like anybody. Violet didn't like anybody. Pearl didn't like anybody. Fame was up her own ass. This is the beginning of truly exposing that there are some deeply unhappy individuals in this competition. I'm not saying they're unhappy in general. I'm just saying, I think Bob the Drag Queen is an example of somebody where competition brings out the best in them. I think the fames, the violets, me, some of us were not better in competition. I shrink, I receive, I underperform. Buckled. Yeah, I underperform. I'm not my best when it's competitive. Fame is kind of an anxiety ball. Violet is unable to make a friend.
13:54Unwilling. at this point unable unwilling can uh anti-social personality disorder completely because and by
14:00Trixie Mattel:the way i it took me years to get to a place with violet where i think we are friends and maybe one-sided but i think we are also even like even you could be complimenting her and she would just reject completely i worship at the feet of violet and i dream that she's my friend but i don't know if that will ever i don't think she is that check will ever cash you know dinner or once a year dinner. Why am I wearing a golfer hat and a pug print shirt? We don't know. Where did Jazz and Masters get a loaf of bread? That was a fun challenge. I like that mini challenge. It loosened us up. The mini challenge is RuPaul wants us to do soul train, but dress as grannies.
14:38Pearl looks amazing. She's giving Elaine stretch with Boniva.
14:41Trixie Mattel:There's some granny chasers up in here. We're all doing a soul train as old people. I love my makeup. You look great. Look so good. I love this makeup. Everybody look great. I loved everybody. Old lady drag is fun. Fun. Super, super fun. And then Kennedy who's perfected the old lady walk. Well, that's her walk. She walks both hips and slips out of her. This food nasty. Jasmine has a loaf of bread. Groceries. Do you know why she had a loaf of bread? She brought her own food to Drag Race. She brought her own sauces. She told me, the girls from LA told me that when you go to Drag Race, the food is bad.
15:15Trixie Mattel:So Jasmine brought fucking groceries. Jasmine said, oh, Drag Race called. I got to stop by Trader Joe's. Mary, you know I'm bringing my air fryer to this season seven recap. I'm bringing that little ninja. Girl, that ninja fucks me up. Girl, get that ninja. I'm going to put some loose change in there. Eat it up. So we're doing, soul training was really fun. Loose change. I love these type of mini challenges that are pointless and crazy. It's just fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like. It makes me think of an all-stars. Remember when you guys did the golfing? Yes. Well, you know what? It was funny though.
15:46That sucked because we were so bad. It took forever. You know what was the best one? The telenovela one in season five where they had to cry. That was so weird and fun. I wish we got to do that.
15:59Trixie Mattel:You would do a good job at crying. Yeah, I would. Would you explain your Soul Train look? Because I forgot about how good your Soul Train look is. This wig. I had this wig. Okay, this wig is like, oh. This wig is from Dorothy's Boutique. It is a center part. It's actually quite expensive. it is a wet look it was expensive excuse me what's that face it's um it is a long two-tone swamp water for most of it and then a good like two inches of blonde and it's hard wet perm noodle perm it's ramen essentially it's a swamp water blonde ramen it is so it's so disgusting do you remember that you super glued the cigarette to your lip I don't actually that's fierce that's fierce at the time I said how'd you get the cigarette and you said you super glued it to your lip that's so fierce I love it but um fun fact which by the way you still live like that for a long time I know cigarette glued to the lip but that wig is from my an alter ego show at Perestroika where I was a character called Bumpy Bullet Bumpy Bullet isn't that great let's take a break let's take a break okay
17:14When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to sleeping bear dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial.
17:56Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives, and if I'm traveling with friends, even better.
18:30We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. be. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy.
19:16I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks.
19:49all with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives. And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse.
20:25However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak.
21:03After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives.
21:43And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through airbnb i loved your soul train look it was the
22:09Trixie Mattel:cigarette the glasses also yeah it was just it was fun that whole thing was so fun i loved that and you know rupaul loves like stupid old lady shitty costumes yeah i mean look at her instagram look at her tiktok the annie you gotta look at her instagram now because or not now whenever this airs like her annie running barefoot in a parking lot for about a half a mile oh yeah it's so good it's really fierce it's so good um i okay so then we get into the challenge shakes square you well it gets picked last again love it even though she is so good in the challenges doesn't matter because what's happening behind the scenes and when the cameras aren't necessarily rolling is she continues to be an a surly irascible bitch and she's so talented but like friends she has none like she is not yet close to anyone she's she's it's giving it's giving a BP.
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23:05But me watching...
23:07Trixie Mattel:Now that it's been 10 years, me watching, I'm like... Borderline personality disorder. Oh. Now watching all these years later, I'm watching going, she's one of the strongest competitors. Why? It's weird that she gets picked last because she's a good drag queen. She's 21. I think she auditioned at 20. You know what I was doing at 21? I was sucking my mom's titties, breastfeeding. Yeah.
23:35Trixie Mattel:so um then we get to the two this is shakespeare it's the it's like the bitch who stole no it's it's romeo and it's romey and juliet and mcbitch mcbitch i receive max is my team leader which is great she's been british for days this is kind of perfect right she's been british since she got here woke up British so she picks Catherine Hepburn she's got a transatlantic thing going on oh this challenge is right up my alley I'm going to let the girls know I've got it out for them because I'm an actress fetch my golf clubs here we go so I'm in we're in separate groups I'm in Romy and Juliet Julietta little did I know I was going to be in the incredible stellar group compared to the other and you did good I did okay I had the part you don't want in a group which is the narrator.
24:27Trixie Mattel:It's a dumb part. It's yeah. Can I tell you my aspirations at the beginning of this competition? I think I was so delusional that I thought I'd be there the whole time. So I thought it's okay to just pick an easy part at the beginning. I'm not going home. Like I was just like, give me the easy part. It was four lines. Wow. I was clinging from episode three on. I was like fingernails on the ledge. Obviously I was delusional because I go home next. But I was still at a point where I was like, yeah, give me the part with two lines. I don't care if I blend in. because to me, I'm going to win the next five challenges.
24:57I just thought there were
24:58Trixie Mattel:so many people there that I was like, I won't mess up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I won't win. Yeah. So I just did it and I can't explain that outfit. Max borrowed me that gray wig. Oh, you looked kind of bad. Yeah, it's a blue It's very like Renaissance. But don't you remember this? We were told in our list of runway looks to bring a Shakespeare look. I thought it was going to be a runway. We all brought runway looks. So then it comes out to be a shitty comedy challenge. And Mary, me and Violet's outfits turned out to be reveals. It's not a reveal outfit. Yeah. Like my reveal was so clunky and labored because it wasn't a reveal outfit.
25:38Right. Like it was unfair. Anyways.
25:40Trixie Mattel:So here's what I'll tell you that I remember. I remember my group doing their thing. I don't remember anything about doing this. This is what I remember about Shakespeare because again, I didn't get to watch you guys. So your trauma is not my trauma. Your tea is valid. Your tea is valid. I remember Pearl walking in. I think our group went first. Yeah. Pearl walked in after hers. And I go, how was it? And she takes off her wig and she goes, I'm lip syncing. She goes, I know I am. Fuck. I know I am. And I went, no. Like, there's no way you guys were that bad. I remember thinking, there's no way you guys were that bad.
26:16And then when I watched it, why don't you tell me what it was like doing it? So here's the thing about scripted challenges, I think in general. and in this case in particular, especially, they are rotten. Performed by, let's say, fucking Jane Krakowski couldn't make this funny. Do you know what I mean? Like Tina Fey couldn't make this funny. Like it's just not funny. It's bad. Yeah. Charlie Hydes could make it funny. Yeah. Like nobody could make this funny. Meg Stalter couldn't even fucking wear this material. She could. She would ad lib. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's just bad. So there's that.
26:56Plus the fact that we're not good actors, none of us. And Kennedy is a horrible team leader. We just go off on our own. Excuse me.
27:06Trixie Mattel:First, there's two parts, and then they switch it. They switch, yeah. Because Violet is going to play Vesquisha. Vesquisha? Vesquisha. And Kennedy turns to Violet and says, I need you to be more ghetto. I mean, this is, this is TV from a long time ago. So, so what you saw, the awkwardness, the terror, it was worse. It was so much worse than what you see on television. Cause of course this is over the course of like 45 minutes. Yes. And this is, it is a train wreck. I am mid to middling forgettable. I'm absolutely forgettable. But you know what I'm thinking? Thank God I'm not going home. Right.
27:47Cause everybody sucks so bad. And I'm like C, like a level. But you're the best in the group. But forgettable. Right. I mean, we are all bad. It's just varying shades. It's from forgettable to preposterous. Yeah.
28:03Trixie Mattel:But that's how I was too. Like in my group, I think Max and I believe it's Max and Ginger in love. Right? Max and Ginger in love. And it's Romeo and Juliet. They die. Yeah. Whatever. And my note watching this was I'm just not in it. Which means I either did nothing wrong and nothing good. Mary, same. I'm a set piece. I'm not even in it. Girl, I'm not even in it. I think I maybe do one line and I die. And I struggle to take off my skirt. They pan away from me. Yeah. It's bad. It was very forgettable. But girl, poor Jasmine. This was hard. This was like, because it was just... Poor Jasmine. Yeah, it was like, it was never like asking a person to rock climb with no legs.
28:51Like, it was like, it's not going to happen.
28:53Trixie Mattel:Well, first of all, they're not funny lines. But second of all, they're written to pretend to be heightened language, which syntax-wise is all mixed up. It's not a normal sentence. No, and also, it's not great. It's like they don't try to do iambic pentameter or whatever the fuck. It's like it could have been more Shakespearean. Because even Michelle explains the line, Laquisha Kiana, and it still doesn't sound good. Correct. Right. Do you know what I mean? No, totally. And then in my group, you have Jaden, who hits a wall. She's messing up the words and Jaden starts crying. And you guys, if you guys could meet Jaden do her fears.
29:23Oh, she's the most lovely person in the world.
29:25Trixie Mattel:That's one of the maybe last person you want to see cry because she is too, like too fucking nice. Yeah. She is so sweet and she starts crying and I remember her going, I just want this so bad. And then Max, a good team leader, bends down because Max is six feet taller than her. Max gets on her knees, gets eye level and goes, it's okay. You're going to get it. You're doing great. and then she does do great. It's fierce. Like, Max actually leads her to not being the bottom. He was so cunty in that episode. I mean, she really gets in there and helps her team. And on your team, there really was no shepherding.
30:00No. Kennedy was like, go figure it out.
30:04Trixie Mattel:And by the way, Kennedy can read the phone book and make it funny. Kennedy couldn't make that funny. Nobody did any. I thought Pearl - Kennedy had glasses on. I thought Pearl was amazing. Like, I, she was unintentionally hilarious. Her hitting her head. She bumped it. She bumped and then ducks and looks at it. Cheerleader tryouts. She was like, hey, cheerleader tryouts happened today. Yeah. It's just wild. It was her outfit. Like, I know she was supposed to be kind of a knight. Female gym teacher. Perhaps a little lesbian. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought the suggestion was that it was a, a lot of the drag race comedy challenges have one female character who's like, hey, you know, the Leah Delaria of the skit and I thought she was trying to do that but really all there was was a unibrow there's a unibrow she was like tragic
31:02I thought she was funny and I thought she was funny I mean it was bad but at least it was funny bad it was not comfortable it was really really bad to have to endure can we play a part of it
31:16Here in Tuckahoe It's the season of the witch But none are as shady As lady make bitch Friends, drag queens Hunty men
31:28Trixie Mattel:I got something to say Cheerleading tryouts Are happening today But honestly Now I love it I think Pearl's great in this I really do Now I love it Like it's not good But it is good And this is Jasmine Watch out, sisters. I'm the real prima donna. Hair cheerleader is going to be me, Laquisha Kiana. That's right. Girl, not on tonight. This is so not your gig. I'm Lady McBitch, and you're a pig in a wig. Woof. Hey, Hogwarts rejects, what's your prediction? If I'm not hair cheerleader, it's truly fan fiction. The spirits have spoken. I'm not even in it. No, no. I think you eventually, oh, here's another Pearl part.
32:09Trixie Mattel:We got to just see Pearl. Yeah. Your engines may the best Tuckahoe win
32:17Trixie Mattel:Your reveal was just so bad It looked like someone pantsed you Clunky Cause it's not a reveal outfit And the outfit underneath it is not better It's just the outfit Oh sisters I'm stressed If I don't win I may die Try this it'll help That is really something I have one shitty line that is so forgettable and then I drop dead. Yeah. Talk about disappearing into the world.
32:48Trixie Mattel:In a world of charisma, uniqueness, talent, and nerve, two rival drag houses gonna get on they swerve. Damn. What do you do? That did not sound like you at the beginning whatsoever. I don't think much of it sounded like me. Damn shit. Fuck. Wow. Look, we shook. I mean, Now, of course, it is edited to enhance the awkwardness. They include dead air. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like they include the dead air in the final edit, which of course you wouldn't be doing if you were trying to make it look as good as possible. Get yourself banished if you hang with this flu. What did you say? Apologize, trolls.
33:31Calm down, Beyonce, or I'll clock those back.
33:35Trixie Mattel:Everything about this is bad. Everything about this is bad. It's bad. It is like, you know, RuPaul was like, she literally goes like this. This is where Michelle says, cue the snipers. She wants you all to be shot. Yeah. She's like, you're so bad. You should be dead. It's assassinated. Completely assassinated. The set was whatever. The script wasn't funny. The script was so bad. The Shakespeare rhythm of it made the jokes not permissible to the ear. I didn't get it at all. No. And also it's all delivered at a low, like it's done that. Like there was no rhythm. There was just like, it just, it was just really fucking bad.
34:13It was really fucking bad. It was really fucking bad. And then it was, thank God. I think that the success of this episode is that it was so bad. Otherwise, imagine if we just killed it, it would have been so fucking boring.
34:26Trixie Mattel:It's really bad. Cause it would not have been funny. It's not funny now. I mean, it's really tough. It's no, you know what I mean though? Even if it was performed well, All that material would not be funny. Yeah, it's dramatic. There'd be no drama there. The episode would be flat as hell. Did you know, you knew you guys were in the bottom without seeing ours? It was, I mean, RuPaul was saying, in the seven seasons of doing this show, I have never seen a car crash like this. I think it's the challenge. She said more like that. She was like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
35:01It was like, not exactly. encouraging words. But like Kennedy, for example,
35:08Trixie Mattel:Kennedy excels any time there's a character. So you're telling me that it's Kennedy's fault this isn't funny? I don't believe it. You know? No, team leader. It's Ginger's fault this isn't funny? Team leader. I guess. Oh yeah, because she lip syncs. No leadership. Kennedy has to lip sync in this. Against Jasmine, yeah. No leadership. And I think it was... Yeah, it's tough. I think that's unfair. I don't know. Well, her bearded runway was fucking awful. Do you remember It was the beard. Oh, yeah. It was the worst beard. Well, Jasmine and her had the... To be honest, I think we're going to get to the runways.
35:41Trixie Mattel:Can we go to the runways? Okay, so this was like, again, this is all edited. This was 45 minutes of this. Right. So my heart broke for Jasmine because it was painful. Right. Like she just couldn't get it. And trying like 10, 12 times. Yeah. And like when you can't get it, I don't know if you have ever experienced that. We're like... Oh, it gets worse. It gets worse. You need to take a break. Yeah. And you need to take 15 minutes or something. I think any creative person will tell you sometimes just taking a lap, you come back and you can do it. Yes, absolutely. I will go outside, have a cigarette, and then like take a beat, and then you can just kind of start again.
36:23Trixie Mattel:Yes. That was not – you were on the spot. Smoking was a huge part of season seven of Drag Race. So I came into Drag Race a non-smoker. I had to quit for a year and a half. immediately started smoking because of the stress. Well, Ginger can throw him back. Yeah. At the time? It was Ginger. I went out with her probably the second day. I was like, Mary, I got to do this. And thank God because me, Pearl, and Ginger became friends that way.
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39:10I was shocked with this runway because the bearded runway I remembered being better. Whoa. It is a dog show for the most part. Let's get into it. I think there are some strong ones. I love pearls the red beard was so cool super creative and also on the fly she came up with that the morning she came in
39:28Trixie Mattel:and cut the little red pieces up and glued it on her face that day she had no bearded runway planned also we had we had was it Kat Dennings and Mel B? yes yeah Mel B now this is something I'm pretty and I've said this a million times I know but I will always cherish hearing this from Mel B to Violet your hair and your beard they're just ugly I fucking ate. They didn't like her. I loved Violet's runway. I thought it was exquisite. Violet had this really cool going to homecoming. It was a Dior classic 50s silhouette. Gorgeous. And I loved her beard. She looked so pretty. Mel B was not eating any of it.
40:05Trixie Mattel:I don't think Violet misses on the runway this whole season. Not once.
40:11I don't think so. What was the previous one? What was the glamazonian one?
40:18Trixie Mattel:oh it was the bodysuit with the suitcase with bullets I guess I didn't like that that was her miss it also looked like french fries it did yeah it was not a good one I wish it was that'd be fierce I don't turn up for guns but I turn up for french fries oh I have again Rue's fucking hair and makeup literal perfection yeah it's very impressive what a great outfit to scream at the girls yeah I don't know about the the cape and the green the parachuting fabric I kind of like it it was interesting it wasn't a huge win for me but that top I mean that white the ponytail is so fierce yeah she screamed at us yeah so before we get to the screaming I also want to talk about your runway was Abraham Lincoln I thought I killed that I thought I killed it I mean it could have been it would have been nice if it was a ladies jacket in a little more shape but Mel B said your literal perfection to me I liked it.
41:18Yeah. I thought it was like clever and fun. Nice concept. Yeah. I had a, Mary, I had a concept. Yeah. You killed it. Half of the people. Don Wilkes Booth killed it. Half of the people just went in a shitty gown in a bad beard. That really disturbed me. So I had, I take super mega umbrage with gingers. I couldn't believe how ugly her dress was. It was a shitty corset with not even, not singed, with nasty plastic giant kids stones over an ugly fucking gown.
41:45Trixie Mattel:With the beard. You know what it gives? the This Is Me Pride performance. Oh, I don't even know what that is. The Bearded Queen from Greatest Showman. The girls love to do that for Pride. I hated that. Who else did I hate? Oh, I loved Miss Fames, the Harlequins. See, I actually, so this is what I hated it. Middle part, Red Waves. I hated it. I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was one of her real, I hated it for some reason. Well. I love that we'd have different opinions on that. But no, can I tell you, one of the things I've realized watching this as a viewer is what makes Drag Race fun is that people, you sit at a table you all watch it everybody can have completely different opinions yeah I love that too but not in a way where people scream at each other no it's just like really you like that okay ugly you know yeah but the big like I mean do you remember like the dress that's gonna cure AIDS that's gonna solve hunger oh this was Jasmine being like I'm about to let RuPaul see the best dress that's ever been worn on the stage of RuPaul's Drag Race and it was and then it was a nice dress it was a dress it kept building she kept talking about she's like I wouldn't be surprised if I get saved because of this dress I wouldn't be surprised if I cure AIDS because of this dress.
42:45I was like,
42:47Trixie Mattel:no, it was wild. The thing is, if she had just worn it, they would have been like, this is a really nice dress. But she treated it like, well, it's the Hope Diamond. Yeah, it's Princess, the revenge dress with the Hope Diamond plus the Shroud of Turin. Not to mention, it also wasn't, Jasmine, love you, but the charcoal eyeshadow on the face instead of hair. I'm 37 years old. I know my skin. This was a tough moment for me to listen to on the runway. She, her explanation for her underperformance with the, it was so tough to listen to. She's like, I'm not putting nothing on my, like, I was like, oh shit.
43:21It's like you're on drag race.
43:23Trixie Mattel:See, I, to this point have never been up for critiques. So I've never heard any of this. I'm only an untucked. So you have never had your feet hurt like that? Not until I go home. Oh my God. Mary, I'm telling you up and at this point, I have only worn super fucking uncomfortable shoes. I'm talking Bordello pleasers and giant stilette like five inch heels. So hammer time on the feet. Yeah. And it takes I was shocked at how little they should. It takes nine to ten hours to do a critique. Seriously. Every judge gets about five minutes. Yeah. For each person. For each person. And in the edit, Mary, the edit we get about 45 seconds max.
44:07Maybe 30 seconds.
44:08Trixie Mattel:Yeah. Seriously. But if it's RuPaul and four judges RuPaul says nothing. RuPaul says nothing. And it goes one by one and they each take five minutes. And then if there's six of you, that's five minutes times five is 25. Times six is hours. So you're in untucked for hours before the group even comes back. And sometimes you go back to, like if it's lunch, you break for lunch, then you come back for the rest of the critiques. The critiques are interminable. So sometimes you're breaking for lunch and you're not allowed to speak. So you're in your drag outfit eating lunch and you can't even debrief on who's going home.
44:43Trixie Mattel:You're just sitting eating. Yeah. Quiet. And if you speak, you are silenced. Yeah. When we went back for All Stars 2 in the second episode, RuPaul let us take off our shoes if we weren't on camera. And that was like such a game changer. It was such a game changer. It was, it's torture. It's torture. But if you want to take your shoes off, you do have to pull out your cock. And that's something that is non-negotiable. That's a rule that I added on All Stars 3. I said, everyone, whip it out. Take out your cock. Yep, whip it your cock. It's cock time. Bring it to the cock room and the pussy room.
45:15Trixie Mattel:Okay, so let's go down the runways. I know this is going to be bored for people just listening in their cars, but... Well, what's the rose and the thorn? I loved pearls. Yeah. I thought Max looked sensational. Oh, my God. Sensational. So cool. Max is in this sword fighting... What do you call that? Swashbuckler. Yeah. Spensing. With a beard that I... It's a mustache like warrior. It's like doll, like kind of like a crazy dolly mustache. And the eyeshadow is just black shadow and a circular on the eye. It's so cool. Max really eats the girls up. The only thing though, at this point, which I, you know, still to this day, I, let's not do bits on the runway.
45:56Let's just walk the runway like fashion models. I know I can't do it, but I can try. I know. I was like, let's stop. Let's just walk. Let's walk, turn and walk. You didn't like the gun when you, when you blew your brain out? No. I'm like, why do we, it's understood. Right. We know what happened to him. Right. Also, he didn't kill himself. Doesn't make no sense. That's a good point.
46:17Trixie Mattel:You should have asked me to come out and shoot you. And I would have, probably with a real gun. Imagine if I had orchestrated Ellen, the PA. I'd be like, can you? Can you gun me down? Love. Love. And she takes a, hucks a tomato at my face. No, but I, just walk. Just sissy that walk. Right. Did you like my Jesus? Not really. Sadly, I think it was one of my better looks. It was. I really loved that it was. There was a point of view. At least it was a story. There was a story. It wasn't just like, here's my shittiest dress in the grossest beard. How did you come up with Abraham Lincoln? Abraham Lincoln.
46:54Is that how you thought of it? Yeah. I was like, what? Who has a beard?
46:59Trixie Mattel:Abraham Lincoln. I was going to do. That was I was going to do a sexy Santa. I was like, fuck that. Nobody would have loved that. Nobody did sexy Santa, though. I was shocked. I would have loved that. Red velvet cunty gown? Are you fucking kidding me? With a sack? Like a jeweled sack or something? And it would have stood out in a good way. No shit. But I was worried that everybody was going to do that. Yeah. No, I'm not kidding. I was like, sexy Santa. I'm surprised that was the only biblical figure, to be honest. I thought there'd be another Jesus. It was a startling lack of imagination in that runway.
47:30Trixie Mattel:Because me, you, me, you, Max, Pearl, just maybe a few. I have a trauma memory of this gold gown I had on for that because the zipper broke. Amazon. And while in drag before the runway, I installed a white zipper. And then once I zipped it up, took the gold spray can and sprayed the zipper gold. That's fierce. But it was in the full, in the beard with the Jesus hair on. That is a lot of hair. It was a lot of hair. It was scary. Candy Ho's look was insane. How did she have the cube on her head? She had a cube, a yakky cube, and then a Fu Manchu long, long, long. It was very strange and interesting.
48:09I liked it. I kind of liked it too, but I'm like wondering if it borders on yellow face. I'm not sure. Because it was kind of, they straight up said, Fu Manchu or whatever. And I'm like, guys, she's Latin.
48:22Trixie Mattel:Right. I don't know. She's Puerto Rican. Yeah. I thought she looked cool though. Yeah. I think really Kennedy's beard was just. Just awful. And the short wig. And also it was like. Puby. It was puby. Pubalina. Ginger Kennedy unforgivable bad runways. My other memory of this is when we had to stop and break for lunch, eating lunch with that beard on. The beard, I know. I had to take hair clips and clip the beard away from my face and try to eat, like, I don't know, some fucking tofu chicken, like... Yeah. How was the food, do you remember? I thought it was adequate. I just remember Kennedy walking around and she would look at the food and say, this food nasty, and then she would say that she went to Boston Market.
49:01Trixie Mattel:But we got it. We got it. And it was those... Nobody tells you that. If you go to Drag Race, just say that you won't eat it and they'll get you whatever you want. I remember her spiel. I'm 37 years old. I don't glue a shit on my face. My skin. I know my skin or whatever, whatever. And then RuPaul would not have it. She really yelled at us and it was scary. We got to play the clip. It was really scary. Or should I play it? It was actually scary. Well, we're going to play a clip of RuPaul screaming at you. And I'm sure this is just a clip of it. You know, FYI for all of you girls up there. I don't want to hear any goddamn excuses.
49:33Be prepared. We didn't have time to re-rehearse. Make it work. Make it work. Fucking make it happen. I don't want to hear any goddamn excuses anymore. And then when she, like, it was chilling. What do you think about that? I think it's, um... Can I be honest?
49:53Trixie Mattel:I agree with her. Can I be honest? Yeah. There's not enough time. We're being asked to do so much in such a small amount of time. What do you want? Mary, when we get to, we haven't got to tan with you. Did we do tan with you? No, it's next. that day was ridiculous ridiculous it was asking too fucking much we had to come up with here's the challenge and a couple hours later you're recording it we had to rewrite a song we had to record the fucking lyrics we had to we had to develop with ourselves choreography and then learn it and then get in drag and then get in drag and it was like in one day I was like fuck out of here yeah it was too much it was like fuck out of here you were setting us up for failure and surely enough they all sucked but obviously what it seems like I was not on the main stage with you guys what it seems like is RuPaul is saying that you guys kind of reflect this is my show the quality of my show matters to me and you guys did not well then why don't you hire a union writer bitch I feel like she was saying that you guys didn't meet like the base level of course I agree with her I think she's got a point I also think it's just too short of time it's too short of time and also mama come up with some fierce lines and we'll try to we'll learn those and also it's hard on Drag Race 2 and like a sewing thing and someone goes, it looks unfinished.
51:09Trixie Mattel:You want to look right at them and go, I started it this morning. Yeah. No shit. I sewed it this morning. Do you know how like you know how actual outfits take to like a week? Takes me days. When I was sewing for myself, I would take one day to just cut fabric and then the next day I would sew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then maybe the last day I'd do finishing. Yeah, you could do, I mean, literally one day you could be like sketching, like sketching, sketching, sketching, design, design cutting the next day you do construction and then you do like alterations yeah three days it was tough so i have very little while talking about cancer and your dead mom and um fighting with the girls and doing your makeup and yeah so i remember the bottom being jasmine which i guess i knew i mean the beard it was she gave up and yeah and kennedy which was sad because they were instant friends.
52:03Trixie Mattel:Yeah. They had never met till Drag Race, but they were like glued at the hip. Yeah. Which they do become glued at the hip during the... Hello. I forgot about that. Loved that challenge. And it was hard to watch them lip sync. The song is Kylie Minogue I Was Gonna Cancel, A Complete Bop. I love that song. Go! Go! When I saw Kylie and Sydney, I hoped she would sing it and she didn't. She didn't now. Because it's not really... It's not one of her hits. What's your favorite Kylie Minogue song? It's Two Hearts. Two Hearts. the lyrics really make no sense but it's such a cunty song I love it do you know the one?
52:36Trixie Mattel:of course I'm the one love that shit I also love the um what is it I don't know she's got a bunch of good ones the locomotion the um out of my way get out of my way yeah I love her yeah it's good I remember when I saw her in Sydney she said um she's like I'll walk to travel and she's bogan all of a sudden she was like I think I sit and try and is Mike going to stop in Sydney the lock of Martian and people lost their shit yeah yeah yeah she was like this is my first single that's a cover and she sang it and people loved it five foot in a whisper she is tiny so this is when we say goodbye to Jasmine I'm so bummed about it it was a tough lip sync because I knew Kennedy wasn't going anywhere she gave up with the beard I did like that move that Jasmine does where she crouches jumps it's the the um like cossack thing the leg string the cossack it's fucking their knees the knees the knees also um the uh oh I just the train I thought yeah um I just lost I'm sorry no it was a good thing too um oh Laganja don't throw it don't throw it away at the end don't throw it away at the end don't throw it away at the end and like it's like I don't know I just the beard to be honest the energy the energy being there was that she gave up she gave up and she started packing oh I forgot about that she started packing before the lip sync she started packing the morning of elimination yeah she literally just hung it up which was so tough like selfishly because I wanted her to be there I liked she's so fun it sucked when she left it's weird for some of us who've auditioned some people fucking seven times at that point it's weird to get there and pack up and be willing to go on the third episode.
54:32Trixie Mattel:I know. And also like two people have gone home who wouldn't have packed early. They would have fought to the end. So that was kind of hard. And then we left with like a big void, a huge energy left with a bunch of drips left in that work room. Yeah. That's kind of honestly one of the things I remember the most about season seven was a big vacant. I didn't feel like I had a bestie. No. I don't think I not even you. I mean, at this point, you have never seen you and I talk on camera. At this point, me and Ginger are probably pretty close. Me and Ginger and then Pearl. Well, the smoking. The smoking.
55:08Mama, you need to smoke on Drag Race. That's my, if any girls out there you get on Drag Race, you need to smoke them cigarettes. The X program, hold on. You need to.
55:18Trixie Mattel:Hey girl, and me sitting in, and all the fun people are smoking and I'm sitting next to Violet on a couch going, so where are you from? Yeah. No shit. Girl, it like, She's like, don't talk to me. All Stars, me, Detox, and Roxy cutting up out there. We're the odd trio. None of us would hang out together, really. But we just, it's all wonderful. It's a wonderful unifying activity that you should not do. The X program. The X program. Well, you could go outside and blow bubbles. Yes. It's like, also, why do smokers get to smoke? Can I say that was one of my issues when we stayed at the lovely Beverly Galland Hotel was I don't smoke.
55:50Trixie Mattel:Why don't I get to leave my room? Go! So I started putting a note under there that said I need a smoke break. and I just go outside because I'd be like, can I breathe? Yeah, do it. Do candy cigarettes. I'm not joking. Candy Ho. What about that name? What about Candy Ho? You know what I like about it? It's straightforward. Candy Ho. Candy Ho. She has a weird, weird, weird bite that I can't, I should have put down verbatim. It's like, I'm so sweet. I'm going to get in your mouth and you're going to taste how sweet. I was like, what? So fierce. She also, I think at this point, she has said, right on my alley.
56:26Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that's the thing. It's like, oh, it's a flood. It's like sequenced dress. It's a sequenced dress moment.
56:33Trixie Mattel:It's sweet. It's endearing when someone says the wrong thing without knowing it. It's sweet. Yeah, and also, like, if maybe they are. English is their first language. Yeah. Also, Candy was from Puerto Rico, which I did a cruise after Drag Race that lifted off in Puerto Rico. I've never been. I didn't realize how far away it was. I didn't realize how remote it was. Only after Drag Race did I realize that Candy came from so much further away than any of us. Spoiler alert, when Candy does go home, there's a part where we all come back. Candy stayed in her hotel room for, I think, two weeks waiting to come back on Drag Race because they were like, we're not flying you back to Puerto Rico.
57:11Trixie Mattel:Whereas I got to go home to Wisconsin for a week. That's unethical. I went out to dinner. I had sex with my boyfriend. I was chilling. That's shitty. I know. Sorry. that's like there is some stuff we don't really need to get into it but like it's like the the the the baggage fees on the way home i was like y 'all are really fucking cheap sorry so i just didn't have the money i didn't either i did not either it's like but i just to be fair i'd complain about it now i'd be like four hundred dollars uh mama yeah i would have known to complain about it yeah yeah yeah well we would they wouldn't it would not have been a shock yeah yeah it's a little like on a normal season when you want to go pee they say 10-1 oh yeah on an all-star season you're like is somebody gonna take me to pee the entitlement these girls come back real thin with huge lips and they start bossing PAs around torturing those fucking PAs we didn't talk about the PAs fucking Katie and Ellen Katie and Ellen I'm sure they're not listening no they're not listening but they're probably happy they don't have to fucking hear us anymore they're probably working for a real fierce company Katie and Ellen were such angels and Miss Fame terrorized them she did with Motormouth Maybell She could never, she would never shut up.
58:21Trixie Mattel:Do you also remember that Miss Fame was absolutely the last one to get ready every single time? She was, she was, she and Max were, Fame and Max were always, and then on All Stars, it was Chandra. It was up to the hilt every day. It was Alyssa. She was like, baby, get that shoe, get that shoe, get that shoe. Like it was, because you know Alyssa has like three assistants like on the road and nobody was, I mean, to her credit, she was electrifyingly entertaining. but you know so funny fame the how many episodes of not getting the how's your head joke how many well that's coming because it hasn't started yet but that comes it's the next few episodes do you think it's like what do you think you think that's a very I didn't know it Mary I didn't either I didn't know it I didn't either I've seen Elvira I've seen the movie but it was like 15 years ago well I mean it's also about age like I heard that I hear things.
59:17Trixie Mattel:I heard that some of these like young drag queens don't know who Cher is. And RuPaul, imagine telling RuPaul, you don't know who Cher is. Do you just get slapped? I know. RuPaul just takes you outside, lays you down in the parking lot, backs over you a few times with the forerunner. So you want to learn about parallel parking? Yeah. Blaring turn back time. I just fucking runs the kids over. So you need to change a tire. Yeah. But RuPaul is also twice these people's age. Yes. And extremely culturally literate. RuPaul loves shit from older than what she is. Yes. She's very culturally literate. She's extremely pop culturally literate.
59:53So RuPaul was like.
59:54Trixie Mattel:She's rain man with music. RuPaul's like, Georgis, you don't know Marlena Dietrich? Yeah. You don't know about Sheena Easton's B-Sides from 87? Like, what is wrong with you? Like, come on. You know? Can I tell it to my heart? Tell it to my heart. Like, who the fuck knows that song? Taylor Dane? I don't think Taylor Dane knows it either. She's like, I bet when Taylor Dane is at concert, she's like, tell it to my heart. You don't know Samantha Fox? She said, tell it to my car, baby. I don't know the words in the car. We're my background singers. It's going to be a very, very, very hot. Well, shout out to Jasmine, who is a working drag queen.
1:00:31Trixie Mattel:I mean, I have this graphic saved on my phone. If you want to know what type of girl Jasmine is, the year after Drag Race, she hosted a 41st birthday for herself where she just invited any fans. and she was in drag at Olive Garden and she got a big table and any fans that showed up could eat with her. Fucking A. That is the queen of a queen. She's a real bitch. She's so fun. I will text her. She always responds to me. I'll send, I'll call her. I love that bitch. And over the years when I've invited her to do things, she's open for me. If I'm doing like a skit, she'll come be in the video. She's just very cool.
1:01:03Trixie Mattel:But she will be stoned. That's fine. The amount of times do you, she has probably makes up at least 45 % of my go-to, if I want to kill myself, I put this YouTube video on to like flip the script in my brain. The amount of times I've looked at, I've turned on Guadalupe McGillicuddy, the cucumber dicks. The cucumber dicks. And I, you know, everything. You don't taste that? The shit in your mouth. It's like so often that she, I probably owe her a lot of money. You know what I mean? She's fantastic. Well, thank you guys for the third episode. Let us know how this is going. Yeah, and too late because we were doing a next episode.
1:01:40Trixie Mattel:We're three episodes in. Next week we have episode four. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. I want a tan tan. Oh, when Miss Fame says, I'm going to touch your cock. It's wild. I want to kill myself. It's wild. I had a lot. Let's talk about it next week. I watched it to get ready. Yeah. It's just crazy to watch. It is crazy. Everything about watching this is fucking crazy. I thought we did. I thought comparatively we kind of slayed. The other ones were rotten. Well, next week is going to be I, I, I, I spoof. There it is. Can I be honest? I love season seven as a cast. I'm waiting for a challenge. I like, I know we're in episode three.
1:02:17Trixie Mattel:Now it's not going to happen until conjoined twins. Honestly. Yeah. It's snatch game. Well, snatch game is great for a good cause Pearl is so funny. Pearl and Kennedy are amazing. Kennedy is amazing. And then that's, you know, well, you're going to have to lead the ones. Cause I'm, I'm gone for a while. So you're going to have to really lead it. I have to show up to work. Cause the episodes that are coming, I'm watching it, not in it. Oh, my only knowledge of it is the show. Right, right, right. Oh, good. You're going to have to come hard. You're going to have to drive the bus. Okay. All right.
1:02:47Trixie Mattel:Bye.
1:03:10Welcome to Only Child with me, your host, Bob the Drag Queen, a multi-award winning comedian, drag icon, trader, New York Times bestselling author, and incredibly humble person. This is my first solo podcast that I'm doing without my annoying little sister. Every week I sit down with friends, future friends, and people I just met, comedians, drag queens, reality TV stars, Broadway actors, and many, many more people. Every episode ends with a very important Bob-coded question. what's the hell you're willing to die on today? We're going to get real, but I promise we'll also make you laugh. So let's get into it.
1:03:48Are you a lifelong learner with a never-ending hunger for trivia? Well, you might like our podcast, The Quizards Pit. Hi, I'm Shane Madej. And I'm Matt Riau.
1:03:56Trixie Mattel:Oh, and we love learning. And we love cracking wise and having a laugh. But what we have to tell you is very serious. Every single week, we get sucked into a dungeon by an evil space wizard named The Quizard. and we can't leave until we each give three of the most interesting and obscure facts we can find on whatever topic he asks. Sure, we get abducted against our will, ripped away from our families and lives as we know them, but we have a good time and we get to learn and we get to teach. And once we give the quizard enough facts, he sends us home. Big whoop. If that sounds fun to you, then why wouldn't it?
1:04:26Then why not get sucked up with us into the quizard's pit every single Monday? That's quizard's pit. Q-U-I-Z-A-R-D-S-P-I-T. You're going to like the way you learn. I guarantee it. Matt, that's really good.
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