RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Ep 8: "Cosmic Twins Rising" with Trixie and Katya

10:10Trixie Mattel:Yeah. The cockroach of music. I'm crying. I'm gooning. I loved it. It was so good. Best Phantom I've ever seen. The music of the night. I was sobbing. Is it Christine, her name? Yeah, Christine. I'm sobbing. I'm sobbing. My friend hasn't seen it. I'm sobbing after music of the night and after music of the night, you know, he's like, she's fainted and he's over her, like singing to her, whatever the clapping starts. And my friend goes, so what? He's just like a pervert.

10:36Katya Zamolodchikova:I was going to say essay. And I go, honestly,

10:40Trixie Mattel:yeah, I guess he's kind of a pervert. He's watching her through mirrors, but through one eye. Yeah. He's kind of a prevert, I guess, but it's different. He's differently abled. Well, once they pulled the mask off, I forgot that it's exposed brain. Oh no. I thought it was like a slinky eye that came out. No,

10:57Katya Zamolodchikova:that would be so good. the mask comes off and that's exposed brain. Honey, that's not realistic. Christine, that's not a real man. That's animatronic. Nobody could ever survive that.

11:06Trixie Mattel:It was amazing. It was so good. And then I did see wicked. So whatever. Fight me, hoe. I saw two plays in one day. I said, you know what? We're in the West end. Let's fucking see wicked. I haven't seen it. Chicago. No. Why? I don't like Chicago. Have you seen it live? I saw it on the West end. it's not for me. It wasn't for me either. Yeah. It's not for me. You did. Are you telling me you didn't like the movie Rob Marshall's masterpiece? Chicago movies better than what I saw on the stage. Thank you. But, um, I saw Wicked. You saw it was great. Wicked was amazing. Wicked hits every time. Who played Keanu's character.

11:41Trixie Mattel:But let me tell you what happened. I went to the matinee, two 30 PM. So it was, that's,

11:44Katya Zamolodchikova:that's abusive.

11:46Trixie Mattel:So it was high schoolers. It was middle schoolers there. When I tell you what they needed to show at the intermission of wicked, was your changing body video. because the stank, the creases, the crevices, the secretions, and the oils from the middle school community.

11:59Katya Zamolodchikova:In the UK.

12:01Trixie Mattel:Puberty in the UK. It was the perfect storm. That's our Normandy. You know what happened to me? I went to the bathroom and there's all these kids peeing in there. I honestly was like, I haven't been in a bathroom with just kids since I was a kid. Everything about that weirded me out. It's very pedo.

12:19Katya Zamolodchikova:Also, as me, as a gay man, whatever i don't know i feel like i can't anywhere near kids right nowhere i can't be seen because

12:28Trixie Mattel:people's minds go to all gay people are creepos there's nothing about a child that interests me

12:32Katya Zamolodchikova:in any way shape or form even my struggle sometimes with my nephews right and i'm those are my cherished brothers and sisters lovely children right okay that's family right these

12:42Trixie Mattel:fucking stranger kids well they're all in school uniforms too and they're like i'll go to pay you

12:47Katya Zamolodchikova:know they're but that's that's that's a smoke screen because you can't tell which ones are the demons. Right.

12:52Trixie Mattel:Well, I'm checking scalps. They're at the urinal. I'm checking scalps for 666. And lice. Lice. Head lice, of course. That for real is like truly nightmarish. And honestly, I sat down for Wicked. I'm like, all right, no air conditioning. But mind you, I was fricaziered alive at my show in London. You were fricaziered? Fricaziered. Fricaziered to death by heat. What the hell is that? By heat. What does that mean? Is that a thing that just made up? It's a cooking thing.

13:14Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, okay.

13:14Trixie Mattel:No. I was air fried. Who can we call? So Wicked being like, oh, it's what? 75 degrees in here? Sure. But the kids stank. Shout out to the kids. It's time for the VHS that says you're changing body. Yeah. Pop it in.

13:29Katya Zamolodchikova:Pop it in.

13:30Trixie Mattel:Mom and dad. Mom and daddy. Go down to boots number seven.

13:33Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. Get some aluminum deodorant.

13:36Trixie Mattel:Absolutely. Get some aluminum free native. Get native.

13:39Katya Zamolodchikova:No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Not that native shit. Mama, we need the big guns. Right. To shoot those kids dead.

13:45Trixie Mattel:Get the Old Spice swag. Thank you. So then I saw Wix. It was great. Wonderful. my favorite elephant movie I've ever seen it was amazing and then what is your favorite part about Wicked? I love the stage magic the part where the wheelchair spins around the part where she flies the part where the magic happens

14:01Katya Zamolodchikova:oh my god this is funny because on our way home well you weren't on the plane because you stayed but when we left to go back to the States I tried I really put in the effort to watch Wicked the movie I lasted like 20 minutes and I said I'm sorry to this man but I just got to turn her off Although I found Ariana Grande to be particularly charming. Okay. When she does the bubble, she's like, or whatever. Yeah. I was like, it's just when they started singing, I was like, oh, congratulations, all of you. Incredible job. Beautiful talents. Amazing movie. It's not for me. Well, everything's not for everyone, but that's okay.

14:35Katya Zamolodchikova:But I watched Dangerous Liaisons instead. The 1988 smash hit with Michelle Pfeiffer, John Malkovich. And there's no singing. That's perfect for you. Baby, you got to get into that movie. Okay. Okay. She takes a wicket, puts her in the trash. And so then I was like, so how was like, what else from the stage show? What was like besides the magic?

14:54Trixie Mattel:I like the flying. I love the singing. I love the music. Defying gravity. Yeah. Steven Schwartz eats. It's great. So then I thought, okay, in the evening, you know, Michelle Collins. Yes. It was her birthday. So I was like, what do you want to do for your birthday? And she was in London and she said, honestly, I saw Oliver and she was like, I know it sounds crazy, but it's like the best production I've ever seen. And I said, is that Oliver Twist? Yes. Oh. Like food, glorious food. Can I have some more? Yes, that. And I said, okay, I'll take you to see Oliver. So Michelle's the type of girl who we go to a restaurant.

15:26Trixie Mattel:She wants to pick the table. She wants to see every table in the room and go, I want that one. Right. She's selective. But I buy the seats. Discerning. Discerning. I buy third row seats, which I know for some people is too close. But I thought third row is okay. That's perfect.

15:40Katya Zamolodchikova:I would say. Right.

15:41Trixie Mattel:The speakers are right on the end. And I got Michelle an end seat because I know she also likes to feel like she can escape at any moment, you know, but the speakers right here, it's so loud. I'm the Phantom of the Opera. This part of my face has been blown off. Like the music is so loud that I'm, it's sensory overload. It's all these like, you know, British people in musicals been like, I love a show for the morning, you know, and the music is screaming. And I'm gripping the seat like this, like almost like one of those, um, like diarrhea. No, like an ad for like a giant JBL speaker where my hair is being blown back.

16:14Trixie Mattel:Or that classic Maxell ad. You know that one? Yeah. But wait. But it was the best production I've ever seen. Oliver on the West End was the best thing I've ever seen. Pull up. Say it again. It was the best thing I've ever seen on stage. Good job, Oliver. It was amazing. Anyway.

16:31Katya Zamolodchikova:Well, you know what? You need to get into the opera because I haven't experienced it myself, but I've heard that this is how they do it because they use their they don't use amplification. Those whores are trained to just. There's no speakers. Right. Isn't that true? I don't know, actually. Yeah, I think that they just project. That's the whole point of their thing. Like in the theater, the acoustics are built for just like, they don't have a JBL speaker.

16:54Trixie Mattel:I haven't enjoyed opera in the past. I've probably seen five or six. And it's not for me, I think.

17:00Katya Zamolodchikova:I would probably agree. Maybe like the costumes I would totally get into are the staging. But I always took umbrage with that part in Pretty Woman where the low class hooker is like moved by Puccini. I'm like, oh, where? Right. she gives tears to her eyes at the opera I got married in Italy who else got married in Italy who sang at my wedding

17:20Trixie Mattel:Andrea Bocelli

17:24Katya Zamolodchikova:wait we gotta talk about

17:26Trixie Mattel:I go out of my way to find these things that not like everybody has and she copies me I think that she should die and I want to be the one who kills her it's her younger sister I was born

17:36Katya Zamolodchikova:and then what did she do she was born whose vagina did I emerge from Kris Jenner. Right. Who also came out of her pussy. Right. Kris Jenner. Right.

17:53Katya Zamolodchikova:When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to sleeping bear dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial.

18:35Katya Zamolodchikova:Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives, and if I'm traveling with friends, even better.

19:09Katya Zamolodchikova:We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy.

19:54Katya Zamolodchikova:I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks.

20:28Katya Zamolodchikova:All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives, and if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse.

21:04Katya Zamolodchikova:However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak.

21:42Katya Zamolodchikova:After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. all with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives.

22:22Katya Zamolodchikova:And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, We're a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb.

22:46Trixie Mattel:Can we talk about a show called RuPaul's Drag Race? Absolutely. So welcome back. We're back to recapping Drag Race. We have made it to episode eight of season seven of Drag Race. This is the conjoined tween. Oh, that's what we're talking about. Conjoined tweens. Tween. We got conjoined to a tween. That would be so weird. Oh my God. Grown men. And could you imagine doing a conjoined challenge with like a child? Sadly, I can.

23:10Katya Zamolodchikova:No, no. I thought this was a fabulous episode. And I really applaud. You know what? I think season seven for all the shit that it gets, you know, I think they really did have some ingenious challenge. This being one of them. This is one of the only best episodes of the season. Yeah. And also because you know why? Because the makeover episodes often introduce characters that we don't give a shit about. Right. Strangers, who cares? Who cares? Veterans. Veterans, who cares? You know, like ghosts from the past, whatever. Yeah. Family, get out of here. Yeah. We want the people to come back that we already know.

23:42Trixie Mattel:I would rather see Tempest du Jour instead of like - Abraham Lincoln. Tyler Oakley. Yes.

23:47Katya Zamolodchikova:Thank you.

23:48Trixie Mattel:You know, and no offense to Tyler Oakley, but we're often getting somewhere where you're like, oh. Or like some random guy. Some guy. Truly some guy. Like a firefighter. Like, good for you, but what? Yeah. These are women. And sometimes it's like, these are women who are veterans, who are mothers. Right. who are bad yeah survivors of domestic abuse like yeah it's very like drag you so you ready to get fierce um yeah so what happened you know it's like i'm wait hold on is this is this not natural looking i think to them the people listening that lace looks really good for the people in their car they're like man the people just in the car your hairline's incredible well you know it is It's a plastic cap.

24:34Trixie Mattel:You look like you sell pills at a high school football game. That is so tea.

24:39Katya Zamolodchikova:That's a huge, that's a sum of our tea. Girl, you look like you're at a high school football game selling pills.

24:45Trixie Mattel:And? What of it? Okay, go ahead. So the episode opens with a mini challenge where we have Latrice, who's gone to jail, come dress as a bailiff or a jail person. This is a little tasteless. Well, she was, this is a reprise of her get this nuts out of my face character. Also just like, who's been a prison? Get the big black bitch in here. It's like crazy to me. I don't think it was, it was her doing her get the nuts out of my face character. I guess. But also you guys dressing up like you've been in prison in front of someone who has been in prison. I don't know.

25:14Katya Zamolodchikova:The taste level was a little on the floor.

25:16Trixie Mattel:I feel like, but you know, it's drag race, whatever. I don't know. So you guys have a small amount of time to make over yourselves into imprisoned women.

25:24Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh yeah. Yeah, you know, and I filled out the question. I filled out the questionnaire wrong and read it wrong. Like I, what I meant to say was my name. You're supposed to put your actual name. You wrote proficient in Excel. You know, you were kind of doing a job application. My name was supposed to be Pussy Diet as like a pun on Pussy Riot. Like jail, lesbo, do you know what I mean? And then she read Pussycat. I was like, can you not read? Maybe my handwriting was bad. But yeah, and I got, I was in the clink for smuggling.

25:58Katya Zamolodchikova:I was in the clink for smuggling Ghee side of the Ukraine and that was just It just gave me an opportunity to wear that My cat's outfit Andrew Lloyd Webber Thank you

26:08Trixie Mattel:It was a fun challenge Latrice comes in and you say she's like Sharon Stone but fat and black I stand by those words

26:16Katya Zamolodchikova:I still Why am I wearing that blazer? I need you to tell me I love it, you know what

26:23Trixie Mattel:But I'm goth, like in my heart.

26:25Katya Zamolodchikova:But you know what it's good for?

26:26Trixie Mattel:When you are the tour manager for Tegan and Sarah. Or the Wiggles. Or the Wiggles. I'm the agent for the Wiggles. Tegan and Sarah starring in the Wiggles. I'm literally the booking agent for the Wiggles. I love mini challenges like this. I love quick drag on Drag Race. It's one of the best things about Drag Race. And you always excel at it. Because it's no stakes. When I see a stake, I run.

26:48Katya Zamolodchikova:Right.

26:48Trixie Mattel:But if there's no stakes, I thrive. Whenever we get to see one of your 15 minute like drag characters, we're excited. You know what I mean? The tape one from this. Yeah. The tape one. So fame says, same says farm. Her stomach says farm life instead of thug life. Who's? Miss fame. Oh my God. Her stomach says farm life.

27:08Katya Zamolodchikova:She looked so scary.

27:10Trixie Mattel:She looked like. It was like. She looked like Christopher Lloyd in Dennis the Menace. No, it was actually terrifying. No, it was. It was. It was. It was. it was Waterworld Dallas Buyers Club. It was so fucking crazy.

27:24Katya Zamolodchikova:You are really going outside of your comfort zone and I'm uncomfortable. Like she looked crazy.

27:29Trixie Mattel:And for fame to look ugly. It was a big step. Huge for her. And she never does that. But she is good at acting a fool.

27:36Katya Zamolodchikova:Because she is a fool. She is. She's not. Yeah. That's the rub with fame. Yeah. She's a fool. You quickly realize upon meeting her that's like, oh, this lady is nuts.

27:45Trixie Mattel:She is a wacko. Do you remember how you came up with that character on the fly? You just pick something.

27:49Katya Zamolodchikova:Well, no, because I just, I had my little, my little face mask with the pom poms. And I was like, I got to use this. Right. You know, you bring stuff. I don't know if we had to see it. It's like, I'm like a Native American and that I use all the parts of the body. And yeah, you're like a Native American. Do you know what I mean? When I bring it, I don't want to bring something and not use it. There's a limit on that suitcase. Right. So I had this great, lovely thing. I was like, I'm not going to use it on the runway. Here's the perfect chance.

28:14Trixie Mattel:Well, that's how I feel when I'm on drag race and I have like my Victoria's Secret, like backpacks with wings and stuff. Oh my God, I use them. That lingerie, that come hit their lingerie. The lingerie, the Agent P. So I love a comedic prison system moment. Kennedy wins the mini challenge. Which again, stereotyping, profiling. I just am always like, the mini challenges are fun to me because the winner could be anyone.

28:34Katya Zamolodchikova:It could be anyone. How the sausage is made, everybody. We all know that the winner of the mini challenge is to set up the drama. It's not, oh, an objective criteria is used to discover the winner. It's like, okay, we're going to start some shit with her. Right. You know what I mean? Sometimes it is a real game though. Well, on All-Stars 2, our little ball golf thing, girl, that was so fucking horrible. It took forever. But as a viewer, I loved that. As a viewer, you saw that. It was really funny. But in the moment, we were like, oh my God. It literally took like two hours.

29:11Trixie Mattel:On camera, I loved it. I thought it was a funny show. But anytime things get physical in the workroom, I think it's funny.

29:16Katya Zamolodchikova:I think they should do a lot more like wacky physical obstacle challenge like things. You know what I mean? Like pinatas and stuff.

29:23Trixie Mattel:On Traders and all those shows, they get to do fun obstacle courses.

29:27Katya Zamolodchikova:That's what I'm saying. Maybe greater drag race if it was a little bit Ninja Warrior. I would die to go back. I would die to go back if it was more wacko, jacko kind of like really like. Don't even bring drag.

29:39Trixie Mattel:It's drag race, but we're just doing log rolls and like we're going kayaking today. we're bringing this. Yeah. Maybe I do a braid in the front with a bead. That's my big. Yeah. Or maybe don't wear it. So somebody's going to come back. What did you, what did you think was happen?

29:57Katya Zamolodchikova:Um, I actually, you know, in the moment I was so wrapped up in my brown teeth. I don't even remember. So I don't even remember. I'll tell you from my point of view,

30:05Trixie Mattel:when I left, what did, what did they have you do? Wait in a barn or something. I went home for a week and they said, keep your bags packed though. Cause you're coming back. We can't tell you anything else. And I said, okay, But didn't they keep some people? Okay, so Candy Ho lived in Puerto Rico. Candy Ho went home fifth? Maybe fifth, yeah. And she waited from episode five to eight. She was like for two weeks in a hotel room. And Mary, it was not the Four Seasons, nor was it the Ritz.

30:29Katya Zamolodchikova:It was the Beverly Garland. It was the Beverly Garland where the big draw was cable TV.

30:33Trixie Mattel:Right.

30:35Katya Zamolodchikova:Not even a pool. They wouldn't even let the bitch outside. Yeah, they wouldn't take us to the pool. Mary, if you're going to sequester me, I better be at the Ritz or the Four Seasons. They only take me to the gym for 30 minutes, which I really resented. Although they let me smoke as many times as I want.

30:45Trixie Mattel:That's what I'm saying. You know what though?

30:46Katya Zamolodchikova:That's the power of personality, mama. I made them all my friends. I know it. I'm a woman who knows what I want and I know how to get it.

30:51Trixie Mattel:Right.

30:51Katya Zamolodchikova:What do you call that? Coercion?

30:53Trixie Mattel:You call it being nice. Right. So I knew that I was coming back. And when all these other girls were there, I was like, what's happening? Because I don't think there'd ever been a thing where we all come back. And didn't, did you mention that you saw a little RuPaul video after you packed your shit up? No. Oh. You didn't?

31:09Katya Zamolodchikova:No, no, no. No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't.

31:13Trixie Mattel:No, I didn't see that. Oh, that was an All-Stars. That was an All-Stars. I walk in first and I assumed at the time it was because if the viewer sees me come in first, they go, oh, we thought you would be back. Because you were just there. So then when Tempest comes next, it's like, oh, what's happening? Yeah.

31:30Katya Zamolodchikova:If the, if. Yeah. Then Tiffany Haddish comes out.

31:34Trixie Mattel:The last person who went home was Max. So Max didn't even miss an episode, really. She was in Drag Race the next day. She had to go on the other day before. now that was that was fierce because she could have won

31:42Katya Zamolodchikova:on that with that logic yeah as I'm thinking as a person who's like hanging on by a thread at this point I'm like well nobody who's missed three episodes is going to win this show

31:51Trixie Mattel:can I say maybe it's because I've been brought back I think if RuPaul brings you back you should be able to win yeah but it's no I don't think so I mean what if you're safe for two weeks who fucking cares what you did no no no is it better to not be there because then you can say well I would have done a better job on that challenge I don't know

32:06Katya Zamolodchikova:If I'm a secretary general of the army or whatever the fuck, and you go home, you take a leave of absence for three weeks, and you're not in the trenches, I'm not giving you a purple heart.

32:18Trixie Mattel:I don't know. What's the point of bringing people back then? Drama. It's for the viewer. I guess. I think we should take it seriously. If somebody comes back and turns it. I think that you should. Not that I turned it. You should act as if. But if somebody comes back and turns it, they should be able to win, I think. Yeah, I agree with you. Or they should be able to, yeah, they should act as if they are able to win. My favorite thing on Drag Race was when someone comes back and people are mad at the person.

32:40Katya Zamolodchikova:Like it was their idea. Why don't you go tell RuPaul?

32:43Trixie Mattel:When you're on the runway, why don't you have a moment to tell RuPaul that you don't like it?

32:46Katya Zamolodchikova:And in general, it's hysterical. Like you eliminated, you killed my friend. Right. You killed my friend. How dare you kill my friend? And then resuscitated her, which I hate. And then killed her again.

32:55Trixie Mattel:And then killed her. Woman of the hour. Choke her out. Resuscitate her.

32:58Katya Zamolodchikova:Why do they blame the contestant when it's clearly RuPaul and the producers and the judges who pull the trigger?

33:05Trixie Mattel:Thank you. Follow the smoke. There's the gun. Thank you. It's like, I just work here. Thank you. You know, we're all getting our stunning$150 a day. We all have our plastic hairlines. We all have our plastic bag hairlines.

33:20Trixie Mattel:The first, okay. All the groups get grouped up. You get Kasha Davis. How did you feel about that when it happened?

33:25Katya Zamolodchikova:I felt fine. Okay. I like her. I love, you know, I love, I love her. So it was easy. It wasn't my first choice or my second or third. No, I'm just kidding.

33:32Trixie Mattel:Because I, there was a talking here where you said this hag needs to go to rehab. I'm just kidding I'm just kidding I'm just kidding I was talking about myself I was her talking about you you girls saying see you there you know see you at summer camp see you at Promises see you exactly hates it so we get Tempest and Jade in which I love

33:55Katya Zamolodchikova:like Ebony and Ivory I mean polar opposites couldn't find a pair more diametrically opposed it's the excellent it's the Sears Tower and the Bean

34:05Trixie Mattel:you know what I mean it's very it's twins it's Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger it's very that which is that can work it can work it can really work we get Ginger and Sasha I believe yeah I get Pearl which is I mean which is fine love that cut to the thing you guys

34:19Katya Zamolodchikova:yeah she does a great job Candy Ho and Fame the sleeper cell hit

34:23Trixie Mattel:they did a good job baby then Max and Violet we will get there

34:27Katya Zamolodchikova:but Max and Violet ate too but I'm telling you the way that Fame took Candy's face and beat her with a bat of beauty. Not to say that she wasn't beautiful to begin with. Of course she was. Unrecognizable. Bame knows how to stamp. She knows how to Hannibal Lecter her face right onto somebody else's. So well.

34:43Trixie Mattel:Candy was in the, she was in the witness protection program. She got different fingerprints. She was Shandy. She put in fake teeth like Mrs. Doubtfire. Shandy Crow. She was Shandy Crow. Shandy Crow. So fucking good. Can I ask a real question? If we're talking about things on Drag Race that wouldn't fly. Do you like how I just did this? I love that. You were the one with the wig on and I'm like, um, what? Things on Drag Race that wouldn't fly today. I feel like we're in a world where, um, we get made fun of by conservatives about how much we rip into each other for like, who's the most woke. We're constantly doing the woke awards on the left.

35:19Trixie Mattel:Could you do conjoined today? I think so. Like I actually am like, would people it mad? I don't know.

35:25Katya Zamolodchikova:You could do it. I think the real hot water is when you call it Siamese.

35:29Trixie Mattel:Right. You know what I mean? Like that kind of, but also a runway. That's a, That's about a birth defect. You know, like, I don't know if people do it today. I don't know. I'm not, I'm maybe it would. Which makes me sad because it's a wonderful runway idea.

35:42Katya Zamolodchikova:And I don't, I, yeah, of course it's, it's for comedic value. It's, it's, um. I love it. I love this challenge. I don't know. It's a good question. At the time I thought, what a brilliant idea.

35:52Trixie Mattel:If anybody is conjoined, um, please comment below. I love this runway. And what I liked about this runway is a fault. Okay. To me, conjoined is a starting point. and then you get to go creatively. Why? Who are they? Yeah. And where? Yes. You get some whores. You get some wine box ladies.

36:10Katya Zamolodchikova:Which I get some. I like the storytelling. Me too. And I love the aesthetic choices are really fun and there's like a lot of options. Me and Kasia picked a very athletic, kind of logistically difficult. It was very like sexy.

36:27Trixie Mattel:Kotex human centipede. Human vaginapede.

36:31Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. Actually, I used to draw things in the hotel to slip to the PA. I remember. Human Vagina Pede was one of them. Human Vagina Pede. Look it up.

36:41Trixie Mattel:I received some of them. Did you? Oh, yeah. Legs open. Always legs open. Always a pussy. And always nipples and always smiling. That's a blueprint. That's the blueprint.

36:53Katya Zamolodchikova:If you guys weren't stuck with who you were partnered with, who would you choose? Oh, great. I think we could have done a good job. I think we would have done a great job. However, I would have struggled with, I, you know, I'm going to, I'm not a great makeup makeup artist. I think what Pearl did, did you do your makeup?

37:07Trixie Mattel:Pearl did the hair and makeup and I made the outfit. You guys, so late.

37:11Katya Zamolodchikova:She did a great job. So late. And it was such a fun, funny, perfectly executed concept. It was so great. It was like the moment you're on the runway was like, it was like so clear and fabulous.

37:23Trixie Mattel:Yeah. We were standing there and I, I mean, we can get to it. but I remember getting her and feeling like, you know, I hadn't seen her since I was eliminated and Pearl and I still are friends. And it was, it's, it's emo to get eliminated from your friend. And she was like, you know, what if we do like a toddlers and cheer? I think I said toddlers and Tiaras. And we basically attached the idea of there's always the ugly twin or pretty twin. And then toddlers and Tiaras. So it was like, Oh, we're like, what about little stage princesses where one of them is, wants to be a pageant girl and the other one's just along for the ride.

37:54Trixie Mattel:I would love to have, it was perfect.

37:55Katya Zamolodchikova:I would have preferred to be picked by fame. Or vice versa. Oh, you guys could have done a great job. She went on to paint my face years later, but I would just... She is so comfy. She really is. God, she just puts her face right on yours. She absolutely turns it. Like Candy, I'm telling you, she was... You would not have been able to tell who that was. Candy.

38:17Trixie Mattel:She looked really pretty. She looked really pretty. I didn't love the concept, honestly. I think the plastic surgery thing was... It was tired and played out. A little toothless. like obviously it's not drag risk today but like once got mick did the top surgery runway all the plastic surgery shit is shut down hanging up hanging up it's over that was the period yeah um kennedy says kennedy says in a talking head about violet we don't need to see how small you can make your waist every challenge which is really fucking fierce because i think violet's like what if we are cinched twins and kennedy i guess is mad about that i mean i love it kennedy is the star of this shit she really is the unfiltered conscience you don't give a fuck

38:59Katya Zamolodchikova:she's like she's not impressed no and she's not she has had no boat she had no qualms about saying

39:04Trixie Mattel:i know she's so fucking funny she's crazy so there's these they do this thing that is incredibly cruel but incredibly hilarious where fame is talking and they do a montage of her talking and they make her look long-winded. I think it's in her interview and she's, it's just talking, talking. And that is how fame is. But the edit is so.

39:24Katya Zamolodchikova:But it was so deserved at that point because you have to realize, people at home, if something seems a little played out on the show, baby, that's the edit.

39:34Trixie Mattel:So in reality, we have been over it for weeks. You know what I mean? Bob and I were just talking about this this morning because Bob and I were talking about that moment between, have you seen that moment between Mr. Isabel Brooks and Aja? and Bob said I just did this morning viewers at home don't know if something's awkward on TV it's 10 times worse in person

39:51Katya Zamolodchikova:when Alaska said stunning on All Stars 2 Mama you thought she said it four times? 400 times it was just like shut up yeah just shut up crazy shut up bitch shut up ugly bitch you ugly skinny fat bitch right you skinny fat bitch you skinny fat hoe no but yeah you gotta realize when things are like like you just said we get the concentrated juice version but it's the full fat when we're experiencing it's really hit yeah also we start to get fame how's your head oh god now you know what I think this is a little unfair

40:24Trixie Mattel:do you know who else wouldn't have got that

40:26Katya Zamolodchikova:everybody I love Elvira and I wouldn't have got that everybody and it's like I was like you know I think it's a little bit cruel not cruel but it was a little like mean bully

40:36Trixie Mattel:like bully yes and also Paul refuses to accept that other people are not the exact same. As culturally literate, as a

40:44Katya Zamolodchikova:65-year-old pop genius? Right.

40:47Trixie Mattel:What the fuck? So RuPaul is talking to these 17-year-olds drag race. Like, what do you mean you don't know who the Wright brothers are? The Miracle of Flight? You don't know Shaka Khan's B-Sides? Who are you? You're not an American. Right. I love that. RuPaul taking away people's social security numbers. You're out of here. It's like, you don't know Taylor Dane's birthday? I don't.

41:06Katya Zamolodchikova:RuPaul should be

41:07Trixie Mattel:administering citizenship tests.

41:08Katya Zamolodchikova:I know. green card like stamped you know and I did I was like although and you know what to her credit nobody in the workroom was like hey girl she's talking about Elvira just say haven't had any complaints right you know but she just makes a mockery of her and it's like you know she doesn't know it

41:27Trixie Mattel:and she's never gonna know it also I'm not saying this is a bad season but you know it's bad when this is a running joke it's not funny that she doesn't get it it's not funny because I'm telling you half of the viewers don't get it either that's what I'm saying

41:37Katya Zamolodchikova:how's your head haven't had any complaints i mean that movie is so fun though of ira mistress of the dark oh yeah

41:43Trixie Mattel:so good the part where she's doing the renovation and she's showing her butt and she goes just grab a tool and start whacking so stupid you know it gives me that uh terry hatcher and um and so just

41:53Katya Zamolodchikova:like you have beautiful eyes they're nothing compared to my tits also love that also love

41:58Trixie Mattel:that oh this is i noticed this is you working with kasha the last time you did this was the despies when it didn't go well did you think about that or no yeah and to be honest like

42:08Katya Zamolodchikova:I don't know she didn't fuck up in the death space I'm sorry right she stumbled one word right give me a break yeah we weren't that funny I mean we weren't terrible what's worse that one stumble or your wig thank you to be tea I could have very well have been said Mary if it hadn't been for my little one line thing that cracked your up I would have gone home that episode right 100 % and probably killed and shit on and hot shit wet diarrhea and then a double barrel shotgun and get to my hot Carl? Shitty mouth. Who's wet Carl? It's a runny shit.

42:42Trixie Mattel:Who's wet Carl? Wet Carl. As far as, so we don't get to see much of us getting ready for the runway because there's so many runways to get through. So we kind of cut from us pairing up to the runway. So there's not a lot of like, hey, you have AIDS, right? There's not a lot of storylines. Yeah. I wrote, I just wrote, I wrote, RuPaul does it again. RuPaul looks better this season. Girl! RuPaul looks so fucking good. Mama, it is. She looks fucking great. I. Touchable.

43:13Katya Zamolodchikova:The thing about it is, and I just watched this morning, the episode, last night rather, and we'll get to this, but I just have to say very quickly, her makeup in the fucking dance, Prancing Queens. It is. Serious. It is. Take off that fucking ugly ass Mona Lisa. That shit ass Mona Lisa painting. in the Louvre and put up a fucking Polaroid of her face from that Prince and Queen the makeup is just it's unreal it's absolute 100 % fucking fine art and she has every piece of hair she wears all of her makeup she's so stamped and it's so perfect it's crazy yeah

43:55Trixie Mattel:it's crazy shout out to Matthew Anderson it's a great makeup job Matthew Anderson is a fucking the hair too

44:00Katya Zamolodchikova:the hair in contrast whoever does your hair is like doing a fine great job they're all doing a wonderful job I'm just appreciating a different style yes This is for me, this is the quintessential season seven, RuPaul, hair and makeup and costumes. It's amazing. It's the pinnacle. It's amazing. She fucking goes on that runway seven feet tall and does fucking shits. Bloody, like bloody shit.

44:22Trixie Mattel:Opens up her legs and shoots wet shit. It's like a t-shirt cannon, except there ain't no t-shirts. It's shit. It's all shit. And Michelle just lays it with her mouth open and just takes it. Right? Yeah, exactly. She opens up her breasts. Yeah. And the hilarious Ross Matthews goes like, I'll have what she's had.

44:37Katya Zamolodchikova:And it's gobble, gobble. It's gobble, gobble. No, but for real though, it is like, it's literally breathtaking. It is. It's literally breathtaking. The hair. Baby, it's not standing in front of a white loaf. Right. She's got those beautiful venti... I mean, and they're all synthetic. Yeah. The collar too. She's wearing this like... Color. Almost gold blonde. A lot of the golden. It's very pretty. And a lot of that Marilyn style that could be very like dowdy. Mama, it's so sexy on her.

45:03Trixie Mattel:Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. It's serious. We also get me telling, I mean, I forgot that I even talked about this on television, but I talk about my relationship with my stepdad. Obviously, that response, people like that level. In my experience, when you're that level open with the audience, it usually never backfires. People can tell when you're being. But I can't believe now thinking back at 24, I went on TV and talked about that. Well, you were trying to manipulate them into keeping you. Let's just call a spade a spade. I'm just kidding. I mean I do remember probably coming back and thinking like this is story producers are asking about this maybe they need you know well no but you are very vulnerable and you're not you're not like a you're not a fake person no and also my primary abuser died of alcohol so I don't have to worry about him watching that on television he's long gone so in a way it was like I probably have more freedom than most people who've been abused by their parents you know because I'm like who's gonna check me yeah not that dead ass dead ass.

45:59Trixie Mattel:But I couldn't believe I talked about that. And I did get my drag name from that, which I kind of forget about now. So I guess that's interesting. It is. I mean, it's heartbreaking. It's sad. That's what I mean. Watching it, I'm like, 24-year-old me is just dumb enough that I would never talk about that really now.

46:15Katya Zamolodchikova:You were a child. I know. You were a tiny little teeny tiny little tween. Right.

46:21Trixie Mattel:I hadn't even had my period. I hadn't even had my period. I hadn't even had my period. Where was she? Right.

46:26Katya Zamolodchikova:I loved being with Kasia but it was a physical stress oh my god it was like we were the whole day

46:34Trixie Mattel:so that's what people don't know we were stuck to Pearl and I were stitched into that thing yeah but side by side me and her were like we had to start I also Jasmine and Kennedy it was so great so low effort

46:49Katya Zamolodchikova:it was so like

46:50Trixie Mattel:no they said something like it says no one ever told me to hold my head up I don't know what that means the judges is, do you know what it is?

46:57Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah, that Kennedy was talking about how Jasmine said that to her. Like that no one's told no one's told Jasmine.

47:03Trixie Mattel:Oh, yeah. This was so moving. Kennedy's talking about how I told Jasmine to hold her head up and she told me no one's even told her that before. Oh my God. That's like give me a full body chill. Jasmine, hold your fucking head up. Yeah. Get it out of the toilet, bitch. I mean, that just made me, I mean, that's

47:19Katya Zamolodchikova:beautiful.

47:20Trixie Mattel:You know, and they are really good friends and their friendship is actually so wholesome. They really like each other.

47:25Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah, and also it was like, it started out so like the opposite of bitchy and cunty where she was like, it was like that moment of jubilant joy to see Kennedy, someone she admired in the workroom. And it was like, oh, this is different.

47:36Trixie Mattel:Yeah.

47:36Katya Zamolodchikova:This is a different fun energy to have.

47:38Trixie Mattel:That never happens anymore. No, never. I don't think it ever had happened. I think it happens like when someone's really famous and then does drag race, but that doesn't really happen anymore.

47:48Katya Zamolodchikova:No, and also it was just like really, Jasmine is just so like, she's like an antidote to so much bullshit. She is. in a weird way she doesn't really belong on Drag Race in that way no she doesn't at all she's one of those untoppable forces unless you try to put her in a box

48:04Trixie Mattel:right completely I also completely forgot that Leanne Rimes is in this episode completely forgot Homewrecker she's the judge and Nelson Ellis is there who died from True Blood rest in peace

48:21Katya Zamolodchikova:maybe I shouldn't speak ill of the dead You didn't like his critiques, did you? Well, here's the thing. I think he was having a very troubling day. I'm not sure if you remember. He was barely awake the whole time.

48:32Trixie Mattel:Yes. I do remember his critiques being very positive. And I hadn't seen True Blood at the time. But since I've watched True Blood, I'm like, I love him.

48:41Katya Zamolodchikova:He's so good in True Blood. I was like, he was so not Lafayette. I was like, holy shit, that's a good fucking actor. You're an actor, yes. That's a good fucking actor. He's not.

48:49Trixie Mattel:He wasn't like, honey, you. It was like, oh, this is a man. here unrecognizable yeah unrecognizable i think so rest in peace um leanne rhymes you know what you did i wrote um candy looks amazing if we haven't talked about that uh blah blah blah jasmine and kennedy do look like a mirror image of each other which i can appreciate the dress and the hair they look exactly which i i think at the time i didn't appreciate now on tv i'm like because to me you know me you think a gown doesn't look the same no a gown doesn't cut it what do you mean the story oh sure sure sure sure yeah yeah what's it yeah what's the but i do like that they do look like twins.

49:21Trixie Mattel:Yeah. They did a great job. Who did the paint? Kennedy. Probably Kennedy, yeah. Violet and Max are amazing.

49:28Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah.

49:28Trixie Mattel:It's a cool outfit. I didn't care for it that much. Sasha and Ginger have no nipples. Oh, I didn't. Just the breasts. I didn't love that one.

49:34Katya Zamolodchikova:I didn't love the breast. I like how bad it was. It was very Selma Blair in that pecker. It was very boo-boo, like poopy-doopy.

49:42Trixie Mattel:It's like a funny outfit to wear to like a night-night showing of Rocky Horror. Yeah. It's weird to go on the runway. Shitty Halloween outfit. And then they're walking the runway sideways, sidestepping. Like, you know, don't like that. I wrote that you were amazing. Well, and Pearl and I ate.

49:56Katya Zamolodchikova:You guys like tore the shit up. You really took a huge giant dump on that stage and we all slipped through it. Shitty.

50:02Trixie Mattel:Well, I remember the, I'm watching and there's a part where they zoom in and I paused it. I'm looking at the headgear and I'm like, I made that. It's so, it's so,

50:11Katya Zamolodchikova:and also it's so like the, everything about it, like the texture, the color, the, the, the story. It was like so perfect. Yeah. I really loved it.

50:18Trixie Mattel:She did a great job with the makeup.

50:19Katya Zamolodchikova:let's just get what we will say y 'all did not make those outfits

50:23Trixie Mattel:they were pre-made the outfits were well they gave us all those dresses on racks

50:27Katya Zamolodchikova:yes they did

50:28Trixie Mattel:and all we did was cut them together and stitch them together I cut a hole down the thing and then cut the skirt off and the skirt we safety pinned all that tool just safety pin it well I would love to point out that I did a lot of sewing well I would love to point out that it did not pay off yeah I sewed all that trim oh So I brought wire to Drag Race. Don't ask me why. I was like, what if I have to wire something? I don't know. I brought a spool of wire. We got to do it. Like I'm going to the Hunger Games or some shit. We're going to be doing electronics. I know. I brought a spool of wire from the hardware store because I thought I could use it building a garment.

51:04Trixie Mattel:I thought like, what if I try to make something and I just need to like add structure to something? Well, Jasmine brought bread. Jasmine brought bread. So. And then I took, you know, when you make, you know, those Emory boards, I cut that in half to make each of the thing here. Brilliant. Brilliant. I took two paper clips, molded it to the shape of my teeth, and I took beads from friendship bracelets and hot glued them to line up with my teeth. Okay, MacGyver. And then super glued them to my teeth. They were really stuck in my mouth. No wonder you needed veneers. But it looks like braces. It looks perfect.

51:33Trixie Mattel:It was amazing. I think if I had the veneers, I would have been too scared to fuck the teeth up. But at the time, I was kind of desperate. And I honestly was like, I wanted to come back. It was good. It was so deserved. I just wrote, people don't realize we were stuck together all day. The whole day. We were stuck together all fucking day. The whole day. The body heat of like me and Pearl rubbing.

51:53Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. And Kasia has a huge cock. Well. And mine's so tiny. Sorry, it just migrated.

52:01Trixie Mattel:Well, you have a pussy. You had your vaginal plastic. She was fucking you, really. When you think about it. If you really stopped to think about it. When you really stopped to think, I had full body chills. I also, I mean, Pearl did a great job on the hair and makeup. I wrote Kasia and Katia can't walk you can barely walk in that outfit strut it strut pout let it out that's what you want from women streaks in the toilet and I just wrote sorry Ginger and Sasha look awful yeah they look terrible I hate the hair spray hair bump it was so bottom deserved

52:31Katya Zamolodchikova:yeah they really they really fought for that bottom spot look awful yeah not their best idea although it's such such a fucking when Ginger's in the bottom she really lets you have some entertainment I'll tell you that she do she really does she's not you can accuse her of many things being a boring performer is not one of them

52:49Trixie Mattel:no Ginger is honestly rewatching this we're about halfway through now rewatching this season has just made me really I think the top three was the right top three oh yeah 100 % and Ginger's amazing at drag race she's good at challenges I know we haven't talked about

53:07Katya Zamolodchikova:John Waters yet but when we do baby

53:09Trixie Mattel:she's good at drag race yeah

53:11Katya Zamolodchikova:well she's good at the challenges she's good at the challenges Ginger's well we'll get to it but um yeah yeah she's amazing she's amazing this sucked though cause she can't sew neither can Sasha and Sasha's a really nice person but she's not a huge personality well she hadn't find her calling it

53:26Trixie Mattel:which is

53:26Katya Zamolodchikova:showing her big showing her big fat

53:28Trixie Mattel:fucking ass so that I can stroke it alright next episode um we are gonna be going into uh the John Water challenge the reading challenge is next it's gonna get hot oh god that's right and the next episode we're actually gonna do two episodes we're gonna do John Waters and we're going to do Prince and Queens.

53:45Katya Zamolodchikova:So get ready. Strap on your plastic hairlines and get ready. We didn't even see who gets eliminated. Jaden goes home. Oh, right. Jaden goes home and they really had a disadvantage. I felt like, you know, and also because I think, you know, you just think logically, oh, the likelihood of the person who went home first coming back this late in the game is probably pretty low. I do feel bad that.

54:07Trixie Mattel:I do feel bad. Who put them together? You? No. Who put them together? Kennedy, the winner of the challenge, I believe. Um, I do feel bad that both times a costume professor was on drag race. She had to sew and was eliminated. Yeah. That feels bad. I know. Also, I feel because Tempest went home first, I almost, if it wasn't me, was like, wouldn't it be great if Tempest got another day on drag race? That would be cool. Um, because on all stars, when someone came back, it was Morgan who went home first. So I've been there when someone who has missed six episodes comes back. And what was the vibe?

54:40Trixie Mattel:It's like, girl, what are you doing here? Get out of here. It was like, you better walk on water, hoe. Yeah. You better make RuPaul look like a dog. And also, it's like, try your best, baby. But she had missed, Morgan had missed six challenges. Like, Tempest would have missed seven weeks of Drag Race. Yeah, they'd be like, what was your name again? Yeah. So, I don't know. That would have been kind of odd. But anyway, we'll see you next week on Sibling Rivalry. Sibling Rivalry. Goodbye. Wait, wait, wait. Last thing. Sound off in the comments about my plastic hairline. Yeah, sound off in the comments about the plastic.

55:12Trixie Mattel:how much boner you got let's take all this good human hair and sew it to some saran wrap thank you bye bye

55:43Thank you.