RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Eps 11 to 14: "Le Finalé Débonnaire Extraordinaire" with Trixie and Katya

7:48Trixie Mattel:What's it going to be about? And then a year later when I watched it, I was so jealous. Yeah. That you guys got to do this Hello Kitty shit and I would have loved to meet Hello Kitty. Yeah, I didn't care for her that much.

8:01Katya Zamolodchikova:She doesn't talk. It's true. Yeah, it was like, I hated that challenge. You did? Oh, yeah. It showed. Yeah, I mean, I like, well, it's so, first of all I was so deliriously having like unraveling having a minty bee as evidenced by my outfit in the styling process you're rock I felt like Sandra Bullock in space with no oxygen you know what I mean

8:26Trixie Mattel:if the best drag queen here went home what is this competition really about

8:29Katya Zamolodchikova:it's bullshit

8:30Trixie Mattel:it's garbage

8:33Katya Zamolodchikova:and I mean it's not fun it's depressing Pearl was like why don't you just make some little like, Pearl was actually trying to help me. She was like, why don't you just make some little Russian, I don't forget what the fuck she said. But I was like, what do you mean? Like, out of what, Pearl? Out of what on that table? Well, RuPaul sets up the challenge first.

8:51Trixie Mattel:Oh, yeah. And RuPaul says, this is Hello Kitty. You guys need to create like a fun kitty girl look using Hello Kitty shit. Hello Kitty ball. I didn't get a good look. Was there a lot of fabric?

9:02Katya Zamolodchikova:Was there a lot of fabric? No. So there was the shit fucking fabric wall from Fabric Fabric Planet. Sheer. Rips instantly. Girl, the nastiest see-through nylon spandex. Sweatshop. Crap. Total crap. With the shitty sewing machine. Hate those singers. And then a table of junk. If you ever did Drag Race again, you should bring your own sewing machine. Oh, I would. I just got a fucking Juki cover stitch. I got my little...

9:32Trixie Mattel:What's that cover stitch?

9:33Katya Zamolodchikova:Cover stitch is... I'm just going to touch my cock the edges of this

9:40Trixie Mattel:oh I see oh how nice oh yeah baby so instead of having to go in and hem it it just does it

9:47Katya Zamolodchikova:it finishes all the edges yeah like professionally like you can make t-shirts with that shit oh baby

9:55Trixie Mattel:can't wait to see what little yuckies you turn out oh you'll never see these too erotic okay so the challenge That does matter. She makes mostly her own clothes and we do sit on camera. And so the edges do matter. Yes. And also I... I'm dry grace, fuck the edges. If they tell you about the edges, do this. Yeah, eat my ass. Truly do this. But in real life. Would you love to slurp on my hole? Put a boba straw up to my asshole and taste something from my large intestine. Diba.

10:27Katya Zamolodchikova:Tapioca pearls, baby. Because when I do this and there's an HD camera and you see the no, you know what I mean? It makes a difference. Anyways, there were two challenges. It was a ball, a relatively easy ball with drag race standards, I would say. Relatively easy ball. From this table of Hello Kitty crap, make an outfit. And then also you get this head. Hello Kitty head. You make a Hello Kitty character who has a backstory. Then you record a voiceover and then you present the character and then you present your outfit on the runway. But they didn't say the character at first.

11:00Trixie Mattel:so first you guys are working on your outfits and then RuPaul goes by the way and then RuPaul brings in all these mascot heads and you guys are like now what which ironically skipping ahead it was the better part of your challenge was the character

11:17Katya Zamolodchikova:it was the only good part of my challenge how did you come up with it well I brought the dress from home thank you very much I love that multicolor hound's tooth fabric love it so much I wear the shit out of that Ajax I made it into a dress and then I just thought how funny would it be if it was like if she was communist rather than capitalist well

11:41Trixie Mattel:you're skipping over a lot the teeth oh yeah I mean like how'd you come up with the tiny yellow teeth

11:46Katya Zamolodchikova:it was the Soviet Union

11:48Trixie Mattel:and they have yellow teeth sometimes oh well I just wanted her

11:52Katya Zamolodchikova:to be like a smoker she had a cigarette too I can I they didn't like it they didn't like it they didn't like it The judges? No, the Hello Kitty people. Oh. They thought I was making a mockery of their precious product.

12:06Trixie Mattel:Well, I don't think so. Because they give Kelly, Hello Kelly Hitty. Hello Hitty! Hello Hitty. They give her an option to say, would you be friends with? And she says no to Pearl, the slutty one. She says no to yours. I think she says yes to the cow. So at least they're giving the character an opportunity to distance themselves from the creation of the thing. I hated all the other characters. I think Pearl's was fun. bra and panties with a fur coat with like a hair flip and a big smile.

12:33Katya Zamolodchikova:Pearls was fun.

12:33Trixie Mattel:And she's like hair flipping. The cow I didn't care for.

12:36Katya Zamolodchikova:Who was the cow?

12:37Trixie Mattel:I think Ginger made a cow.

12:38Katya Zamolodchikova:What was it? Violets was... Violets was cute. It was a little beret. That episode, experience, recording that little thing at the end of the day in the little booth was the only fun. It was the only saving grace. I was truly having a minty bee. It was not fun. At what point did this freak out start and why? It started when we grabbed the materials from the table. And I just, like, I was, so when I'm making something, I need to think about stuff. I'm not good in a rush. I'm not good in a pinch. I don't work well under pressure when I'm on camera. Right. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm procrastinating, that's a different thing.

13:19Katya Zamolodchikova:I'm in my own house. But, like, I want to Google stuff. I want to look up Marc Jacobs, 19. You know what I mean? I want to look at references. is I want to like do some research. Right. You don't have access to any of that stuff and I don't have a library of fashion in my head. Also, none of the shit to me seemed like usable. I was like, this all sucked. It wasn't a lot of toys. It was like toys and baubles, pillows. Crap. Yeah, crap. And I'm not actually that, I'm not a really creative fashion wise, I'm not a creative person like that. You know, I make three outfits. So, and I just wanted to go home, you know?

13:55Katya Zamolodchikova:I hadn't been to an AA meeting in six weeks. That was like very difficult. Not to like boohoo myself. But at that point, I was like an hour sober. I'd out a year and a half sober for the first time. So that was tough. And I was like unraveling. And so because watching it. Like I had a panic attack and ugly cried outside.

14:18Trixie Mattel:I was watching with people who had never seen it. And their reaction was, is she giving up? They said that early in the episode. Was she giving up? Yeah. Their perception was you just are kind of choosing to not fight at this point. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Accepting death. Laying down on a six-inch puddle and wanting to drown. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because you were actively probably the best sewer there, which is confusing.

14:41Katya Zamolodchikova:The irony is that I took a relatively non-stretch felt fabric and made a skin-tight catsuit out of it. Why? Because I know how to make a catsuit. Right. The point is that the garment did not look good, but the garment fit perfectly.

14:58Trixie Mattel:I think, I honestly think the garment, I had a bigger issue with the hair.

15:02Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, no, no, no, no. That's where, that's where the real. If you had the right hair. That's where the real cuckoo stuff. That's, that's like, oh, she's, she's jumped off. She jumped out the window.

15:12Trixie Mattel:If you had a cunty, like, updo with like a boa, an organza boa, I actually think that look could have been fine. I don't know what. Let's get to the looks because the meat of it is the character runways, which is fine. It's like a warm up for the real runways. And you guys have no performing challenge. You just did puppets. There's no real performing.

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16:51Katya Zamolodchikova:Try Wonderful Pistachios chocolate sea salt and chocolate toffee today. Visit wonderfulpistachios.com to learn more. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb. The perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak.

17:32Katya Zamolodchikova:After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives.

18:13Katya Zamolodchikova:And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb. When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt.

18:49Katya Zamolodchikova:This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb, the perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial. Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream.

19:23Katya Zamolodchikova:That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like summer you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives. And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly.

19:57Katya Zamolodchikova:And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through airbnb so let's go through the looks um

20:18Trixie Mattel:i just the rose and the thorn i actually think ginger pulled it out for her skill set sure that was the best thing she's probably ever made on drag race yeah yeah yeah i think she just took a course and glued shit to it which is she looked fine valid yeah kenny looked a fucking mess what

20:31Katya Zamolodchikova:was with kennedy's she can't the mask she can't sew and she can't sure taste level with that kind and stuff was like, she didn't have a MNDB but she just is not. The mask? She's crazy. She loves to glue shit to her face.

20:43Trixie Mattel:She mutilated all those Hello Kitties and put the bows, glued the bows on. She loves to glue shit to her face.

20:47Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah.

20:48Trixie Mattel:That was a tough look. I thought Ginger did a pretty good job. I thought Pearls

20:53Katya Zamolodchikova:was so cute. It's so adorable. I thought it was so funny. I think this is her worst look of the season. Well, yeah. I mean, it's not going to get Fashion Week recognition, but it's like she wiggled down in a little... Didn't even fit her. yeah that's true

21:06Trixie Mattel:I mean it's a tube it's so funny though

21:09Katya Zamolodchikova:I guess I mean Violet literally took she opened her butt cheeks girl and she sprayed the whole studio Mary it took six weeks she ate all you little faggot I actually think they had to burn that studio down because there was so much ass blown in that studio from her hole she

21:25Trixie Mattel:and by the way confidence her just going I have an idea I'm gonna make a head cage oh let's go mod with it I mean she fucking made a boostie I think she went she had like okay do do do here we go and never stopped and she put the fur on the waist like that shit I remember watching it I was doing a viewing party in DC what's that place in DC not town the other one engine 10 something it's upstairs I remember being in a bar watching this oh I know what you're talking about and she came out and I was like yeah and I remember calling her and going you're gonna win that was amazing that was amazing that was amazing it truly was before I had to really thought that ginger Ginger might not win.

22:03Trixie Mattel:So that was my turning point where I go, Violet, I think might really deserve this. That was my turning point where I was like, I love Ginger. I think you should win. So then it's the lip sync. Were you surprised to be in the bottom? Does the bear shit in the woods?

22:19Katya Zamolodchikova:Is the Pope Catholic?

22:20Trixie Mattel:Do I have a diaper on right now? I think it's interesting that you think your outfit was worse than pearls.

22:26Katya Zamolodchikova:It's the styling. The styling is... The hair was really fucked. Why did you do that? Why did you do that? Mary, why does a crazy woman, why did that woman sashay with her own shit in downtown when we had it at that restaurant? We don't ask why. That was during the finale. It was just when. We need to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a lovely expensive dinner to celebrate season seven in downtown. When we were doing the reunion.

22:48Trixie Mattel:Yeah. So she and I had become friends on the phone after the season. We barely talked on Drag Race. We become friends. And so then when we go to film the finale, she and I are hanging out maybe for the first time.

22:58Katya Zamolodchikova:Had a lovely splurge on a dinner. Fancy. Fancy dinner.

23:00Trixie Mattel:town and she and I are just still in awe that anything has happened. We're still in awe that we get to do drag race. We had done that. Remember being in awe of touring with lady bunny. Yeah. I remember doing the premiere parties with lady bunny and being like, I can't believe that's her. Like, you know, and now I'm in on a different way, you know? Um, but she and I are downtown LA and we're walking from dinner and we see this woman and she has a kind of a, kind of a Dorothy Hamill cropped hair. No, she had, she had long hair. No, she didn't. She did. Maybe she did. She had long brown hair. Wearing a bed sheet.

23:33Trixie Mattel:Bathrobe. Bathrobe open. Completely covered in feces.

23:37Katya Zamolodchikova:No tie. It was open. Sashay Shantae. Breast open. On the runway. Walking like. Literally like Naomi Campbell.

23:46Trixie Mattel:Naomi Campbell. Covered in fecal material.

23:50Katya Zamolodchikova:And not the brand fecal matter. Actual shit. Breasts. Shitty breasts.

23:55Trixie Mattel:And like sunblock.

23:56Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. With the shit.

23:57Trixie Mattel:It was like mud mask, but with shit. and I'm in shock I'm like no I remember you going oh work work work work work work work work work it own it work so she was going oh work oh my god work work because she lifts this shit I was like I still remember like it was yesterday she was walking like y 'all faggots can't touch me she was she the shoulders she was cutting she

24:19Katya Zamolodchikova:was twisting I mean moving yeah hitting it was like Poo Lander

24:24Trixie Mattel:very like Mayhem Miller eyes like like she was giving And it just goes to show you, you wear it well. It's really about anus thing as possible. Yeah.

24:37Katya Zamolodchikova:She could sell diarrhea to a man with white gloves on.

24:41Trixie Mattel:Confidence. Confidence. Which I think your outfit, other than a calculator on the chest, whatever, if you had different hair and different styling and you did not present it like it sucked, I don't necessarily think you would have been in the bottom. You were broadcasting Send Me Home Now. Yeah. I mean I think well I mean asking for death

25:01Katya Zamolodchikova:yes because I and I well they didn't air this but I told RuPaul to send me home

25:06Trixie Mattel:not a great strategy to win

25:07Katya Zamolodchikova:I didn't want to win right I didn't want to win on the main stage when after Santino literally ripped me a new ass I was like alright faggot you don't know who I am get the fuck out of here nice to meet you at this age you're like I have a full head of hair don't talk to me you know yeah how old were you 33 32 wow and And yeah, I was like, I was just, I knew that he was going to read me, read me, read me. I was like, whatever. Okay. And then, but then I was so naive and I was like, so like, I was like legitimately struggling. So I, and I, I made a comment that I didn't realize, I think ethically, ethically they cannot use this.

25:46Katya Zamolodchikova:But I said like, I'm, I'm freaking out. I haven't been to a meeting. I am like really struggling. So it's like, basically I was like.

25:55Trixie Mattel:well they edited that to RuPaul going you know you know Raven Simonier they just did that over it you know

26:05Katya Zamolodchikova:but it was like and I felt I was like oh god I'm so embarrassed like no media literacy or training you know what I mean I was like

26:12Trixie Mattel:I don't think you have to be embarrassed it is at the end of the day reality TV and your obligation as like a cast participant is to operate from a place of honesty I don't think that's ever I don't think an audience will ever read that as bad to a fault I couldn't fake it

26:31Katya Zamolodchikova:I couldn't fake anything

26:31Trixie Mattel:I know there's rules about not talking about the program you've told me about that before so maybe that's bad maybe that's why they didn't air it

26:37Katya Zamolodchikova:after I said it I was like oh gosh I actually called or got in touch with one of the producers and Rue would because Rue is in the program she would never put that as an executive producer or she would never let that go. I don't think. And I begged them. I was like, listen, this is a huge tradition violation for this program. I'm not a representative of AA. Please do not include this. Right. You know. And they were happy to oblige that. But girl, when we, after we did that lip sync, and I, in the. Oh, why are you going to go to after the lip sync?

27:15Trixie Mattel:The way you're trying to, you're going to rip off the band-aid and I'm not doing that. So we're in deliberation. We're in the untucked. was five of you left at this point five yeah i just think it's interesting because i mean you truly you truly the challenge before top four being a sewing challenge this really was about your choice to go home you could have iced all those bitches i really think you could have you're in the right mindset you could have tore those hoes up

27:39Katya Zamolodchikova:but i wasn't though i wasn't in the right mindset i was exhausted i was i was exhausted right and

27:47Trixie Mattel:Now you're well rested. No, I mean like. Do you think you at this age would have reacted the same way? Do you think at this age I would have agreed to go on Drag Race? If it was your first time. If you were still doing drag and they asked you to do it, I think you might.

28:02Katya Zamolodchikova:No, I don't have that. I don't know because I wouldn't have anywhere near the budget. Also, if Tempest is old at 46, you would have been 42.

28:12Trixie Mattel:I would have been Mrs. Kasha Davis. Love. Yeah.

28:15Katya Zamolodchikova:I. No. I couldn't do it. But anyways, when we're in the, before we're, before the lip syncing's happening, um, of course I am listening to the, to the roar song on the way back to the hotel all like over and over and over. Cause I know it's going to happen. Um, Kennedy, it was like so funny. I was like, Kennedy, I was like, well girl, uh, just maybe don't chop all my limbs off when we're out there. Leave me my shred of dignity, please leave me my hairpiece. You know, like just put my head on the table facing out to the camera. Right. Yeah.

28:46Trixie Mattel:Say, uh, give this letter to my mother. Like you're going to die in the war.

28:50Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. Yeah. Exile is a, give them the, give them the dignity of exile.

28:55Trixie Mattel:To whom it may concern. I have a bunch of money buried in rural Massachusetts. Here's where to find it.

29:00Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. So roar starts. Dying in our sleep is a, is a luxury that our kind are rarely afforded. Yeah.

29:05Trixie Mattel:My gift to you. Did you, you didn't, so when the top bottom two was announced, you knew. And violet winning, we all knew.com.

29:13Katya Zamolodchikova:So I did not know. I, up until the very, up until the very finale in New York I was convinced she was going to work. No, I'm talking about the Hello Kitty ball. Oh, Mary. It was like She really ate it up. It was gorgeous. It was incredible.

29:28Trixie Mattel:The makeup, the styling, the hair.

29:32Katya Zamolodchikova:Creativity, beautiful. She looked like she was hosting. She looked like she was on The channel. She looked like Yeah, exactly. She looked like she was on a Galliano for Hello Kitty runway. It was wild.

29:41Trixie Mattel:Literally. It was incredible. Maybe I'll just be her in that challenge for Halloween. Good luck.

29:48Trixie Mattel:at that weight do you know what happened to me the other day I ordered a dress from a designer and I've worn their size this many times and it arrived and I was like let me just try it on I have this exact dress in pink and black and it's from the same designer so I know it'll fit but let's just try it on I didn't check the tag and they accidentally sent me a small and so I was trying it on and I thought it was the same size as all my other ones so I'm trying it on and Fina's over and you know Fina is now a toxic skinny person. So Fina is basically like, well, Bertha, you were going to need a lot of nightgames.

30:25Trixie Mattel:She was like, should we just E6000 this to your wide back? Like she was just like, you are, and I'm trying, and I put on a corset and it still won't zip. And I'm like, I have this dress in two other colors. Why is it not fitting? I know I've gained maybe 15 pounds. There's no way that this is what's happening. Should we 3D print another

30:43Katya Zamolodchikova:and then just tape it around the backside?

30:45Trixie Mattel:And Fina's like, well, wow. So supportive. Wow. Fina's like, did I mention I have not had a personal trainer? Touch this. Like, oh, whatever. So then I take it off and the tag says small. And I felt so like gooped and gagged. Vindicated. But relieved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, God. It was awful.

31:10Katya Zamolodchikova:When July arrives, we as humans can finally live up to our full potential as sun-dazed creatures who say things like, let's go kayak on the open ocean, or I can absolutely pull off a straw hat and a floral shirt. This summer, I'm dreaming about a getaway to Traverse City, Michigan, where I found a beautiful home in Lake Michigan that I booked with Airbnb. The perfect headquarters for peak lake-based summer whimsy. I want to wake up slowly, make coffee in a real kitchen, then head out for cherry pastries, pumpkin pancakes, and a heroic afternoon of pretending I actually know how to kayak. After that, maybe we can drive out to Sleeping Bear Dunes, climb an enormous sandy hill, and then stare out at Lake Michigan like we're in a fancy shampoo commercial.

31:53Katya Zamolodchikova:Then, in honor of the season, we reward ourselves with ice cream. That is what the height of summer does to me. It makes every trip feel less like a vacation and more like a golden little movie where everyone is slightly sunburned and deeply committed to snacks. All with a home base that feels like somewhere you can actually settle in. That is why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can collapse after a day in the water, a kitchen for late night sandwiches and lazy breakfasts, and enough space to feel like we are living our best summer lives, and if I'm traveling with friends, even better.

32:27Katya Zamolodchikova:We can stay together, eat dinner together, and play card games badly. And maybe that one great trip becomes three great trips. Maybe it's Traverse City now, the Outer Banks next, or a long weekend in Bar Harbor after that, eating lobster rolls and becoming emotionally attached to a lighthouse. However summer unfolds, it just feels more personal when you book through Airbnb.

32:49Trixie Mattel:Hey, I'm Ike Barinholtz. On my new show, Funny You Ask, trivia starts the conversation, and then things immediately go off the rails. I ask a question. My guests think they know the answer. Sometimes they do. More often, they do not. And then the conversation takes a turn. One trivia question turns into stories about career highs, painful bombs, and behind-the-scenes moments that probably should have remained private. You'll hear confidence, misplaced confidence, bold guesses, wrong answers, quick laughs, and the slow realization that maybe this was a bad idea to say out loud. If you like smart comedy, sharp conversations, and trivia that exists purely to melt people's brains.

33:28Trixie Mattel:This is Funny You Ask with me, Ike Barinholtz. Follow Funny You Ask with Ike Barinholtz on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. So I love the song Roar, but it's one of those songs that the first 99 times I heard it at Prides, whatever, I was like, oh, this song. And sometimes pop artists put out songs that I feel like are pandering.

33:50Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh gosh, let's see. Happy birthday, 4th of July.

33:54Trixie Mattel:Yeah, she does have every holiday. And I did. Did I tell you I saw Katy Perry? No. I went to the Katy Perry ball last month in Inglewood.

34:06Trixie Mattel:Katy Perry sent me the free tickets, her team. So I went. It was lovely. And I do love a lot of Katy Perry songs. I was. Mary, the fact that you have omitted this is flagrant. I'm sorry. It's flagrantly abusive. It was a month ago. It was July 17th I went.

34:19Katya Zamolodchikova:I haven't seen you in three months.

34:21Trixie Mattel:I know. I went to the show. I did leave about three quarters through just because to get out of Anglewood and call an Uber, you kind of just have to leave shows early. So I left a little early. And also my favorite Kitty Burr song is the one that got away and she sang a house music version so I was like, grab my purse. I was pissed. I wanted to sit there and cry. Because she does versions of it with a ballad and I love that song. And so I was like, alright. So I left. But anyway, I love Roar, but only on like the 100th listen. And when we were on Drag Race, I was not at a stage where I loved that song.

34:53Trixie Mattel:I wouldn't have wanted that song for lip sync. It's kind of a mid-tempo. The only thing is it's got a crescendo. Yes. And I don't like anything that earnest for lip sync. It might as well be like, this is me. I felt corny boots.

35:08Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. I put on my thigh-high corny boots and I had to do my little undignified wiggle.

35:14Trixie Mattel:You should have done that thing that they do on TikTok now where it's like, I'm not a stranger to the dark. And they take the concealer and write like pig on their cheeks. You should have done some shit like that. That would have been so fucking fierce. That pig. And just crying. Bald. Yeah. This is me. We go V. Whoa. Girl. What if.

35:34Katya Zamolodchikova:How about this though? How about this? Alternative. Option. I know Kennedy's going to slay. We all know that. She knows she's going to slay. She's going to pull some stunt. She's going to jump off the stage. While she's mid air pulling focus. I'm mid squat. I have ripped the seam going down the butt of my catsuit and I am blowing ass on that stage. So when she comes back up, slips, breaks her neck, I'm back in the competition.

36:02Trixie Mattel:Right. But before the fluid comes, that five and a half pound stainless steel butt plug cracks the stage. I am the tiger. Girl. And you know what else? You could have had a little fishing pole, fly fishing. Yeah. Catch Kennedy on that wig, rip that fall right off. I will say, I remember Pearl telling me after the fact that you and Kennedy really ate it up and that live, it was a really great lip sync. Um, I think I remember telling Pearl Katja said she totally ate shit and was horrible. And Pearl was like, that is not fucking true. It was like, she was really good. It was the best lip sync of the season.

36:37Katya Zamolodchikova:I mean, I think like I looking at what I do, what I can appreciate about my little, I have a beautiful cartwheel, great extension and a lovely split. Your face looks great. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't fuck with that drag race lighting. I'm sorry.

36:52Trixie Mattel:No, it's great lighting. They get the girls together. I love that song. I also don't always love when people get off the main stage in general.

36:59Katya Zamolodchikova:I thought it was like interesting because I was like, I thought it was like unnecessary. It was certainly cool.

37:05Trixie Mattel:Yeah.

37:06Katya Zamolodchikova:Ballsy and kind of like, it was kind of macho.

37:08Trixie Mattel:Well, it's crazy that you lost the lip sync to Kennedy Davenport and I haven't.

37:17Trixie Mattel:also you did you were gladys with cutting that hair off so what about it what about it Kennedy easy next easy loser it is funny that the only time I've ever won a lip sync was to one of the best lip syncers I know that's right

37:37Katya Zamolodchikova:also what was that song choice

37:40Trixie Mattel:oh for all stars well maybe if you guys liked this I would love to do all stars 2 and 3 sometime but maybe we should space them out. We don't want people gooned out too hard. Cause all stars to be really fun. Wrecking ball as a finale.

37:56Katya Zamolodchikova:I love that song and it does play all the time. It's fabulous for a finale of a lip sync. Bring a book. Right.

38:04Trixie Mattel:Who are I? I wasn't thrilled. Nobody. I remember there being two options and the other one was a hip hop song. I don't, you know, I wish it would have been, but, but wrecking ball plays all the time. and I'm always like, this is my$100 ,000 song. With no props, with no support. What are you supposed to do? Well, they told us we could have$25 to use for production a person.

38:25Katya Zamolodchikova:I swear to God. You are fucking kidding.

38:29Trixie Mattel:$25 whole dollars? That's why Shangela had that big coat on. She had a pinata in there. She was going to hit the pinata with a stick. I swear to God.

38:39Katya Zamolodchikova:They break the bank for you gals on All Stars 3.

38:43Trixie Mattel:25 whole dollars I'm dead serious I remember them saying you can use it however you want and I said however we want we can't even buy lunch with 25 dollars I said nothing I said what do we do confetti it was right after the rose petals thing so I think they were like is there a prop you might want have they never seen Lip Sync Battle a show that eats up the girls every single time you know what I should have done put the whole ball of yarn up the pussy and done the knitting the pussy knitting that's what I should have did

39:04Katya Zamolodchikova:yeah or the interior scroll Carolish team and you bring your own table got the scroll you just pull it out for sure

39:10Trixie Mattel:Abramovich just sit at a table and cry for the talent show. Yeah, and then wipe your sweaty face every once in a while. Love. So I actually think you were great in the lip sync. There's this part where Kennedy does a split and you do a cartwheel split. I got the, that was Slay.

39:24Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah, and also what I did really love that we each chose two different climax moments of the song. Yes. Do you know what I mean?

39:34Trixie Mattel:And I thought they both made sense. And Kennedy was in the split doing this thing where she's bouncing on her split and throwing the hair. I actually really love that. Yeah, I don't love that. And I liked your cartwheel split. Didn't you get scared

39:46Katya Zamolodchikova:doing it on the slippery stage? No, at that point, I was so loose. Ready to die. Yeah, I was so warmed up too. And I was, I mean, back then I was very, very flexible. You guys, she used to? Very flexible and very in shape. Very in shape. I hadn't been smoking since, well, Ginger made me smoke again. She forced you. Yeah. Ginger is the X program's

40:06Trixie Mattel:worst nightmare. Yeah. did you say it is that what she thought she's the hex program yes oh yeah that's it Kennedy and I are bonded for life and I had Thanksgiving at our house months it was so lovely she's one of the best people that's a fucking good drag queen

40:25Katya Zamolodchikova:this is your favorite sister from season seven Kennedy damn boy shut up hi Katia hi Matrixy I love you both. And I love this idea of rewatching and talking about season seven. It was a great season. And I'm so glad I got to experience it with both of you. Katya and I, I think we bonded during that season. And the best part of season seven is Katya coming up to me and saying, And if I could lip sync, if I could sit in the audience and watch you lip sync this song by yourself, I would do it. I died. And I also like the fact that I like the fact that Trixie got the opportunity to come back and fight for the crown.

41:25Katya Zamolodchikova:No shade is the truth, but I'm glad that we had the opportunity to experience season seven together. we are the divas of season seven honey and can't nobody take that away from us I love y 'all

41:39Trixie Mattel:do you hear all that talking

41:41Katya Zamolodchikova:she's oh I was like she's in Chipotle

41:44Trixie Mattel:she's in the middle of a keynote speech she at a corporate conference

41:48Katya Zamolodchikova:I would read an audio book from her yeah

41:50Trixie Mattel:very soothing you know I remember you and her being close during season seven she and I got real close during all stars but we I guess I had no friends in season seven you know

41:58Katya Zamolodchikova:you didn't you anti-social bitch yeah girl I fixed the zipper on her chicken costume. Well, I restowed, I completely restowed. You really want to fix it. You would have given her

42:07Trixie Mattel:something else to wear. I was like, the whole time I'm like, the way I would buy a Beanie Baby of that outfit, like Kennedy should do a plush of that, like a LeBubu of that look. A plush,

42:17Katya Zamolodchikova:a Halloween costume. Oh, Halloween Express. Are you kidding me? Right between like slutty pop and after a night of hooking, like, and then you could do a crystallized mask.

42:26Trixie Mattel:You should do it for Halloween.

42:28Katya Zamolodchikova:You should make it. I'm going to, I will have it mass produced in Gwangju and then I'll send her a check every once in a while. Or a dog costume.

42:36Trixie Mattel:Like a Halloween dog costume.

42:38Katya Zamolodchikova:Dog? For what?

42:39Trixie Mattel:Like a dog Halloween costume of that outfit.

42:43Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, an animal costume.

42:44Trixie Mattel:Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Oh, 100%. Although that's animal abuse. It is? Oh. Oh, in P-Town, there was two people sitting outside in front of town hall and they had a QR code and you could interact with them for money or whatever and it was to take a picture with the drag dog and there was a dog sitting there with a wig on.

43:03Trixie Mattel:it's pretty fierce

43:04Katya Zamolodchikova:I don't like it

43:05Trixie Mattel:it's pretty fierce

43:06Katya Zamolodchikova:although I love the guy at the halftime basketball show with the chihuahua

43:12Trixie Mattel:wait we didn't talk about the couple getting caught cheating either at the Coldplay concert

43:19Katya Zamolodchikova:gay?

43:19Trixie Mattel:this is like so old news now because we haven't filmed in a month gay? no a guy and a girl straight people but doesn't that happen all the time? well they were they got put on the kiss cam and they're both married to other people

43:29Katya Zamolodchikova:why would you

43:31Trixie Mattel:But they were like Holding, canoodling And then the camera happened And one of them ducked out And the guy left his job He got to leave Which I don't know Cheating doesn't make you a bad CEO I don't know if that's fair No, it does not Straight people though But cheating for straight people Is the It's the firing squad

43:44Katya Zamolodchikova:There's genocide There's homicide Then there's cheating Right No, sorry It's the opposite Yeah Yeah, it's like I don't know I hate those kiss cams I would go in a Beagle puss outfit Yeah You know, the nose And the Beagle puss you know about that it's the it's the the little the Groucho Marx kind of disguise kit

44:05Trixie Mattel:oh yeah oh do you know at some of these like hockey games and stuff they do like celebrity doppelganger cams so they'll zoom in on like they're really up in these audiences business huh I hate that if you're like bald they might zoom in and be like this is Moby I hate that and what if you get someone awful which I'm sure I would get like this is a late in life AIDS patient but that's not celebrity it's not like what affliction you look like you have this person looks fetal alcohol. No, it's a celebrity.

44:33Katya Zamolodchikova:This celebrity looks like they're dying. Oh, I see what you mean.

44:37Trixie Mattel:Yeah.

44:37Katya Zamolodchikova:They don't just read you.

44:39Trixie Mattel:Yeah. This girl looks like Gabrielle Union with a lipoma. Like, no, they don't do a disease.

44:47Katya Zamolodchikova:I don't like that, though.

44:49Trixie Mattel:So you get eliminated. Do you remember what you said to RuPaul or to the group when you left? Eh.

44:53Katya Zamolodchikova:Eh.

44:53Trixie Mattel:Oh, right. It was like a thing.

44:55Katya Zamolodchikova:It was a thing.

44:56Trixie Mattel:I remember that.

44:57Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. It was the whimpering whore from Jock's Emily.

45:01Trixie Mattel:Yes. And shout out to the top four.

45:03Katya Zamolodchikova:It's a good top four. They deserve it. And let me tell you something. I thanked my lucky stars because not only was I ready to go home, I was so glad that I did not have to take part in the rest of the season, which to me seemed extraordinarily stressful. Going the whole year not knowing. No, no, no, no, no. The finale, creating showstopping last looks. rehearsing numbers, being bullied online for not deserving your spot in the top three or four or whatever, not knowing that you made the top three until like a week before. Wait a minute. All that shit.

45:39Trixie Mattel:Wait a minute. Hold up. By the way, I just saw Thirsty Burlington. She looked gorgeous, of course. She had her long, dark hair. She came to my DJ gig and she goes, wait a minute. Love that shit. Love her so much. Can we do a little bit? Kati and I are, can we skip the finale? Is that horrible? Yeah, no, yeah. Okay. So it's Born Naked. They do this. Girl, I don't even remember what happens. Oh, no.

45:57Katya Zamolodchikova:Let's just skip that whole thing.

45:59Trixie Mattel:Who cares? We're doing this season from our point of view. I don't remember what happens. I don't either. What I'm talking about is the actual live finale. But what happens during Born Naked? They do that song Born Naked. Is it just a music video challenge? Yeah. Oh, and then they have, I think, a best drag final I deserve to win speech. Yes.

46:15Katya Zamolodchikova:So we can go down those looks. Violet goes a very unconventional route. She wears a top hat and pants. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. And I think that from a a collective like all considered point of view like as like a collection of looks the whole season it made sense I didn't care for it personally in and of itself but I felt like there was logic there that I understood it was an interesting choice

46:42Trixie Mattel:I remember loving Pearl's look that like it's like a it's like a I think a nude bustier with the big hair oh she looked gorgeous I love that fucking look huge hair beautiful she looked awesome she looked lovely in that white yeah she really did Anna Kennedy I believe did like a true like pageant special at the end

47:00Katya Zamolodchikova:was she in a rainbow something oh she was in that rainbow dress

47:04Trixie Mattel:everybody looked great they did oh yeah yeah yeah that's actually I think rainbow is hard to do I actually don't mind that I mean it's a pride number dress and it was certainly well done and it was yeah

47:14Katya Zamolodchikova:um

47:15Trixie Mattel:so then we go to the finale

47:17Katya Zamolodchikova:I love Ginger's look

47:17Trixie Mattel:I really thought I mean at this point

47:18Katya Zamolodchikova:I really did still think she was gonna win

47:20Trixie Mattel:yeah I had moved on to Violet I had started thinking Violet was gonna win By the way, since we talked last, Ginger Minj won Drag Race. Give it up for that, ho. She won$200 ,000.

47:33Katya Zamolodchikova:Cunt.

47:35Trixie Mattel:It's fierce.

47:36Katya Zamolodchikova:$200 ,000. They need to bring it up to$500 ,000. Because she probably spent$200 ,000 getting there.

47:42Trixie Mattel:I know. Anyways, congratulations. Congratulations, Ginger. I mean, it's her year. She had tried to get it a lot of times. How many? Which go around was this? Well, she did seven All-Stars. Then I think she did another All-Stars. And this is her second All-Stars. Third. Third All-Stars.

48:01Katya Zamolodchikova:Then she did Canada versus Mexico. Mexico versus Laos. Laos versus Ukraine.

48:05Trixie Mattel:She did Uranus versus Connecticut.

48:07Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah. She did the 110 versus the 405.

48:12Trixie Mattel:She did North Hollywood versus Van Nuys. RuPaul's Drag Race. Burbank and San Bernardino.

48:17Katya Zamolodchikova:Santa Monica versus Huntington Beach.

48:20Trixie Mattel:Oh, God.

48:21Katya Zamolodchikova:Very quickly, I will never forget But the day I got the call to do Canada versus the world. And I was like, what does Canada ever do to anyone? Is this a prank call? Right. The most like Switzerland versus Lichtenstein?

48:34Trixie Mattel:Yeah. Kind of strange. Very strange. Anyways. So should we just skip to the finale? Yeah. I remember coming to film it. How did you figure out what you were going to wear?

48:43Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh, I had my friend Ray make a really cool. I thought it was cool. a jumpsuit a cape that was kind of like Twin Peaks inspired like the Black Lodge and I thought it was cool I had another hair choice but at the very last second like I always do I just throw on the old Gaga girl you know what I mean and I remember filming that I had a blast such a fun time filming that live I did too yeah fun I got to tell I think I told her I wanted her pee in my mouth or something like that you did and then we met Miley Cyrus

49:16Trixie Mattel:yes oh my god this is like Eros tour Miley. It was like tongue out Miley. And then, and then what? Flew to Australia. Oh,

49:28Katya Zamolodchikova:I think we all know what happened then.

49:30Trixie Mattel:This is when Kati and I got kicked out of Australia. The next week. The next day.

49:34Katya Zamolodchikova:Next day. Yeah. But, but before that, what in the, the party in New York for the, the crowning, I'll never forget because that's when the girls debuted their music videos. The live, live, live. Yes. Yes. Now this was the real legendary event You're glossing ahead too much No no no no

49:52Trixie Mattel:Do you remember in New York in Voss Yes it's called like Studio 56 Or something okay so girl Baby when the lights went out in Studio 56

50:01Katya Zamolodchikova:I'm gonna freak out I knew the winner was Violet when the music video came out The music video was amazing When Betty came out Betty was horny I had full body chills I'm not joking I was like, I was like, I literally had produced by Tommy Lee. I literally had full body chills. I was like, I was like, this is, it's horny.

50:24Trixie Mattel:It's don't worry, darling. Oh, it's so good.

50:27Katya Zamolodchikova:And it's still kind.

50:28Trixie Mattel:It's ready. And it's like industrial club trap music is fucking fierce.

50:34Katya Zamolodchikova:And every time it was just cunt cunt pearls in it in the latex, like a maid uniform. Cunt. So fucking cunt. And then pearls was fine. And Gingers was really floppy. It was just a bunch of people in t-shirts. And then so I was like, okay, Violet's got the crown.

50:50Trixie Mattel:Yeah, so there's the crowning event, which is basically the viewing party for the finale, right? Pretty much. And the top six performs. And I had just technically been top six because of fame. So it really should have been her. Because I came back. I don't think we wanted fame. But she had lived in New York. Who cares? But I remember Violet was getting crowned, right? Hosted by Bianca. By Bianca, yeah. Violet was getting crowned on stage and then she did a number where she got I think it's Ariel's but it's a loop Lyra she gets on that and she's up in the air spinning I had already gotten out of drag and I was in the back of the hall with a card table selling t-shirts with my face on it while she was up on the loop making bank and I remember people can I say people used to make fun of me on season 7 they'd be like you're the merch queen girl you're always just you always gotta sell your shit it's like and I always will okay

51:39Katya Zamolodchikova:yeah sorry I live in a mansion and RuPaul stamped me the most richest drag queen in the world but also it just goes

51:45Trixie Mattel:to show you to me it was like I know we're all supposed to be queen boo but I don't have an assistant or help and if there's fans of mine here I'm gonna go set up this card table also and so I'm watching her up on the loop spinning while like swiping people's like cards you're doing your stripe payments they're like buying the shirts for me and I'm like look she won stealing one more cash girl there ain't no non-profit thank you I remember people just being like, girl, you're like, you always got your merch. You always trying to sell something. I'm like, as we all should.

52:13Katya Zamolodchikova:And you're wearing it.

52:14Trixie Mattel:So shut up. I remember at the time being like, what do you mean, Kasha Davis? You don't sell shot glasses. To me, I was always just like, the opportunity for merchandising seemed to be like, to me, I felt like people were making fun of it. And I was like, why aren't any of you selling things with your face on it? Your fans want you to. And if you don't, someone else will. somebody will draw a picture of you and put it on a mug and sell it why wouldn't you do it yeah and um so the finale i remember it was just a long day i remember creating to cry talking to rupaul and say thank you i just was so grateful like once you get over the season being over and it's really about the top three oh wait i remember being at rehearsal for the top i remember being at rehearsal for the finale and they told kennedy informally that she hadn't made the top three.

53:05Trixie Mattel:Do you remember this? I don't. Girl! I don't. I don't think I was there. No, we were all there. We were all... Do you remember how we would walk in? Oh, it's Sasha Bell. And she would come out and walk. Cluck the cluck and fuck the fuck. It's so-and-so. Remember we would all come out and do like a walk in the beginning of the episode from that alley? I remember we were all rehearsing it. Remember RuPaul came and rehearsed too? Real is what you feel. Or whatever. I forget what song she was doing. This was the dress rehearsal. Yes. And we were all... RuPaul was out of drag. Remember she walked in and said high whores yes they do so i remember they just came up and informally told kennedy like hey the the the numbers are in whatever you are our lovely top four and i remember feeling like i remember feeling like she's older than me and she's a pageant queen she's she's lost more times than probably any of us just that's what it takes to be a pageant queen but i remember feeling bad and feeling like i wanted to bring it up and say like good job but feeling like i don't want to overstep either.

54:05Trixie Mattel:Why the timing? I just remember it this way. Maybe it didn't happen this way, but I remember this being told to her like the day of the rehearsal. That seems cruel. Maybe I'm wrong. That seems cruel because didn't they have to prepare numbers? Yes, but I don't remember. I mean, I wasn't privy to that, but I just remember finding that out.

54:25Katya Zamolodchikova:I do know, I believe I do remember that she was told not right away.

54:31Trixie Mattel:No, I think she was told like, at the end. Which is why she didn't do numbers at the end.

54:38Katya Zamolodchikova:If she had, I should ask her if she had a costume and a number prepared. If that was the case, that's fucking cruel. Let's call her. Yeah. Call Kennedy Davenport. Let's see who she answers first. Calling Kennedy Davenport Mobile. That sounded bitchy. Calling Kennedy Davenport?

55:00Trixie Mattel:Some people... Uh-uh. Girl, what's the tea?

55:06Katya Zamolodchikova:What honor do I owe this phone, Kyle?

55:09Trixie Mattel:Well, we just listened to your voice note and we were... Oh, Katya's calling you.

55:13Katya Zamolodchikova:Wait, can I join the call? No, she is. Don't pick up. No, can I join it? Can you hear her?

55:17Trixie Mattel:Yeah, I can hear her. Wait a minute.

55:21Katya Zamolodchikova:Okay. Can you hear me, Kennedy?

55:23Trixie Mattel:Can you hear Katya?

55:24Katya Zamolodchikova:No, she can't. Yeah. Oh, you can't. Okay. So we're talking about the finale. And I hope this is not a sore subject. When did they inform you that you would not be a part of the top three? Before we came back. So wait, what is the timeline in terms of like the last episode and the live show and everything? No, no, no, no. When we left from filming. Okay. And we, you know, after we got through filming and we came home. Yeah. It was like maybe a week before we had to return. That is, that is fuck, I'm sorry, that's fucked up.

56:04Trixie Mattel:See, I, Kennedy, I remember, I thought you found out like the week before the finale or the week of, right? That's what she just said. Like the day of, day before.

56:13Katya Zamolodchikova:Y 'all can tell, that's, I mean, I don't know if y 'all remember, but I was really like in my feelings.

56:17Trixie Mattel:Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. I remember it being like just before the finale you found out, right?

56:21Katya Zamolodchikova:I think that timing is cruel. Yeah, that shit hurt like a motherfucker because remember before we left, they was like, oh, they were telling us what the four of us was going to do. That is so fucked up. That's what I mean.

56:37Trixie Mattel:I thought I remembered you almost having to prepare your finale and then not doing it.

56:43Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah, no, they was telling us to get ready because we were going to have to do a whole production and stuff, the top four of us.

56:54Trixie Mattel:And then they changed their minds.

56:58Katya Zamolodchikova:Damn.

56:58Trixie Mattel:Well, I couldn't remember the timeline.

57:02Katya Zamolodchikova:Well, that sucks. It does. That's why I tell the story every time. The only person I knew was Jasmine. And when we all went on stage to rehearse, she was like, Sister, if you want to tear this shit up right now, you can.

57:22Trixie Mattel:You should have torched the blaze. Kennedy, I had this memory of us being for rehearsals for Finale. I have this memory of us all finding out like at rehearsal because maybe you knew longer than us, but I thought you also had just found out.

57:36Katya Zamolodchikova:No, I know. I knew they told me not to say nothing. Oh.

57:41Trixie Mattel:Okay, this makes more sense.

57:43Katya Zamolodchikova:You know how they are.

57:45Trixie Mattel:Shady, horrible, gutted. Well, girl, this season was so good and you really ate. It's so good to rewatch. Thank you for the voice note. Of course I ain't heard from you in forever. I guess your number's still the same.

58:00Katya Zamolodchikova:She got turned off the phone. I'm just kidding.

58:06Trixie Mattel:Thank you. I love you so much. And I'll talk to you soon, my dear. Love you, Kennedy. Bye. A real bitch picks up the phone. Thank you. She sounds like she's still at the airport. She moved in to Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. That's a bummer. The truth is, though, they have to do the thing where audiences vote. Twitter has to go, which one do you want to pick? Don't leave it up to them

58:30Katya Zamolodchikova:rotten crabs out there in Twitter.

58:32Trixie Mattel:But doesn't Twitter pick the top three? That's why we do the...

58:39Trixie Mattel:Well, then I should have won all-stars too. No, until Kennedy got the least votes or whatever. The night the lights went out in New York City. Oh, yes.

58:49Katya Zamolodchikova:Girl, do you want to tell it? I don't want to tell it. There's a legend. Gather around, children. There's a legend. and whether it is the veracity of this story is irrelevant. Okay, like Campfire Tales.

59:02Trixie Mattel:I feel like you're the little kid at the start of Weapons being like,

59:05Katya Zamolodchikova:there's a story in our town. 2.17 a.m. Actually, it probably was around that time. So New York City, the live Voss event where we all perform and the winner is crowned live by Bianca Del Rio, which we just talked about. And there's a red carpet event. Do you remember what you were to the red carpet? I do. I loved it and I don't remember what it was.

59:23Trixie Mattel:There's this picture of me, you and Bianca together. You and her are talking and I'm in a Barbie rollerblading outfit.

59:28Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh yeah, that's when I first met our manager and I thought he was terrifying. Terrifying. The terrifier. And I got to chat with Bianca who I love so much. But yeah, I wore a black dress with a weird turban or something.

59:46Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh gosh. She's out selling merch and she's slinging her wares and it gets time to announce the winner. And what happens? The electricity in the building goes off. Three, two, one. The winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 is the lights go out. Legend has it, the huge check was Scooby-Doo swapped in a flash and And a name was scribbled out. And another one, the check was swapped. And then another name was scribbled in. Violet Chachki received the check, the winning check. I've always wanted to receive one of those big checks.

1:00:35Trixie Mattel:Like Happy Gilmore. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think those are the checks you bring to the bank, though. I would. And also, I would keep it. That'd be so fun to keep in your house.

1:00:44Katya Zamolodchikova:Of course.

1:00:45Trixie Mattel:A giant check, like Publishers Clearinghouse? It's amazing. It's incredible. Do kids today know about those commercials where someone knocks on the door and just gives you a crazy check?

1:00:53Katya Zamolodchikova:Girl, they don't know about checks. But that's not a joke. No, for real. Gen Z can't. They don't know how to check. They have to write. They have to write on that line. They have to spell out 140 ,000 and 0100. Yeah.

1:01:07Trixie Mattel:I remember in family consumer economics, which is what my high school called home ec, we had to write fake checks and balance a fake checkbook. Great. But the teacher was like, I don't care what you guys make the expenses for. Have fun with it. in the memo, put whatever you want. And I remember Mariana, my partner in the class, her check said, the memo said, my nasty pussy. And we were like high schoolers. I was like, holy shit, girl. How much was it though? I remember, I remember everybody thinks they're being edgy, like break control, whatever. And she was like, my nasty pussy. At a small school in Wisconsin.

1:01:42Trixie Mattel:My tissues, my ass, my cuckuck. It's fierce. Love that. But you know, I guess now that we're done with Seven. I really did love the season and I will say at the time had the audience hating it so much was surprising to me but re-watching it it has issues. The season of Drag Race has issues. It has entertainment value issues. Of course it does. And it follows it's following Six which is incredible. I know. And after it is All Stars 2 which is incredible. And Eight is so good. Kim and Bob and Naomi's season is so good. Ah. I think. Yes. The only thing - The Madonna runway with nine kimonos? Live for that shit.

1:02:21Trixie Mattel:Oh, I know. That is so funny. Madonna noted Asian artist love.

1:02:26Katya Zamolodchikova:Everybody literally thought the same basic thing. I'm going to be different and lazy.

1:02:32Trixie Mattel:But like - Can we get Bob in the Amazon bodysuit on the rollerblades? I know. Can we get Bob in the Boy Scout uniform?

1:02:38Katya Zamolodchikova:You know what? Fierce. The thing about season eight, it was boring for me because I knew he was going to win.

1:02:43Trixie Mattel:He was so good.

1:02:44Katya Zamolodchikova:It was so good. It was like, where's the tension? There was none.

1:02:46Trixie Mattel:I was such a Kim she like stan and still still am I was rooting for that hotel last second I was I was rooting for her to learn how to walk she is

1:02:55Katya Zamolodchikova:but she is so I mean the looks so good on that show and Naomi I mean Kim was like literally walking art every time every time on a budget that was her first season of a drag race yeah and that's that's the that's the cunty part because it's not the all stars rich girls this is like pure creativity yeah yeah it's fierce like my Hello Kitty look like your Hello Kitty look you know I had no money, just pure genius.

1:03:18Trixie Mattel:Do you have any main overarching, like, I remember having this moment at the finale where I got to, RuPaul did this thing to all of us where he goes, is there anything else you want to say, basically? And RuPaul was really looking in my eyes. And I remember just saying thank you. Yeah, and you almost cried. It was so important to me that I had one moment to just express gratitude. And I'm sure for RuPaul, because of Drag Race, she hears thank you from young cross-dressers constantly. And so it's just probably -

1:03:45Katya Zamolodchikova:But I mean, I needed to say it. Season seven, though. It wasn't like there's been 25 seasons.

1:03:51Trixie Mattel:Yeah.

1:03:51Katya Zamolodchikova:This was still kind of early.

1:03:53Trixie Mattel:I think she, well, I know she still had a good time. Yeah. I just, to this day, rewatching it reminded me of like the gratitude. Yeah. I felt like make a wish level like, well, not make a wish. I felt like I'd made a wish. Yeah. I felt so lucky to be involved and so grateful. and I just kept thinking at what point do I get an opportunity to tell RuPaul this

1:04:18Katya Zamolodchikova:I feel the same way I'll never forget she says you are a freak and I freaking love you inside I like exploded I was like okay that's all I ever need to hear for the rest of my life I'm good

1:04:32Trixie Mattel:I'm a RuPaul stan I always will be Drag Race made me more of a stan and the older I get in drag the more longer I do drag the more I am in awe of RuPaul doing it this long.

1:04:44Katya Zamolodchikova:Every interaction with her has been very, very, very, very special with me. There have been very few of them. It's that and then her flipping me off from the restaurant window.

1:04:52Trixie Mattel:Do you ever hear my Lights Out story with RuPaul? Did she touch you? No. I was a guest on like season 11, I think, for a mini challenge. In the car? No, no, no. Oh, that was also awesome. Jump scare. That was also awesome. Also, in the script, there was no slap and RuPaul was like, can I slap her? And I was like, Can I slit her throat? Like something about me. She was like, I'm going to hit this bitch. But I came in for some kind of mini challenge. And RuPaul and I were in the workroom alone. And she fingered me. No, the lights went out in the studio. That happened during Hello Kitty, by the way.

1:05:31Trixie Mattel:Oh, it did? Yeah, the air conditioning. Oh, fierce. So that happened to us on All Stars too. But I was sitting and, you know, when you're not competing on Drag Race, and it's the thing where RuPaul's using you for a walkthrough. Have you ever done that? Yeah. Yeah, it's way more informal. Oh, it's fabulous. So RuPaul and I are sitting there in the dark and they're waiting to fix it. She's in her suit and I'm in my drag. And it was like my dream. Undiluted one-on-one time off camera. And she knows about us, but obviously isn't privy, like so privy. So she's asking about you and I, she's asking about music, she's asking about managers, like basically asking a working drag queen, I felt like, what is your career?

1:06:12Trixie Mattel:Like, what are you doing? And I had this opportunity to sit in the dark and talk to her, which is very high intimacy, to just sit in the dark with RuPaul's voice in the dark workroom. Chilling. Very chilling. Kind of like on the news when they say bye and they just dim the studio lights. It was like that.

1:06:28Katya Zamolodchikova:That's fucking pig shit.

1:06:29Trixie Mattel:Yeah. I know. I love that shit. Thank God for the studio, the lights going out, because it was very... That's special. And RuPaul said, who owns your music? And I said, I do. And she said, outright. I said, yeah. she said that's really important count that as much as you can I remember anytime you get somebody like RuPaul to give you real wisdom you file it

1:06:49Katya Zamolodchikova:I sent her a flurry of tweaker tweets once and she was like the DMs? oh yeah on Twitter I guess she follows me on Twitter and then I've told you this a million times basically it was like I love you so much and she's like you're so welcome would now with love and respect get your ass to a meeting. This was after the All-Stars 2 finale.

1:07:14Trixie Mattel:Yes, it must have been. And you showed up as a burn victim.

1:07:15Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was high on weed. Why were you a burn victim? We'll get there. Oh, I just thought it was cool. That's all. It wasn't any deep thing. Oh, I won Miss Congeniality and Ben Delacromo can suck it because I got cash and she got some stupid gift certificates.

1:07:31Trixie Mattel:She got an overstock.com gift certificate and you got$5 ,000 cash. Also, do you remember when RuPaul was about to announce the winner and called you.

1:07:39Katya Zamolodchikova:Oh my God, the Golden Girls fake out. Yeah. So there, oh Jesus Christ, I can't, I'm sorry, I didn't rewatch this. Because everybody, I, so they were not prepared for the fan reaction for me. Like they just, and nobody was, it didn't make any sense. I'm still not. I don't see it. You suck. No, but like they, like the idea that Kati was robbed was not on the table at all. Not in the room. No, no, gosh, no, no, no, no. But because I was, you so much. of a childhood. Yeah. Robbed of a challenge win. Or like, you know, I used so much in the confessionals, whatever, that I was liked a lot. And it wasn't, Miss Congeniality was like, what do you call it when they're just like...

1:08:21Katya Zamolodchikova:Like a fan favorite. That's it. That's it. That's it. Theron was like, hey, we want to do this gag. And I didn't know the reference and I actually still don't.

1:08:31Trixie Mattel:I don't either.

1:08:31Katya Zamolodchikova:It's a Golden Girls reference, I suppose, I guess. And it's like a fake out. and I remember the audience going nuts and Violet being like, what the fuck? Oh, she had her crossbow.

1:08:43Trixie Mattel:Oh yeah, she was ready to kick. She was like, and if Violet has a crossbow, Ginger has a bomb. Yeah, and Daryl has a flamethrower up her ass. Right.

1:08:52Katya Zamolodchikova:She's got a jet pack on. Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. Now you can say 50 pounds per person. Wait, that thing you sent me about different, the 6 ,000 pounds American versus UK? It's fierce. I thought of you first These fucking fat porkers

1:09:08Trixie Mattel:Watch as these porkers Discharge their lives Yeah, it's fierce Wait, wait, wait

1:09:13Katya Zamolodchikova:So I go give her A glass of water A drink of water It was very fun I felt very honored And that's it

1:09:19Trixie Mattel:I didn't even know About that gag It made me laugh I gotta show this to you I keep getting Sylvia Brown shit And I have to show it to you Girl, by the way Where's your wigs? She sure does I'm surprised to see My father's brother Disappeared about 20 something years ago The whole family has no idea whether he's alive or dead. He drowned. He drowned. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. Wait. Sorry. By the way, unwilling to elaborate, he drowned. We got to go. We got to go. Thank you all so much. Is there anything else you want to say about season seven?

1:09:51Katya Zamolodchikova:Streaming on Paramount and Peacock or whatever. Did you have any overarching thoughts about... I was so mad. I was so mad. It's not even a question. I just... I'm a good... I think I'm talented. I think I'm interesting. But girl, she was, she was Midi Van Driver.

1:10:08Trixie Mattel:It just, the whole thing made me recall the fear.

1:10:11Katya Zamolodchikova:Yeah.

1:10:11Trixie Mattel:I don't feel afraid to be on TV now. No. During season seven, I was scared all the time, all day.

1:10:17Katya Zamolodchikova:That's what I'm telling you. I think that I actually had, I felt at the end, I was like, my nervous system couldn't take it anymore. Right. Look, when we had to line up for the maxi challenge, I, I was like, I was, every time I felt I was going to vomit. Every time. Yeah. And I just, the only time I didn't was when John Waters, when they said ugliest dress was the category, I finally relaxed. The only time. I understand why. I gotta put some more shampoo on my TikTok hair.

1:10:45Trixie Mattel:All right. Okay. Well, thank you guys for doing that. If you ever want us to do All Stars 2 and 3, I think we should. I think we should.

1:10:50Katya Zamolodchikova:I think we should swap back and forth though. What do you mean? Like one episode, All Stars 2, one episode, All Stars 3. Go back and forth. You think? I kind of want to. Because then, because we weren't, we need to, I don't know it's a lot to cover yeah but then you I get to get like kind of be at the helm then you we kind of switch off that doesn't make sense to you

1:11:09Trixie Mattel:maybe it doesn't make sense we can do whatever we want this isn't the fucking pit stop Joe Gervino doesn't control me anymore fuck you Joe okay okay

1:11:19Katya Zamolodchikova:I hope you guys enjoyed this if you didn't fuck off alright bye bye

1:11:53Katya Zamolodchikova:We'll see you next time.