In short
Trixie and Katya riff on death and burial practices (shoes/clothes in coffins, carbon footprint, donating bodies to science, cremation), then pivot to horror TV/movies (Speak No Evil, Welcome to Derry/It), and more casual chaos (dog ownership, beach/ocean mishaps, fame/viral culture, YouTube creator business training, and “swatting” risks). They also discuss sexual health and current TV/streaming culture while trading explicit jokes.
Guests
Trixie and Katya (the hosts). No additional guests are named in the transcript.
Key claims
Visiting graves can worsen grief; cremation is “practical” and less wasteful; Speak No Evil escalates from politeness to sadistic violence; Welcome to Derry’s horror is tied to trauma cycles and adult denial; viral fame can happen via memes or content houses; streamers face real danger because stalkers can know addresses.
Notable examples
Speak No Evil (Danish vs James McAvoy remake), Welcome to Derry (Pennywise comparisons: Bill Skarsgård vs Tim Curry), “swatting” of streamers, Hawaii Royal Hawaiian breakfast, and YouTube “in a day” creator training.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThoughts on Death and Burial Practices
0:33 to 1:06
The hosts discuss their views on death, burial practices, and the societal norms surrounding them.
“How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink?”
Thoughts on Death and Burial Practices
1:24 to 4:05
The hosts discuss their views on death, burial practices, and the societal norms surrounding them.
“Why would anyone want to steal a dead naked body?”
The Impact of Cemetery Culture
4:05 to 6:46
Trixie and Katya reflect on the culture of cemeteries and their personal experiences with grief.
“it's not horrible it's very practical I think that this cemetery industrial complex really needs a reorg and a refresh and a re come to Jesus literally.”
Exploring Disturbing Movies
6:46 to 9:52
The hosts discuss various disturbing films, including remakes and original versions, highlighting their emotional impact.
“And my first thought was, oh my God, to turn on the TV and lay on the floor with this dog, hang out with the dog on the floor.”
Cultural Commentary on Horror
9:52 to 14:01
Trixie and Katya analyze Stephen King's work and the themes of horror films in culture.
“I mean, if you're trying to avoid Tim Allen, what else do you have?”
Discussion on Pennywise and Horror Elements
14:01 to 22:59
The hosts discuss the portrayal of Pennywise in different adaptations and share their thoughts on horror elements in the series.
“Your dead friend being in the movie and then looking right at you.”
Discussion on Pennywise and Horror Elements
24:22 to 26:34
The hosts discuss the portrayal of Pennywise in different adaptations and share their thoughts on horror elements in the series.
“a little headquarters for a few days of warm weather intervention.”
Travel Experiences and Hawaiian Cuisine
27:26 to 28:00
The hosts share their travel experiences in Hawaii, focusing on food and memorable moments.
“Disney and Pixar's Hoppers is now available on Disney+.”
Tropical Delights: A Hawaiian Experience
28:00 to 29:59
Learn about the hosts' enjoyable experiences and favorite dishes in Hawaii.
“Did you get those pancakes I told you to get?”
Sand and Shower Mishaps
30:00 to 31:59
Discover funny and surprising stories about encounters with sand at the beach.
“I had to go get the two room key cards and create a shovel.”
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Confrontation with a Beachgoer
32:00 to 34:20
Hear about a humorous conflict with a woman on the beach and the ensuing banter.
“I'm not really into the McKayleys and the McNavys and the McBaileys and all that stuff.”
The Nature of Fame
34:21 to 36:59
Explore the hosts' thoughts on fame and the perception of celebrities in today's society.
“Well, I'm always like, oh, they thought I was Guy Branum or something.”
YouTube and Content Creation
37:00 to 39:25
Learn about the hosts’ experiences and insights on being YouTube creators.
“And then there was giant companies that have a hundred plus employees that are technically YouTube channels.”
Navigating Fame and Relatability
39:26 to 42:00
Discuss the challenges of maintaining relatability while experiencing success.
“It wasn't corporate Aaron because it wasn't word salad.”
Navigating Relatability in Changing Lifestyles
42:00 to 43:14
Learn how to maintain authenticity while dealing with lifestyle changes.
“How do you, how do you maintain relatability while your lifestyle dramatically changes?”
The Dangers of Being a Public Figure
43:14 to 44:26
Explore the risks associated with being a streamer and public figure.
“I would rather just do the Gallagher thing and break watermelons.”
Transcript
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1:23Well, here we are. Why would anyone want to steal a dead naked body?
1:31Trixie Mattel:I, can I say something? I think he's a great icebreaker. I'm not promoting grave robbing. I know this is right off the top of the episode, but I'm saying, can I tell you something? This is some real country shit. I've been thinking a lot about death lately, right? Me too. Me too. I've been having waves of unwellness that make me constantly think about death. Okay, Jesus Christ. And I remember my stepdad's funeral, right? On top of the confusion of being young and having a paternal figure die. Yeah. Right. Country people, we're dealing with a burial. And we're so country, not all of us have a full dress outfit.
2:03Trixie Mattel:You got to shovel it yourself? No. The day of the funeral, my mom said, we need your dress shoes for your stepdad's body. And I remember standing at the coffin and thinking, why are we burying people in shoes? Waste of resources. And then it would go, why are we burying people? Why are we burying them in clothes? Why are we burying pharaohs in gold and jewels? I just think with the burying, it's sort of the blue light turning on at Kmart or whatever. It's a little salesy. It's boo-boo. We should just do it the most, what do you call it? Smallest effect on the footprint, carbon footprint, smallest footprint, and most affordable to the people.
2:45Trixie Mattel:Right? I got true. Well, if you really loved your father, you'd go for the mahogany. You know, like that's crazy, right? Upselling coffins, Mary, that is diabolical. I have three solutions to this quandary. What is it? Number one, slingshot into space. I knew you were going to say shoot into space. But we talked about smallest carbon footprint. That's the biggest one. Okay. So number one is really donate to science. Cadavers for medical students. That's what I plan on doing. They're going to get a lot of boners, but that's not my problem. They're going to leave with more questions than they got answers.
3:13How did she live this long? So there's all black liquid inside and no organs. What's that? It's a Diet Coke can. What is that? Are the lungs made of glass? Is this barbed wire? And then the last one is just cremation. Right. But then you got to rub cream all over someone.
3:35Trixie Mattel:Cremation. Cremation. I don't mean to be too morbid, but it really made me think about - That's very funny. Unless your mom loved those earrings. But even then - keep them keep them and then you have your mom's earrings yes don't put your shoes on your dad very naked if anything Mary how are you going to sell those loafers when you need to get a dime bag later on right if I get buried just put a bikini put my naked body in the hole and then throw dirt on it I know it's kind of unceremonious but like why are we wasting shit is that horrible it's not horrible it's very practical I think that this cemetery industrial complex really needs a reorg and a refresh and a re come to Jesus literally.
4:15Right. You know, I think about that a lot. I think about those mausoleums. Girl, what's inside there? A rave? Is it a secret entrance to like a factory party?
4:23Trixie Mattel:Have you ever been to like Hollywood's Forever Cemetery? Of course. It's just these, I mean, hallways, liminal spaces with names. Huge. Up the wall. Huge. Nothing. Pissing contests, by the way. Why are you so special that you need to be rotting in a box in a high rise? Yeah. We got little Miss Plack down here, overgrown shrubs. Right. Can't even see her name. And then we've got the fucking Taj Mahal with like John Jay Guggenheimer or whatever the hell. Jingleheimer Schmidt. Thank you. It's like, okay, so what? Right. Does that make my grief as the daughter of this man, does that soften my grief?
4:57Or does it, maybe it gives me a place to go and do what? Cry, have sex, vandalize? It's stupid. In my experience, visiting someone's grave makes me feel worse. You can visit their memory anytime in your mind, palace. Right. in my palace. No, but I'm not. Come on, Cream Nation. Cream Nation. Cream Nation. Cream Nation. Cream Nation. Yeah. We are the son of the Cream Nation. What the fuck is that? The thing is - We've got orcs again.
5:28Trixie Mattel:Bringing dogs to work isn't always the best thing. No, that's why I keep my child at home. Right. My dog is my child. My child is in my hot car. I don't have a dog, but if I did, I think I would be somebody who just have it all the time. I know it's irritating, but people have children. What would you have? Whatever I can get. Shh. Well, I feel like I'd be good into the, I would rescue and I would be so uppity about it. No, no, no. Sober people get sober and then it's all they talk about. I would rescue. And the way every conversation would get shoehorned into rescuing. And your dog would be a two-legged dog rescued from Vietnam.
6:06Right. Or some like - Two-legged. Guantanamo. One-legged. One-legged. Yeah, one-legged, no eyes. It would be like the, yeah. But it would be happy. So happy to have you as its doting parent.
6:17Trixie Mattel:Wear like a crossbody. No, say I have a gun to your head and you, like we're going to a breeder, bitch. No questions asked. What breed are you choosing? Oh, I mean, at the risk of sounding crazy, I think you got to go really big or really small. We were just in, where were we? Hawaii. Hawaii. Yeah. And we saw those giant dogs. That was pretty cool. What kind of dogs are those? That was a horse. Those were horses. Mastiff? It's Marmaduke. Great Danes or Mastiffs? Those were horses. Marmaduke is that cartoon. That was a Clydesdale. And my first thought was, oh my God, to turn on the TV and lay on the floor with this dog, hang out with the dog on the floor.
6:58Trixie Mattel:Suffocated to death? I don't think I'd ever invite dogs on furniture, but I would love to hang on the floor with the dog. Rub the belly. You're such a good boy. Of course. And it's also like if you're a petite, big titted woman with a wet t-shirt walking your dog, safety. Or I would get the tiniest dog. I would get one of those truly like cotton balls with a little face. Okay. That's hanging out of your little boo-boo purse. 100%. Run the body all day. I saw a guy at the airport today. He got off the plane from Hawaii. I need a backpack with a dog's head just sticking out the top. I do love that.
7:27Trixie Mattel:And I thought the dog's probably happy. Yeah. I love it when the women have it at the checkout line in the grocery store and they're clearly drunk. Sure. Oh, get into this. a friend of mine, we were in Palm Springs, a friend of mine was like, let's stop at the grocery store and get wine. Or have to get cheese and crackers. They don't think we're drunks. Have you heard of that? Getting a charcuterie just as a cover? That's too, people don't care. Come on. Some people just say, baby, it's noon. I know. How many packs of crackers you can buy? Baby, it's noon. Also, Palm Springs, the old days, noon is five.
7:55Trixie Mattel:They've been up since six a.m. It's one o 'clock somewhere. 100%. Yeah. But I would, oh, Mary, talk about death. Oh, let's talk about it. I watched a movie so disturbing so you know a while ago they did a a remake Speak No Evil it's called with James McAvoy it was a horror movie about I love James McAvoy oh and he's jacked in this he's jacked in Split too yeah big stroke in Glass big stroke at material anyways it's a remake would I do him right Cream Nation right he is quite gorgeous and my god what an actor exactly I watched Split and Glass last week Mama, he would split me into my glass coffee table.
8:35Trixie Mattel:Having these entire conversations with himself as different characters. Yeah. I listen to this pod and I'm like, I can't even do my own voice. I'm like, what are you doing? I know I get accused for ads like Vincent Price. I'm like, I can't do that. Or like, I'm like, I'll just do the weird one. And also not just the voice, but believing the character and switching back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild. Wild. I'm going to do drag 17 years and I can barely do a character that I invented. Thank you. I've been doing drag 25 years and I can't walk in a heel. Right. That's true. But so this, so this speak no evil, speak no evil.
9:08I remember the commercials. Mary, we saw the trailers in theaters. We saw these eight minute trailers that showed the entire fucking movie. I swear to God, but it's a remake of a Danish film of the same name. And let me tell you something about that movie. Spoiler alert, dear listeners on the four or five and the one 10. This is so, it's so, I did see this movie. It's so fucking sad. It's very like Swita, right?
9:34Trixie Mattel:Mama. She's trying to escape in the end of the car, right? It was so, I was like, I heard, I was like, oh, this is, the Danish version is so much like crazier. And I'm like, oh, let's check. I was like, let's check it out. And I was like, last year I watched three Christmas movies. That, The Color Purple, and Fried Green Tomatoes. Classic holiday films. I mean, if you're trying to avoid Tim Allen, what else do you have? Do you know what I mean? the Tim Allen Christmas industrial complex is deep and vicious but it was crazy it was like it was so girl they just kept pelting James McAvoy's mentally ill he used to be no no no no no this is the Danish one the Danish one it's fucked it's fucked up it's fucked did you watch that one?
10:14it's in Danish I think I watched the James McAvoy one? yes oh no that's the one I watched no that's the remake this is the original what is it called again?
10:23Trixie Mattel:Speak No Evil okay yes I remember looking up the movie and being like this is so fucked I went on Wikipedia and that's how I found out it's a remake of a Danish, but I didn't see the original. Are you talking about the original? I'm talking about the original. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So like, you know how the little boy goes and he shows that his tongue has been cut off. Well, fast forward. It's all about this couple that can't say no. They're too nice. They're too. It's all about like this, this sadistic fucking evil couple taking advantage of these polite families who just can't like, they're like, oh, I do remember this now.
10:56Yes, yes, yes. But this escalates. And towards the end, they go back. There's flirting. Well, they go back because the little girl needs her bunny. Oh, I remember. I'm like, mama.
11:06Trixie Mattel:Girl. The way that. That's like running into the house. The child runs into the house for their animal or something. Yeah, for their little boo-boo. Let them burn. I was like, this whole plot, the whole thing got rolling by the dad looking for a bunny. And then they met this couple, whatever. So the bunny is like, I was just like, fuck this fucking bunny. you're about to get pelted with rocks naked until you're dead bitch right fuck the bunny fuck the bunny oh it was so sad and frustrating and horrible well it's hard for me to turn on the TV for anything for any reason but I am watching welcome to dairy new episode last night I didn't see it but I saw that chomp chomp chomp come to mama the first episode was bracing because spoilers they really introduce you to a bunch of characters kids and they make you feel like oh this is you know, I love Stephen King and they were like, okay, this is our losers club of 1962.
11:57Trixie Mattel:This is the, this is the kids we're going to follow. We're getting introduced their dad, their family dynamics, all that. Most of them die in the end of the first episode. And you're left being like, oh shit, this is, don't forget, this is a story about a child killer who is still on the prowl decades later. So we know that this is going to be kind of a ran through bloodshed ran through bloodshed incident. Yeah. And the, the velocity and the bravery to kill children is something only Stephen King really does. Um, the beginning of Salem's lot starts with two kids dying, two kids dying, pet cemetery, cemetery, gauge dying.
12:38Trixie Mattel:My God. I think it's because he knows like there's kind of nothing more universally, universally abhorrent than children getting killed. Baby. Have you seen the butterfly effect with Miss Ashton Kutcher? Yes. Long time ago. I read the Wikipedia. dogs burning alive, people getting arms chopped off, babies and moms, firecrackers exploding in their heads and dying. I read the, I thought this was a lighthearted like rom-com kind of like Gwyneth Paltrow sliding doors. Like what if, oh, it's morbidly graphically sad and crazy. It's sad. And then at the end, I believe he walks by this woman and doesn't introduce himself because that things will happen.
13:15Yeah. Sad.
13:16Trixie Mattel:Horrible. I was like, I read the plot and I was like, huh? Eh? Huh? I want to watch it. Oh yeah. But I did see the clip of the, I can't see the dog getting caught on fire. Cause you know, your dog, but I did see the child in the mom open the mailbox and yeah, that's tough. It's crazy. I wonder with welcome to dairy. Cause you know, like people love Pennywise and all of the movies have featured Pennywise as kind of like Pennywise's base self is a clown. Yeah. but in the book which I've read two and a half times now there's the entity of it is like it changes according to known to be from space oh known to be like it has no real form because it changes forms all the time right and so I wonder if people watching it I'm at four episodes in I wonder if people watching it are like where's my goddamn clown I think they are that's what they're saying yeah but they're also I think they're welcoming this new I mean really grisly cool format because in the book and in the movie most of the time Pennywise is matching your freak of whatever you're scared of stuff he's a streetwalker right he's showing them titties no he's not showing the titties the first episode was really sick when the girl eating the liver put her fingers up to the kid's face that was disgusting what about the pickles the pickles were crazy and sick the scariest part of it for me was the part where they go to the movie theater in the first episode and they're trying to see what happened to Maddie and they're watching the music man and then he's in it.
14:48Trixie Mattel:Your dead friend being in the movie and then looking right at you. It's an immediate no. You leave the theater. They're all trying to talk to him. You go to the box office. You get your money back. You get your 25 cents back. Some great child actors though. Child actors can make or break it and they're all turning it out. Mary, I'm telling you, as the entertainment czar of the United States and the world, I'm going to lift my embargo on child actors just for this series and a few others. This main actress, I forget her character, Lily, every time she cries, I cry. What a great crier. Yeah. Look at this.
15:17Trixie Mattel:Olipop ginger ale. I know. I forgot to mention, but while I just, I have been enjoying some really refreshing gulps of this incredible drink. What is this again? Crisp apple. Ooh. It's good for our digestive health. But with it, I wanted to ask you with Pennywise, do you prefer Bill Skarsgård versus, or in a cage match, Bill Skarsgård versus Tim Curry? Oh God, I don't know. Because I love how faggoty and fun Tim Curry is. And I think he's also scary. He's like a Freddy Krueger. I think that the Skarsgård take is playing him more like a child like he's trying even the face of Pennywise they make him look like he has like full cheeks like a kid he's like the Gerber baby he talks like a kid yeah his mouth is like a kid's mouth I just don't like all the I don't like the wardrobe and I feel like I feel like Tim Curry played it more like a pedophile a kid killer he played it like like a dirty old man yeah but also he was like hey fat boy right you know something they like talk about more in this series, which I do like is it's in 62.
16:15Trixie Mattel:So obviously like race is a big part of it. It reminds me of Watchmen. Yeah. Because the guy who plays Will Hanlon is the guy who plays young hooded justice and Watchmen. Same guy. Same guy. HBO. Hulu. Listen, it's not cable. It's HBO. And this is not on HBO. The director. I thought it was on Apple Plus. What's the director's name? Something. Ron Perlman. No. him and his sister Andy Muschietti is that right?
16:52Trixie Mattel:She knows her directors Andy Muschietti who did the movies and his sister is the producer I saw two last names and I just assumed husband wife and I looked it up and they're from Derry? No they're from Argentina Oh Argentina Argentina is a what did I say? Argentina which is fun Argentina that's fun Argentina is a hotbed of nasty unrelenting horror films remember that one we watched in my house when evil lurks oh love that shit god that was fucking horrible you moved a rotten loved it I thought that was so depressing it was awesome when the little girl gets killed by the dog and then also the car yeah love that but I guess what I like about the series so far is like one of the other big things about it is the influence it has over the city as a whole, how the adults don't really notice or care that much the kids die.
17:48Trixie Mattel:Don't believe the kids. And then as soon as one of those cycles is over, dairy just like kind of forgets about it, which is obviously like trauma. People bury their shit, but I love it. I can't, I don't know how many episodes there are. We're four episodes in I'm excited, but I love Stephen King and sometimes people watch stuff mad. Yeah. People love drag race. Fucking hate it. Do you know what I mean? I do. I don't have, of course I know exactly what you mean. Cause I wish you were at this viewing party. I was at because for what drag race. It was a while ago, bunch of gay people. Why were you doing it?
18:18Trixie Mattel:A viewing party? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. It wasn't a formal viewing party. It was just a bunch of gay people watching. Oh, I thought you like wanted to feel famous and you went down to West Hollywood and sat and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. This was like 12 gay men watching drag race. It was the episode where Lala rewore the gift bags, Mary, the bitch, not even bitch. Vitriol doesn't even come close. The invectives we were hurling at the screen, the slurs, the slanders. It was like we were wanting to kill all gay in drag. It was so crazy. I think the first brick of that falling was Amazon Prime because every faggot was watching Drag Race being like, I can get a wig by Tuesday.
18:58Trixie Mattel:I could let all these hoes have it. But the truth is owning a wig, owning a car doesn't mean you can drive. Case in point. You know what I mean? I wish, I wish, I wish I'll be an earshot when I heard some faggot say like I could do that because my head would turn. Like the exorcist. You wouldn't even turn your body. It would be very Pennywise. Balloons would float out. You know what I mean? They would start to smell popcorn. I just, I mean, people who love things hate them. And I love The Sims. People who love The Sims hate The Sims. People who love Drag Race do nothing but hate on Drag Race. and people who love Stephen King will watch every iteration of it, but have problems with all of it.
19:39Yeah. I mean, I think there's a, there's a, somebody called me a hater the other day online and I took, I was like, I cried. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. But I was like, I was like, Oh shoot. I don't want to be a hater. I wouldn't be. I'd like being a critic. I like being critically evaluative about stuff. I like, you know, discussing things and like thinking about them and talking about them, but I'm critiquing them. But I've been watching All's Fair. And now this is a show that defies description, critique, and evaluation.
20:11Trixie Mattel:Right. Because it's— Why are you watching this? Because it's—have you ever seen a train track—like an old-timey train accident with all the cars get piled up and huge plumes of smoke and people dying everywhere? That's kind of what this is in a way. it's like a version of television that it's so bad but in such it's such a particular way like it's I don't know how to describe it really well first of all Niecy Nash who's carrying the show on her shoulders her name is Emerald Green and I think that is so great right Naomi Watts is trying to find some kind of character she's wearing capes that's as far as she's getting is this a Ryan Murphy thing?
20:56yeah absolutely okay Sarah Paulson is every word out of her mouth is a is an over the top filthy insult that was written by like the nastiest 16 year old gay guy. Like, hey, jizz face. I see you took time out of belching your grandma to come to the office today. You big, fat fucking shit wad. I mean, literally like that. And then Kim Kardashian is there. with thong out at the office, at the firm. Swing it big. And starring in this vehicle, she looks exquisite. Like her hair and makeup or her makeup, some of the hair is weird, is so beautiful. And then you hear the words and the delivery and the dialogue and you're like, wow.
21:46This is giving Gal Gadot a run for her money in a way. But it's so glossy and it's so splashy and it's so colorful. I don't know. It's a very interesting cultural moment. It got a zero on Rotten Tomatoes, and yet it's one of Hulu's biggest hits.
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22:02Trixie Mattel:That's what I mean. Somebody yesterday was like, are you going to watch it? I said, why would I watch it? It looks bad. And they said, because all the gays are watching it. I said, that's not enough to convince me. No, I don't like that. That's not enough to convince me. All the gays were wearing chokers for a while. And I didn't do that. All the gays have cock rings in RNG. Everyone's in a cock cage. Everyone's cucked. Wait, I never actually - I never asked you about how your Locktober went. Oh, you know, it is good, but the problem is they don't tell you. You got to trim your pubes because the roughage starts to grow in around the metal.
22:34Trixie Mattel:And then it's kind of like a trellis on the side of a house. Yeah. A vertical garden. Right. Yeah. And then every time I had a boner, I lost a full row of pubes. And those guys are hard to grow back. Yeah. That's why you get the Kim Kardashian Merkin panty. You know what? I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. Lock your dick up. Do it. Lock your dick and balls up. Mama, lock your asshole up. Do it today.
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24:48Trixie Mattel:a little headquarters for a few days of warm weather intervention. I want to wake up slowly, make a little bit of tea in an actual kitchen, and wander through the rolling hillsides buying some chunky jewelry and maybe a cool piece of wall art with a bit of seasonal motif. And after that, I'll be ready for a little trip to Solvang for Danishes, smorgasbords, and that kind of Danish village charm that makes one briefly consider buying wooden clogs. That is what the beginning of summer does to me. It makes travel feel less like an escape and more like a grand seasonal awakening. Suddenly, I need fresh air, open windows, and a home base that feels like a real place to set out from.
25:26Trixie Mattel:That's why I love booking stays on Airbnb. I want a living room where everyone can sprawl out after a long day in the sun. I want a kitchen for late night snacks and lazy breakfast. And I want enough space to actually feel settled instead of just stacking my luggage in a hotel room. And if I'm traveling with friends, even better. We can stay together, eat dinner together, and we can collectively pretend we're the kind of people who do not forget sunscreen. And of course, once June begins, one trip becomes three imaginary trips. Maybe it's the Santa Ynez Valley now, Yosemite National Park next, a long weekend in Santa Fe after that.
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28:06How did you love Hawaii? I liked it a lot. I had one day. Did you get those pancakes I told you to get? Baby, I went to that. Fina and I went to that motherfucking pink hotel. The breakfast. And that breakfast, I wanted it. I was like, do I eat it or I shove it up my fucking ass?
28:28Trixie Mattel:The Royal Hawaiian, that breakfast was. I went two days in a row. Barbara. shout out to Barbara that waitress she was Tisha she I got the bread pudding French toast each time because I couldn't say no yeah it was first day I got some kind of the pancake special I got a burrito thing and the next time I got the pink pancakes how were those were probably the best pancakes I've ever had this was the best bread pudding French toast at a pink palace I have ever enjoyed in my life it was so delicious and I jumped in the ocean the water was so warm ocean water that's so warm even in like Santa Monica in the summer, the water's not that hot.
29:03Trixie Mattel:That Hawaii water was hot. Well, it wasn't hot. Thailand is like hot. This was warm. It was amazing. It had to be pushing 90. No. Yes. Seriously. Yeah. Maybe 87. Cause I keep my pool at about 90 when I'm warming it, which I know some people think is hot, but I don't like that moment of getting in. And well, that's, I had a little, when I went in, I was like, ah, but then I quickly acclimated. Mary, That sand was crab-free, rock-free. That water was turquoise. Oh, yeah. It was clean. It was so shallow all the way out. I think I went two and a half miles out, still up to the knees. Yeah, I had a really good time.
29:42Trixie Mattel:I got in that water. I just was like, I got to get in it just for a second. So I did. All the sand in my asshole, you wouldn't believe so much. I mean, you could probably make an adobe hut with all that sand. I got back to my room and I took my swimsuit off. The amount of sand that hit the floor had me wondering where it was. Where was it? Mama, it was in your uterus. I had to go get the two room key cards and create a shovel. And like, like, like a sandcastle that came from my fucking perineum. Mary, I know. I had to change rooms because I clogged the shower. With the sand? Yeah. No, I'm just kidding.
30:15But I mean, I could have, I should have probably.
30:17Trixie Mattel:No, once I was in the shower, the amount of sand that came off me made me feel like, am I ruining the shower? It just kept coming. I was like, I don't feel this is like douching. I feel there's much sand on me. And in the shower, it's like, really? Is that what you think? Yes. It was like, is the sand coming from the shower? Seriously, it was that much. It's not like it could get hot in my hair. You know? Well, I put my hair up in a thing anyways. Saw a video of myself in the ocean. Doing that? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. Beyond the self-body shaming, which I won't subject any of you to, the patch of hair on my lower back has gotten so dark and egregious and thick and present, omnipresent confrontational if I was walking away from you you could grab it and pull me back I swear to it's like a cheerleader's pom pom on my all five Mary you just go up to 8000 Sunset go to Miss European Wax and ask for Mary she'll get you good right away I barely have eyebrows but I have a woolen basket and a lower back but I have a full fall I have a three quarter wig on my lumbar spine.
31:25Trixie Mattel:And also, how many people have been back there and said nothing? Shout out to all those nice people. Well, you know what? Listen, people love hair. People love not hair. Do you know what it gives? Have you ever seen like that hair girl that's all bald except a pony? Like one island of a pony here. That's what I'm giving. It also gives malignant. You know what I mean? Oh. Maybe it's like, what was that guy's name? Jeffrey? No, her fake brother. Oh, yeah. Juniper? I forget. I don't remember. Damien? No. Malachi? something. It's something like that. What do you think of all those religious names?
31:56Oh, I love religious names. If I had a dog, I would name it Christian. John Mark and Luke? No, Christian. John Mark, Luke, Christian. I mean, I have... Irish. I mean, I like regular names. I'm not really into the McKayleys and the McNavys and the McBaileys and all that stuff. That's a very Midwest, Southern gymnastics type of thing. Oh, dance team. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like -
32:26Trixie Mattel:Camille Racket. They all got crazy names. Yeah, yeah. McRacket. Satchel. Yeah, McSatchel. McSatchel. It's always like a something like a - Rise. Rise McMadison Satchel or whatever. Rise Phoenix McSatchel. So I went to the ocean. I wanted to touch the ocean with my little foot, right? And I had my men's clothing on. And I just wanted to touch the ocean. And I had my shoes on. And I brought my sneaker. And I was like, I'm just going to touch this ocean. And then before the wave comes back, I'm going to skittle, right? I'm going to skittle out of here. Don't, don't. I want to touch it. Don't, don't.
32:56Trixie Mattel:Right. So I go to touch it with my, like, I go to touch it and the water comes quick and the water overcomes my sneaker. How spashed are we? My on clouds are 80 % wet. Great. Like, like up to the, almost the ankle. I go, okay, great. And I'm like dealing with it. Right. I'm kind of like going, no, no. Like screaming up at the universe. You know, if anybody can hear me. Like Jennifer Love Hewitt in them at the end of the movie. No, no. My butt. And also thinking, yeah, duh. waves. Yeah. Do you think it was going to stop magically and wait for you to touch it? Yeah. No. No. And then this old lady to my right goes, ha ha.
33:27Trixie Mattel:Fucking cunt. I thought ha ha was so crazy. Ha ha is a little. I don't know you. Ha ha is a little. Ha ha? It's antagonistic. It's antagonistic and also a little familiar. She might've said, I know you are, but what am I? It was like, she was trying to one up me. And I go, ha ha. I would have been more comfortable with a faggot. seriously what did you think was going to happen faggot and then this family this family's watching family with children is watching probably to see how I'm going to respond right so now I feel all kind of like I gotta say something you take your earrings off and I go ha ha and I turn to her I go ha ha ha ha that swimsuit ha ha that hair looks like straw bitch ha ha that front ass and the dad of the family was watching me say that and then was like oh and looked at her and she didn't respond so then it was kind of over so they got kind of won you did win but I wish it would have evolved into a world star hip hop kind of moment you could have gone viral what would you have done if you opened Twitter and it was like struggling drag race star jacked it gets in a full fist fight with a woman on a beach yeah 73 year old woman one piece bathing suit from Des Moines I would have jacked it all night long right that would be so great what would you do I would have jacked it jerked it and then I would have printed it out and then gone to the library and looked at it as microfiche I wish we were famous enough to have paparazzi after us because I would love for us to have an umbrella or something.
34:46But I don't think they do that anymore. They don't. I think only, I think, I don't think that level of, well, I mean, I know it like the Harry Styles and stuff, like K-pop people, you know, like the, the girls, the, the,
34:59Trixie Mattel:I'm still at a level of fame, but if I see paparazzi, my, I feel, I feel elated. What, why? I'm like, they wasted pictures on me. Like, I'm like, oh my God. Well, I'm always like, oh, they thought I was Guy Branum or something. They thought I was, they thought I was Madeline. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I was, I heard a comedian say the level of the most common level of fame nowadays is that they either don't know you. They either don't know who you are or they know what you've had for lunch. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like it's like, Oh yeah. The one I was, I was at an award show and I was leaving and they were just taking pictures of anyone who was leaving.
35:33Cause I think no,
35:34Trixie Mattel:no photographer is going to know who everyone is. No. And that's what happened to me in the taco truck. Are accidentally like taco truck. What do you mean? Talk at the hospital. He's like, can I look at your Instagram? Once he saw that I had more, like a lot of followers, he was like, oh, and then just pictures, photo shoots, photo shoots. He's like, I'm going to post these. I was like, okay. No, I wasn't in drag at all. But I had taken a photo down the street, like a block with two girls. And I guess he maybe saw it and figure, I don't know what. And he made a huge deal of it once he saw that.
36:06And that's happened before. Once I got robbed by those Pakistani gangs in London. once they saw my Instagram we became fast friends and this is not I'm not pulling the yarn this is like I almost got like rolled by this gang of young kids but we I've told you about this like three times I swear to God and they stole money from me but they didn't they took$2 instead of the$100 bill that was in my bag right yeah so but once they saw the Instagram followers they were like oh my god this is Cade Blanchett this is Tom Cruise they're benevolent thieves No, we're a team now. Right. Like they want to be my entourage.
36:43It was so wild. It was crazy. That's really weird. But it makes sense though for kids because what is a more realistic opportunity in the future? Paying for college or going viral on TikTok?
37:00Trixie Mattel:Going viral on TikTok? Yeah. Okay, the other day I Googled. What about fucking Brittany Broski? What about her? she has like a billion followers online and makes tons of money and as is super famous yeah but she's famous for something she's famous for being funny yes but she was discovered through a meme but i'm saying i would argue that what she's put on the internet is funny yeah and she's funny and she's using the internet to showcase yes funny yes yes yes versus the genre of content that is just just someone living that's hugely popular which is usually like some hot girl right right just living just living or eating i mean i was doing my low asmr research baby and it's all about eating crabs there's a lot of things what i nick and i were just we were we got asked to go to youtube this nick and we got to participate in something called mb creators mba in a day where you got to do all these like in-depth courses about being a youtube creator we were invited no one knew why we were there um you're like you don't eat crabs no it was the thing is it was people who are, like I would say, I don't want to say who, but like individuals like Brittany, that size like team where it's probably the person and their social media editor or whatever.
38:16Trixie Mattel:And then there was giant companies that have a hundred plus employees that are technically YouTube channels. These like content houses. Oh, like the ones that I used to live like by on the Hills with all those drones and that. No, not TikTok houses. Like, Oh, I'm going to say like Jubilee. Okay. Or like a barstool sports. Oh yeah. Or like mythical kitchen, these giant YouTube channels that do like last meals or whatever. First we feast. Yes. So they were there giving interesting presentations about like, oh my God, it's a YouTube channel that has eight CEOs and like, wow. Jesus. Like for us to be a tiny YouTube channel and bald and beautiful here, I was like so crazy to hear people.
38:56Trixie Mattel:They run a YouTube channel like they run a cable network. Right. 100 employees. It's like the morning show with Jennifer Aniston. One of the people were like, oh, we have a team of 2 ,500 freelancers. We have a team of 2 ,500 pieces of paper in the office. Yeah. Maybe not even 500. 2 ,500. We listened to these presentations all day, including one about, honestly, it was 90 minutes and I could not tell you what was said. Was it corporate Aaron? It was so over my head. It wasn't corporate Aaron because it wasn't word salad. It was intentional smart shit. that was and the more I less I knew the more my acting got worse so like they were like ga ga ga blah blah blah blah blah yeah like pretending to type and nodding even though I was googling exact words he would say I'd pick one word and google it and you had no computer no I had my iPad okay and I was trying to I had a pizza box I had a pizza box and I was trying to keep up and 10 minutes in I was like this isn't for me this is for big brain individuals was it just like advanced marketing and business It was biomechanics.
40:00Trixie Mattel:No, I don't know what it is. It was something. Nick, do you remember what it is? AIP. Yeah. API. API. Like coding and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Coding, of course. Girl. I was like. HTML. Love her. I was like. And there was an exercise where they had to have your whole YouTube channel and you had to draw a web of the way your company's laid out. And so they showed us a flow chart of like a company with a hundred employees or whatever. So Nick and I have one piece of paper and we write his name and my name. We're like. This is it. We got boobs. We got boobs. And then guess who has to give a presentation at the end of the day?
40:34Trixie Mattel:Who? Me. What? We get up there. We get up there and it's all these big time, big time people who run major, major, major YouTube channels who are like, Oh, I came from, I came from cable and I actually started this cable network and then ended up over here at this giant. My name is Warren Buffett. You might've heard of me. Wow. So then I'm up there and I'm like, how y 'all doing? Great. So one time I did a video about the Amish. Like I just was like, we're going to bake some easy big oven stuff. Yeah. We talked about some depth, creating depth of fandom, which is like, I don't know what we always call like the Trixie cinematic universe of like, there's music and, and DJing and stuff in my house.
41:10Trixie Mattel:And like, if people are fans, they might only be fans from seeing like you and I on Tik TOK. Right. Or they might be like hardcore fans who like can visualize my mom in videos. They love the easy big. Yeah. And so we tried to talk about that and I think we were successful, but just after hearing these people literally give presentations on how to hire CEOs, I was just like, okay Let's get some color Let's get some splash Enough of that gray jargon Did you take your top off? No, they did ask me an interesting question That I didn't have a good answer for in the moment Somebody asked me If people like to watch you Because they relate to you And I said, I think so, right?
41:48Trixie Mattel:I mean, I think people always tell you and I I'm the Trixie, I'm the Katya, I'm the whatever They go They've made you more successful And so how do you manage being relatable to them, but then like appearing. That's an excellent question. Like wealthier. Yeah. How do you, how do you maintain relatability while your lifestyle dramatically changes? That's a great question. But I think that minimizing or concealing that change in your life isn't honest and isn't a good place to start from. It can be dishonest, right? Yeah. It's a really, it's a hard thing to negotiate because it's, on the one hand, you want to share, part of your relatability is sharing the details of your life.
42:26And yours. Yes. Oh, yeah. I'm just saying one's life. And then, but of course, the problem is that many of those details have become wildly unrelatable. Right. So if we're talking about, I only have 18 rooms in my chalet.
42:42Trixie Mattel:I would say you shouldn't have bought it. Yeah. Because you know you need 20. All right. We got to wrap. Oh, okay. Well, it was interesting anyway. And I tried to grasp whatever wisdom, but so much of it was over my head. It was like HTML.biz. It was like, there was a pitching machine and I was swinging every time, but only connecting every once in a while. That's okay. It's like, that sounds kind of scary and boring. It wasn't scary or boring. It was like, it was the closest thing to college I'd felt since college. Oof. Keep it. Icebreakers. I would rather just do the Gallagher thing and break watermelons.
43:18Yeah. Yeah.
43:19Trixie Mattel:It was interesting though. Really interesting. Do you know about streamers getting swatted? people who like love big streamers aka hate them as we talked about will call the fbi or whatever and say that there's like uh gonna be a horrible bombing crime at that address and while someone's on stream the fbi swat team break into their fucking house isn't that crazy
43:44Trixie Mattel:let's take a break let's take the ultimate break because that's it and that i'm gonna go kick some walls or something but we're talking to streamers and hearing streamers talk about like that next level of danger. Well, that's the thing. They know where you live. They know what you have for lunch because they're watching you have it in your home. Yes. That's why I always shoot in a cave. What do you think about the guy who ran up to Ariana Grande? I don't, Mary, come to Brazil, baby. Cynthia should have gone on that broom and flown them both out of there. Baby, when I was walking to, six years ago, when I was wiggling my sweaty ass to a nightclub at 3 a.m.
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