#533 - Our 2025 Spotify Wrapped!

21:00Joe Santagato:a bit that is a bit but it was good I mean it like she after I saw because I haven't seen the second one yet after I saw the first one I was like yo she really is like just has natural talent for like seemingly anything she does yeah I guess the only two things I've seen her do are sing and act so those are big ones those are very big ones yeah she's also great on SNL and like her appearances on SNL. She's really, really good. Yeah. But it was good. I liked it. I thought it was cool. Fucking for good, dude. That song is a fucking slapper. Yeah, I'll probably, not that I'm like boycotting it, but like, I don't know if the second part of Wicked, I heard that it's not as strong as the first part.

21:38I honestly don't see that.

21:40Joe Santagato:There's some other stuff coming out. Joey, you should go to the movies once a month and you should let me pick what you go see. Why can't I live my life? because that's not how this works. You can go to the movie. You go. Okay. But let me pick your movie. But I don't even enjoy movies in the same way that you do. I think you should go back this weekend and go see Five Nights at Freddy's 2. Oh, I have no interest in seeing that. Why not? You're not a FNAF guy? FNAF. No, I mean, I played the game. That's the game. They made a movie now? You did play it. They made two movies. Spoiler, the fucking bears kill.

22:16Joe Santagato:Well, there's a bear. There's a fox. There's a cupcake. There's a duck. They all kill. There's a, what else is there? There's an alligator. Chicken. Chicken. Well, I thought I said duck. I guess chica is technically a chicken. It could be a duck. Could be. Yeah, I'm not really that sure. I'm not really into movies like that. Scary ones? No, just in general. Like, I mean, I'm more into TV shows than I am movies. Was that the first time you've had an alcoholic drink at a movie theater? Yeah. I think so. When else am I going to drink at a movie theater? Never mind. Oh, you sneak it in? oh we're gonna sneak in vodka big bad guy yeah like the big bad guy instead of going and buying a 12 drink you have to sneak in and be a criminal no you still buy that as well oh so you're doing double take no you just i no i've never had a an alcoholic drink at that thing i just had a beer because i was like you know they had it i was like i'm not gonna order nothing we're out of my draft house this is what you come for here's what here's the only way i would bring a drink into a movie theater is if it could be like the good old days of like high school when you just put vodka in a coke bottle that's when you would do it that's disgusting you know what i'm saying like there's something about like not knowing how to mix drinks that makes it taste better maybe it's just the nostalgia part of me but like i think it's it's been disgusting i also never did that like i never put vodka in a water bottle and just like drank a little bit of just raw vodka dude what gross the lines waiting to get into remy teen night that's what everyone did they passed around a poland spring bottle filled with all the way alcohol i never did that dude i i mean we would go to clubs but i would just get hammered at the like the pre and then i'd be good i'd be online freezing and kind of like i'm warm because my heart rate's not saying And I did, but if I had a fake ID, I would have used it in those places.

24:12Joe Santagato:Yeah. I would have let that shit fuck you. What, at the club? Yeah. I've never ordered a drink at a club. Like, at that time when we were clubbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I never did that. Oh, I remember the first drink I ever ordered at a club. What was it? I thought I was a fucking genius, by the way. This should be good. This is when this drink in particular was huge. Yeah. I went to – well, it wasn't DNA at the time. It was Studio 34. Oh, okay. And it was tequila, Patron, silver, Sprite, no ice, filled to the top. That's what you said? And you were probably 17. Yeah. Yeah, it was. You said Patron.

24:58You remember when you thought Patron was like the fucking best, most expensive thing in the world?

25:04Joe Santagato:I'm going to fucking blow your mind. Do you remember Nuvo? No. Look up Nuvo. It was like the pink bottle. It was like after, like, there was like a falling out with Cristal. Because remember, Cristal was like the liquor that people talked about. And then they were like, Nuvo. Oh, shit. Do you remember this shit? What's the other one? Hypnotic. Hypnotic. Well, hypnotic is disgusting. It was never as big as Nuvo. 15 % alcohol. It was basically like. That's wine, baby. Yeah. It was like rosé in a bottle. This looks like shampoo. Yeah, it does. Yo, honestly, it looks delicious. It does. When it's, like, bright colors like that, I'm in.

25:43I want it.

25:44Joe Santagato:What would you do with this? I wouldn't get it, but I'm saying, like, there was, like, when we were growing up, there was always, like, the cool alcohol. Yeah. And it was always, like, first it was Cristal, then it was Patron. Do you know Hypnotic? I do. It looks very cool. Yeah, it does. Hypnotic looks cool. Remember Hypnotic and Hennessy? Incredible Hulk. Of course. You know? But, yeah, I thought I was the coolest kid in the world. Meanwhile, I was over there being like, let me get a Red Bull vodka. And I was just like, I'm sorry. I don't mean to trigger you, but. Hypnotic. Red Bull and vodka.

26:16Joe Santagato:And this is not a diss to Red Bull or a diss to Mr. Vodka. Yeah. Not a good combination. Oh, man. I mean, I think that it gets the job done. Might be the best. If you're exhausted and you get in there and you're like, all right, I still want to go, but I'm really struggling. You do one, you're fucking sad. Just do Coke, dude. wrong just just do coke not gonna do that i also go to the club tired i mean don't do drugs but like that's literally the opposite i also don't think i even have it in me to be able to do that yeah neither do i hence why i haven't i mean i've seen you snort coca-cola okay you can get stuff up there is my of course i'm saying like there's more to life than when i started saying that your eyes lit up like this because i was like what is he gonna say i am to be very clear yeah i have never done any drug right we are and and that's you being fucking i'm being okay however right if someone were to come to me and be like i need to wake up so i'm gonna have a red bull and vodka i'd be like dude just do the just do drugs but i don't do drugs either i know so i'm doing the next best thing i just a red bull vodka to me is so like i just i just think like there's a very specific clientele that has it.

27:33What does that mean? Psychopaths. I mean, I've done it. And it works. And you have it. That doesn't help me.

27:41Joe Santagato:But, you know, it gets the job done. But yeah, I thought it was a fucking genius. What was it again? It was Patron silver, Sprite to the top, no ice. Because I was like, oh, I'm basically getting a cup of Patron. At least a half cup of Patron. You told them to fill it to the top? Yeah. Are you even allowed to say it? And you're right. It was warm, brother. It was warm and gross. Oh, yeah. Why no? Oh, because you wanted all... I thought I was getting more alcohol. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. This was before... Fill it up to the top. That means that they put the same amount of alcohol and just filled it with spiky.

28:16Yeah.

28:17Joe Santagato:Yeah, absolutely. That's so good. I mean, it was a pretty shitty club and kids underage all the time. Yeah. So, like, they might have. I don't even... I still, to this day, kind of have a difficult time with, like, what drink do I order at a place that doesn't have a menu like if you're gonna get a cocktail because i'm always just like margarita but like i don't want that all the time because it's like so burny you know like the lime is so like it gives you a burn uh i was like burning who's no i just meant like you know what i mean it's so like sometimes it's too crazy next you should have like a like a rolodex of like drinks you want to try that are like standard drinks i'm not saying go in there and be like Let me get a green screen double carpet.

28:57Well, there was one time that I went to a – this was when I was probably 24 years old. And I wasn't really into cocktails at this time. And I went to this restaurant that when I walked in, it seemed pretty fancy. And I guess we were there a little early. And they were like, you can go to the bar and order a drink and just wait for your table. I was like, all right, cool. so I go to the bar but I'm like looking around and everyone's like drinking out of martini glasses but I don't like martinis and you know kind of this thing and I'm like I don't know what because the only drink that I knew was a Jack and Coke and I was like I can't order that here yeah it's not the right place I just can't be like yo Jack and Coke do it up like fucking

29:38Joe Santagato:yeah it doesn't it doesn't work a Jack and Coke like when you're young you're like yo that's like a grown drink and then you get grown and you're like this is for children yeah It was not. I'm with you. I do believe there's a certain etiquette behind getting certain drinks. You can't get a Jack and Coke at a nice restaurant. There's an in-between, too, because there's places that I would order a cocktail, but I wouldn't order it. Because there's a cocktail called The Last Word that I really like, but I wouldn't order that at every place. You would order that at a cocktail place. You know what I mean?

30:14Joe Santagato:I mean, I think that there are certain cocktails that are classic that everyone should know how to make that you can order wherever you go. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Like, I don't think it speaks about the cocktail. It speaks more about the person, like, if they make it well. It's less about the cock. It's less about the cock, more about the tail. The tail. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you could get a Manhattan or you could get a, you know, old-fashioned. Manhattan? Yeah. I'll be right with this kid, his listening age. They're ordering Manhattans. Manhattans are delicious, Joey. No. Old-fashioned is delish.

30:48I like old fashions Manhattan's that reminds me of my grandma what was that place that did

30:53Joe Santagato:Uncle Jack's is that still there in Astoria no I haven't been over in that way in a while it is not did you see the Pomeroy it was just like come on in did there oh I did see that they posted our clip and they were just like we got a cold one for you yeah yeah very cool I haven't been to the Pomeroy in a minute oh fuck but like they used to do an old fashioned but they would smoke yeah they would smoke the glass so it was like a smoky old fashioned if you smoke my drink i'm telling you right now they'll smoke your cock no no no there was a place on ditmar's that's not there anymore but on their menu i went there one time it was like a new restaurant at the time and they had a bone marrow old-fashioned like come on what that's getting a little out there the bone was like cold so it acted kind of like the ice cube and they put that shit in the cup and then they did the whole thing i was like it's pretty cool i'm not i'm when it's like food like that like if they had like a chicken wing spritzer you would get that i mean one of i had a great drink and it was a shishito pepper margarita peppers are different peppers are different that's a vegetable i'm talking like bone marrow is like it's a meat adjacent it's meat adjacent it's a it's a ligament do they have like buffalo chicken alcohol I pray every day that they don't that sounds disgusting it sounds like something you guys drank I don't want to look it up because I'll buy it it does sound like something you would you know drink and throw up if they did oh hear me out fall never arrives all at once first the air then the light and slowly the things you love begin to find each other a jacket meets a dress a hoodie slips beneath a blazer An old cap finds a new scarf.

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33:00Joe Santagato:I love Frank's Red Hot. Okay? What if they, because everyone's looking to, like, we're finally coming back around. Joey, I don't know if you know this. Back in the day, companies used to be a lot more playful with their branding and marketing. it's it's becoming like you just say the same things hear me out what if insert company more playful here's my horrible idea what if as we're coming back around to that place where companies are becoming more playful frank's red hot partners with a vodka company and they make a buffalo flavored vodka and the challenge because you love alcohol challenges you love it you love it i don't if the challenge is a buffalo-flavored vodka mixed with a chaser of blue cheese.

33:46Oh, my God.

33:48Joe Santagato:That probably would offset the burn. That's what I'm saying. This could be a billion-dollar idea. Now we're getting ahead of ourselves. This could be an absolute billion. Bro, a viral trend. I mean, I'm pretty sure there is spicy alcohol. I know there's spicy alcohol. I've had spicy alcohol. I'm saying, though, like. There's an easy way to stop this. Seeing if it exists. Yeah. Oh, perfect. They can partner with Buffalo Trace. Yeah. So Frank's Red Hot partners with Buffalo Trace, and they make the Buffalo. It doesn't exist. Dude. It's fine. Dude. No. No, it doesn't exist. You know what? Instead of all of these ideas, instead, why doesn't everyone who's listening just have a nice happy thursday okay it's a happy thursday that's a really good point happy thursday guys these are and yes we are getting into the sponsors right now but happy thursday but happy thursday these are great okay these are spiked refreshers okay because they're spiked you got to be 21 there's some alcohol in here how much 4.4 that's a good little middle ground right there.

35:02But they have 4.4 % alcohol and they're bubble free. So it doesn't get you, you know, anything too crazy going on in here. It doesn't get you all bloated and it tastes really good. It's refreshing, but they're delicious. They go down easy. Obviously you got to be 21 to have it, but you know, this holiday season, if you're going over your friend's house or you're going over, you know, for a family party, BYOB situation, how about you bring a pack of that Happy Thursday and be like, here, try this, grandma. I bet you didn't have this back in your day. You know what I mean? Give her some bubble-free stuff.

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38:30Joe Santagato:So go to a web browser, type in patreon.com slash thebasemanyard, and check out if you want to join us. We thank you guys for helping us continue to break records. Move in the right direction, man. That's what I'm talking about. You know, move that way. I don't want to do the hand gesture because it's close. So go check it out. Patreon.com slash TheBaseBoneyard. Thank you. What were we talking about right before we did this? Oh, my incredible billion-dollar idea. You don't think that has any merit? A buffalo. A buffalo-flavored alcohol. Yeah. Paired with a shot of blue cheese. I mean, it's gimmicky.

39:07I think that it could catch on for that. Gimmicks make. It's not billions now. Gimmicks make money. Not all of them. Quick money, maybe. Did you see the trend on TikTok, the Johnny Whoop thing? Did you see that or no? Johnny Whoop? Yeah, Johnny Whoop. I don't know who's Johnny Whoop. It kind of looks like this, like Johnny Whoop, Johnny Whoop. Oh, yeah. Have you seen that? No, but I know it. You know it? Yeah, I don't know it. But like it's on TikTok now? Yeah, it's on TikTok. I remember that from like our childhood. Like my sister used to Johnny Whoop. I've never been whooped by Johnny.

39:38Joe Santagato:Have you ever done it? Like you know how to do it? Did you not just hear what exactly I just said? No, I didn't. I've never That's because you keep talking about your hat Yeah Jesus Christ For one second Put the hat down Yeah I've never Johnny whooped You've never Johnny whooped What is it? So it's like You just gotta Do this And you're doing it right Should we do it? Yeah we're gonna do it Do what? So you just gotta do this I'll do it first Then you do it That's all you gotta do Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny And that's it Uh Something seems suspicious about this Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny Is that it?

40:26Joe Santagato:Yeah, yeah, you got it Okay I'm gonna do it, something feels off Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop Johnny whoop, Johnny Johnny, whoop, Johnny. No, you didn't do it right. Yes, I did. No, you didn't do it right. You didn't. Not even close. Does it matter? Do I have to start at the pinky? Well, that would be helpful, yeah. I mean, that's, yeah. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny, whoop. Johnny. No. No. You guys are fucking with me at this point. I, I. You want to do it? No, no, no.

41:08Wait, what?

41:08Joe Santagato:Show him again. Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny How did he do anything different than I did? He got it right This is No this is one of these fucking You're just fucking with me for the sake of it No Yep You just gotta listen Right Yeah To what? Well don't Not only listen but also Yeah also see you know See Yeah Alright Go Johnny whoop

41:47Joe Santagato:Johnny fucking whoop At this point I did it twice the exact way That you both did it It was not the exact Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny No Alright So tell me Tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong Because this is starting to piss me off You gotta One more time I'll do it No no no no Don't show me again I'm not an idiot And enough for your hat It does help If you wash them Alright Johnny whoop Nope sorry I messed that up See I messed it up Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop Johnny whoop You added an extra whoop in there See now he's fucking with me Yeah he did Too many whoops I tried to go fast but there's too many whoops.

42:38Joe Santagato:That wasn't the important part. The whoops aren't even important. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny what? Johnny. Well, you know that's wrong. I don't know. I maybe added an extra syllable, but I think that was good. I mean, no. Unfortunately, no. If you do it again, I swear to God, I'm launching this Happy Thursday at your head. I'm just saying, so you got to go through it all and back. And then an extra Johnny on the top of the John. And then that's how you would finish.

43:12Joe Santagato:I'm not. Hold on a sec. What am I doing at the end there? You go through them all. Yeah. Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop, Johnny whoop. And you're going back. And then you land on Johnny, and that's how you would finish. So say it. Do it, do it, do it. Yeah, yeah. You got it. No, no, no. No, no. Do it, you bitch. No. You got it. No, nice try. What? What? Nice try. I see what you're doing. Oh, I thought you were in and now I think you're out. Oh, I don't think you know it, actually. Oh, wait. Please do it. What do you think? You got it. Johnny Whoop. Yeah. Johnny Whoop. Yeah. Johnny Whoop. Yeah. Johnny Whoop.

43:51Joe Santagato:Yep. Johnny Whoop. Yep. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny Whoop. Johnny.

44:13Joe Santagato:Guys, I'm not kidding. When you finish, Johnny, whoop. That's how you finish. I know what you're trying to get me to say, and I'm not fucking buying into this. What are you talking about? Frankie. All right, I'll play around. You want me to finish on Johnny? What? What's asking you to do that? So when you finish, when you end the whole Johnny moves When I finish on Johnny It has nothing to do with Jizz income When you complete this riddle, when you come back and you land on Johnny This is how you finish

44:47Joe Santagato:Now do it I fucking hate this so much Should we just help? Sure, I guess so Well, he should try one more time probably One more time Just one more time Okay Alright So you watched, but you watched Yes You watched the whole thing I watched everything How do you finish? Nice try. No, no, no. I'm trying to help you. How do you complete it? I'm trying to save time. I'm not saying it. It's not about gay. I complete the riddle on Johnny. Johnny. And then this is how you finish. This is how. It's not gay. I know. Wait, is it though? It isn't gay. I swear. Just do the finish part. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop.

45:34Joe Santagato:Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny whoop. Johnny, this is how you finish. Guys, I'm going to fucking flip this table. I swear to God. I'm going to do the last part so slow. Okay. Johnny. Wait, is Johnny on top? Johnny's on top. Okay. Whoop. Johnny. I fucking did that. Johnny. Who's this? That's Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Hey, I'm Johnny. Johnny. You fold your arms! You gotta fold your arms after!

46:29It was his idea!

46:34I knew Johnny Whoop. He asked me if I knew Johnny. I said, I know Johnny Whoop. He goes, do you think Frank does? I'm like, I don't know. This is how you finish. We did it every time. That's true.

46:46Should we go to the ads or something? Do you want to take some time?

46:52Yeah.

46:57But big him. Small me. Yeah.

47:02Joe Santagato:Yeah. I fucking hate those things so much. We did that video for San Diego Studios where we did, like, the bar tricks, where it's just like, I'm bringing, um, a pen, and I wanted to bash my head through the wall. Not as a bit, not as like, let me spruce this up and make this funny. I'm not kidding. If I lived the rest of my life and you asked me to do one of those things or eat a spoon of fucking mustard, I think I found something I hate more than mustard Wow So that means we gotta do more of them No I won't be doing either of them Let's make that abundantly clear That sucks That is so sucky Johnny whoop I did it Fuck you you smug bastard And whoever the hell made this up Well him me not me I did also I did also think it was a gay thing If I'm being really honest Cause you were just like this is how you finish and then my response would be like so i finish on johnny and he's like whoa that's what i thought it was one of those schoolyard got you gay things you know got you gay that's what i thought it was right dead to rights dick dig to rights yeah we've something to exercise that a little bit too much something i saw god i hate those things so much i know i mean that other one that you did one time where it's just like whoop whoop oh it's like finger stuff well joe you have done finger stuff before on camera there was like yeah there's there's one i've seen there was this one guy that was like here's how to test your brain and i would do them and be like yo i'm literally my shit is not working correctly well that's why i like to like test my discipline and learn yakko's world from the animaniacs to really test right how disciplined i am that's how that's how i mean And it's cool that you choose to do that because I really do think that's like a unique experience.

49:01Like I don't think anyone else is testing their discipline in that way.

49:04Joe Santagato:Wow, wait a sec. You know what? You kind of gave me something there. I'm serious. I am one of one. Yeah. Like I did that thing. No one else has done that but me. Except maybe the voice actor that did it for the show. I'm sure people have memorized that before but not for the intention that you are. One of one. One of one. You kind of made me feel better about myself there. I wasn't trying to put you down. I agree. One on one. Yeah. Yeah, one on one. End the show. Also, this. You fucking marry Kate and Ashley on a box set of a VHS cover. Who does this still? I know we've done it. Folder arms? I know we've done it in pictures a lot.

49:50Joe Santagato:Human beings? Yeah, but as like a gotcha thing. I mean. You know? as like a hmm seems like i've got you cornered very anime very not just anime but like it's like 80s movie school bully you know what i mean it's like well you have lunch money guess who's hungry i love the give me your lunch money thing and in movies it was like they would hold them upside down and shake it out of their pockets i don't know what pants these kids were wearing you could hold me upside down and shakes me for hours nothing's coming out of my pocket that's what I mean like what what are we talking about here did you guys have lunch money yeah growing up yeah when we were like younger yeah I I don't but like it wasn't like a they gave me cash like it was like an envelope that we like gave our teacher and the teacher would give it like for whoever needed it yeah I mean now look thinking back like I don't remember I mean we definitely had cash when it was pretzel day well yeah that but we did we give we didn't pay cash I didn't so my oh i asked my mom ahead of time i asked my mom about this recently because i was like i never remember paying and she's like it we paid but i would because she was always close with all the school teachers and all the schools oh nepotism sure she would pay them directly like she would go and like give it like oh this is for frankie today i thought that like there would be these payments like i vaguely remember handing an envelope of money and then they would like mark your name so that they knew like you would go on that line or something why do why and you know like they even still do this a little bit to kids why give kids that much responsibility with something like we've had to for like our kids school like they had the holiday shops around this time of the year where you know it's like you know you can you know buy something for your whole family and it's like a scholastic book fair amount of stuff but like it's like send your kids in with cash like why haven't these schools like set up something where it's like i can like load it onto my kids account and they use it that way yeah i don't know but i mean i think also it was like an income thing because i think some people got free lunch yes correct it was but i'm saying like giving your seven year old a fucking envelope of money and be like go give this to your teacher yeah i don't know i'd be like no i think that's why my mom didn't let me because i'd just take it and go to sip surf and play yeah yeah i think it was just like i think that's what it was it's like an envelope you hand as you teach her and she marked her name and then you're good but there were some children that i guess their families were below a certain amount of income so they got free lunch but um you know i think my well my mom didn't work in the school at that time but she worked in a school and my dad was a fireman so did you have to get no free lunch well we know Someone didn't have to pay Fucking yellow Definitely not He was paying double over there Yeah yeah yeah They made him pay for the whole class He's Yeah absolutely He brought in filet mignon He was like Yeah yeah yeah Play Dean Martin Give me filet mignon Yeah yeah I need my espresso He's six year old With his fucking vodka Red bull And having a lobster tail At lunch He's just fucking Everyone's eating Rectangle pizza And enough We know you had that hat In elementary school too Enough with the hat Dude Yeah He's like I used to At lunch at the table I would eat chicken piccata.

53:13Joe Santagato:Wait, so, I know we're, we got completely off track. Back to you going to the movies. You had a good time at the movies? Yeah. Would you go back to the movies? If I was compelled to watch a movie, yeah. Has there been nothing that has come out where it's just like, I should go see that in the theater? I think I'm just spoiled by the way that we consume now. Like, it'll, it'll, like these things will be available in my living room in a couple months. Yeah, that doesn't, but like for me, with movies it's like if i see a movie and i'm like oh i want to see that that the time that that lasts is probably much shorter than it lasts for you because if it did last longer of like no i really want to see that movie then i would be compelled to go dude the last week has been trying because we haven't finished stranger things and i was just like let's watch them all right now let's do it all which i know we can't because of just like they're very long episodes but like Becca's just like, we'll watch an episode at night, and then we'll wait a couple days.

54:10Joe Santagato:And then we'll watch, which we haven't done this time, but she's much more, I'm on the binge now model. I'm like that too once I get started. I don't like taking days off. Especially if we're sitting here and we're not really doing anything. Why are we going to watch anything but the show we decided to watch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm kind of like that too. Nicole's like, she can do like two, but then it's like. Are you guys into Stranger Things? She's never watched any of it. I've watched it. I just haven't watched the new season. Just watch it. And it's tough to be like, I'm going to put on this.

54:45Imagine having no context. I'm like, there's these kids and there's aliens. It's hard to explain.

54:50Joe Santagato:Technically not aliens. I mean, so we just showed Miles. So that's why we waited as long because he had to finish season four before we started watching season five. And he's like, I got like three episodes left. And I was like, get in your room. I'll do your homework. Yeah. And go watch the show. And he was just like, no, I want to enjoy it. You're sick tomorrow. Because you're going to be home watching fucking Stranger Things. Yo, I'm not kidding. Last, I think it was Monday, he came home and we hadn't started watching it yet. And on the way home, I called Becca and I was just like, is Miles home from school?

55:27Joe Santagato:And she's like, no. I was like, the minute he walks in, take his backpack, send him to his room to watch Stranger Things. I'm not playing around, dude. Yeah. I, when I, like, let's watch it. It's getting increasingly tougher not to, like, already parts of Shanger Things were spoiled for me. If you say anything, either of you, because I haven't finished this batch of episodes yet, that gun that I brought up a couple episodes ago, I'll use it to shoot a hat off his head. Can't have that. Not that hat. Not that one. Anyway, we do have some more sponsors for the show. The first one being, how you doing?

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58:21Joe Santagato:I know he's just sitting on his butt and a raccoon. That's a cute raccoon. I don't want to. I'm currently in a feud with a raccoon in my house. You have raccoons? They eat your garbage? Yeah. Nice. No. Dude, so I went out there the other night to throw out garbage, and there it was just on my garbage can. It was standing on my recycling, lifted it up, and was fucking. Isn't that so cute how they have hands and they can just do stuff that we can do? Not cute, dude, because it was a mess. There was garbage everywhere. I found pieces of ham and turkey all over the place. I'm surprised you let that go to waste I mean we ate most of it It was pieces that like were scraps Yeah I didn't think it was a full hunk of ham Well I was fucking And then we went to get our tree The other night and I got home As I pull up Guess who's in the garbage can Elvis Presley Sure I got out of the car and I literally like And I was like everyone get out that side of the car Because I didn't want this thing to attack my family Do they attack?

59:27Joe Santagato:They can. Yeah, I don't know. They got teeth. They got hands. As you said, they got claws. Yeah. You know? I mean, unfortunately, you can't trust them right now. But I feel like we've gotten to a good place as far as rabies. Well. I'm serious. What do you mean? Like me specifically has gotten to a good place? Or like the world? No, like the – well, I can't speak for the world, but the U.S. Yeah. Rabies, we have all but eradicated its effects on humans if you act swift. Once we officially be like, yo, it's eradicated, I'm going to be like, all right, I'm going to start hugging some fucking raccoons then.

1:00:02Joe Santagato:I mean, let's be very clear about something. Yeah. You can do that. Yeah, it's a risk. You can, but, like, you could also go hug a raccoon, they scratch you, they bite you, you just go right to the hospital and you should be good. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't like going to hospitals. I mean a lot of urgent care clinics in the northeast carry it because rabies is way more prevalent over here As you can tell I am the utmost fucking expert on rabies vaccine availability Yes I had to go to the fucking when we were in I know When we were in Phoenix I had to go to the hospital there to get my rabies vaccine Yeah Did it hurt?

1:00:38Joe Santagato:Did it hight? The first one wasn't fucking cool Can you feel it go in you? Like, oh, I'm now anti-rabied. I like to imagine that. I wish, because I've gotten IVs before and whatever. I wish I could just feel it going everywhere. Like a shield. Oh, it's killing everything. Oh, like you leave there and you feel stronger or something? I feel like we did talk about this, but I can't remember. But I just saw a video online about it. But when I got an IV and there were some bubbles and I'm like watching the bubbles in the thing and I'm like, am I going to die? Oh, yeah. There was a movie I saw that was like if you pump air, if air gets in the person's bloodstream or something, their heart will explode.

1:01:21it's definitely not good but i i uh i also i saw it coming from the bag and i was just like oh god and it wasn't big it was just like these two bubbles like but if it's an iv the air doesn't

1:01:35Joe Santagato:get into you oh no it does in an iv yeah because the way the ivs are set up like the air won't travel through what at least in my experience well there's like these little bubbles because they also have to inject these things into the bag gotcha gotcha okay yes so a little bit of when the saline solution goes in it makes a little frothiness no no so like the bag is the bag and there's no air in that but there's a part of the bag that you can inject things into and in this case it was like vitamin b and like some other shit yeah yeah uh and i guess during that maybe that causes some sort of whatever but i'm watching the bubble and i'm like oh god and then it goes into my arm and i'm just like yeah um what's that like what's that thing with like bubbles you know like the bubbles in the thing like it's dangerous and he's like oh yeah i was like yeah because i just saw to go in and probably should have said something before you saw him go away yeah i i i i didn't think that was polite to yeah i thought my life was in danger and i thought it was impolite yeah let me uh yeah but he explained like the the dude who was doing it he explained that like it's okay if like little bubbles because your body can handle that he's like this would have to be like a lot of air and then that gets in like that would be a huge issue like if someone like put one of those old timey like fire starters you know which one i'm talking about no you know what i'm talking about the accordion one yeah the accordion looking one that oh like the tip of an umbrella yeah those yeah if they put that in you and just started going off i could see that being a problem.

1:03:09I mean, of course that, but they, but he was like, it would, he's like, these bubbles, these little bubbles are not a big deal. Even if they like attach and made one little bubble like that, then like, that's not really a big deal. Like your body can kind of filter that out, but, um, or your lungs or whatever. I don't know. But he's like, if they, if he's like, I, I primed the line, meaning that the fluid goes through it first to get all the air out there. And then you kind of clip it so that, you know, whatever. But if you don't do that and like a decent amount of the line is air and that gets in you now you're fucked so it kind of eased my

1:03:42Joe Santagato:anxiety about that because don't tell me this because now i'm going to be very bubble observant next time i go get like well the mini bubbles are fine it's supposed to ease like those are okay death by bubble would be so so rough but you know what i thought about i'm like there's a lot of people on the street that are addicts who uh oh you're making this you're making this serious no no they but they inject themselves i'm like if a bubble would would kill someone like that you would think that would happen more often like and that would be the reason sure so i guess when he was saying that it kind of like made sense because that was always something i thought about because i always thought a bubble in the line would be a big deal i don't know why i obviously know about like you know addicts using needles and stuff on the street and stuff the first time i saw an actual syringe on the street i like ran what where like i was uh by astoria park on the strip you ran in the opposite direction yeah i was like oh like i like it was gonna like grow legs and chase me yeah it's like i don't know why but it's been like such a spoken of like vilified situation of like needles if you see a needle that i was just like i just need to get as far away from this thing as I can.

1:04:55That's so funny. I fucking sprinted brother. Do you want to hear a funny story that like is similar to that? Like how it doesn't really make sense why you would run away. Keith one time was hammered and got a sandwich and was walking home. I believe it was my like 23rd birthday or something. And he's walking home from the bar by himself and he heard the cops. They were doing something else. he heard the cops and just got so scared and and for some reason ditched his sandwich and then ran home if anything the ditching of the sandwich that's littering and i was like what did you think like did you think that they were after you and your sandwich they could have been and he's like i ditched the sandwich and i got home you know but it hammered telling me it

1:05:40Joe Santagato:was a thing growing up in historia that like if you saw the cops it was like oh they're here like what are we doing you know not that we were well there were times where we were doing stuff we could have gotten in trouble for but like i remember i remember that same sentiment just like walking down the street and the cops roll by and i'm just like oh fuck they're after me yeah like what did i do now fully knowing i did nothing there was also not a lot of cops in our neighborhood growing up yeah i feel like they and if they cared about anything it wasn't us no you know Like they were 100 % like more busy with other people.

1:06:15Were you there when they came up to us in the park? I don't know if you were there. I know Josh was there. But this is when Josh – Josh used to be mad small, dude. Like he was like tiny. And we were at the park and we were at this – this was probably around the age that you would be like drinking in the park or doing something, but we weren't doing that. And the cops just pulled up, like a DT pulled up in like an unmarked car and then just like came right into the park like would have caught us if we had shit on us. and just like came up to start shining the lights and be like, what are you guys doing?

1:06:43And then I'll never forget. We're there and the guy flashes the light towards Josh. He goes, what are you, 10? And he was like 18 years old.

1:06:52Joe Santagato:Yeah. No, that same thing happened at the lake. Do you remember that? What are you, fucking 10? Do you remember the same thing happened at the lake where they saw Josh and they were just like, oh, you're 12? You know, he did look very small for his age. Now he's huge and kick our heads off. He's pretty big, but also I could still kick his ass. I will do anything, Josh. For you to take two rounds with Frank in the gym. Let's be very clear. Josh would kill me, revive me, and then kill me again. I can't wait, dude. He's going to hit me up and be like, yeah, we should get a video. He said that to us before.

1:07:22Joe Santagato:Like, yo, standing out of the studio sparring. Just us sparring Josh. Yeah. He would take that very seriously. And he'd win. What about you two at the same time? No, we're getting them. You're getting them? Two people at the same time. In what kind of fight? It's a good question. Well, because he does all kicks. No, he punches. He strikes? Yep. All right. So what about Muay Thai? I thought Muay Thai was kicking. There is kicking. There's also punching. Plus punching. If Frank, like, tackles him. Yeah. Like, if we both, like, just tackle him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Get our paws on him. You're right.

1:07:56Joe Santagato:I think I can withstand, like, two or three punches. And I think you can withstand two or three punches. Yeah, maybe. If they're not in certain areas. You know, like, if it was just, like, bang here. In my nose, I'd be like. I think that We could get and corner him And get him down Together as a unit Before like Two on one I mean we're two grown men Yeah no it's hard It's hard The best athlete in the world Would have a difficult time with that I really wonder what he's thinking While he's editing He's editing this Like he's fucking There's no fucking way There's no It's like you fucking Ding ding ding I kick Frank's head off Here's what I fully expect Is that we're gonna get a text Going through how he would Whoop our ass he's gonna give me a fucking right cross knock my fucking mouthpiece out well he'd probably he'd probably go for my knee first because i had my knee surgery 15 years ago i don't think he has a scouting report on you he knows that we've known the kid forever we've known him for like 20 years he probably knows our weaknesses he's probably mapping this out right now and i would say though he should be more worried about me than you no no offense why i'm just i think i'm in a bigger weight class than him.

1:09:07Joe Santagato:So I just have more. Bro, do you know how much Josh weighs? The kid looks. I know what he looks like. I would say he weighs 170. I think he probably does. Yeah. And it's all muscle. But it's not. He doesn't look like that. He looks like. He might be less. But he's big. Well, because he's. Why are we doing this? He's still. Well, it's because you could be as muscular as you want and go to as much Muay Thai as you want. he's still 4 '6". I mean, I don't know that... Now you're 4 '6"? Now we're going to have to do the video. Now we're going to have to do the video, dude. Josh, we're going to rent out a gym.

1:09:46We're going to see what happens.

1:09:47Joe Santagato:He's going to text me. He's like, I have to defend my family's honor. Yeah, I can't imagine that. We'll be all right. How do we get from raccoons to that? Do you think you and I, tag team, could beat up Ant? Yeah, all right, good. As long as you know. We're saying that we could beat up Josh. Wow. What, you think he's going to beat Josh up? No. You don't think so? I'm not beating Josh up. You sure about that? Josh trains to fight. So I'll just start grabbing. What's that? Was that tits or balls? No, it was both of you. Oh, our necks? No, by the balls. What were you grabbing that you were going like?

1:10:23Joe Santagato:No, it was the balls. It was the balls. Oh, you're a dirty fighter. There's two of you. You're not. I just meant in general. Like, are you a dirty fighter? You're like, I'll grab your fucking ball. I don't give a shit. Sure. Sure or yes, brother. Don't try it. Sure or yes. For once, talk about something opposite that has nothing to do with your hat. It depends. It depends what they're doing. Yeah. But I'll grab you balls. Who's they? Both of you. Like your opponent. I'll grab you balls. I mean, so if we don't go for balls, you're not going for balls? Oh, my God. It really depends. No, there's two of you.

1:10:50I'm going for balls. You have no chance. I'm going for rifle balls. Oh. How do I defend my balls?

1:10:55Joe Santagato:Jeans? Jeans. No, you can do be tougher, though. Also, if I'm, like, spread, get that denim. If anything, sweatpants, you're better off. Baggy or sweatpants, your shit will get lost in the cloth. Am I insane? Jeans are, like, tougher to, like, get through. The denim material, sure. But I'm saying, like, if you wear, like, really baggy, like, Jenko jeans or something. I can go right up to your balls, right? No, there's a lot of cloth in between them. Okay. You wear sweatpants. I'll wear jeans. I'll wear leggings. That's actually worth it. Have you ever worn leggings? No, I don't think so. I mean, even, no, you could wear leggings.

1:11:41You've never worn, like, leggings? Thank you for giving me. No, no, no, I meant, like, I don't mean, like, women's leggings.

1:11:47Joe Santagato:Yeah, like long johns or, like, for, like, football or something. Long johns. Mormons? What are we doing? I don't know. I'm just saying. Or, like, for, like, football or something. Do you know Mormons wear like a full one-piece long john like to bed? The top of the – like as Mormon as you can get. Look that up. Mormon bedtime. Mormon bedtime clothes. Mormon bedtime clothes. Mormon bedtime clothes. I forgot what it's called, but it's like a thing. Does it have the ass flap? It may. It's not like bedtime garments. That's probably a better way to say what I wanted to say. But there's like a full – yeah, like that.

1:12:25Like this? Yeah. Yeah, it's like a whole thing. Come on, dude. Yeah. And I'm not sure why, but I sweat too much. I can't go full morning.

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1:13:21Joe Santagato:Let's unpack that a little bit. What do you mean? Stains of what? What are you doing in your sleep that you're staining your clothes? Dude, I don't know. You're fucking sweating and like your butt and your balls and like, I don't know. Are you and I on the same page here? I feel like this would be more a concern for you. For me? For him. Why? Yeah, I mean, I've spoken. You guys talk about sleeping naked all the time. And I'm like, no, that's crazy. But you're not worried about sweating in that thing and just making it look like, eh. I guess so. You sweat more than I do. So sweating is not an issue for me.

1:13:52Joe Santagato:Not at night. Are you not a sweaty boy? No, not really. Frank doesn't really sweat. I don't really sweat. Wow. Your pits sweat, though. Like, sometimes you got a white tee that, like, the corner is like, someone took a shit in it. That was the deodorant. I'm telling you right now, there was a deodorant that I was using, and I'm not going to name the name of the company. But I'm not kidding. They ruined several shirts because it, like, turned my underarms black. I'm serious. Dude, I have shirts. You've seen them. I've seen them. I'm like, yo, someone take a shit in your armpit? Yeah. And that was fully the deodorant because I've used other deodorant that doesn't happen.

1:14:26So even if that is true, we don't know, alleged. But even if that's true, you putting the shirt back on, that counts.

1:14:33Joe Santagato:Yeah, I have detachment issues. I'm sure. That's fair. You have detachment issues even with white t-shirts that have shit armpits? Yeah, because I remember where and when I got those shirts. A pack of white tees? Yes. Some of them I don't. Do you really not? I know that you don't for things, but what's a ridiculous thing that you can acknowledge is ridiculous, but you don't throw those things out? I mean, I have boxers from when I was in middle school. Yeah, I know that. But is there a weird item? I mean, I have shirts that no longer fit me. At a point in time, I was a medium. Right. what the hell was that i have you know but they're like nice shirts still that i'm like i'm just gonna keep this and i don't do the whole like if i go to be a medium again but just like i'm not getting rid of this why because because if those threads could talk they'd tell the story of my life they can't i know but if they could but what does that mean what does that count towards i Wait, so hold on.

1:15:44This is interesting to me, honestly. Sure. A shirt that you have that's a medium, and it's not a particularly like... It's a blue shirt.

1:15:52Joe Santagato:It's a nice shirt. I got some nice shirts. No, no, I'm saying just like a shirt, though, that's like a blue shirt. Sure. There's like nothing crazy about it. Okay. Hanes, blue shirt. Okay. You wouldn't throw it out, even though it doesn't fit you. There's not this like pattern on it that's like, whoa. It's just that it's your shirt. Yep. And you won't throw that out. Yep. So you haven't thrown out a shirt ever? No, of course I have. There are some shirts I make exceptions. And if I throw a shirt out that is non-donatable, like it's like no one's going to take this, I rip it like Hulk Hogan. Also, when I say throw out clothes, I mean donate.

1:16:24Joe Santagato:I donate most of the clothes that I get rid of. I donate every single piece of clothing. Well, no. There are certain ones that you, like, shouldn't. Do you know I donated that Gucci shirt? Yes, you told me that. And good for whoever got that. I know. Whoever got this. I'll donate literally anything. I will too. But like a white, like raggedy t-shirt that has fucking pit stains and shit like that. I'm not donating that. Well, yeah. I'm tearing it like I'm Hulk Hogan. Yes, I think that's a great way to kind of go about that. But what separates a shirt? So it's only a shirt that's like, why are you willing to part with someone?

1:17:02Joe Santagato:Did I wear it for something specific? Like, is there something about it that I can remember? you know like for instance I have an old pair of like Nikes but they're like like I use them for like mowing the lawn and stuff like that and I recently got a new pair of shoes and I went to go throw these out and I looked at the shoes and there is a little paint stain on it and it was from when I painted Ruby's first nursery and I was like oh well now I have to keep these forever because it ties it back to something right if that wasn't there yes all the times I wore it all the times I did this and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

1:17:38Joe Santagato:Right. It would still be meaningful. But now that I see the thing and it brings it back to a specific, I'm like, oh, well now these are mine forever. Okay. Which I understand. Let's talk about the potential situation of you throw it out anyway. Yeah. Like, I don't want to say that someone did that because I can see how you would be upset by that. But like, what happens if you do throw them out? If you're like, know I'm just gonna throw them out their shoes and like I get it there's like an attachment to the paint cool whatever but you kind of let them go like what is that how does that make you I think that they're just there's a time where you just feel like it's time to let them go and you let them go I mean eventually in theory like they will forever be energy in the universe and that doesn't take that from that because let's say I throw out a pair of shoes let's say they're donated to somebody else somebody else has them eventually through time they'll get melted or burnt down through you know a landfill or something that energy goes out into the air and it's forever in the universe in our ever expanding universe so there is a time where i can allow it to continue its process into being a part of it around us or i could light it on fire myself and i can inhale the fumes i'm not saying i'm doing that because that might not necessarily be good for me but it's something it is yeah inhaling shoe fumes yeah yeah no i wouldn't I wouldn't suggest you do that.

1:19:01Joe Santagato:I haven't and won't. So what is the reason why? Because this thing that you just said where you give something away or you donate it, it becomes garbage, it gets melted, the energy is still, you talk about the energy or whatever. Why do you need all of that on your personal? If that's something that you believe. I don't need all of it. I don't. I mean, you keep a lot. I keep a lot. Not all of it. There are stuff like literally like as time passes, I get rid of other stuff. I just did it when we moved to our new house. Like I took the time to go through my old stuff and literally like I was, all right, it's time for this to go.

1:19:40Joe Santagato:All right, it's time for this to go. Is it a time thing? It is. I think it is a time thing and it's also a relevance thing. Like I am probably way more inclined to get rid of something about like from my own personal life than like from like that has to do with like the kids and Becca, you know, because like that is more relevant and meaningful. now like compared to a fucking you know empty beer bottle I had for my 21st birthday why because that thing that it's just one of those things I find like if I'm going to be sentimental about this stuff I'd rather you're less sentimental about yourself yes I'm more sentimental now about the family that I have and like stuff like that so like stuff that I have of my own I'll be like oh yeah okay but it's a time thing it's a time and relevance thing it's interesting you're just throw it out you just get rid of it no i don't it's not like that i mean i think that the way my mind works is if i found these shoes and it was like there was a piece of paint on there from a thing to me there's not enough of an attachment to the overall like there has to be something else like i don't need every single thing that reminds me of that to yeah exist in my like i would want something of course yeah i i mean it's just i i think it's obviously subjective person to person like in that moment if paint got on six things would you keep all of them probably not you would pick one yeah okay i would say yeah but um because you're like all Right, the paint splatter.

1:21:17Yeah, because the one paint splatter

1:21:19Joe Santagato:reminds me of everything included in that. You know what I mean? So like... Did you throw out the brushes? That's a big paint. No, I still got the brushes. Okay. I cleaned them out, so they're still the brushes that I use to paint all the kids' rooms. Right. So eventually I'll be like, this is the brush. And your kids are going to go, Dad, please. Get rid of it. We do not get rid of it. I'm like afraid. Here's an example. My God, you're going to have a museum of your own life in your house. Yeah. I mean, is that not what houses are? When you move out, like, don't your parents give you, like, here's all your shit that I kept.

1:21:51Joe Santagato:You can do whatever you want with it. I know. No? Your parents didn't do that? My mom has stuff, but not, like, a lot of things. She has, like, folders of, like, you know, shit and, like, old, like, school projects, maybe. That's fair. We have, like, some clothing. But there's nothing like, oh, this is the wallpaper from your room growing up. I'd be like, what the fuck am I going to do with that? I'm also, let's be very clear. I acknowledge that I'm probably a little too intense about this stuff I'm like that's totally fine I'm just trying to understand the the mentality behind it the mentality is just like I am very much so into the idea of like you know like you tell stories and like you're basically right now like if someone were to meet you like you don't know that person but you have a collection of stories and things that you've been with and been through and blah blah blah blah that makes and contributes to who you are.

1:22:44Joe Santagato:And to me, these relics, these items that I hold on to, allow me to kind of bring myself back to those moments, back to those memories. Where was I? What was going on? What was our life like? Oh my God, we were expecting Ruby. And then like we were, oh, do you remember how intense? You're like, it just, it kind of fuels the fire of the story. And then eventually that fire gets dimmer and dimmer and dimmer. And then maybe you pick up something and you're like, oh my god and it comes back and rejogs your memory yeah sometimes i mean think of how many stories you probably stopped telling that you just forgot about yeah so you got to keep that candle burning i don't think that i i i personally don't feel like i need to okay i think that like that's that's probably okay yeah i don't think there's any right or wrong way to do it yeah no i also think i i know i are you worried is that like the worry though you're worried about you'll forget something sometimes i mean i but that's not why that's not like propelling me to do this stuff sometimes there is the worry of like oh man like what if i forget let me tell it again to like but then also it's just like i don't know there's like uh for instance i have you know one of ruby i i don't have one i have five of ruby's pacifiers from when she was a baby eventually i'll only have one because i know eventually i'll be like i don't need all five of these but like when i have a physical object it's like to me it's like a sense of like time travel like I can go back to be like oh my god like this was the thing that she and and us and at the time like it just to me it feels like there is more to this item it's like the idea of like if you were to go and buy a dinosaur bone you know yeah you go buy a dinosaur bone it's just like yo this is from this time yeah think of the time that it's lasted where was it all that like there's more to it so i definitely understand that i guess the i like i i get what you're saying and i agree with you um the part that i think that makes you stand out as far as that goes is maybe the amount and the i guess the items like very specific niche items yeah so it's like that's why i'm wondering the mentality behind that because i of course like the pacifiers like i wouldn't be surprised if you kept all of them like that to me you know especially with like your young children they're young ones keep everything like like you know i mean obviously but the uh but like you know your your shirt that that was a size medium that of course would never you know like you're never gonna like wear it again and it's just like a shirt or whatever and it reminds you of something like still the idea that i have to keep this too well that's what i'm interested it's also with clothing in particular it's also like i can offer it to my kids one day like miles maybe one day he'll want the shirt and if he doesn't then we can get rid of it because then there's no point for me to have it like but is that the reason you're keeping it or why you chose to keep it like at that time i would say 50 50 but you probably kept that shirt at a time where miles didn't exist uh i mean i i see what you're saying no but i see what you're saying but my mentality is just like oh it's an old shirt i've had this shirt forever i'm gonna keep it maybe one day he'll want it if he doesn't then basically the clock expires on both of those things and it could be time to get rid of it okay yeah and do you do you have anyone in your life that's like that too hmm probably not to the extent that i am i think i definitely have people in my life like i think it is a part of my family like we all like took things from our our childhood home and stuff like that but i think i am probably like younger though i mean like when you were younger like when i was younger did you see anyone doing this and you're like oh i like this i don't think so i really do think and as all things tend to with me it all comes back to my megazords i really do think that seeing toy story 3 and realizing like oh those toys that i played with at that age are now gone uh-huh put me more in probably a concentrated position to just be like let me hold on to it as long as i can and then i want to get rid of it at my time i'm not blaming my mom but i am blaming my mom pixar is to blame really and my mom

1:27:07Joe Santagato:okay interesting and joey's just like oh what's this my kid's birth certificate fuck this and he'll burn it and rip it. No, I'm not like that. No, I know, I know. I'm about to be a child. Do you do that? Do you keep stuff? No. I feel like I'm good at detaching from it unless someone gifted me something maybe. If it's their time and their money and their thought, I'm more likely to save it, I suppose, than anything I have. Yeah. I think also there's been times in the past five years that I do a secret Santa with my friends and sometimes you get a gift and you're kind of like, I'm never going to get into this.

1:27:45And I'm okay with getting rid of that pretty suddenly. Not like that day, but like I'm just – it's just not for me. And like I just don't – I don't even think that the gift was given with this like this is all of me here, this item. So I'm like okay with kind of detaching from stuff like that.

1:28:02Joe Santagato:Yeah, I guess I get that. But I'm like you. If someone gives me a gift, I am like – even if I'm not crazy about it, like I'm going to keep it. I'm going to wear it. I'm going to – like that's just because it's a representation of what that person thinks. I mean, now, if they get me something like, here, whatever, you know, like, it's clearly like a, you know, like a non-thought-out thing, a bit different. Still going to keep it, though. I don't know. Like, I guess I don't know if this is weird, but, like, so, like, when people send things to my P.O. box, like, I'm more likely to keep that than something like a family member got me as a gift.

1:28:33Yeah, that is, if anything, it would be opposite. Yeah, I know, but it's, like, I don't know. I just feel like it feels like an extra thought and, like, an extra purpose.

1:28:40Joe Santagato:Did that hat come in the P.O. box? No, this, well, no, no, it did not. Yeah, I really wonder what it is. I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I only keep stuff that really moves me. If I got something and it felt like it really moved me, then I'd keep that, but I don't know that I have that many moments. We just got to get him more things, Frankie. That's what he's saying. We want to get him more things. This is my issue around his birthday and Christmas. I'm like, what do you get the guy that fucking got it all? I don't know. I don't, but I don't, I don't even like items. Yeah, he doesn't like things.

1:29:17I don't like items. So we got to get him experiences? No. You got to get him time. Get him time?

1:29:23Joe Santagato:You, you're, you've, you've always said that like one of your love languages is like quality time. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. So like bring it, bring a sleeping bag and just show up to his place. Be like, this is your gift. I'll do that. I'm going to stay here for a week and a half. I'll tell you what. You want to talk about a gift that'll get thrown out immediately. here's my sleeping bag what sleeping bags are cool i used to have a ton dude i used to sleep in a sleeping bag in my own home that's sad no it was fun it was like camping oh okay but you can't you know i had a bed i thought you were doing the whole like i slept on the floor for the first six years of my life no no i would just i would sleep in the basement be like he's spreading lies about you no no i had a bed but i would be like oh this is fun i'm camping and i'd fucking sleep in a sleeping bag in the basement.

1:30:09Joe Santagato:Everyone used to do that. Yeah. The only difference between us is I kept the sleeping bag. Probably. Or a shred of it. You know what this is? This is a feather that was in the sleeping bag. I have. I was just texting my brothers and sister about this yesterday. You know what? I actually got a text from my sister the other day. She sent a photo of this poster. poster of do you remember like the first time that i ever hosted like a club night and i had a poster it was the night before thanksgiving wasn't it yeah oh no my mom sent it to me and she goes i just found this and she's like do you want to keep it i was like no i pulled this out of my uh one of my keepsake boxes the other day it's my childhood pillowcase i can't see there's a glare send me that oh it's just a pillowcase yeah send me that quick It's a Toon Squad pillowcase.

1:31:03Joe Santagato:Why? I'm just going to send it to Josh. Oh, okay. That's a cool pillowcase. Yeah. The other side is the Monstars. Did your blanket be Monstars 2? What was that sentence? Did my blanket be Monstars 2? Did your blanket be Monstars 2? Dude, look up the Space Jam bedspread. I remember that. Did you have that? Yeah, that's what that is. That's what that is. That's why I'm thinking about it because I remember that. But I think about, oh, my little childlike head laid on this. Like, oh my God, this is a relic of time. I could put my head on it. And am I a kid again? It's so funny because I don't have that because it's me.

1:31:42I would have that if it was like, oh, this is Abraham Lincoln's pipe. But you're like, this is my pipe.

1:31:46Joe Santagato:I'd care less about it if, honestly, honestly, honestly, I'd care less if it was Abraham Lincoln. Really? Yeah. Because I don't give a fuck about him. I'm not him. He's not me. I am him. Let's be honest about that. I'm not him, though. Yes. You're not capital H. No, no, no. I am capital H. No, because God is him. Oh. He is risen. They. It's 2025. I don't know. That is fair. Well, there's no real way to get out of that conversation. We just kind of have to hop out of that. We went from Mormon bedtime garments to this. We did. There's a lot of range in this episode. But thank you so much for watching.

1:32:24Frank, where can they find you?

1:32:27Joe Santagato:United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru, Republic, Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador, too, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Guiana, and still, Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina, then Ecuador, Chile, Brazil, Costa Rica, Belize, Nicaragua, Riverbunia, Bahamas, Tobago, San Juan, Paraguay, Uruguay, Surveiname, Africa, Guiana, Barbados, and Guam. I think he took up my time. Yeah, I think he did too. Thank you guys so much for listening. I wish you would cut me off sooner. We hope that you guys are able to hear this episode over Ant screaming about his hat the entire time, but we appreciate it.

1:32:58Give us the time to talk. Thank you so much for watching, and we'll see you next time.

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