Kyle Walker: Man City Career, Pep Guardiola’s Genius & Arsenal’s Corners | The Overlap Exclusive

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3:17I never judge myself as a right back, as you know, but there are people who I respect enormously in the game who would sort of say Kyle Walker is the greatest English fullback ever. And I can't disagree with it. I think the games that I've seen him play against the likes of Mbappe, Vinicius Jr., he's done things on a football pitch as a right back that I couldn't do. So when I look at the fact, would I want Kyle Walker defending against Vinicius Jr. over Gary Neville, 100%. 100%. He's the best left winger in the world. There might be situations where I say maybe Gary Neville would suit in terms of sort of like, I think I could organise defences, I think I could organise people in front of me, but Kyle's obviously got good vocals on him as well.

3:56But I think I knew where I was on the pitch. Kyle's come from a centre-forward, true sort of like flying machine down the line to being a right-back that, to be fair, could defend against the best. 9-6 caps for England. Getting to semi-finals and finals, winning the treble with City, you can't deny that he's the greatest full-back that England have ever produced because of the fact the stats are there to prove it. His pace and his ability to defend 1v1 was incredible. if he was someone who just attacked and didn't defend properly I would sort of say no I'm probably putting myself in front of him he could properly defend and by the way he had to learn that because there were times at Tottenham when he was younger where he didn't quite know the position as well but when he got to City for about 4, 5, 6 years he was at a real high level

4:44How are you? Good?

4:45Kyle Walker: All good

4:50It's mad I always get nervous at the start of these interviews, you know. Doesn't matter how many of you do. I'm getting there. Honestly, it's unbelievable. Why? I don't know, I just end up... It's true, everyone I've ever done. But it's just something that takes you out of your comfort zone. What about when you're doing when...

5:05Kyle Walker: I don't know, you're doing the other podcasts, when there's other guests on there? Stick to football? Yeah. Oh, that's easy. That's easy? Yeah, oh well. Because you just feel like you're having a chat with your mates? Yeah, because they come in and ask questions because there's five of you, like Gareth last week. I just know him as that. that is just him like I remember we'd go to away games he didn't drink like that's one thing he's never done is drink he's never drunk and he would just drink water and eat chocolate and you'd be like how are you going out and doing what you're doing but he was just like it makes me happy and I feel good like so if I'm I don't want to change like I just enjoy playing football and I think so a lot of people now I think you have to look after yourself one million percent but they forget what we actually started playing football we play football because we enjoy it But you're wired up all the time, aren't you?

5:52You're told what to eat, when to eat. I mean, we were a little bit like that towards the end, but it was getting to an uncomfortable point, I thought. I thought, it's hard work.

6:00Kyle Walker: I can't do it. I eat what I want. It's hard work. I can't because I think if you take that and I start living like a robot with it... Yeah. I wouldn't enjoy football as much. I wouldn't enjoy... Find your wages. Let's pay me. We're hard done to, aren't we?

6:25Kyle Walker: I'm fuming. Yeah, yeah. I'm not playing. I know I'm not playing the night before. I've had to sleep on that. But then I'm also thinking I've got to write a speech for the lads to make sure that they're going out and winning this Champions League for me. What is the genius of Pep Guardiola? It's the simple things that make the big difference. Having won the Premier League, beat Manchester United in the FA Cup final. Pardon? Yeah. Being Manchester United in the FA Cup final. We'll edit that bit out. It's always been a dream of mine to play Sheffield United again. How hard is it to mark Arsenal's court?

6:57Kyle Walker: Horrific. Horrific. What is it? They set them up down the back. It's weird. The movement is just not normal in football. I've caused it completely. If they've overstepped to mark a little bit, I'd probably say yeah.

7:17you played at the highest level you've won trebles you've won six Premier League titles you've won 96 England caps you've got to finals of the tournament there's no debate and that when people say that the debate about between me and you I couldn't have played against Mbappe and Vinicius Junior the thing I bring it down to is not the trophies we've all won pretty similar both won a treble both won multiple Premier Leagues both had a lot of games for England I don't believe your 11 extra caps for England makes you a better player than me but what does make you I think a better fullback than me is the fact that when I watched you against Vinicius and against Mbappe I wouldn't have handled those two but that's my quality now you could cross a ball better than me and put a ball in the box I always come down to it I always have a go at modern fullbacks that can't defend so what I've got to do is then say when you're playing against the greatest in the world which Mbappe and Vinicius are you could handle the greatest in the world of your time I would have needed a couple of players around me

8:14Kyle Walker: that's how I differentiate me and you in terms of saying that you are I don't think modern day footballers like to defend I don't think modern day, not footballers, full backs I think modern day full backs now are a midfielder gone back there I would judge a defender, I would judge a right back if I see a right back getting done on a one on one regular or at the back post regular or giving goals away regular I don't care what they do going forward really but I do, if they're that special like Trent, you do. But I'll be honest with you, I'm going to probably give them a little bit of beef if they're giving goals away.

8:45So I think you have to still watch your corner, watch your back post and close your side down. So you did that. I mean, literally Pep left you back there for about six or seven years, knowing full well that no one was counter-attacking against you on them corners. Anyway, let's talk about right back. And to be fair, you brought it on to the discussion now. when I first watched you as a right back you played at Tottenham probably when I first watched you you're a completely different right back you're flying forward you're lightning quick you're going I mean at that point I wouldn't have said you were probably the best defensive right back at that point defensive errors, I've made errors to be fair we can have an open discussion because you've improved to be at a level where you'd have been the best right back I think in the world defensively but I always thought when the ball was on the opposite side and at the back post That was the conversation I used to have with you.

9:38Sometimes your biggest danger is when the ball's over there, you've got to be doing that all the time. But you improved so. Talk me through that journey of improvement and obviously going from playing at Tottenham, the expectation levels at Tottenham, compared to then going to City.

9:51Kyle Walker: I think Tottenham was more... You had a good conversation with Gareth. I think it was just go and play. Go and play. Go and play. We had very good players in the team. and we kind of gelled together well enough to be where we was. I think once the likes of Modric, Gaz, Aaron Lennon, Defoe, they then petered out and the new generation came in of Dele Alli, Harry Kane, Christian Eriksen, Moussa Dembele. We took it a step higher because we was all hungry and eager to obviously prove that we should be playing for Tottenham Hotspur. But I had lapsed in concentration And I blame it down to Just being not experienced enough Just young Just young Just young And I was learning my trade I think once I got to Man City I was older How did that come about?

10:50Kyle Walker: The City move Well I had a good season I had a good season at Tottenham I was playing in the back Back three, back five As you want to call it Me and Danny Rose On the full back scenario and I got a call one day from Cheeky saying that they would want to sign me. I'm not going to say that I was umming and ahming. I wasn't umming and ahming for one bit, but I was sceptical because I was comfortable. I was comfortable. And to go there with Pep Guardiola, you're thinking, do you need this? Not do you need it, but are you ready for this step? But I was 27, so it was kind of, It was now or never. Yeah.

11:34Kyle Walker: Did other clubs come in? Chelsea. Who's the manager of Chelsea at that point? Conte. Oh. Yeah. Very different styles, eh? Yeah, Marina, I think. Yeah, Marina. Yeah. I was speaking to her, but I couldn't have gone there. Because of the Tottenham Chelsea thing? Because of the Tottenham Chelsea thing. So I wouldn't have gone there. So the only option was Manchester City. I think Bayern was kind of flirting with it a little bit. and I think just as what Bale said as well, that Daniel wanted to send me over to Germany because he didn't want to sell me to a competitor. But as soon as I spoke with Pep and everything like that and you kind of knew that the project that he was wanting to do did ever foresee that we would achieve what we achieved.

12:18Kyle Walker: Completely not. Completely not. But I knew that it was the right time for me to make that jump and I had to sink or swim. What was the first conversation like with Pep? What did he want from you? Was it a football conversation or a personal conversation? No, it was a football conversation. I can't completely understand, but he said that he wants me and he needs me. I think that they obviously just got into the Champions League the season before. I've said this story before, but I remember getting off in the pre-season and you've got Cunny who was just like balling around training. Bad trainer, really bad trainer.

12:52Kyle Walker: Yeah, Aguero, really bad trainer, really bad trainer. But it turned it on in the game. and I remember getting back into my hotel room after and speaking to my dad and saying, I think I made a mistake here. I went from a Pochettino team of running hard and we're going to run all over you and we're going to dominate in that area and then also with a little bit of quality from certain players we're going to go and win the game. Two, I'm looking now and thinking, well, we're doing hardly any running in pre-season because Pep doesn't like running. He doesn't do any running in pre-season, have you? You get a little bit, but it wouldn't be a lot.

13:26It'd be mainly with the ball. and you'd have been used to obviously at Sheffield United Tottenham doing runs, doggies we came to watch Maurizio's training you do running during the season with Maurizio

13:37Kyle Walker: I had a famous thing called the Gakon and everyone who's had the Gakon whoever played for Tottenham will know the Gakon I think it starts at 145 metres you have 45 seconds to get there you walk up 5 metres and you have to then run back so you've got to run 145 metres in 45 seconds walk up to five metres to the next cone so now you're on you do that quicker yeah of course but all of a sudden now you're running 210 metres in 45 seconds after run so it's just a continuous thing oh and I remember it carries on so I think it was like 16 or 17 different cones on front of that the only person I've ever seen complete was Dele Alli Dele did the whole run it was an animal it was an animal at running going from that to then not running more ball work short sharp sprints, doing a little bit of power, like gym wasn't a thing at City.

14:29Kyle Walker: You didn't do gym. A pep team don't run, they don't do any strength work, not bad at football. Unbelievable at football. Do you know something, it sounds crazy, here are a lot of people complaining about sports science, don't you? About doing too much gym, too much, sort of, what would be strength work, too much running, too much physical side, and yet you've got a guy who basically is winning everything over the last ten years, who doesn't do a lot of that. But I'll tell you what, a lot of teams got a lot of injuries. Yeah. That probably, you know what I mean? I always feel that there's people in different positions and you play a completely different way.

15:05Kyle Walker: Mine is not, my position is not a plod. It's explosive. It's from walking to sprinting continuously over 90 minutes, 100 minutes of football. You make me plod up and down the line, my back's going to go. Or I'm going to feel pains in my back. so I think different people need to do different things in a training week to make sure that you're good the most important thing is whether it's on a Tuesday or Wednesday in the Champions League or on a Saturday that you're ready and nine times out of ten at City we was ready and if he wasn't ready you know that the person who sat on the bench waiting to take your shirt is going to be ready He expected you to play every three or four days he didn't change his team a lot Pep, did he?

15:45Too much, I don't think

15:46Kyle Walker: even at Barcelona he didn't change his team that much He wasn't mad but he did have the changes I think the wingers probably got it the hardest With Riyad, Raz Leroy Bernardo didn't play in the first couple of years Of his Manchester City career He was on the wing If you didn't get a goal or an assist in them As a winger, you'd be off And they all knew that So the pressure that they had to deal with Playing underneath him In getting the goals and assists was massive

16:21So what's Pep's defensive work like with you? You go from Maurizio, obviously, at Tottenham, you go to Pep, you think you're making a mistake, you reckon, in the first couple of weeks, you're like, what's going on? What are the sessions like for the defenders at Manchester City?

16:34Kyle Walker: One thing that he was really good, he said, obviously, Maserano that he had at Barca, that he said he completely couldn't get the practices that he was doing when he came from Liverpool to Barca, because it was just a different way of him training. And he kind of likened me to that and Abidal, Okay. And probably, I was probably three years until I kind of got the concept of where's the spare man? You know, what he wants to achieve in the training session. Because all I used to do at Tottenham was run up and down the wing and concentrate so much on my physical presence rather than actually concentrating on the game of football.

17:11Kyle Walker: And I said this in, we come back to the England now when, you know, Gareth played me as a right-sided centre-back in a back three. Unless I worked with him for that one year, I would have never been able to do that because I didn't think about football how I thought about it after that year with him. How does it make you think about football? What is he specifically wanting from you as a right-back? Your role did change slightly at City, didn't it? At first you were going forward, but you ended up staying back, didn't you, really? Before, you had me and Mendy. Yeah, me and Mendy bombing up and down the rims.

17:40Kyle Walker: I remember the second game, I think, of the season. We played Liverpool. They played a back three or a back five. and then we then dominated that I don't know if that was the 100 points season or not I can't quite remember 100 points the first season so all of a sudden it's like this is too easy we then did the same the next season and did the thumbing of balls and won everything in England then all of a sudden teams started to work us out so then he changed to the back three and rolling the centre back inside and I think he's constantly evolving in how he thinks the game of football is to be played but then you have to evolve at the same time as him and I think that's why he challenges all his players to do that Bernardo Silva for a prime example he's the player that gets the way that Pep's thinking the quickest out of anyone you could play him anywhere he could play he played left back against Bakaro Saka at the Emirates and you're like what is he doing but Pep knows that he can trust him in wherever he wants to play him How tough was he with you?

18:43Kyle Walker: what's the toughest he would ever have been with you very tough was he very tough in what way I like the idea of that I know that Sir Alex Ferguson was tough with us at times and tough with me on occasions tough in what way shouting demanding more everything I think there's certain players there that he shouts out for a reaction from the other players that okay he's having a go at him so we all best book our ideas up who would they be at City me one of them Jack Jack Jack will get a little bit sometimes call for sometimes not sometimes yeah Ruben Diaz you have a go at him have a go at him Eddie when he was there he'd have a go at Eddie what for what would you have a go at like Edison because Edison was unbelievable for a number of years what would you have what would you have to go at Diaz and Edison for I think it's more for the fact of getting a reaction from someone but I know that he could speak to certain other players I'm really not going to mention the names I'm not digging people out here but he could speak to certain other players and he'd lose them He's never shouting at David Silva, is he?

19:53Kyle Walker: He never needs to he never needs to shout at David Silva don't make a mistake he's just got Leroy going on his bike and David just playing it in the space but I think if he needed to like Kun he would shout at Kun all the time because Kun didn't do the tracking that Gabby Jesus would do so all of a sudden you know he'd have a go at Kun but then he'd get a reaction but then also as well when you're sat in the dressing room and he's shouting at Aguero, who's a legend of Manchester City, and you're sat there, you're thinking, well, everyone's free. You know, Yaya, when he was there, he'd have a go at Yaya.

20:23Kyle Walker: But he never favouritised anyone. But he would tell you when he needed to be told. And I think it's important. Just think about the transition. You're getting closer in the Champions League, but you're not getting over the line. And then, there's definitely a change of style, but does he explain it to you that he's going stronger because he seemed to go to four centre-backs. Yeah. How did that happen internally in terms of explaining to yourself or is it just something that he did and doesn't consult with you? Because you went from being the most diminutive team that was playing the most incredible football, you know, Leroy Sané, Sterling, Aguero, David Silva, De Bruyne and Fernandinho.

21:02Yeah. Quite six, smallish. You and Mendy are both going that way and then all of a sudden you go to this strong team with Harland up top, Rodri, you've got the four centre-backs Was it Bradial? Who was it? Laporte?

21:15Kyle Walker: No, it was Ake, Stones, Diaz and Akanji. Yeah. So you've got your four centre-backs playing in the back four. How was that? Does he explain to you why he's doing that and why he's changing? Because it leads to the treble, doesn't it? Well, he explained to me why he left me out of the Champions League finally. He pulled me. And said what? You're not playing tomorrow. And why? Because he wanted to go with, you know, the back four that it was. and also he said to me that he needed people to basically commit them to jump out into Milan. So he needed people to obviously be good on driving the ball out to commit them to then find the second line.

21:54Kyle Walker: You had John that was on fire at the time that basically did the most dribbles, I think, with Messi. He was ridiculous. Manu was very similar to me. Very similar to me. I think probably better at committing and finding the lines with both feet. and then Ruben kind of played himself, you know, strong leader at the back, you know, a rock that gels everyone together and Ake was coming off a great season as well. So I understood it, but he asked me to take a speech as well. What do you mean? I had to take a speech in the dressing room before. You made the speech? I made the speech. To be fair, I find that fascinating, really.

22:28I mean, it's incredible in some ways. Yeah. Almost genius if you can get it. So two things. What did he say to you and the reasons why he wanted you to make a speech? And what is your speech? The reason why he wanted me to make the speech is a thing that probably he's just made up in his head

22:44Kyle Walker: that he thinks he's going to motivate the lads. The rest of them? I don't know. What did I say is that your dream is in my hands. You know, I've got my dream is in your hands now. You know, at the start of the speech, I was nervous. Oh, you would be, wouldn't you? I was nervous, but it's something that I've dreamed of. Obviously, getting close against Chelsea. Win the Premier League once you win one. obviously you can say you've ticked off you do want to go and win another but this is the one thing that having won the Premier League beat Manchester United in the FA Cup final pardon? yeah beat Manchester United in the FA Cup final we'll edit that bit to then go and do this treble and not do it it'd have been a catastrophe it'd have been an absolute nightmare it'd have been a nightmare and we had to do it so in all fairness do I want to be on the pitch?

23:38Kyle Walker: Of course I do but you're my what I've dreamt about now is in your hands and I can't do anything about it so what am I going to do? Soul can be in the corner and not be the one of the leaders that I'm meant to be I need to obviously man up listen it's a decision like I've just had to experience with England and stuff like that sometimes in life you're not going to experience things that you like to hear it's fact but you're going to have to deal with it and it's a decision that another manners made which he feels is best for the team. And I have to respect that decision. Is that something that you would do regularly?

24:12Kyle Walker: I mean, does... I take it that you have a player speaks before every game in the city, is that right, or is it just before the big games? No, no, it's never happened before in the dressing room. He's never asked a player to make his... No, never. Vinny would have done something, of course, Fernandinho. The captains would have done something. Mainly it would have been Pep doing the talk before we went out onto the field, yeah. So it's something that was quite unique. I mean, Champions League final. Champions League final. Not sat in my room the night before writing things down and what I'm going to say.

24:45Kyle Walker: Because I'm trying to gee the lads up and everything like that, but I'm also, I'm fuming. Yeah, yeah. I'm not playing. I know I'm not playing the night before. Normally, Pep kind of gives his team probably, you know, the meeting just before you go to the game. So all of a sudden he's dropped the bomb to me and named the team. I've had to sleep on that. But then also I'm thinking I've got to write a speech for the lads to make sure that they're going out and winning this Champions League for me. But luckily we did. And I can say that my speech helped. What is the genius of Pep Guardiola? People talk about the genius of Pep Guardiola and we all know that that word is used regularly about him.

25:22What is the genius of Pep Guardiola when you've worked with him so closely? It's the simple things that make the big difference.

25:33Kyle Walker: the simple pass the simple decision of not turning the ball in stupid areas or he likes to third man running that's his big thing and finding the spare man and I've said it before that football is never man v man people say it's man v man it's not man v man because you've got a keeper in one net and a keeper in another yet now all of a sudden if you've got the ball and you're playing with the keeper you've got a man up so if they come man v man we played against Bielsa's Leeds once and I can remember him saying to Laporte if no one comes to you run the ball directly to the goal and it will just open lo and behold in the game he ran the ball to the goal it just opened so the types of information that he gives you it just plays out in the game and I think that's what he does so well in giving you the right information where you don't have to think about anything but just to follow his orders, really.

26:33Is there ever a time where you've seen him not know what to do or think, not sure you got that right? Because, obviously, he's done everything, hasn't he? We know how good he is and we've seen it. I used to turn up to City games for Sky and think, this is just an inevitability. You're never dropping a point. Of course he has.

26:52Kyle Walker: And I think he would be... Would you ever admit that in the dressing room if you got it wrong? Yeah, yeah. He's so approachable. He's so approachable. I have many chats with him, many chats. Even now? Even now, I go into the training ground now. My son's there, he plays for the under-10s. And I go, and it's like I've never left. So they let me in. I go and eat food. I went and had a conversation with him probably two weeks ago and sat in his office for an hour, just talking, just in life in general. But I think that's one thing that's very good and that they need to probably carry on for the rest of it is that us players have changed that club and built what we've built over the last eight years.

27:29Kyle Walker: I don't know what it's like when you go back to United, but they can't forget what we've done. And they won't forget what they've done, because even the chairman, Khaldoon, has said, this is your home. This is your home. And to me, that's important. It's important because, obviously, without them, I'm not me, but without us, that group of players, City don't achieve what they've achieved.

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31:48Kyle Walker: there's at the bottom of the league I think that's the key word that you said it's mental is it tough for you? in your head to be at the club that you've been experience what you've experienced and playing with people that I've played with and this is no disrespect to Burnley whatsoever and the players there because I honestly think that there are a bunch of young men that are fantastic. The dressing room is class. I've not felt like a little bit uncomfortable, you know, as a new player and you go, you want to probably experience it, but when you're going into a new dressing room, kind of sat there, it was, you know, there was open arms and that's something that needs to stay there because it's a proper family orientated club.

32:35Kyle Walker: But the league's different. The league's different and the league's difficult. When you go into the championship or when you win the championship, how they won the championship, and you kind of can flutter through games because you know that on our team is the best players in that league and we're going to win a game or we can afford to make a mistake and we're not really going to get punished for it. But in the Premier League, you make a mistake when you've got the likes of Mo Salah, Erling Haaland and these players, they're going to punish you at any given moment. That's where we've probably fell a little bit short this season in not turning up into some of the games where we need to probably collect the points, but also as well giving away stupid goals and situations what's not really helped us out.

33:17Kyle Walker: But as for a team and as for a club and an organisation, you know, everyone's been really, really good. You've announced your retirement for international football today. Have you considered retiring from football full stop yet? Or do you think you want to go on for another few years and played? I'd like to. It's always been a dream of mine to play Sheffield United again. It's always been. I think to start there at six and finish there at 19 when I went to Tottenham. So you're going to go back to Sheffield United? I hope so. I hope so. I don't know when that will be. I don't know if they will want me.

33:53Kyle Walker: So you're going to go on for a good few more years yet? I don't know. I don't know. I feel once, I don't know what it was like for you, but once that time in my head comes where I'm done, I'd have to be true to myself. Yeah. And what's Carragher saying? Leave the game before the game leaves you. That's what's in my head. And now he's saying leave the Pundish before the Pundish leaves you because he's got some heroes doing well. Leave the game before the game leaves you. How are your legs then? Your back? How are you? I feel good. You feel good, yeah. I'm 36 in May. I was shot to pieces. I was done.

34:26You're so much fitter than me naturally.

34:28Kyle Walker: It takes longer to recover, I can tell you that. One million percent. and probably now I'm probably doing a lot more defending than I've ever done in my career. But I feel good, but I think it's more for me upstairs. It's more for me upstairs and you fight your little battles in your head if you can keep doing it and if people look at you saying, or if people are saying, oh, Flippin, what's he doing still playing football and stuff like that? And I kind of don't want to tarnish what I've done, but I also have a level of respect for myself that I'll do it on my terms. I'm not letting outside noise reflect what I want to do as a footballer because it's a short career and people don't understand that.

35:10Kyle Walker: It's been inherited in us from the age of six when I started. I never played grassroots. I played Sheffield United and that was it. And all of a sudden, if you take that away from me, what am I going to do? What do I go into? I've not done anything else in my whole entire life except football. So it's a big part of me and to let it go, it's hard, but sometimes you have to let it go when you're not good enough anymore. Can I ask you about the outside noise? Because you've had an incredible amount of outside noise. Yeah. You have, haven't you? And to be fair, to the point whereby it must have been significantly uncomfortable.

35:41Kyle Walker: Yeah. How do you deal with that and how do you sort of reflect upon that? I think as footballers you develop very tough skin. I think with the social media platforms and everything like that now, you develop a tough skin where you kind of have to... I can't read everything online. I can't read anything online. And when I'm wrong, I'm completely wrong. I'm completely wrong and I deserve every bit of criticism that I should get thrown my way. But sometimes I think that the outside world and the media push the boundaries a lot and they take away your fact as a human. You know, when my wife or myself or my kids are walking down the street and you've got paparazzis jumping out on you.

36:26Kyle Walker: I've caused it completely and you can write your articles about me but they're just kids that don't really need it. And my wife is just a normal girl from Sheffield. She doesn't really need it, but I've put them in that situation myself, so I have to take accountability for that. And how do you feel about that? To be fair, they were having a field day with you for a period. But they just let it run on, didn't they? It was just like it went on for weeks and it kind of weren't really... It was a story. It was a story, of course it was a story, but it wasn't really as long as people liked to click.

37:02Kyle Walker: When people click, they see that people are clicking, they then continue to write. And unfortunately, that's just been my fault. It's been my fault, but I think if they've overstepped a mark a little bit, I'd probably say yeah. I'd probably say yeah. It's interesting, I was listening to Virgil van Dijk about three or four weeks, so I don't know if you saw it, and he said about social media, just on young players. Yeah, it's worse. It's going to get worse. You said it's the absolute worst. Were you a little bit protected from that city in the sense, because you were so successful? Everybody, to be fair, most of the time was praising you for the football.

37:36They couldn't do anything but. But is there, like, you know, the likes of Jack Grealish you mentioned earlier, Phil Foden, they get a lot of attention, a lot of criticism if it doesn't go well for them. Did these lads need protecting from it? Should they read it?

37:50Kyle Walker: Should they have their own accounts? No, I don't think they should have their own accounts. I don't think, they don't need to. like for obviously I remember one of your interviews I do watch a lot of your interviews but one of your interviews when you used to obviously say about you know it's not a generic post but you know now you look at it and it's like do I really need a 20 year old a 21 year old reading that sort of stuff that people are saying about you I don't think they do but this generation of footballers the next generation of footballers that are coming it's only going to get worse because Because everyone is entitled to an opinion that they can send to you now.

38:28Kyle Walker: When I first started at Tottenham, there was nothing like that. I think Twitter just came in. But no one, you kind of got your opinion from the paper and that was it, it was done. You know, you don't get your opinion from, you know, 3 million, 4 million, 5 million followers that follow you on Instagram that can just send you a direct message but are not accountable for what they're saying. And I just think that we need to protect the young footballers now that are coming through. the likes of Phil Folden, Cole Palmer and stuff like this because there are a generation that we're depending on and going and winning tournaments and if we're just constantly peppering them and putting so much pressure on them they're not going to play football correctly What does the end of your career look like as in what do you do beyond football?

39:12I mean you're getting to 36 now it's obviously you're going to play for a few more years you can see you've got another year at Burnley you've got a two year contract at Sheffield United that I've just negotiated for you Perfect, top. So you're 39. What is Kyle Walker going to do? You're doing your coaching badges, you said before.

39:28Kyle Walker: Yeah, I'm doing my coaching badges just because I want to have that as a string in my bow. It's not that I'm going to go into coaching or I want to go into coaching, but I feel that if I could give back again, I think you're kind of knowing my personality. I'm not really about me so much. I'm more about the game of football. And I know it's cliche for me to say, and it's probably like, oh, he's just saying what you want. I'm really not. I do everything for the love of playing football because if there wasn't football, from where I grew up, I didn't have anything. I want to give something back and if I can help one player, whether that's not technically, but just mentally, I always say everyone can play football and you've probably met a lot of players that have come through the game of football, but I think you make it up here.

40:11Kyle Walker: Your top 10%, you make it as a football player, wherever you can deal with pressure, criticism, ups and downs in your career, injuries. Unless you can't get over that, I don't think you'll ever reach the top.

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42:51And he said he found it. I watch the Premier League every week, Kyle, and you're playing it every week. I don't find it boring. I actually found it boring a few years ago when I saw a team trying to copy what City were doing. And they were passing it along the back, and I felt everyone was dropping the centre-backs to the six-yard box. And teams at the bottom of the league were doing it. And I was like, what is this? It's nonsense. But people are genuinely turning against the game a little bit. in this period now, because of the long throws, because of the set pieces, because of the amount of time it's taken, because of VAR, what do you think?

43:25I actually don't mind long throws, to be fair. What's your view on it in terms of the game, and how it is right now in terms of playing in the Premier League?

43:35Kyle Walker: I think with the long throws and the set pieces and stuff like this, you know, you look at Arsenal. For example, everyone's talking about Arsenal, that they're doing the reset piece team. it's allowed in football. It's allowed. If you get a corner, you have to take a corner, and if you score from a corner, well done. How hard is it to mark Arsenal's corners? Horrific. Horrific. They set them up down the back. It's weird, but the movement is just not normal in football. And when you're constantly looking over your back, when you're seeing, you know, Gabriel Saliba, these big six-foot-four men running at you.

44:11Kyle Walker: I mean, I remember I got done on a goal at City. You know, he's trying to touch me, and I'm slapping him away. and all of a sudden, one movement there, one movement behind, I've lost him. I've lost him. And you were man-to-man, were you? We was a zonal, let's say. Zonal, okay. But he put me on Gabriel because I... Just to hold him. Just to hold him and try him. But, you know, you kind of think, he's not scoring this one. He's not scoring this one. Goal. I remember JT did it to me at Tottenham when we was playing them and obviously he knew me from England and stuff like that. He was putting me at JT.

44:44Kyle Walker: Yeah, and he said to me, I want to score this one. I think no chance. And he scored. And he scored. And he scored. That's bullying. He's bullying. I was only 20 coming through. He could have left me alone. But I just think that it's just part and parcel. Football, and you'll probably still be doing the punditry, and in three years' time, it'll change again. It'll change again, and it'll go back maybe to playing football, or you might get something else. So it's just a phase. It's just a phase of football that you go through and that people kind of think that works, and all of a sudden something else will work.

45:17Kyle Walker: And I think I look back to my first years at City, to my last years at City, it's a completely different team. We had Bernardo, David, very technical players and now all of a sudden it's powerhouses. But it's just football. It's just football. It's interesting. You've played against City and against this current Arsenal team. You've also got a major allegiance towards City. Do you think Arsenal have got what it takes to get over the line this year? They've put themselves in a good, obviously, a very, very good position. And do I think that Arsenal are well more equipped this year than what they have in the previous years?

45:57Kyle Walker: Yes, definitely. Were they harder to play against than this current City team this year when you played for Burnley? No. You thought City were harder to play against? Yeah. Just because of football? I think City know what they're doing and it's ingrained in them Because there's a core group of players there that know what is needed and wanted from the manager, which will be you isolate your full-backs 1v1 and the wingers will probably nine times out of ten win you the game. I think Arsenal... I've worked with Mikel at City and I think Mikel's took a lot of things from Pep in the way that he coaches.

46:39Kyle Walker: What bits do you think you can see coming through most? It's the formation, it's the up, back and throughs, it's the set the ball, don't turn on the ball. What's that mean? Because I've watched football for a long time. Set the ball and don't turn the ball. So set the ball, don't turn on it. So you know when we was, as a youth team, he was getting the half-turn, we see it on the back foot game. He hates it. Pep hates that. Hates? He's hitting the ball in the half-turn? Hates it. But David Silva did that and De Bruyne for years. David Silva could do it. David Silva could do whatever he wanted to do.

47:08Kyle Walker: Kevin De Bruyne would never really get the ball in turn I think you've watched enough of his games He let the ball run past him He would never receive the ball in turn Very rarely He would then run to a We're going to call it a roll-up position Normally with me Where he'd come on the wing I'd go more inside He would then come on the wing And he would turn and face the play then But in the middle So in the pocket In the pocket you give me 20 clips In a season where Kevin De Bruyne has turned on the ball I don't think you'll find it but I would say that letting it run across your body is that sort of letting it run across your body is a lot quicker it's a lot quicker so hey did you stop in the ball so to stop in the ball and turn it's too slow you slow the play down so if we're going to go quick it should be Kevin to you to you to play forward you're already facing forward so if I need to break the line I need to pass it so it's the up back and through I need to pass it back to you so then you're facing forward you can then go and attack yeah I've always thought that even Erdegaard now it's sort of at Arsenal De Bruyne not De Bruyne Foden at City I can see them a little bit on the halfton a little bit but you'd still expect them to do more to pop it off yeah and the big thing is the wingers the wingers are key you know the 1v1 isolate pin the full backs back and then it's me v you it's a game of who's going to win that battle

48:3517 questions because you've won 17 major titles. I went, has he? 17? That's what I said. I think 19. 90? You think 19?

48:45Kyle Walker: I've got six Premier Leagues, one Champions League, four League Cups, two FA Cups, two Community Shields, one Super Cup, one FIFA Club World Cup. Three Community Shields. Three Community Shields. So it's 18 then. You better get me another question. And a Championship promotion. So that's 19. 19. QPR. Yes. Did you win the championship? I won the championship. You won the league? Won the league. That's a trophy. That's 19. All right. That is a trophy to be fair. If you won them people that sort of won the playoff trophy and said that was a trophy, I'd have to probably never taken that for you. I won the league.

49:23So it is 19 then? Well, I think definitely if you won the championship trophy, that's definitely a trophy. The championship's more of a major trophy. The community shields are on the edge a little bit. The community shields are on the edge, I think, a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. How many did you win? I don't have any community shields I won. Do you want me to check you now? Justin, we... I don't think we won that many. We must have done that, eh? We must have won enough.

49:46Kyle Walker: Well, I'm claiming one of them and I weren't there. But I'm claiming one because I was part of the team. It says 20 here, Gary. You can't claim trophies that you've not won. No, I'm there. I'm part of the team. Can I claim the Champions League if I didn't stop? I came on. Do you know something? It's true that on Wikipedia, it has me as two Champions Leagues. It does, yeah. I never, ever class myself as having two Champions Leagues. I've got one. So you've got two? No, I was literally in the squad. I wasn't even on the bench. No, but you're in the squad. Oh, no, Kyle, honestly. So it's got you wrong then, because it's eight Premier Leagues, two Champions Leagues, three FA Cups, two League Cups, one FIFA Club World Cup, one Intercontinental Cup, and three...

50:26Kyle Walker: Intercontinental, what's that? No, the Intercontinental Cup was the proper World Club Cup. That was the one that was before they started the Club World Cup. So what was my... How many community shields? It said three community shields. We won the same community shields, but you didn't win one of yours, so you won two. How many leagues have you got? Eight. I think that boat's gone. No, no, no. I'm not going to catch on that one. You've won seven. I've won six. No, you've won seven. Oh, seven leagues. Because you've won the championship one. Yeah, but no, Premier League, Premier League. Right, let's go.

50:5819 questions. Because allegedly you've won 19 major trophies, but it's debatable. You've got community shields in there and everything, to be fair. All sorts of crap you put in there from City. You know what I mean? Right. Toughest opponent. I was going to ask you this, I was going to ask you this in the main interview, actually, who your toughest opponent was. Who would that be? Oh, come on. You've had to think of his name. Who caused you a problem unexpectedly? Because it wasn't, I mean, Vidicius Junior and Mbappé, you've actually dealt with those players.

51:29Kyle Walker: They're like the sort of players that you've... They're matching them. They're matching my physicality. It's like, well, who's quicker? Like, me and you, and we're just going to race and see who's the quickest. Yeah, but who's causing you a problem in a different way then? Who's causing you a problem with you? I can't get near you. Hazard. I didn't like playing against Hazard. That's interesting. Because he moved it. He was a one-two. Yeah. You know, the one-two, and it would have, obviously, one-two around you or one-two inside to then get a shot off. Typically, the Battle of the Bridge, when he went and scored that, I could probably be closer with the way that that game was going, probably hack him down.

52:03Kyle Walker: Bernard remember him who was at Shakhtar went to Everton yeah I played him in the Champions League once City and Ismaili and Bernard was the two and the tall rings around me at the Etihad I hated that I just want the ground to swallow me up and get me off the pitch as quick as possible Nasri didn't like playing against Nasri because he was in pockets he's in pockets it's the players in pockets but then Sadio Mane I hated playing against him because he was just always there I feel like you've got a yard he's back at you Yeah, never gave up with it. No, no, never gave up. But you look at, I've played against, I've been very, very lucky to play against a lot of top players, so to pick one, I couldn't.

52:42Kyle Walker: Who's the toughest now in the Premier League this season? I'm interested, you obviously had to do some defending at Burnley this year. Who's the one that you thought this year has caused you a problem? Doku. Doku. He must be horrible to play against him. Just cross it, mate. Just get rid of it. Stop taking me on. He actually goes past you, beats you, and then thinks, I'm going to beat you again three times before I cross it. I used to mark him and I don't know why Pep used to do it because he used to put him against me every day just to make my training a lot harder. And he was the one player that I just couldn't, I seriously couldn't get the better of.

53:17Kyle Walker: Because you don't want to out-muscle him, are you? Because he's strong. He's strong, low sense of gravity, he's quick. Over the first, obviously, 10, 20 yards, he's very quick. But as a defender, you're always waiting for people or you're trying to, I'm reacting off your movement. So you're the wing, I'm reacting from you. I don't know what you're going to do. I can have a certain pattern in my head of what you're going to do, but I don't 100 % know what you're going to do. And he would do this jump, and he does the jump. But the jump, it was like, you have to say, what are you doing? But it threw you off so much.

53:48I can see him when he does it on the pitch.

53:49Kyle Walker: It threw you off so much with a jump, but it's because it was like, I just don't know what he's doing now. And he'd do little movements like the step. I won't give too much away because he's my mate as well but he'd give like a step and then he'd do something but it's like that it's like you know if I'm obviously you're defending you've got me on commentary saying can't just show him down the line mate can't just show him down the line how can you let him come back inside if you can ever do like a 1v1 with him and he can show you these movements you would be blown away and it's so quick it makes me laugh sometimes I say it myself I say he's got to show him on the outside there but if you're a really good dribbler and player they go where they want don't they It's like you've got to really almost like over cover to show them on the outside.

54:29I played with Moussa Dembele at Tottenham.

54:30Kyle Walker: Very, very similar. Not the pace of him, but as a dribbler, he was incredible. Brilliant with the ball and his feet, wasn't he? Yeah, incredible. Right, best advice you've ever received? I think my coach at Sheffield United told me about the top 10 % and obviously dealing with negatives and positives and kind of seeing as a level playing field as much as you can. So top ten centre, like the mentality? The mentality. The mentality, definitely. Did you ever think about going into athletics? How quick are you, by the way? Was you the quickest player at City? Was Harlan quicker than you? I'd imagine over...

55:07In my prime, I'd say not. In my prime.

55:10Kyle Walker: So who would be the quickest at City over your time? Who would give you a tough race? Sané? Leroy. He was quick, wasn't he? Yeah, Leroy was quick. And he looked good when he ran as well. I might look like I'm trying a lot. Quicker than you, Sané? No, I'd still say me. over 100 metres I would put myself ahead of him ahead of him I'd probably say Theo Walcott maybe because he was like lightning weren't he back in his day but Gaz Ralf Baer said it but I'd beat him I honestly think I'd beat him he said he'd beat you no no he said he'd beat me but I honestly think I'd beat him in my prime he was quick and he was an unbelievable player but I think in a run without a ball you're beating him I've beaten him Your best friend in football?

55:55I've made too many along the way.

55:58Kyle Walker: I think the likes of Dele, Jack, John. You look at the England group. John who, sorry? John Stone, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm just... Dele, Jack. Yeah, yeah. We're working out where they are now. Yeah, Dele, Jack Grealish, John Stones. I think the group of England that we've got of Harry Maguire, Harry Kane, Kieran Trippier, Jordan Pickford. Yeah. There's too many. You have to select one now. I couldn't, I couldn't. They've all played a part in my career. This is a little naughty one. Rodgers, Bellingham, Palmer or Foden to start in the number 10 at the World Cup? I can say this now, can't I?

56:35Yeah, you can.

56:36Kyle Walker: Do you know something you'll find as you get a little bit older, you'll shoot from the hip. Yeah, yeah. Rodgers, Bellingham, Foden or Palmer? Palmer. In a 10, one player in a 10. Yeah, because you've got Bakayo on the right, haven't you? You've got Harry. On the left, he's going to go probably... I'm thinking Anthony Godwin, maybe. Can you not play two tens? Two tens with deck? He's going to have Anderson and Declan. I would think with Tuchel, he's going to have Anderson and Declan. I'm going to go on form that I see, that I've seen. I've seen Morgan Rodgers play at City. I've seen Cole Palmer play at City.

57:16Kyle Walker: I've seen Phil Foden play at City. Jude, I've obviously only seen at England. but on sole ability it's Phil Foden hands down on sole ability as a football player it's Phil Foden and what they can do at any given moment even when you've played with England you think no definitely not no Phil Foden has not done what he's should do at England but on sole ability it's Phil Foden good what is your favourite pair of trainers don't know why that's in no idea but if you got on Puma they won't be crap Puma Puma

57:54Puma best manager you've played under yeah probably Pep

58:00Kyle Walker: probably Pep that's no disrespect to Hodgson Southgate Capello Maurizio Pochettino Harry Redknapp Neil Warnock my favourite Kevin Blackwell who gave him the wall he's a line on Neil Warnock fantastic brilliant brilliant he was the best one of the best times of my career there obviously QPR going there and just experiencing winning football matches on a weekly basis with Adele basically doing what he wants. And Neil Warnock, we're driving from East London to West London, probably about two hours in traffic, me and Radic Churney, for Neil Warnock to say, nah, we'll have a day off today and drive back home.

58:41Kyle Walker: But that was just him. That used to happen? Yeah, that was just him and he was class for it because it's one manager that I feel knew how to have the team together and I think it was important in that dressing room as well. Good. Would you swap your Champions League title for a Euros title win with England? Tough one, aren't it? Oh.

59:05Kyle Walker: Not in the circumstances of a treble. No, I think I'd have to. I'd have to. You'd have to swap it? I'd have to swap it. I don't really... I'd swap it for you. I don't really want to Because of the trouble But I think for your country That's the pinnacle of football It is, yeah Paddle, what do you make of it? Are you a paddle They're all paddle players Everyone's a paddle player, aren't they? It's people that can't be asked to play tennis, isn't it? So you're not a paddle player I can play it And I've played it a few times But I just think it's A short course in tennis That's got glass around it Just all of a sudden It's good description it's a good description of it favourite football in memory?

59:44Kyle Walker: treble treble winning season let's move on yeah no joke would you want to end your career with your home club Sheffield United well you've already answered this haven't you? yeah of course I would is that something you're definitely going to do? I don't know honestly I've said it for you can't can't you really if you say you're going to play for a few quid less and go and play at Sheffield United they're probably going to say oh yeah I'm not going to turn you down are they? but in my head it's kind of like I have got so much love for that club and they give me the start from where I come from in Sheffield to then go and play for that club.

1:00:19Kyle Walker: You want to go back there? I would like to go back, but I wouldn't like to change my view on what I... You know, when you're inside it, from the outside looking in, it's Sheffield United to me. But if I was to there and then to see how it was running, if I didn't like certain things, would it tarnish my view? So it's a difficult one. Tough one. Your son plays at Burnley Academy. Did that influence your decision to join the club? No, no, not whatsoever. my influence was obviously by reaching 100 caps for England do you think you are the fastest right back ever? I'd say probably up there I'd like to think so I can't think of one that's quicker I'm sure I think of one that's quicker than you that would be quicker anywhere near you actually how was Cafu?

1:01:01he was quick but he wasn't as quick as you I mean he was athletic Turan oh Turan was quick Turan was quick Paul Parker was quick back in the day but not as quick as you I don't think you've answered that one for me thanks yeah favourite holiday destination

1:01:18Kyle Walker: Abbasoc Wales wow I got asked to go there last week off a guide welcome to come down if you want have you got a place there yeah yeah yeah things you never know yeah I was expecting something luxurious and sort of exotic no I mean it's not me it's not me Abbasoc if you got to know me I'm not I'm not what's the media so what's the Abbasoc that we need to know about I'd say it's a posh caravan. I live it. It's like a chalet that we've got. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's... It's like a lodge. I wouldn't even call it a lodge. No. It's a posh caravan. It's a posh caravan. And we just go down there. I've been introduced from it, from people from around the area.

1:01:54Kyle Walker: And it's just kind of a really good vibe of like a community. It's like a posh councillor's thing. Yeah, yeah. And I think like the kids go in a... Sounds great. Yeah, in the morning. Yeah. Leave you out and they come back at night. Fantastic. It's interesting because, I mean, I grew up in a caravan. Both my nans and granddads are caravans. One in Notend, which is sort of Blackpool, Cleetwood, Cleetley's way, and my other nan in Blackpool. I spent all my childhood in a caravan in Blackpool. Did you love it? Absolutely loved it. So then you go to these nice hotels and everything, and your kids are then swinging off chandeliers and stuff like that, and you're thinking, oh my gosh, get me out of here.

1:02:30Kyle Walker: That's why I prefer to be down there. Abbasok it is, let's get back. Which artist are you listening to at the moment? Honcho. Who? Honcho, exactly, you don't know. I thought that was a clothing Oh it's Poncho Yeah it's Poncho On your top of your head Honcho What's Honcho sing He's an American artist Okay Great I'll get him on On the way home Turn it up Funniest person In the dressing room Ian Bennett At Sheffield United Or Scott Carson Scott Carson Scott Carson He's hilarious Do you know something I always say Every time I see Scott Carson Come out of City's goalkeeping Is that City's Third or fourth goalie He was third Yeah he was third I always say this In my next life If there is one I'm going to come back As Scott Carson Everyone says that You want Scott Carson's job He was just going to sit there He literally warms the keepers up It's a brilliant life Tom Eaton's doing the same At United Tom's a great lad He was unbelievable For that group of lads Yeah Because we had a Just keep you all going All the time Pep always used to do Obviously Game on a Saturday You would be in on a Sunday To do a cool down And then the other lads Would then train Yeah And we used to call it Champions League On a Sunday because it got so competitive.

1:03:39Kyle Walker: Right. So the lads who weren't playing against each other? Yeah. So you do little five-a-sides. Yeah, yeah. And how he used to get that going was very, very good. You know, just that you know what it's like. It's hard. You're disappointed. Lads haven't played, yeah. Yeah, you want to basically boot balls everywhere because you're frustrated. But he used to make sure that everyone was proper switched on for it. And he was a vital part of that team, definitely. Good stuff. Most underrated player you've ever played with? Fernandinho. Yeah. Yeah. The ugly things that people probably don't see. Very unselfish.

1:04:17Kyle Walker: Him or Rodri as a player? Two completely different. But doing the same job, like in terms of, obviously played the same position, but... Rodri was better on the ball. Yeah. I think Dino wouldn't mind me saying that. But Dino as a... If you go into Anfield away, you want him by your side. Yeah. You want him by your side most definitely. Good stuff. Which team was better? The City team that won the treble? Oh, I don't see these before they ask them. You certainly won the World of Gary, but read it. I didn't read it, no. Which team was better? I know what's come in, isn't it? The City team that won the treble or the United team that won the treble?

1:04:52I mean, come on. Who would you go with, Gary? Well, I'm obviously going to go with my team and he's going to go with his team.

1:04:59Kyle Walker: Ask him his favourite film, then. OK, I'm going to change that one out. We're not going to do that one. Your favourite film? Man on Fire Oh Man on Fire

1:05:25Kyle Walker: Dendro

1:05:35Kyle Walker: what Scott said that you know when Scott did when people are down you pick them up I think sometimes when you're a manager you're very there's a line isn't there there's a line and I'd like to be that person that bridges the line that keeps people I think football so mentally like mentally draining that you need you can't be down we play football for love we don't play it because we need to no one's forcing us to So I think if I could be that bridge in a way of speaking to the younger lads, especially coming through when they're not getting played in the first team, I'd like to do that. Kyle, that's 19 questions for the 16 genuine trophies you've won and the three Community Shields.

1:06:21Kyle Walker: Well done, mate. Thank you.

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