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Kyle Walker Retires from International Football & Talks EURO's Regrets With Gary Neville

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In this episode of "The Overlap," host Gary Neville interviews Kyle Walker, who discusses his decision to retire from international football after earning 96 caps for England. The conversation reflects on Walker’s career, notable matches, and the evolution of the England squad over the years.

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Chapters

2:23

Kyle Walker Discusses Retirement

Kyle Walker shares his decision to retire from international football.

“Studge always wears this stuff on Sky and every time he comes in I just say to him three grand.”
4:29

Reflections on Caps and Future

Walker reflects on his career, caps, and the future of England's team.

“Obviously losing the Champions League final to Chelsea to then go to the Euros final in your home country and lose that on penalties.”
6:07

Conversations with Coaches and Managers

Walker talks about interactions with coaches and decisions affecting his career.

“James, is he the absolute pick of the right backs to take over from yourself?”
12:28

The Significance of Playing for England

Walker reflects on the honor and experiences of representing England.

“Not just because he's having to tell me that I'm not going to get the 100 have him probably wanting to sign me at Bayern Munich as well.”
14:00

Reflecting on International Dreams

Kyle Walker shares his childhood dreams and experiences with the England team.

15:00

The Evolution of the England Team

A discussion on the changes in the England football team over the years.

16:00

Lessons from Major Tournaments

Walker reflects on key moments from England's recent tournament performances.

“And you look around in the dressing room and I've said it before, but you look around in the dressing room and you're kind of searching for people that's done it before.”
17:00

Mentality and Experience in Football

The importance of mental strength and experienced players in high-pressure situations.

18:00

Facing the Pressure of Penalty Shootouts

Discussion on the pressure and personal feelings regarding penalties in crucial matches.

“When you look at you've got Roy Keane or Cantona and Steve Bruce and these great Peter Schmeichel, it makes a massive difference having that experience alongside you, doesn't it?”
18:30

Regrets and Reflections on Penalty Decisions

Walker expresses his regrets about not stepping up during penalty situations.

“I don't know if I said it in the classes that we had back in England that if we come to a penalty shootout, I wouldn't put my hand up.”
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20:00

Analyzing England's Penalty Shootout History

Gary Neville and Kyle Walker discuss England's historical issues with penalty shootouts.

“You know, I scored seven goals or six goals in my career.”
25:40

The Impact of Recent Matches on Mentality

Walker discusses the emotional toll of losing important matches and the lessons learned.

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28:00

Adapting to International Football Challenges

Learn about the challenges of switching from club to international football.

“Some people, I think you play your best football and it's just autopilot.”
29:11

Analyzing England's Team Dynamics and Pressure

Explore the pressures on the England team and their chances in upcoming tournaments.

“that you know the gaffer was in now Thomas was more about keeping the ball more European football rather than English football of let's get it forward as quick as possible and turn it into a basketball game.”
30:24

Reflections on Retirement and Career Control

Hear Kyle Walker's thoughts on retiring from international play and career legacy.

“because you're retiring for international football, it's a massive...”
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2:20Gary Neville: Are you good? All good. All good. Mental. Oh, it's just something. Studge always wears this stuff on Sky and every time he comes in I just say to him three grand. I just say three grand mate. Two grand, three grand. You know what I mean Ben? It's true though isn't it? And my stuff's always brandless.

2:41Kyle Walker: You give me one?

2:42Gary Neville: Yeah good. You? Yeah very good.

2:45Kyle Walker: Oh Jos. I've seen the one with Kaz the other day. Good weren't it? With? Bale. Oh really? You should of course stick to football. I can do it if you want me to.

2:53Gary Neville: What are you doing on Wednesday? Seriously, we can cancel this now and do stick to football Wednesday morning. You would prefer to do this?

3:02Kyle Walker: I think we'd do this just for the clarity of everything.

3:10Gary Neville: Kyle, great to see you and just tell us why we're here today.

3:14Kyle Walker: You've got obviously something big to announce. Yeah, well, I just feel that it's the right time for me to probably step away from international football. It's something that I've completely enjoyed, obviously working with you, working with all the different managers that I've worked with. But to get 96 caps now, people probably say, why now when you're so close to 100? I think I've made it well known to everyone to be the second black player to reach 100 caps after Ashley Cole would have been a great honour. but having the conversations that I've had it's probably not going to be I have to take that on the chin and I think now is to make the decision to close that chapter and concentrate more on club football You just alluded there to the conversations that you've had what conversations have you had and who were you?

4:04Kyle Walker: There have been difficult conversations obviously with John McDermott I spoke with Gareth because I think I wanted to tell him first and foremost because he's gave me most of my caps that I was going to be retiring from international football. And it's funny actually I say that because I was going to do it after the Wembley Euros. That's four years ago, eh? Yeah, and it was a tough month. Obviously losing the Champions League final to Chelsea to then go to the Euros final in your home country and lose that on penalties. I was just like, I'm done with this. I just can't take the heartbreak of getting so close and not getting over the line.

4:44Kyle Walker: Me and Gareth had a conversation and I think I was on 48 or 49 caps then. So I've obviously carried on, but I do think, you know, 35 now, I've earned the, I hope that I've earned the right to kind of say, you know, that I'm going to call it a day.

5:01Gary Neville: But why now? When I look at it, obviously it's two months before a tournament. Obviously there are players that play in your position, but some of the players that do play in your position and also are prone to injury. If that phone call came, what would you do?

5:17Kyle Walker: If the phone call came, can I turn it down? No. So you're not retired? No, but I am officially retiring because if the phone call came, I would have to do what's right and represent my country. Now, I feel that there's more than enough cover. Obviously, injuries could play a big factor in it, but you look at Rhys, with Trent, with Jed, with Tino. Cons are then played there. There's enough cover there to then kind of say that sometimes you have to move aside to let other people go. And I think, you know, for me, as I've said before, that Rhys James is a top quality player and he needs to obviously go and keep that shirt if he wants to keep it, if he wants to obviously put in the performances.

6:00Kyle Walker: But if not, he's got other people that are just behind him that are going to be probably picking at his heels to try and get that shirt. It's interesting you mentioned Rhys James. James, is he the absolute pick of the right backs to take over from yourself? I think it'd be unfair for me to say Rhys James completely because Trent has been to a couple of tournaments now and has been pushing me all the way. And I think the other, Jed and Tino have been incredible, especially for Newcastle. Martino's done him fantastically well and obviously down to injuries, he's probably not hit the peak that he wants to in this season.

6:41Kyle Walker: But I think there's enough cover. But for Rhys, I think he's probably the complete right back that I would probably say, yeah.

6:48Gary Neville: I mean, I got to 85 caps, but I never felt I was ever really close to 100. I was sort of tailing off towards the end of my career. I was injured a little bit. 96. Does that, I mean, you're so close to it. Do you feel, is there part of you disappointed? And is there any part of you disappointed with how it's happened as well?

7:08Kyle Walker: I'm not disappointed because it's football. I look back at the likes of when I was with Capello and I waited a long time, I think I waited a year to get my first cap. You know, Glenn Johnson was playing incredibly well. So I spent a year there of going to the training camps, you know, being in that Grove Hotel, sat there bored, not knowing anyone until Jack Wilshire came. and then all of a sudden I've got like a little mate that I can actually talk to. I went there when I was on loan at Aston Villa. So that was a big chunk of my playing career at England that I could have probably got a couple of caps there.

7:44Kyle Walker: Then I did 18 months, I think, under Gareth without being in the team when I was doing well at City, but obviously he wanted to go in a different direction. So I can't fully say, OK, listen, it's the gaffer now and he should have played me and I should have got four caps. it's not completely down to him it's a career over 14 years I think I've done with England so to pinpoint it on a certain someone is not probably fair What conversations have you had with Thomas Tuchel the current manager? Well I had a conversation with him on the first call up where I didn't get picked He rang you up the end of that first one?

8:19Kyle Walker: He phoned me and he said that he spoke to a couple I'm not just the only one that he's speaking to now and I thought out of respect that was really nice of him to do that

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11:19Kyle Walker: I think it's always hard. I think when you go to, you know, I'm really enjoying it at Burnley, but when you're not at a top club, it's very hard to get into that team. I think I can only remember probably Calvin Phillips at Leeds that's probably gone on to get into an England team that's really not at the top six, seven teams. in the Premier League so I always knew it would be an uphill battle but the main reason for me signing for Burnley was to make sure that I was playing in the Premier League and hopefully get to these 100 caps yeah and also to achieve something if we went and obviously stayed up which would be fantastic as well but I wanted you know I tried it in Italy with AC Milan we're still getting picked I thought okay well I'm just going to go to the Premier League play Premier League football and hopefully I can get them four caps which would get me 200 it's probably not worked out how I thought it would due to results due to performance that I have to take accountability for as well and that's it it's kind of like just close the chapter and we move on now Have you spoke to him in the last few days or week?

12:26Kyle Walker: He's texted me so I do need to give him a call and I believe that he's wrote a really nice statement for me as well to congratulate me on my career which is very nice of him but he's got other players that he needs to concentrate on now and it's just probably the conversation that I was going to have with him might not have been a nice one for him. Not just because he's having to tell me that I'm not going to get the 100 have him probably wanting to sign me at Bayern Munich as well. When did he try and sign you at Bayern Munich? Two years ago. And what happened with that? Pep took me half a dinner and I decided to stay at Man City.

13:03Kyle Walker: He took you half a dinner in? He took me half a dinner in Manchester. Whereabouts? The restaurant I forgot the name his restaurant his restaurant yeah yeah so we went there and we had a nice meal and I decided to extend my stay at City but I'm so happy I did because we won another league we won four in a row and I was the captain for that so that's something that I can always hold dearly to me so Pep takes you to his restaurant the lads voted captain he didn't mean the captain he said there you go no the lads voted me as captain but again I was very very happy to be the captain of that great club as much as you probably don't think it is and to win four I do to win the leagues you've won and play under that manager and do what you've done

13:49Gary Neville: and to win four in a row was obviously special and just take us back to your England career I mean 96 caps is absolutely incredible just sum up what it's like playing for England

13:58Kyle Walker: what playing for England has meant to you I'd never dreamed of it I never dreamed of it as a boy coming from Sheffield to achieve what I've done for my country I never dreamed of it I remember going to France with you guys and if I look back at there to what the squad was like the camaraderie in the changing room and everything like that to where it is now it's completely different it's completely different and that's not down to manager down to players I think it's a collective that Gareth what has changed I was there in 2016

14:33Gary Neville: what has changed in the last 10 years I mean Gareth obviously had a big impact but just tell us exactly you know what's happened to this england team because the the success and i say i do think it's success that you've had i mean people will say you didn't get over the line you didn't win a trophy but when you get to two finals to semi-finals and quarter finals over a period of four or five major tournaments up like up against the likes of spain france argentine and brazil yeah you are doing something incredibly well i think you look

14:59Kyle Walker: at it and you you say we're probably at rock bottom after that iceland game yeah the only way we were the only way it was up it's the lowest point I've ever had in my football the only way it's up and you look at your generation to the golden generation and we just kept on knocking down little hurdles and I don't think we ever set ourself of getting to the semi-final we went to Russia and there was no pressure on us we played as a back three or back five whatever you want to call it with a completely different team and it was just like go and play and all of a sudden we end up in a semi-final now when I look back at that now Tripp scores the goal the free kick and it's a repetition that's probably happened in a couple of them where we do score the early goal and then we sit back and sit back and it's not in our DNA as proud Englishmen we don't sit back and defend I think if we was an Italian team we'd probably get over the line and cross that line definitely on the Wembley final but we didn't and it's just part and parcel

16:01Gary Neville: of football did you sit back it's a wider question in this but I don't know because to be fair the reason we used to get knocked out of tournaments and it was at different stages than you are talking about it was because the other team kept the ball better than us having played four or five six games in quick succession our legs starting to tire a little bit and you end up just going back you don't want to sit back but you end up just getting pushed back is that the same feeling that you've had in that game against Croatia where they started to play a little bit didn't they was it a fatigue thing that starts to kick in you just sink back

16:29Kyle Walker: are you talking about a mentality thing I think it's mentality I think we've both been in teams now when I played at Tottenham for a lot of my career and I got to a lot of finals, you know, in the Cups and we was chasing down Leicester at one point and Chelsea at another point. And you look around in the dressing room and I've said it before, but you look around in the dressing room and you're kind of searching for people that's done it before. And I remember joining City and then we played Arsenal in the Carabao. and I looked around and I just thought we've won this you're alright you know you've got to look at the likes of Vinny, David Silva Aguero Kevin and you think we're okay here and lo and behold Vinny and David go and score the goals and I think that's what we probably lacked in that Croatia game when Mandzukic Perisic Modric you've got all these players that are multiple champions in different leagues and stuff like that and they probably don't carry the pressure as much as much as it means just the same to them one million percent they probably don't carry that pressure as much as the englishman does with the country behind them nation behind him you're seeing videos from back home where people are jumping in canals and everything like that the box is going mental and you're looking and you're thinking there's pressure here yeah there's pressure here but as much as we didn't have the pressure once you get there there is pressure yeah there is

17:52Gary Neville: pressure i think just when you're talking there about that sort of who you've got in your dressing room, it's something that I always explain back to when I started. When you look at you've got Roy Keane or Cantona and Steve Bruce and these great Peter Schmeichel, it makes a massive difference having that experience alongside you, doesn't it? As like a younger player.

18:11Kyle Walker: Well you lean on them, don't you? You lean on them. And they're great players as well by the way. Oh, fantastic players but that's one thing that I probably not regret, I don't regret it because I'll be honest enough and man enough to say that I couldn't have took a penalty. In that game against Croatia? No, in the game against Italy at Wembley, I couldn't have took a penalty. I don't know if I said it in the classes that we had back in England that if we come to a penalty shootout, I wouldn't put my hand up. I wouldn't put my hand up. Now, if it was me, myself and I... Why would you put your hand up?

18:43Gary Neville: Because I never took a penalty for England. I got to three, I think, penalty shootouts at varying stages in competitions. You were always staying back on corners. You were always the last defensive player. you're the person who scored the least amount of goals in the team you're the person who had the least amount of shots probably in the team why would you take a penalty unless you were 10th or 11th person in the actual

19:05Kyle Walker: in the list if you know what I mean looking back on that scenario I feel that there was younger players that I could have probably stepped up as a senior person and if I missed that you take the hit I could take the hit rather than Sir Paquio Marcus Jadam correct is that why you feel a little bit of I feel that's my only thing that I whiff is if, but, and a maybe in my career.

19:30Gary Neville: I feel the same. It's an interesting thought, that, but I flip between. So I was experienced. I remember 2006, Cara came on because he'd won the penalty shootout in the training competition that we'd had. Sven had organised this training competition, and he came on and took a penalty. And in 2004, Darius Vassel, I mean, Darius, took a penalty. He was sixth. And I think, well, I was more experienced than Cara, but Cara was still experienced at the time. I was more experienced than Darius. And I flip between, should I? I mean, I never took a penalty in my life, Kyle. No. I've never taken a penalty in my life in any team.

20:01Gary Neville: Get me away from it. I've got no interest in it. I'd be the 11th on the list. The people would take one before me. You know, I scored seven goals or six goals in my career. I don't think I've got many more. Yeah. So my point is, but you're right. You look back on it, you think, should I as an experienced player have stood up? Should I have put my hand up and said, or is that just a, is that a reckless fool that puts his hand up? Or is it a brave soldier? It's like, it's that type of mentality, isn't it? And that's, I look back and I just think of them,

20:28Kyle Walker: that what they had to deal with after, and being so young, could I have stepped in? But I know if, all right, take this scenario out of the equation, Marcus strikes the ball better than me. Scored more goals than me. He does, yeah. Scored more goals than me. And Bekayo does. And Bekayo does, and Jayden does. So technically, they are much better than me. But sometimes technique doesn't really come into that situation. it's more about having a clear focus on what you want to do trusting in yourself right and going for it what was Gareth's methodology

21:03Gary Neville: on penalties because obviously we had a bad experience on penalties as a coach and as a player I got knocked out of five tournaments with penalty shootouts five I mean it's a horrific record I only ever won one penalty shootout in the teams that I was in that was the Spain one in 96 when Stuart Pearce scored you started to sort of what would be win penalty shootouts. What changed? What did Gareth do?

21:27Kyle Walker: Well, you practice. You practiced a lot. We practice. All of you, including you? All of us, including me. And I actually don't think I missed many. But I couldn't, going back, I couldn't, if it was just me playing the game of football and it was only me losing, I would have took a penalty and I put my first hand up because it's only me I'm letting myself down. Don't beat yourself up too much

21:49Gary Neville: because I wouldn't have, If I'd have seen you walking up for a penalty, and I'm, by the way, I'm on ITV with Roy Keane and Ian Wright, I'd have said, what the fuck is going on here? What's happening here? Kyle Walker's going up for a penalty. We're in trouble here. Donnarumma's in there. No, I'd have said, what's going on? So I think most of the stadium wouldn't have expected you or wouldn't have chosen you. If you just said to me, but Kyle or Kyle, I'm going with Kyle. Yeah, of course, sure. Marcus or Kyle, I'm going with Kyle. Jadon or Kyle, I'm going with Kyle.

22:17Kyle Walker: Okay, so I say Harry Maguire took one.

22:19Gary Neville: I think Harry to be fair is someone who I think I can see taking the penalties Steve Bruce used to take penalties I can see Harry taking the penalties he's got that sort of you know he steps forward into midfield I know you're a right back and you step forward as well but I could see Harry taking one who else took one Harry Kane Harry Maguire

22:41Kyle Walker: and then the three boys three lads

22:44Gary Neville: but there'll have been people who are more a million percent Who else didn't take one, along with you? Because there'll be people who I can say out of those five that didn't take one. I'd have put Jordan Pickford before you. Jordan's took one before me.

22:59Kyle Walker: Against Switzerland. The way Jordan kicks a ball with his left foot. I'd have put Jordan well in front of you. I fancied each and every one of them at that period of time to obviously score a goal. And I always back. Was Declan on the pitch at that time? Possibly, yeah. Did Declan not take one? Or was it Calvin? Might have been Calvin. Not sure. But Declan would have took one, surely. Yeah, Declan would have took one probably now, but back then when he's just coming into the team, maybe not. But even pickers, you know he's going to save two. You know he's going to save one or two. So you score your penalties, you win the shootout.

23:31Kyle Walker: It's not really going 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 because we've got a very good goalkeeper in the net that's very good at penalties. But that's the one thing, if I look back, would I change or would I step forward? Yeah, but I could miss and all of a sudden the whole country is on my back. Yeah, but I think, do you know something?

23:50Gary Neville: With penalties, emotion and lack of thought comes into it sometimes in terms of, not just lack of thought, lack of rational thinking comes into it. Oh, you should have took a penalty. It's the people who I think have had confidence in front of goal or have taken penalties regularly that should take them first. In fact, they've been there before. You wouldn't put somebody up to do a job that hadn't been there before. if you said to me I'm going to put Marcus Rashford one on one against Vinicius Junior you wouldn't do it would you no but I'd put you in front of Vinicius Junior or Mbappe so I think to be fair you stick to your lane and I wouldn't go too deep

24:27Kyle Walker: and I think that's important what you say you stick to your lane that's not my lane and I don't want to be involved in it is that the game

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25:56Gary Neville: In, obviously, the last tournament.

25:58Kyle Walker: I think the Wembley one. The Wembley one hurts most. I think the Wembley one.

26:01Gary Neville: It was so ramped up for it, wasn't it?

26:03Kyle Walker: Yeah, I think everything, obviously, being at Wembley. The way, obviously, we've conceded the equaliser where we haven't conceded, I think we had a start-up for God knows how long, that we didn't concede a set play goal for God knows how many matches. The one game where we don't want to concede a set play goal, we go and concede one. and just the magnitude of the game especially after the Champions League final losing that you kind of want to bounce back and go and win something for your country you get so close and then it's decided by penalties that was the cruel one I think Spain was definitely the better team and I think that they should have won that tournament but I think that one to lose it on pens it's kind of sour taste

26:48Gary Neville: you got so close and to be fair the journey that you've been on with the England team over the last sort of seven or eight years. You know, 2018 Croatia, Spain, obviously, Italy. France, I actually thought was a good game, the one in Qatar. I actually thought, to be fair, it was a 50-50 game. It would have gone either way. I actually thought it played well. What game misses a penalty there? Yeah. So that one to me is the one that I think you can sort of easily, I wasn't upset after that one. I think the other three, was there a, I'm going to ask you again the question, because the pattern of the other three teams, even Italy at Wembley started to keep the ball better than we do you think that the possession I mean I'm thinking about the tournament coming forward this summer is possession a problem for England teams in the biggest matches do you think I know your team have kept it very well at times over the last seven or eight years but in the real moments against Croatia Spain and Italy was that the factor you lost sort of what would be the momentum in the game because of position am I misreading it

27:48Kyle Walker: watching it no no I think that's right I think that's fair for you to say that I don't really think our training was built on keeping the ball and having possession of the ball What was it built on? Feeding the ball to Harry as much as possible and getting goals you know getting the ball wide isolating people in 1v1 situations and you have to learn very quickly and I think people don't really understand this is you play with your clubs for a certain amount of time and then all of a sudden you come with England and you're meant to just switch on with a group of men that you've not seen for maybe three, four, five, six months that you then therefore then got to gel with and learned their game as quickly as possible.

28:31Kyle Walker: Some people, I think you play your best football and it's just autopilot. You don't think. And once you're obviously playing with people that you're not used to playing with, everything starts working in your brain where you're overthinking things. And I think if I look back at it now, we probably didn't train a certain scenario that if we do go 1-0 up this is what's going to happen where if I look back at my City career never mind if it was 1-0 2-0 0-0 we would keep playing the play same way and it's consistent and we knew whether that would be an equaliser or a winner we would get the goal in some way shape or form and I just think that and I think where the first camp that you know the gaffer was in now Thomas was more about keeping the ball more European football rather than English football of let's get it forward as quick as possible and turn it into a basketball game.

29:25Gary Neville: Do you think that, when I watched, I mean look, Gareth's teams I thought were solid defensively. Yeah. I thought they did keep the ball at times just when it got to that sort of what would be sort of maybe last moment that maybe it fell short. Do you think Thomas Tuchel's team will keep the ball better in this tournament and will, can England win it this one?

29:44Kyle Walker: I think they've got a great chance. I think after the recent, you know, run of tournaments like you've just said we've got to be there we've got to be you know definitely in contention to win this tournament and probably one of the favourites it's the pressure it's the pressure that comes with it it's showing up in big moments but you look at the team now and there's a lot of players playing for big things whether that's Premier League titles won Premier League titles Champions Leagues Harry playing you know now at Bayern there's no excuses now that they don't play in big games week in, week out for the club.

30:21Kyle Walker: And just to repeat what I asked you before,

30:25Gary Neville: because you're retiring for international football, it's a massive... I never retired for international football because I just end up being retired. They just stopped picking me. If that phone call does come, you're going back, aren't you? And it could come, by the way, because honestly, if you look at the players that are in your position, they're all prone to getting injured. It could come back.

30:43Kyle Walker: I just feel like... But do you, does it feel good for you to be someone's retired Jew after the career that you had? Or would you have liked to have stopped on your term? And it's not me being big headed or, you know, selfish of myself. I just feel that I want to close the book myself. I started the book. No one got me to England except myself. I went, you know, on loan to QPR. I went to Aston Villa and I got my call up from Aston Villa. I wasn't even at my parent club. so I did it all myself obviously I had players and very good players around me that helped me along the way but I just feel for I want to do it on my you're under control yeah I want to do it on my terms and I want to kind of close it and it's not I'm sad obviously because I didn't get to the 100 but I'm so grateful for the experience that we've just mentioned now and to represent my country 96 times Kyle I've enjoyed that cheers and I'll see you

31:43Gary Neville: at the World Cup we're over at the World Cup and I'll see you there right back. You'll be there.

31:46Kyle Walker: Oh, no. No.

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From the publisher

In this special exclusive interview brought to you by Sky Bet, Gary Neville sits down with Kyle Walker as he brings the curtain down on his international career with England.


With an incredible 96 caps for the Three Lions, Walker reflects on the highs and lows of his England journey, from breaking into the national team to helping rebuild the squad after the disappointing defeat to Iceland at EURO 2016.


Walker also played in some of England’s biggest matches in recent history, including two EURO finals against Italy and Spain. Looking back, would he change anything to help England finally get over the line?


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00:00 - Intro

00:50 - International Retirement, why now?

04:49 - England Career Reflections

07:46 - Bayern Interest under Tuchel

08:47 - How England Changed Since 2016

23:17 - World Cup Chances

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