Marcus Rashford Exclusive with Gary Neville

0:00You never know what's going to happen but I'm all about scoring balls and trying to make assists. And break Wayne Rooney's record? Hopefully. I've actually spoken to Asra about it. You're coming for him? No, he wants me to do it. He doesn't. They always say that, strikers. When I look back, it's just like six or seven months wasted. I wish I would have spoken to someone before the operation.

0:26Do you know what was the saddest thing? Just before the pandemic, I bumped into an old school friend and he was homeless.

0:34That sums up my career. Did it take away any of your love playing for England?

0:51We've come to Portugal to see Manchester United and England's Marcus Rashford to talk to him about his career, the ups, the downs, his family, the charitable work and the work that he did during the pandemic and he's taking part in a pre pre-season yeah the pre-season before the pre-season so we're here at the campus in port you'll just tell us a little bit about what you do in this sort of like pre pre-season period yeah like for me it's just about getting back up to speed you know before i want to go back into pre-season um a lot of it is obviously to do with the physical aspects but also just when i go back into pre-season I enjoy everyone like being back together again because we've been away through each other for a while I don't want to go back into pre-season and be dying every day so I used to know it's good to get I usually do it every year to be fair just get back into shape have you done it every year because last year I remember sort of the being a big thing about you doing this sort of like 10-day camp and after you came back last year and you looked unbelievable you so you're strong you're fit you look like you sort of gained another yard what What have you done in this last 12 months that made that difference physically?

1:59I think last year I had a bit more time off, so I could do a double the training camp, really. So I've done probably two weeks in total. Yeah. Ten days of ball work and running and jump up, four days before of just getting back up to speed. So I really had the time to just do everything that I needed to tick off, and I felt really well-rounded going into pre-season. So, like I said, I wanted to be in that position this season as well. So, yeah, it's important for me to come here and get the work in. Do you not just feel like... You play that many games? You know, the Internationals, the World Cup, obviously, last Christmas, all the United games.

2:35United win every competition to the end this season. Do you not feel like just saying, right, actually, I just need that break? Yeah, that's probably... I've done a slightly shorter comp this time. I've only done eight days. Eight days of continuous training, though. Yeah, yeah. What's Eric Ten Haag's pre-season like last season compared to, say, the managers that you've had previously? Eric's is one of the toughest, I'd say. What, running-wise? Running-wise, yeah, but also we do a lot of passing drills and it's a lot of mental concentration. And when you're tired, it's difficult to concentrate for long periods of time when you're already physically tired.

3:11So it's like running, obviously, during the actual ball? Yeah, we usually do it in between. So we'll do a technical, I don't know, 20, 30-minute session, and then we'll go into maybe eight or ten blocks of box-to-boxes or, like, shorter-intensity runs, and then we'll go back into technical. Yeah. So it's not actually a tough session, but when you do it in the heat of the places that we train, it's proper challenging. But no, I enjoyed it. Like I said, I turned it up to pre-season in good shape, so I was just enjoying, you know, the new coach and getting used to him. When I was back at United, it started to be introduced that players would have their own individual programmes and they'd have sometimes their own individual coaches.

3:52Have you got a team around you that sort of work with you separately from also the club's coaching staff as well? Yeah, 100%. But I've had that from a really young age. Once I signed my first professional contract, I wanted to... Was it 17 or 16? Yeah, 17. But I didn't... You're still in college. You don't really need the money that they're giving you. So I thought... I had a conversation with my brother and I think it's important to invest it in yourself and, you know, do what you can do to better yourself. So I got myself a psychologist and a strength and conditioning coach from 17 and just stayed with them throughout, really.

4:27Are they still with you now just to have that team and only that tight team? Yeah, because I don't like to chop and change. Like, I feel like they know me from when I was younger and, you know, before everything happened with United, like their success and stuff like that, they know me from before that. so I feel comfortable around them. It blows my mind that, because I used to think like tennis player or a golfer or like an individual athlete would have their team around them, then if you're in a team sport, you'd all do the collective together and you'd all work together. I think sometimes it gets neglected when you're in a team sport, but you have to remember in a team sport, if every individual's at the top of the game or the best that they can be as a team, you're going to be better.

5:06So it's obviously important to do stuff as a team because you need to win together and fight for each other. But at the same time, especially in the forward positions, I feel like you have to be able to bring something different to the table. So, yeah, I've always just had that team around me and I feel like it's been beneficial to me, so I probably won't change. I came out of football 12 years ago as a player, but five, six years ago as a coach. It feels to me like it's gone to another level. There's sort of this type of camp, you know, There's not just you here, there's other players as well.

5:41Just practising and literally perfect everything rather than just taking your rest. Yeah, I just think that the level's so high in the league. If I don't do these things, maybe you start the season and you don't feel like you're up to scratch. I don't want to be in that position. I don't think it's a nice position to be in. You've probably played in games yourself where the other team's been that much better than you and you're just a step behind everything. What would you say is the one thing that you'd like to add to your sort of, you know, the physicality? Because you look absolutely spot on.

6:14You've got no body fat on you. Lightning quick. You're strong. You know, what is it, just maintaining what you've got? Is there something that you think you'd like to add to your game that would make you a lot better? I think there's always elements. I think it's always important to work on your strengths. I never stop working on my strengths. And, you know, you want to get your weaknesses as good as they can get. but your weaknesses are more often than not always going to be a little bit behind your strengths, so mine's left foot heading. I always want to work on them. Your heading's getting better, though, eh?

6:45Yeah, but I still feel like I should score more because I out-jump most people. So I feel like if I'm in the position, in the right areas, in the box, then I should be getting seven to ten headers this season, so I still feel like I can do that and I'll be pushing to do that next season. And what about the left foot in terms of that side of things? you have a finishing coach, do you work on that side of it a lot? Yeah, for me with my left foot it's just about confidence, you know. Like I feel like when I'm confident I score with it. Because you're on that left side a lot, aren't you, going down that left channel?

7:15Yeah, when I'm not confident it just never goes right with my left foot. When you're not confident in terms of your overall game or just, yeah. Yeah, but if I'm feeling confident and I'm feeling, you know, strong and fit and healthy I feel like if I get an opportunity on my left I've got a good chance of scoring as long as like i said as long as i'm in the right areas so a lot of it is about just getting into the right areas because my my striker coach he was a forward so he he always gives me information on getting in across the front post or you know on the shoulder of defenders and stuff like that but it's good for me to know that because even when i'm wide it helps me understand what my forward would be thinking and where i need to deliver the ball or try and you know get assists from that aspect and if i am making the box i know where i need to be so how much do you How do you analyse your game after?

8:01Let's say a game's finished on a Saturday, how much do you analyse your performance after that game or do you move on to the next because the next one's coming so quickly? Yeah, I think when you've got three games a week, I analyse it but maybe not as much. Probably the day after a game, if I've got a week between I'll recover the day after a game and then do it on the Monday. But I think it's important because a lot of my game is just being in the right positions at the right time. I think sometimes wingers neglect it now. But for me, it's... Because I can always see the forward. The forward can't see me, so I have to go off his movements.

8:35But at the same time, whichever defender's marking me, I have to make it a tough day for him and, you know, try and get blindside of him, make sure he can't see me. When he gets square, try and get across him in them moments. But because I've been, you know, working on it for so long, it is becoming, like, second nature now. And I find myself looking for them things without really telling myself to do it. So that's good. but you have to keep working on it to keep improving.

9:01Marcus, I'm going to get absolutely shamed here. I'm going to have a game of head tennis. First to five. Yeah.

9:10This could absolutely destroy your career if I beat you here. You realise that, don't you?

9:18Here we go. Oh, here you go, my serve. Oh, it's short, it's short. Is that 1-0?

9:26Don't control it. Get back there. Hey! You better shape up. Oh, it's out. Getting carried away. 2-1. Oh, no. It was never going to work that. Oh, no.

9:49How bad's that? Yes. Yes. Three all.

10:00He's done well. Get over there. Ah! Oh, he's done it. Oh no.

10:09Oh no. Four three. I'm not doing bad, but I think he's being kind to me. Oh fuck. He broke my ankle twice.

10:24Oh, it's out. Oh, it's not for you. Oh, no way he's done that. No, he must be like, oh no. That sums up my career. It was better that you won. Well done. Oh, f***ing.

10:45We planned for four or five scenarios before everything started. They're tough aren't they? How do you think about how tough she must have been? She's the toughest out of all of us.

11:13So Marcus, we're just on the way down to the beach but on the way I just thought I'd asked you a little bit about your early years and growing up in Manchester and particularly playing for Fletcher Moss, which is a famous young local club. How was that for you? I enjoyed it. I felt like it was the, like my, both my brothers played for Fletcher Moss, so that was like the local team to go to. And plus, it had a good resume of people moving on to academies, which, which, you know, was the, all my aim. But yeah, at home, it was, The thing was to have fun. We had discipline, obviously, because my mum was a single parent, so when she went out, it was up to my brother and my older sister to, like, manage the household, so there was a high amount of discipline, but it was always fun.

11:56Like, I enjoyed my upbringing. Talk to me about your mum. I mean, she must be a special person. Yeah, 100%. Like, I only realised how tough it was for her when I moved out the house, and I realised how... Like, when I went into digs, I realised how life was only... It was only 20 minutes away. Yeah. But how life wasn't, like, over there, it was completely different to what I was used to. And it actually made me feel a bit uncomfortable at first. In what way? Just, like, where I come from, there's noise all the time. So after a certain amount of time, like, you're getting used to sleeping when there's noise.

12:32And I remember the first night I couldn't sleep. Noises in what, like, cars or... Just everything. People shouting or... people i live facing shops as well so right it was one takeaway shop that didn't close till four or five in the morning so yeah there was always some type of noise and when i moved to to sale there was just no it was just silent you could just hear the wind i was there and i couldn't sleep like the first couple of nights but after like the first maybe three weeks four weeks i started to settle down and i was lucky really because the family that i got put with um great people and you know i still stay in contact with them now and yeah they're definitely a huge part of my my upbringing because i feel like that transition was difficult for some some people in my age group when they had to leave home so you know i got lucky really there's a there's a quote i read of your mum's where she said there were times where she used to be able to put only food on the table for yourselves and actually not have any herself i mean that's yeah but you're just at the time you'd never know because she'd always just have a smile on with it yeah they're tough aren't they?

13:35How do you think about how tough she must have been? She's the toughest out of all. She is, she still is now. Nothing can break her. And your brothers obviously work with you, don't they? Your mum works. Just tell us a little bit about what they do for you now in terms of your professional life away from football. Obviously my brothers, both my brothers are my agents and my mum, I'm trying to get her to just relax a little bit. I want her to enjoy herself but she's a workaholic. So in the beginning she was doing some of my commercial stuff with Nike along inside my brothers. But now, at the minute, we've managed to wind her down a little bit.

14:09She's in control of, like, fan mail, and she enjoys doing it all. How much fan mail do you get a week? Her house is piling up. She doesn't miss one, though. No? No, she doesn't miss it. It applies to every single one. Yeah. Which is good. Like, I enjoy doing it, but after a long day of training, she runs around to my house with 500 shirts, and it's not good to pretend like I'm sleeping. Tomorrow mum, tomorrow Thinking about you growing up and your mum really fighting hard To have to put food on people's table Did that inform what happened later in your life Where obviously you just did the most amazing thing During the pandemic with the free school meals Do you know what, I think we've always Even though we were struggling ourselves We've always given back I remember a couple of times on movies Like Claire for us to get the bus into town So we used to pass the load to homeless people And my mum literally would give me the last couple of quid in her purse To give to a homeless person even back then I feel like it's everyone in, my mum does her own things, my sisters do their own things, my brothers do their own things.

15:10And then we came together and made this idea. And there is something that we all, it's important to all of us and it's close to home, you know. Do you know what was the saddest thing? Just before the pandemic, I bumped into an old school friend and he was homeless. And he just, I remember him at school and he was one of the ones where his parents was in better position than most of us. And then to see him there, it was a bit of a shocking moment. It pushed me back a little bit, and I just felt like definitely they were going to try and do something to not change just his life, but everyone's lives that are in difficult situations.

15:54It's a long process. We're still early on in the process, but I'm just pleased that it's up and running now because step by step it takes more care of itself and the public have shown that they care and I feel like more people have made a difference now and made a change to people's lives. Do you recognise how big and important it was, what you did? I mean, you overturned government policy. It was unbelievable, the impact you had. I mean, I've got a university which has got about 700 or 800 students and if I asked them on a vote who their most popular person would be in Greater Manchester, they'd say you 100%.

16:29I just know that for a fact. Do you have any idea of what you achieved? You overturned government policy. Yeah, that's the thing that I didn't really concentrate on, like, the government U-turn. That wasn't at the forefront of my mind. Like, I knew that we might have had to do that from when Boris made the decision to go public with what he said after we spoke to him. I knew that was the next thing that we had to change, but it actually pushed me towards the public a bit more and we needed them as support and they was learning more about the topic as I was learning about the topic as well because the numbers are more crazy than what you could ever imagine and especially in Greater Manchester.

17:10So it was more about helping the individuals that needed the help than it was ever about. I wish that the U-turn never had to actually happen. I wish we just managed to get it done straight away because at the end of the day, we lost a little bit of time, which time is important and a lot of things can happen in a short space too. I always think about football players and think of they get criticised when they don't plan for the end of their career but you definitely see that you need to have your head screwed on and you're smart. Where's that come from, that sort of business mentality that you have?

17:45I think it started with my mum. My mum's very business minded and she always has been. She just hasn't been in a position to have the opportunities is to, you know, do what she really wanted to do. But she's always had that mindset. And then, you know, it just gets passed down. Like, both my brothers are the same and my sisters, when they want to be, are the same as well. I find that quite sad because your mum, obviously, was struggling to put food on your table, but she'd just been given a chance and someone had invested in her. Yeah. Obviously, she could have, you know what I mean? Yeah, she definitely could have.

18:14Like, my mum started doing properties when I was 18 and she'd done it all. She, I didn't... Well, managed all your property purchases and everything. She still does, most of them. But she just always knew how to do it. You judge her at the end of each month how she's doing. Hey mum, you could do a bit better with this. Just don't shout at me if I don't know. I played with David Beckham and he would say, I'm a football player, yeah, of course I'm a football player, but I'm also someone who wants to do more than just play football. It strikes me that you're a little bit like that as well. You're a lot like that in fact.

18:45Was there a point whereby you ever felt overwhelmed by everything that was happening and you thought, oh this is getting so big i just need to sort of pull back a little bit um not really because we we planned for you know four or five scenarios before everything started because obviously we don't know what's going to happen so we just thought worst case scenario we we planned for you know five or six different scenarios that could play out so it's just about executing whichever one out of the six that we had to choose from and so yeah most of the way you're sorry what you're referring to six just six scenarios like whether like the u-turns one example we didn't know that that was going to happen but we had to prepare in case it did happen and then when it did happen we didn't have to panic and oh let's do this for three or four months and so you felt relaxed then did you a little bit yeah it was it was that muff you're like must do it it was um no but i felt like it was important to to do that because i didn't want it to obviously when i started the planning i was seven months injured i was when i actually started i was three months shut down so i couldn't do anything for three months um so i just thought now's the time to start i've got the time when we're in to do it so why not so that's when we started it and then i felt like it was a clever thing to do to get a team behind us yeah so that can manage day to day and make sure we have five or five or six different answers for whatever might come up and you know luckily we had prepared for for the one that did come up and yeah i'm thankful for that and are you the sort of person who knows exactly what it is you're going to do when you retire from football already or is it a case of you thinking no i'll just sort of cross that bridge when i come to it no i definitely have options but i've still got years left i don't have any to go a long way you got a long time left i hope hopefully i can play until you know 36 37 do you think like a coach or do you think like somebody who might go into business?

20:40No, I won't do coaching straight away. I feel like football is so like, people don't understand how mentally challenging it is. It's not always about the physicality, but mentally, day to day, just the concentration that you have to put in, it can be draining. So I feel like when I do retire, I want to come away from it a little bit. But coaching is definitely an option because I feel like the love for the game is never going to go away. So I still you know, enjoy playing football and being involved in the sport, so it's definitely an option. But yeah, it's interesting to... I don't want to, like, plan it all out, really.

21:15I just want to have the options and then when we get there, just see how it plays out. How often would you speak to a psychologist? What sort of work would he do with you around moments like that? When I look back, it's just like six or seven months wasted. I wish I would have spoke to someone before the operation.

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22:00So this section is called Failure is a Bruise, Not a Tattoo. So it's when I went to Valencia and didn't do very well. Yeah. Because it was shambolic. What was your low point, that moment where you just feel like it hasn't been as bad as this and you had to sort of dig in? Probably the lowest point was the pulse shoulder operation. I'd never had any serious injuries before, like, wearing required surgery or anything like that. It was tough mentally, cos I knew physically I was better, but I didn't have confidence in it. So you had to go into challenges and stuff? And I felt like I was backing away, and obviously because I play on the left side, I roll a lot inside.

22:36Yeah. So I have to use that arm quite often and quite a lot, and, yeah, I just didn't have the confidence within it, but... How did that come back, just time and just working on it? Just time, it probably took until... You know, like, the winter break in February, I think it was. We went to Dubai. Yeah. And then it felt a bit... I felt a bit more confident after that. Yeah. But it did take, like, six or seven months for me to feel like myself again. And then when I look back, it's just like six or seven months wasted. I wish I would have spoke to someone before the operation. And he would have said, listen, you're going to feel this after.

23:13You're going to feel like this. This could happen. But I didn't really. I had to just get on with it because I didn't want to miss that much of the season. So I actually came and recovered quite quickly. But just when the game, when I started playing... Yeah, you still feel right? Yeah, I didn't feel 100%. You said before as part of your team you've got a psychologist. Yeah. How often would you speak to a psychologist and what sort of work would he do with you around moments like that? Yeah, sometimes it's not genuinely about the football. It's just about dealing with setbacks. We actually did some good work, but you can do good work off the pitch, but when you get on there...

23:50You still feel like mum? Yeah, sometimes you just... something doesn't feel right. Do you feel like you're at that point in your life now, 25, where you've had that sort of... You've come in, you've had that huge sort of lot of excitement, then you had that little bit of a dip, and then last season you were just flying. Do you feel like you've come through it and that now everything else in front of you feels like, you know, you are going to be a little more unbreakable almost in terms of... Because you've seen it all before. Yeah, 100%. I just feel like I've experienced the biggest games and, you know, I've been in the most high-pressure situations and, you know, I always think to myself, like, how can I help other players like certain players have helped me and I feel like now I'm actually in the right position and and stuff to genuinely help them and you know help help them in the beginning of their careers and try and set them off in the right direction the same way people like Waza, Carras, Juan set me off and in the right direction.

24:43I was thinking last season watching you almost felt like obviously you know you've got a lot of excellent players at United but when you Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes weren't playing as a three it was a big problem that you were almost becoming the leaders in the team I could put Sandro Martins in that bracket as well do you feel like that now like you've stepped up into that leadership pack like you're one of those players at the club that everyone looks up to and if you're not playing it's like we're missing him today yeah I think that does happen but it's a blow when you lose any player earlier in the squad because the squad is the strength it's not just the 11 that's on the pitch I remember a couple of players got injured against Reading in a cup game.

25:24And it's just, it puts everyone down a little bit because Donny was out for a long time after that. Christian was out for a little bit. And the game was already won when these injuries happened. And it's just like, when you come in the next day to training and you see them on the treatment bed and you know how down they are, it's disheartening. So it's not just the players that are playing every week. It's the squad, really, and we have to try and keep that. I think Eric really concentrated on that when he came in, making everyone together as one. You know, it's impossible for everyone to play every game, but I think as a player you have to accept and support when you're not playing, and when you are playing, you have to give everything and try and do what you can to help the team win the game.

26:08In the league, there was a period where we weren't defending as well and we stopped scoring as many goals as we were scoring. There was a moment, wasn't there, where he sort of left you out? Did you agree with him on that point?

26:37So let's talk about Manchester United. And I think back to my start of my career and how fortunate I was to come into a stable environment where there was one manager, they'd just won the Premier League title they were brilliant senior players obviously they'd had success and I think of where you came into you've had absolutely the opposite of that you've had five managers you've had different styles of play a lot's been asked of you how has that been? how hard has that been? it's been a little bit tough but honestly I've enjoyed working under the different managers because I feel like I've been able to take a little bit from each manager and it's helped me mature especially in the early stages it's helped me mature quickly and help my game develop a little bit more.

27:17So I think there's definitely stuff that I've taken from each manager that's helped shape my game to where it is now. And hopefully, you know, we do get that stability now and we think all into definitely challenging and hopefully win the biggest goal for us. And then just talks about Eric Ten Hag. Obviously, you've enjoyed last season, you had an absolutely incredible season, scoring all those goals. What was the biggest difference? What changed when he came in? Because he certainly had some big decisions to deal with as well along the way and he was tough, wasn't he, with them? No, 100%. but just when he come in I didn't hear him speak about getting in the top four once he just wanted to win trophies and if you've got that mentality I've always been around people that have that mentality so he was telling you we want to win trophies at this club yeah it doesn't matter what we're playing in whether it's Europa League or Premier League any of the cup trophies he wanted to try and win everything and listen to players we give it everything we could let ourselves down definitely in the Europa League and I feel like in the league there was a period where we weren't defending as well and we stopped scoring as many goals as we were scoring so that's something that I'll definitely want to correct for.

28:23Those big games there were some big defeats weren't there in the sort of three or four games? 100 % but we'd always bounce back from them listen it feels there's no lower point when you go to rival teams and concede four, five, six goals there's nothing worse than that you have to try and find the positives in the game after we always had a good performance and one combination. How did you recover? Because you always did seem to recover from those defeats. What was his words or what did you all do after those games? We'd still do the game analysis. You'd go back and watch it again maybe? I even had like a 7-0 at Anfield and you'd go and watch it.

28:55Maybe not watch it but he'd watch it definitely and he'd dissect it to us in the team. Yeah because sometimes as players you definitely don't want to watch it but I feel like his understanding of players is very high and there's nothing worse and I definitely don't want to watch it. I don't want to watch any games back because what's the point? There's nothing you can take from him. But the next game, it's important to clear your head because you can't let that dwell because we had some big fixtures, especially after the Liverpool game. We had Solskjaer at home, I think it was, and we had a reliable form, so I think we won 4-1.

29:28But yeah, it's not easy to recover, but he'd always, throughout the time we had after a bad result, he'd give us confidence again and remind us sometimes that, listen you are you wouldn't be here if you're not good players and i'm not one to need that all the time but there is times after games like that you know just a reminder like it's the next game you're gonna you're gonna do it and he always gives us our full confidence and support but like i said in the end we fell short in the league i was disappointed with how we finished the league because i felt like we could have you know put a bit more more pressure on you know arsenal and and sitting in the end it was 15 points, 20 points gap, so it's a little bit disappointing.

30:11But yeah, we managed to get a trophy over the line, which is always important, not only for the players, but for the fans. I mean, the culture of Man United has always been about winning trophies and it's good to get back to that because it's been a few years since we had. He quite obviously loves you. I mean, you've played for him nearly every game this season, but there was a moment, wasn't there, where he sort of left you out? Did you agree with him on that point? No, 100%. I learned from pre-season. like a couple of the lads was a couple of minutes late in pre-season and it was important for him to implement them rules there and then because that's unusual for you you would never be late would you in any situation no listen I wasn't even that much late was he being harsh no I don't think he was being harsh because late it's late at the end of the day but it was probably about 45 seconds a minute late but I already knew what was going to happen because of the rules that he implemented in pre-season so I'm not going to sit and argue about it because we've got a game to try and win and Wolves away for us in the last couple of years, it's not been an easy place to go.

31:06So there's a time and a place when to speak to about it. But if we go on and win the game, then nobody cares. You came back from the World Cup and it was a glorious watch seeing you play as well as you did. I think there was only Erling Haaland scored more goals after the World Cup. What changed after that World Cup? Because you just looked absolutely unstoppable. You really want to play for England, don't you? Yeah, 100%. It's a huge part of my career and I feel like the team's very strong and we've got a good chance of winning stuff and I'm obviously desperate to be a part of it. But when I come back from the World Cup, I feel like there is a mentality change and I felt like I was up there with some of the best players in the world at that time.

31:53You sit here today having scored 30 goals last season and it was your best ever season. Do you feel like that's it now? you've hit that mark and you feel like Yeah there's no time to I wouldn't I think before that I'd always said like let's get to 20 I think 20 for a win there's a good bench mark but you know this season I've hit 30 so we have to try and push it now and go and build with me but yeah I feel like I can definitely do it I think towards the end of the season I was struggling with a few injuries and I probably weren't quite high and that's when the goals started to and dry up a little bit, but if I can get that side of it, keep that under taps, I feel like I can definitely go and get 35 or 40.

32:40Roy brought you into the England team back in 2016, which is seven years ago. It's interesting, because going back to my career, I think of Wayne Rooney had a hard time with England at times, David Beckham had a hard time with England, my brother had a hard time with England. Manchester United players do sometimes suffer quite a bit with criticism. and you obviously got that, you know, you were racially abused after the Euro 2020. Did it take away any of your love playing for England? Just the fact that obviously it was just a football action, it was something that happens obviously time and time again.

33:10I think maybe a little bit, but it wasn't for a long period of time. I mentioned with my shoulders a little bit down for a couple of months and that's probably when it was playing on my mind a little bit, but I'm not one to dwell on situations, I just want to be positive about it and move forward because like I said to you before, I feel like I have 100 % faith in the England set-off. I feel like if we get little things right, we can compete with the best teams in all, as we've already shown, but there's still another step for us to take and I do believe that we can take it. I feel like the squad, everyone's good ages.

33:43We've got a big opportunity there. I don't want to throw it away because of what's happened in the past. How important is it for you at the end of this season that you're starting for England in a major tournament? Yeah, massively. I feel like you know there's been times in between major tournaments where I've I've started for you know 18 months then it comes to the tournament and then you've been out yeah I'm not I'm not starting I'm like in and out the team so it's it's definitely important for me as a player to try and you know get that spot nailed down and try and bring my qualities to the team because I feel like it's listen we've got many good players and there's a there's a time for every player but I've still not had my you know proper opportunity in a major tournament.

34:24It's clear your future long-term is going to be at Manchester United, what you've spoken to me about today. How excited are you about that? Will we see you lift that Premier League trophy soon? I hope so. That's been my dream ever since I was a kid. I watched your guys in your team win it so many times. It almost became natural for us to see us win it. We forgot about the hard work that you put into every game and we almost expected just to do the fearing trophy come the end of the season. It would be unbelievable for me to get my hands on that trophy with United, so hopefully we'll manage to do that.

35:01And break Wayne Rooney's record? Hopefully. Hopefully, yeah. You're not far away, I mean, you're halfway there and you've played a mountain of games already, haven't you? Yeah. You never know what's going to happen, but I'm all about scoring balls and trying to make assists, so there's definitely a chance that it can happen. I've actually spoke to Wazza about it You're coming for him? No, he wants me to do it. He doesn't. They always say that, strikers. But he is a bit different. He is a bit different. He said it would be good for me today because I've grown up at the club and stuff like that.

35:33Hopefully I get the opportunity to try and make that happen. But all the talk, you're talking about staying at the club, you're talking about breaking the record. But was there a point a couple of years ago where you had that little doubt that you thought, do I believe in this anymore? Is there a moment where I might just have to go and maybe play elsewhere? but I thought that might have happened. Obviously, I'd not asked you at the time, and I'm only speaking to you now for the first time about it. No, I feel like all players probably go through that stage, whether they've been at their Boyhood club for 10 years or 12 years.

36:02I think, you know, when you think about it deeply, there's nothing better than winning at Man United. So I feel like at the age of that, I've still got a big opportunity to try and do that. And the timing just... I feel like we're closer than what we think, but we still need to take them extra steps and at the minute we've got a manager that's fully dedicated to just winning at all costs and he wants us to be as best as we can be individually and be as best as we can be as a team and at the end of the day he wants us to win trophies and there's been some games where I've come in for a few minute at half time because we're not playing well and he just says, listen, relax he knows we're not playing well but we're still in the game and we're going to fight to win the game it doesn't matter if we're in 1-0 or 3-0 in the second half but if we get that one goal just be ready for that one chance and it's like a refocus so it's important that you know I keep that in mind to the point where he doesn't have to keep reminding me you know it just happens naturally Do you feel like he's got something different Eric Ten Hag than the previous four managers that you've worked under that he can make that final step and get over the line and win a Premier League title?

37:11You know I feel like he has the only time is going to tell but I feel like he's got the players 100 % so we're going to give 100 % for him for the badge and for the fans so we should always give 110 % in every game no matter which opponent you're playing against and when you're the one that's trying to give 100 % all the time Brilliant Marcus, great to speak to you today thank you so much and good luck with the season thank you