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19 Oct 2026 · 1h 2m · 24 chapters

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In short

Football talk across multiple matches, focusing on Liverpool’s red-card win over Brentford, debate over Florian Wirtz’s early struggles, Bradley Barcola’s progress, and academy striker Lewis Koumas’ breakthrough; plus discussion of Manchester United vs Leeds, Lissandro Martinez’s comments after a Champions League loss, and standout goals/culture at Brighton.

Guests

Hannah Berner (Giggly Squad; co-host/guest voice) and Tim (the other host, former player/analyst speaking as “I” and referencing his playing career). No other named guests appear in the transcript.

Key claims

  • Liverpool’s performance after a red card was “superb,” and Wirtz criticism is overblown given his age/price and recent Europe/Brentford output.
  • Barcola is “undercooked” from limited minutes and is nearing his level; a missed 1v1 was pivotal.
  • Koumas is earning chances through pre-season/endeavour and fits manager-style pressing.
  • Post-match social-media apologies should be “gone.”
  • Martinez: no sympathy for his prior remarks after the Champions League game; leaders should keep quiet and focus.

Notable examples

  • Benfica vs Celtic: “kiss cam” awkwardness; Giroud penalty and second goal.
  • Liverpool: Munoz goal praised; Wirtz assist; red-card turning point.
  • Leeds vs Man United: derby atmosphere; United improved but lacked a “world-class finisher.”
  • Brighton: Fabian Hürzeler praised for an eight-month turnaround to third place; Diego Gómez long-range goal highlighted.

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Chapters

3:33

Casual Banter and Weekly Check-ins

Hosts engage in light-hearted conversation about their week and experiences.

“My ring won't fit on my finger I've got fat fingers this morning My feet do at times, not my fingers I've been on a plane or I'm scared, I don't know if I can get it up That'll be alright Ready?”
9:11

Transition to Football Analysis

Hosts discuss the transition into football topics with Skybet's support.

“From the biggest football stories to the debates everyone's talking about, we've got plenty to get stuck into.”
9:42

Liverpool vs. Brentford Match Analysis

In-depth analysis of the Liverpool-Brentford match and its key moments.

“It seems the obvious place to start with you here because Liverpool, for the second game in a row, their games have been decided or turned on a red card.”
13:50

Player Performance and Future Potential

Discussion on the performances of Florian Wirtz and Bradley Barcola and their future with the team.

“On the upward curve, do we have lift-off for Bradley Barcola?”
14:01

Player Development and Performance Insights

Discussion on player performance, pre-season training, and confidence-building moments.

“He still played well, still looked a threat.”
19:38

Injury Concerns and Squad Depth

Analysis of injury issues affecting Liverpool's squad depth and implications for upcoming matches.

“let a local break it, let someone from the academy break it.”
20:46

Liverpool Captaincy and Player Milestones

Discussion on captaincy milestones and the importance of leadership within the team.

“this Liverpool squad looks a little bit light now to me.”
29:51

Analysis of Manchester United vs. Leeds

Discussion on the performance of Manchester United in their recent match against Leeds.

“First half was better, I would say, because I think just for people who don't understand or have never experienced going to Ellen Road, the crowd play a big part there.”
33:49

Lissandro Martinez's Controversy

A discussion on Lissandro Martinez's comments and the implications of player injuries.

“Does Mbwemo need to take more of the chances that he's given?”
36:41

Dominic Calvert-Lewin's Impact

Analysis of Dominic Calvert-Lewin's performance and his importance to the team.

“Well, you can come at this from both angles as a player and a manager.”
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40:08

Diego Gomez's Stunning Goal

Discussion on Diego Gomez's remarkable goal and technique in recent matches.

“I think I must have watched that back last night about 500 times.”
42:00

Xabi Alonso's Vision on the Field

Discussion on Xabi Alonso's goal and his exceptional midfield vision.

“Well, I sent it to you last night because I was just like, wait, hold up a minute.”
44:12

Brighton's Successful Culture and Strategy

Analysis of Brighton's culture, player recruitment, and coaching success.

“But I'm really thinking I could have got a goal or an assist myself there.”
46:11

Comparing Brighton to Leicester's Fairytale

Exploring Brighton's potential trajectory compared to Leicester's story.

“And it was looking like there was a chance that he might have lost his job just after that game.”
48:46

Manchester City's Strengths and Weaknesses

Evaluation of Manchester City's performance and potential weaknesses.

“Manchester City, you just mentioned them.”
51:45

Chelsea's Goalkeeping Challenge

Discussion on Chelsea's goalkeeping situation following Martinez's injury.

“I just think both teams are in a different place.”
56:00

Champagne Preferences and Quirks

The hosts share their unique tastes in drinks, especially champagne.

“That's why Midi offers virtual healthcare specially tailored to women's needs.”
58:32

Harry Kane's Performance in Bundesliga

The hosts discuss Harry Kane's incredible performances and future.

“Not all customers will clinically qualify for medications.”
1:02:01

Champions League Hopes for Bayern

Discussion on Bayern's chances in the Champions League and player performances.

“and I think this was of all time, where they were talking about what's the best front three of all time.”
1:04:56

Decisions and Regrets in Football Career

Reflection on career decisions and the comfort of staying at Liverpool.

“I love the whole experience of going to Munich, going to the game, watching them and if they're playing, Another top team.”
1:07:29

International Experiences and Player Growth

Hosts discuss the experience of players going abroad and adapting.

“In my opinion, I actually thought it was one or two light anyway.”
1:10:00

Adapting to Change in Football

Discussion on personal comfort zones and adapting to changes in football.

“And I quite liked it previously anyway, with the home and away and the away goals and stuff.”
1:11:55

Coventry vs Spurs Preview

Insight into the upcoming match between Coventry and Tottenham.

“And I noticed halfway through when we were chatting today.”
1:12:09

Lighthearted Banter Among Hosts

Funny exchanges between the hosts about their appearances and set arrangements.

“You can't even say You're not in a big Dung suit Oh yeah look Cheers big man Cheers big man They've devoted you From the bookshelf Put me on top of Gary I can't be under Gary Neville Shall I stop it around?”
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3:57Yeah, you can go on Don't you start this morning I'm sorry, who was here? I would actually like that to be publicly noted Who was here first this morning? Me! Who was late? You! Three minutes late, it was. I don't care. Last week, I got the Stephen Gerrard stare last week for being late. Well, it was the opening day. I know. Should have been on Saturday. But you're relaxed now. You're comfy. I had anxiety half an hour ago, though. Because of? When you're in the traffic and you're thinking, oh, no. And I'm thinking, oh, Becky's going to do it. As soon as you start, she's going to come for me. All that, yeah.

4:28How was your week, anyway? What's been going on? Comes around fast, doesn't it? I know. You said that like it's a bad thing. No, no, it's a good thing. I'd done Arsenal-Lille, Champions League. How was it? Not the best first half, but Arsenal made some substitutions, brought Saka on, Havertz, and Jokeres, and they were different. They scored three fantastic goals. And then PSG City on the Wednesday. What happened with that? You told me you were doing punditing and I sat down to turn the telly on and I looked and you were not there. Yeah, I had a little bit of a bug on that day. So I don't stick to football in the morning.

5:10And when I left, stick to football, I felt awful. On the way down to City, I actually vomited. So I had to stop a bit with services, get changed. Luckily enough, I had a backup set of clothes. Hang on, why did you have to get changed? Were you sick on yourself? Sorry, I shouldn't laugh. That's terrible. I had a spillage. Did you? In the car? Yeah, I had a bag. I can't remember what bag it was. and I didn't know the bag had little holes at the bottom, like air holes. So it went all over me pants and my shoes, which I'm disappointed because they were swayed. Oh. Yeah, so anyway, I'm getting changed at Burtonwood Services.

5:47I've took my mat out my car. I've left my mat at Burtonwood. A disaster hour, anyway. I ended up getting to the game, and I just felt awful. So the decision was that I was just going to do the cold comm rather than... Just in case you had to. Because I was looking a bit pale and a bit grey. I will say there is nothing worse than being at work when you're ill. Nothing. No, but I grinded it out and it was a great game to watch and be involved in. Well done. I'm impressed. Pulled through. Yeah, well done. Well done. You needed that. You needed that. I went to Benfica. Benfica Celtic. How was that?

6:20Good. I have notes. I have notes. Can we discuss some things about it, though? Because have you been to Benfica? Yeah, loads of times. What was the stadium like when you played there? Beautiful But doesn't it remind you of just You have the eagle flying around before kickoff Yeah, that's amazing One of my favourite grounds But it's just like the Emirates at Arsenal Those look like it a lot, yeah I was so disorientated I was like, this is just like the Emirates And then I realised it's all sponsored by the same person I watched bits of the game, actually I watched bits of the game What did you think?

6:53I thought Benfica were great Obviously, the Celtic conceded very early A penalty Cheeky penalty by Giroud. It was. But he took his second goal really well, didn't he? Yeah. It was like bizarre stuff, though. I know you're talking about on the pitch, but off the pitch. I saw something that I've never, ever, ever seen at a football game. I'm going to say definitely in the Premier League, definitely at home. I don't think I've ever seen it in Europe before either. Do you know what they had? Go on. A kiss cam. Like, full on. Yeah, but that's not news of sport, is it? like basketball no it's very American though yeah like they had Prince playing in the background like you don't I don't mind that because what a kiss cap no when I was at the basketball it's good entertainment before the kick off or the tip off whatever they call it but it is but I've just never seen it I was like you get it in that concept and like I think Americans are a lot more open to it because they're all like yeah yeah go for it so did there anything go on tell us well it was just I was just sat there and I was like wait and it came up and it said like kiss cam and then they were focusing on different peoples in the crowd and like i just think as a crowd we're just we're just not ready for it no not really and there was just people that it was just like a bit awkward and then people didn't really know what to do and then what would you do what what would you do oh i didn't get involved with it why not dance would you dance on a kiss cam just look if you're just on your own or oh 100 yeah yeah i get involved i have no ashamed with that type of thing.

8:27But I just found it really odd that I was like, it's like 7pm on a Thursday night in a Europa League game. Your players are warming up. Can you imagine being a player or a manager and you're warming up and you just look up on the screen and there's just like people getting on? I just think, don't come near me. What, the kiss cam? Yeah, no. I thought you liked a kiss cam. No, I like watching other people on it, but I'm not doing a shuffle or I'm not kissing anyone who's around me, so just stay away from me, innit? Well, I don't know, you're making out at Old Trafford. No. Not for you? I will, that old staff would have scored again, but not.

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9:41OK, so let's start with Liverpool-Brentford. It seems the obvious place to start with you here because Liverpool, for the second game in a row, their games have been decided or turned on a red card. Yeah, and I had to do a prediction on stick to football on the Wednesday and I thought it was a really difficult game for Liverpool. The form that Brentford were in, the home form. Keith Andrews has got them playing really well. And I actually went for a one-all draw and I'm really disappointed in myself. Why? I just thought after a Champions League game away with a few of the injuries, I didn't expect Isak to start.

10:24I didn't expect Sabah's light to start I thought it would have been a similar line-up to the mid-week one in Europe so I just thought it would have been a really tricky game and thankfully I was wrong and I was miles off because I thought Liverpool's performance from the red card was superb because it's not easy sometimes playing against 10 men it doesn't guarantee anything so you've got to go and get the job done I think if it would have stayed 11 v 11 it might have been a bit more complicated in the second half but in terms of the results and the performance and the goals and Barcola and Wirtz being around the assists it's a really important day for Liverpool and it's a really big win.

11:06In terms of Florian Wirtz, you were very fair to him last week whereas I feel like a lot of other people perhaps went for him a little bit. He created nine chances from open play. I think we live in a world in football where someone comes with a price tag and they don't hit the ground running and start scoring regularly or, you know, they're not. They stand out on the pitch consistently. As soon as they start getting a bit of criticism from whoever starts it, everyone jumps on the bandwagon and everyone wants to really dramatise it and serialise it. I think Florent Werds has to perform better and give more.

11:43I did say that. I think he has underperformed in more than enough games. but if you just take a step back from all the heat and the criticism and think about where he's at, he's 22 he might be 21-22 anyway, I don't know his date of birth but he's 21-22, he's a German international, he does really well for Germany every time he plays there, Liverpool have bought him from being a standout performer in Germany consistently and he's come with this big price tag and he hasn't hit the ground running, it's took him a lot of time to get up to speed in the Premier League and he has been frustrating at times and stuff.

12:21The easy thing is to try and kill him and try and move him on and just wish him, how are we going to sell him or who's going to buy him when you just need to stop and think, well, how can you fix it? If you're the manager of the Liverpool Football Club, you need Florian Vert shining, you need him playing well consistently, you need him contributing goals and assists. That's what the fans want. But I've seen enough throughout his career and I've seen flashes of it in the Liverpool shirt to think, well, I think he can play through this and come out on the other side. And I think the last two performances in Europe against Lask and at the weekend against Brentford, he's put two performances together.

13:01He's contributed to the goals in both results, two wins.

13:08I'm one who will be thinking, if you're on the Liverpool staff or you're a Liverpool senior player, this kid is a talent. and okay he hasn't had the best of times so far but don't give up on him. This is not just Flodden Virts, I'm talking about any young kid who has a dip in form or who's finding it hard to cope with a price tag. I'm someone who's, let's work with him, let's try and help him, let's try and support him, let's get him in a better place, get him enjoying his football. That's when I think you'll see the consistency. So you put your strong two performances together after a disappointing performance against Man City last week.

13:46And let's hope that he's on the upward curve now for more consistent performances. On the upward curve, do we have lift-off for Bradley Barcola? I think we were so close to a big lift-off. If he'd have took the goal in that 1v1. For you, is that the decisive little point? He still played well, still looked a threat. You can see it more with Bradley. I think he didn't have the best of pre-seasons because he didn't play many minutes. I think he was training. But that's the difference as a player, Becky. When you have a pre-season, training's important, but it's the game minutes that gets you close to your top level.

14:20So I think, a bit like the Isak situation last year, I think Bradley come to Liverpool undercooked a bit in terms of game time. So I don't know how many games he's played this season. Is it five or six he's probably played so far? And they're not full games. I think it probably takes that amount of games to get close to your level. And I think you're seeing a player that is getting closer to his level. he's so fast, he's so dangerous he can take players on he can create and score the hat trick against Lask with all due respect to Lask is really important for him personally confidence, belief, feeling that you've actually arrived at Liverpool after again a big price tag and a big summer move but then to go and back it up with another strong performance and get an assist

15:09yeah but I think the 1v1 was a big moment yeah I was like go on that would have been beautiful in terms of the VAR decision the sort of headbutt action it was a really big moment you know you're one down and it's just before half time Keith Andrews is probably thinking let's just get in at 1-0 and I can maybe tweak a few things or change a few things he's probably got different things in his head what he's thinking of doing in terms of the second half, as soon as that red card happens, and it's a silly red card, but it's the rules and it happens. As soon as you move your head in a button action, button moment, you give the referee in VAR a chance to send you off.

15:50So it was very stupid. And it was a massive turning point in the game. But as I say, credit to Liverpool. You've still got to go and get the job done in that moment. The first goal was a beauty, Munoz. Still had work to do. It was a lovely pass from Wirtz. But the first goal, chopping in, the Ronaldo-type chopping, and then to finish on your left foot was fantastic. And he's been fantastic for Liverpool. He hasn't had enough praise and enough credit, maybe because a lot of people are talking about Verts and talking about Bradley Barcola. He came for£40 million. Munoz on the back of winning the World Cup with Spain.

16:25He has been outstanding and a breath of fresh air. Someone else who I'm very excited about, and I know I keep talking to you about him, but Luis Cumas. I think he's just bringing something totally different and exciting. Because as you said, we're always talking about the guys with the big price tags and the ones that are they firing yet? What's going on? But this is an academy kid that has earned his stripes and now he's getting his opportunity. But what's more, it's like he's taking them. Yeah. And sometimes in football, going back to when I got my opportunity, I got my opportunity at Liverpool to come into the first team squad and play against Blackburn for a couple of minutes and then I started against Celta Vigo.

17:05I got that opportunity because Paul Lince and Steve McManaman got suspended. And Lewis Kumas, I think, is getting opportunities now through his own right and his own way, but Ekotike not being available is big because obviously you're a man down in that front line. And I think what Lewis Kumas has done is he's impressed Areola in pre-season. If you think of Iriola's style, how he wants to play out of possession, he wants people to run hard for the team. He doesn't want his teams to get outrun. He wants them to be aggressive in your face. He wants them to press and counter-press. And this kid's strength is around all them principles.

17:46I still think he's got to work on a lot of his game in terms of his touch, his movement, and the bigger players that he's playing around to trust them in possession. There was a couple of things bounced off him last week, but a kid should be so proud of himself because he's being invited on the pre-season and he's won the manager over with his training performances, with his pre-season minutes and I love seeing that because I've been through that and it's hard to do and it's a great story for the academy. Liverpool is a club that we want our own in the team. It's always been the way from when I knew.

18:25I grew up watching Steve McManaman and Robbie Fowler. Jamie Redknapp was an adopted scouser who we bought early. Followed Jamie Carragher into the team. Michael Owen. So we wanted to be a conveyor belt and have on our own in the team because they carry that feeling from the stands. Curtis Jones has done that recently but has moved on. Trent's moved on. So Lewis has now got an opportunity to really go and grab that opportunity and be the scouser in the team. you have a special relationship with the Liverpool crowd and I hope he continues to thrive the goal for midweek will be huge for his confidence and his belief brilliant for the family it's just a top story but other young kids sometimes it's not just about being good technically and doing nice things as a footballer in possession sometimes you can win a manager over in different ways and he's done it with endeavour with desire, with fight, with passion and all the things that you need as well.

19:29How do you feel that we took your record? How do you feel about these things? Records are there to be broken. If it's going to get broke, let a scouser break it, let a local break it, let someone from the academy break it. You became the youngest player to score and assist in a championship. I'm not a record person at all. Not really interested in them. I never was when I played. but brilliant for him. Great week for him, and I hope now he's saying to himself, great week, but we've got Villarreal tomorrow, and I'm going to reset and go again, because that's what you've got to do as a Liverpool player, you've got to reset and go again.

20:10You do, and for every positive, there is always a negative. Dominic Saboslay, reoccurring injury. Is this a problem? I've had the problem. If I think what it is, and how it looks on the TV, and what people are saying, it's a hamstring, when you come back a little bit too early. With Amsrins, you can't risk or gamble or come back too early from them because they'll bite you and they'll bite you worse. So that looks like it could be a longer one now and that will hurt Liverpool because he's such an important player. He's a versatile player and the reason I've mentioned that is this Liverpool squad looks a little bit light now to me.

20:52if Dominic's out or Frimpong's out so in the right back area where Subozlai could cover we could be a bit like that it's important to keep Joe Gomez fit now which is great to see Joe back and there's a possibility that someone like a Ryan Gravenber at some point might have to fill in there because Orojo can't play all the minutes on his own When you look at who they've got Viral, Bryson which we'll come on to a little bit later Chelsea and Arsenal in all comps the next four. That's quite a list. Yeah, so they need everyone fit and available and to not have Eka TK and Sabozlai, they're two huge players to have out in them level of games.

21:30It looks like Frimpong will miss them. It looks like Sabozlai will miss them. They're a little bit right at right back. Conor Bradley's not available. So it'll be interesting to see how he manages Rocco and Joe Gomez in the coming games. But, you know, someone like a Ryan Gravenbirch might just have it in the back of his head that he might need to fill in at some point there. Might be during the game, it might be to see a game out, but they're certainly lighting the right back now. I want to do a quick pop quiz with you, very quickly, because on this game. So Virgil van Dijk became the third player to start as captain 150 times for Liverpool in the Premier League, alongside you, and who else?

22:12Just Premier League we're talking about at the minute. Do you know who else? Who managed to captain Liverpool 150 times in the Premier League. You? Jordan Anderson. Yes! Well done! It's like you know what you're talking about sometimes, isn't it? Well done.

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23:42So, Tim, I don't know about you at home, but as football fans, we've all got our things we can't do without. Well, in partnership with our sponsorship, Huel, we're bringing you one less thing, where Tim and I discuss the one thing we'd like to see removed from football. And we talk about this a lot, don't we, on the golf course. First one up this week, for me, I'll come up with this one, Tim. Post-match apologies on social media. Come on. They've got to go, haven't they? Do you know who I think started it? I might be wrong, but it feels like Eddie Howe and Newcastle going over to the fans. You know, everyone would go there and clap them.

24:15Lovely. Brilliant. Because they were winning every game. But all of a sudden, when you start getting chinned and you've got to go there and you're giving it... Some of that. Sorry, you know what I mean? Yeah. Sorry, it's on me. That's the worst. Even the manager. I remember seeing Hans Postacoglu. And I felt sorry for him. And he'd stand there clapping them. And they're all... Do you know why he did that? Why? He didn't want to go down the tunnel because he thought, I'm going to front this out. I'm going to front it up. I remember Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. It was away at Vicarage Road. I remember it.

24:42Right over. That was his last game. Yeah. And he was over there like that apologising. They were getting some stick. And I remember Bruno behind him giving it. No, it's not him. It's all of us. It's all of us. Yeah, it's like charades, isn't it? Yeah, mate. No, blame me. Blame me. I can take it. I'm strong. I get the fans' point of view because away fans, I don't know what you were like. When Liverpool fans, they'd come in their droves and they'd pay big money. So you've got total respect for them. Of course you want to acknowledge them. And there's nothing worse when you've lost and you're sending them home feeling as badly as what they do.

25:13But that, as a manager, I think now, if you started again as a manager, or I did, I think you've just got to set a precedent where you just don't do it at all. Of course, you love them. They're your fans. That's not going to change. But what difference does it make you going over there and clapping them? Because when you lose, when you're going for a bad spell, it's awful. You have no future in it. Especially, I was consistent with that. I would always clap from where I was and just walk down the tunnel. Win or lose. So I know exactly what we're at. What about a little social media apology? I like them as well.

25:43You know, when they do that, well, I'm really sorry today. We was rubbish. You know what I mean? Well, I apologise for the performance. Performance, yeah. What, players or manager? Or both? Players like to do that one. Would you do that if you was a player now? I mean, Newcastle manager, the Isler did it the other night, didn't he? It's commentary. You know, come out and apologise to the fans. They almost expect it now, the fans. I mean, but the only way it carries any weight is if they perform better the next time they're out there. So, yeah, I'm not keen on it. I really am not. Right, Tim. So, shall we lose that sort of post-match sorry that's always become inevitable in football now?

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29:50Let's move on to talking about Manchester United against Leeds. It was a 1-0 draw. Was it better from United this week? First half was better, I would say, because I think just for people who don't understand or have never experienced going to Ellen Road, the crowd play a big part there. I know there's a bit of needle in that game anyway, history, Manchester United-Leeds. when you're playing them derby games or them ferocious games it's not easy in the first half because you know Leeds are going to come and throw everything at you Leeds put some tremendous crosses into the box that Manchester United dealt with very well so I think to go in 1-0 at half time you're sitting there thinking Manchester United have played very well here they've had to withstand a lot of pressure they stood up, they were countered they were more physical I thought the referee was brilliant in the game by the way it was one of the first Premier League games I've watched for a while where a referee allowed a bit of physicality it was quite like a scruffy game at times though like a bit old school game I don't mind that maybe because it was my style as well but I just think sometimes I watch the Premier League and the product lately and it's very stop start we get all that with VAR and referees are fussy and they're giving little stupid fouls all the time and it's stop start and sometimes you're like oh I feel like switching it off it frustrates me but it was Leeds the United the fans were up the atmosphere was brilliant both players were right at it I enjoyed the first half watching it because the referee Dad in England I think it was if we can just check I think it was Dad in England he let a lot go and it was it was enjoyable to watch the game Manchester United obviously had less possession Leeds controlled a lot of the ball Leeds were looking likely they had a chance with a nether, but Man Utd go down the other end, scored a fantastic goal.

31:46Was that midfield better for United? Santos was in there, Tillemans and the Labour. It was a little bit strange and different how Manchester United set up. Actually, Manu obviously wasn't available. I like Manu. I think he's a really good player. But I think when it's Manu and Tillemans in there and Fernandes, I think them three as a group, I think they lack a bit of Dionysm, a bit of legs, if you like. I think with Santos and Belieber, there's a bit more power, a bit more physicality, a bit more, you know, they can get about a little bit more. So you can understand why Michael went with that personnel, especially Leeds, a bit of a derby, probably knew there was going to be a bit of a needle in the game, a few tackles.

32:31It did look stronger and more secure. United played in a system where it looked a bit more like a 4-2-4. Buemo was covering sometimes as a wing back down on that left side and Ahmad was covering down at the right and it actually looked like Fernandes and Tillemans were playing as like two tens in front but they were filling in for each other out of possession but I think as a team and a group the team that Michael and Steve Holland went for you can understand why they went for that, it was stronger, it was more compact but the big thing for me was there was more of that about them there was more running, there was more tackles they were up for it and I think this result in isolation is not a bad result I think it was a fair result, 1-0 I don't think Manchester United deserved to win it but I don't think Leeds did either but if you just look at that game the Manchester United performance was a lot better than the previous performance and a lot stronger and had a little bit more about it but because it's on the back of the run from the beginning of the season your critics and your Manchester United fans will jump on and say, you know, two points dropped and we weren't good enough and blah, blah, blah.

33:44But if you just look at that performance, I think Manchester United was improved, certainly. Does Mbwemo need to take more of the chances that he's given? I know he scored against Leeds, but in the Champions League game, he had a chance as well that maybe if he'd have put away, things might have gone a different way. I like him as a player. He's a heavy shirt to wear. I like him as a player and I really like them at Brentford a lot. He's strong, he's powerful, he's quick, he can score goals, he is a threat. I just look at Manchester United's front line, you know, Cunha and Buermo, if you go back to previous Manchester United strikers, they've always had someone who's prolific, like a box finisher who can score easy goals, Van Nistelrooy, Solskjaer, Coles, York, They've always had prolific Teddy Sheringham, who was more of a 10 and a 9, but scored a lot of really good goals.

34:39Then you've got Rooney, who scored all types of goals. I'm just not sure they've got that level of player in the front line, who's the world-class finisher, the boxed one who gets the ugly goals. In Manchester, you don't play well, they still win, because the 9's got an ugly goal, if you like, like a van Nistelrooy would get, who's a top finisher. but I do like him a lot and he is one of the United players who you'd say has been a positive this season because where's Kunio disappeared to well he never played him yesterday no he never played him I do like him as well I think he's a good player but you can understand why Michael went with something different that extra midfielder in there just to make them a bit stronger make the spine a bit stronger because they needed that they were under the cosh for certain times in that first half a lot of crosses were coming in certainly from Bogle's side.

35:33Young Lotto, I think he added about six or seven away. Harry Maguire, who you know, is a big profile in there. But I do think Manchester United's team, if they've got any aspirations of competing at the top of the table again, I think they miss a big dominant centre-back. I think they miss that. And I think they miss a number nine who's going to guarantee them them amount of goals come the end of the season. I'm just not sure I've seen enough from Cesc to say he's going to be this 20-25 goal a season man. I think in Bwemo he'll get you goals but I'm not sure he'll get you that level. And Kuhn, he won't get you that level.

36:11So that's what I think they miss. Speaking of that back line, Lissandro Martinez, he's had one heck of a week and then he went off injured. Poor guy. I've got no sympathy for him. I feel sympathy for him that he got injured. You don't ever want to see a player go off. No, no, no, I don't mean it like that, but I mean injuries happen. Injuries happen. If you're injured, you've got to go off the pitch. But in terms of the stuff he said after the Champions League game... That's why I've got no sympathy for him. Well, you can come at this from both angles as a player and a manager. How would you react differently in both positions?

36:48Well, listen, there's been many a times during my career where I've been thinking of something and you're emotional, you're frustrated or whatever, and you think, I want to say that but through respect for your club respect for your teammates the time and the dressing room you keep your mouth shut because there's a game around the corner and the club's more important than yourself so just deal with your own emotions yourself your own frustrations and get yourself ready for the next performance get yourself ready to play again which he did on the back of what he said I didn't think he was right what he said because I don't think it helps anyone especially a manager that's already under pressure I think as a senior player and a leader I don't think what he thought he was going to get out of that it wasn't going to help any of his teammates going into Leeds it wasn't going to help any of his staff or the club I think a lot of fans are like oh yeah well that's great because we think of the same of Wilcox playing Leeds at the weekend so I just thought it was a bit naive and a bit immature for a senior player if somebody had said that in one of your dressing rooms as a player would you have said something to them and as a manager would you have pulled them in?

37:56Well I think a manager would probably have come to me and said just to let you know I've spoke to him and this is what I've said to him and blah blah blah and I'd probably double down on it and just say look keep your mouth shut we've got a game here against Leeds you don't need any more negativity we don't need any more bad headlines you know we've just been beat in Europe you've made a mistake in Europe my advice is just keep your mouth shut and let's get ready for Leeds but he apologised he understood he said the right thing and Michael dealt with it I thought he'd dealt with it he wanted to get it under the carpet and focus on Leeds and they should have went on and won the game from being 1-0 up but credit to Leeds Leeds are good for it DCL coming through with the goals the guy's on fire Big Dunk did you hear him when he was talking to Mark and he was saying Everton should never have sold him I watched Dunk and Mark show yeah and that's what I like to hear people who've worked with the players, I only know Dominic Calvin-Lewin as a rival Everton player before he joined Leeds.

38:59Followed him for England a lot as well and I've met him a couple of times, he's a great boy and a really good kid and the best thing for me is to see him back playing and healthy and consistently repeating games because everyone knows if he's fit and available everyone knows the level of player you're dealing with. He must be an absolute nightmare for centre-backs because he can do everything he's good on the floor with his hold up play he's quick he can run the shoulders he can score with his left foot, his right foot and he's so dangerous from crosses as he's shown from the set piece he outstripped Buermo for the goal and the finish is terrific on the side he's in great form, his confidence is high but for me it was all about getting his body right, fit and available to repeat matches I had never had a doubt in terms of the level of player because I've seen him do it so many times for Everton.

39:53I've seen him do it for England. And it's great to see him back scoring goals and enjoying his football again. He is a big threat. I'm glad Leeds are having a good start to the season compared to last season. Yeah. I had a good one, which is good. I feel like I need a round of applause. Diego Gomez. It was unbelievable. I think I must have watched that back last night about 500 times. I then slowed it down and I watched it, the technique on it. Everything about that goal for Bryson was unbelievable. I haven't mentioned the vision. Just to have the audacity and the vision before the execution is phenomenal.

40:36It's a player who's playing with his head up, which I love to see. I know he's an attacking midfielder, but to be aware of that, the keeper being in that position, I don't know whether he's been aware of that from previous games, but whatever, he's seen that first and foremost, so the vision is outstanding. And you see a lot of them goals over the years where people have to hit them at a certain height. Yes. But this one was drilled. The way he executed it and the technique, he's laced it and kept it at a lovely height. because I actually think if he's tried to go any higher with his technique, the keeper might have got there.

41:22Benitez might have got there. So to sort of drill that with the power and the trajectory, it's one of the best ones I've seen. It's one of the best ones I've seen. I mean, what a goal. Lewis Dunk, goal of the month September. Correct me if I'm wrong. Correct. Well, there's no point even thinking about the one for... Brighton are just sweeping it up. And maybe it might even win goal of the season, that one. It'll definitely be in the top three, without a doubt. It has to be. It has to be. But then last night as well, of course, that then sparks everybody's greatest long-range effort. But I came across one when I was doing this.

42:01I know what's coming here. Well, I sent it to you last night because I was just like, wait, hold up a minute. So you're playing against Luton in the FA Cup, and Xavi, Xavi Alonso, has gone for the long-range effort. and I watched it and I thought, oh, that's amazing. And then I just saw a little red number eight in the bottom corner. I said, hold up a minute, I need to rewind that. You looked, be honest, Jammie went for the long range. You were through, you were running through. I was through, wasn't I? You were through. Did you like the run? That's late on as well, that's an unselfish run. Kudos to you for that.

42:36Yeah. But I feel like you were going to turn around and absolutely blast him for having a go. That's an understatement. I was going to berate him because if Xabi had passed the ball we had a 2v1 situation to go and obviously kill the game even more we were leading at the time but we was leading at the time, no? Yeah, I think you were 4-3 Yeah But again, going back to Diego No, but wait, you turned around I'm going back to it Going back to Diego Gomez Xabi Alonso has got that vision he's got that for young midfielders they're the players to watch, players who play with their head up. A lot of midfielders, they play with their head down, you can only see what's close to them and stuff, and you always have to pass short, whereas the best midfielders, they always play with their eyes up and their head up.

43:25And Jabby Alonso's one of the best, if not the best midfielder I played with, who had that vision, he had different vision, it was like he had wing mirrors on at times, and he always played with his head up. Jabby Alonso's first thought as a midfielder is not, what's the easy pass? it's can I play the most difficult pass and can I play the one that's furthest forward? If I can't play that, then I'll play them once. So for Jabby to execute it again, it's a phenomenal goal, but I didn't know the ball was circling in and I'm about to turn around and berate him and have a go at him. But then I realised the goal goes in and I just changed the berate and the anger to, well done, fantastic goal, incredible play, and went and gave him a little token gesture hug.

44:12But I'm really thinking I could have got a goal or an assist myself there. Yeah, you were so annoyed. You were like, well done. Can't complain about that one. But what Brighton are doing this season, third in the Premier League table, we know how the club is run in terms of data and analytics and how they identify players. But to actually then be able to create a culture that allows people to thrive, which is clearly what Fabian Herzl is doing, how hard is that to do? I've done a couple of games down at Brighton being on site live and bumped into Paul Barber a couple of times and you're asking him these questions about the club and how it's run and everyone that represents Brighton from the top down to the team they just seem to love working for the club they love the culture, they love going to work I don't know who's responsible for creating this type of culture but whoever's doing it needs to continue it because they just continue to thrive.

45:13They'd lose all the best players or sell the best players for top dollar. But they've just got this recruitment and this conveyor belt of more quality ready to go in. They never complain or moan. If you don't hit the price that they want, they don't sell, they stay strong. But if you hit the price that they think's all fair, you get the player. But there's never any panic or any excuse where they go, we have to give the manager excuse or the team excuse because we've lost two or three players. They just go about the business so quietly and efficiently.

45:48Managers thrive there. Potter, De Zerbe. Slightly different styles and principles of play. Fabian Herzl at the moment, he must be the talk of all the top clubs around Europe. I know Brighton people won't thank me for it, but the job he's doing is like, wow, it's a phenomenal job so far the key will be can he maintain it can he maintain it but the brand of football this is not a team that are sitting in a block and waiting and counter-attacking teams and winning by luck they're playing in a style that has blew Arsenal off the pitch that Crystal Palace game is not an easy game it's a derby eight months ago Becky this Brighton team and the manager were under big pressure They were singing from the stands, you're going to get sacked in the morning, to Fabian Hesler.

46:40And it was looking like there was a chance that he might have lost his job just after that game. I think it was February. So what are you talking about? You're talking an eight-month turnaround to have the team third in the Premier League. It's like, wow. And that's hard to do, to dig in, because you said last week, once that crowd is on your back, you can feel it. Yeah, I think if you ask most people in that situation, the conversation is like, yeah, it's only a matter of time before he loses a job. But again, there was no panic from the top at Brighton. They believed in the manager. They probably understood that they will have some tough moments.

47:20And they gave them support. They backed them. They stayed with them. And they're getting the rewards for that loyalty and that togetherness and that unity. You look at Brighton as a club. we talk about some clubs and you think they look like they've got so many issues to deal with and address and they look so far off I can't think of one bad thing to say about Brighton I feel like they're becoming everybody's if you're not a Brighton fan you're certainly looking at their team their scores it's like ten years ago Leicester won the Premier League and do you remember that season everybody was like rooting for Leicester I wasn't I was trying to win OK everybody bar you but Leicester became everybody's second favourite team that season and everybody wanted them to win it at Soz but they did I feel like with Brighton I don't know could there be a similar trajectory?

48:16I think everyone loved the Ranieri story as well I think he was very Dilly King, Dilly Doe but he's very lovable the way he comes across on the side and I think he's a real class manager and guy I think and listen, credit to Leicester, they were fantastic, what a season they had, great team, they had that togetherness and that unity but I think it would be a lot more difficult for Brighton to do that this season and you can hold me to that because I just haven't watched Arsenal and City a lot and obviously covered them live this week even though Brighton beat Arsenal I think the Premier League this year compared to when Leicester done it I think there's teams up and around there that are too strong I think for Brighton to overtake over the course of the season That's Brighton-Liverpool next Be some game though Oh, it'd be amazing Be some game I'm looking forward to watching that one For sure

49:18So we're loving a bit of Brighton at the minute What else happened this weekend? Manchester City, you just mentioned them. You've watched them a lot, obviously, whether it be Champions League or Premier League. 3-2 over Ipswich. Clearly seven wins from seven, top of the table. They've started really strong. Do they have any weaknesses, though? No. Do you not think they're conceding a win? I don't think they're unbeatable. but I don't think they've got many weaknesses when you look at the goalkeeper, the defenders, their options they've got the back-up players, the new midfield that they've put together I mean, Boadi come on against PSG and ran the second half and Elliot Anderson sort of went through the gears into the second half again, them two looked outstanding together as a midfield partnership it was interesting actually because I said in commentary PSG was so good for the first half an hour I thought Moresco might have made the change after 30 minutes and you don't like doing that as a manager but I was watching the game from the commentary box and they were getting overrun in midfield and Cherky's a fantastic player he's a maverick, he's a big talent and if you've got all the ball and you're dominant in terms of a City team you'd want Cherky to be in your team that's what I'd say but when you're playing a team where you're probably close to each other and it's a 50-50 game and you're getting overrun that much in the first half I think you can be a man down with Cherky in there and it was clear PSG were pulling Manchester City's midfield all over the place and they couldn't get near PSG and obviously they'd gone 3-0 up so he'd done the change at half time he made triple change at half time and City were so much better from that moment so much better and I think in terms of the Ipswich results at the weekend, it's a job done coming off the back of them Champions League games where you'd have to put everything in physically, mentally come the Thursday you're two days away from the Ipswich game the players are shattered motivation's different going into Ipswich because you've just had to put everything in against PSG, so I think it's a professional performance from City to just go and beat Ipswich because you've got to think Ipswich are preparing everything for City.

51:48Everyone's fresh going into it. It's a huge game. I just think both teams are in a different place. So for City to go and win that game and get it done and get it over the line, I don't think they'll care about the performance against Ipswich. It's just all about getting the three points on the board. But the performance second half against PSG was much improved and they could have got back in the game. they could have got back in the game it was 3-1 so they got the consolation 3-1 and then PSG went down the other end and Dunnar-Armers should have flipped one over the bar and it's gone to 4-1 and that's when it was game over but City had 7 or 8 chances in the second half they could have took something from the game it was an unbelievable game to watch first clean sheet of the season for Chelsea although at this point I feel like we should just stop and Emi Martinez that was nasty looking He's had surgery to a fractured draw, so wish him all the best.

52:45Is that right? He's a fractured jaw? Yeah, he's got a fractured jaw. Yeah, I wasn't aware of that yet, and obviously I've coached him. He's a good guy. Wish him a speedy recovery. It wasn't nice to see him getting... Honestly, you're so brave, because I know everyone is just going for the ball, and you obviously don't play football thinking of what the consequences would be, because you don't do anything to do that. These things happen when the goalkeeper area is packed, and you get deliveries and wicked deliveries coming in and honest players are going for the ball. These things happen, but wish him a speedy recovery.

53:16It wasn't nice seeing him getting booed off as well. He's one of these keepers. He's got one of them love-hate things going on, but let's hope he recovers really well from it. Absolutely, but in his honour then, they managed to keep a clean sheet. Mike Penders coming on. What do Chelsea do about this goalkeeping situation now? Well, they'll have to play Mike Penders because Sanchez left, Juergensen left and I think the third goalie is very young, correct me if I'm wrong but this is why you need two good goalkeepers and two good goalkeepers to be ready because these collisions and these injuries can happen at any given time so Penders is going to have to step up, step forward he did it the weekend and I'm sure he'll be called upon moving forward until Emi makes a recovery from it but it's a really good performance from Chelsea because going to the Hill Dickinson is never easy.

54:12Everton had a big chance at 0-0. Barry as the header could have been a bit different if Everton took the lead. But I think over the course of the game, you always knew Chelsea were going to score goals. They looked so good and so dangerous going forward. Henderson was fabulous again. Really professional, strong team performance from Chelsea and if Chelsea want to be in the mix come April time, they're going to have to find more of them performances where they do build results on clean sheets. Because I think if you would have asked me prior to Everton, I would have said they're conceding too many goals, finding it hard to keep clean sheets.

54:51Normally that won't get you in the talk come the end of the season. But if they can sort of find that defensive solidarity to build from, they've certainly got the players that can hurt any team. Yeah, I'm sure they'll be delighted with that. Loving Champions League football, being back midweek. You are going... You all right there, Danny? Yeah? I didn't want to come in in the middle. No, it's fine. Did you know what I said? Yeah. No, I like them. Appreciate it. I know, it's fine. I'm a shiny. I've got a paddle match later, so... Oh, dear, but it's quite warm. Fuel on the way, innit? I thought you could get away with it and then it came a bit more.

55:29I'm too shiny. I get like that. Thanks, Dan.

55:36Yeah, you are sipping that. Blueberry probably bring me flavour, though. I like it. I'm not sure vanilla's me, but... Vanilla is more me. What's this one? I didn't even see this one. Fizzy water, is it? Yeah, I think so. A daily vitamin drink. Can I have a go? Try it. I have to call this, but... Yeah, it's fizzy. I don't drink fizzy drinks. There's no sugar in this one, though. I know but it's the bubbles It's nice actually like a peach Oh nice Decent No I'm a bit weird like that I don't like The only thing I like is champagne But I don't drink busy drinks Big time not to win it Well drinking champagne The more expensive the less The better it tastes as well It's a problem It's a problem

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58:46Champions League football is back in a minute. You are headed to Bayern Arsenal. This will be exciting, going out there with old TNT. But Harry Kane. I love watching Harry Kane. He's unbelievable. In the Bundesliga at the weekend, 100 appearances, 102 goals. The man is on fire. It's worked. That move has worked. I think that's an understatement, isn't it? Because the numbers are phenomenal. Yeah. world class player unbelievable individual as well the way he goes about his work and he handles himself around all the attention you know it's not easy captain in England but for club and country he is just remarkable and I agree with you when I'm about to watch him whether it be for Bayern or England I actually really look forward to it So, you know, come Wednesday night before the kick-off, I will be excited because of the game behind the Arsenal, but he's one of the individuals that I'm delighted I'm going to watch.

59:58Yeah. I love him. I just, his all-round game, how clever he is, the areas he picks up. He has everything, right? His passing range. Knowing that he can score from any given moment, whether it's inside the box, left foot, right foot, the way he tries to manipulate to find a gap in the goal to shoot.

1:00:23He's arguably England's best ever, in my opinion. He's up there. For sure. In terms of a contract, there's been sort of rumours floating around. Nothing is confirmed at the minute. At the minute, he's still 2027. Reports till 2029. The club have said there's nothing to say about it as of yet. But is it a case of why would you leave? Well listen, one thing to say is there'd be lots of takers if Harry wanted to leave or he wanted something different for the final step in his career but from where I'm sitting it would be sign on the dotted line and go and enjoy the rest of your career because you're at a top club, you're competing at the back end of the Champions League, you're guaranteed to win trophies domestically, you're playing around some fabulous other world class talents, at least to mention.

1:01:13One, the grass is not always greener on the other side and you're flying. Companies, obviously a fantastic manager, Aaron Dank's supporting them there, you've got great coaches around you. Just keep enjoying your football, keep scoring goals. The weather is slightly better as well over there, I'm not going to lie. Is it? Yeah, honestly. I'm not sure about that. I think so. I'm going to disagree with you, I'm not sure about that. We will get some information on that. When I see them training around November, December, but it's snowing. I feel like it's hotter for longer, though. Maybe in the summer, but we don't play football in the summer unless you're in a tournament.

1:01:49Fair enough. Germans haven't got better weather than us. Anyway, yeah, love them. From where I'm sitting, sign on a dotted line and continue to win. I saw on Stick to Football the other day, and I think this was of all time, where they were talking about what's the best front three of all time. If we're talking about European football right now, surely Elise, Diaz and Kane have to be contenders. Well, I love them all. I love them all. I think they all complement each other very well. Luis Diaz, who we had at Liverpool, who I was devastated when he left, he's a fighter, he's a warrior, and he's got pure quality.

1:02:26And he's exactly what Bayern needed in that position. Elise, for me, again, like Harry, is in the talk now for Ballon d 'Or. I think that's the level. Do you think he'll win? I really want him to win. I think, I hope he wins. Me too. I think... He deserves it. I think Yemi and Yamal might just pip him. Yeah. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong and I want Harry to win it. He would be my pick. But going back to that front three, it is so good to watch, especially live when you're at the stadium. They're just so good. The system, the style, the way Vincent's got them playing, it's so attacking. They can all go and express themselves.

1:03:04They can interchange positions. I'm actually gutted Michael Alise suspended because he obviously got a red card in the last Champions League game, so I think he'll be suspended. And I was biased at my front three because I went for Mane. I saw that. I was like, take your Liverpool spectacle. I know, I know. Well, just giving the lads a bit of love. And it is the best three that I've loved watching recently. But, you know, if you think about Neymar, Suarez, Messi's, and Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo in the early days, there's loads of top front trees. but yeah I think if that three continues to be consistent over the next three four years if Harry signs this new deal I think we'll all be waxing lyrical about them because they're unstoppable yeah unstoppable do you think they will win the Champions League in the next couple of years they got semi-finals last time we both were there at that incredible 5-4 game that was one of the best games of football I've ever watched they were so close they were so close I think they will be in the last four again I think they'll get to the last four and then they will have to beat a Barcelona, in my opinion, or a Man City or a Liverpool or a Real Madrid.

1:04:12They'll have to beat someone who's close to them over them two legs in the semi-final. I think they'll get to there. I don't think anyone will stop them getting that far. But they need to use the pain and the frustration and not getting that last bit done and try and use it to their advantage this season. But I really like Bayern. I think they're strong. They've got really good players. and the atmosphere in the Allianz is an experience. It's top. It's one of my favourites. It's one of the best. It is absolutely. You can have a beer watching the game. The pre-match soundtrack is like this, it's fantastic.

1:04:45It's like this 80s Euro trash type thing, but it's really fun. It's just top and the noise 45 minutes before kick-off. It's unbelievable. It's deafening. It's like, wow. I just love it. I love the whole experience of going to Munich, going to the game, watching them and if they're playing, Another top team. What an experience. Yeah, you'll enjoy that on Tuesday. You never played for a top team in Europe. No. Do you ever regret that? I have no regrets in terms of the decisions I made to stay at Liverpool. Liverpool's my team. It's my feel, it's my love. So I've got no regrets in terms of decisions I made.

1:05:24Chelsea was the only time it ever came close. I had some interest from foreign teams. Who? The majority of that was through Jose Mourinho. OK. Into Milan, Real Madrid on a couple of occasions. And then at the back end, a few conversations with my agent when Schweinsteiger was leaving Bayern. OK. How I wasn't really that interested in it because I was never going to leave Liverpool at the time. I was enjoying my football under Brendan when that one came. But, yeah, three or four of the big teams showed some interest during my career, which is flattering, of course it is. and when you watch the likes of Jude Bellingham and Harry Kane and you see them winning loads of trophies of foreign teams and stuff like that, it does cross your mind and you go back and you think and stuff, but I have no regrets in terms of the decisions I made.

1:06:14That's great. No regrets. Good. Someone tells me you don't believe that. I do believe you. I do believe you, but just, you know, obviously you did what you did, you make the decisions that's right for you at the time, but I just... Do you know what I would say, though? Do you know what I would say? I see these lads now going and learning the language and settling and enjoying the football. Anthony Gordon's another one we haven't mentioned. That's what I mean. It's like... I'm not sure I had that in my locker. OK. Because I'm a home person, so I love being at home. I've been on record as saying, even when I used to go away with England or we used to travel away on pre-season tours with Liverpool and stuff, I'm always counting the days to get back home.

1:06:59So I just think Liverpool suited me, my personality, my character. I'm someone who wants to be around my family, wants to be around my friends. I just love being at home. Yeah, and that's where you thrived. And who knows if you'd have gone abroad and not been comfortable. Some people are different from me. They think, no, I want to go and experience playing abroad. I want to go and learn a language, whereas I never really had that bug or that love to do that. it is incredible the glow up players have when they go abroad I need a glow up I need a glow up no definitely not you can get a glow up anyway yeah you can no but there's no yeah you can but there's something different now you'll end up with new tea then a wig in about four weeks no but like Scott McTominay Billy Gilmore they've gone to Napoli that's because you go in there and the Italians they dress the best they look the best they're the coolest so if you don't get with it you get left behind yeah that's so true you've got to embrace it that's what put me off into Milan I don't walk around with all them and me trackie and me me Adidas superstars you're just just through Adidas in there they're your home comforts they're your home comforts that you had to keep what else have we got going on in the Champions League this week Liverpool Villarreal I don't think Villarreal have ever got a result against trying to jinx it Man United for you those that don't know trying to jinx it I've said it out loud now that should be straightforward again it's you know who's available because Orojo goes off at half time, Sabozla goes off, Frimpong goes off, I'm also hearing Munoz might have an issue only a rumour so I don't want to confirm that, it's only a rumour so you know the young kids have to be ready because I think he might have to shuffle the pack with Brighton coming up at the weekend so Liverpool's squad with three, four injuries is quite thin and light.

1:08:59In my opinion, I actually thought it was one or two light anyway. But with no Atike, no Sabozlai, I'm not sure whether Orojo will be okay and it was just precaution. Frimpong out, they've got some issues injury-wise, so it should be straightforward. I think it will be straightforward, but they've got to go and get the job done. Do you like the new format of the Champions League as it is now with this league face? Because we've got PSG Barca, which is a huge game. It's growing on me. Now I've got my head round it. It took me a while to get my head round it because I was so used to the previous regime.

1:09:34But I do like it. I mean, that is mouthwater on Tuesday. It's popcorn, isn't it? It's good. Literally. It's going to be unbelievable. Yeah, that Tuesday night and then obviously Bayern Arsenal Wednesday night's huge as well. So yeah, I mean, the big hitters are facing each other a lot more. So I'm I'm starting to like the new format, yeah. Taking you a while, though, to warm up to it. It was strange. I'm someone who gets used to something. I'm not really... I don't like a lot of change. I can tell that about you. You like home comforts. You like your things around you. Don't change your winning formula.

1:10:10And I quite liked it previously anyway, with the home and away and the away goals and stuff. Yeah. But that's because you're a man of routine. Yeah, and also I'd experienced it and played that way. And I liked it. I really used to love playing in Europe. but look we move and we get used to the new forwards we move and adapt push you out your comfort zone now that you've finished playing rather than you're in it and very quickly a very quick word on Coventry against Spurs just been looking at the form table there Frank's won his last two did you do some prep this week? these are notes I'm impressed I'm impressed I'm always prepping I can't prep for traffic though can I?

1:10:53won the last two and I'm sure he's going to be trying to make that three that's what you did in the three minutes in the car yeah just put it together but tough game for them I think Spurs are playing well haven't been getting the results maybe some of the performances have deserved I think they've lacked that bit of clinical edge around the final third but they've got a real positive result against United they're at home here against Covency you would expect Tottenham if they play well to take the point but Coventry tails up confidence up won the last two battered Newcastle in the end in terms of the scoreline so I'm sure Frank and Joe Joe Edwards is assistants who I know Joe are like Joe a lot I'm sure they're going to be saying to the players we can make this three on the spin they've got to keep that Tottenham crowd quiet for 20-30 minutes trying to frustrate them like Aston Villa did and chances will present themselves.

1:11:51But I expect if Tottenham take the chances, they'll win it. All right, we wait and see. We're wrapped up. Do you know what I've noticed? And I noticed halfway through when we were chatting today. They've subbed you out. They haven't. They have. They're being late. Look, you've gone. Neil Warnock, Big Dunk and Kera. I reckon Big Dunk's done that. You had a book there. I reckon Big Dunk's swapped me out. Yeah, they've done. Yours is in the middle. Where? Do you know what? You can't even say You're not in a big Dung suit Oh yeah look Cheers big man Cheers big man They've devoted you From the bookshelf Put me on top of Gary I can't be under Gary Neville Shall I stop it around?

1:12:33Let's stop it around Okay I'll turn it around Don't tell them Look at you all Smouldering there Looking well That's a blow up Yeah you have Had a blow up since then Look at that Try and recreate that face What's it called When they mark you all up? How do you mean? No, all the make-up and stuff, what's it called? Well, they mark you. No, like... What do you mean? Well, like, just leave it as a blower. I forgot what it's called. No, it is a blower. I don't know. Hair, hair, hairbrushed? Hairbrushed? Hairbrushed. Hairbrushed. Hairbrushed. Hairbrushed. Hairbrushed. Hairbrushed. I should have knew that.

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0:00 - Intro

6:01 - Liverpool vs Brentford: the red card, Wirtz and Barcola

20:05 - Man United vs Leeds: a better showing in a 1-1 draw

26:26 - Lisandro Martinez's comments and Calvert-Lewin's form

30:14 - Diego Gomez's stunning goal and Brighton's rise

39:34 - Man City stay perfect, and Chelsea keep a clean sheet

46:46 - Harry Kane, Bayern's front three and Champions League memories

56:15 - Champions League preview, and Spurs vs Coventry

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