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5 Nov 2026 · 56m · 21 chapters

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Ronaldo’s Retirement, Everton Could’ve Signed Haaland & Fàbregas To Premier League? | Overlap Daily

In short

Overlap Daily discusses Champions League results and standout striker performances, Premier League managerial speculation, and multiple “games gone vs games back” football culture debates (diving/feigning injury, sent-off tunnel rules, old-school matchday traditions). They also cover Manchester United’s recent match and Cristiano Ronaldo retiring from international football, plus a segment on football nutrition.

Guests

Duncan and Tim (co-hosts). No other named guests appear in the transcript.

Key claims

Goalkeepers are judged mainly on mistakes, not saves. Erling Haaland’s low-touch scoring is explained by positioning and breaking the line. Harry Kane’s longevity is attributed to clean living and sports science. Diving should be stamped out; Maduweki’s involvement in a late incident is criticized. Ronaldo’s international retirement is framed as surprising given his dedication and longevity.

Notable examples

Como 9-1; Liverpool vs Fenerbahce (3-2, Alisson error, Isaac link-up); Man City vs Arsenal (goalkeeper mistake, Haaland scoring); Arsenal’s Declan Rice role; Ronaldo’s Everton “almost” transfer; Manchester United penalty retake/encroachment discussion; Ronaldo/manager coaching philosophy; Batty vs Lesseau fight in Moscow.

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Chapters

0:42

Introduction to Overlap Daily

The hosts introduce the show and outline its focus on football topics.

“As a shipping manager, he's running the dock, stocking supplies, and making sure every order goes out on time.”
4:05

Record Goals in Champions League

Duncan and the hosts discuss the record-breaking number of goals in recent Champions League matches.

“This is Overlap Daily, brought to you by Skybet.”
4:50

Cesc Fàbregas and Premier League Prospects

A discussion on Cesc Fàbregas' performance and his potential return to the Premier League.

“Yeah Cesc Fabregas Yeah No he looks good didn't he He's in the next one coming to the Premier League Do you think maybe?”
6:40

Erling Haaland's Impact and Missed Opportunities

The hosts analyze Erling Haaland's playing style and reflect on the missed opportunity for Everton to sign him.

“Some of the top keepers made big errors last night.”
12:00

Harry Kane's Longevity in Football

A conversation about Harry Kane's new contract and his approach to maintaining peak performance into his 30s.

“and another one that we're talking about talking of strikers Harry Kane's just signed a new deal for Bayern Munich how long has he signed for?”
14:00

Longevity in Football: The Impact of Sports Science

Explore how sports science and professionalism contribute to players' longevity in football.

“Who's to say these players are not keeping going to their 40 now?”
21:30

Controversies in Modern Football

Discussing recent controversies in football, including diving and player conduct.

“I don't know it's a good thing if you're 2-0 up or something like that.”
28:00

Players and Yellow Cards

Discussion about players being sent off and the rules surrounding it.

“And it's players not going down the tunnel when they've been sent off.”
29:40

Unusual Football Celebrations

Exploring the humorous side of football celebrations and their consequences.

30:19

Challenge of a Gourmet Burger

Discussion about a football venue's challenge involving a gourmet burger.

“a 15 15 minutes to eat a burger yeah Yeah, apparently it's£15 for a burger.”
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31:30

Football Boot Warmers

Debate around the necessity and absurdity of football boot warmers.

“He was a bit soft, wasn't he, to be fair?”
32:44

Ronaldo's Retirement Announcement

Discussion about Cristiano Ronaldo's recent announcement of his retirement.

“There will be a week where we have more games back than games gone, I promise.”
35:33

Managing Superstars

Insights into the challenges of managing star players like Ronaldo.

“right ok some big breaking news Cristiano Ronaldo right has just announced he's retired from international football has he?”
37:02

Coaching Wisdoms from Experience

Sharing effective coaching tips learned from personal football experience.

“This guy has been at the top of the tree for his whole career.”
41:04

Reflections on Legendary Managers

Reflections on experiences with legendary managers like Sir Alex Ferguson.

“Sometimes we do overcomplicate the game and keep it simple.”
42:00

Memories of Sir Alex Ferguson and Team Dynamics

Learn about the importance of relationships within football clubs and managerial impact.

“I think it was called the Cliff, the training ground.”
44:26

The Changing Landscape of Football Management

Explore how modern football management has evolved and its impact on teams.

“And I remember Alan Hansen once saying on TV about you can't win anything with five youngsters, but he put them in the team and he's obviously, he knows everything.”
47:33

Comparing Football Eras and Player Development

Discuss the differences between football in the past and present, including player qualities.

56:13

Everton's Transfer Insights

Discussion about Everton's transfer strategies and player performances.

“Forrest are really struggling at the moment.”
1:01:10

Pressure on Newcastle's Management

An analysis of the pressure facing Newcastle's manager amidst poor performance.

1:02:09

Upcoming Matches and Expectations

Preview of upcoming matches and expectations for Glen Torren.

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2:01what I wanted to know was have you got the Wi-Fi passcode? is it stored? is it logged in? I don't know the Wi-Fi I can't even say the word the Wi-Fi passcode I don't know the funny thing was when the players when it actually froze and the players were on. It just looked thick, didn't it? It was so good, mate. Honestly, it was like... I didn't know we were filming it, to be honest. You know how bad am I on these phones? And I didn't even know we were filming it. It's gone absolute, like, viral on social media. The kids have told me all about it. I've brought you a gift. Me? You love your pigeons.

2:36I do. I've just been to Krakow. Right. I've just got to shoot before you. I just love my pigeons, right? But a weasel has got in my loft when I've been in Ireland, right? it's got inside my loft right in the pigeon loft up into the attic of the loft my pigeon loft it's got in through there's a wee gap I've got wee sliders to put the ventilation it's got in through and doing in took the heat off my pigeons how many? only one it's only got one because my son was kind of dating it and saw it you know what I mean it ate the pigeon ripped off because they go for the seed in the crop and that they like the meat but it's kind of the pigeons are eating the seed they go in and eat all the seed out of their crops man and the pigeons line their head off it anyway but look it was one of my expensive ones.

3:17So I've been to Krakow. I've never seen as many pigeons in my life like in Krakow Square and there was a little woman she looked, she had little gifts at the side of the shop so I bought you a little badge. There you go. Thanks very much mate. There you go. Of course I didn't see you last week I thought I'd bring you a little gift back from Krakow. Fair as king as well. I'll have to give you something in the end won't I as well. That's nice yeah. No thanks for that. I'll keep that. That's very nice. Nice one. Thanks very much. Cheers. I can't understand they street-picking pigeons. They're not like my pigeons, by the way.

3:47No, no, no. My pigeons are like supermodels compared to them. It just reminded me of you because I'm reading your book. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. It's good. OK. Honest. Very honest. Well, that's me, isn't it, I suppose, in a way.

4:05This is Overlap Daily, brought to you by Skybet. The biggest stories, the biggest talking points and the opinions getting football fans talking. We're bringing you right into the art of the action with Sky Bet. On today's show, Duncan and I discuss the Champions League, Fergie and Cluffy.

4:37So, Champions League. Record amount of goals last night. 44 goals Yeah Last night And there was another record broken as well Como Yeah 9-1 They broke the record for the most away goals Yeah Cesc Fabregas Yeah No he looks good didn't he He's in the next one coming to the Premier League Do you think maybe? Yeah absolutely I think he's done a great job He's done a great job there And he's spent a lot of money But he's spent it wisely Obviously the good result against Man United didn't he And he's backing that up was it Lons or Lens or something yeah Lens 9-1 9-1 it's a bit embarrassing anybody get sent off no just now can you can't see nine goals nine at home yeah so no but obviously you've got a good team there is it Nico Paz or something good player left footer comes inside bangs it in there all the time looks good look a good team doesn't they yeah they do to be honest I've not seen his tactical set up I mean I've not had time to look at it but I'm sure he'll be I don't know if he's he's Spanish or anything he'll be possession based I would think I just think with all the managers in November all the talk about people leaving managers getting the sack could he be the one under the radar that's the next one to step into the Premier League I don't know I think that would be his goal in the end because the Premier League is the best league in the world so he'll be looking to do that and obviously people will be looking at him now I know he's had a lot of backing but you've got to spend the money wisely haven't you so he's got a good go to it he's had a bit of time all managers want a wee bit of time didn't they they just want a wee bit of time so if my owners out there just give me a bit of time I've only had one game you'll have plenty of time great starting there now last night's game Liverpool Fenerbahce yeah Areola's come out and he said the noise at Fenerbahce in Istanbul he couldn't get the information over to his players it's Istanbul isn't it the noise as you're expecting it anyway the atmosphere unbelievable and Liverpool have come on stock for me the winning goal big centre forward long throw comes back big centre forward I think he plays for Kosovo him he was a good player back in the day I can't remember his name but no yeah the noise I mean Liverpool players are used to it aren't they are used to it you know what I mean Anfields is one of the noisiest places you've been I mean it is intimidating there it would be intimidating it is intimidating there you know what I mean but yeah they've come a wee bit unstuck didn't they the winning goal the ball's thrown right up into the air big Alisson the big keeper but he's got to come and get it.

7:08Some of the top keepers made big errors last night. Yeah. And they're no judged on the saves that they make, are they? Goalkeepers are no judged on the saves that they make. They're judged on the mistakes that they make. Is that right or no? Yeah. People remember the mistakes, don't they? And if you make a mistake, it's gone in the net. They don't remember all the great saves. No, they only remember the ones that cost you. And I think he'll look back at that and think the ball was in the air long enough to come and clear everybody out. Come and collect the ball. And he didn't. They got beat 3-2.

7:36Yeah. I think they had a perfect record, so a back hauler as a nine didn't quite work out, I don't think. Him and Isaac have really looked like they were coming up together. He scored, didn't he? Did he come on and score the head at the back post? Yeah, he came on. Why was he no starting? Why did he no starting? They tried a back hauler as a nine, and I don't think it quite worked, because last week the goal back hauler crosses it, Isaac, he scores. they look like they're going to really build something together those two do you rate Isaac? what do you think to him? I rate him I definitely I know there's a wee bit of problems with his injuries when he first arrived at Liverpool but he smashed it in Newcastle didn't he?

8:20before that was real associated I think he'd come through in Sweden I remember him as a kid playing for the Swedens under 18s and I really fancied him he's big, he's quick he scores with his left foot he scores with his right foot he gets a header last night once he gets into that rhythm of playing regularly I think he scored six Premier League goals this year I think he scored six four last year maybe so he's only played seven or eight games Premier League games this year he scored six goals so no I rate him I think those two link up back on back on yeah I mean look he's proven he's scored goals at Newcastle he's scored goals at Rio Sociedad and was it wherever else he was before that was it Dortmund or something there was a big controversy about Newcastle leaving Newcastle and everything yeah yeah Isaac so no but good player I rate him out and he'll score a whack of goals yeah speaking of strikers also yeah Erling Haaland yeah hardly touched the ball again during the game comes up with a winner yeah I watched I was flipping between the games City, Arsenal and I thought Arsenal were cruising I watched a little bit more of City to be honest again goalkeeper made a horrendous mistake at near post your boy the best in the world you said to me a couple of weeks ago to be fair he's made a great save just before it didn't he that nobody's making yeah but the boy comes inside and bangs one in and he just tips it didn't he and then about five minutes later the boy's doing the right wing and he's sliding it in the front post did he mean that you think I don't think he did I'm not sure if he meant it or no but he was way out of position there I would think oh he's guessing where the ball's going yeah and you know it was a bad mistake you take care of the near stake first of all I mean he's obviously say you know a lot better than me, he's a class goalkeeper I just think he's a wee bit wooden Things are not going well for him at the minute But yeah, Erling Arland again How does he do it?

10:15He never touches the ball He's playing between the sticks He can come short, he's no great on the ball coming short is he? He doesn't need a lot of running round because obviously I think as his game's adapted a wee bit he might be looking at guys like Ronaldo and Messi where they've no running around now but they're at a good age now so Ronaldo's in their 40s Messi's older he's starting to do that now so what he's thinking now is do you know what I'm just going to break that line and score a goal you just get down there and cut it back to me and that's what he's doing you just get in there and deliver it in the box and it's the hardest thing today in football to score a goal and he makes it look easy and he's probably thinking I've got another place to link the play up his manager says stay in the last line break the line and go because he's got that power to run by and he just gets in there and of course if the ball gets down up to the back post and he's coming at you you're dead as a centre back or a full back you know what I mean 61 goals in 60 Champions League games it's incredible man I mean just imagine we could have had him at Everton 61 goals in 60 games we could have had him at Everton really I'm telling you when he was a kid he'd come in at Everton when he was a kid and for some reason we never signed him because he wanted was it Mould or something he wanted 3 million quid or something for him he was only a baby then he was only a pup wow they let him walk back out the door but yeah nah he's got to be he's the best striker isn't he he must know he keeps making them runs thinking it will come it will come it doesn't matter that I'm not touching the ball much in the game I'm not interested in that all I'm bothered about is putting the ball in the back of the goal and he just year in year out just does it breaking records unbelievable big strong lad he's got a lot hasn't he he's got a lot he has very good player so I wish he'd have been at Everton there you go another one that got away and another one that we're talking about talking of strikers Harry Kane's just signed a new deal for Bayern Munich how long has he signed for?

12:08till 2029 so another three years yeah he'll be 36 yeah well players have gone longer yeah they've gone longer they're living their life better they've gone longer so clubs will be starting to invest in players that are a bit older you know what I mean he's got any injuries has he? has he had any injuries hardly any injuries that I can remember and he puts he puts a lot of that down to like is the people that are working with him. When he made the speech at the Ballon d 'Or, he's talking about his physio, doing things like yoga, his nutrition. I mean, yeah. We never did it, did we? No. We were stupid enough not to do it.

12:43We were daft, but he's living a clean life and it's paying off for him. And he's got longevity, hasn't he? Like your generation finished early. We were retired at 30s. I mean, boys were on the slide at 30 and you thought, I'm by 30 now. So you don't want to be signing them or they're on the dip but the modern day player now they're still gone so clubs will be looking at and they'll be signing players in their 30s now because they're living a cleaner life and he's a wonderful player and his game has probably never been built on out and out speed so he's adapting his game he drops in he's got great technical ability great passing great vision and what a crack in the ball and all the good things I've got that hit It's the technique isn't it?

13:23The technique or just whip it? When I saw when I first when I saw young Wayne on the training ground hitting that ball or then I went up to Newcastle and saw Alan hitting their balls and you can tell the real top, top boys have got that crack you know what I mean and Harry's got that you know what I mean Harry Kane's got that you see that ball and he's hitting it proper you know what I mean Yeah it's great it's great to see him win that Ballon d 'Or and like you say he's a proper professional and he's like everything about him is like ultimate professionalism isn't it Yeah well it looks like that doesn't it because they've signed him on a contract what is he 34 just now I mean I finished it I retired at 34.

13:59Yeah, so he's got another three years, you know what I mean? And who's to say he can't go to 40? Who's to say he can't keep going? Who's to say these players are not keeping going to their 40 now? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's a testament to the way they live their life now and how the sports science thing has all got better. But to be fair, back in your day, we knew these things. We just didn't do it. So we knew that the booze was going to hurt you really. Maybe I didn't know when I was 16, 17, or 18, or 19. So basically, club where we're as professional as what we should have been.

14:29We pushed the boundaries. I'm a great believer you are what you're around. You are what you're around and it's very hard to break out of that. And if you're around drunks, you'll be a drunk. If you're around drug addicts, you'll be a drug addict. It's very hard to get out of that. But because of the academies, I think, the football academies, that's helped the kids now and they've educated the kids on how to be a proper professional and that's all come in plus the foreigners come in as well who then they showed us as well and that's made an environment where the players are living 100 % they're living a clean life and it's becoming the way it should have been so they get longevity at the end of the day that's the way yeah that's it and that is it that's it for me and obviously it's ability and there's very there's very few players that are the best players in the playground become the best the world class players it's always it's always a player in the main that's got to work his bollocks off to get where he's got to get to there's very few Wayne Rooney's do you know very few very few of them yeah just on that there's this thing about this JJ Gabriel it looks like he's agreed a deal to go to Real Madrid yeah the wee laughing man you're needed so I don't know how can that happen where Manchester United lose him to Real Madrid at such a young age is it demands because I know that there's people involved because of rubbish no wonder he wants to get out but that aside though I get that so he's come through the academy and he's your next massive big star and it looks like he wants to get out and go to Real Madrid it's not a bad club to go to is it to be fair it's a big gamble for him but he's only young 16 is he is that like a downside of a new academy system that if you've got one superstar that comes out everybody knows about Real Madrid they'll have been on his case for a while so I don't know how it works to be honest you're tying young kids down you know what I mean back in your day we got 8 year contracts your manager was tied down 8 year contracts on 45 quid a week so I don't know how you can tie down young players to your academy now I don't know if it happened under Sir Art Ferguson you know what I mean he was probably sorted it out but there must be some way where the kids just walk away or something you know what I mean it'll be disappointing because they've obviously developed him since he was a baby and they're losing him, I don't know how much compensation he would get.

17:00Real Madrid is not a bad club mate, is it? And you go and train with their players on the training ground. So he'll go in there, he'll be training with the Real Madrid players which is an upgrade on the Man United players and that might bring him along. Arsenal, I was watching Arsenal, their crows throw. I've been like, I think, you know Declan Rice, I've been watching him because I listened to Graham Sooners half criticising him saying he's not the complete midfield player. Who is? Yeah. Graham? Graham, yeah. Is he the complete midfield player? I love listening to him. Yeah. But I'm watching him now, Declan Rice, and I personally think his game's changed a lot because he's getting in the box all the time, he's making forward runs, he's getting more assists, he's a great technician to set plays, he's brilliant at sitting there in midfield and ticking things over.

17:49Is he now the complete midfield player? yeah I would say so absolutely I mean he had a great overlapping run for the goal didn't he against Liverpool he was playing 6 but he got on the side and he cut the ball back so he's doing it all isn't he he's hitting corners he's taking free kicks he's running up and down he looks like he's got a real good energy about him and you do build your stamina as it goes along doesn't you you start to hit your peak you start to get more athletic you're moving around no he's a very very top he's a top player isn't he top player he can do it all I'm just wondering obviously it comes from his manager I want you getting forward more breaking the lines getting into the box whereas last season you'd say probably he sits a little bit more doesn't go beyond the ball now he's running beyond the ball I love watching him play I think he's an absolute top top player absolutely he is never misses games hardly ever injured there's another one who got released when he was a kid so he was near the top player on the playground was he?

18:49no I think he got released for Arsenal or something they got released for Arsenal or Chelsea or something when he was a kid he did he got released for someone when he was a kid and he went to West Ham didn't he West Ham it was West Ham and he went to West Ham so he was another one that wasn't the best player in the playground do you know what I mean and he's worked really hard at his game he's a unit as well it's probably because he's been leggy when he's younger big man you know when you're leggy and you're grown and you cannae run the people that you go they'd release you because they think you cannae run or you're no right but no it's very difficult to grow both ways grow up the way and out the way so when the kids are growing that way they start to lose their speed you know what I mean and their power that's what's happened to him that's why she'd never let a big one go I would never let a big player go mate again who's grown I'd never let him go I'd keep being him because you was quite slight weren't you when you when you was younger you're trying to say I'm no slight now well in the book you describe yourself as though you were big skinny I was a small skinny kid then I become I'm a big skinny kid and I was like a fawn I was like a baby deer my legs were all out of place all nice so just as your body developed I could not run I was the slowest player in my teams I could not run I had no real strength about me because I was growing as I say to you you grow one way but it's hard to grow the base wise it's hard to grow up the way and it's hard to go out the way at the same time so I was stretching and stretching and stretching and I couldn't run and I was getting overlooked I was behind the pack in the teams I was with and luckily it was a great man Walter Smith that spotted me I was getting released from Dungeon United I was getting released at 15 and Walter come down and watch the game and Cesar Cruz the big skinny kid he actually picked me for Dungeon United and I got my YTS then but yeah I was behind because I was thin and I was grown but now they're getting more clever on it now they're kids that are thin and grown up the way keep them keep them to the stop growing and give them a couple of years to fill out did you used to do like wait there weren't no weight training sessions around and all that was it was like you go into training don't you 10 o 'clock you train at half 10 you're done 12 o 'clock then your press-ups and all that didn't you done me bits and that but no there wasn't that much going on there's no sports science about really was there not not enough of it anyway like no no I can remember I think we just got warmed up didn't we but but then obviously the gym work become but actually when I come down to England that's when I started back in the gym really I didn't do as much in Scotland the Scottish I was one of the day in the gym and I come down here and there was a gym at Belfield all training going and I started doing the weights then and it was beneficial definitely This episode is sponsored by Huell official nutrition partner of Overlap Daily Tim it's that time again in partnership with Huell you and I are going to discuss one less thing in football I read some of the comments like some people not really having the getting the fans going last week they didn't like it they said yeah they said it's a good thing why is it a good thing?

21:42I don't know it's a good thing if you're 2-0 up or something like that. It ain't a good thing if you're getting beat 3-0 and then you're telling the fans to come and support you. I just felt maybe when you said it should be a straight red that it should be a yellow. Yellow. Bit yellow. Yeah, yellow. Possibly. How did you feel when you watched that Liverpool game with the feigning injury and you saw the McAllister... Well, a grown man throwing himself on the floor. Yeah. Just... Medweke. Yeah. Disgraceful. What McAllister was? Disgraceful. Right. You thought that strongly about it? Unless you start booking the players who were diving like that.

22:14Retrospectively, you've got to go to them, Jay. They're going to continue doing it. Unfortunately, that's what's going to happen. But what I don't like, what is Madweki doing? Well, that's what I was going to say, Tim. I actually think, I was listening to everyone on Sunday after the game and everyone's going, what's he doing? McAllister having a game, he should be, that should be. Yeah, I get all of that. But if I'm Mikel Arteta, I am fuming with Madweki. You're 1-0 up at Anfield. He speaks about it being like you're getting put in a tumble dryer. he decides to put his head to McAllister whether he touched him a little bit or not enough that's not the point you're risking you saw it with Yarmou you saw it with Benton absolutely brainless from Maduweki he could have cost his team there's still a load of time for Liverpool to win that game and you know what it's like at Anfield you've played enough once it switches you've got ten men you're hanging on I couldn't believe that no one really mentioned Maduweki absolutely ridiculous for him to get involved in that situation because that's the rule whether because Luke Shaw is not really going to hurt him.

23:13And even the Yarmuluk situation, that wasn't a big enough one. But Maduweki for me, like McAllister, ridiculous. We've got to stamp it out the game. But what is Maduweki doing? I agree with you. I agree with you. And I'm sure Mikel has seen it. And he would speak to him. You know, you put yourself on offer. I mean, I remember the one, which was great. I mean, it was when Gabriel with big man Erlen Haaland. Remember that? Yeah, of course. That could have ended Arsenal's hopes there. Haaland stayed on his feet. And he took a big bang to the nose there, but it ain't going to knock him over. But he just reacted.

23:46He didn't want to go down. He didn't want to throw himself down. He just stood up to it and looked straight in the eye. And he was like, was that it? I loved that. I loved that. But it's probably not winning the game. If he gets Gabriel sent off there, they probably win the game. I think that was, for me, that was a pivotal moment in the deciding of the title. Yeah. But this one, we're going head to head. Because I've never really, When have you ever seen a proper fight break out in football? Hard ever. And everyone goes like that, you know what I mean? It's like handbags, isn't it? You go way back, aren't you?

24:16Well, you saw one with Batty. Batty and Lesseau, yeah. That was a good one. Champions League, Moscow. Was it difficult to not, like, how hard was that not to laugh? It was, it wasn't funny at the time. I really felt for Ray Hartford, who took over from Kennedy. Where were you, in Russia or somewhere? Russia, Moscow, yeah. It was like freezing, minus 10 or whatever. And we weren't even in the game, you know. We were just getting it popped around us. and then it just flared up out of nowhere you know I think it was a throw one they both went for the ball and then Batty threw the ball back at him and the next thing I turned around just swinging punches throwing punches at each other getting in between them to stop it you know but it never carried on half time went in there it was over it was done I think David broke his hand did he?

24:56yeah what are you trying to hit him? yeah I think he's caught him and he's broke a bone in his hand you know because it was so cold I mean it was freezing but yeah it was a little bit you know he didn't laugh to be honest it's funny when you look at back at it now but you're talking about two very very good players there and whenever anyone sees them they always mention that to them if they're of an age they'll say what about when you had a fight in Moscow they had a career they had a top career great career both top players so that's one less thing we would like to have in football and that is feigning injury feigning injury is it a straight red?

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27:49Welcome to Games Gone, Games Back. Brought to you by Skybet. Nothing on pigeons this week, but we've got the first topic relates to Manchester United's game on Tuesday. And it's players not going down the tunnel when they've been sent off. So Kunye obviously scored two goals, got two yellow cards and got sent off. And I think he had a conversation with Carrick on the pitch about staying on the pitch when he needed to go down the tunnel. I thought you had to. I thought you had to leave the pitch when you got sent off. Have you ever been sent off? Twice. Yeah, against? FA Cup at Chessfield and I brought down Freddie Jumberg 1v when he was through Arsenal brought him down it was when the professional foul would just come in I thought you had to go down the tunnel I thought it was a rule that you couldn't just go and sit on the bench this has happened after the final whistling he's tried to come back out of the tunnel at the end of the game because obviously it was a good comeback wasn't it but I don't I had to What do you think I buried in the tunnel if it was me I'd just go straight down the tunnel embarrassed so I'd be right out the road right down the tunnel waiting for my manager to come in and give it to me not me game's gone one of his yellow cards was for his celebration as well I took his top of his for his physique lad and he's in good nick when he like is that game back I've done that a few times I'm not doing it now right he's got right he's got a petition on to stop that being a yellow card when you take the yeah I think you've got to be able to celebrate isn't you you know what I mean it's all part of the youth warrior isn't it game's gone game's gone game's gone he needs to get down the road let's go down I thought you said this week we're going to get a few that we might get I want them to be games back right the next one just shows how old school we are is Captain Pugwash oh that was last week you missed that last week yeah every time every time go music Captain Pugwash Fleetwood score a goal every time Fleetwood score a goal that's what they play that's what they play when they score a goal not before the game when they score a goal that comes on even when they're getting beat 5-0 yes they score a goal yes you missed that one glad you agree with last week so the next one is at Chertsey Town they've got a £15 gourmet burger which is quite expensive for football but if you can eat it within 15 minutes it's free is that games gone or games back a 15 15 minutes to eat a burger yeah Yeah, apparently it's£15 for a burger.

30:27And it's£15 for a burger? Yeah, so it's massive. But the burger's massive, so it's cheap. £15 is no day for a burger if you're going to take 15 minutes to eat it. But if you finish it in 15 minutes, you get it free. You get your money back. Oh, yeah, games back. Games back all day long. Games back. But are you sure you've got that right? Yeah, I think so. Nah, that can't be right. For a burger? 15 minutes to eat a burger yeah that's it look at the size of it oh yeah that was big leg could you finish that in 15 minutes let's have a look I mean that was big leg I mean I couldn't but goalie's good goalie's good goalie's good didn't you because he's like eating a bit yeah I think I'd have a good go anyway for it that way 15 minutes I would definitely have a good go at that has anybody finished it I'm assuming you've got videos on their social media you're doing stuff but games back shall we go and have a go at it yeah why not I think we should go and have a go at that I'd back you to do it Mark 100 % I would definitely struggle right this one comes from something Joe Cole said and it was football boot warmers oh my god games gone or games back oh my god warming the football some things when the football boots to warm them up we used to put wintergreen on our toes man yeah do you remember wintergreen yeah yeah yeah remember wintergreen didn't you and then the Vicks remember the Vicks I'd put Vicks all between my toes and all that and that's what you'd do DP on your toes DP and then you'd usually put them in the jockeys and you'd put them in the jockeys and you'd put them in the jockeys and you'd go oh my god oh your fucking game's gone game's gone yeah I mean you can't be doing that can you come on Joe yeah straight Joe's no saying that's a good idea is he he talked about it on TNT to warm up cold boots.

32:25Stick him down the back of the radio. He was a bit soft, wasn't he, to be fair? I mean, a luxury player, wasn't he, Joe? Yeah. Fantastic player. Skillful, yeah. That's it. Many thanks to Skybet for that. The game is back. Well, it's not. We only had one again, didn't we? There will be a week where we have more games back than games gone, I promise. I think that just shows how old school we really are. Exactly.

32:59Man United. Man United. Man United. Now. 2-0 then. Should have been 3-0 then. 4-0 then. And then another horrendous defending mistake. Guy, the ball's crossed in the box. Awful ball into the box. Guy misses it. Tapping. Missed penalty. Bruno. The camera went on to him when he took that penalty God he looked so Under so much pressure Missed the penalty Can we take the penalty? The good thing I think for Manchester United That performance From what I saw watching the game was It took that mistake By that defender to get back in the game To get them on the front foot They then got on the front foot Like they sensed something was going to happen Was it a penalty like?

33:46And it happened Was it a penalty? I thought he clicked his own feet did he not click his own feet and go down that's what I thought anyway I don't know maybe obviously they gave the penalty but no no yeah and then he misses it didn't he did look under pressure didn't he it's always a poor penalty when you miss them it doesn't matter if you miss them they're poor aren't they and then they did the retake what's it did they step in stepped in the box see the boy what's the rule so see the boy he saves it right and then the boy cleared it away yeah right see the guy that stepped in the box At first I thought they disallowed it because the keeper had moved, but it went to the keeper, the camera, and his foot was behind the line, so it was fine, but then it was an encroachment into the box.

34:25I thought it was, you know, they got lucky, didn't they? Is that the little bit of the look that might take them forward? Absolutely. I mean, they weren't getting into the game until that penalty, weren't they? So, you know, I don't think there was encroachment there. So, no, I, yeah, no. so gives Michael Carrick a little bit of relief time do you think or are they still in is it a game where we think that Manchester United might have turned the corner or not I mean I'm glad I'm glad that Michael's got some time as a man you just want another game don't you we talked about it you just want another game he got his other game against Chelsea go beat and they've given and maybe they knew they're probably looking for candidates I would think because they will be there will be but they won't have been they've given another game and he's turned the corner with that penalty you never saw it coming did you?

35:202-0 down at half time could have been 3 or 4 here we go again they come out did a bit better in the second half get the penalty that gives them momentum and that's what you need as a manager one mere game one mere chance one mere round well we've got some breaking news right ok some big breaking news Cristiano Ronaldo right has just announced he's retired from international football has he? ok does that surprise you? maybe a wee bit aye because we were speaking about longevity in players he's so dedicated isn't he God almighty when is he going to give up football because to play into your 40s mate you must absolutely love the game don't you you must love it man he's got this record hanging over him he's got to get so many more goals just international football just international football I can see that like a lot of travelling involved but he's done it for a long long time isn't he and he's obviously he loves his national team doesn't he he's been there forever since he was 18 or something he's been in the news hasn't he recently I mean the manager weren't seeing ITI and something's gone on there I just I find it crazy how a manager couldn't see ITI Ronaldo I mean it's absolutely nuts don't you think so how could you see how could you not see ITI with the best player there's ever been you just let him do what he wanted man if I was Is that the case?

36:44Oh my God, if it was me, honestly to Christ, I'd just be saying to you, what do you want to do, mate? What do you want to do today? What do you want to do? You want to run back? You want to go forward? Do you want to train today? Yeah. These guys, this guy's a superstar man. I wouldn't have hit one crossword with Ronaldo. Not one. Not one. This guy has been at the top of the tree for his whole career. Why on earth would you want to try and coach him? why on earth would you want to try and talk anything negative about him you'd just be asking him what do you want son keep going mate I don't know how they fell out crazy man I would never ever thought we're Ronaldo a player like that my god imagine trying to coach Ronaldo lad and trying to coach him you should be doing that, you should be doing this Would that be a case when the manager looks at him and says I want you to do this today would he just nod his head would he take it on board no because he would just laugh wouldn't he you'd tell me what you've seen my career you've seen what I've done maybe when he was younger have you managed any players like that like I've not managed them but I've managed them in a way where I would I would not but you're a star player I would not be telling them what you do mate you wouldn't need to tell them what you do I can imagine trying to talk to a Ronaldo man and say Ronaldo I want you to be doing this and that Messi or something I want you to do this this blokey what you know during a game say you've worked on some tactics in training and obviously you want the ball in the box you as a centre forward would you listen to a manager telling you what runs to make and everything or would you just no so if he's telling you like a coach nah not really I mean the only thing I go I've got two bits of advice in my life two bits of coaching advice that I took through my whole career two bits of coaching advice one was for Jim McLean right who used to he was a Dungeon 80 manager right spin to the back post on the cross right so link up the play when you link when you come short when we come short which I used to do in my game because I used to like the ball to my feet right I was near a runner and behind so I would come short off the play a bit like Harry Kane does no as deep as that right because I was younger I'd come short I'd link up the play and I was a wee bit lazy getting in the box so he'd say to me link up the play and spin to the back post dunk right so I took that advice when I was maybe 15 or something right so every time I linked up the ball I would run to the back post between the centre back and the full back so the boss coming from there centre back, full back I'd come to the back post and come out of the full back and centre back and kill them in between them or at the back of them because the full backs were always small you'd never get big full backs back then the full backs weren't big so we'd go down the wing we'd stand up up to the back post I would come in the back post and flatten the full back and actually he coached me at Dungeon 80 against Dundee in a derby come in short I lay the ball out I spun to the back post against Dundee bang goal such a simple simple bit of information you're 6 foot 5 get to the back post don't make runs to the front post you get to the back post and you'll stand up for him you'll destroy him so that's the one bit of information I got the second bit of information I got is from my dad my old man come to the ball come to the ball he says because sometimes I'd wait for the ball so I'd be waiting I'd be waiting for the ball I'd be waiting for the ball and the centre-backs would get in front of me because I'd be waiting for that ball coming up to me and he'd say to me come to the ball and that's the two things obviously there's more taking angle off now but my dad did not he just said get to the ball quicker now so every time somebody was going to link up I'd move quicker and that's the two bits of information I took through in my whole career in my whole career no matter what you was playing for I don't understand what coaches are doing with all these players how much they've got to tell them I mean I talk a lot as well when I'm management as well that's mere tactical play mere team shape this is where I want my six or this is where I want my full back when the ball's here if we're attacking we call it attacking balance so when we're attacking what's the balance behind the ball that's a tactic so let's say for instance you're attacking with five players you defend with five players it's quite simple or you attack with six you defend with four so that's tactical stuff but two bits of information come to the ball and spin to the back post man would Ronaldo take some information when he was younger he would probably but as you go older would any manager want to talk to a player like that and say I think he should be doing this It's really interesting.

41:05Sometimes we do overcomplicate the game and keep it simple. Now, two managers. It's Alex Ferguson's 40th anniversary tomorrow since he took over at Manchester United. 40 years. And manager Hawaii played for it as well. So I played for both clubs. I went to Manchester United on loan in 1990. apparently it was a favour that Brian Cove owed Sir Alex Ferguson Mark Bosnich couldn't get a work permit so can you remember when Mark Robbins scored the header against Forrest in the FA Cup which was rumoured that that saved Sir Alex's job I'd played at Old Trafford early on the season and I got told that I was going on loan I wasn't the first team regular at Forrest so I went as cover because Mark Bosnich couldn't get a work permit so I went as cover for Jim Layton the same year Jim Layton Aberdeen goalie The same year Les Searley God bless him Ended up playing In the replay FA Cup final For Manchester United When they beat Crystal Palace Yeah because Jim Litton Had a stinker They left him out After the 3-3 draw Jim Litton had An absolute stinker I remember that My big thing For those two There was two managers One thing that I look back And I was lucky enough To work I was only there For a month on loan So I was lucky enough To work with both Of those managers Yeah And clubs Sir Alex Ferguson Yeah It's a dream So when I got to Old Trafford, Mike Duxbury, right back, met me at the services and he took me my first day at the Cliff.

42:36I think it was called the Cliff, the training ground. I went to meet Sir Alex. And do you know the first person he took me to was the groundsman? Yeah. And he said, I think his name was Jim, I can't remember, Jim. New goalkeeper, Mark, tell him what he can and what he can't do. And you know when he used to put lines in the... Yeah, he used to scratch the six yards on that, didn't he? Don't be doing that running my pitch. And then he'd take you to the ladies that did your kit, sold your kit up. Then he'd take you to the ladies that cooked you. But he knew everybody's name. Absolutely. And I noticed he was saying things like, is everything OK at home?

43:15If you need anything, you know where I am. And I had, with Brian Clough, exactly the same. So the most important people is what I'm trying to get is, is those people that, to have a successful football club, you have got to have those people on side. And then the team, the last person I met was Steve Bruce, Steve Bruce, the captain. And Sir Alex said, Steve, new goalkeeper, look after him. That's it. Yeah, no, I firmly would agree with that. People, people within a building, right? Yeah, a football club can kill you. They can kill you. They can do you in the neck. Do you know what I mean? So, so with Sir Alex, it's probably built up a relationship with all these people because they love them.

43:52Yeah. And, and you've probably felt love for Sir Alex Ferguson or Brian Clough. so you would run through brick walls for them. And the people in the building would have loved Sir Alex Ferguson. Now, if they don't, they'll call you for everything, man. Yeah. I mean, people in the building will call you for everything. Before you know it, you've got a bad environment because, you know, the kit man does not like you. You've done something wrong with the kit man. The whisperers. They're everywhere. Yeah. They're in this building. They're everywhere. People will talk all the time and that's what they do.

44:19It's very hard to stop it, you know what I mean? There's very few loyal, loyal people in life, mate. But Sir Alex Ferguson would have had a good environment he's obviously gave him a bit of time didn't he and he built that up a very personable guy we still keep in touch I don't know what you do I still talk to him I still give him wee texts here and there for wee bits of advice even the Glenn Thorne thing did you know that his dad played for Glenn Thorne no way couldn't he Adam and Evert by the way his dad played for Glenn Thorne wow so see I text him I say to him your old man played for Glenn Thorne didn't he he went aye he did and he said that's right and he texts me back and says I'm making this name up and I'm sorry it was something like and Mark Bishop was a star player then he told us about the star player for Glen Torren must have been 50 years ago knowledge 60 years ago Sir Alex is in his 80s now and he knew about a player that his dad played with for Glen Torren Is it a question of like longevity in like so the longevity at Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson, because before he took over, they were in a mess, weren't they?

45:28Yeah. And I remember Alan Hansen once saying on TV about you can't win anything with five youngsters, but he put them in the team and he's obviously, he knows everything. So he knows everything about the football club, from top to bottom. That manager manages that football club. Brian Kluf managed that football club, from top to bottom. No interfering, they manage it. If they want to sign a player, they sign a player. It's changed, has it? It's changed because everything's changed. The world's changed, life's changed, all businesses have changed, but in the leadership of a club is now split. So there's no one main man.

46:07There's boards, there's sporting directors, there's football operations guys, there's everything now. There's no one main man. So the leadership now is split. So your dressing room in your building is looking at four or five different leaders and that's when it comes a problem. When you get time, And if the clubs allow the managers to get time, the managers then build power and then they can start acting. And that's when the players fear the managers. Now back in our day, we feared and we loved our managers. But because we knew they were the main men and they would get you out. But now, the managers are now becoming the main men, it's other people.

46:49so the player can sit back and just say whatever you'll be gone in two or three weeks back in our day that never happened managers were there for years and years and years and you could get the players out there was no transfer window you could get them out you could send them down the road Is the key then longevity because I look at Sir Alex longevity at Man United I look at Brian Clough he won two European courts longevity at a football club Arteta Arteta because there was a debate whether he was going to go on not too long ago Fabregas yeah well I've been talking about four years now aren't we they've given these boys four years now obviously they've done a bit of winning but Mikel he went into Arsenal untried as a coach as a manager sorry untried and they've gave him time haven't they they've obviously believed in them they've given him a bit of time but life's changed you don't get any time back in the day the managers got time and they could build success now you can I had four managers last year in one season and sometimes it works doesn't it sometimes it will work because they've had a bit of success Chelsea was doing that a lot weren't they sometimes it does work Watford look at Watford they didn't know they had success they'd sack their minds every two minutes didn't they I just can't understand how a manager takes over a football club with a plan you lose four games that plan's gone get the sack get the next one in yeah well I don't want those players I want these players I don't want my staff it's a modern world mate it's a modern world innit why don't we come up with a rule where the managers can only get sacked in the transfer window can we not do that real now can we not make a rule at least give us six months come up with a rule where the managers can only get sacked sacked in the transfer window you've got to keep them you've got to keep them to the transfer window it comes along did you ever play for Cel X did they ever try to sign you yes 96 did they really yeah I never actually spoke to them directly agents did 96 I was flying at the time I'd knocked into it Old Trafford bang good goal left foot edge of the box put Schmeichel banged it right to the top corner he watched it go in and a back post I got ahead of the back post 2-0 up at half time but I'm not bothered about the two goals I had I'm not bothered about the one I missed I missed one in the last minute they pulled it back to 2-2 I missed one in the last minute to make it 3-2 Schmeichel saved it I should have buried it so we drew 2-2 but the week before it or the Saturday before it we played that was a Tuesday game on a Saturday we played Newcastle with Alan Shearer's debut Alan Shearer's debut for Newcastle £15 million that summer I trained all summer I was super fit I trained all the way through the summer and I knew I was flying I'll tell you a story I went out once right all summer that summer I went out once I went to Royal Ascot all the boys for Liverpool and I went I went into the VIP lounge in Royal Ascot how I got in there I've got no idea right I was in stinking drunk smoking big cigars and Kevin Keegan and Terry McDermott were in the lounge and I'm dancing room with the jockeys life's not that you know what I mean I can't remember their names not Scoody Mum and all that and I'm in the VIP lounge dancing room with them and I've got this cigar and I've got this champagne or something however it was right and Kevin Keegan and Terry McDermott are sitting there and I'm rotting stinking drunk going aye I'm going to effing batter your team in the in the first game of the season that fucking sheer of this sheer of that Newcastle I'm the top boy you know what I mean he must be sitting on but aye right I'm sitting I'm a rotten drunk it was the only time I touched a drink that was the only time I touched a drink that summer it was the only time other than that I was in every day in training on my own battering the training I was super fit we played Newcastle in the first game of the season Kevin Keegan Terry McDermott were sitting in town it was a lovely summer's day it's the best game I've ever had in my life the best game I've ever had in my life I absolutely destroyed the centre backs I destroyed their team I was jumping like a fucking salmon Scottish salmon up there I was jumping like that Result?

50:50Did you win? We won 2-0 I never scored right but I'd done everything bar score right I'd done everything else set the goals up we won 2-0 and that was that was one of my I know my best game ever for Everton and it was Alan's debut Wow and we battered them and then we went to Old Trafford on the Tuesday and I battered them and they were on the phone then but Would you have liked to have played for him obviously I liked to have played for him Yeah But I was an Everton man Yeah You know what I mean I loved Sir Alex I loved that type Howard Kendall Sir Alex Walter Smith They were loved by their players weren't they and feared Yeah Old school manager that everybody was afraid of But they were good as well They were good weren't they They were just good You don't know information big man Did you find when they walked into a dressing room that it just goes silent Because there's this Fantastic this aura of this man I walk into my dress and I just keep talking and laughing and singing I think I've got a bit of problem at the moment they were special weren't they these guys are special they've got something about them and it's not so all about tactics it's about them as a person but it's like you say the game's moved on sports science everything's in the game too many people with too many opinions the problem in football this is factors the problem about football is everybody's got an opinion and that's the problem.

52:13So here's a question for you then. Playing through the 90s, early 2000s, playing now, when was the best time to play and would you rather play now because the money's loads better? I wouldn't rather play now. I'd want to play for the money. Yeah. Yeah, but we had good money back then. I went from 45 quid a week to 100 pound a week to 3 grand a week to 10 grand a week to 20 grand a week to 30 grand a week at Newcastle. so it was great money great money obviously the money knew ridiculous so I could I would love to play knew for the dough but I couldn't play I couldn't play I couldn't play the players rolling around in that I couldn't play I couldn't accept players coming to my face like that I would lash out I think I would get loads of red cards I was at a little football club a few weeks ago and talking about back in the day and playing and there was a young lad there and he it was a Q &A and he put his hand up and he said, yeah, but the players are loads better today than when you actually played.

53:15So I just reeled a few names off. I said, OK, yeah, OK. Cantona, Henry, Bergkamp, Shearer, Ferguson. Don't put my name in that bracket. Ryan Giggs. Forheadin, Forheadin. Scholes. I mean, they're world-class players, aren't they? And then he went, OK, you've got a point. You've got a point. look players are much quicker and fitter now than they've ever been they're covering mere distances they're sprinting harder they're stronger and that's it so you know so could could a version of them play in the game now maybe no right obviously no way they know that because that's quite modern but maybe no but if they could get up to their fitness and their strength of them then aye of course they could but just obviously the new games going so fit They're so quick, they're so powerful, they're covering the distance, quicker distance.

54:10But if players of their days were at the same fitness level as them, of course they'd play. Of course they'd, because they're superstars, aren't they?

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56:22Forrest are really struggling at the moment. Again, they haven't scored a goal at home. They haven't won at home for six games. They haven't scored a goal at home. They pay£15 million for a young lad, young Jalap. Yeah, no bad player. Remember his dad. Remember his dad with a big long throw. He was a good player as well. He's strong centre-forward. He's decent. Chris Wood, would you say he's probably coming? Chris Wood's at Leeds, right? I tell you, Chris Wood... I'm talking about this boy. Chris Woods was at Leeds right and I wanted to get him to Everton he scored 25 goals for Leeds in the championship and I wanted to get him to Everton and it didn't it didn't happen he was a good player and he went to Burnley then and did well I was just going to think with the boy from Middlesbrough I've not seen a lot of him what's his name Lancashire Lancashire right Lancashire so just going to somebody there he's banging goals in he's banging goals in there so you would want him to move on up to I don't know what I'm trying to say maybe Everton can sign him you know what I'm trying to say keep an eye on the boy at Middlesbrough you know I mean he's banging a lot of goals in there yeah Forrest Glaston as the manager he's under a bit of pressure by the looks of it everyone's under pressure he's a crank the owner isn't he I mean he's a crank isn't he but he'll see his success though because what he's doing he's obviously erratic spent a lot of money they're all spending money and he will spend a lot for a team that's languishing down there he'll keep on spending money and he might get a hit one day he might start winning a few games they're like Watford they're very erratic these guys and they just don't want to wait and give the manager a chance.

57:47And that manager at Crystal Palace will get another job because he was successful at Crystal Palace. Somebody will go, you know what, we'll take him right away and sure they should. He's probably thinking, I don't want to be here now. If he's causing problems behind the scenes, the owner, he's probably thinking, I don't need this. And he'll go into another job. Who did you have as your three to go down this season at the beginning? When you've seen them three teams get promoted, who did you have as your three teams? I'll tell you why. I'd Hull, Coventry and Sunderland. I thought Sunderland would struggle.

58:16I thought Ipswich might do all right. Now, we're being proven wrong. I'd probably see it switch Hull. I said Hull would go down with a record number of points. 11 points, Derby County. That's a record for the lowest to get relegated. I think they're already on 11 or 12 points now. So, is it changing the Premier League, the teams that come in promoting? Is it a sign that, like, because Sunderland did great last season. they're one of the teams they're going to go down aren't they or could go down couldn't they second year syndrome in the second season and that's what worries me about Forest they've become an established Premier League club had one good season out of those seasons and the rest they've actually struggled and I'm worried at the moment it's a long season big man you know what I mean you can pull it around they've got a good manager there I just don't know what's happening on the ground you don't know where the owner and the players what did you say he's brought in a young guy who did the lap yeah 50 million from Chelsea he's not a proven goal scorer but he's you know he'd get a dozen goals or something wouldn't he yeah the problem is they ain't scoring and they're making so many horrendous mistakes at the back as well it really worries me have you got any wingers of which are playing five at the back 5-2-3 they played like a 3-4-3 so I think when they had their success when they qualified for Europe they had Anthony Alanga pace around one side Hudson-Odoi on the other side and they played counter-attacking football and they were good at it and they were putting the ball in the box and Chris Wood was getting on the end of it now the system's changed, different managers the system's changed, I want to play 3-4-3 or 3-4-2-2-1, whatever they call it you're losing me there and it's kind of like it's going wrong but the manager has actually come out and said I do need to change, I have to change things have got to change and he's having like a little day they'll end up just changing him won't they that'll be it they'll just change him it's the cheapest way to do it isn't it they can't do it they're going to change all the players I think he's in the top three paid managers in the country yeah ok well they'll still be expensive for a minute but he doesn't seem too bothered does he you've got to give managers a bit of time give them a bit of time man but they're lonely you know what they're like they keep on getting rid of them so it looks like the writing's on the wall there and before I was saying you last time I didn't see you last week we had a quick chat I was too busy trying to sort out the wifi wasn't I we were on about Newcastle-Everton games weren't we so two wins two great wins for Everton against Newcastle the cup and the league yeah yeah battered them battered them in the home game and the cup game Newcastle manager seems to be under a little bit of pressure Everton the seventh in the league I just don't see it but it's very tight isn't it it's like one result either way it's like if Newcastle had beat Everton you'd be saying wow you know if everyone got beat they'd be doing a wee bit so it's very tight it's very early days and it's very tight but I do think Newcastle fans are a bit restless up there with that manager and Moyes is about to sign the Newcastle by the way I watched good I watched I watched Everton v Newcastle in the summer in a pre-season game in Edinburgh and Everton battered them there as well took three of them so he took three of them up there in the pre-season which was a it was a competitive game because I actually passed comment to one of the boys that went away look at the Newcastle manager he's taking us seriously he was running up and doing the touchline like this you know what I mean giving the big licks in a pre-season game we would just cast them as bounce games wouldn't we but he was actually they got battered Everton took three off them they beat them they took three off them there at the Hill Dickinson and beat them again that's three times Everton have beat them and he shipped seven goals in their three games I know one was a pre-season game but he was taking it seriously so no I think and I think the Newcastle fans are getting a bit restless I don't see it in the boy to be honest I don't see I don't see where you would be bringing him from wherever it's south or wherever they're broken from into that job into the Newcastle job you know after Eddie Howe when he had done a good job a very good job they wanted him a cup and got them competitive and I think they were pushing man for man up the pitch etc I think there's a wee bit what I'm hearing a bit more passive a bit more negative so no I think he could be under a bit of pressure that lad so back on to Glen Torren who we got this weekend Carrick Rangers Carrick Rangers three points expected to win or is it I think well I think we were expected to win last week against elite leaders Coleraine which is what fans are like and what clubs are like you know what I mean because traditionally we've been a very good club who's won things even though it was 20 years ago so I think we're expected to win the game but away from home they've just shipped seven goals against the last time so they've got to beat 7-1 or something in the last game so there'll be a bloody reaction for that they've got a wee tight pitch they've got a big centre forward who's bigger than me right and he's he's not as strong as me but he's bigger than me I was going to say he's stronger than me but he isn't he he's bigger than me and they've got a centre back who can throw it like like Liam De Lapp Rory De Rapp like Liam Dabr's dad I'm no kidding you anything here the halfway line it's in the box anything and he flies it like a bloody missile so it's going to be defending our six you know what it's going to be like you know what I mean the boy's going to pile it right on top of our goalie and the big centre forward is going to he can't jump big like Niall Quinn obviously nobody knew that level but that type of guy you know what I mean he's not a jumper he's just a big strong fella and going to put the ball right on top of him that's how they'll score their goals if they score any we'll have to defend they're two centre backs and we'll have to be getting in there but we're expecting to win the game I think but I was made up with the result in the last game because I could be going to be a defeat because we're a minute away from getting beat after the champion the league leaders but hey fingers crossed I can't play unfortunately but good luck mate anyway because I think that's a wrap is that a wrap is it good luck a bit better than last week it's great to see you in person anyway this week and I thought you'd prefer to sit me Becky oh nah it was brilliant we had it it was so funny it was great it was good old school football I'm glad that it intertanges with the wifi it was brilliant mate thank you for that beautiful don't really want it do you no I was thinking they'd put it up there so we could see it it's good that I was thinking about you though absolutely yeah

1:05:02oh can you hold the badge up to camera three don't just camera free er one two three here

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1:05:16because it is a blue cock

1:05:22so it's a a male pigeon is called a cock a male pigeon is called a cock and a female pigeon is called a hens and I'm with Glen Toran and your nickname is cocking hens that's unbelievable And Sir Alex Ferguson's dad played for Gwentorn. It's something we want, isn't it? Things we learn on this show, it's fantastic. Cock and hen. We go pigeon racing, shouldn't we? No, if I wear this, I'm going to lose it. At least you get a million quid if I want to. I can become part of the set, that, now. Yeah, there you go. Is that part of the set now, or you just put that up there? Yeah, it's just... Yeah, there you go.

1:05:57Can you see that now? How's that, you fella? Yeah, yeah, there we go. Happy days. Happy days, I'm going to get you something now.

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