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0:51We had penalty competitions leading up to the tournament which meant whoever won the penalty competition effectively were the best five penalty takers that's how Carragher ended up on the pitch coming on for two or three minutes. How can Jamie Carlow be taking a penalty and issues out? It's a respectful thing to want Scotland to lose. Surely you have more respect... LAUGHTER Isn't it? Is that crazy to say? This is a guy that wanted Manchester City to beat his team a few weeks ago so that basically... Yeah, hold on. Cheers. LAUGHTER The press had photographers taking pictures and filming us plaques on our penalties and they were printing it in the newspaper the next day what way every player was going.

1:27Iceland was devastating. I think about that game probably more than any other game. We've got a lot of players around the similar age, so they'll have more in common. Like, I didn't have anything in common with... They still don't. To be honest.

1:43So, welcome to the Euros fan debate, and this is the bit where the tables are turned and the fans ask us the questions. So, where are we first? Let's start with... Jim, you're on. Gary at Euro 96 how did the England dressing room react after your 4-1 win over the Netherlands when you found out that your late goal that you conceded knocked Scotland out was there any did you know what had happened in the pitch and was there any sympathy it no it wasn't necessarily at that point I don't think our priority thinking about obviously you know what had happened to Scotland because it's something that just happened during the game and that's probably as high as it ever got in my England career that night.

2:31It was something really special. But then when we did find out that Scotland had been knocked out as a result of that goal, it was a little bit like the cherry on the icing on the cake. No, I mean, to be honest, like Waza said before, I never went into a tournament unless we were playing Scotland, obviously, which we were in that one, thinking that I wanted Scotland to lose. You know, I would want Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland. I know there is an arrogance about England, or is there a perceived arrogance about England, but does anybody here want Scotland to go out of the group that's an England fan?

3:05Does anybody want Germany to beat Scotland? I wouldn't mind. You don't want them there? I don't mind if they go out, yeah. There is a rivalry, and it's important. So, yeah, I do want them to go out. You talk about rivalry, I honestly do feel it is a little bit, not a one-way rivalry, but I do think it's heavily sort of swayed from sort of, if you like... Yeah, they want to beat us more. It's a little bit like Bolton fans hate Manchester United. But it's important, it's a respectful thing to want Scotland to lose. Surely you have more respect for... Isn't it? Is that crazy to say? I'm being more respectful to you and Scottish fans.

3:40It's a rivalry, it's a rivalry. Club rivalry, country rivalry. But just to go home... City fans want United to lose, vice versa. Isn't it patronising to hear England fans, oh, we want you to do well? This is a guy that wanted Manchester City to beat his team a few weeks ago so that basically you're the... Yeah, I'll talk to you.

3:59As long as they don't do better than us, I'm happy. But when you say rivalry, I mean, I know that traditional England-Scotland rivalry, but going to matches, for me, the one team that I always want to beat is Argentina. Every game that we've played them has been an absolute banger that you've been there. On the terraces, you know, the matches, 98 in Saint -Étienne, the one up in Sapporo was probably one of the best games that I've ever been to. You know what I'm saying? Rivalry, yes, but there's a real rivalry. For me, it was always just Germany just because of what happened in Euro 96 and just generally just throughout our childhoods in terms of what happened.

4:32And I think when England beat Germany in Euro 2020, obviously Gareth obviously was the manager. To me, that's a big thing, that. You know, to beat Germany, I think, is an ultimate in terms of, because we've always fallen short against them in my mind. So for me, Germany would be, I think, England's big rival. The 5-1 was brilliant. Pardon? The 5-1 was awesome. Yeah, I mean, I had bad results. The 5-1 was amazing, but then the Kevin Keegan game, which was the 1-0 last ever game at Wembley when Kevin retired after the game, was, you know... The Lampard goal as well, wasn't it? Yeah, and the Lampard goal in 2010.

5:07You've then got them, I think they beat us in Euro 2000, didn't they, and we went out. So, they just... No, we beat them. You were in 96, eh? We beat them in 2000. Oh, we beat them in 2000. We did, sorry. We went out of the group, but we beat them. That was the first time we beat them. Yeah, we did. After that, we felt, actually, I think, That rivalry thing kind of dissipated a little bit because we'd beaten them for once. But we've had some good and bad memories against them. I just feel like the Euro 96 will never really probably leave me in terms of thinking of them as the biggest rival. Who do you think England's biggest rival is when you think of England?

5:36Who do you want to beat most?

5:40Probably Germany, yeah. I think... Probably Germany. But just because of my experiences, I would say Portugal as well. Yeah, I was thinking whether you would say Portugal. You think about his experiences against Portugal, you think about... Yeah, no, I think just in terms of obviously he broke my foot in 2004. He beat us, got sent off in 2006, he beat us on penalties both at them times. So, for me, I'd love to see England beat Portugal in the final. You know Ronaldo, after he did the wink, when the first time you met him after that, was there any frostiness? Did you think you were... No, I think you was as well.

6:16We were trying to get him booked for diving. and if I could get Ronaldo sent off so just part of the game yeah 100 % would and I spoke to him in the tunnel after the game said forgot about wishing him good luck for the rest of the tournament and then it was after that I think Sir Alex called me up do you remember I was in the office with you? Sir Alex called me up to make sure I was okay which I was fine I think Ronaldo was a bit scared I was fine no issue Yeah, there's no carryover after stuff like that. Right, next question, who we got? Dan, you're on. Wayne, what was Gary like as a coach at Euro 2016?

6:59And Gary, what was Wayne like as a player at Euro 2016? Shit. Do you know what, he was good, and I think cos I was captain as well, we had to... I was involved a lot in what Roy and Gary wanted. so that was a good experience for me from that point of view and obviously playing with Gaz for so many years I think we agreed and disagreed on things didn't we which is fine, is normal and I think the one thing which Gaz brought in was really good was the players doing their own meetings and taking ownership I felt that helped the young players a lot because what we do we go in and so as a group of forwards we go into a meeting because we just have a team meeting, the whole team is here, no one would speak, players don't want to speak out so we do smaller meetings with just the players in, no staff and then you get players all of a sudden start to talk, get a bit more comfortable talking and then tactically on the pitch we're working on however we thought we'd win the game but yeah, he was okay.

8:06To be honest with you, at that point, I was doing the meetings with the players, I was doing the analysis basically so Roy and Ray were doing the coaching and I just had this thing about sort of like you're doing team meetings and basically it's like you speak it's like lectures at probably university where you've got like these 100 people sat in front of you or 25 players and you're just talking at them and there's no feedback and you have no idea they just walk out and you think about well did any of that sink in just broke them down into units and actually I would be in there and they'd start to do it themselves and I actually believed in it quite a lot not necessarily that it brought any success, it obviously didn't in the great thing, and neither would any meeting, but I just, I believed it in terms of just generally a leadership style, to be fair, of having people speak back, and hearing what they were saying, and how we were playing, but like I say, you don't get the results sometimes, and we're obviously getting beat by Iceland, I was, Justin McWazza, but all of the players, you know, there wasn't this idea that, and Roy would say the same if we were here now, we would never ever say, sometimes you feel as a coach, and you'll have this, where you think players have let you down or you think that players haven't given their all or you think they're having us over.

9:14We never thought that in any point in the four years. You know, this idea that lads don't care about playing for England, we knew they cared about playing for England. That sometimes maybe didn't come across. It may be sometimes when we went out against Iceland, people think that, you know, you think about the fans who've travelled over, spent all that money, thousands of pounds, they've sacrificed their summer, made those choices. And the players are absolutely devastated. They're absolutely devastated. If you see, on a daily basis, the work which obviously the staff, the players are putting in and trying to break down the opposition, trying to analyse opposition, then players in the training, recovery, you're doing everything you can to try and win.

9:54That moment when you get knocked out in the dressing room, it's horrible. It's the worst feeling you can have. It doesn't make sense, does it? If you just think logically, does anybody think, let's use this current group of England players, does anybody think that they're enjoying and looking forward to being criticised for going out early? Doesn't make sense, does it? So this idea that, you know, ultimately they are human beings, and we can say this before a tournament, but you know in the heat in the next few weeks, a big country will go out of the group and there'll be all this pile on towards them.

10:27It's just going to happen. And look, there should be criticism, there's no doubt about that. But don't, please separate the criticism which is due from the fact that the players don't, They decide that players don't care, they're on this much money. That is what you will hear. Honestly, I've never, in my experience, and I think, to be fair, I'm looking at a player who, to be fair, died on the pitch every single week when he played football. He literally did. He would give his all. But towards the end, we lost games. We went out of tournaments and we made mistakes maybe at times. But there was never a lack of care or lack of effort.

11:02It was never down to that. Sometimes lack of quality. Maybe sometimes wrong choices that you could argue on the pitch. Maybe sometimes team selection wasn't great in tournaments gone by that you think we could have picked different players. But there's this care bit. I don't know many football players that don't care. Usually when a football player looks like he doesn't care, there's usually something a lot deeper going on in their lives or with themselves. That's usually my experience of players. Because they're usually good kids growing up that really are desperate to play football well. and obviously he was a dream to work with but the rest of them were as well, every single one of them and Iceland was devastating.

11:40It's the one game of football that I've watched in my life where I still to this day, I think about that game probably more than any other game. I think about all the great games or all the big defeats for United but going out of tournaments with England, that was the worst. That was the one game for me where with 25 minutes left I knew we weren't going to score It felt like watching it as well It was like it So I knew we weren't going to score And that's why I'm concerned with the England squad now Because What happened I'm not blaming him You think they didn't feel like that But what happened Is we brought a lot of Attack on players onto the pitch And we lost our shape We lost our discipline We were rushing things We weren't One of the things We used to do at Manchester United Is we used to stay patient Right up until the 90th minute And we'd keep doing the right things and in this England game against Iceland we had 25 minutes to go we just lost all our shape discipline lost everything I was in the middle of the pitch I was in midfield at the time and I was there I looked up the clock 25 minutes left and was thinking we're going to go out here we're not going to score and that's the only time I've ever had that Did it feel like it was falling apart?

12:50Yeah I was watching all I think there was Vardy I think there was Sturridge Wiltshire come on was playing higher than me in midfield Danny Rose on the left can't remember he was on the right but there was just so many attacking players and then when Iceland would break I'm in the middle and I could see them thinking we're in trouble here we're not going to score and that was I had that feeling for 25 minutes It does sometimes like just fall apart around you sometimes in a game of football and for England I mean more often than not I went out on penalties I think I went out on penalties four or five times two to Portugal one to Germany in...

13:3396. 96. One to Italy with Roy in the first tournament in 2012. I thought it was one more. Argentina. Argentina, 98. Argentina, 98. So five out of eight tournaments, I went out on penalties. So the two big things for me were basically penalties. I mean, we won one penalty shootout in my time as a player in a club. When you were talking about the media before, I remember this was in Brazil. Yeah. When we were practising penalties the day before the game, and the press had photographers taking pictures and filming us, practising our penalties, and they were printing it in the newspaper the next day, what way every player was going.

14:19And then they're the first ones, though, to come straight on top of you and say that you were shit. Yeah, no, so we were like... What chance have you got? We were like, what are you doing? Yeah. when your own media is going against you absolutely zero chance and it was like well if I don't print it someone else will print it and it's like what just be the bigger person support your name I just remembered that actually that was I actually to be fair at the time snapped at that because there was a little room in the it was basically a closed session and we were doing practicing penalties and I can't remember the journalists were two journalists that basically snuck into a little room like a peephole type thing that looked wasn't me but it wasn't you but I can't I will know who it was.

14:56I couldn't believe it really that it had happened. I do remember that now. That's probably a rare incident, but with penalties we tried everything. Actually, somebody told me the other week about what Gareth does. I think Gareth takes three players. It was Anthony Gordon, I think. Someone told me how he does it and he takes three players to a very quiet area of the training ground. They take three penalties each. they do it in a real sort of methodical way quite short but quite sort of concentrated and focused and basically they're told to pick a place where they're going to take a penalty and then they go in so we tried all sorts of different things never quite to that so we had penalty competitions leading up to the tournament which meant whoever won the penalty competition effectively were the best five penalty takers that was Sven in 2006 that I think in Germany because that's how Carragher ended up on the pitch coming on for two or three minutes because he actually won the penalty competition of all these penalties that we would take.

15:56How can Jamie Carragh be taking a penalty in his shoes out? I asked that question myself, you know what I mean? The only thing I will say is John Terry was one of the best penalty takers I've ever seen. Honestly, in training. I went off the pitch in the Champions League final and I'm looking at him because I'd seen him in training with England. I'm watching him walking up and I'm thinking, it's over. Thankfully he slipped.

16:22I practice penalties where I tell the goalkeeper what way I'm going and do it properly, but it does frustrate you when players come up and try and mess around. I say to my players now, if you're practicing, do it properly how you do it in a game. You can do as much practice. What you can't put in place is the stadium, the fans, the pressure of it. Obviously, it's completely different when you're stepping up to what it is on a training pitch. Yeah, and I think when you lose five out of eight tournaments, or you go out of five out of eight tournaments on penalties, it becomes more than just luck.

16:56I recognise now, looking back, we used to go out and think, oh, penalties is a 50-50. It's not. It really isn't. You've got to have really good technical players on the pitch. The work, the detail goes into penalties, taking penalties and the goalkeepers on studies. The market's uncertain. Revenues tied and hiring on hold. That's why results-driven companies are using Upwork to keep work moving. Go to Upwork.com today and start hiring proven freelance talent fast. No bulky overhead. No rigid long-term contracts. Just the right expert right when you need them. Work smarter and faster with Upwork.

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17:48There's so much work that goes into it now.

17:55Niamh, next question. Yeah, for both of you, how many of the current England team would get into the Golden Generation team? I think there's only one of the defence, which would be Kyle Walker, sorry.

18:13Thanks for that. I'd obviously be right centre-back. No, I don't think, for me, I said this last week, I said, for me, none the defenders would, I think, if you look back, you had Rio Fernand, John Terry, Saul Campbell, Ledley King, Cara, Gaz, Ash Cole, for me, none the defenders would, in the attacking areas, I think that's where a few would get in. I think Harry Kane, 100 % would be in, Foden would be in, Bellingham, maybe, So I think, again, the back line wouldn't attack us well. Our problem position actually was left side. Obviously, that's where Paul Scholes ended up. So there's no doubt that one of these players here would end up on our left side.

19:02The balance of our midfield, obviously, with Lampard and Gerrard would probably mean that you'd have to think that Declan Rice would come into that. I mean, Lampard and Gerrard are amazing players. I think Harry Kane, and Michael Owen was a great player, but Harry Kane would start up top with you with respect. Harry Kane would play with you. I said last week, for me, Harry Kane's England's best ever player. So Kane comes in, I think Declan Rice comes in. I think he definitely could put Kyle right back in front of me and legitimately say that he would be better than me there. I think, to be fair, you'd probably argue Jordan with what he's done now at getting goal.

19:42Obviously, J-Mo did well for us, Paul Robinson did well. Oh, no, Pickford, Torrey, would definitely be in there. Pickford, I think, now. And I was... Anti-Pickford's the wrong phrase. I was not convinced by him, I'll be honest with you, three, four years. For me, I played with Jordan at Everton, and my concern was... Seriousness. He gets a bit agitated. Joe Hart was the same. Yeah. Ramsdale's the same. It's a goalkeeper thing, though, isn't it? Yeah, they get a bit agitated, and Jordan was like that. It's composure. I went from playing with Edmund van der Sar, who was the calmest man ever, to Jordan Pickford, who was like...

20:20Yeah. So I was like... I weren't really sure, but then obviously the way his career's gone, he's been brilliant, especially for England. I instinctively was nervous about the fact that I saw him laughing on the pitch as a goalkeeper at times, which I thought... I don't see a goalkeeper laughing. It just lacked seriousness, and I thought actually temperament, composure, and stature probably as well, physical stature was probably... And then when I've seen him, to be fair, in this last three or four years, and actually I don't think I've ever, there's only one goal that I think I've seen him concede in a tournament for England where I thought he should have saved that and you probably might name another.

20:52And it was actually in a game against Belgium. It was a meaningless game, I think, where actually we lost and we ended up getting an easier route through to the semi-final. But I don't think he makes a lot of mistakes for England at all. His kicking's pretty good. I think that he's, I think he's become a big player for England and he's actually surprised me. and he's better for Everton than I thought he would be in the Premier League. So, for me, he's turned it around for me from where I was in my mind. So, Pickford comes in, Walker comes in, Rice comes in, I think Kane comes in, and I would put Foden on the left, to be fair, as well.

21:25I would have Beckham still in the team, I would have, obviously, Wazza still in the team, and I would have Gerrard. I'm not sure just yet I'd have that many in. Five I'd have in. On the topic of former players, I'm always really fascinated by the humanistic side of international major tournaments and something Italy have done, because they've got a really inexperienced side this year, and something that Spalletti's done is he's invited five creative players from over the decades of Italy. Players like Antonioni, Totti, Baggio, players like that. He's invited them along to basically chat with the current lot and it's in the hope of elevating a little bit of spark, a little bit of creativity.

22:07if England were to do that do you think that the culture of England and the way we are it would have the same benefit as it would to a nation like Italy and which players as well? I think Gareth has done that not five players to that extent but I've been in and spoke not this time but spoke with players and I know other former players have been in as well so I think Gareth does that in a different way What is it that you do when you go? Do you just chat with them? Yeah, you can talk about your experiences of the tournament, basically of, obviously, games, they are what they are, but you can talk about how it is around the hotel, how the media works and stuff like that.

22:48You can go back to your experiences of things you felt and try and give the best advice and things, obviously, which maybe you didn't do so well as a player, to try and help them not do that themselves. So just giving them advice you can, really. I think one of the big things for a tournament, particularly if you're going to go to the latter stages, is for young players to preserve their energy emotionally. Because you imagine if you start winning, the build-up of the media attention, the family, the feeling. And young people, 18-, 19-, 20-year-olds, they want to train, but then they want to be playing on their FIFA, then they want to be doing table tennis.

23:26They never stop and they're just constantly, and I always say to young players when I speak to them about a tournament, just remember you will hit a wall at some point. You're talking about that experience in the dressing room, that experience in... That was me in 2004, wasn't it? I remember in 2004, he would literally be on the tennis court, he'd be on the table tennis court, we used to have an arcade type thing, and he was non-stop anyway, that's his sort of nature. I was like, just calm the fuck down, will you? You know what I mean? I'd leave me bedroom at like 7.30 in the morning to have breakfast, then we'd get ready to go training.

24:01I don't think I'd go back to my bedroom till 9.30, 10 o 'clock at night. No. I'd finish training, I'd go get a shower, go for lunch. Like a Duracell bunny. And then I'd be playing snooker, I'd go in the massage room, put a movie on. I just wouldn't go to my room. I just wanted to... And Aldi's used to get pissed off because I'd annoy them. Do you think that needs to be instilled into Bellingham then? Do you think that he needs to be kind of... Because maybe we were talking about that perhaps as a bit of burnout there. He looks switched on, though, and looks quite controlled and calm. But you're right, he will need someone who will just...

24:37He's not got the same personality as you have in terms of how... He was really hyper around the place and was best mates with everybody. Everybody got on with him. So there's a group over there playing FIFA, he'd be in the middle of them. There's a group over there playing snooker. Right, who am I playing? That was him. I'm not sure when I look at Bellingham, he looks to me to be that type. He may be. And if he is, he would need to calm down. because emotionally and mentally is where this... I think what this group now have got is, as I said before, a lot of players around a similar age. So they'll have more in common.

25:08Like, I didn't have anything in common with... Well, still don't. To be honest. With Gaz. So, but the players, different players, I had to go and find out what they liked. Where I think now the players will have a lot in common because they're all around the same age or some age. Do you know what? Back in the day, it wasn't FIFA. It was card schools. Now it's FIFA. And it was actually when we were coaches. I'm really concerned about it, actually. If you stare at a screen for hours, your mind and your head just becomes absolutely sort of like... I don't know how a player that's concentrating on football, that's trying to rest...

25:51I think that's just where you need to be careful now. Honestly, I've got a real fear around young people just generally spending hours on these games. No, but it's not that. It's the stream. I've seen Pickford and Ramsdale were streaming on with some of these streamers last week. One wrong word while you're away with England in that camp, I think they need to be really careful. I'd done it a few weeks ago with a group of lads. I'd just done them messing around for a bit of fun. But if they're away with England and they start doing that and they say the wrong thing at the wrong time... We've got to remember, they're young, they're active, they get bored quickly in a hotel for a month where they can't go out of the hotel grounds because you've got security all around you.

26:31So the card school was back in my day and I thought it was a devastating impact on morale, on mindset. Because obviously, you know, just generally it was just devastating. The lads were just playing all the time. Then you're talking about obviously now FIFA, that's the new sort of, if you like, collective. And it's just because lads are bored, young lads are bored. And I do think there needs to be some sort. But Gareth, I'm sure, will be across it. There does need to be some sort of control over it because that's where you do... These things can have a big impact, I think. Right, Steve, next question.

27:00This is to both of you. Who did you room with for international tournaments and who was the worst roommate in the squad? We didn't have... The only time I roomed was in the States. I was always in my own room. Well, every player was in their own room. It was from my time. You've killed me with this question. That's why.

27:23I famously was rooming in 95, sorry, 96, we were still rooming. So I roomed with Phil, because he was the only United player. Is there anyone that was mad, though? Like, you'd hear something like, oh, he was on the landing at such a clock, or he's sneaked out, or... I roomed with Bex, but then stopped rooming with Bex in 96, when Ibracot brought him to the squad, and I was in the room when he first saw Victoria with the... Say he'll be there. He'd been told that story, so it's not a new one. But then, just incompatible with sleep patterns, because after that, they recognised sleep was important and people having their own space was important.

28:00So at United and with England, we went to individual rooms.

28:07I'm trying to think of sort of like roommates. I remember when I went to DC, I remember the captain at the time, he was captain before I got there. But then the first game, and he took the armband off and gave it to me. So I was in the room, I had to sit down and say to him. Like that? Under your filler? Sorry, mate. You're no longer captain. You had to sleep with one eye out. You had to sleep with one eye out. That was a bit awkward, but... No, yeah, I never roomed. Do you know what? I really would have loved to have room with him. Just to annoy him. That wouldn't have worked, I can assure you.

28:46Flav, next question. In the quarter-final penalty shootout defeat to Portugal in 2004, what number did you put yourself down as, Gary? Number of placement. What number was that? Who was the top? Well, I wasn't in the top five, obviously, then Vassell went, didn't he? I think I was seven or eight, maybe eight, maybe. Wayne, if you wasn't injured, what would you put yourself down as? I always, in shootouts, I liked one number one, but it depends on the players who were there, So I obviously weren't the first choice penalty taker, there was Bex. We're loads, by the way. Mike Lowen. I don't get players who go number five.

29:26I've seen Salah, I think, with Egypt, doing it to try and get the glory of winning the game. I don't get it. It might never get here. So in terms of quality penalty takers, one to five, is that the best way to do it? For me, you'd have your best penalty taker, number one, your second number two and so on where you might never get to number five yeah so it for me it doesn't make sense and if you start well you start your penalty well and they miss you've always got a better chance have you done well in penalty shootouts obviously Italy against Buffon yeah top corner one more question John in the band so yeah obviously we played the music at the England games are there any particular chance you liked you disliked you remembered or if I can broaden it a bit best atmospheres that you've played in I was thinking particularly when I saw it at Shaw I think it was when the stand was actually vibrating and the floodlights were bouncing because the fans were singing so loud it was all shaking best atmosphere I've played in with England definitely was it Algeria definitely that one No, for me, I love the atmosphere.

30:45I'll go back to it, it was obviously my best. But I think in the stadium light in Portugal, for me, it was the best atmosphere for me. I'd probably say that Wembley, Euro 96, Scotland, Holland Games. Yeah, I don't... Is that because we weren't playing then, Gary? Do you get access into every... Will you get access into every stadium? Everyone, yeah, because we've got the caps. Because we've not missed for like 28 years. But in terms of sort of like... If you walk around with a drum, you just get free tickets. No, we don't get free tickets. You wouldn't. We wouldn't. We've done the caps, you know, like the other fans.

31:25So we've got the caps that qualify us for the tickets. So we'd buy them the same as everybody else for the away games and stuff and tournaments and that. But from a point of view of actually, you know, are there some countries that actually sort of stop you playing? Yeah, we had Ukraine, they stopped us and they put us on their news bulletin. So we were live on their news bulletin with translators in areas, in the studio, because they'd stopped us going in the tournament and it was a big national disgrace. So then next time, straight in, no problem. But if you meet the Jobsworth, then you've got a problem.

31:58But we've always got accreditation or, you know, they've cleared it before, wherever we go. You meet the Jobsworth, as you've probably seen yourself. Yeah. Right, paddles. Paddles up. Right. England will win the Euros. Oh, there's a lot of red. There's a lot of red. Steve Clarke has achieved more with Scotland than Gareth Southgate has with England.

32:26You wouldn't see my mouth. I think it's prospective. Harry Kane will win the Golden Boot. 100 % Willie? I hope so Yeah, he's got a chance Have you got a yellow paddle that says I hope so? This will be Gareth Southgate's last tournament as an England manager Always a lot agreeing with that I actually think it could be as well Wazza, where you at with it? I'm pretty sure it will be Right, Scotland will qualify from their group. Oh, mixed bag. Yeah, pretty mixed, I'd say.

33:15Would Wayne Rooney get in this current England side? Ooh, he turned it around quickly. I know. Not as he is.

33:30I don't know, we are fucked if I get in like this. LAUGHTER Can you play a left bike? Scotland have better fans than England.

33:47Fuck off, Red Bag. I think Scotland fans are pretty good, but I think England fans are pretty good. I think both are pretty good, to be fair. That is the end of the Euros debate 2024, and I wish all of you the very best for the summer. And for those of you who go into the tournament, stay safe and have an amazing time. Thank you.