The Manchester Derby Debate Gets HEATED! United v City Predictions | Big Game Preview with Gary Neville

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2:29How are you, sir? You all right, guys? How are you, mate? How are you? See you.

2:32Gary Neville: How are you, mate? You okay? How are you? In the bad things? How are you, mate? You all right? Okay, yeah. Very good. I've got more cue cards than anything I've ever seen in my life. It's going to be a big show.

2:47Gary Neville: Maybe I'll put that over here. All good? Yeah, that bad mate, you? Very good, very good. Do you not fancy the wide leg trousers? No, I'm not brave enough to bring them on in my overlap. I'll get absolutely hammered when I... You know what I mean? Put my leggings back on.

3:08Gary Neville: I thought they were nice. Yeah, it's got your best. Do you know something? There's this guy in London I went shopping, I was down for... What was he down for? What was the first week of the season? Arsenal commentary. Yeah, Friday. So I stayed down on Saturday before I went to Newcastle. I went in this shop and this guy saw it. He said, you can start wearing wider leg pants. What? And I bought three or four. And that was it. How are we talking? No, they're not. A couple of them are wide. How wide were them in comparison to the other ones? What, like boot cuts? The black ones? Yeah, they're like big ones.

3:42Because everything went skinny, didn't it? Yeah. And then obviously... I couldn't buy jeans. Everything was just skinny fit.

3:49Gary Neville: They're all ripped. They've got million holes in them. I don't think you could wear them for a football match, as in watching in the stands. I don't think you could wear them. Wide leg jeans? You'd be bringing the 70s back doing that. City fans can't wear them, can they? I don't think you'd be wearing anything wide leg at the game. I'm not sure about that. My baby, sorry. Right, let's go.

4:18Gary Neville: I just think there'll be that 10 minute period where it'll become ferocious and it'll become that quick and they'll be like, what's going on? I wouldn't swap Kobe main off anybody. You wouldn't swap him for Usman Dembele? Nobody. To me, if he's not a Man United player, I eat my hat. To me, he's just got balls. Last year, it'd have been the end of the world for me if we'd lost that derby, but I want to win the game and I'd definitely not take a draw now. Well, a clean sheet, I'd snap your hand off, to be honest with you. If you go 1-0 down, 2-0 down and the crowd are up for it and Old Travers rocking, your head's feeling hot cannot talk about money mate look at the amount of money United have spent when Pep was there more than City we're not talking about Fergie we're not talking about United right now they do they do sure but they're not scared of the South Stand

5:05Gary Neville: this episode of the Big Game Preview is brought to you by Skyber and I'm joined by Luke Stephen Adam and Harrison and for this programme on Manchester United and Manchester City we needed a neutral facilitator so they invited me along so how are we going lads where are we up to so let's start with United if you don't mind we're at home so that's the only real reason we're going bottom up yeah Harrison Adam going back a week or so the transfer window closed what are your reflections now when you sort of had a bit of time to think about it about how United's window was go on H I think it was the first time we actually got a proper midfield rebuild which I'll give them props for at least doing that and I think United obviously we've struggled to properly control games and take the game to teams.

5:50So I think the idea of having Tielemans, Kobe, Santos and Beléber, for me, was the one that kind of stitched it all together. We had to see what obviously it looks like. But I feel like the other three needed that type of player in there. So I was quite optimistic about it. But then I just thought, I thought it was one of them situations where they've rebuilt the midfield, but then you're missing now. I still think we're so flimsy in defence. I think there's just so many soft spots. It's mostly just when we've got the ball and the ball comes the other way. I just think the speed in the back line is not good enough.

6:22I don't think we've got enough of a large patch of grass to just control games and keep the ball up there. I think on the ball we've probably done quite well in terms of the additions we've made. I think the Labour will do some of the off-ball stuff. But I think it was really worrying that we didn't nail down a left-back this summer. Just a left-back? Left-back and centre-half, I think. I think that's where I'd edge my bets, I think.

6:48Gary Neville: Who would do? Because I think if you're looking at the market and you think of, let's forget, like, say,£100 million signings. I know there haven't been any at centre-back and left-back, but if you just said, OK, we had£50 million or£60 million, what signings have you seen this summer that you wish or think United could have done at centre-back and left-back? I like Jacque. I mean for Liverpool I think he was roughly around the same price and I think that looks like a proper modern centre half a proper ball player imposing lead steps out on the ball very calm in his actions a little bit more composed and I think that's what United need I think all the lads that are in there I think you look at maybe where Maguire's really good in terms of the defending and you know in both boxes and stuff like that and being a little bit more of a leader or whatever commanding back line I think Jacquet would obviously give him the balance I think we've always lacked a genuine partnership in the centre of defence.

7:44I think if you look at all the partnerships that have always come around, gone around, none of them gel well. I couldn't tell you the last time Man United had a proper good centre-half partnership. So centre-half would have been the one for me. I mean, everyone raved about a left-back, but I think it was only really one in there, which was Lewis Hall, which everyone wanted, and we obviously couldn't get that one done. But I think I'll give them credit for sorting out the midfield. that I feel like for me, it was almost the right balance. A bit more of an experienced player, someone who's got a ridiculous amount of minutes in Tielemans, balanced out of a few more younger, more project players to come with Manu.

8:20And I think you've seen a better version of Manu already with Tielemans in there.

8:23Gary Neville: We'll come back to the midfield when we talk about the game. But Adam, where are you at with the transfer window? I pretty much agree with the central midfield. I was delighted that we brought players in there. I know Tielemans and Andre Santos probably weren't our first choice. But you have to be able to manoeuvre in the market and we did it. Balaba was the one I really wanted I wanted him last summer as well last season didn't change my mind on him he's 22 years old you're going to have peaks and troughs in your early stage of your career but we needed a left back and a back up striker centre back I was a little less eager on because I looked at it and I thought we've just bought Lenny Arrell just bought Aiden Heaven you know the lit is there and I keep seeing this thing where it's like we've got the same back line since 2020 I think it is or something crazy like that and then his It's like, you look at, De Ligt's supposed to be in there.

9:11Lissandro Martinez, when fit and available, is a very, very good centre-back. So I don't think the plan has been to stay with that back line. It's just injuries haven't helped, I guess. But I like De Ligt when he's fit. It's just, you know, it's very... Who is that back line?

9:25Gary Neville: When you talk about, I mean, United's back four, the last two games have been probably their best back four that they're going to have available. Unless you bring De Ligt into that. you say Lissandro Martis is a very good centre-back but does do they perform like good centre-backs when they play for Manchester United is what I would ask I think Leitcher does he's just not available all the time which is the which is the problem availability is an ability in and of itself he's just not available I think he's perfect for the way we want to play football taking it out from the back I spoke to Harry Maguire in pre-season and he was like everything's on us taking the ball out from the back now and I kind of thought well that doesn't really suit your game because you do ping great long balls into the flanks but generally speaking coming out with it is nervous then once he gets out because there's big spaces behind him but with the amount we had I knew we were never going to get a centre back we've got five or six there but left back for me I think Luke Shaw's improved in attack and he looks better with Marcus Rashford but defensively if you look at the three goals we conceded against Milan in pre-season one against Hull the first against Ipswich and then Everton where he kind of overcovers I get it he has to go on cover because he's he's been left a little bit in the lurch by the midfield and the centre-backs but he overcovers and he can't get back out to George and we concede and I just think we need someone to play in front of Luke Shaw Are you more confident or less confident after the transfer window that we'll finish in the Champions League places?

11:00Gary Neville: I'm ignoring the title for now I think everyone else combined I mean, we didn't have the privilege of spending, you know,£300 million on a brand new midfield and getting premium. Didn't sell any players really, though, did you? No, of course, but I'm just saying, you look at what Spurs have done in the market, you look at what City have done in the market, we just didn't really have the facilities to do that. It is a big point, the selling part, because obviously, like, Rashford, they wouldn't have expected Rashford to be back. Garty got injured. Garty got injured. They would have expected probably Zerke Z to probably leave for even£10,£15,£20 million.

11:33Gary Neville: So they were expected to bring in probably that 50, 60 million, wouldn't they? They didn't bring any of that money in. But then they've got to be more proactive in the market in trying to sell players. It's like, it feels like we're too nice with Xerxes. I like him as a footballer, but I see he's not suited to the Premier League. Yeah. But he felt like, we don't mind keeping him around. He's kind of OK and he's a good lad. It's like, if you go out from the start of the window and say, this guy's up for sale, I know it decreases the value a bit, but you get a buyer for them and you get them off the books and you can bring someone in and we just...

12:03Do you know, I think the stocks kind of get too low because you look at like Reinders, Nico Gonzalez at City. They've been at City like a year or two each. And they've won trophies. They've won trophies. They've not been like terrible signings, but they've gone now. If you let them hang about for two, three more years, same with Marmoush, Savinho. If you let them hang around and then the sort of stock drops, you don't get any money from them. That's United's problem, I think. I think as well with Zerky, he's not a Premier League player really. And the money is outside in the Premier League these days, isn't it?

12:28Like people spend 50, 60 million in the Premier League. but if you want an Italian side to come in and get Zerky, no-one's going to spend that money. It's going to be a few million or a loan or whatever. That's the issue. I think a lot of the United players, they're not demanding big fees because there's no success attached to them, which I think is going to be difficult for you guys.

12:46Gary Neville: The Big Game Preview is brought to you by Skybet. Let's go to City just on the transfer window. We were sat in actually in here about maybe three or four weeks ago now and I think it was at a point where you hadn't signed, so you certainly hadn't signed Enzo Fernandes and you hadn't signed Bawadi. I'm trying to think of his name. Ben? Ndi. Ndi, you hadn't signed Ndi. So we were sat there thinking, oh, City could be in a little bit of bother. In fact, they look like they're struggling right now if they don't get, obviously, a couple of midfielders. You just sold Rodri, actually, I think, a few days before and I was like, I just don't get that one at all when you're trying to embed a new manager.

13:20Gary Neville: Where are you at with your transfer window? I thought it was pretty good. I thought it took a while. There's a lot of question marks because we got a vaguely new director of football, or Hugo Villarano, City fans saying, what's he got for us, basically? And it took a bit of time, but we got the deals done. I think the Enzo Fernandes one seemed to me like it was always going to happen late on. When it was left so late, people were saying, is it going to fall through? And the Chelsea thing kind of nearly messed us up as well with them, you know, lacking that sign at the end. But I think Anderson, by the way, has been unbelievable so far.

13:50I think we've had a couple of games, maybe not on TV as well, but I thought that game last weekend, he was man of the match against Coventry. He was so good. The way he just cuts up the play as well, Definitely like that. And then I think Enzo Fernandes got a bit of a mean streak. Buadi as well, age 18. He's come in in the Champions League and was one of our best players midweek. So I thought some of the signings in the midfield have been class.

14:10Gary Neville: I think there's a quote from you that someone put to me before that you said that you thought initially Anderson was expensive or seemed expensive, but you feel like it's a bargain. Yeah, I think essentially, I mean, there's no way to ever look at£160 million and go, oh, it's a good one. Let him go, wow, what a deal. But you know he's good beforehand, but I think he's one of those players that the more you watch him, you have to realise just how good he is. He can do everything. And when you're watching City and you're playing Forest, you're not fully paying attention to an opposition player. And I've been remarkably impressed by him.

14:43And it's not just because of his abilities, it's his responsibility too. You obviously play with world-class players. You know what it's like when you've got a player who wants the ball, who wants to take control of the game. And I'm incredibly excited by the transfer window because talking midfield rebuilds, and we needed that. We lost Bernardo Silva, obviously Rodri in the summer, before that De Bruyne, Gundogan, it's like legends of the game. And Gonzalez now as well. Exactly, yeah. Nico Reinders have moved on as well. And for a long time we've tried to rebuild the midfield. We bought a bunch of plays.

15:11Calvin Phillips many years ago, Nunes became a right back. Kovacic came in as a squad player, a really good player, but not a nailed on starter. And I've been waiting to see the surefire signings in midfield for a while. Reinders and Marmuch, good players, sorry, not Marmuch, Nico Gonzalez. but when I watch these three that we've signed they all have that maturity where they feel that they want the ball like Buadi, Anderson, Enzo Fernandes you look at them and immediately I'm genuinely excited because oh they have that quality where you can see that they are players that will get the ball in any position brave positions and take it Enzo Fernandes already could have had a few assists already and he gets that ball on the right hand side channel where De Bruyne are occupied or the assist for Haaland the other day in the Champions League the classic David Silva bit where he's sort of left inside of the area and he's just taking chances and he's keeping the ball really nicely and Bouadi I think he had the highest percentage of any player in the Champions League this game week which is ridiculous for an 18 year old and Anderson the thing is well I think every time he gets it Bouadi the guy behind me at the game said every time he gets it he looks like he actually wants to do something sometimes he plays a little bit I don't know what the word I thought he was very sideways in the World Cup in the World Cup yeah I mean maybe he's playing there in a Morocco team where it's a little bit harder to count can I ask you about Well, you talk about midfield rebuild.

16:27I've been thinking about this, especially when you signed Enzo Fernandes. So what do you think is your best midfield on paper currently? It is hard. I mean, some people would just throw those three in. Yeah. So if it's them three in there, three new ones, who plays on the right? Well, then you could put Cherky there, Flood in there. It's hard. I'd personally like to see Cherky in that midfield. So the follow-up to the question is, this is, for me, I think, I know you don't like this but the Foden I think Foden could be out of it this year I really do I really do He's played well so far He's a squad essentially No I know I just I look at what you're recruiting for got two two players who could play deep Cherky Enzo Fernandes best as tens best behind the number nine Foden doesn't in my opinion not really a right-sided player not really a right-wing go If you look at what we lost though if you look at what we lost we've lost Savino, Marmouche they could both play wide.

17:23So I think Foden can definitely be used out there. Do you think that's where he works best for City? Obviously his best season wasn't necessarily there, but I think the way Mareska plays with his wide plays is a bit different to Pep. He likes him quite direct. Foden's got that ability on the ball. Maybe he's going to be used a little bit more out wide. I'm not bothered. I mean, the nicest possible way. He's been on the pitch so far and he's contributing. The whole squad right now is stronger than last season. And I want to see players come on and contribute. When I think about all the in-game management so far for Mareska, The subs are coming on and working.

17:53Foden's starting. Palace, Paul, first half. Second half, two assists. Really good in the first half of Paul the other day. Foden is talented. Really talented, as we all know that. And if he's focused and happy, he'll play good football. And at some point, you might be on the bench for a few games. But sometimes, someone's got to get injured or suspended. He'll have a run of form that's good. Right now, I see a bunch of players that are useful. All of them. And last season, there was times where we got to December and we had multiple players that injured. We had 13, 14 senior players on the bench.

18:20which was a bunch of kids that were never going to get used. Or Pep would have given up on a few players because they weren't quite good. They had to bring Max Elayne back in and stuff like that. And right now... Quite desperate, really, isn't it? I don't know what Besson Field is, but I love it. I really genuinely like it because there's options and that is what we've lacked over the past couple of years.

18:36Gary Neville: I think... I'm not going to say it's the ultimate test because I don't think Manchester United are the best team in the league, but I do think Manchester United have got everything to cause your midfield problems on counter-attacks and your defence problems on counter-attacks on Sunday. Is it an acid test for this new midfield? Because you've obviously played games so far that have been maybe, you could argue, a little bit friendly in some ways. Going away to United, historically, even if City were absolutely fantastic, you could get a tough game there. And last season, to be fair, Michael Carrick's first game, United were excellent.

19:07Gary Neville: Can Fernandes, Anderson stop the counter-attack on Sunday? Because United probably will get pushed into a little bit more of a deep shape and United's strength is those three or four players that can spring from it. Is this a massive test for Fernandes and for Anderson on Sunday? To be able to cover the ground and do what Rod used to do? It's a big game, it's a derby game as well. I think Anderson is going to be very key to that. Like I said, the amount of times you just, a little cheap interception, you think, what would have happened if he hadn't got that ball there? I think he's so good at cutting up the play.

19:35I think, like you said, it's a big game. Acid test maybe is the right term. Last year we had a pretty bad start, to be honest. And then we played you and we kicked on from that point. We played you at the Etihad. I think this season, because we've had such a good start, I was quite happy to just write off the Community Shield at the time. There were so many people questioning City, saying it could be the end of an era and stuff, based on it, essentially. You want to win the Community Shield if you can, but it's essentially just the end of pre-season, really. We've won our first four games, so United's start isn't quite as good.

20:04You're obviously going to be up for it. It's a derby game. I always think a derby is going to test a team's minerals, and especially going to Old Trafford, where we struggled last year, the year before we drew. I think it's a massive game, yeah. I feel like I'm with this one. So it's an acid test in the sense of where the team is now, but the true acid test will be in 30 games from now when these players are embedded. Elliot Anderson and Enzo Fernandes have started once alongside each other. The other day, it was Enzo and Bawadi in the Champions League once alongside each other. Those two have been together for two weeks at the team.

20:33So I'm not going to look at this game and judge this team on that because it's just not fair. They've only just walked through the door. Having said that, it's a derby. and it's absolutely a kind of game where if you're going to spend £300 million from midfielders, you want them to be up for games like this. You want them to win. So I expect them to play well. I don't expect it to be perfect. I don't expect the structure to be great, but I expect them to play well, if that makes sense, because you buy them for this kind of occasion. You know, Enzo Fernandes has been brought in because in Maresca's terms, he's a winner.

21:01And this is, you know, this is the kind of game I expect him to be up for. He's won the World Cup and been brilliant for Argentina and all that. So he understands pressure. and Elliot Anderson looks unfazed by anything and Bwadi 18 years old you know 17 year old when he was 17 on his birthday he beat Real Madrid with Lille 1-0 so he's not going to be scared by it I don't know if he'll have enough yet on the counter hopefully Gai Kusunov Do you think he'll play on Sunday Bwadi? I think it will be Enzo Fernandes

21:25Gary Neville: I think Niko O 'Reilly could play in midfield because he's not been fit lately He'd be a bit more solid you mean I just think he actually made his debut against United a couple of years ago in the Community Shield in midfield and then obviously yeah he's been unfit lately the last couple of games. I think he's shaking on the bench. Yeah, whether he'll be back or not, I'm not sure. I hope, and look, I hope for a number of reasons, one, I want to watch a good game, but I hope from a United perspective that City do play Enzo Fernandes and Anderson in midfield. And it'll be interesting to see how they do from a discipline perspective.

21:56You've gone man-to-man all over the midfield. And even though I watched the Porto game, and honestly, I think he's took Guardiola's model and just made it even more keep the ball. And I think you keep the ball more than ever. The possession stats have been insane. Covington was 81%. It's ridiculous. And to be fair, it's like as much as you having the ball, it's like defending with the ball. And that's what obviously you are doing. But I think when the ball comes the other way, he puts Anderson on his own in front of that three. And I think there's a lot of space around him. And you're very narrow.

22:30I mean, the Bournemouth goal that they scored against you, your back three are literally holding hands on the edge of the box. Yeah, that was really poor shape, that.

22:38Gary Neville: You're not going to control Enzo because Enzo's strength, actually, his ability to be actually going, doing it. But whereas City, I always think, have been quite a structured, disciplined team and built on that. And it's obviously brought you great success. This is very different in terms of he is a bit of a wanderer. He is a wanderer. And I'm not sure even Anderson's got the level of discipline of a Rodri either. I think even he sometimes will go and sort of press to his side. Moving on from City's midfield, just quick. What about United's midfield? I know we've signed players in midfield, but I'm not sat here yet looking at sort of Tielemans and Manu or Santos and Manu or Santos and Tielemans thinking, OK, we're all right.

23:15Gary Neville: I'm still looking at it thinking that we're searching definitely for the answer still of what's going to happen. And will it end up being a three? Will it end up being that Beliba, Fernandes and Manu or Beliba, Fernandes and Tielemans? I think if it's a three, probably games without Bruno Fernandes because he needs to be a bit higher up the pitch, doesn't he? I think eventually the main two, or in big games, will be Balaba and Maino. I just think Maino is the first name on the team sheet after Bruno Fernandes. I think he's unbelievable. Obviously, Elliot Anderson and Enzo Fernandes are fantastic talents.

23:50But when you look at their price, I just kind of imagine what would Kabir Maino cost if that's what midfielders are going for. You think Kabir Maino is better than Elliot Anderson and Enzo Fernandes? I think he's got such good ability. Elliot Anderson is a different profile of midfielder, right? I think him and Maino would make a great partnership. But in terms of the footballing ability of Kobe Maino, I don't think there's many talents close to him. If you put Maino in that City team, I think you'd see the same value of player, if not more, I think so. I'm not sure about that. I think he's always been more of a City player, the way he plays.

24:21He's always been more of a City player.

24:22Gary Neville: Who are we, so, just to be clear? I think it would be for Labour, Maino. Before the lads debate whether Kobe Maino's better, who is he better than? Anderson or Fennessey? Obviously, Elliot Anderson, in what he does, Maino can't do that. but as a midfielder the ability that he's got he's adding a defensive You wouldn't swap Elliot Anderson I wouldn't swap Kobe Mane off anybody You wouldn't swap Kobe Mane for Elliot Anderson or Ends of Manus You wouldn't swap Kobe Mane for anybody in World Football You wouldn't swap for Usman Dembele Nobody That plays in midfield That plays in midfield I wouldn't swap I wouldn't swap anybody for him Okay I'm not sure if I'm that He's such a great talent He's a great player and people forget what he's done as well You see his performance in the cup final You see his performance in the Euros roles for England and all that.

25:05He's so ahead of his time in terms of his maturity and his composure on the ball. His ability in tight space is incredible. Defensively, he's adding it to his game. I think Kaby Meno deserves the flowers, man.

25:16Gary Neville: How do you feel about in Gary, Kaby Meno? He's a very good football player. I must admit, when I saw him playing with Casemiro last season, I thought, OK, they were in sync with each other. They understood each other. There was a level of thinking. I think Kaby Meno right now, when I'm watching him, I think he's doing well but I still don't think the right person's alongside him I don't see for instance he was better with Casemiro I think last season Casemiro obviously his legs have gone a little bit but just Casemiro you can tell had been an incredible world class player them two the way we used to play with each other pass with each other combine with each other for me I thought okay he's a top player he is a top player but I'm not sure now when I watch him and I watch United particularly the defensive side of things that I'm seeing him with Tielemans and thinking okay that looks right and I'm not when he played with Santos I thought not sure that looks right yet so I think he still needs the partner and I do think it comes I do think it happens that you know if you put Roy Keane with Juan Sebastian Varon didn't quite ever work that well and they were both like amazing players if you put Roy Keane with Paul Scholes it was amazing just that sometimes if you don't have the right partner sometimes it can just not look right so I think Cobb's question is what is what's he going to be for United this year?

26:35Gary Neville: Is he going to be more of a holding, disciplined player? Or if Balaba comes in, is he going to be one that goes forward a little bit more? So I think there's still question marks over him because he's young and he's still not sort of developed properly. But he's an excellent player. He's an excellent player. Surely he'd swap him for some players. I genuinely wouldn't. I was thinking about it the other day. I get that, you're United. I wouldn't swap for Enzo Fernandez, to be fair. I wouldn't. Because for me, Enzo Fernandez is a world player. I get that as a United fan. I love Enzo Fernandez. as anyone as anyone in Tom Fernandes that challenge I know but I mean it's like there's more of an affinity of course there is as he's one of your guys and like no I don't think it's not just that it's how good he is like his performances in the big games when we got into River when Carrick come in I think the stretch of and people always go it's one game a week it's one game a week that stretch of games that he had I mean you see you see Pundit's going like I'm not really I'm not really sure if it's the midfield right that stretch of games after Carrick come in he was literally our best player behind Bruno and it was so it was so clear how good he was.

27:32Every midfield, he ran, he played big games away, big games at home, scored goals in games, obviously FA Cup final goals, obviously proven that he can do stuff in the opposition's box. I think what he's doing, I think you're still, you're still yet to see, as Gary was saying, you're still yet to see the final product of him because he's not got the partner. That's why Belayb was such a big signing for me because I think you've still not seen the Cobie Mania that scored that wonderful goal at Molyneux, the Cobie Mania. What was going on and why wasn't he playing? I still don't get why.

28:00Gary Neville: If it's that good, I don't get how he made a massive... I mean, Rumi Dameron made obviously some mistakes. That's why he's not here anymore. But that was his probably biggest error. When he said, and we had a massive argument over there about it, when he said basically that it's either him or Bruno... Yeah, that did make sense. And he only plays two in midfield. He'd effectively say that you were never playing because Bruno plays every single week. No one's going to play in front of Bruno. So he effectively killed him on the week before the transfer deadline closed last year and then that's when he asked to move.

28:28Gary Neville: He asked for a transfer, didn't he? Or a loan. He played up front in Europa League. He probably played in midfield. What I'm hoping for is, to be fair, what you're talking about here, we're not going to decide who the best midfielder is on Sunday because it's one game. But to see Elliot Anderson and Enzo Fernandes versus Kobe Maynou, and it'll probably be Telemans, I would imagine. He's trying to go for the PSG style. Yeah, it will be very interesting that. It would make sense to me if Nico O 'Reilly came in alongside Anderson. But that tells you, if he brings Nico O 'Reilly in alongside Anderson, that tells you he doesn't trust Enzo Fernandes and Lonson.

29:01I'm not sure he doesn't trust. No, no, no, it is.

29:03Gary Neville: It's an early warning that he doesn't quite like the idea of Manchester United's counter. He thinks that basically that Enzo Fernandes won't be able to stop. But is he saying that or is he saying there's a risk, so it's a derby game, I'm not going to risk? It's the same thing, isn't it? So it doesn't make him better off the ball, though. Because what I'm saying is if he's 20 games in and he's seen it before and then he went, oh, I'm not sure about that, I can agree with you. If our manager in Europe went and played Ronnie Jonson in midfield with Roy Keane, which he did actually, I think, in Inter Milan in 99 he was pretty much saying he moved Paul Scholes to a different position moving forward on he's pretty much saying I don't want Paul Scholes to be you know in the San Siro he's pretty much saying he is I'd agree with you if it was 30 games in 20 games in but they played with each other once so I'm more thinking it's a derby game you've just got to be a bit careful you're going to play with what you know a little bit more but he's 125 million he's 125 million but it's two games in you can't trust any partnership yet you've seen the player already so it's not like he's going to be it's not like he's going to miraculously improve he's talked about everyone needing a partner he hasn't got a partner in City yet he's bought two midfielders he hasn't got a partner yet he's not played together but they surely are the partner what I would say is City are going to play at Anfield they're going to play at Stamford Bridge they're going to play at Old Trafford they're going to play in the big European stadiums like Bernabéu and sort of Nou Camp if you can't play them together right if you can't play them together you know you've got a 250 million pound two midfield players it is a problem I think they can play together I just think if I see the line however it is I don't think we can say for sure oh he doesn't trust this he does trust that just because it's three games in or whatever four games in you see what I mean say in 20 games 30 games time what do you think the midfield will be I think that will be the midfield so you think it will be Enzo Anderson and who else Cherky Bouadi maybe Enzo plays in front I'm not because I Cherky Enzo Anderson if I was in your shoes I think that's got so many holes in it off the ball.

30:59If the ball comes back the other way. We've already seen it. We've already seen it this season.

31:05Gary Neville: Who do you hope plays? You're the Manchester City manager, both of you. And you'll come to United because we've got our flaws as well, don't we? I'm about to say, yeah. We're just punching early. We're just gassing out a little bit. We've got you on the bank and thought it was us keep going. We're still in on the camera. You're the Manchester City manager. You're Maresca on Sunday, both of you who are you playing in midfield that makes you feel like you've got the best chance of winning that match I'm not starting Buadi personally yeah I'm not starting Buadi no I don't think any of us would I think it does sort of force our hand a bit that Nico O 'Reilly's not been fit last couple of games I would have liked to see him in anyway because I think this season in particular he's more of a midfield option we've got Gvardhiel obviously Aiton or it left back he's a big game as well Nico O 'Reilly he's got that mentality so you're playing Nico O 'Reilly and Alisson But the thing is, because Nico O 'Reilly's not played, I think I'd probably put Enzo and Anderson in there.

32:01He's going to play. I think he's going to play Enzo and Anderson. And I think he should do. I think he should play them.

32:05Gary Neville: He has to test them. It'll make the best game. If those two play midfield, I think the way United are, I think it'll just make the best game. I think there'll be goals. I think there'll be end-to-end elements to it. I think United will get some joy. I think obviously City will get some joy as well. But for me, that's what I would do. United, I think we would play Telemans and Manu, wouldn't we? I wouldn't be surprised to see Santos come in. Because he did rely on him a lot. Instead of who? Instead of Telemans, would you? I wouldn't be surprised. Because he's a bit more energy, a bit more destructive.

32:33Because he sits there between the centre-backs a little bit more, doesn't he? And then you can guard against City's attack with him there. But I think it will be Telemans and Maino and we'll try and control possession of the ball. And you look at the game we played for Carrick's first game. I know it was under Pep, so it was different. Could have been six. I think we had the ball in the back of the net five or six times. I know a couple of them were offside but we did play really really well we dominated possession and we looked different sides we should have battled it was a bloodbath you were by far the better team but it was 2-0 do you know what I mean I thought it was 3 it could have been this it could have been 10 I'm talking about expecting goals were 6-1 XG mentioned we're talking a lot about City's weaknesses here but I've just watched you and that we got loads we got loads in Vasset you're like whole City We're not talking about that.

33:23We're talking about... Okay, let's talk about that. You have to get the ball off us first.

33:29Gary Neville: That is, I think, the slight worry. Although I do think this game suits United better than, believe it or not, the previous ones, which is daft to say because we're playing against a better team. But when I've watched the last two matches and I've seen the Lahmans, Dalot, Shaw, Maguire, Martinez, Telemans and Maynou, and then obviously the front four, Rashford, and Burmo, Kunia and Fernandes. To me, that is Manchester United's best 11. Now, you might argue that you could bring Cescou in and you could put Kunia. Yeah, Kunia's not in the best 11. I love Kunia. So do I. I love Kunia. To me, if he's not a Man United player, he's just got balls.

34:10Gary Neville: He just takes the ball. He might give it away. He might even get it taken off him quite a lot, but he keeps going. I just think with the way we're playing at the moment, form will change things. Who would you change? Rashford has to be on the left at the moment. I think he's been our best attacking player and I'll get Sesko through the middle. You would put Sesko in front? I think Sesko's really good. What I'm saying is our best team is available, isn't it? You know what I mean? So Michael's decided... Apart from Belayba, yeah. Yeah, Michael's decided that actually... And I think he's decided since he's come in that he likes Kunja up front rather than Sesko.

34:42Gary Neville: I don't think he did. You know what I think happened? I think in pre-season we were doing Mboumol through the middle, Kunja, Dorgou, Rashford on the left and Ahmad on the right. and then when Ahmad got injured he was forced to then bring in Buma on the right and play Cunha a bit early. He didn't really play Sesko that much last season. I think he had injury issues throughout and then the back end of the season I think he had 11 and 15. Do you think Sesko will play Sunday? No, I don't think so. I hope so. I don't think he will. Actually, I'd go as far as to say I don't think he should. For the thing that I think we could hurt City with, I think it comes playing someone who's going to drop off the line.

35:18That's what I think. This is the way we beat them last time.

35:21Gary Neville: Yeah, I must admit, I see it as our best team, having Kunja, Bruno, Rashford and then Burma. I do see that as an amazing... I think it's a great front four. He started the season a bit slowly, Kunja, as well. His touch looks a little bit heavy. I think, obviously, he was one of those late returners from the World Cup, so you have to take that into consideration. But I like Kunja. I just think at the moment, he's not probably in our first lap. But I kind of agree with you. Styles make games right, and you probably go with Cunha and Bumor, Rashford and try and... I want Cesc going long term. I feel like when we play, it's so annoying because you play a deep-sitting defence and then you go, we've got Bumor, Cunha up there and they're just nowhere near as imposing.

35:59And it's so annoying because when we played Everton and they sit off a little bit more and there's a bit less space between players and you fire it into Cunha, like 50 % of the time the ball just bounces off him. But then if it's a massive bit of grass and he can actually take a bit of a loose touch but then once he gets going with the ball, he's off. Is this his first touch for the penalty? It's really frustrating because it's just like, it's so annoying because you think he could be so good. But then when the space isn't there, he just looks so much different.

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39:42Gary Neville: How do, I was Michael, but how do we, Manchester United, stop conceding goals? If we're going to play that from, because the only thing that I can see happening eventually, being honest with you is that ultimately we'll have to drop one of that front four and that we'll end up having to play three in midfield and be a lot more sort of what it could end up being Tielemans, Belieber and Manu and be a bit almost add an extra midfield player in now that means that sometimes Bruno then has to go to a side which I know has happened before not ideal because I think he's better in that number 10 spot but how do we without changing shape become more solid so we don't concede goals because we're conceding goals every single game if I knew that I'd probably be working at Manchester United but it's a difficult one I think But what do we do?

40:26Gary Neville: We can't just sit as a coach you can't just sit there so I'm looking at Liverpool now and I'm seeing the full-backs conceding goals for them all the time last night even Kerkhez didn't step on the goal he's giving the goal away every single week you can't just keep going oh it'll be alright it won't be alright so what do we do or what does Michael do to stop the flood of goals because if we carry conceding goals like we are we won't be in the Champions League we have to stop conceding goals. Adam referenced before, I know it's a pre-season game, but that AC Milan game, unironically, Ruben Amrim exposed everything about what we were struggling to do.

41:01And it was really apparent in all of their goals, there was a genuine pattern that they picked out, which was, this season, United want to win the ball back higher. They want to have more at the ball. And they've said that themselves. So we're trying to press from the front. But then when that front four is passed around, which City will have the chance to do on Sunday, when that first line's beaten, you've got Kobe and Seleman's there who are shuttling massive, massive gaps behind the wingers and then they're spinning in behind the back four who are a bit higher and then they just get so many chances just by pulling the centre-halves and just running in behind and it happens all the time but then you come back to it and you go, alright, so in that case let's sit in, let's sit in, let's soak up pressure but then you get games like Brentford and Leeds at home last season where they're having 60-70 % of possession against you and then you're under the cosh.

41:49I wouldn't be worried though

41:50Gary Neville: if they had 70 % possession on Sunday. Oh, no, that's what I'm saying. For this... The blueprint for a United win is City have 70 % of the ball and you sort of do his two-one. Ration scores on the counter, yeah. Although he was very different in the home game last season. I think that was a bit of a strange period. I mean, three days later, we went to Bodo and got completely... That was a weird spell, wasn't it? Last season, I think, ultimately the reason we didn't win the league is we had a very good month, won every game, and then we had a very bad month. And it was that pattern throughout the season, just pure inconsistency.

42:19Do you ever think that United are ever going to take the game to City the way they do? I just never I can't vision I can't vision United I don't think that respect genuinely I just don't think the qualities I don't think I'd want to I don't think I'd want to dominate the game

42:36Gary Neville: I just think I generally believe I don't believe we were a possession team but we weren't but I generally believe what we do is we go for 5-10 minutes and I expect on Sunday United will go for them 5-10 minutes And then you might end up with City having possession for 15 minutes and it might be that we're sat back. And then you'll get a corner or there'll be a bad tackle by a City player and then you'll be up again for five minutes. I don't mind games where you're sort of having it in periods, where you're having five-minute spells and you're going for them and then you're having to take your foot off the gas.

43:05Gary Neville: I don't mind that if we're in control of it and we know what we're doing when we're doing it. But how do we stop conceding the goals? I think we have to start trusting more in Aidan Hebbin and Lenny Orell. I genuinely believe that. Now, that's not a solution in and of itself. But I've seen that a lot this week. You're talking about putting them both in. Not both of them in. At least one of them, right? I just think they're that good. No one can run. I think Aidan Heaven showed that he's a decent player last season. I think Lenny Arro has got ability and will continue to hopefully fulfil that potential.

43:41But I just think Harry Maguire, right? His contract expires next summer, if I'm correct. he's not going to get a renewal. We have to start looking forward to what the future is going to be. And if this season is one of those we're right enough and we're like, we're not going to challenge for the league, hopefully it's just Champions League, then you have to try and use these players. We bought Lenny Yarrow for£50 million. Use him. And I think we saw in times, again, I know it's only pre-season, but we saw in pre-season where he was looking quite good at times. He was looking composed, he was looking calm.

44:10Aidan Heaven as well. And then I think Aidan Heaven against Oli McBurnie was just a disaster. It was a real disaster for him and he got a real lesson in old school centre forwards and stuff. But that shouldn't mean we don't play him anymore. We kind of go away from using him. I think they're both very good young centre-backs and I think get them in there alongside one of those others in there, who would probably be Lissandro for me at the moment. It's a massive season for Joró.

44:35Gary Neville: Do you feel that, going off what Adam's just said, Harrison, that Lissandro Martinez and Lenny Joró would improve the situation? No, I don't think so. I think it's a fundamental weakness that United just... It's the gelling... I don't even think we've ever seen that part of the show. I can't even tell you. That's the problem with your defender. Who's your quickest defender? Probably Euro. I think that's one thing. The problem with Euro is you can't, for example, he's poor in the air. Yeah. Look at Kuzinov and New Orleans. Two of the fastest players in the league. And then you've got Maguire, who's really good in the air.

45:13You've got to have Maguire or someone like that but he can't run do you know what I mean he's good on the ball but he can't run he can't turn but then you can't have a high line as well that's what I'm saying yeah we're more direct we're more direct we'll definitely go and take a look especially the wingers two banks of four you just fall into that you fall into that trap of teams coming to Old Trafford having the ball in front of you because we allowed Hull to play to their strengths and the game against Everton I generally thought we were quite good in the game for an away fixture against Everton which is generally difficult But in the last 15 minutes, our game management was bizarre.

45:48And I know I've kind of said play Lediaro here. There's a moment where he's running down a right and he tries this crazy pass through the middle when he could just give it to Mbumo. We get it on the left and Bruno's swinging in crosses and you're like, take a touch, calm down. Is that United, in a sense, sort of being victims of the mild success last season? Carrick comes in. I didn't think he had anything to lose. I remember you and a number of others saying, sort of, don't give him the job kind of thing, potentially. He does very well. He comes third. how's he going to fare when you've started the season four points from three against that opposition you'd probably look for a bit more

46:19Gary Neville: no you're right if we were to lose on Sunday I think it would bring quite a bit of pressure because that would be four points from four would United take a point is a point you wouldn't take a point I think that's a fixture I think we've won three out of the last four you've also won about three out of the last four sorry you've only won one of the last four yeah I mean there was the draw there was the 3-0 you've won the one at the Etihad I think we've just This is a game on the calendar for me that's just like, we win. We just have to win. I think it's the most fitting way. The best United, the most effective United is against a team who wants to come to Australia.

46:53What I always find though is United, when you don't expect them to beat City at all, turn up. When United are feeling like we might have this, it goes out the window. That's weirdly how it works, I think.

47:04Gary Neville: It's usually around a manager sacking as well. Is that a feeling before this game that United... What I believe is... I think United are going to win not through the fact that I'm a United fan. No, because I look at I think this is quite I do think I'm ready for No, and to be fair by the way I'm wrong every week about a lot of things. Go the other way, Gary. No, I think United are going to win but if you said to me what's the score going to be I would say 2-1 to Manchester United because if I look at Sunday I don't understand for what it's like. It's a new City team and a few of them won't have gone there before in this type of fixture and to be fair Benjani hadn't been to United, though, before.

47:41Gary Neville: You know what I mean? Did Eli Anderson score against you guys last season? But do you know something? I always say... Yeah, he did. Eli Anderson. Liverpool, back in the day, the Anfield. When City go to Anfield, I just think... I think Liverpool will probably win. I think the Liverpool one is a strange one, though, I think. I think it also works the same way. Not now about club, though. When Liverpool come to City, it's very rare. I think United's a bit like that in the sense that on Sunday, I just wonder... I think City have got a very good squad, but you've actually lost a lot of leadership.

48:09Gary Neville: and experience you've lost a lot and I do think that sometimes United's that ground like Anfield and sometimes City can do it to you it can just eat you up in 10 minutes it can just eat you alive and I do believe there'll be a period on Sunday I think where City will probably be the better team for quite a large part of the game but I just think there'll be that 10 minute period where it'll become ferocious and it'll become that quick and they'll be like what's going on that's what we're probably relying upon on Sunday that moment that 5-10 minutes where it just becomes and the ground eats you up I think that's why it's important, the team we actually pick, because your Foden's, your Haarland's get a lot of joy against United.

48:44You'd probably want both of them. This game's on Haarland. Nick O 'Reilly knows what it's about. You'd want him in. And I think you've got to bring a derby sometimes back to basics a little bit more than the tactical stuff, which players, like I said, when that moment comes, tactics are probably going to get you nowhere. Who's in that team that can deal with that? And I think that's some of the players that you want in there. This game, from our perspective, I think it honestly rests on Haarland's shoulders. Not entirely, but he's one of the leaders now. And we've watched him behind the scenes.

49:08and using all the City content and stuff. He's one of the captains, he's leading the team. And I think in the absence of Rodri and Bernardo Silva, he's massively stepped up into one of the leading roles of this side. And obviously, you know, he's got the City connections since he was a kid. He cares about this club deeply. He's signed a pushing 10-year contract. He's going to be really up for this game. And this season, he's had a lot of chances because we're playing. The Winkers are just whipping the ball in really aggressively. And you know what's mad? I don't even think he's been that good to his fans.

49:35He scored five in four. I think the game wrestling if he takes his chances he's going to get three chances he's going to whether he scores none or three or one or two I guess we've got some

49:47Gary Neville: managers then we've got some hot takes just quickly going back to Lenny Oro one thing we've got to stop bringing him on at right back because one thing I can absolutely be sure of is he's not a right back he doesn't know the position that only happens Gary wants his job back here I think we brought him on what was really bizarre for me last week Luke Shaw came off with I don't know you'll probably know better than me he came up Masraou yeah Masraou he came on that left back but then Lenny Jorow came on for Dalot and then obviously that last goal for me look I think that Dogu running up the pitch to be fair is a mistake Santos not getting across is a mistake but then Lenny Jorow not getting out from right back to get out to sort of that area where Grealish is to me I don't think he understands right back which is to be fair that's fine a lot of centre backs don't understand right back but we've got to stop bringing him on there and thinking he's a right back and my feeling is right now is that Michael maybe sees him as a more defensive right back which is what Liverpool who did with the boy last night when they've obviously had problems with Frimpon.

50:40Gary Neville: But anyway, the managers, just quickly, quick take on the managers. Mureska. I think he's had a very good start. I think post-Pep, you're looking at somebody that's going to come in and be steady. Get rid of the community shield, he's won four out of four. So as far as I'm concerned, first game a little bit shaky against Bournemouth, wasn't it? Coventry. We get it done. Coventry, I think we had a lot of chances in that game. We had a lot of chances. It wasn't vintage by any means, but we won the game ultimately. Do you like his, I'm sounding a bit do you like his vibe I think I like him I like him no sometimes you judge managers don't you his interviews what he says what he's like on the touchline what I like about him he always says the word Chelsea does he he did say the word he was asked by I do like him he was asked if they're a big club Chelsea Chelsea are a big club and City are a big club you batted off I work around the club quite a lot at the moment and the staff he's wrong on both by the way it's just the last 20 years for that I work around the City staff a lot and they really like him.

51:37The vibe has changed at City where Pep was very stringent. No cakes, no desserts at the train. He's quite down with it. He's very relaxed. This is the whole boys, no ketchup thing. Only blue ketchup at our ground. But essentially... No one wears red. But essentially they like him because he's laid back and he's fun and obviously he's intense, he's qualified, he understands the players. But what I like as well, there's been some really interesting little man management thing. So it was reported that Aitnori was sort of pushing for a transfer and offered to you guys apparently. He was left on the bench the other day when Kustov was brought on a left back against Porto.

52:12I think that was pointed. But then 20 minutes later he brought on Aitnori as a left wing. I think he was saying mate we can play with the people there but now go in and win the game and he got an assist. I felt he was really good man management because Yeah it was weird because we saw him and we were like hang on a minute why does Kustov have a left back I liked it. I thought he was smart. And then he has sort of like sort of in the way. But you are in the doghouse a little bit. And I totally respect that. And he's used all the plays so far. He's brought McAdie on an 18-year-old. He said, and you see it all the time, oh, these kids are part of the team now.

52:38But they never get any minutes. How big is it, though? I mean, to win a derby. Unbelievable. Huge. If he wins a derby. It would be big for him, wouldn't it? I remember Pep's first derby was at Old Trafford as well. I think it was actually weirdly 10 years ago today, which is weird. That was the De Bruyne one, wasn't it? Yeah, De Bruyne in that game could have genuinely had a hat-trick. I think he was a big part of why we won. but it's Pep's first derby we went 2-0 2-1 it ended

53:00Gary Neville: if he loses on Sunday and the start that you've had it was challenging against Coventry and there were moments against Bournemouth does that start to be the glass half empty a little bit? No, I think he's got a bit of time because numerically look at the points if we had nine points from four games it's not a bad start the derby last year we lost two of our first three games United was the fourth game it's the same time of the year last year it'd have been the end of the world for me if we'd lost that derby. I'd never want to lose a derby. If we came away and it was, you know, a 2-2, I wouldn't be gutted, but I want to win the game and I'd definitely not take a draw now, do you know what I mean?

53:35Can I ask you something, Gary? So we were talking a lot about, you know, how much this matters and so on. We were all talking about players and it doesn't make for good content to say, oh, it's early season. But how much did you feel as a player, that early season lack of fitness, sharpness, did it genuinely impact the team? Or did you feel like you were... I think, you know what I mean by that? Does it really change the level of the side?

53:56Gary Neville: I don't think you're ever calling... Once you're into September, I think you're sort of your early season. Oh, you're getting sharp. That's gone. I think that's gone. I mean, on Sunday, there'd be no excuses after saying, oh, it's early season and we're just getting into it. I think also it's bloody hard to win a big game. It's really hard to win a big football. It always has been. So the idea, if City do win on Sunday, they'll have had to have done something really well. And for United to win on Sunday, a lot of things will have had to have gone well in that game. You know what I mean? Decisions like last season.

54:26Gary Neville: When you said before you wouldn't take a draw. No, I really wouldn't. Would you not? Would you take a draw? Do you know something? If you went into any big game, for me, I'm not saying you can draw every big match, but losing a big match is devastating. So if I said now nil-nil, bore fest, you'd take it. Well, a clean sheet, I'd snap your hand off. It's a win for them. If it was nil-nil, I wouldn't like it because I hate nil-nils. Okay, 2-2, we'll say 2-2 then. Are you shaking my mind now? I've gone... Joseph, it'll be the manner of the performance in terms of how we've played. That will be important to me.

55:02Were we 2-0 up and then we threw it away? OK, it was 1-0 City, it was 1-1,

55:06Gary Neville: it was 2-1 City, it was 2-2. I don't think you can ever say a draw is not... Of course, everyone wants to win. Obviously, none of us want to draw. I wouldn't take a draw now. If you said, I'll offer you, I would definitely not take a draw. So you think win? I think we can win the game. I'm not saying we're definitely going to win, but I wouldn't take a draw now. Up front. Why wouldn't you take a draw? Well, I always... Do you think manager would? Well, I spot Man City in 2026. I don't think manager would. I don't know if he would take a draw. No, I don't think he'd take it. I think he'd maybe be more of a debate.

55:34I think Manchester Derby, Old Trafford.

55:36Gary Neville: Would Alex Ferguson take a draw if he was in the round? No, no. And by the way, I wouldn't take a draw whilst I was playing. What I'm talking about now is if you're Mureska now thinking about this game on Sunday, what you don't want is carnage, right? You don't want a circus or a festival where United are literally tramping all over you for the last 20 minutes where the fans are jumping up and down and hanging from the roofs. And he's probably thinking that's what can happen at Old Trafford sometimes. It can happen. It can. He'll just, if you said to me, 1-1, 10 points from 12, played away at Old Trafford, I think he'd walk away, shake your hand and say, right, let's fight again down the road.

56:08Gary Neville: And if it was Michael Carrick, Michael probably wouldn't take a draw because I think he feels like he needs to start the season. Don't think Carrick would take a draw? If we'd had nine points from three. We need to weed. Luke, if we'd had nine points from three, I think both managers would be safe. because City have had nine points. If you put them on ten on Sunday evening, it's not the end of the world. You just said about nine. Yeah, it's not the end of the world. I just think in a derby, even look at when Sven came in. He said himself, the only two games he seemed to care about were the derbies.

56:33He wins them. Do you know what I mean? I think the derby, he can get months of credit off the City fans if he wins this game. I see what you mean. The draw kind of... Okay. We're better. We're better. I don't think a manager... We're a better side than Man Utd. I just think that's undebatable, really. And I think if you've got a manager who wants to challenge for the Champions League, the Premier League, and the squad that we had last season were only if he gave us a way for winning the league. We won two domestic trophies. I don't want a manager who sits there and goes, I'll take a draw away.

57:00Also, the other thing is, we've not won it too. I don't think he'd ever publicly admit that. Yeah, but let's be clear. Let's be clear.

57:07Gary Neville: He's playing for a win. Michael Carrick is playing for a win. Let's not get confused here from a point that we're talking about hypothetical. If you said to Enzo Moresco, what does 7.30 on Sunday evening look like when you get back to your house in Manchester and you're there on 10 points and it's a 1-1, he'd probably say, if you offered it him now, he'd probably take that. Whether Michael would have, I'm not sure, because I think United do need to win because of how we've started. On to Michael Carrick. Where are we at, lads, with Michael in terms of the first few weeks of the season? I'm quite calm about everything, to be honest.

57:36The whole game was a disaster, and I thought it was a real poor performance. You could maybe put that down to fitness and things like that, but I thought from set pieces were real, real bad. and a lot of the talk about Holland and everything was that those guys are sorting it out and defensively they're going to get us better and I just thought you need to work on the training ground quite clearly. Ipswich game, obviously happy with that and then the Everton game in the main I was happy. Like if we beat Everton, I'm kind of putting the whole game down as an anomaly and I'm delighted with the way things are going but it was that last 15 minutes which I thought we were really naive.

58:12I put it on the players more than the manager although the substitutions maybe I wouldn't have took Kaby Meno off but I just thought we were so naive and our game management was lacking massively and I know looking ahead but we've got Champions League coming up if you play like that in the Champions League away from home you're going to get kicked out of the group so we need to fix that up There's no groups anymore man I know you've not been in a little while But it's one big group One big group Pretty much everyone goes through It's one big group We did the same thing at Everton I mean Yeah Sat off like that but yeah I just think I think we've still got that dynamic it's just like

58:47Gary Neville: there will be a big pressure though if we lose on Sunday yeah it's going to be horrible I'm going to stay off social media and all of that if we don't win on Sunday it's going to be bad I've got your number Adam it's going to be bad so we're like right we've got some hot takes I just need to find them where are we going here we go But I think we'll win as well, to be fair. I don't think it's that. I'm always confident in the big games. It's the games against Everton. If I was predicting the game on Sunday, what I think will happen is that Manchester United, in a period in the match, will just have that explosion.

59:22Gary Neville: There's very few games in a year where United fans, I always think when the South Stand starts singing, which is the main stand, then you know something's happening. and to be fair, it happened quite a few times during my career and you know that's happened, it's impossible. I just don't think all players care about that in the nicest possible way. Oh, me too. Shut up. That's all he cares about, the south stand. You think Elliot Anderson is a one-on-one. He scored against you last season. Yeah, he's not in Good Forest, he's in City. Steve, what I'm saying to you, sometimes when a game just gets taken away from you...

59:50Gary Neville: Sure, but they're not scared of the south stand, they're not. Oh, come on. After players got battered last season. He's scared of the south stand. From the streets of Argentina gives you shit about the South, then. Of course you do, mate. That guy was scrapping for his life in Argentina. I think Enzo and Haaland, to be fair... You don't care. Don't worry about the South, then. I just think there'll be an element of... It's not even about them two. It's just like something happens. I watched Erling Haaland at Anfield in the last four, five, six years when Liverpool just completely took a game away from it.

1:00:19Gary Neville: Paul, do you think you're not Anfield? You're not... Oh, it's a Manchester derby. This is not Klopp's Liverpool. The quality of that is not... The mistake is, right, if you go 1-0 down, 2-0 down, and the crowd are up for it, and Old Travers are naked, your head's feeling heart-fisting. I find it... I don't think we're going to say that about any doubt. No one's suggesting they're scared of it, though. I find it mental, though, you're not wrapping your head around that aspect. Let me give you another example. I think you're overplaying how much they're going to be entertained by it. Let me give you a better example that I think you'll probably agree with, right?

1:00:47Gary Neville: There was once a full-back that played for United that gave a really bad goal away. It's on the wall up there. A really bad goal away. And then there's this guy called Sean Gowter, right? He went and stuck it through Fabian Barthas' legs, or it might have just gone round the side of his legs. And do you know what that goal did? It created an absolute circus and a carnival, right? So every time for the next 20 minutes after that where I got the ball, or 15 minutes, however long it's left to half-time, it was an absolute circus. The fans were up. It was like a mayhem. City's players just buoyed by it.

1:01:17Gary Neville: You can't stop that sometimes. Yeah, OK, fair enough. And Old Trafford can sometimes grab you like that. And to be fair, soak another ground. so I'm not saying City's ground card either. You've done it against Madrid. Yeah. I've seen it. So you've seen it happen. So my point is, I think there'll be a period in the game, I think. Whether that storm basically, is what you're saying. Where that storm comes and it's where the City can actually... Fucking hell, Howard. Storm's coming. Fucking hell, Jesus. Storm's come already. So if the storm comes, can you withstand that storm? And that's it. If you can, I'll be the first to say after the game, I'll do a podcast, I'll say, look, City withstood the pressure, they got through it and they come out the other side and they won it.

1:01:54Gary Neville: Gary, we won the point drops as well. My point is, there's nothing they haven't seen before. My point is, there's nothing they haven't seen before. You know, they've got players who played at the highest. Yeah, but you can't do anything about it. You might have seen it before, but you can't do anything about it. Oh, man, I could already see it to curb your enthusiasm music at Haaland after one minute. Oh, yeah. Six minutes, Haaland won. Absolutely, but I've watched Haaland. City should win the football, Matt. You said it was 2-1. No, City should. City should win the football. You're about to think it's 2-1.

1:02:21But I think Manchester United will win 2-1. I understand crowd can get carried, and the crowd can carry a game. I get that. I just, I think we're putting a lot on the idea that these players are going to be sort of overawed by it. It can happen, of course it can. The thing I'd say is that's not like a unique thing. Like I said, it's something that can happen. It's why you can't play at Anfield. What made that so hard also was the quality of their players. That was a brilliant side, a ridiculous side. Of course, but your fans could be the 12th man without being cringe.

1:02:48Gary Neville: But these big clubs, like, I was watching Real Madrid versus Inter Milan the other night, and in the first 15, 20 minutes that Inter Milan looked unbelievable and Real Madrid looked pretty hopeless to be fair for 15 minutes. Real crap. And all of a sudden, all of a sudden the guy makes a mistake, I can't remember what it is. Goalkeeper. Goalkeeper makes a mistake and Haaland scores, Mbappe scores, fucking hell, got him on the brain now. Mbappe scores and this Real Madrid, all of a sudden it's like, and these clubs, the big clubs, including City now, they can just do that. They can just take a game away from you even if they're not playing well.

1:03:17Gary Neville: Let's move on. You have made a lot of mistakes. You have made a lot of mistakes this season. I watched the Coventry game the Semenyo loose pass that put a one year through Donnarumma almost rolling the ball over he did it against individual ones he did it against Porto as well so there are nerves in this team and you've not been to a stadium this season that is like Old Trafford and the sound of Old Trafford Porto away was pretty intense though you were there yeah of course I mean we had they wouldn't have beaten in a year at home as well so that was incredible of course we're talking about United as the underdogs yeah we can play decent football at times we do have some very good players we're not like We're not really, really bad.

1:03:52Like, I mean, you're in prison. No, no, no. We have been further apart in recent years. Yeah, the gap is not as big as what it used to be. It's not.

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1:05:58Gary Neville: I don't like these hot takes. Do I have to read out these hot takes? Do you not like them? Is there only two of them?

1:06:08Fuck. You want us to read them? What's going on?

1:06:10Gary Neville: No, I can read them. You don't want to read them? I don't want to read them. it would not want to be oh hang on there is more actually sorry there's one two is there three oh no there's right okay here we go yeah look obviously I've not written these I wouldn't be reading them out okay Pep Guardiola has achieved more in the Premier League than Sir Alex Ferguson Luke we'll start with you in a in a relative time period yeah you know the win in the four in a row he didn't Fergie didn't do that you look I mean you look on paper the easiest argument is Pep won six Fergie won 13 so in terms of winning titles that's just not even of debate, is it?

1:06:46But I think in terms of the level of domination, I think Pep... If Fergie retired in 2001, his Premier League... Yeah. Factually, he's not. ...status would have been greater than his... In 2001, he had... By 2001, we had seven league titles, two doubles, a treble, cup winners, cup. For me, Fergie's greatness... He didn't win four league titles in a row, though. He also didn't... He also didn't have the land's answer. The teams that United had to compete against are a lot better than the teams that you're competing against. Well, we were that good, we didn't compete. you're actually using our success against we got 100 points we did 99 points no but that's the only team who else who else this Arsenal team I think is the second great Premier League team this Arsenal team which did win the league got 98 points got 99 points like the Liverpool team is almost good I'm talking about eras I'm talking about going through eras so obviously Pep Pep's kryptonite was obviously Liverpool has there been a greater 10 year period in the Premier League of a manager greater 10 year period in terms of success Fergie won Fergie between 92-93 What did the Premier League were on about?

1:07:46Yeah, Fergie won Fergie won 7 in 9 or 8 in 10 at some point But Pep won 6 in 7 He won 4 in a row Fergie didn't let Arteta run it back 4 in a row 100 points 98 points Rewriting all the most goals Domestically as well Fergie also dealt with by the way Blackburn and all their money at the start United cannot Newcastle Oh come on No Fergie was never the top spender in the Premier League until 2001 You cannot talk about You cannot talk about money mate You cannot That's the whole point You physically can't start saying Fergie was competing with money look at the amount of money United have spent when Pep was there more than City look at the amount Arsenal and Liverpool that's not the point we're talking about Fergie you're saying Fergie you know what you're saying is Fergie was competing against teams spending a lot of money I can understand that and my point was also he was competing with Arsenal's greatest ever side Chelsea's greatest Chelsea's greatest ever side not just anybody and even in the Champions League we came up when Serie A was the greatest league we were against a side who had the second most points ever in Premier League history the Klopp side was remarkable do you not think Pep was that good that he actually stopped some of these teams achieving what they could have achieved absolutely if Pep wasn't there Liverpool's greatest ever side is easily going to be that 2019 is the league not relative to all the teams so you're talking about 100 points was the league not just worse we can all sit here and say the league was better it was we can sit and say that as if European football isn't dominated by English sides constantly these days that's a fact the point is this idea that the Premier League are weaker just suits a narrative that just brings out it could go either way using a record points total when they both were in the same league at the same time it's completely irrelevant how can we discuss this entirely then because it's relative to the rest of the league if the league's worse you get more points guess what the gaps were that's one explanation if you have a team that's so good they achieve that points you can also have it where you're saying a team's decent that's the point you can't compare when he was up against Guardiola City you know what I mean you wouldn't have had that many trophies I was saying you can't talk about how good it was then when you didn't have arguably the other greatest battling against each other except in two Champions League finals so you only played against those sides would you have won all those trophies that City side was around then?

1:09:52You think if Fergie's United were in the league where Hughes would Hughes won all the leagues would he let Ardus win as many titles if Guardiola's best City side was there at the same time? No that's the point I'm making No I didn't say no he might well have he might well have You think he would have the bro in the David Silva and all these great We had Cristiano Ronaldo. What did Guardiola do to Ferguson? Have him shaking, mate, literally. That was Messi. With Messi, David Villa.

1:10:22Gary Neville: Let me try and bring this back to one factual point. Alex Ferguson won 13 Premier League titles in 21 seasons. Pep Guardiola won six Premier League titles in 10 seasons. What would be the greater achievement? I think it's Sir Alex. you want more you're not going to agree but I look at the four in a row I look at the 100 points and 98 points stop not picking moments we're not talking we're not talking I think they're almost hand in hand I would say because 6 and 10 is that what rate is there's a bit of a reverse down the road there isn't there no no because like we said which is the better achievement because the question if someone's won 13 you can't argue if the records are about the same I'm saying Pep's domination in the Premier League well the question so the question is Pep has achieved more in the Premier League than Sir Alex.

1:11:12Gary Neville: Well, he's not achieved more. Well, that's technically not true though, is it really? He's not achieved more. No. No one's achieved more. Should we answer the question? Pep has achieved more in the Premier League than Sir Alex. Well, he's not, has he? Well, the ratio is about the same, isn't it, in terms of years, so we can't really... Well, it's like saying who's got more goals, you know, Alan Shearer Look at the clubs that they inherited as well. You've got to look at the context of the clubs that they took over. Fergie took over a club that hadn't won the league in 20-odd plus years. They were tiny clubs.

1:11:40The academy was ruined. Small club. What are you on about? No one's saying that. If you listen properly, you'll hear what I'm saying. He took over a club that the culture needed change and everything. Pep came into a side that was ready for Pep. No, no. Oh my God. Before Pep got there, everyone knew Pep was going there. He spent 250 minutes on fullbacks. Everyone knew Pep was going there. Mate, we finished fourth by the skin of our teeth the season before he came in. We had like... You also won the league with Mancini and Pellegrini and all these people before Pep got over. Where were you now before Ferguson came in?

1:12:08I don't know where were in the league but we weren't very good in we weren't challenging for league titles we weren't challenging for league titles when Pep came in what we finished fourth we were about 20 points under Pep Guardiola you finished fourth no the season before the season before he came in we finished Pellegrini fourth in the league terrible so when was your last title before Pellegrini two years earlier that's around two years earlier we're talking about United not winning a title when Fergie come in for ages ages

1:12:34Gary Neville: let's move on I think we've got to a point I think the gentlemen have accepted that Pep Guardiola's achievement in the Premier League isn't as good as Srelix. So, next hot take, Bruno Fernandes is a better player, a much better player than Kevin De Bruyne. Not even close. Not close. I don't think he's far apart. I think if Bruno was playing for City, I think you'd see similar... I think he'd have... I think he'd have... And he'd have a stack. Not the same legacy, obviously, because he's clearly United's best player. I don't think he'd have been City's best player, and I think... He'd have done well if he'd come to City, but I don't think he'd even be regarded in the same kind of bracket as I think he would I think he'd have stats wise done worse at City you put those players around him you were in for him when we bought him so I really do wonder what would have happened if you'd have got him well no that's what I mean I think he wouldn't have been this kind of like figurehead of like I don't but if you think about Bruno's goals and assists in an inferior team but I think that that suits him because he's United's mate he wouldn't have been City's mate he gets everything at United he gets he has all the I wouldn't have said that about Brian Robson in the 80s.

1:13:39Gary Neville: If you're playing in an inferior team, it's got to be harder than playing. I'll stick it to you straight. I would not have been the player if I played for an inferior team than playing with the players I played with. Playing in a better team gives you a far better chance. I think it surely depends who you are, though. Do you think in terms of the stats? Just from that, from a point of view of De Bruyne, he's got a defence that, to be fair, is fantastic. He's got David Silva and Fernandinho alongside him. He's got Aguero. I don't know who was on the wing. Sterling and Sané. so he's got incredible players around him he's got Haaland to be able to play so it is easier for Kevin De Bruyne look he's a special player by the way I love him to bits but it Gary Neville loves Kevin De Bruyne I'll take that out I love him to bits but it is easier to play with better players in a better team it is one of them had Aguero, Haaland all the players one of them had Regals and Rasmus Hoiland but to me that's why I'm De Bruyne because we had all time Premier League great and he was always the best player on our team you know what it's like when you've got one guy despite being surrounded by a world class place still looks like the best player in the team we'd often play Bayern or Madrid and De Bruyne would be the best player I know you're saying it's in a worse team obviously it's in a worse team but you look at what he's actually won at United is it two cups?

1:14:53Gary Neville: I do agree I think we should concede when you read it Bruno Fernandes is a much better player he's not better I think in some ways we'll concede the point that it's probably not right final one Manchester City are now a bigger club than Manchester United I don't care if you give me the metrics I'll give you an answer do you know what I mean if the metrics are who's been bigger in Europe who's been bigger winning league titles who's got the bigger fan base United we don't care so we're a bigger club what fan base get your cock out on the table we've got more fans we're a bigger club Jesus Christ man ultimately

1:15:36It keeps us happy, doesn't it? You know what I mean? I mean, I don't care either way, but it's clear that you know. I don't think anyone's ever said, put your cock on the table. That's what the United fans do, look how big it is. Look how big the size of our fans. But the question is, how big? Who's bigger? Who's dad's bigger? It's like, no one cares.

1:15:57Gary Neville: The Big Game Preview is brought to you by Skybet. We've got a quiz and we're going to start with the United lads first. OK, who got the winner in the following game? Manchester City 2, Manchester United 3, Sunday 7th November 1993. Giggs. I think it might be... I think it's Giggs. No, it's Roy Keane, back post. Back post Roy Keane? Jeez, yeah. Yeah. I think that's a year after, I'm thinking. OK. Manchester City 2, Manchester United 3, Saturday 6th April 1996 I think it's that one as well I can't say it I can't say it it's one of them it's gigs it's one of them it is gigs Lee Sharp it's Lee Sharp Manchester City 2 Manchester United 3 Sunday 9th December 2012 Van Persie yeah that's a pretty kick Nas Reduct yes which that was only one question so you got I don't know how that works that's two out of three two points Two points.

1:17:00Gary Neville: OK, you get two points for that. Well done. Which player has scored the most in Manchester derbies in all competitions? Wayne Rooney. Wayne Rooney, yeah. Well done. We know Ryan Giggs has played in the most Manchester derbies in the Premier League with 29, but which Manchester United player is second with 23? Is there a time limit? No, you can have 60. Just appearances. Yeah, so most Manchester derby appearances in the Premier League. I wouldn't have got it. Who's top? Giggsie. Waza, Scolzi. Him. I don't think it would have been Gary. Er... Thanks for that, Aris. It's alright. It's alright. Erm...

1:17:39Killy Park, full-back centre-half. P.H. won't be P.H. Michael. I think Wazza or Scalzi. I think I know. Scalzi have sold up. He's thrown you off, mate.

1:17:53Gary Neville: I might do, yeah. Go on, who are you going for? Wazza or Scalzi, go on. Go Scalzi. OK, well, Scholes and Rooney are third and fourth with 21. You've got to remember, we weren't in the league. You've got to remember that. It's Dave. He's there for like 10. You forget, yeah, you forget. He was there at 12 foot. Yeah, David De Gea. So, who is the only Manchester United player to score a hat-trick against Manchester City in the Premier League? The only Manchester United player? Andre Kocaskis. Yeah, well done, Adam.

1:18:22Gary Neville: And final question. Which player has been sent off the most in Manchester derbies in the Premier League? I actually know this one Wow Which Manchester United player Has been sent off No which player Has been sent off Most in the Manchester Derby In the Premier League Is it Hockey No Wow I know I'm shocked with this No wait If it's shocked him If it's shocked him Is it I wouldn't have got it Maybe someone weird Like Chris Smalling That's not my answer It's definitely weird Oh It's Ronaldo Fuck He's actually nicked it It's Ronaldo Both at the Etihad Yeah Yeah Cristiano So you've got It started with Chris you got two wrong out of the seven questions did we get one for the eight?

1:19:04Gary Neville: I know I did get that that's a good show it was obvious you started the game yeah right so Stephen and Luke here we go so you scored it says out of five here five then? right so here we go so well done lads you got five out of seven and now we've got the City lads Luke and Stephen up for their part in it so who got the winner in the following games? Manchester City 1 Manchester United 0 Sunday 19th August 2007 Giovanni Giovanni Wow Correct Crossbar isn't it Yeah that was Yeah with Castor Michael Bell That was a long range one That was the first RB I saw as a winning person It's been a long time yeah Manchester City 1 Manchester United 0 Sunday 2nd November 2014 Hang on Yeah that was That was at City That was Aguero I'm pretty sure 1-0 Aguero.

1:19:57Wait, 2014? What was the date again, sir? It was Pellegrini's... 2nd November. 2nd November. Yeah. And see the kit. Yeah, same. You see the kit? Yeah, I just see the kits, yeah. Joe, what's actually really funny, there's a picture in a frame out there that we're going to put on the wall and it's that gold. It is, it is. Now I know why they've not put it up on the thing. Where's that picture that in here? 2014. You have got a clock. You've got this. Clock? Yeah. Five. I think it's Aguero. Go for it. I'm going to say Aguero. It's company. It's Aguero. Oh, we thought it was Aguero. You've got to stick with your gut.

1:20:39I said that straight. Aguero's company was two years earlier when he was there in the title race.

1:20:42Gary Neville: Right. Manchester United won. Manchester City, two. Sunday the 10th of December 2017. No old ones for these. What is it, Old Trafford? What goal is it? It's Old Trafford. Sunday the 10th Second goal Yeah so it's Nicholas Otamendi Yeah Wow Go on Three out of three Well done Right Name the five players To have played with Manchester United And Manchester City In the Premier League It's Michael Yeah Carlos Tevez Yeah Tevez Cole I think there's one They're not going to Owen Hargreaves No no I don't know if he played In the Premier League He played in the League Owen Hargreaves Yeah he did play in the Premier League He's on the list, Hogan.

1:21:25He is on the list. He's played for City. I didn't know if he'd played. One more. I'm gone.

1:21:30Gary Neville: Tevez, Cole, Schmeichel, Hargreaves. You've not named one. We'll get this, if you think about it. Yeah, we'll get this. My head's not working, but we'll get it. I've got him wrong. In the Premier League, this is. Yeah, I don't even remember him playing. Oh, Kajalskis. Huh? Kajalskis, baby. Yeah, Kajalskis. I didn't remember Kajalskis playing. I forgot that as well. Yeah, he did. He got me in a... I just remember him going to Everton and doing his arm on the first day of the season against us. Who is the only Manchester City player to have received a red card in a Manchester derby in the Premier League?

1:21:58Is it Stephen Jordan on there? Ronaldo? No, because I don't think he got away with that. No, he got away with it. You're right. Company got sent off in the FA Cup. I've never heard of this guy. What?

1:22:11Gary Neville: Have you not? I've remembered the instance. Never heard of him. I don't think I must have played football for 20-odd years and commentated on it. I think I'm actually going a bit mind-numb. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's what I thought. No, but he landed on Ronaldo in that game and then Ronaldo retaliates and does it back. That was the red flag. Right, go on, who is it? He's got it. Do you know who it is? Steven Jordan? No. No. It's a guy called Bernardo Carade. Oh, that's right. He got sent off. Corroded, we called him. Corroded. Right, you got one wrong. Who was the first player to score for Manchester City against Manchester United in the Premier League.

1:22:50Ooh. So this would have been... Oh, 92 then or something. I won't remember that. I was six. I was minus 11.

1:22:58Gary Neville: Minus 11. It says there's a clue here, but if I give them that clue, it absolutely just gives them the answer. Hang on, but you went, oh, it's a weird one for them, so we can... Is it going to be like, oh, is it going to be like Mark Roberts? Which question was it? No, he played for you. No, no, no. They got a clue. I'm trying to give you a clue that's not this one, because this clue, you just get it straight away. He's going against the book now. This is not very impartial. 92, yeah. I started watching in 94. Right, just before my time. He'll be, I'll know. Is he one of the Brightwell brothers?

1:23:26Gary Neville: No. No. He's a well-known player. That's a well-known player. He's a well-known player for City back in the day. Yeah, hold on. He just asked you if it was... It's a wrong answer. It's his answer. It has to be that. He answered if he said no. What year did Wanchop play? You don't have to deal with that. Wait, many years later. Ten years later, so don't worry. He was like... So he got the first hat trick for City. He was like 2 ,000 to Wanchop. So I was thinking... I don't know, I can't remember. As soon as I get the clue... Should we say it's wrong and hear the clue anyway? I've already said...

1:23:51Gary Neville: I'm trying to get the clue that doesn't give you the answer. Let's not accept it's wrong. We're not taking a draw. I've already said one of the... We've said we're not taking a draw. Nah, there's a... There won't be a draw. He's been a co-commentator and a pundit. Oh! No. Co-commentator? Niall Quinn. Quinn, he was 92. Yeah, he was on Sky Sports for a bit, wasn't he? I didn't know he was... In like 2012, yeah. who has the better win percentage in derbies Pep Guardiola or Sir Alex Ferguson no hang on no no no mate you've got to think about this I think it's probably Ferguson I won't say it out loud until you oh wait in derbies what we've got to remember we went like 15 years of my life if I win the derbies yeah but we didn't have that many of them derbies do you know what I mean that's true when we weren't in the league when we weren't in the league though we didn't actually play do you know something both percentages are lower than I would have I bet you they're like 50-odd.

1:24:44Gary Neville: Is that right? Yeah. Both of them are lower than I thought. Toss him a coin, isn't it, really? Yeah, I was going to say, he's either one wins or one. No, I could work it out. What I know is that Pep's derby win rate wasn't as good as you'd think. Definitely not. No, he wasn't. Solskjaer had a few. Is it in Premier League this, or just derbies? It was derbies. It has to be Premier League. No, it's Manchester derbies. Derbies. Cup finals in a couple. I would go Fergie, I think. Yeah, I'm going to guess Ferguson too. You're right. 56 % for Alex Ferguson 50 % for Pep Guardiola we all go on and you think you're going to win on Sunday Pep could only win one of them too it's a little bit flawed because there was like a second leg of a Carabao Cup that we'd already beaten you in and that goes down as a United win do you know what I mean we beat you away there's stuff like that that's a few percent that your tenuous shitty ever that's shit that proper shit I like it there's a lot of draws as well nils nils he's like a city GPT bot in here or something and he just fucking finds every step there's a lot in there do we have a tiebreaker have we not won here we go he's a tiebreaker is this a shout out then oh ok here we go right you're going to have to name players from Manchester United and Manchester City with over 250 Premier League appearances if you name someone wrong you are eliminated the last person to not be eliminated wins the quiz for their team so the pool of players for the club individually overall Is it for the club individually or is it as in like they played for you when they had over 250 people It says for Manchester United and Manchester City with over 250 people So they've got triple the players For example Milder wouldn't count because most of his are for another time So you go back so basically Surely you can say Man United players Oh can we say United players Yeah yeah yeah Let's just do all United players Because they're not going to get our niche ones Right okay Here we go So hang on a second We're going to go Harrison, Luke Steven Adam Gary Neville I'll go can I say United players yeah yeah really you should name City players if you want to take their hard ones Giggs alright not that forget that tactic what's what just happened there I thought it was going oh yeah sorry Skulls Skulls so you've got four City four United players so far Sorry, who's been said?

1:27:12Gary Neville: So who's been said so far is Gary Neville. Kassonite 2 and Wazza. Gary Neville, Skulls, Giggs, Rooney.

1:27:23Gary Neville: Grab De Geo. Eh? De Geo. Yeah, add to that name some City players if I were you, lads. They're going to just sweep up at the end, aren't they? I'll go Carrick. Yeah. Who's next? Aguero. yeah take out the big City players if you want mate because they're going to get them anyway David Silva yeah Sterling number one yeah Sterling no you're out of the game you're out of the game Harrison oh is it wait it's a team thing it's a Premier League appearances for City yeah you're out of the game so basically Adam you're on your own now so it's over to you Steve is it you Steve or is it you Luke I'll just farm United it's you Luke isn't it yeah I'll go with actually I'll just go Bernardo Silva Nicky Butt yeah have we had Roy Keane yet?

1:28:17no don't think so Keane?

1:28:18Gary Neville: yep Roy Keane Wes Brown ooh I thought dangerous one I don't know why I've done that you're doing the Gary he's not there he's not there I thought Wes Brown wait Wes Brown's surely got I can't believe Wes I could say 32 appearances in the Premier League yeah so the question is the appearances Manchester City have won the quiz maybe that's the only thing you win this week that'll level out the Gary Neville jinx yeah there we go let's have a look do you want to see the rest of them I'll read them out for you actually so the rest of the United ones were Rio Ferdinand Dennis Irwin Marcus Rashford Patrice Evra David Beckham Phil Neville John O'Shea and Peter Schmeichel I tried to get clever and save some of the obvious ones and then you've got Guero, De Bruyne Guero, company You've got De Bruyne, Edison Joe Hart Walker Johnson John Stones won't be in there I don't think Joe Hart wouldn't Fernandino And last one Richard Dunn Just nine players Yeah that's what I was saying How many did United have?

1:29:24Gary Neville: United have 16 Yeah I knew that's why I took the United ones Because I thought They're going to have more aren't they? I once not made Richard Dunn It's my claim to fame I actually loved that I had Edison KDB. So that's the end of the big game preview, but it wouldn't be the end without each of us giving a score prediction for Sunday. And I've started already. I did it earlier in the show. I've said 2-1 to United. And I'm going to move straight over to you, Stephen. Fuck it. I'm just going to go for 3-0 City. Why not? Well done, Stephen. 3-1. 3-1 United. I'm going to go 2-0 City. Haaland gets both of them.

1:29:573-2 United. Oh, I love that. Rashford scores. Rashford scores. At the end of this, we go as well. Well done. We'll be on the table.

1:30:06Gary Neville: Well done. Well done. Well done.

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