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0:32Jermaine Defoe! Wrong!

0:43Yeah, that's right! It's like my first season getting called a one-season wonder and all stuff like that. Who called you that? You got a name? Who called you a one-season wonder? It wasn't me. You're hurt. You're a Man United fan, you're hurt. No, I'm not hurt. I'm sitting here slapping you up every week and you're hurt. I feel like Jerry Springer here. Yeah. I sent off for a stamp on Gareth Southgate. Yeah, and he deserved it. I've never lost a fight. Do you think you ever will? I don't think I'll ever lose a fight, no. I don't think I will. I don't think there's nobody out there to beat me. That's not true, it's belly.

1:14Big belly.

1:18It's only time I'll be going to bed with a dick. No.

1:29Does it annoy you? I mean, I fall into a trap myself in the last ten years of being on television. This perception of Tottenham, when you, you are tough, you are a leader, you are resilient, you're an unbelievable player, score long goals, and then you get people calling the club, whether it be flaky, you know, bottle it in big moments, that must really annoy you. It's someone like you. Yeah, no, it's hard to hear, if I'm totally honest, you know. Like you say, we've been so close and things could have been a lot different but I understand obviously we haven't got over the line as a club, we haven't won things, we haven't been dominant when you could say we've probably had the best team we've had for a very, very long time but for sure you hear them comments and they kind of eat at you a little bit inside.

2:09Do they bite you? Yeah, they almost get you going a little bit, you know, it's almost trying to prove people wrong and that's been kind of me my whole career in all aspects really, like my first season getting called a one season wonder and all stuff like that. Who called you that? Have you got a name? Wish Pundit called you a one-season wonder, it wasn't me. You might have called me that one-season. It wasn't me. I put you on corners, but I didn't call you a one-season wonder. No, I mean, but all stuff, like, for me, obviously you've known me through England and stuff, almost not like that pressure, but, you know, it gets me going and it brings out the best in me.

2:41And, yeah, when you hear stuff about your club, it's never easy. Of course, I know what it's like working day in, day out, playing with the players, working hard in the gym, in training to try and win stuff, to try and win trophies. of course it hasn't happened but it don't mean we're not working as hard as anyone else. As a club we just haven't been able to get over the line but I mean it's been some amazing moments and amazing years for the club so there is some positives there but of course my profession is about winning, I want to win so it for sure grates at me that we haven't done that. What's most important to you?

3:12For me it's I don't want to come to the end of my career and have any regrets so I want to be the best I can be. I've said before I'd never say I'd stay at Spurs for the rest of my career, I'd never say that I'd leave Spurs. I'm at that stage where you could say, you know, people might look at it as, oh, he's desperate for trophies, he needs trophies. I still feel like I've got almost another career to play. I've got seven, eight years, kind of what I've had so far in the Premier League. So I'm not rushing anything. I'm not desperate to do anything. But yeah, I just want to be the best version of me.

3:41And I feel like for sure, I've still got so much more to give. I feel like I can be even better than what I've been. I can produce better numbers than what I'm producing at the moment. Can you? I feel like I can. I've said before, and people are like, I'm someone who, I'm not afraid to say I want to be the best. I'm not afraid to say I want to try and get on the level that Ronaldo and Messi got to. That's my ultimate goal. That's my aim is to be winning trophies season in, season out, scoring 50, 60, 70 goals season in, season out. And that's the standard I want to set myself because I feel like if I give myself anything I think lower, then I might get to the end of my career and be like, actually, I could have maybe done a little bit more.

4:19I could have scored a few more goals. So that's my drive. The pressure from myself is always bigger than what anyone else can put on me. And like I said, I still feel like I've almost got another career to go and achieve what I want to achieve. Is that crossroad moment coming for you? I think so. I think it's definitely a conversation to be had with the club. Yeah, like I say, I want to be playing in the biggest games, the biggest moments. I'm there watching the Champions League, watching the English teams in there doing amazing and they're the games I want to be involved in. I want to be in them games.

4:50So for sure it's a moment in my career where I have to kind of reflect and see where I'm at and have a good honest conversation with the chairman and I hope we can have that conversation. And yeah, I'm sure he will want to kind of set out the plan of where he sees it, but ultimately it's going to be down to me and how I feel and what's going to be the best for me in my career at this moment in time. I've obviously witnessed Alan Shearer's career and it almost mirrored mine in some ways. I never thought anybody would get near his record and I never thought anybody, to be fair, would go past Wayne Rooney's record, but you will.

5:23What can stop you? I guess injuries would be the biggest thing, obviously. I've had injuries, ankle injuries, and I haven't had anything that's kept me out for months and months, touch wood, but, yeah, I guess for me, I think injuries would be the biggest thing. of course it's always the option of maybe moving abroad one day but I don't think that's really interested me in the near future so yeah injuries I guess in my mind would be the only things but like I said I feel like I've got a good seven or eight years at the top yeah when you look at kind of the message for now those Lewandowski's Ibrahimovic all kind of getting better as they get reach their early 30s.

6:05I'm still 27 so I've still got hopefully a long way to go. So, I mean, yeah, it's definitely there. I'm still obviously quite a ways off but I'd like to think consistently I've scored 20-plus in my injury-free seasons in the Premier League so if I can do that for the next four or five years then it'll be there. You want them records though, don't you? Yeah, I'd be lying if I said I didn't. I think if I get to the end and I haven't broke that record and the Rooney England record, then I'd probably be a little disappointed in myself, if I'm honest, but it's definitely there if I carry on doing what I've been doing.

6:45So I guess, yeah, it'll just be a great sign of consistency over many years. I mean, Shearer's record is incredible when you think about it. 260 goals. So I guess there's just that little bit of motivation there just to push me and hopefully go beyond that.

7:03And I know, right, that if I go into a big fight with one of these guys and he beats me, then obviously I'm not good enough because I know that I put in that much work and I've sparred the best and I've done everything that I possibly can. So if I lose to a better man on the night, I shake his hand and say, fair play, pal, you're a good fighter. But they don't have that attitude because they want to make excuses why they lost or this was wrong, that was wrong. I've hurt my foot, I've hurt my leg. I've had a bad training camp. And they can't face reality of what's happened. And that's it. But I've never lost a fight.

7:37People say to me, I don't think I'll ever lose a fight, no. I don't think I will. I don't think there's nobody out there to beat me. They're all businessmen, like Deontay Wilder, Anthony Jones, whoever is in this era that I'm in. They're all about business. They're all about making money. They're all about doing other business ventures. and being celebrities on telly. I want to be a movie star, I want to be this, I want to be that. And I'm just the same old G sitting here in Morecambe drinking my coffee. I don't really care about all that sort of stuff, business and whatever. But I suppose I come from a business background.

8:09I was earning money at 12 years old. So for them, it's new. But for me, it's something that I've done all my life. My dream from being a little kid was to beat Klitschko. When I was only young, Klitschko was a world champion, so I was always looking at him. and then when I'd completed it, it was game over for me. I didn't want to continue. Plus, I was mentally unstable. Going into that fight, I was very depressed and down and anxious and I always had that goal of beating Klitschko that kept me on the straight and narrow path. But after that goal was taken away from me, I had nothing else that I could focus on to give me that drive and it was just like total downward spiral and I just didn't want to live anymore.

8:47I was happy to die at 27. I was happy to finish, that was it. Nothing or nobody could bring me back. Not my wife and kids didn't care, didn't care about nothing. Every day I woke up, I just wanted to die. It's just, it's a crazy way to be, but only people who understand, like, who's been through depression and all that sort of stuff will understand what I'm saying. When you're so down and every day you wake up, even if it's sunshine and it's grey and you're negative all the time, and you're infectious, you infect people who are around you, make them negative and down, and you push everybody away.

9:16You just want to be left alone, like in a dark corner, and left alone, but my problem is I was eating as well, comfort eating so I was just getting heavier and heavier and more down and depressed and depressed and down and I never thought that I'd ever return to boxing or anything like that. The furthest I thought I'd ever go if I didn't die was padded room. What was you like at home with your wife at that time? Terrible non-existent. I'd go out for days on end drinking. What would she do? Was she ringing you? She'd be ringing me. I'd switch my phone off and they'd be thinking right he's killed himself now.

9:46He's gone and they'd be phoning around everywhere looking for me. Have you seen Tyson, I can't hold him for two days and I think he's killed himself because I was always like, yep, this is the day I'm going to kill myself. And I even attempted it as well one day and it wasn't good. It wasn't a good time in my life. It was just dark, lonely, horrible place and I never want to go back to, ever.

10:14I'm excited, but I always get a little bit sort of anxious, nervy before these interviews. I don't know, I can't stop thinking about his eyes. Every time I look at a picture of him or a video of him, I just think of his eyes and look, you know what I mean? It's like that stare, that seriousness about him.

10:49Hi. I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to shoot you. And you too. I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to shoot you. I got like a little nod, ****, and then he'll kill me. A little nod like he's going to **** kill me. I'm back in my room. I read. I go on the phone. SMS. Bim, bim. My wife starts in war.

11:22I think, hey, how I back at home, I call in Sergei, hey, Sergei, change please and the ticket, maybe fly in Poland. I call in my friend, hey, go in the car in Poland, sit in the car, go in the customs. Yeah. Into Ukraine? Yes, my friend called, hey, car and wait you, okay, no problem, we sit and go to Kiev. Maybe 300 kilometers in Kiev, you know, it's traffic back in Kiev. Going this way? Yeah, going as my car, it's one. Going this way? Yeah, going in Kiev. of the past and the polish and the stuff hey okay okay how Alex yeah where you go I go home okay okay I go and you know it's silence you know with the silence and I go my my room my wife you back yes I back I kiss okay maybe two three hour yeah back bombs yes my my friends 41 people live in my my house who who go in in a birthday we live one month I go and the army Ukraine I have my gun and I go my wife where you go you go to fight yes I go in the army yeah crazy yeah yes what do you make of the insult when he says you're he calls you rabbit you call him belly he said that when tony called me not a girl i said that i'm a black and then you call him belly

13:52Test and shoot, it's belly. Big belly.

14:02You think you're going to punch that belly? Yes, of course. Every time.

14:11Is Manchester City right now a cloud actually over the Premier League? You talk about other clubs trying to compete with you. If Manchester City were fifth in the Premier League, sixth in the Premier League, is not half the amount of moaning about it. Of course. It's because we're winning. But at the end of the day, you look at the transfer window just gone. Transfer window used to be a great day. Some of us are ringing sick at work. Transfer deadline day, we'd sit there, who were we going to sign? The biggest deal was a Formula One driver moving. It was£55 million. So they've even killed the transfer window.

14:38They've killed pre-season. I think the Premier League, from the outside looking in, is a mess. And I think all this with Everton, Forest, Villa, what we've said is a mess. And I'm just waiting for the fair trial. and if we're guilty, I'll put my hands up and there'll be no... You'll take your lap back? Yeah, but I've got to buy one of them recollect a European cup so I'll lock myself in the room with that. That's why I didn't want Qatar United because I feel that fans end up parroting this kind of state-sponsored PR and all these statements and stuff trying to defend your football club and that.

15:09And I get it, football fans are emotionally invested in their team so they're going to do that. But it's mad, isn't it? When you're trying to defend literal financial doping by a sports-washing state... It's alleged, isn't it? Come on, bro. Are you a lawyer? Bro, you just sat there defending him. Are you a lawyer? No, I've just said. Everyone, bro, it's OJ. I know much about it as you know. You know nothing and I know nothing. All right, nah. City's success is spot on. Come on, bro. You're hurt. You're a Man United fan, you're hurt. No, I'm not hurt. Obviously, my team's crap. But I'd rather be beaten by a Liverpool that is genuine success than just doped.

15:44It's literally you're losing against someone who's just juicing, bro. These are spent a billion pounds because they're not winning, apparently it's our fault. We know where the money comes from and I'd never defend the Glazers. I'd never defend the Glazers though, just like I wouldn't have defended us if we got Qatar. You sat here going... You sat here going... You sat here and went... You sat here. You can't say you because I wasn't there. There's probably about a couple of hundred people. There's always a couple of hundred people, even Glazer out probably... You know a couple of hundred people at City.

16:13You know what I mean? But how can you sit there and go, we're not state-owned, but you literally called them Etihad? You literally called your team and the owners estate? Who did? You, just then when you were talking. You were talking about a sponsor, the Etihad. It's an airway. You also referred to the owners as estate. I feel like Jerry Springer here.

16:35Right, your dad's here. Ted, come on, in you come. Ted, in you come. Come and stand round here. Oh, Teddy, Teddy. I'm going to say sorry for anything he says. You have to get legal sound. No swearing. I'll try not to. Ted, you watched him every single step of the way and he must be so proud, obviously, now the film's coming out this week. It must be good to reflect upon everything that's happened. Yeah, it's been an absolutely wonderful career for him. And as a dad, I mean, there aren't many dads that wish their son had a son like him. I mean, he's been brilliant. And his career's been correct.

17:14Where does he get the stubbornness from, Ted? Obviously from me. But now he's a good lad. Just talk to us about, obviously, family. You've obviously travelled all around the world, but you're probably more settled now than you've ever been in terms of finishing your career. I've always said, and it's like everyone, my family is the most important thing to me. As much as I love football, as much as I've had the career that I've had and played for the teams that I've played for, my number one thing is always my family. But like my dad talks about, my mum and dad never missed a game. No matter where I was playing, apart from obviously LA, it was a little bit too far from East London for them to travel every weekend.

17:59But other than that, they were at every game, every youth team game, every reserve team game, like your mum and dad were. And the community that we had you know at that time you know in you know in the youth team it wasn't just us that were friends and teammates it was our parents as well that all hung out they all went on holiday together they all traveled together and it was a special thing but the family part for me is is is the most important thing what's your thoughts had in terms of obviously now your football career is finished i will say you know everybody goes on about cantonal but this man here Oh, you're too kind Oh, he means his lads But the team wouldn't have won so much if it hadn't been for him Because I've watched, I've got probably 1300 videos of David's games and whatever And England games But especially Man U And this man here, he worked his socks off for the team And it proved, you know, when he got booked against Juventus he still played like he was going to play in the final but it's been incredible football to me has been my life and I've been there for him and vice versa but it's a beautiful thing yeah it is you support your kids and that's what me and his mum have done it's a beautiful place to finish and all the best to you with the film.

19:35And thank you very much for coming on. Nice one, Bix. Thanks for having me on. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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20:47How many have you had, Roy? Which one of yours are we going to... How many times have you sent off? Not that many. I think seven or eight. That's a lot. It's got to be more than that. For a combative midfielder, it's not a lot. I'm hearing 13. I'm hearing wrong. You won't have enough to send off. Absolutely not. How many times has Roy sent off? Do we have any stats on this? We've definitely got... I want to say seven or eight. We've definitely got 11, Roy. Let's just work through these now. Let's have a work through. If I'm wrong, I won't have any cake. Right, the first one was the FA Cup final...

21:22Final? Semi-final. Villa Park sent off for a stamp on Gareth Southgate. Yeah, and he deserved it. You still get red. Are you going to comment on all of them? The second one. You always say the defenders never be on your back. You always be on your feet. The second one. Second one. 1995, August 28th, early in the season, Blackburn at Ewood Park dismissed in an ill-tempered match. I was unlucky with that one. No, I was. That was two yellow cards. The second one was for diving. When I was second on for, I think it was a penalty. You dived. I didn't dive, that's my point. Third one. The third one.

21:56The premiership versus Middlesbrough at Old Trafford. Keane continued to be dogged by a red mist and he was sent off for a third time in six months. Yeah, that was a bit silly. Fjord, remember the striker? Fjord. Yeah. Janaga. What did you do? Tried to punch him. I think we won the game. Tried to punch him, didn't you? I didn't connect with him.

22:21Fourth one, Premiership versus Southampton at the Dell. Keane was sent off again as United lose 6-3 what were you sent off for then? I played the game I played the game you were all out there you played well obviously you gave up 6 it was a kit though it was a kit so I feel like we're in court and you're reading out allegations this is his rap sheet is that 4? that's 4 the 5th one is the FA Cup semi-final at Arsenal at Villa Park where it says So Keane was somewhat unfortunate. Was that right? He sent out two bookable offences. Exactly. Overmars. He came over and tackled overmars. Overmars, yeah.

23:00I think I was covering for you again. You know. And that was Ellery. Ellery set me up four times, yeah. Did you have a bit of a beef with Ellery? A bit. He was, I think, was he a school? Was he a principal? Yes, I had a problem with Ellery. At some posh school in England. Yeah, Harrow. Is it? And he had that look over me. Yeah, he had that same with me. Irish. It was definitely looking down on me. I was thinking, no. I said to him, he'd been to the tunnel before the game. Saras can know he's going to book me. He's got me off three or four times. Like a class system thing. Definitely. Oh, definitely.

23:27He was looking down at me. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. I got the same vibe from Ellery. Thanks. Without a doubt. There you go. We were all right with Harrow work, weren't we? Yeah, Ellery, yeah. Quick, guys. 6-1. Premiership versus Newcastle at St James' Park. Keane was again dismissed for collecting two yellow cards. Yeah. I saw him losing that one. I saw that one. You proper lost it then, didn't you? Yeah, I did. Do you know what? That was more with the team as well. Our team or your team? Just so we gave away a goal towards the end. I don't know if you were playing, but Wes was poor for the goal.

23:58I was more angry at Wes. I'm sure I hope Wes was playing. You know when they wouldn't give you the ball back, one of them.

24:09When he's trying to get the ball. We're seven in. I think had anger management classes started by then. Go on, what else? The seventh, Charity Shield versus Chelsea at Wembley. I read for a reckless challenge on Gus Poirier. Was it reckless? Yeah, I enjoyed it. At that stage of the season, why are you that angry? What are you doing? This is charity shield. You know what I mean? You have to put a macro down early in the season. What part of the game was that early on in the game? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Did you win it? I'm not sure. He didn't care. What was the challenge, if you don't mind me asking?

24:41I think he was shielded and I think I just went up... I think right down the back of the calf. Oh! I saw one. Shame. Shame. Eighth, the Premiership... Premier League versus Manchester City at Old Trafford. A straight red for a disgraceful knee-high foul on Alfie Harland. I'm just reading out the description of what was on the papers at the time. Yeah, but you didn't help either. I didn't help with what? Running off to the lines, man, saying it's only a yellow. Is that true? It's true. Did you? Yeah, Gary Ranul going, it's only a yellow. So when you say that to an official, he's going, well, that must be a red.

25:21Why would you say, it's only a yellow? Don't even book me. So I'm at fault for basically your being sent off. I don't think that tackle was that bad. I really don't. I know it looks bad. You know what a player does is somersault. Yeah, but the damage is... It was knee high though, wasn't it? Yeah, but I was never going to injure him in that tackle. You can't injure a player with that type of tackle. As we know, if you play the game, you know when a fella's trying to injure a player. it's just the fact when someone does a somersault it looks kind of worse than what it was and it was a city game and it was a rubbish game and it was a bit I think we were all frustrated I think we'd just been knocked out of Europe a couple of days before it so I remember watching you walk off as well and I'd been sent off you know I got injured I'd done my cruise ship up at Leeds and people tend to forget against him well like obviously I tried to trip him and again players he was stood over me when I'd done my cruise ship it was a bad injury and he was saying some nasty things when I was injured and I just thought but obviously we'll meet again.

26:17What's the ninth? Because, like, Tom Parsons... No, no, no. This is going to have to be an extended episode. We're at ninth. We're at ninth. 2001, Premier League, Newcastle at St James' Park, dismissed for a second successive season at St James' Park for throwing the ball at Alan Shearer. He then made an attempt to lash out at the striker as he made his way off the field. I thought that was the one we were talking about earlier. No, no, the one early was for two yellow cards. Oh, right. That was the one I was angry with. You forgot one? Right. I forgot. There's Porto as well. So there is more than seven.

26:48Tenth. Remember you said there's no way for 18. Remember you said that. Go on. It's definitely not 13. Sent off by Uriah Reni in injury time of the one-all draw after elbowing Jason McAteer following a number of heated exchanges throughout the game. Yeah. You got that one? Yeah, but I should have. OK. He deserved that. Jason McKenzie. He was your Irish teammate, colleague. Yeah, I was just thinking that. I wouldn't go that far. Were you mates or not? Absolutely not. Just because you play with somebody doesn't mean you're mates. Yeah, but in the national level... Do you know what? What you used to get to meet players, players who shout their moats off.

27:22I didn't mind lads kicking me up, booting me. Honestly, McIntyre as usual had plenty to say for himself. But I didn't deserve to be sent off in that game. Absolutely not. If you ever look back at it, I didn't even catch him.

27:3811th, February 25th, 2003, Champions League versus Porto. Stadio de Dragao with his side trailing 2-1 in the first leg of the first knockout round the Red Mist descended for Keane again sorry I'm not trying to antagonise you but it's just the reports it's sounding like you're enjoying it brilliant with four minutes remaining the Irishman needlessly trod on the poor goalkeeper Victor Bailly as he tried to chase down a loose ball I think I remember that one I think I was playing yeah I felt bad after that one that is letting the team down Gail, what's happened? When he's going, obviously he's a captain, why are you feeling because you're seeing him?

28:16Like, what's wrong with him? Can you say something to him when you get in the dressing room? Did you say anything? Did any of you lot say anything? Truthfully right. No, no, listen, I couldn't take criticism, but any time lads come in or the manager come in, I would be feeling bad, don't worry. I wouldn't be sitting there going, like, relaxed about it. So I think the players would recognise when someone's feeling bad and going, no point in going there. Did you apologise? I'm not sure. I must have apologised once or twice. The manager would say something like, what the hell, if he thought it was like a needless send-off like me at Tottenham against Gillian-Eller, it was stupid.

28:48I mean, I was already on a booking and I went for him a second time. Gary, what the fucking hell are you playing that song? That's what you'd get. And that would be it, you know what I mean? Or the guilt would be kicking in. You're right. Yeah, it's massive guilt. I mean, you feel terrible. Yeah, sometimes the fact, sometimes when the manager used to come in and say nothing to you, that's really worse. He'd just look at you with disgust The thing is, back then, there's not the WhatsApp group where you get home and write a big, long message of apologies. Is that what happens? Yeah, sometimes I think you get that on the night.

29:17You get home and you're like, oh, look, I'm really sorry. No players ever either come in and had a go at me, to be fair. No, but I don't think they had a go at other players. We never could have a go. Even when Eric kicked the fan, none of us ever came in after the game. Eric, you're a bit off of order. Did you know what happened that night when Eric kicked the fan? Yeah. In real time? Yeah. Yeah. Because he was just being substituted. Yeah, and again, we talk about anger and the emotion, and that's why we all played the game. And Eric was obviously being sent off, hadn't he? Yeah. And he's worn off, and that happens.

29:48In the moment, that's the last thing. This is what I'm saying. I can't even compute why I've done that to the referees. Yeah. When you're going off, and then all of a sudden, he shouts what he shouts, that's it. Was the 18 ,000 fine? Was that the damage to the referees' room, or your wage? I just keep picturing them with this little portable PB. You know what, at the time I was trying to figure with my agents, I wanted to pay them, I wanted to pay them in pound coins, 18 ,000 pound coins, because you have to pay it yourself out of your own account, and they want it, and I was desperate to do it, but at the time the manager I was with, he said, you can't do that.

30:22I was so angry, I could not get over the anger of that one. OK, so going back to Roy, we can't... I got sent off once for Ireland. So there you go, that's 12. And we think there's 13, but we've only got... I told you we've only got 12 at the moment. Yeah, it's not 13.

30:40One of the most sort of incredible things that I've heard you say since you left, and you've not done many interviews, was around that a couple of players had said that they didn't want to be captain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was... We always talk about leadership, don't we, at Manchester United? Where are the leaders? Where are the people who have sort of got... And I'm trying to get into a situation whereby, how do you get to a point in your career as a football player where you don't think it's a good idea to take the captaincy of one of the greatest clubs in the world? But that wasn't... No-one said no to be the club captain.

31:14It was just in certain games. So they said, I don't want to be captain for this match. But they didn't want to say it themselves. They've got other people coming up to me and saying that. So they're representatives? Eh? No, they're... No, some other coaches. The lads, our coaches. As you do, you don't go up to the manager, do you? yourself you get someone else to do it for you so it's a bit disappear you don't we didn't know it's it's a different generation and it is a complete what do you think erasians ed jenzy you know what do you think when they when they've done that only and then someone comes up what's your initial reaction to no he's like he actually doesn't want to get yeah it's one it's petty to it's like it makes me feel a bit worried for them in the sense that what state of mind are they in to actually turn down on the greatest sort of accolades that you can possibly have and actually I don't think of it as being or that they're weak or that I think they must be really in a bad place to actually be shrinking almost in to bottle it but the thing is some it's strange and I don't think we would understand but so many players or many players said no to do the pre-match interview so you you had always the go to three questions I mean yeah the three questions I mean but yeah you have the go-to's yeah Bruno always did it Harry always did it Victor did it Scott dominated it yeah David did it yeah Luke Shaw did it so you have the same but the other half worried about the questions before so I prefer not to do it it's like Oli do you think that is them as individuals or just the negativity around actually it's Manchester United everything I say everyone picks up on it they're actually scared of criticism it's a bit of both it's a bit of both because you're scared of the whole reaction maybe and you understand players their mental health some of them have dealt with more mental health problems in staff and players than could be I couldn't say anything about that here imagine a young kid and then you're getting the captaincy of Man United it's a dream come true It's really sad that that's where the game had gone to.

33:23Scared to take it, I suppose. Surely that's got to be part of the recruitment. You find out what you're dealing with in a player. Especially if you're going to sign for United, and a club of that stature, you've got to have a player. Any player, you don't know, could maybe have the character to end up in the personality to be a captain. That's what that character comes into when you're playing for the big clubs. is that bit of character. Again, I always talk about wanting the ball when you've got 70, 80 toes and when you're losing a home. To me, that's bravery. That's where the character comes in.

33:53Because all these players, they're certainly talented. We've seen them at the big clubs, but it's just the bit underneath that is that personality. You know what you're talking about? Maybe mental health problems as well. It's not just mentality as a footballer. I mean, I'm just thinking of ourselves here. Obviously, we do big Manchester United games. You're the manager. We're giving big opinions. I mean, and probably we say things and probably don't realise the effect maybe it has on players and certainly social media. I mean, how are we, you or the dressing room of things, getting picked up by Wysayne?

34:22And do you think that does affect players? Definitely, 100%. You know, obviously when you criticise players or teams, tactics or talent, but when it goes above that, it is because there's so many around who watch this, listen to this, and then they're on their social media, on their Twitter and all this. And, yeah, they write and they put... If they don't read it or hear it, friends, agents, managers, even here, you can't even turn up here without agents and managers. Some of you, I don't know who... LAUGHTER LAUGHTER There's no one else here. Is it when it goes away from sort of tactical games?

35:11When it goes about person, person, character. If we said someone was lazy or... But laziness, that's... Lack of the leadership. There's... I think they listen and think about it more than we... Than you think.

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36:23Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

36:31Wrong! Wrong!

36:37I think there's nothing more.

36:44You're going to fix the main... Ruggies first trophy. Oh my word. Is that it? That's it! Come on! Oh, I'm lucky. Campeone, Campeone, ole, ole. We didn't say the hands. Yes. We didn't say the hands. Come on, sorry. Humberland victory in the field. All the best. All the best next year. All the best next year. And righty. You were on there as well, pal. Yeah, I didn't want to say myself. I didn't want to say myself. Yeah, yeah. We were saving that. I didn't want to say myself. All on there. Right, a replay of him saying Lampard. Can you send it through? I don't believe he said Lampard. I don't believe he said Lampard.

37:23That was one of them. I said Lampard. I said Lampard. Off straight away. Actually, I'm not sure I said that. Hey! Oh! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Come on, gentlemen. Don't move from there. Do you know what I'm saying? Gentlemen, who's taking it home first? I think Roach, he's the captain. He's the captain. Fantastic. Fantastic. Great quizzing. Just went at the end, though, though. Just went at the end. They had us. They had us the round before, I think, Pad. I'm not. You're like Arsenal. You just ran out of steam. Do injuries. You know what I mean? I've got the suspension. I've already mentioned it at Arsenal like that.

37:57Why would we turn to each other? Well, congratulations on being the winners of the first-time best football cup. Said it, Gary. Well done, lads. I'm 50 % sure I said it. Are you going to let that go or what? At least they're not competitive. That's the main thing. They've settled down a lot since they've retired. Not competitive in the slightest. Look at that. Fantastic.

38:24Ian? Yes. I'm going to start with you. Okay. Who is your secret Santa present to be gifted to? Jill Scott. Okay. Easy. Should I give it to her now? Perfume. It has to be. Yes. And the criteria was that it had to be under 20 pounds. Yeah. The only thing you can buy a woman is perfume. There you go, Jill. Thank you so much. Thank you. Did you actually go and buy this? Yes. Went and sorted that. You've wrapped it and everything. I haven't even wrapped mine. Have a look at it. It's called Snuggsy. Who the hell's that? Look, show it, show it.

39:02Is it a dick? It is. Take it out. Yeah, it is. Take it out so we can see what it is. That's so lovely. It is. Little Teddy. To be fair, when I see you, I give all these a cuddle and you never give us a hug. So now I can give you a hug. At home. I'm not... That's not my scene. Oh! Yeah. Are you happy, Jim? Yeah. I'm going to... I'll make sure I use the eyes as well. Look how weird. Thank you so much. You like that, didn't you? Oh. It's nice. It's expensive. The only time I'll be going to bed. 20 quid. I want to know where the facial's from. He's just got that text off my tail. No, no, no. The only time I'll be going to bed with a dick.

39:49No.

39:54LAUGHTER

39:58Oh, my God, Jill! You could have said big! LAUGHTER

40:06Thank you. Oh, my God, that's the end of the episode. That's it. We finished. That's it. We smashed it. We've completed podcasts.

40:26We'll be right back.