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2:18I saved it onto the post, hit me in the back of the head and went in. in the back page of the newspaper the next day, Shea Given, own goal, hands Everton three points. You should never get beat at your near post. Well, I think that's... What kind of... does Jamie talk? He goes, he should be set like this. And I'm at home watching this, he goes, no, we shouldn't. Ederson, for example, for me, is probably the best goal. He's a freak, isn't he? Everton play with the ball at his feet. I respect what Arsenal do a lot, but I do think it's gone over the sort of cusp of a lot of its fouls. If a plan's coming, you know, you've got a set-piece coach, it's going to be on the first one or the second one.

2:53Why do you think that is? Because you want to score as soon as possible. I'll tell you. Maybe. But players forget. Yeah, they do. If a manager's under pressure at all, you go out to the car and you stick the trumpet in the window of the training ground and play the last post.

3:11Hello and welcome back to the Fan Debate brought to you by Skybet. Our fans are here with us as usual and I'm delighted to be joined again by Shea Given. so welcome back to the show and let's crack on with today's episode so we've got Shea on so it's obvious we're going to look at goalkeepers broad question for you to start with what do you make of modern day goalkeeping compared to when you were playing? Well I don't think the game's changed that much in the sense the job of a goalkeeper is to keep the ball in the net I think that's I think maybe the modern game has sometimes gone away from that side of things but I think if you ask most fans and maybe we can ask the fans what would you want?

3:50Someone who's good with the ball at their feet or someone who's really good at keeping the ball at the net? I think first and foremost for me that's the first thing you look at how good a goalkeeper is and how good is he stopping the ball hitting the back of the net? I mean we're the last line of defence you guys are supposed to stop before it gets to us but if all else fails we normally pull you out of the SHIT so yeah I mean I do believe that recruitment and stuff have to look at the basis of goalkeeping as much as the ball distribution and comfortable with the ball. So it sounds, listening to you there, there's almost like a little bit of a frustration a little bit.

4:26Do you think teams now are looking almost for the wrong things in terms of what they look for in a goalkeeper? Well, possibly. What's the wrong thing? I think it's part and parcel. The game has changed a lot for the goalkeeper. I know probably when I played, the goalkeepers were sent over to a corner and trained on their own. joining the game situation whereas I know now when they're training the goalkeepers are involved in positions they're involved in obviously team build up big time and one of the main positions in the team build up is the goalkeeper you know I think Pep Guardiola has a lot to do with that and the way he's sort of changed the game and goalkeepers have to come up to that level with the ball to their feet now so but again I think sometimes I do get frustrated because I look at the position of opposition teams high press on the team and the goalkeeper still plays it to the centre half or to the number six and it's you know a team or all of them you can't play in that situation and the ball ends up in the back of the net and people, the only thing I do for the starter keeper is because the managers actually tell them to give it to the number six even if there's someone on them, they play out but at the same time, you as a goalkeeper you're in that pressurised situation you're in that position and if it does end up in the back of the net everyone looks at the goalkeeper why are you giving it to him there when he's pressing high the opposition are pressing high so I think you have to live that position and at times you have to miss out the press and the opposition maybe drop off and then there's a time to play so you have to read the game and how it pans out but the goalkeeping has changed a lot Jamie over the years but I still think we should not ever get away from the fact that your job is to keep the ball out of the net Some stats here to look at So in 2006-07 goalkeepers only made 12.4 % short passes in the Premier League This season that has jumped to 48.2 % So basically almost half the time they're on the ball they go for a short pass rather than a long pass Now, I'm more with you, but I don't like when I hear people just saying, oh, he's just smashing up the pit, just smashing up the pit.

6:26No, no. But talking about the top managers in the world, they know what to do. And so they're asking goalkeepers to do a certain thing, not just for the goalkeeper, but the way the team play. But I actually think this obsession with a goalkeeper has to be good with the ball. I just think he has to be competent for me. Because, I mean, what passes does he actually make? That's what I look at. he's basically getting it from there and he's playing maybe a 10 yard pass there I think a big thing is almost actually is coolness, is calmness a little bit to not panic because what you're actually asking him to do is not amazing passes it's just not actually smashing up the pitch when there's a pass on there do you understand what I mean?

7:04Well again he needs options as well when the ball's coming back to him so you talk about team shape and how you're set up and the full backs and the centre halves and the midfielders you know Ederson for example for me he's probably arguably the best goalkeeper he's a freak isn't he Everett play with the ball at his feet. It's like a top midfielder playing in goals. Do you know what I mean? So that's the level everyone thinks they're in Edison. You can go down the division sometimes and they're playing out on a shitty pitch and they're bobbling around. And it's like, what are you doing? You're not Edison.

7:29But I agree what you're saying is if a goalkeeper is decent with the ball at his feet, he doesn't have to be absolutely unbelievable. But it's up to his teammates to give him options on the ball. And again, it's up to him to make that the right decision. Do I give it to the centre half? Do I miss out the press and drop it into the number nine? or whatever it might be. But he's in field, he's in that position. But it's important that he makes the right decision because it comes down to decision-making as much as anything. Is it the right time to play or not? Risk and reward, we talked about it before.

7:57Risk and reward. The risk of playing out from the back, is the reward greater? You play against the Man City and sometimes they press you out of the pitch and you've just got to give it back to them. You've got to do a defensive shape again. But can you risk if he can break through that press and get out? Because you know, for example, Man City's full-backs are pressed high. there's space down the side of the centre half if we can play into midfield there's lots of different opportunities to attack The pass I get frustrated with that goalkeepers make is the one into midfield now they're obviously under instruction and the reason being they make that pass is because we have a lot of man-to-man marking now in the game and the spare man is obviously the goalkeeper and it's about okay if he can just get it in there and he can bounce out there right without but the thing with a goalkeeper and no disrespect it's not just the pass you've got to assess where's the pressure coming from so you've got to play to a certain side so I've got someone pressed from here it's got to be to his right foot now we're coached that a lot as kids you know pace on your pass the weight of the pass put the rights goalkeepers aren't as much I think they are now yeah they are now but in terms of like that passing I had almost not ban it but it's like that for me is the killer and I always think for the opposition I always think now if I was a manager what would be a great chance of us scoring a goal?

9:15And I'd be thinking when a goalkeeper plays through the middle of the pitch I think that is such an opportunity to think forget all the building up ourselves we can win the ball there right in front of the goal. Because what happens in that situation your two centre-halves are split two full-backs are wide and high and if a number six gives it away the defensive shape or unit is all over the shop isn't it? And it's a great you make a great point it's a great time to go to the heart of the opposition team again but the way to pass whatever side he's getting pressed all these different messages you're giving him but you're giving him that sort of message with the way to pass you're giving it to him if you're drilling it into his feet that message is you've got time to take a touch and maybe even turn or what if it's like a slow one you're thinking you're nearly telling him go to the right back or the left back you're giving him a message with the pass and the way to pass as well so there's a lot to it than just give it in to the number six and see what he does with it but if the number six gives it away and ends up in the back of your net what frustrates me from a goalkeeper point of view is what's the goalkeeper doing given it to him there which winds me up because they've been coached all week the goalkeeper's going to start the attack because obviously it's a goal kick he gives it to number six he passes it out to full back passes it back to centre or spins it around the corner to one of the attacking players they've done that all week but if it's in a match day and it gives it away it's the goalkeeper's fault which I totally disagree with No, I'm with you You've been a coach at Derby what was your sort of coaching sessions were you sort of saying okay maybe I don't agree with everything think in terms of playing out from the back, but would you almost feel as a coach, well this is the way the game's going, so I've almost got a coach like that or would you say no, I'm doing what I think is?

10:48I think a bit of both, I think you know, obviously Frank Lampert was the manager at the time first year and if Frank wants to play out from the back, we have to be involved in the build-up, both for the team and individual stuff that I would do with the goalkeepers, but I'd always say to the keepers like, yes Frank wants you to play this way or Cocker or Wayne Rene, that's the three guys that are in charge of they want you to play a certain way but you're the person in that position you've got to feel it as I said at the very start you've got to read the situation and if there's too much pressure or whatever if you miss out the press and go along and yeah we might lose the ball but at the same time I'd rather you lose it in the opposition half than overplay in your own half and it's in the back of our net you've always got a chance of defending you know worst case if you go along at that stage but again if the manager's not at last resort we go along I want you to play play and play and it ends up in the back of the net I'll go to Frank and say well you've said this is you know me so I'm coaching the keeper to do that you've told him do this all week and if the defender or the number six gives it away then I'm not really sure we can have a go with the goalkeeper If you were giving one key piece of advice to goalkeepers coming through up the ranks now what would it be?

11:57Probably a calmness I think when you cross the white line I think it's important that the goalkeeper brings some sort of calmness to it all and I do I'm not contradicting what I used to play as but I used to shout a lot and organise and I don't mean don't do that I mean when you're in possession of the ball when you're you mentioned it yourself before if the calmness sort of if you calm as a goalkeeper with both of you know shot stopping or crossing or balls your feet whatever it is I think that calmness spreads through the team if you're very frantic everything's frantic the ball's coming back to you and the crowd are up and it's all a bit nervy and everyone's going play let it go back to the keeper and we'll press the life of them and it has the opposite effect both on the team and your own fans and in the stadium.

12:35So I think calmness is one of the biggest things I think I look for in a goalkeeper. How calm, how assured he looks when he's playing. OK, Cher, I want to ask you about penalties. How much does it look, the skill? You saved 12 penalties in your career. How did you prepare? Probably asking the wrong man when it comes to penalties. That's not very good, is it? It's madly because you... You saved 12, is that not good? I don't think that's very good, no. I don't think that would be good. How many? Yeah, it depends how many. 4 ,000 penalties. I don't know. I mean, I had different things, you know, not successful.

13:10Obviously, I didn't think I was poor on penalties. I think some things overanalyzed the opposition taken. I remember a time at Old Trafford once we played Man United away and Rooney was the penalty taker and his last three went to the keeper's right and I'm sort of saying to the goalie coach, Bobby Robson, who's the manager, I'm saying to the gaffer, I'm saying like, well, he's going to change his mind eventually and go to the left. And Bobby's like, no, I want you to go to the right. well this is the penalty I've shown them so in your head it's registering in your brain he's gone right he's gone right but at some point anyway long story short the goalkeeping coach says well this is the match we're going to go right and obviously invariable they get a penalty at Old Trafford which they seem to do every week at that stage and Rooney steps up and of course Rooney goes to my left and I dive to my right so again you can nearly do too much I find that fascinating not so much the preparation but actually Bobby Robson the manager I can understand the goalkeeper coach you and him looking at it But Bobby Robson was adamant which way you should go as well.

14:03Because of his previous three penalties. And I was saying, well, all great penalty takers do that. They change, they mix it up even one week to the next. So again, I was frustrated at that because I kind of felt like I should maybe be more in the moment and be more instinctive in the situation. But I didn't have a great record, if I'm being honest. What's the most important factor in making a great save? Is it reactions, positioning? I think it's probably about everything. I think if your position is wrong, you've got no chance. I think position is a big part of it. Positioning and the goal. You know, some goalkeepers you see, like Emmanuel Neuer, for example, would be very deep on his line.

14:41And then maybe like, I'm trying to think of a goalkeeper now, a modern day keeper would be further out, four or five yards out. But the game's changed over the years as well. He used to be quite advanced, five or six yards out, making saves. And now you'd see maybe David Reyes, probably a similar height to me, as in like be a bit deeper, give him more reaction time to move his feet across the goal, things like that. So I think goalkeepers are coached a lot more and analysed. And I know they've got different analysed and different positions. They've got goalkeeping analysts and the goalkeeping analysts would analyse the opposition.

15:11For example, next week you play Arsenal. They would analyse the forward players from Arsenal and see what they like mostly. And you'd build your training session leading up to Arsenal with regards to their strikers and how they like to play. You said there about positions, goalkeepers take off. And a lot of that would come down to how you were coached as a youngster. As players, we always have in our head about what an Italian team would be like, or maybe strong defensively, or a Spanish team would have lots of little midfield players passing the ball. In terms of a player's point of view, do you recognise goalkeepers from certain countries having a certain style?

15:48Maybe because of the way they were brought up. You've mentioned Neuer there. Is that a German thing? Is Raya a Spanish thing? As I just said, I never really thought about it that much, but if you take Neuer, for example, you know would he have looked at in Oliver Kahn for example because Oliver Kahn was really deep on his line as well and would he have took that from him and going this is the best way because I've got more time to react I always thought when you were so close to your line there's no error for mistake you make a mistake you know if you make a mistake four or five yards out you can still get a couple of yards to maybe get back when you're so deep on your line it's difficult but now that you mention that maybe now he's looked at Kahn and going this is the perfect sort of position within the goal to make the MCs but I don't know I don't know there's no perfect way I mean it depends I think positional sense from a goalkeeper depends on the back four where you're at on the pitch for example if you're really pressing high up on the halfway line the goalkeeper should be outside his box whereas if you're really deep then obviously you're going to be towards your own six yard box so I think it's what your team do It was funny because when we had Rafa Benitez coming at Liverpool brought a Spanish coach in with him as well and he was always a little bit negative about English football he's always questioned why we did things but listen he was a clever man he was a great manager but he'd say why are English goalkeepers all they do is like making saves like in training it's always about like jumping here and he said you're going to make five a game at the most you know he said if we can see more than five shots on target something's not right so he was more looking at the other things that they did almost not so much with the ball like positional play or when Pepe Reiner had come out he wouldn't sort of throw himself at someone he'd almost just stand there and like trying it was just a different way of sort of thinking about it were beach goals mentioned at all no no we didn't work on that that wasn't it that didn't come up at the time that was Darren Bent wasn't it I was playing that game honest to God the worst thing about that was the Liverpool fan who threw it on it wasn't even there then that's what made it worse so what did Rafa want then from the goalkeeper what did he think he should be doing more of in training what would he suggest he should do more of in training then that's why he'd sort of look at Carson I think it was Scott Carson Chris Cagland it was always the thing with English goalkeepers maybe you did it yourself I'm not saying that's wrong by the way he was just a bit like no no there's too much emphasis on actually diving about the goal there's more to goalkeeping than just and it might have been getting involved in possessions starting positions you know things like that he's got a point because you're right you make three or four maybe five maximum saves in a game whereas your decision making you have to make 50 decisions but then you have to reenact that in training because you need the back four or the ball to the top and all your distance and stuff and sometimes you don't get that time to work with outfield players as much as you want, you know, because it's probably a bit boring for them.

18:27Balls are the top making decisions. But again, Rafa's probably right in the sense that a lot of goalkeeping is about making the right decisions when they come sweeper-keeper, the modern-day goalkeeper, you know, so, yeah.

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19:29Hello and welcome back to Shot on Target brought to you by Skybet Go on let's What is it? Let's see what it is Oh! Keep a Premier League clean sheet Interesting Yes A little question before we start Just come to me I used to have this debate with the goalkeepers at Liverpool who's more important to getting a clean sheet the back four or the goalkeeper is it not the same we're not together Jamie I don't think it was the same no no I think it's we appreciate it the same no what did you say I think it's more the back four and the reason I say this right put the best back four with the worst goalkeeper or put the worst back four with the best goalkeeper who keeps most clean sheets yeah the best back four Exactly.

20:18Right, thank you. That's why I didn't keep many clean sheets in my day. It's me and you versus the fans. OK, cool. OK, so basically, we will... You spin that, and what it lands on, we've then got to guess a goalkeeper who's got that many clean sheets. Cool. You got it? Have you got a few keepers in your head? You know roughly what they got? Yeah, I don't know. That's handy. Ready then? Justin. Where's Justin? Oh, there he is. Justin. Your team captain, skipper. Justin. No pressure. No pressure. We're against all of them. So we're against all of them. I mean, look at them. Look at them. So no one, I've got one.

20:55Shall I give it a whirl? Ready? Let's go. I thought I was on one on there. I had one for one. That's one of too hard. I can't watch. I was trying to stop. Be heroic. Go on. Slow it. Oh yeah, we're slow on. Next time, just give it a little. Yeah. One, four, nine. One, four, nine. One, four, nine. Check, have. Just for context. I don't know. Somebody who's played a long time. Looking at 500 appearances.

21:28But played for a good team, though. Yeah, I tell you why. 140-odd, he's got it played for a good team. Or a long time. Liverpool. Because if you think, Edison did like sort of nine seasons. Yeah, mate, nice and subtle. He hasn't always got a bit. Yeah, what about Edison? I think he could play that. I could do something. Brad Friedle. Because he's been around a long time. He played for something. He played a lot of games. Who goes first? Those are the fans. Have you got an answer? Does it look like you've got an answer? How many appearances are you talking? Don't know. The thing is, I can see this.

22:06Right, have we got answers? Go on, Nathan, go first. I like yours. I think it's a shout, you know. Go on. You happy with that, yeah? Yeah, go on. Brad Friedle. Is that a good shout, is it? No. Tell me who yours is. Yeah, he had a really big pause there. Yeah, shall we go with that one? David James? David James? Yeah. So, I can tell you that the fans were closest. Oh, wow. Have a great day. And you died for 23 off. So what was your brother? or what was it? So David James had 1-7-2 where Brad Friedle had 1-3-2. Oh, bang on the money there. It was close. OK, yeah, all right, 1-0 to them. A little one, a little one, yeah.

23:00No, no, no, we've got to do it before. Come on. I think 16 would have been she. Yeah. You're under pressure. Please, London, two. Christ I've got one Shea given Shea given It's harsh isn't it Eleven You play behind Titus Bramble a good song I've got I've got No boom song slander Because he's got one or two for Forrest maybe and then he's I've got more than eleven Does he? Never Never Any idea? I've got Timsoness Keep back I was talking surely he's got more than Yeah Yeah, because he's got eight and nine and then he's got this quantity. Game with seven. So he's played a lot of things. Yeah. He's going to be around.

23:50He's going to be around. I don't know what happened there. He's not playing more than 20 games. We're going to go first. OK. Is that 11? Can they change the main point? We're going first. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's got no clean sheets. They'll have the Tunderland. Riffs. That's what I thought. Go this season. Tunderland's going to goalkeeper. He's gone route one, hasn't he? It's not cricket, that. You've got James Amain on the back there. We've got us locked in. I think that's a good shout-out. I reckon the person that you're saying he's got about... He's not going to tell you the answer. What's your one?

24:24Ortega. Who? Stefan Ortega. 11 clean sheets? In the Premier. Where have you got that from? Out my head. That was the 11th question. I think he's played about 20 league games for City. Last season he had quite a few. the season before he had a few he's been at Forest for a few games hasn't he yeah I love that I can tell you that you were off and they were spot on oh oh oh 11 how many have you got he's got 8 oh 11 11 surely that's bonus points spot on Ortega yeah Oh, like timing your mum's... How? There's no way you knew that. That was just pure luck. Had to be. How was it? Look, I told you it was in my head.

25:22Some shout out to be fair. That's a great shout out. Ready? We've got one more. Come on, one more. Clean sheet. We need to get a bit of our pride back. I mean, we have got a Premier League goalkeeper, aren't we, don't we? Yeah. Who doesn't know his own clean sheets. I didn't really do clean sheets. Oh, it's 149. Do we go big? I think it's more the blue one, actually. Yeah, it's the blue one. 42. 42. 42. Is it 42? 42. He's in there. He'd range, yeah. This is a gay three seasons. This is someone in a minute. I don't think go for a big one that's not got many. Maybe someone's been three seasons. Is there any?

25:58Oh, I've got a not a bad one. Four star? Yeah.

26:07He sort of had, what, how many seasons did he have? I think he'd had a lot more than 42, wouldn't he? Well, the season they won the league, we had the best defence. We kept more clean sheets than them. It's not a bad... I don't know if he's played in his game. The thing is, it's three or four seasons. Yeah, it's like a good... And also a good team. And you're not just guessing someone's got six on the wall. That'll do it. We're going to go Courtois. They heard that. I hate you. Yeah. Here we go. I actually think he's got more than that, but go on. And then... What's your guess, lads? Should we get it at you?

26:47Yeah, Anderson. Come on. Yeah? Dean Henderson. Dean Henderson. That's a tough one. We've won anyway, but you know. Oh, look at him getting it in now. Let's go on the winner. Let's go on the winner. All right. We can go plus family moves, though. All right, well, let's... We've not had that. It's a tie. Tie? It's a tie. They've both got 49 clean sheets. Wow. He's definitely been studying. You've got to think of one in 10 seconds, another one. Oh, another one for this? Let's spin again. Okay. No, we're just doing it. Okay, ready? What's that? It's 2-0 to the fans, isn't it? I'll just forget it, yeah.

27:27Yay!

27:31He's definitely studied that last night. You've got 11, Artigay. You've got a thing with me buying Owen Henderson. What? I'd stay out of it, because we've actually done this because you were here. I know, yeah. Well done to the supporters. They're finally on the board, would you believe? They got a point, finally. And we'll see you next week for another game of... Shot on time. Shot on time. Come on. End the game.

27:58Technically, we got a clean sheet there. We got a zero, didn't we? Exactly. See?

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30:13Matt you've got a question for Shea Shea I'm a goalkeeper myself I never quite reached the heights you did but I do sort of understand the emotional side of it I loved playing in goal I also hated it because I'd make worldly saves and then one mistake and I'm the villain and then the striker would have an absolute stinker score the winner and he's the hero so I hated that side that never got appreciated do you think that goalkeeper is the most important slash difficult position on the pitch? Well I'd be slightly biased I would say it's mad because it used to be years gone by it used to be the budgets was all spent on the strikers you know then midfield and then defence and if you had any money left over like you're in the bleeding ashtray looking for a goalkeeper like trying to get some change out of the ashtray you know but I think in recent times that that's changed a lot I mean, Liverpool is probably a good example when they spend, was it 70?

31:03Maybe in Alisson. Ederson came in for a big fee. You know, goalkeepers, David Raya, maybe a bit cheaper because they only get a year left at Brentford. But I think there was more emphasis now on what they spend on goalkeepers because I think there's a realisation from even the top managers. Pep Guardiola is a prime example. He spent a lot of money on goalkeepers over the years. You know, he's just spent again on a big fee on Donnarumma. How important that position is and what it means to the team. You know, if you've got someone making amazing saves and keeping you in games. You know, it's a huge part of it.

31:33We always say the hardest part of football, I think, is keeping the ball out, but also scoring at the other side. If you've got them positions right, then you've got half a chance. What was the other question about the psychology of it? Yeah, no, I was just like, because there's no margin for error whatsoever. Yeah, no. That's the position. You can always make a mistake in every other position and sort of get away with it, but you can't make a mistake. I remember saving, I'm talking about penalties, I remember saving a penalty once at Everton, and I saved it onto the post, hit me in the back of the head and went in and Everton won 1-0.

32:02In the back page of the newspaper the next day, Shea given own goal, hands Everton three points. And there was no, it was like you're reading it and you're thinking he must have just got the ball and kicked it into the net. Like that's how bad the headline was, you know, but it's frustrating because you do so many good things, you're right, and so many positive things. You could be man of the match and you could even get the award in the 92nd minute, concede a shocker and lose your team two points or something and it's like, how's he got man of the match? you should never be a goalie and the thing that gets me as well sometimes is like my granny would have saved that or like what's he doing like you know there's so many things that can happen and Monday Night Football and they're talking about the goalkeeper and stuff you know things happen so quick you know bodies move across and you're leaning one way to try and get a look at it and it comes that way and you know it goes two yards inside the post and Jamie's on Monday Night it's two yards inside the post I'm looking at my keeper what's he doing but he's actually lent the right to try and get a look at it because players have gone past and then the balls come there's so much that happens in front of it before it actually gets to the goalkeeper making a save so it's a very frustrating position because you watch back some people talking about it who've not played the position and I don't mean disrespectful because I talk about a few players as well but I'm just saying it's a very difficult position because there's no room for error there's no one to bail you out you make a mistake in midfield the centre half to bail you out but there's no one nine times out of ten there's no one that can bail you out when you make a mistake and again then it's about the psychology how do you react that could happen in the first minute I remember once at Chelsea Chelsea won the league I think it was and we played in the next season and I was brilliant in pre-season flying five minutes into the game live on Sky because they always show the winners you know the first game of the season I think Bo Zenden had a shot I was thinking about like distribution it was from a corner and I went to like I was thinking about where I was going to do that ball went straight through my legs went into the net live on Sky I don't know how many people were watching that game but a lot of people millions of people watching first game of the season but I had 85 plus minutes to sort of keep clear my head and try and and that's a big thing as well because mistakes do happen.

33:59It's how you manage the next 85 minutes of that game. We managed to get a one-all draw but again the good thing from my point of view is yes it was a terrible mistake but at the same time I didn't make a second mistake or a third mistake. You have to park it till after the game and then deal with it then. When you were on the pitch and you witnessed the opposing keeper make a mistake or concede something that he should have saved do you, as much as you're buzzing that your team have scored do you also have sympathy for the goalkeeper? I think you do, yeah. But at the same time, it's a team sport.

34:29It's about winning, isn't it? You know, that's the biggest thing. You know, people always say, would you rather keep a clean sheet or 1-5-4? My answer is 1-5-4. It's about a team. I'm not an individual golfer or tennis player. I'm part of a team. And the most important thing is the team to win. So you do feel obviously sorry for the opposition goalkeeper, but the most important thing is you want to win. Yeah. Alice, you've got a question. Yeah. How important is a goalkeeper's voice in organising a defence? and is it harder to be vocal behind bigger personalities? Well, that's a really good point.

35:00And I don't know if it's just the way it's brought up, but I was always a screamer and a shouter and I'd always organise things before it happened, you know. Probably taking it back to my Irish debut for Republic of Ireland. I was 19 at the time when I made my debut and I was getting changed next to Roy Keane and Paul McGrath and these guys were my heroes growing up, you know. And then the next thing, I'm shouting and screaming at them on the pitch and I don't know what they thought that day. but I was 19, I was a kid, I was only just starting out really in football and these are experienced. Paul McGraw won PFA Player of the Year, Roy Keane's a brilliant player and I was screaming at them what they do and where they go and stuff but that's just the person I was.

35:38But you make a really good point elsewhere because I've coached goalkeepers and they're so quiet in the goal and it's not a good help for the defenders and people in front of them. You can organise and move people around because you can see the whole picture and I think sometimes that's overlooked. We talk about the ball with your feet and shot stopping and crosses and decision making. But if you can tell a centre half or a full-back to tuck in or go left a couple of yards or right and stop at its source, that's part of your game. You have to be so vocal and it's a huge part of the game. James?

36:09Yeah, and this isn't aimed at Jamie in the slightest, obviously. I think it might be. what is the thing that pundits and fans as well what's the most common thing that they get wrong about your position like you should never get beat at your near post well I think that's bollocks if somebody flashes it in that's bollocks what kind of bollocks does Jamie talk

36:36I don't think you know people are giving their honest opinion on the thing but it's difficult when you've not played in that position you know it's difficult because I mentioned before about balls moving and people moving in front of you and stuff and I agree with the near post one I think it's a cheap sort of get out for experts in inverted commas when it comes to goalkeeping because your job as a goalkeeper is to be if it's shots on the angle is to be in the middle between two posts and as you say if a guy hits a rocket or whatever in the near post the same as a rocket there's no real difference to it you know the pace you've been beaten by pace you know it's easier for me to stand holding on to the near post and leaving the whole goal that side and he hits it in but like I don't get accused of getting baited at the near post because it's gone in two yards inside the other post so I do agree it doesn't frustrate me I just sometimes you know there's a lot of young goalkeepers watching it Gary was on one Monday this is years ago so you know Gary will probably take it back but he was standing and the goalkeepers like he stands because I guess he shouldn't be he should be coming out like this he should be set he should be set like this and I'm at home watching this and I go no he shouldn't he shouldn't be set like that you know me but obviously Gary's a big voice in football and you just hope the young kids don't look at it and go, well, I'm coming out next week, like I said.

37:45Because his hands were in a totally wrong position, you know. But at the same time, I gave my opinion on defending and forward. And so, you know, people would say I might not be the best when it comes to strike. But I was a top goal scorer from my school, I might add, Jamie. Yes, we all were. But it's interesting what you're saying, and you're right. And I listen to yourself, Joe Hart, Rob Green does stuff on another channel I work on as well. I'm always excited. I want to know more. I want to give the best information. but what I would say I look at goals and what I probably wouldn't know is the reason why exactly to the detail that you obviously know of course but you know sometimes just through watching football you look at something and you're just thinking I don't know what the mistake is but that doesn't look right I've watched enough football where I think that's not right it might be his feet or it might be this it's like only because the last one I can remember and I was doing the commentary and when you're commentating you've got to give not so much your opinion you explain what's happened that second you're not having two or three looks at it you've just got to so Liverpool scored a free kick against Tottenham a few weeks ago I don't know what Vicario was doing wrong but I know it's a mistake it's not right the ball should not go in the goal there do you understand what I mean and I didn't have enough angles to look at it and what was it that but it's just like so I went I sort of said that should not go in that is a massive mistake by the goalkeeper but the point I'm trying to make is you're right we don't have the expertise you have but the only thing I can sometimes go off is watching football for 40 years and just looking at things and thinking that doesn't look that doesn't look right the way it's got in I think I agree with that goal he should save it Vicario was there he's three yards inside the post he's not strong enough so I think you're right in that situation but again you know we do get it wrong goalkeepers make mistakes and it's difficult to keep everything out of the net, but sometimes it does frustrate me when it's...

39:40Gary. No, no, no. I suppose, I don't know if it's the right word, it's in lack of respect sometimes for the goalkeepers. Lack of knowledge? Not even lack of knowledge. I think sometimes, you know, if we save it, you're expected to save it. And if it goes in, what's the keeper doing? So, you know, we're working our socks off every single day and flying around the goal, doing all these different things, working so hard for someone who's not played in the position. Then they go, not sure about that, like you just said, which I think you're right with that goal but a lot of the goals especially at the Premier League at the level some of the goals the goalkeeper's got no chance really doesn't there's some brilliant players in there so it's frustrating sometimes when goalkeepers don't get enough credit I think Luke, your question?

40:19I've got two actually one is you're only allowed one how many Premier League teams now out of 20 would a prime Shea give and start for? Oh and the second one is how do you manage the box like obviously corners are a hot topic at the moment how would you kind of like the physicality of it how would you manage that? Well I'll start with the four I'll go 20 probably 20 yeah I only say that because I think as a goalkeeper you have to back yourself no matter what I think that's part of the psychology you know you have to cross the white line and go alright I'm the best person for this position for this job even if all the people think differently I think that's my psychology always has been always will be you know you have to have that belief in yourself or there's no point in crossing the white line and the second part is a really valid point because I think, I mean Arsenal are a good example they feel like they're getting away with a lot of foils when it comes to set plays and different things and part of me thinks it's really clever because for the third year at Derby I was a coach I was a set play coach and the number of instructions I had to give different players at different times you know, Jimmy you bump into him you knock him over you run the air post to clear space around the back all these different things and it only takes one player to switch off but also so I respect what Arsenal do a lot because I was doing that for a full year and I think it's brilliant what they do but I do think it's gone over the sort of cusp of a lot of it's fouls a lot of it shouldn't be but it's difficult for the officials as well I don't know what your take is but it's like there's so much going on there's so many fouls and different things and the other thing is I think goalkeepers at times are not getting protected and I don't want to sound like a downer you can't touch the goalkeepers because I've heard that on TV as well and that winds me up as well but for example I don't remember the goal at Newcastle this year when Pope came out I think it was Gabriel scored an injury time big goal obviously in the Premier League as well well Saliba literally just went across and literally made no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and blocked off Pope from getting to the ball now for me you could argue there's not enough in it because he's just walked across and it's up to Pope to be stronger but Saliba knows exactly what he's doing there his job is to walk casually as if he's doing nothing wrong just walking into his space but you know the set play coach has told Saliba to walk across Pope at the right moment don't make it look like a foul but it's obstruction it's obstructing Pope getting the ball and Gabriel's one of the best headers in the Premier League at going and attacking so I think we've gone a wee bit too far with letting things go I think it's got to come back a wee bit I agree sorry for jumping in Luke I agree with that I that's just one example the one where I really got it was a Monday night football game Man United it was the Lambens Man United against Everton and it was just it was more that like it's the Premier League it's going out across the world and you're seeing like we do it on Monday Night Football we actually count how many players are in the six yard box and you're getting up to like 16, 17, 18 players in the six yard box and it's like it's just it's a terrible look and I understand managers will go well I don't care it's about if I can get a goal there you know lives are depending on this I get that but it's a terrible look for football just all this wrestling in the box and all these blocking the goal and I just think referees now as soon as that happens and there's that many people in the six yard box and I don't think you can have a real week and say oh so many can go in I just think a referee has got to judge a situation and go oh listen just blow give a foul and we'll go we'll go on with the game that way and I think the more often teams are almost wasting a corner by giving a so the ball as soon as the ball comes in no there's too much going on foul I think eventually we'll go hang on we're not gaining anything from this because we're getting fouls just okay let's do it because what I'm seeing now it's like wrestling in the six half I'm thinking the Premier League the elite of football I'm seeing it's just like for me it's embarrassing What I would say on the back as you're purely me said play coach I think opposition teams should do more you know defending wise we see the same sort of set up every weekend for example Arsenal are the best and you've got to give them credit for that as they load up the back and they can fly in across a zone but opposition teams have to try something different leave them maybe three up front so they have to invariably take more bodies I think Regine did that against Arsenal didn't he?

44:24I think three Villa did it a couple of times this season so Arsenal have three or four back to try to defend against that so what that does do it leaves more space you could say it leaves more space for Gabriel and Seagull to go and attack which it does but actually leaves more space for the defender to go and hit it it leaves more space for the goalkeeper to come and deal with it because at the minute as you say there's like what 18 players in the six yard box it's just it's carnage isn't it yeah can I ask a quick question what does this mean when the corner tiger is doing that the players don't know nothing seriously no it's a signal it'll be a signal so every week they'll change different so one handle up one day they'll pull their socks up whatever it might be oh really yeah but I mean Brentford we played actually at Derby when it was at Derby Brentford were amazing at different things they used to stride on colours and numbers and everything and people like the manager next to me what does that mean I ain't got a clue it's like orange like seven or something and then it gets the message to the thing but it's just they're different what I would say is on set pieces everyone go into a game with a set piece a plan normally a corner because you know you're going to get a corner and I always I always look because the idea for the corner will always be done in the first two it won't be something that's done in the second half it will always be done in the first two the reason being you might not get another corner the game might be gone or you might be miles ahead there's no point using the corner so I always watch and I've always said this if a plan's coming you know you've got a set piece coach it's going to be on the first one or the second one sometimes don't do the first one and we'll try and kid them because we'll get the second.

45:56So you'll probably get two in the game. But someone's idea on a corner will always be... And what's the reason why? Why do you think that is? Because you want to score as soon as possible. I'll tell you. Maybe. The fucking players forget. Yeah, they do. Yeah. That's true. They forget. That's true. You know, you have all these ideas and all these plans. It's like the first corner. They can't even remember what corner it is or we'll do it in the second half. Do it first. And I think I always see and I get frustrated a bit. when I see teams doing set-piece routines in pre-season, why would you give it away?

46:27It doesn't mean nothing. If you've scored from a corner in pre-season, you've done a little stupid. And I also think when you win it, say the game's won 3-4-0, or you're getting beat 3-4-0, don't put one of your routines in. Don't do it. Don't give it away. It's a waste of time, the game's all. If there's 15, 20 minutes, leave it. Do it at the next game when it can actually mean something. No point scoring a goal from a set-piece. You're getting beat 3-0. it was like 10 minutes to go. Do you understand what I mean? But these are my little thoughts of ever going to coach anything.

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48:54Kai, so you spoke about the day-to-day and game-to-game analysis at club level. I just wanted to know what the difference was when it came at international level. Is it still the same detail? Or is there any differences for your preparation as a goalkeeper when it came to going away? Probably similar if I'm being honest. The problem with the goalkeeping coach and the manager sportsman international is they don't see the players. I mean, the England players for example won't see the Celtic Celtic to the World Cup. which is crazy because so much can happen injuries and what have you but I think from a preparation point of view I don't think a lot changes really you're preparing for the same sort of stuff obviously the only thing about the World Cup coming up in the summer will be a lot of opposition maybe you don't know for example opposition strikers you'd have to watch a lot more videos whereas the Premier League you'd be used to all the main players in the Premier League whereas Japan or whatever or teams that you might come across Mexico and stuff that will be the thing when it comes to major finals is you have to do more analytical work on what's in opposition and what their strengths are, you know, what they like maybe from different sort of situations.

49:55And as a goalkeeper, you know, how do you defend or set up against that? And not be surprised, you know, if a guy likes a 35-yard shot, then you'd probably lead into the game doing a lot of sort of long-range shots, for example, and you might not know that player from the Premier League or whatever. So is it a lot more difficult at a national level when it comes to the preparation? The only thing I would say that's more difficult is the temperature and stuff. and this is me not sticking up for the goalkeepers game but you know for example in the summer USA and America the balls will move a lot more the humidity and the heat and stuff and long range stuff the balls seem to move a lot more and I played in the World Cup in Japan and you know it's crazy what some of the balls are doing in training and even in the games and stuff you know and I don't think people take that into consideration at times because they bring out a new ball for the World Cup for example and it's I'm getting to blame again I think he's giving me I'm going to have a death stare over my left shoulder here.

50:46But, yeah, I mean, that's something you have to prepare for as well. So you go from a Premier League ball and then the next week you're playing in the World Cup with a totally different ball and totally different temperature and humidity and all that kind of stuff. So a lot can change. Dan, I'm going to come to you because you did have a question. But the reason I never came to you is because I asked that question to people. So have you got a different one? Yeah, I did think of one when you asked my question. What is your opinion on goalkeepers as captains? Some people feel that a captain should be an outfield player because they can communicate with all different positions at each time.

51:18But some people think that goalkeepers have a good view of the game. Do you think it matters? Well, it probably matters a bit more now because there's only one player allowed to go to the referee and that's got to be the captain. So you imagine that something happens in the opposition box and the referee wants to speak to the captain and he's 90 yards away, you know what I mean? So that wouldn't be the small thing. But Jamie would probably tell you the same. You know, captain doesn't do a lot really. I mean, you want someone in the dressing room who leads the dressing room who's a good leader, a good professional, all that kind of stuff.

51:46But when it comes to crossing the white line, you don't do a lot more than toss the coin and maybe give a bit of a team talk before the game. But I look at something like I mentioned Oliver Canary, I look at Iker Casillas and stuff, won the World Cup, won the Euros, won multiple trophies for Real Madrid. He was the captain of club and country, and that didn't do him any harm. I don't like people saying goalkeeper can't be captain. I think that's nonsense, to be honest. Justin? Yes, no offence, but Emi Martinez, in my opinion, is the best goalkeeper I've seen at Villa. But this season, a couple of times, he's come for crosses or balls into the box and his goals have come from it, he's dropped it, or like you said about melees in the box.

52:28How difficult is it when balls are whipped into the box to make that split-second decision? It seems like that was a pre-ordained, that he was going to just come whatever. But would that be the case, or would it be literally a split-second decision that you have to rely on training and muscle memory about, you know, I think it's not really muscle memory. It's more a decision. Like, you're right. It's like you're talking split-second decision. Can I comfort? Can I not comfort? You know, and it's literally like that because you've got to think of the trajectory of the ball, the speed the ball's coming at the opposition, the body's coming across you and stuff, you know.

53:01And Emi Martin, I agree, he's an absolutely brilliant goalkeeper. He really is. But again, he strikes me sometimes that he wants to get involved and stuff that maybe he doesn't have to. And that's his personality as well. So in his head, and maybe this is a wrong thing, the guy's about to take a corner or a wide free kick or something. In his head, he's saying, I'm coming for this no matter what, before it's even left the guy's foot. And that's not a good thing. So he has to sort of clear his head nearly at that stage and go, I'll make a decision on the trajectory of the ball and if it's in my area and if I should come.

53:31Rather than sometimes, I don't know, something might have happened just before that, and you can see he's itching to come for the next thing. They try and, not make amends, but try and do something. Overcorrecting it. Overcorrecting it, perhaps, you know. but again when something happens just before that the most important thing for goalkeepers to clear your head is to go right I need to just go back to that calm state I keep talking about nice and calm and I'll make a decision if I can come for this next ball over which is maybe something Emmy's got involved and some things he maybe shouldn't have to Yeah I think it just leans into what you were saying it's such a difficult position to play isn't it because the ball's coming and you think okay that's high enough for me to come and collect and you made that decision and all of a sudden an Arsenal player comes in and blah blah Yeah, that's right, yeah.

54:10And you look silly then, don't you? Yeah, I mean, it's really quick decisions. And you play with David James, I mean, David James used to come for everything, didn't he? Rightly or wrongly, and you think he's, you know, if we can get the right delivery, we'll cause some problems here because he does. I mean, some managers are like that as well. Some go, well, we know he's going to come for everything, so... You know where you stand. Just shuffle around him, you know what I mean? Do you think keepers don't punch you enough these days? Possibly, yeah. I mean, my dad was a goalkeeper when I was growing up, and I wasn't the tallest goalkeeper.

54:36And he always used to say to me, if I'm coming for stuff which is I used to play Gaelic football as well and I was used to the physicality side of things you know bumping into people and stuff but also if you come like just get something on it because if you think of the pace and the ball and stuff even if you get a touch on it a centre half or a striker come behind you that's all it needs sometimes you're just directing it for a throw in the other side you know you don't have to catch everything you can punch it or you can just help it on its way that's important you know what I I used to think obviously playing centre back but I used to think of goalkeepers I used to not like them punching but I used to sometimes think when you're a goalkeeper I mean, you're coming for a cross, you're coming up, and people are trying to knock you and think, oh, we put a big challenge in on him and try and make him drop it.

55:14I think if you're coming to punch, I think it scares people. I think if you're a centre-foot, you think, fuck, I might punch me. You know what I mean? You're going for a... But if he's going to catch you, it's a bit like a leave-on-on-all type. Is that something that goalkeepers think? But again, I look at some goalkeepers and they drop stuff now because they're there too early. So, for example, Emi could be in a mix too early. He's in a load of people. He's in too early. The biggest thing for a goalkeeper is timing. So I used to count in the head one or two seconds. When the ball left the takers thing, I'd go one-two in my head before I'd even do anything.

55:43And what that does do, when I do come, I'm coming late and I'm coming fast and I'm coming hard. So basically, the guy who's challenged is getting a knee in the head or something or an elbow in the head, but it's timing as well. So I'm jumping from here and I'm landing over there when I finish. So momentum's going through the ball. The worst thing for a goalkeeper is to be standing in the melee trying to fight over people and get the people. you need to arrive as the ball's arriving and then you'll see how many strikers want to challenge you how many strikers want to challenge you the next thing but your advantage obviously you can get a lot higher with your arm but it's spring as well and the last thing you see some goal the last thing you want to be is there too early because then that's when problems happen you know the striker or the big centre-halves have got to run and jump on you you've lost all the advantages of your hands and your height Aaron, you got a question?

56:27Yes, as a heart of supporting myself I'm a big fan of Craig Gordon a real last of a dime made of old school shot stoppers is there still room in the game for old school goalkeepers I think there is and I think if you do go on to win the league this year that save he made when he came off the bench he made a save this year Jamie Gordon it was probably one of the best saves I think I've ever seen and what age is he now 40? 42 going on 43 might make a comeback here but that save alone if you won the league on the back of that that was just hero status I'm sure for Hearts fans forever more there's an argument both ways isn't it you know obviously Casper struggled a bit this year at Celtic with injuries and maybe a bit of form as well and maybe you know Casper might step away I don't know how that's going to end up but if you're fit enough and still playing at that level you know I don't see goalkeepers normally play a lot longer than the outfield players you know

57:26We're going to get to a quick Q &A Okay Fire some questions at you Shay who was the best defender you have played behind

57:38probably from a country Paul McGrath I think he was a hero probably growing up as much as anything but absolute legend PFA player of the year for a club I'd be tossed between Woodgate who went to Real Madrid on the back of that or Vincent Kompany so I'd just hardly pick one which player did you dread facing I didn't really dread anyone. I said before, I backed myself against anyone, but Henri probably was the one who probably scored the most goals. I don't even know if that's a stat, but he scored a lot of goals. I just had that horror about him, I suppose. He was my answer for that question as well, for myself.

58:16He wasn't bad, was he? Yeah, so you're going to ask me that question. I'll ask myself it. Who was the best keeper I've played in front of? I would say Pepe Reiner. Why would you say that? Because the other goalkeepers weren't as good as him. He would not on top of it they were the main ones would be Pepe to be honest Vesterveld yeah Pepe was the best better than the other keepers I played I wouldn't say Pepe was sort of that sort of like Schmeichel James you played with? yeah I think Pepe was the best we kept a lot of clean sheets he was really good with his feet probably ahead of his time really in terms of how good he was with his feet but I don't think we ever had like a Schmeichel piece of check in our goal if you know what I mean so I think Pepe was definitely the best personality as well I think Pepe's someone who's really calm as well and that's spread through the team you know what you're going to get every week from him until I saw Hearts at Anfield sorry until I saw Hearts at Anfield yeah what happened that was a stinker dropped it yeah against Hearts yes at Anfield I played in I knew you brought you into the I played at Time Castle you did indeed yeah you went to your time didn't you what was the score it was a Europa League qualifier yeah we took with it at Anfield Adam Mogan debut did he get Mogue Brianacket did he come on sub in the first game?

59:29He came off for Sterling in the So what was the score in the first game? Did we win 1-0 at your place? It was narrow yeah but we took it to one all aggregate and then Suarez scored later on Oh and so I'm picking me in a big mistake Yeah Don't remember I came I was on the bench My funny story with the hearts and the remember the Andy Yemi stuff when there was a phone in? Oh yeah Why is Andy Yemi not playing for Scotland? Because he's Finnish He's not seen play with hearts yesterday Oh he's Finnish Exactly Right Quick fire to Shea Best save you made? Probably at Sunderland Newcastle Sunderland v Newcastle Kevin Phillips Up to my left hand side I think I made like Top 10 saves in Premier League history So I think it was the importance Of it kicking the clean sheet And winning the game Against your big rivals Best save you've seen?

1:00:19Oh Best save I've seen What live or just in general In life you mean? I'm just reading the questions What's the best save of all time? what do you look at as a goalkeeper any so many saves thanks gets to mention doesn't it obviously Martínez at Forest last season Martínez yeah that was a unbelievable save oh right Craig Gordon's award winning Craig Gordon deserves a definite mention if you see that by Craig Gordon David Reisman some amazing saves this year the best save ever I mean Peter Cech must have made my hero was Peter Schmeichel as well some of the saves that Peter Schmeichel used to make was you talk about having the top goalkeeper to win the league him and his prime I don't think there's any better goalkeeper ever was or ever will be David Samanside as well wasn't it yeah in the FA Cup that was the FA Cup semi-final that was their bad header I'm not having that honestly that was a bad bad header funny about saying about keepers because you go back to Clough remember Clough signed Shelton and Shelton was I think it may have been British record he was way ahead of his time in that because he said that Shelton was what got Forrest the lead those two seasons because he invested in a keeper at a time where you said he didn't go into the ashtray for people.

1:01:33No, that's right, yeah. He either was a British record at the time or he was a few thousand off it. He was the first manager. He really realised the importance of the backdoor shut. He ended up getting, I think, I think he won Player of the Year. I think Shilton definitely won. I don't know if it was PFA or Football of the Year. Southall won Football of the Year in 1985. Or won't he? I grew up watching him. I still can't believe I'll ever see a goalkeeper best. maybe because I watched him so much as a kid but he was just like off the scale I mean you're looking at me don't know Neville Seltor oh do you oh yeah you're a keeper aren't you apologies a lot of the GK union missed off ok biggest windup you played with as a goalkeeper not anyone trying to think now probably Nobby Solano was probably one of the funniest remember Nobby he was a good player wasn't he he had unbelievable right foot and sometimes he would cut in on his left and he would swerve outside of his right foot and I go Nobby why not you cross for your left foot instead of like doing the outside of your right foot.

1:02:28And he goes, my friend, when your right foot's this good, no need for the left foot. And I was like, okay, fair enough. But just the funny thing on Nubby was if a manager's under pressure at all, you know, in his job or something, he used to play the trumpet and he'd go out to the car and he'd stick the trumpet in the window of the training ground and play the last post. I see the man, where's that coming from, Lee? He was a funny character. Oh, man. Goalkeeper you felt sorry for?

1:02:57probably Karius in the Champions League final I think that was I worked with Loris at Manchester City he was a young kid actually at City with me when I was there and then to see that final there's no hiding place you know any goalkeepers here there's no hiding place and to do it on that stage it was just it was heartbreaking to watch nearly for him biggest personality in net I'd probably go back to Peter Schmeichel again I just think his aura I think, you know, even you talk about ex-strikers who've come up against him and stuff, and he just, you know, he was probably ahead of his time. You know, so quick off his line, that 1v1, he changed the way, you know, we used to always come sliding out low when he changed the way.

1:03:37You know, he came out with a big, massive frame. He came out of pace and speed. And also what he did do, you know, was before his time, we talk about modern-day goalkeepers, about distribution. How many times did you see Schmeichel come to the edge of boxing and spare it about 70 yards? They put a Giggs or a Beckham through on a counterattack. He was ahead of his time. and then again just that sort of aura he had I think you know opposition I remember the game at Newcastle I wasn't playing but I wasn't even there actually but you know when they won 1-0 the performance that night I think it was Chianton I might have scored you know when Newcastle were 12 I think that night he was just he was just unbeatable and some of the saves were amazing What about Grobbelaar?

1:04:11Grobbelaar in terms of aura aura I mean listen I was a a kid obviously an Everton fan and Liverpool and Everton never going for league titles in FA Cups and Bruce Groblar was a brilliant goalkeeper who made mistakes all right the spaghetti legs in the final spaghetti legs yeah well I passed her on to Jersey Dudek in Istanbul really yeah no he's a brilliant I mean he actually won Groblar as well and he was almost different to a lot of goalkeepers he'd come for everything wouldn't he I mean and he'd also come out the box wouldn't he with the ball his character wasn't he yeah his personality wasn't he right Shay the final question okay this better be good been a great episode but who is the best goalkeeper in the world right now?

1:04:57Right now it's a difficult question that they finish I mean it's hard to look past Donnarumma I think at City I mean you know we're just getting the look at him on a regular basis I think now in the Premier League but again I think he's only 26 I think it is in what he's done in his career you know with Paris Saint-Germain with Italy as well one of the Euros I think and do you think his best years are ahead of him still? I know he's not going to the World Cup, obviously, this week. It's probably not the best week to mention that, you know. But, I mean, I do love David Raya at Arsenal. I think he's having a phenomenal season as well.

1:05:33I think, you know, we always talk about if you've got a team that's going to win the Premier League, you have to have a top goalkeeper. I think in David Raya, they've got some of the saves and the important saves he's made at crucial times this season. He's been world-class. I'm trying to think. I love Courtois. I think it's kind of, I love Courtois. Yeah. Courtois loves Courtois as well no but again probably going back to what I said before you have to you have to back yourself I think he was famously said after he went to Real Madrid that he didn't get the respect in the Premier League perhaps that he deserves and probably has a point as well because he is he is a phenomenal goalkeeper I'm just trying to think have we forgotten anybody since he left or did Chelsea win the league was he Conte's goalkeeper Jose and Conte yeah well they haven't won the league I mean you think of Chelsea and think of how important goalkeepers are they win the league with Czech and they win the league with Korsman you have to get your goalkeeper right who else are we forgetting anybody before we go off this I mean Alisson maybe the last couple of years Alisson yeah Alisson definitely is in the conversation I mean that performance last year in Paris Saint-Germain was unbelievable wasn't it I'd have said Martinez 18 months ago Martinez yeah he was one of the best goalkeeper in the world two years goalkeeper the year twice I mean that save he made in the World Cup final before they got the goal I mean that was that just shows the importance of a goalkeeper to make a save at that stage in the World Cup final.

1:06:49And the penalties he signed as well. He's a hero, isn't he, in Argentina forevermore. He's a hero at Villa Park as well. But I mean, forevermore, to make that important save. And that just shows you the importance of the position, everyone. Yay, fantastic. Thank you.

1:07:07So that's it for another great episode on the Fan Debate, brought to you by Skybet. Catch you next time.

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