Can Dyson's dosh build a dynasty at Bath?

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1:24Charlie Morgan: Estamos muy contentos de tenerlos a parte de la comunidad de rugby. Ahora, vamos a ver el show.

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2:29Alex Lowe: ¿Es es dreadful porque last week I was watching one of the great test matches? ¿O es es realmente dreadful? Y no, es fue realmente dreadful.

2:36Charlie Morgan: ¿Qué fue la pregunta? ¿Qué fue lo que fue? Porque Brian Edriscoll, I'm not sure they're good enough para profesional rugby. Paraphrasing slightly, es como as damning.

2:45Alex Lowe: Es fue la primera mitad. There fue un par de momentos de tres minutos in. Wow. Tres minutos in. Where Sue Townsend throws a pass to Marcus Smith quien está mirando y le danzasما de los desastres. K fail a gol commis ¿qué es y? ¿qué está pasando con lo W gem backstory? yération como he pibes sich tra

3:11Alfie Reynolds: touching y uno aprobado ¿ decía queabe que vi cuSON 24 antiguas dos 2 laughsispad del vivo y usted es absoluto es èstru дополн killer one because Saracens were quite good for about 15 minutes and then just got absolutely blown apart so I quite enjoyed my Friday night but maybe because I was at a club who've got their act together and they're at home and everyone was loving it and the money's come in and everything else and so it felt like a nice place to be

3:42Alex Lowe: and the game that you were at on Sunday also put the Quinns game into perspective because that was

3:46Charlie Morgan: but as you wrote in your report your game was the pretty much encyclopedia definition of what people that really want promotion and relegation Yeah. That's what they don't want. And that's what they see as being a real kind of negative point to this change. But you're right. We'll come on to the matches in more detail in just a moment. But I feel like we've been speaking about Quinns like this for a long time. And Laurie Dalrymple came on the pod, didn't he, a few months back and fronted up with you guys. And they've spoken about trying to, you know, get someone in to properly oversee the club, like a director of rugby or that sort of, you know, get their ducks in a row.

4:19Charlie Morgan: But for Quinns for a long time, I've felt that they, besides the kind of history, the name, where they're based, that sort of thing. From a sporting point of view, they have been fairly irrelevant for a couple of seasons. But maybe we'll get on to the games, the Prem returning, into the run-in, all that sort of stuff. Also, we're going to be having a chat with Seb Atkinson, Gloucester and England Centre, is going to be joining us on the pod later on. Will, you mentioned Bath Friday night and a team that have sort of sorted themselves out, I suppose. Big news last week, the big rugby news domestically in England last week, in the last week or so.

4:51Charlie Morgan: James Dyson becoming a 50 % shareholder in Bath He's been investing in the club for quite a long time They had sponsorship on the shirts And you've seen him in the box of Bruce Craig loads of times on the TV But big, big news, big investment Owning 50 % of the club I suppose my first question for you guys Is coupled with the Red Bull investment in Newcastle How significant is this in terms of the landscape And the investment in English Prem Clubs?

5:17Alfie Reynolds: Yeah, it's huge for Bath y se acuerda su futuro ad infinitum.

5:23Charlie Morgan: ¿Es el cuarto de la riqueza de la gente en el mundo?

5:24Alfie Reynolds: Sí, sí. La familia de la fortuna de 21 billones, que es no malo si se puede ver. Y parece que, hablando a un poco de gente que han visto su supporto de Bath grow sobre el último 30, 40 años, su box que estaba nexto a Bruce Craig era full de hombres y mujeres y cosas así, pero es ahora su granja. Y aquí espero que hay ser Max Blasgamos de fr blend Y si handfuls de familia Y se encontrará en ello Los croisados

6:06Alfie Reynolds: Entonces crece que es un club En el surме Seemingly are engaged to do so Then you think that this is a club that's going to be Surviving and thriving for decades and decades to come But yeah on the point of that Franchising thing I asked that directly So I spoke to Sir James Dyson Sorry I'll get that right To you And Bruce Craig the other day when they announced this And first things first Sir James has got a very nice house So I was on a team's call with them And he was in a lovely Marble hauled con un de sus vacíos en el cuarto que era una de las cosas product placement y es una de esas que era un tipo de ruedas ¿Eres que necesitas hoovering?

6:48Alfie Reynolds: ¿Eres?

6:48Charlie Morgan: I was hoping you'd say he had a Henry Hoover o algo en el cuarto, que sería muy funny These son mucho más suficientes

6:53Alfie Reynolds: Can't believe it Pero I asked directly Bruce Craig Is the decision to franchise The Prem, has that accelerated this investment? And I think his public answer was no But then you speak to a lot of people around it y dicen que la confianza que eso ha dado a los inversores es definitivamente parte de él y la segunda parte de Barth es que obviamente están tratando de gastar 70 millones o hayan de la ciudad en el desarrollo entonces entonces tienen su plana y permiso y la franquicia y la franquicia ambos de ellos hacen que invertir en un club como Barth es más viable porque hay más seguridad porque es un argumento que hemos rehearsado loads of times isn't it Alex and we did on our pod with Stuart Barnes a few weeks ago when we talked about this issue is that the first thing that investors or people who you're borrowing money from will talk about is what happens if you get relegated and the answer before now had to be well we'll lose all our money and eventually funding and everything else so it would kind of be a version of oblivion whereas now that doesn't exist so therefore you've got that security and the counter of sporting argument to it is what you saw yeah stoop yeah where the drawbridge gets drawn up there's no jeopardy at the bottom quinn's in any normal season would be like tottenham absolutely desperately worried they're going to get relegated how on earth but they're not and so it doesn't matter so they can talk about in march they can talk about preparing for pre-season which to people who's spending a lot of money going to the game must be just like are you are you joking far

8:29Alex Lowe: fewer people are spending a lot of money to go just have a look at how many tickets are unsold para el gran giro de la gran semana de la granja de Twickenham. Pero sí, la dos extremos de la podcast de debate unfolded last week. Quins, que talk about wanting to... They dream big en Europa y quieren finish outside el bottom, pero no importa. They están preparando para el año. On el flip side, es exactamente como se dice, la bar situación, donde el financiamiento de la nueva stadium es mucho más fácil de obtener porque lo que ha sido el riesgo de relegación y fue solo un theoretical risk y relegación había sido en place por el último 3 o 4 años como estructura

9:10Charlie Morgan: ¿Crees que fue el riesgo de relegación en un form que se había que fill en para llegar a la ley? No, no era lo que era relevante

9:17Alex Lowe: No, no era lo que era posible y que existía theoretically y que es por lo que Red Bull came in y que es lo que sucedió con el Prêmio y el RFC formalizing the top tier as an expansion league, franchise league. That was so obviously going to happen because Red Bull would not have been buying into Newcastle if there was a threat of Newcastle going down. And we knew that and people on background were telling us that. So the direction of travel was pretty clear. So now you've got Red Bull have come in. Dyson has invested in Bath. There are now three billionaire owners plus Red Bull out of a 10-team league.

9:54Alex Lowe: y el pueblo que yo estaba hablando muy bien sobre la confianza que se le dices y si Red Bull quiere lo que se trata de Charly sobre Tom Brady y el perro de Birmingham City para añadir un profesional de rugby club a suelo de fútbol y cricket y entonces se trata de pensar que estamos hablando de la salaria cap 6.4 millones Tom Brady earns 3 millones per game que comentan en el NFL en Fox Sports en América. Así que esto es muy, muy small beer para estos chicos. I know Bruce Craig talked about no wanting to increase el salario cap immediately until el resto de la league could afford it y eso y eso es muy sensible.

10:42Alex Lowe: Pero es definitivamente el ambition porque si un jump de 6.4 a 10 millones en rugby terms es grande Pero si tienes una millonera, no es nada.

10:56Charlie Morgan: Es un error. ¿Y si solo puede hacer eso? ¿O es que todo el mundo puede hacer eso? ¿O es que tiene que ver con cómo viable el negocio es?

11:02Alfie Reynolds: Es un interesante punto, creo, porque hay que balancear la cosa que American sports... Es interesante, ¿no? Porque es un poco político, pero la más capitalista país en la vida tiene la más socialista sports set up, ¿no? Como, todo es igual, ¿no? Pero en la premia, es interesante, ¿no? because you want to get the balance right between rewarding ambition not capping people's ambition and then big rich owners like Tom Brady getting involved and he goes well what's the point for me this isn't fun because I'm only allowed to spend a pitiful amount of cash I want to get all these great players from around the world and I can't do it because I can't fit them in this tiny cap but you also don't want what has happened before what happened pre-COVID and then it came out in the wash after COVID which is overinflating therefore all the money just going to players therefore them getting more expensive therefore you can't keep them therefore teams do the Icarus thing they fly too close to the sun and get burnt up and that's what happened to wasps Worcester London Irish where you look you did a piece Charlie in the Six Nations with Finn Smith and Seb Atkinson having grown up together at Worcester and you look at some of the lineups that they had in that era and you go what a great team but you go but they couldn't afford it.

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12:42Alfie Reynolds: Es uno de los cinco games en el weekend.

12:44Alex Lowe: Sí, es la carrera de la carrera de 8º en el último campeón.

12:47Charlie Morgan: Es un gag en sí, que hay un equipo de 8º en el 10º, que sabemos. Pero también también, creo que vamos a terminar... La carrera de la carrera de 10º, fue sort de, creo, salvo en la carrera de la carrera de 10º en la carrera. En que hay un montón de equipos fallible, y fue un gran scramble. Creo que es probablemente va a ser menos de un scramble este año, si creemos que 11 rounds en, con solo 7 más. Se siente que Saracens están en la manera de hacer 6-4. Puede muy pronto ser 5-4. Puede que endan con un par de un par de rounds. Que es muy desastroso, ¿verdad? Para generar interest en el espectáculo.

13:24Alex Lowe: Pero ellos han sido decidido por eso. Así que creo que todos los agregados a la top 6. Entonces, la carrera de ser en la Champions Cup se puede ser más dramático. Eso es muy bueno. Pero ellos han sido decidido por la NFL-style sistema. Where if you're out, now in the NFL, sometimes it can benefit teams to just keep losing so they get number one draft for the following year. We're sort of seeing that play out at Quinn's at the moment where everything now is geared to let's just get through this season. Talk about not wanting to meander, but they were desperate on Saturday.

13:56Alfie Reynolds: Show me a meander if that's not one.

13:57Alex Lowe: Yeah, like they don't have this search for DORs, etc. But that's what the league has signed up for. y es que se les da open a criticar de un tipo de crítica de un tipo de barnes que es un gran believer en promoción y relegación un poco de gente que estaba hablando de la Dyson era diciendo que ahora hay tres mega-rich owners plus Red Bull Tony Rowe wants a sell a nuevo investor en Exeter el momentum y el confidence que esto es giving el industrio fue para mí que ahora Exeter es un poco no solo porque están haciendo bueno en el campo, pero tú estás buying into algo que ha sido, como si ha sido algo que ha sido, bueno, ahí está algo que está sucediendo en rugby y, y también, la romántica tradición es que no le a la premioship rugby club siendo talked of como un asset class, como un investment class, pero, you know, as I just mentioned la paltry amount de dinero que se toma cuando comparas a la Premier League o incluso a la Champions League football, y we've seen how much the 100 franchises were sold for, y they had teams with no history being valued at 300 500 million pounds cricket has its Indian market rugby doesn't have that but there's there's a growing confidence in the in that world that maybe there's something moving in rugby so what they really want and what they're hoping for is that Red Bull Dyson will lead to Tony Rowe finding an investment house who want to come in on Exeter then you've got five out 10, y luego, la idea de Birmingham takes off porque se ve Red Bull y se dice, hay un hope que se builds un investimiento momentum.

15:35Alex Lowe: Y todo esto es muy modern, muy profesional. No es tu local rugby club, no es que te come through con juniors y te van a jugar para el primer team. Pero que es lo que, como discutimos con Barnsley, la prem ha sifonado itself away from that. So, estamos hablando ahora de franchise competition where investment is starting to build how much is it how much does it need the

15:56Charlie Morgan: traditional side of it though as well can it can it can it be a halfway house whereby they've got the traditional brands and cringe at sort of that that word and i know a lot of people will but can they can they have that professional side of it tied to the brand and is that the most

16:10Alfie Reynolds: powerful way of doing it i was i was going to say that we were talking about this last week where El nirvana es a encontrar un Red Bull, no un Dyson. Porque humanos die y algunos de sus dinero. Mientras más de las multinacionales no. Así que es más seguro que hay Red Bull. Pero la cosa que... Es que hay que signar el Faustian pacto a bit cuando se va a ir a bed con un Red Bull. Porque luego se convierte en el Red Bull. Y se pierde los falcons. You lose whatever other bits and pieces that you'd built up as your brand and your thing. And I guess, so that's, if Exeter Chiefs were to have the option, it would be like, well, what do we want to keep here and what do we want to lose?

16:52Alfie Reynolds: And maybe it's a slightly different thing because of the whole Chiefs thing that we don't need to go through. But I think that's interesting where quite a lot of these are traditional old, centuries old rugby clubs who might have to make quite an interesting sort of branding, marketing decision. un poco como el 100 franchises que no existen de nada así que el Oval Invincibles se convierte en Mumbai Indians London y gente como me que son un gran Oval Invincibles fan van van a decir que tengo todo el viejo stash ahora pero no lo que me no es así pero como un Leicester Tigers fan van van a decir que ahora estamos en el Leicester Apple o algo así ¿qué es eso?

17:29Alfie Reynolds: que no es mi equipo que no es mi club que no es mi tradición que no tiene nada que con lo que hemos construido

17:35Alex Lowe: Es lo que se ha investido en este camino. Así que si miras a la Premier League, hay un poco de la diferencia en términos de inversión, pero la misma cuestión de la tierra de la comunidad. Newcastle United, ahora que se ha ido por Saudis, hay un diferente vibe de lo que ese club es. Creo que la fans son los fans, pero lo que ese club stands for es diferente. Manchester City no son la local ciudad de la ciudad. Even Liam Gallagher está diciendo que no quiere ir a la Etihad. Porque no es flat. He was alright at Wembley though. He was alright at Wembley in his box. But it's that point of, you know, even West Ham who don't have that success but they've been sort of ripped out of where they used to be, the community element.

18:17Alex Lowe: They don't exist for the community anymore, a lot of those clubs, because they're being owned by big investors from overseas. And again, that's the ideal balance. I think as we said previously about Exeter, the ideal balance is that Tony Rose, next door neighbour who's got a billion pounds, y retains la conexión con la comunidad y todo que que te ayudan a construir el club pero también elevar el nivel de la siguiente nivel la realidad es que es un American investment house

18:46Alfie Reynolds: y esto es el tema porque estamos comparando apples y pears por hablar de la fútbol pero si massive football clubs en financial terms en la comunidad es el mismo pero si y si massive football clubs can resist huge state y enormes empresas que involucradas, pues el rugby tiene no chance. No hay que estar en el lugar. Porque no hay que hacer nada. No hay que hacer nada. No hay que hacer nada. Si alguien está llegando y diciendo que no hay que hacer todo esto, pero no hay que cambiar todo esto, pero no hay que cambiar todo esto.

19:14Charlie Morgan: Y es un balance, y es un mix. En términos de la rebranquilla, como Bristol becoming Bristol Bears, ha sido bastante un poco de pocasas de la fan base que todavía no se llamaban a Bristol Rugby. Y eso coincide con el showgun. Exactamente, back in the day at the Mem Had many a happy memory on the Thatcher's Territory

19:34Alfie Reynolds: Was the difference with that, that wasn't driven by A company that they'd been Bought by, for example

19:41Charlie Morgan: Yeah, potentially They're not a Red Bulls situation It's also coincided with the longest period Of solidity and being stable And at the elite level So people are probably happier with it as well Plus they won the Challenge Cup and that sort of thing The Newcastle thing again is if you look at the context Of that you say, alright you're Newcastle Red Bulls Pero tu keepacarte siempre en la norte, que ya

20:30Alfie Reynolds: y el dinero que se puede mencionar también que hay un nuance aquí es que el dinero es un poco como cuando hablamos de Lorraine Kelly ¿estamos hablando de Lorraine Kelly, el presenter o Lorraine Kelly, el brand, el show y hay un Dyson, el company y hay un Dyson, el actual man ¿no? ¿no? ¿no? ¿no? ¿no? ¿no? Pero es su personal Es su personal ¿no? ¿no? que es investing here El Dyson Company sponsor the shirt, pero Sir James Dyson's family han bought half the club.

21:06Charlie Morgan: I do. Esos son de la cultural references que Will gets in. I didn't see Lorraine Kelly being the link there. No, no, I like it. I'm just trying to be relatable here, guys.

21:16Alfie Reynolds: But what was your question? I've confused myself with Lorraine Kelly.

21:19Charlie Morgan: The stadium is hopefully closer as a result of this. The second question I was going to ask is, is there a danger here for the rest of the league that Bath, who are already at the moment, but they're the reigning champions, They have the strongest squad by an absolute mile. Is there a danger that they become so far ahead of everyone else?

21:36Alfie Reynolds: So it was easy. And as someone who had to do the on the whistle match report to just do it about that stuff on Friday night. And because their performance was so, I think I used the phrase, it was like dripped with dynastic power. It was just so that we are here. We're going to be here for a long time. We're bringing seven lads off the bench. Half of them have got test caps. Some of them have won the World Cup.

21:59Charlie Morgan: Kind of symbolic That it was against the previous Significant dynasty Exactly and they took them apart

22:06Alfie Reynolds: And I reference in the second paragraph of the report A game that was also at five years before Which was Saracen 71 Bath 17 That was when Bath came bottom of the league 13th And you go now look at them And Saracen just could not cope And you think if you extrapolate that plus the money I know they're losing people like Thomas Dutoy next season And Barbary and a few others They'll look slightly less deep perhaps pero luego de que le addos como Keputu Pallotu que es básicamente el signifier de la siguiente gen de la academia que se puede llegar y go, esto puede ser un club que puede ser al top de la pile por un tiempo y no debería, si lo manage bien debajo de muy altas pero en un team team que puede perder 5 games y se puede perder el partido y lo hemos dicho antes que es un poco como un inflado version of the Six Nations, because it's so small the Prem, you've probably got five or six clubs who are having a bad season each year, aren't you?

23:03Alfie Reynolds: Because everyone half the league's won the title in the last five years and so if they're not doing it the next season they're disappointed, aren't they? So I don't think you can ever guarantee that Bath are going to just win loads of titles for now because of all the balancing things that have to be put in.

23:18Alex Lowe: Yeah, we talked about their window didn't we? Because the way that their squad was constructed gave them a window to maximise it, to go and win the Champions Cup and try and win as many Prem titles as they can but it's not possible to sustain that, it's very difficult to sustain that forever, we thought the Saracens thing was going on forever and now look where they are Barth are leading the way but and Bristol are not far behind and now Exeter have made the top four and they're not spending anywhere near what Barth are spending so you want it to be cyclical but it needs to be, enough clubs need to be at that point I think for that to happen.

23:55Charlie Morgan: Yeah and let's hope that that happens maybe James Dyson's investment is the second domino to fall after Red Bull in Newcastle and we're going to see loads more we will wait and see. A quick break here the other side of Seb Atkinson will have a chat about some of the other big stories in the Prem over the weekend but up next it's the Gloucester and England centre Seb Atkinson.

24:17Alfie Reynolds: Okay so Seb Atkinson's on the pod live down the line from Kingshome from Gloucester but it's a different ¡Suscríbete al canal!

24:53Alfie Reynolds: Panza, part of a big weekend, Sarri Saints at Spurs, Bristol-Quinn's at Cardiff. Does it change things in the week for you guys? Not too much. I guess our schedule will be similar to an away game. Obviously, it's a home game for us, but it'll be similar to away game because we'll be travelling the night before. An earlier kick-off as well. We've not had a 1pm kick-off, so getting your head around that, making sure you're out of bed on time and things like that, doing what you can to get ahead of it. But no, apart from that, just a lot of excitement. y sabemos que hay un gran crowd y un lugar para jugar para ser especial y obviamente en la Prima es exciting y queremos hacer nuestro mejor para el resto de la temporada ¿Cómo cambia tu schedule?

25:31Alfie Reynolds: ¿Es ir a poner tu comida y todo el día y tener un juego un poco más tarde es diferente de Paris que es 10.09 local ¿no? Sí, yo creo que hay que pensar en la vida un poco más de la comida y hacer que se quiera más de la noche el día antes ir a la noche a la hora a good time have a good breakfast probably a little bit earlier than normal not lying in and then I guess it's probably better for some people because there's no time to sort of have a bit of downtime in the day you're probably up straight at it we'll probably have a little walk through at the hotel the lads will get together and have a coffee so in some ways it could be it could work to our advantage.

26:09Alfie Reynolds: On the flip side what was that Paris experience like was that have you had a game as late as that and then obviously it was so crazy as well you're probably pumped full of adrenaline and you can't sleep and you're full of caffeine and post-match function like how does that work for a player those mad late french nights yeah definitely it was interesting i've yeah as you say i've not played a game quite as late as that before and to have that crowd um to have my family there uh some of my mates as well the adrenaline was definitely pumping i felt probably a little bit calmer off the back of the game the week before sort of knew what i wanted to do and and certain sides of it so maybe felt a bit more comfortable in that respect um but yeah i think I didn't get to sleep I don't think till sort of 3-4 in the morning not for any fault of my own just I couldn't get to sleep because your heart's still pounding and all the rest of it so it would definitely be a special memory but my body took a few days to recover afterwards And how are you feeling after the Six Nations like it was I guess quite a strange tournament because you weren't involved in the match day squads to start with and then you were front and centre for two weeks but not the results you wanted to get so try and sum it up for me how was that como un dos meses de experiencia para ti, tu primer Six Nations?

27:19Sí, mi primer, bueno, mi primer campaña, pero primer Six Nations. Sí, yo aprendí mucho. Yo realmente disfruté. Yo disfruté de part de la team. Yo disfruté de entrenar muy bien. Yo disfruté de competir y conectar. So, disfruté de competir hard en la training pitch y conectar con la team, aprender de mí, de mi game, de cómo yo link con otros. yед sponsoredadas en la gym cuando ya no hay que Conference y sk��은 deutor y Iортlan me dio y miresía thể elegir la Stuffol events con barrio con los pd. Obviamente las cuentas de reformas pero Maevano un membre increíble cómo trabajifico cómo el party lleve elcemos camino ¿Taco qué lo han A Porto hasta cuando la fuga lo han Gary está A Porto la edtop hasta cuando la fuga y around us.

28:14Seeing how leaders in that environment lead definitely has given me some thoughts to take away coming back into Gloucester and credit to the coaches they stuck strong, they gave us what we needed and obviously things haven't quite we haven't quite got around the corner yet maybe but I still really enjoyed the experience and learnt a lot and have some great memories to take away from it so yeah, ups and downs but I think when I look back on it I'm very proud.

28:42Alfie Reynolds: Yeah, and talk to us a bit about the difference in the week between the France and the Italy game, or the Italy and the France game that way around, because just visually it looks so, it's like a different style of play, a different attitude perhaps in Rome as opposed to Paris. So in as much detail as you can, what happened behind the scenes in that week? What did you learn about each other and yourselves and how you wanted to play? Yeah, I think it's interesting because the tactics probably didn't change too much. You've only got a week to prepare for a game So we're not going to throw everything out the window And try and be a completely different team I guess maybe that's what the coaches are reflecting on now But they definitely doubled down On the tactics they were feeding us And that's all you can ask for as players really You don't want too much change So maybe there was probably just time to develop A little bit more of the connections As I was speaking around before They obviously made a change pretty much To the whole backline from memory So that probably was why it looked so clunky I think we went into the Italy game With the right mindset With the desire to move the ball And create opportunities And also be tactical And manage territory as well as we could I just think it didn't quite click For whatever reason So maybe just a bit of continuity And then also just a slight tweak in mindset In terms of we knew the French were going to play They always do And they do it unbelievably well They can score tries from anywhere So we knew that we were going into that game Needing to combat that And almost try and beat it So I don't think tactically much changed I just think there was a mindset And after a tough result Maybe just a bit more belief That we can do what we're talking about I think the players will always back themselves I'll always back myself But maybe it just felt a bit more tangible And also just Some passes just came off We made some breaks There was good momentum in the game So yeah it's difficult to say pero creo que un poco más de belief y un poco más cohesión.

30:43Alfie Reynolds: ¿Y quién fue driving esos conversaciones? Take us into that week porque yo imagino que había un poco de solucion y un poco de tough conversaciones. We've seen England Rugby que han put up el team talk que Ellis Genji que se hagan el que se hagan en el back de la neta, ¿no? Take us into that dressing room. ¿Qué conversaciones? ¿Qué conversaciones era como? Sí, hay algunos increíbles. Como you saw Genji que nos hagan un speech each, which was exactly what we needed at the time, I think. Mauro is always extremely clear on what we're trying to achieve each session, each meeting and then how do we put that onto the pitch.

31:19I think certain connections that I know that I made with Finn Smith at 10 and Tommy Freeman outside me, kind of what we expected from each other. So yeah, probably from that aspect, the coaching aspect, I think all the coaches were working so hard to try and get us to have a good performance and result. I remember Kev Simfield gave us a big talk about how do we generate this belief in a time where it's looking hard to believe so I think he's always someone that the team looked to go to in those moments but everyone was pushing the right direction staff, players and players that weren't picked so yeah, I think the leaders stepped up and everyone tried to do their part

32:04Alfie Reynolds: ¿Do you remember more detail of that Kev Sinfield speech? He's an inspirational figure, isn't he? Yeah, I think he sort of made comparisons to other sports, other world leaders, talking about how it can sometimes be tough to believe, but it's just the power of a group to come together and believe in something, even when it could be questioned. I can't remember the exact examples that he used, pero sí, es siempre un buen personaje y a lot de lo que dice es la gente que se descanse Y para ti, en el medio de eso tú eres un hombre que tenía tres capas y ahora tienes cuatro ¿Cómo fácil es eso para encontrar tu voz?

32:46Alfie Reynolds: Porque, como te dije, tú eres parte de una inexperiencia en la división pero tú eres jugando 12 en la testa ¿Puedes irme a la tienda? ¿Cómo fácil o otherwise te encontrar que te drive lo que te parece? ¿Cuál så你看ar que auxilio que ha ido de los 12 continentes? Yeah, definitivamente. ¿No, no? No, no, no, no, no ,атаomenológico para la mera definitivavenos a hacer esto para ellos. Quis them a poner la mejor m interactua en la mera que se dec тех que podía, se yo ni que tenía necesidad de supplies de la posibilidad de las preguntas a los squades, planear comparte hasta que ellos쳤los lo que me era pensaba, como yo nos hallaba.

33:21Así que el Mauro es de forma que mi rugby tendrá es Instituteitense de punida de parte de la Early Kif sake de parte de la Early Kif sake trying to find small margins how can we push our attack how can we push our defence and have some clear thoughts going into the game so yeah probably just working on that cohesion having those small conversations with the people around you in the week and making sure when you're in the heat of the battle and there's however many 80 ,000 people screaming you almost don't need to have those conversations in the moment you subconsciously know how we're going to react to each other So yeah, everyone pulls their part and I was just trying to do what I could so that I could have the best performance on the pitch.

34:03Alfie Reynolds: Yeah, and is that, I know the result didn't go the way you wanted to, but the way you guys played, is that what you want to see now as the England style going forward? Like, I guess it adapts a bit game to game depending on who you're playing against, doesn't it? But do you think that's a strong, good blueprint for an England team to take forward to the summer and beyond? Yeah, I think so. I think the coaches are very clear on the game plan that they want to give us and I think the players buy it, they back it and now sort of off the back of it, off the back of the performance that we had in Paris there's the belief that we can continue to score tries and keep pushing our game.

34:41I don't think there ever was a lack of belief, I just think sometimes it's hard when things aren't going your way to fully buy into it. So yeah, I think it would do great for our confidence. Obviously, we didn't win and that's probably what people will remember and things like that. But for me personally, anyway, I think I've taken a lot from it, both in terms of good stuff to remember, bad stuff to remember, all the rest of it. So hopefully I'll be in a better spot and I know that the rest of the team will be too.

35:11Alfie Reynolds: Yeah, and bringing it back to Gloucester, but also looking ahead to what you hope is a nice summer series of matches, ¿Qué te gustaría que te guste a tu propio juego en Gloucester? Que te guste a ser el hombre que juega 12-4 en el año de la box. Porque parece que es un gran prospecto, ¿no? Sí, sería muy cool. Para ir de Paris a Sudáfrica. Creo que Steve es muy bueno a catching up con players. Y de hecho que tienes una o dos cosas que él expecte a trabajar. y ellos obviamente vienen de los jugadores también así que no es una parte para mí, es un parque de un parque de los dos lados de la bola internacional rugby es un gran gran fútbol así que cómo puedo imposir mi defensa con mi técnico de la técnica en la breitura, haciendo bien decisiones en términos de jacol y counter-ruc y luego de la otra parte de la bola probablemente tener un buen balance entre mi pasión y mi ball carrying game trying to get good post contact meters, secondary fight winning collisions to create offload opportunities so all around the collision area for me apart from that something that I put on myself is just my leadership always trying to grow that side of things how do I relate to my teammates how do we become better as a group so yeah, those two I'd say Long way ahead but no es un lugar bueno, sería un lugar pero alguien como tú would love a go alguien como Damien D 'Alende o André Esterházin at 12 they've got quite good centres down there don't they in South Africa when we get there Yeah yeah definitely I think one of my first starts for Gloucester was against André for Harlequins I think first line out of the game I probably was way too excited throughout the line and I put in a pretty good tackle so hopefully that bodes well but Pero como cualquier jugador de rugby quiere, tú quieres jugar contra el best.

37:15Tú quieres proveerse. Y tú quieres tener esos memories cuando te tienes que jugar. Es un gran oportunidad. Obviamente, yo voy a ser muy corto-focados ahora. Pero es bueno tener esos objetivos y aspiraciones.

37:29Alfie Reynolds: Awesome, Seb. Best de la lucha para la Slater Cup en la weekend. Es un gran gran para Gloucester. Es un gran gran gran para todos los fans y para el Prem. Espero que lo hagan bien. Gracias. Gracias. Gracias.

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40:24Charlie Morgan: So great to have Seb Atkinson on the pod. The Gloucester in England man had to wait his time, didn't he, to get back in the England squad towards the end of the Six Nations as we mentioned Gloucester with a big win Harlequin's absolutely rubbish Bath hammering Saracens on Friday night I wanted to pick up though with a point Charlie that you have already mentioned something you mentioned in our WhatsApp over the weekend of the playoff race and have we already seen it whittled down to five teams vying for the four positions Yeah that was a point I thought about after watching Saracens to be honest and just seeing a side that they weren't bringing There was a couple of players that they didn't bring back in Maratoji and Jamie George, but they seemed kind of well set up to have a real tilt at this block of the season.

41:09Charlie Morgan: And after the first 10 minutes where they looked like a coherent team, they looked really poor. Mark McCall doesn't mince his words after games like that. And as we said before this recording, he's having to do that a lot this year. And I just feel like with them slipping off, they're now in sixth, having lost six of their 11 games. It does feel like they are hanging on by their fingernails. Below them, Sale are already all but mathematically out of the...

41:33Alfie Reynolds: They're 12 points behind them.

41:35Charlie Morgan: Yeah.

41:35Alfie Reynolds: And only one place below them.

41:36Charlie Morgan: And then you're left with Saints at the Top, Bath, Leicester, Exeter, Bristol, who are all beyond the 35-point mark and all looking just like more coherent teams. And that's kind of... It's a reflection on how well they're playing, their Texcola identity, pero también un poco preocupante, y yo sé que con la 10-team league, como tú le dices, que ellos no van a ser feliz con cómo su season va y que se va a fallar de la pace, pero el lack de variety de este parado, con 7 rounds, es un poco concerning, un poco strange. ¿Es que es worrying? Estamos diciendo que el año el partido de la playa es tan fuerte, es tan competitiva, que es porque hay muchas veces de la gente en la league, Así que hemos tenido muchos equipos que han muy similar records.

42:26Charlie Morgan: ¿Qué es lo que hicimos de esto? ¿Es lo que hicimos de los equipos de la liga y un equipo de formación y fortunes?

42:34Alfie Reynolds: Sí, es reflejado... Tengo dos puntos diferentes que hacer aquí. ¿Es reflejado? Así que hemos hablado de esto mucho. El Premio de lo que los jugadores de los games terminaron en 7 puntos. Lo que hicimos un gran cosa. Y ellos nos han demostrado este gráfico cada vez. Si hemos tenido el punto de vista entre todos nuestros games y el mayor número de jugadores. compared to lots of other competitions. And now that's just not true anymore. And so they've slightly tweaked it to be the most unpredictable league in the world. So there's that, but you kind of go...

43:01Charlie Morgan: But the danger of this, in what the league table is telling us, is it is becoming more predictable.

43:05Alfie Reynolds: Well, but that's what I mean. And so, actually, it's rare, though, in the last 10 years, maybe, that we've got this far out and gone, there's only really going to be five or six that are going to get in here. But the second point I was going to make is, I wonder how much the Champions Cup por ejemplo, throw the snow globe a bit porque hay que Northampton y Bath que son likely to win su última 16 games y luego play each other en la quarterfinal hay que a Sale-Quinz game que ambos de ellos es el único que tienen que se ha left en su season y en el momento que back Sale aunque no es el estupido pero que knows porque Quins can solo be mental y chuckle a random win in there

43:45Charlie Morgan: es importante que Saints fueron en ese position last año y se han sumido Bain, having retained their title defence, did not go very well. It was a bit like a Liverpool in the football. Yeah, it came in. But they were able to put their eggs in the basket of the Champions Cup.

44:00Alfie Reynolds: And look, those are massive games. A big last 16, big quarterfinal, back-to-back. And someone's going to get injured and someone's going to fall out of that. Or someone's going to go deeper in it, like Bath. And then, as much as their squad is incredibly deep and everything else, that gets tested the deeper you go. porque el siguiente game después de que sería Toulouse o Bordeaux. Y yo sort de go, ¿cuáles son de la hora de la hora de la semana de May, cuando estamos en la semifinales de la Champions Cup, la picture ha cambiado un poco, no en términos de donde se están en la league y el hecho de que hay un gap entre 5 y el resto, pero el hecho de que muchas cosas han cambiado durante el año pasado, para que lo que sea, que lo que sea, o que sea, o que Thomas de Toye, es ban, you don't know what's going to happen in that next few months which then flicks it around because you look at it at the moment, you go Saints and Bath surely are going to be 1 and 2 in whatever order and be a home semi and then you also look at whoever's going to finish 3rd or 4th, incredibly unlikely to beat them away from home, right?

45:06Alfie Reynolds: I think, I have a theory about this

45:08Charlie Morgan: I think Leicester will not, I think Leicester away to Bath would be a hard sell. I think Leicester away to Saints. I think Leicester would fancy Saints away. The local rivalry thing, just how they match up a size. I think what's quite nice is that certainly that top three, I do think it will be a mad scramble for... I do think it will be a mad scramble for fourth. I can see those three consolidating and securing those top three and I actually think they match up really well. That Styles make fights thing, I think that's quite a cool little blend at the top there.

45:43Alfie Reynolds: And we said it, I think antes de la Six Nations, pero es un gran marco de la creación si hubiera un East Midlands derby y un Bristol Bath derby como los semifinals.

45:52Charlie Morgan: El Bristol Bath semi last año fue un banger, ¿no?

45:55Alfie Reynolds: Y ya se winde up Ellis Gendrell week y ya se ha hecho, ¿verdad? Sí.

45:59Alex Lowe: Sí, creo que lo hemos visto previously es que se trata de la Europa y usar este sprint que tenemos ahora para asegurar a la semifinal de la semana más fácil. No importa si se ha hecho si se ha hecho Just try and secure a top two as early as possible. So then you can ease off for a bit in the league and not worry about it to try and progress in Europe. I think you're right Will about the nature of this league has been unusual for the Prem. But the league is split. Like Bristol in fifth have won eight out of 11. And Saracens in sixth have won five. And it gets worse from there. Whereas in previous years Saracens would have a better record.

46:41Alex Lowe: Sale in seventh would have a better record. y es un poco más 3 wins 11 Sí, así que sale en la última 16 de la Champions Cup cuando se ha tenido 5 5 liga wins entre los dos es mad pero creo que es el hecho que Saracens y sale 6th y 7th han sido tan unpredictable o inconsisten y cuando se los se los mal que no hay que haber tenido que haber que extra nivel de competición creo que 6th y 7th en los últimos años hemos tenido que haber sido en el playoff hunt por lo largo es solo que pasa que ambos han droppedado markedly

47:20Charlie Morgan: You may well be right, es una de esas cosas que los teams go up y down y tal y tal hay un poco que hay que haber ido down pero no creo que hay que haber ido hay que haber ido muy bien que han improved Si ve lo que el table, Northampton y Exeter han both improved massively de la última vez de la domestic form de la Champions Cup final Barth, Leicester, Bristol I think you can make the case they're probably around a similar where they were. Bartholk looked pretty dominant. Leicester and Bristol are both kind of in the mix for the playoffs. But then Sarri, Sale, Gloucester, Quinns have all, I think you could say, got worse.

47:52Charlie Morgan: Newcastle. Slightly better because they've won again. Slightly better, yeah, because they've won. But they're still bottom of the table. And they could have beaten Saints, weirdly. Not weirdly, but they could have beaten them.

48:02Alfie Reynolds: That would have been the top side losing to the bottom side at home.

48:05Charlie Morgan: Yeah, but I think there is probably, particularly with Sale and Sarri, an underperformance based upon where we all thought they were going to be.

48:14Alfie Reynolds: And actually, to extend your point, perhaps, if you were to take a two-year view of it, Saints haven't really improved. They've just had one season where they bottomed out and they've gone back to where they were before, haven't they? So I think you're right. I think you're right that Exeter and maybe Exeter have done the same where they had a season where they almost overperformed, then they underperformed, and now they're back to sort of performing donde se puede estar de nuevo que me parece que me parece

48:39Charlie Morgan: como me quiero muy David muy David creo Leicester es un interesante para mí y probablemente que se ha sido en mi mente ha sido en el día pero Jeff Parling fue puto a él creo que si hubiera tiempo para reflexionar cómo se ha ido en la vida en la vida de los tantos internacional caps en la vida en la vida Dan Cole Ben Young Andre Pollard Julio Montoya y he had the figure of caps that he'd lost at his fingertips so he's very he seems to me a very self-deprecating guy he's very wary of saying anything that could be blown up into a headline but I think he was very aware of what he was taking on and I think he's doing really well they look as he said himself they will never disregard sort of set piece solidity at Leicester that won't Their supporters won't allow that to happen.

49:35Charlie Morgan: The culture of the club won't allow that to happen. But the way they're moving the ball to space is really impressive and the sign of a side evolving. And that was kind of crystallised in their Bones Point try with the whole stadium telling them to kick the ball off and Freddie Stewart going cross field to Billy Searle to set up Gabe Hemmerweb. That was a really good snapshot of how they're progressing.

49:55Alfie Reynolds: I find Leicester fascinating because, and this is going to sound es un poco de un backhanded compliment pero me lo digo genuinely si lo que suele su parte de su parte de la base y usted va a pensar que no es un 9, 10, 12 que se ven el título pero luego se juega y usted va a pensar

50:16Charlie Morgan: Billy So el mejor flyer de la ciudad

50:19Alfie Reynolds: ha sido sensational y parece que se ve un buen pero ha sido amazing y luego que hace me pensar que hay algo intangible at Tigers, this kind of whatever the chaos, there's this enduring standards around the club, like they've been in carnage for a decade and they're still in Prem Finals, they've still won a title, they're still in the playoff hunt most years, they still largely have a winning record there's one season with Dan McKellar where they were pretty crap, but like they've had a random one season with Checker, they've now had Parling they've had the whole Borswick thing and then him and all of his staff getting torn out and they still are there and maybe that compares so badly to somewhere like Harlequins where you go their carnage has caught up with them and now look at them whereas you go Tigers just sort of exist in this kind of weird position where nothing is stable until maybe the Piling era I think they would hope that the problem with that is that the better he gets the more likely he is to probably get a test job isn't he, which is the Borthwick situation but you go, this is a club that is constantly in flux but always in positions 1-5 in the league?

51:32Alex Lowe: I think they sort of know who they are and what they stand for and that's what Laurie Dalrymple was conceding when we went and did the pod three months ago that Quinn's have lost all sense of who they are as a club, what their DNA is you talked about re-centering Gloucester have struggled for such an established traditional club, they're not en la manera que te esperaba un club como Gloucester. En la época de tiempo, ellos han sido uno de los mejores clubes en la league.

52:03Alfie Reynolds: 20 años. Sí. Ellos existen 7-9. Sí. Con el odio de anomalía.

52:08Alex Lowe: Que un club como Gloucester no debería tener porque de la ayuda de la ayuda de la ayuda de la área, y de la ayuda de la ayuda de la región, y de la parte de la región. Como Bath. Como Bath, sí. Hasta la última tres años. Yo estaba en la estufa en la semana y pensando, bueno, tú tienes dos clubes aquí en la misma... They both went into the Six Nations in a whole. And Gloucifer have come out of it with a bit more sense of who they are and what they want to be. They went and Chris Boyd hasn't actually, I don't think he's officially started, but there's been a lot of conversations with Chris Boyd.

52:38Charlie Morgan: Was he there this weekend?

52:40Alex Lowe: Was he there? I don't know. I don't think so. I didn't see him. I did look for him. I didn't see him. I don't think... I would have spotted him. I don't think he was there. pero el que es el guía, el guía que es realmente el godfather de todo lo que Northampton han construido en la última década que es un buen piece de recruitment si flip that to Quinns, que han sido en este global search for DOR desde December y aún no han llegado a anywhere el único news que tenemos es que Warren Gatland pulled out of the conversation por ejemplo there's chat that Robbie Deans has signed up in a similar role to Chris Boyd as an advisor another wise Kiwi and yet there's no confirmation from the club that that's even happened so they've emerged from the Six Nations window in exactly the same place they were going into it and Gloucester are not a great team but they had a set piece and while the club kind of went too far away from that as their fundamentals over the last 18 months They've just sort of gone right.

53:46Alex Lowe: Well, we've got a set piece. So let's go and smash Harlequins in the scrum and do them in the line-out because Harlequins have got nothing. They literally had nothing. And so back to the original point about Leicester, they've always had, you always know what the Leicester way is. It's something to, there's like a theme or a thread through the chaos that you should always be able to fall back on something. And Queens are falling back on nothing. Gloucester have, I think through this, through the Prem Cup, through the Six Nations, Ha fallen back on, right, we know that we can At the very least get a foothold in the game Because we've got a scrum and a line-up

54:21Alfie Reynolds: And that's maybe the fortune of Tigers Their DNA is Scrum, maul, set-piece, fight, dog, spirit Whereas Quinns' DNA is loose Attacking, swashbuckling, entertaining Which you can't fall back on Whereas Tigers can Fall back on a DNA Because they are the fundamentals of the game Whereas Quinns can't because you can't do the lovely stuff without the foundation and so if they don't have a foundation they can't inject their DNA

54:54Alex Lowe: and Marcus is there trying to make things happen behind a pack that's not winning any collisions not winning any set piece and he was forcing it there was nothing on so he'd fall back to try a cross kick that would go straight out or would not work he's trying to make stuff happen behind nothing

55:13Charlie Morgan: I remembered why I asked about Chris Boyd I think I can see his nose in the celebration video, I think that's him isn't it there you go, I remembered just as I asked

55:22Alfie Reynolds: you've spotted his nose, quite literally his nose and his nose, his eyes and his

55:29Charlie Morgan: top of his head and I think he gets cut out of it very quickly, that's an amazing side profile identification from Charlie this is why we signed him up, this details man

55:39Alex Lowe: so at Quinn's we had George Skivin Lavington sitting alongside me for 20 minutes of the second half. For the rest of the game he was in the row behind. Chris Boyd wasn't there with the coaches. So he must have been watching.

55:52Charlie Morgan: He just got in there for the victory song. Yeah, just in to lead the song.

55:55Alex Lowe: What is there?

55:56Alfie Reynolds: Because everyone's got one, don't they? Who doesn't have a victory song?

55:59Charlie Morgan: We never see Bath. There's having a victory song and then there's putting it on social media. Do you have one if it's not? Yeah, well that's it, yeah.

56:06Alex Lowe: The Gloucester song is the same as the England song. It was Johnny May.

56:10Alfie Reynolds: Yeah, BK. Yeah.

56:12Alex Lowe: Sí, bueno, el inglés, los inglés, los que se han reído, los lyrics cada vez.

56:15Alfie Reynolds: Sí, el bit que se ve es el bit que es el bordeón. Sí, sí.

56:19Alex Lowe: No sé si el Quindros ha tenido un victorio de la victoria. No he tenido mucha oportunidad de practicar. Es muy cierto.

56:24Charlie Morgan: Pero en Gloucester, por lo menos, si lo han visto en tu reporte de Skivington, Alex, lo que es muy fascinante, lo que dijo que, last año, ellos focusedan un ataque, y ellos han tenido un gran ataque, y luego el expense de eso fue su de su set-piece. I'm always kind of like If you're really good at set piece Why can't you layer on the attack As well as the set piece

56:44Alex Lowe: Because you went down there pre-season And spoke to him Yeah all about how this Attacking evolution Because they've been a bit like Exeter They could just rely on Scrum, line-out, close-range tries Red zone conversion would be really high And they had this huge shift Where they suddenly went We're too good to play And that piece was

57:07Alfie Reynolds: Pero hablando con James Lightfoot-Brown, y Don Maldock, el equipo de defensa coach, y James Lightfoot-Brown came from the London Irish, así que es el objetivo de jugar lo que se ve, jugar lo que se ve, todo eso. Y también, también, lo que se veía que lo que se veía, lo que se veía que era un trend de la game, que era el mismo, ¿no? Charli did un interesante, un deep dive into cómo se veía por qué se veía de la gente en el de los puntos en el Sunday Times. Y eso es donde la game ha ido, y es que se va a seguir, probablemente. Pero, sí, creo que lo que se veía con el Áfrio. Es como, por hacer el ataque, ¿por qué significa que también te ignoran el set pieza y el lineal y todo eso?

57:44Charlie Morgan: Si te crees de Gloucester under Skivington, ellos han tenido un periodo donde se había un driving wall que era totalmente unstopado. Pero no se puede jugar ni otra manera. Y entonces, que era lo que era. Y entonces, ellos han tenido un periodo last año donde Thomas Williams es el jugador de la temporada. Y ellos han estado en el partido y te crees que se puede ser increíble. Pero no se han sido tan bien. Some of it is simply time. You have a finite amount of time in the week and you put your chips towards certain things. We saw that with England, didn't we?

58:16Alfie Reynolds: The Italy thing, it was clear that they'd just gone, right, well, let's just be hard to beat. And I know we were not that hard to beat in the end. And then the France week, it was like, oh, wait, hang on, we could probably move the ball. And again, you did a piece. In the first 30 seconds, minute, you went, oh, ambition. They're suddenly not looking to just kick. They're actually going to try and pass.

58:35Alex Lowe: Y part of it is a decision that you make. Si hay un line-out en la opposition 22 y quieres play, o un line-out en la opposition half y quieres play, no tienes que practicar tu mauling en la week o no tienes que elegir la opción en la game porque tienes que decidir que tu identidad es algo más. El perfecto balance es que la opposition no sabes cuál es uno que te va a turnar. Y eso ultimately es... Y, finalmente, para rewind, se quedó tan predictable porque solo tenía una approach. Y esos games, cuando estaban struggling a reactar a la lucha a Scotland, estaban tan predictable en cómo se played.

59:13Alex Lowe: Entonces, ellos rocken en Francia y Ben Spencer, quien es un gran gran manager, pero para England, ha sido un gran piso de la boca, kicking nueve. Suddenly, él está haciendo breaks, él está haciendo un step, y se ve lo que es en y luego los defensa no saben lo que es coming atlos entonces el suites spot es que hay ambos y Glossos son de la vez de uno a la otra y realmente su perfecto plan plan es en el medio

59:41Alfie Reynolds: muy rápido es lo que Barthol es porque yo me acuerdo de la rec un poco recientemente antes de la Six Nations y preguntar ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? ¿por qué? La frontera es scoring cada week. Ahora lo que a ellos. La weather changes. El play the ball wide. Arendelle scoring intercepts. Cross-field kicks. Russell's taking the mickey. They've got both things.

1:00:06Charlie Morgan: You want variety, don't you? Just I wanted to bring it back round all the way to Leicester. And there's sort of a real moment that crystallised the identity of the club. Joe Hayes came off, I think, with about 10 minutes to go. The ovation he got, I think, for... The scrum battle was really even... I thought George Kloster was really good for Bristol. So it wasn't necessarily just for that game. y el reconocimiento de cómo he ha ido en el Sixth Nation es muy muy muy muy muy bien ¿Has ningún stock rízen más en el último tres a seis meses en inglés rugby que Joe Hayes?

1:00:35Alfie Reynolds: I do like that educativo rugby crowd que es un cliché pero también como, este clap es para tu Sixth Nation performance, no necesariamente

1:00:43Charlie Morgan: para hoy, bueno Joe Lads, as always, time es against us a little bit, so we need to wrap up I think next week we should maybe set aside a bit more time to chat about sale, porque what on earth has gone on there para los que se predicen que sal might be winning the premio this year. Including the premiership rugby CEO and myself, just to put my hand up there. It's not looking good. Oh yes, you did. I did, yeah, unfortunately. Let's not go. We ran out of time.

1:01:04Alfie Reynolds: We flip-flopped, didn't we? It was me and you at the launch.

1:01:08Charlie Morgan: Yeah, what did I say? And I said Bath. And then you said

1:01:10Alfie Reynolds: I think it's going to be Bath, but I'm going to say sale. And I was like, you can't bottle it and have two answers. So then you went, right, I'll go sale then. And I bullied you into a terrible answer, basically. Well, I'd rather have a terrible answer than backing.

1:01:20Charlie Morgan: But no, never mind. Let's not go there. Big weekend coming up just to finish on for the Prem. We've got the three back-to-back Saturday games. The Bonanza. Yes, so I'm going to be in Cardiff for Bristol-Quins. It's Gloucester-Leicester at Villa and then Sarri's-Northampton at Tottenham as well. We've seen them do this over the last few years, haven't they? But it's, yeah, looking forward to it.

1:01:40Alfie Reynolds: There's a joke in there about Tottenham somewhere, isn't there? About seeing some quality sport or tries. Although Sarri's, maybe not so much.

1:01:46Alex Lowe: Yeah, I think that would be quite a good occasion at Tottenham. Dizzy Rascal. Dizzy Rascal. Yeah. el Villar es, creo que el primer signo de lo que un pro-franchise en Birmingham might look like el Slater Cup, los de la Leste la unión de los dos clubes que tienen ahora es muy importante y es muy importante y yo espero que funciona a Villar Park porque no creo que los selles pero si pudiera añadir un extra big game y es un reyendo de la conversación lo que la liga se va a ver si hay tens de thousands en Cardiff, 40 ,000 plus en Tottenham, se puede que un gran crowd de Villa que se puede construir en y hacer que un gran fixture.

1:02:31Alex Lowe: Se ve muy bien para la liga. Y, de nuevo, back a mi punto de lo que la competición se va a ver. No es solo lo que significa Gloucester y Leicester que se va a jugar en la liga. Es como la liga se va a showcarse.

1:02:44Alfie Reynolds: ¿Faíritas Dizzy Rascal? ¿Qué es un disco song? I have to remember them. You've got to have these off the tip of your tongue. Come on, dance with me. Holiday. That one. Holiday. Dirty stinking bass. That's a good one. Are you going to take one? I know a dizzy rock. What are you laughing about? Nothing. Just because it's not Spice Girls, you think. He doesn't know about this. Bonkers, obviously. Well, what's yours? Holiday's good. Yeah. A pina colada, whatever you are, the white wine, that's fine. Just give me a lager. You know, that one.

1:03:10Charlie Morgan: I can't top that.

1:03:12Alfie Reynolds: That's straight for YouTube, that one.

1:03:13Charlie Morgan: en la nota, vamos a dejarlo ahí Lás, un placer as always, Charlie, you were at some champ rugby over the weekend I was, yeah, yeah, yeah I was a bit absentmindedly, didn't squeeze in my point when we were talking about the sort of teams going down and what jeopardy that looks like because I think of the uncertainty of the champ I want to shout out my wife Abs it was a family affair my boy was mascotting for Richmond and watched about two minutes of the game, there was somebody with a kite y el posto, así que es que se ha jugado con eso un poco más. Pero Ab's made un buen punto diciendo que este es el variedad de la liga.

1:03:48Charlie Morgan: You've got un equipo en Cornish Pirates que creo que han fluctuado entre being full-time pero muy dedicado. They had a guy Will Beckinsall que se ha jugado. He's un excelente. Scrum Half, he's been at Exeter Chiefs. Y ellos están jugando. Richmond, who are sort de towards el bottom de la liga, que son part-time y sus programas son diferentes. Y es muy interesante cuando somebody que comes in y es sort de unfamiliar con eso es sort de como, ¿cómo es que allowed? ¿Cómo a full-time athlete es playing against part-time athletes? And obviously Pirates won 66-13. And she was like, well, obviously. And you're like, yeah, no, that's a good point.

1:04:22Charlie Morgan: Yeah, exactly. And it's also, I mean, it's the can of worms that we can't open now. We don't have too much time for. But I think also enhances their argument for why the Prem has done what it's done and the disparity between it and the champ. And they might say it's because of the cutting in funding. I think it was before that anyway. But yeah, really, really interesting. Lads, we'll have to leave it there. Same time next week, we'll be back with you. If you want to send us an email, there's quite a lot that we got into today in terms of the newsy stuff of James Dyson, the direction of the league, or any of the match things, or what Seb Atkinson spoke about in that interview.

1:04:53Charlie Morgan: The email address is theruckatthetimes.co.uk. Thank you very much for listening. You can also watch us now on YouTube. Head over to the Times Sport YouTube page. Make sure you subscribe. I'll be back with you next week.

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