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The State of It

23 Sep 2025 · 2m

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Introducing...The State of It

In short

Introduction to “The State of It,” a political podcast by The Times and The Sunday Times, promising behind-the-scenes reporting on British politics. Guests/hosts: Steven Swinford (political editor, The Times), Caroline Wheeler (political editor, The Sunday Times), Patrick Maguire (chief political commentator, The Times).

Key claims

they will “take you inside the room where it happens,” combining knowledge from meetings with politicians, sharing “gossip” and “inside track,” and revealing what MPs say behind the scenes that they “would never say in public.”

Notable examples

conversations where policies are formulated and “coups start,” plus coverage of MPs’ human traits and “monumental egos,” framed as “proper reporting” rather than punditry.

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0:01Welcome to The State of It, the political podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times. I'm Steven Swinford, the political editor of The Times.

0:11Steven Swinford: And I'm Caroline Wheeler, the political editor of The Sunday Times. And I'm Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator for The Times. And we have a single mission statement here.

0:20Gabriel Pogrund: We're going to take you inside the room where it happens. We're going to give you the combined knowledge of all of the breakfast, lunches and dinners that we have with politicians. we are going to give you the gossip, the inside track and we're going to give it to you fresh every time.

0:34Steven Swinford: If you've ever wanted to be a fly on the wall in some of those most interesting conversations where policies are formulated, where the coups start we are going to bring you inside those conversations at quite frankly the most interesting time of British politics that I think I've ever been here for.

0:52Patrick Maguire: Yeah, and we'll crock open our phones and tell you what MPs are really saying behind the scenes the stuff they would never say in public. In short, we're going to do proper reporting, not boring old punditry about years gone by.

1:10Gabriel Pogrund: And most of all, it's going to be fun, because, look, we report every day on people, often with monumental egos, doing extraordinary things, some of them good, some of them absolutely terrible, but they are human beings with human frailties, and we will bring all of that to you and insight into what these people are actually like. So please, listen to the state of it, download it wherever you get your podcasts and we'll be here to inform and to entertain you.

From the publisher

Real reporting from the coalface of British politics. Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Caroline Wheeler, Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund as they give you the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight.

No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, as only those who live it can.

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