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8 Sep 2026 · 41m · 15 chapters

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Bridezilla or Justified?! Abbey’s Sister Elle & Scott on Pre-Wedding Chaos & Brutal Scandals!

In short

Abbey Clancy and her husband BP Crouch host Abbey’s sister Elle and Elle’s fiancé Scott to discuss pre-wedding chaos, “bridezilla” moments, and wedding planning fallout. They also react to wedding-themed advice/“agony aunt” questions about exes at weddings and workplace pay resentment, plus a viral Irish cheating-scandal wedding story.

Guest backgrounds

Elle is Abbey’s younger sister; she’s a close part of the Clancy family and is planning a New York wedding soon. Scott is Elle’s long-term partner/fiancé (they mention being engaged/married via civil ceremony) and is integrated into Abbey’s husband’s friend group.

Key claims

Scott is accused of “adding things” (extra invites/table changes) and Elle’s bridesmaid dress order was a disaster due to wrong fabric. A videographer cancelled 7 days before. They’re relying on help from “Mikey” who redesigned/made multiple dresses after a dress was ripped during fitting.

Notable examples

Civil ceremony nerves (Scott sweating/quiet, Elle giggling). Nashville “best weekend” planning trip. Viral story: a bride lets a cheating fiancé’s family watch his exposure on a big screen during the wedding, then still parties. Agony aunt: should an ex-girlfriend be invited? Answer: cut the cord; ex shouldn’t attend if it upsets the bride.

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Chapters

0:03

Wedding Plans Unfold

Discussion on the wedding details and pre-wedding chaos.

“Have you been putting off that annual doctor's appointment because you don't want to make the call?”
3:00

Wedding Plans Unfold

Discussion on the wedding details and pre-wedding chaos.

“I can't say boyfriend is at least a fiancé.”
4:18

Bridesmaid Dress Decisions

Controversy over bridesmaid dress choices and opinions.

“No, I'm obviously made of honour, but Elle's bridesmaid dresses are cream.”
5:08

Mom's Involvement in the Wedding

Discussion about the mother's role and involvement in the wedding.

“You planned golf the morning of the wedding.”
7:30

Emotional Connections and Memories

Sharing memories and emotions regarding the wedding and family ties.

“It's like nowadays these weddings, they go on for like five days.”
9:40

Wedding Entertainment and Traditions

Conversations about music, entertainment, and wedding traditions.

“Well she was in the hopped up with the whole Tottenham team at one stage.”
14:00

Wedding Anticipation and Challenges

The hosts discuss their excitement and challenges leading up to the wedding.

“I think my dad had a shirt unbuttoned to here at 3am in a club in Dublin.”
21:41

Navigating Wedding Drama and Audience Questions

The hosts navigate wedding planning drama and address audience questions, including a relatable work scenario.

“The wife you have to admit that you are lying.”
28:00

Wedding Cheating Scandal in Ireland

A couple discusses a shocking wedding incident involving infidelity and public humiliation.

“And like, you know, you do want to help them.”
29:50

Nashville Bachelorette Party Highlights

Recall of a vibrant bachelorette party in Nashville with planned activities and fun moments.

“This was the one that we saw the other day.”
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31:00

Fashion Dilemmas and Vintage Finds

A lighthearted chat about fashion challenges and discovering vintage treasures.

“Why do women say that, though, when they've got so much to wear?”
33:10

Wedding Guest Drama and Plus-Ones

Discussion about wedding guest etiquette and the complexities of inviting exes.

“I need your judgment on something because my boyfriend thinks I'm being ridiculous.”
36:30

Wedding Ceremony Experiences

Personal anecdotes about wedding ceremonies and the pressure of speeches.

“He's actually not coming to our wedding because it's the same weekend as his friend's wedding.”
39:10

Speech Worries and Nan's Reactions

Concerns over wedding speeches and how to avoid embarrassing moments in front of family.

“Do you know how I'm making everyone, he took it really seriously, making everyone sit down now, please.”
42:01

Pre-Wedding Chaos and Family Dynamics

Explore the humorous and chaotic experiences surrounding wedding preparations and expectations.

“He thinks I need to relax because that's what weddings are for.”
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2:26Well, he's broke before hers. Facts. Always. Talk to my sister like that. Don't you start. Jesus Christ. Just because you're older doesn't mean you're not down for a dirty joke. These gilfs are game. These gilfs are game. Ladies and gentlemen, my husband. Hello and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abbey Clancy. I'm BP Crouch. And our special guest today, my gorgeous little sister and her boyfriend, Scott. I can see how this one's going to go. Oh, it hasn't even started. There's still time. There's still time. There's not. Boyfriend. We're too late. I'm joking. She could be boyfriend. I said boyfriend.

3:07She said to me already. You got boyfriended already. Yeah, but I didn't know if... I can't say boyfriend is at least a fiancé. We're married. We've been engaged for three years. We're eventually married. You're not supposed to be married. But I didn't know if we were telling people you're married yet. Because obviously they did the civil ceremony. It's a secret marriage. The big wedding is obviously in New York very soon. But you actually did get married. We did the same thing actually the night before. We did, we did. I turned up in a white dress in class. Were you white dressed in it? I called me the morning of and she was like, I'm late.

3:42I turned up in a white dress. You turned up in a white suit. It was butter lemon. Fucking hell. Oh, that was, oh, look at these bitches. Look at these, they're outrageous. Outrageous. Did you wore a white dress at your sister's wedding? Can you believe it? Guys, have you seen what I'm wearing now? I've got no clothes. We're living out of boxes. And I found it was a butter lemon. Cream. Two-piece suit. Otherwise known as cream. It wasn't cream. But a big day. Scott, you're such a... Hold on, the big day has not arrived quite yet. No, she's not. It's happening soon. I am wearing a white dress for that.

4:20Are you actually wearing a white dress? No, I'm obviously made of honour, but Elle's bridesmaid dresses are cream. It's your decision, Elle. It's my decision. You've made a lot of decisions. Bridezilla's decision. Bridezilla. Amber yesterday tried a bridesmaid dress on. I was like, can I put a split in it to there? I was like, no. I was actually like, yeah, you can. Can I send you that dress for Liv? And you were like, no. Because it looked like a can-can girl. with Halloween dress. It was horrendous. Lift that little bubble thing. The little frilly thing. It was awful. So we are recording a podcast here.

5:00We're not having a family-led debate. As you can see, there's been loads of input for me here. Yeah, have you not had a great deal to do with it? Because I did loads. Did you actually do loads? No. I planned most of it. You just turned up. You planned golf the morning of the wedding. We've yet to plan golf. Have we planned our golf day? Yep. I thought the Sunday could be a possibility. You come down Sunday. You can't. He's going to do a boat trip. Who's doing a boat trip? Me. Can I go? I haven't planned it yet. Someone take this bitch up the list. But how are you feeling? Is it trepidation, anxiousness, excitement?

5:41How are you feeling? I haven't been a bag of nerves. I'm actually okay, but I usually just get nervous the day of. But for the civil, I was really nervous. And then at the civil, I was fine. Scott was quaking. He was dripping in sweat. He was green. I thought he was going to run out the room. I was like, you cheeky bastard. You should be like, you should be smiling from ear to ear, not shaking. In the middle of the ceremony, I remember in the middle of the ceremony, I just got, I've never seen Scott so quiet. What am I supposed to be doing chatting in the middle of this? I got the giggles in the middle of it.

6:10You got the giggles. You got the giggles on us, didn't you? I couldn't stop laughing. I got the giggles and I heard my mum going, El, would you stop bloody laughing? She was right behind me. I was like, sorry, Catherine. Oh. How has your mum been, Scott? She's buzzing. Yeah, mum's mad. Your mum's just obviously known your mum. Your mum's so family-orientated. We love Catherine. She adores El. Yeah, she adores El. I like a daughter. You have won the luxury with El, though, to be fair. Yeah, she's the best. She's the best. Mum loves El. She's been... Same old, same old. El and mum are like best friends.

6:41They speak more than me and mum do. But isn't that a lovely thing, though? Mum never had a wedding so we've half said this that it was like from the beginning we were like yeah she never got married Mum and Dad have been together like 28 years but never had a wedding so from the beginning we were doing this for her kind of a little as well we wanted to do like the whole thing with her and like be involved in as much of it as we could and she's on the even yesterday she was like now what can I do for you and don't worry because when we get there I'll have everything there my sisters are there and you don't need to do a thing and da da da da and she's been amazing and she got her outfit she got her outfit she got her outfit about 8 months ago didn't she It's been hanging on in the sperm room.

7:15It's a butter lemon. She wouldn't do that. She wouldn't do that. No, no, no, no. She wouldn't. You got her her day two dress, did you? I got her the day two dress at the wedding shop. It's a fucking day two thing. What do you mean day two? Abby calls me every day and goes, I haven't got me day two outfit. I'm like, neither have I. It's like nowadays these weddings, they go on for like five days. Yeah, but I mean, usually you're so hungover. Yeah, no. It's a risk, especially now in our group it's going to be it's going to be it's going to be some ladies turn up it's a powerful group yeah yeah yeah it's a very strong group I've been out with your boys a few times yeah we've done a few nights I have to say for me Scott's a great addition to the family for me yeah absolutely I just think you know we've bonded like like brothers now I believe which we now are yeah yeah yeah you've even both grown your hair at the same time you're the two old casts of the family you lot have absolutely These Clancy women don't know how lucky they've got it.

8:13These are the Clancy's and you and Scott are there. I reckon that was being said since like three months. I gave that to you. I gave that to Scott earlier. Yeah, you did. You started there. You're here. You see, they're working away in here. So did you actually ask my dad for a hand in marriage? Yeah, I asked pretty much ever. I asked. It was important for us. You didn't ask me. No, not you. I asked the decision makers right there. He asked me. I asked John. He spoke to me. Rang John. He spoke to me. Rang John. Did he ring you, Jeff? Yeah, I said fuck off.

8:50I didn't know you rang John. I rang Jeff. But were you just hoping someone would say no? Why did you ring so many people? I played a numbers game there. No, I didn't. Someone, John said, who did I ring? I rang, yeah, Pete, John and Jeff. Three men in your life. I did ring Sean. He was in Dubai. I don't see him as much, so. He didn't have phones. He wouldn't answer the phone anyway. I don't think he'd answer. probably enough he's too busy pumping iron yeah he is but no but Elle Elle is you know I've got my sister Sarah who I adore you know and I've always looked after her she's six years younger than me but Elle Elle's you know on the same level as that to me she was nine years old when I first met Ab sorry when I was with Ab she was nine I'd take her to school so yeah it's beautiful seeing her become the woman she's become you know she's fantastic you know meeting you and getting married I feel quite emotional about it as well do you think you'll cry no I think so yeah because I've known you so long you know you forget well the cries are bloody Britain's got talent so yeah I know for a fact that Elle's balling coming down I can't I'm going to be two hours get my makeup done there won't be one tear out of my perfectly perfectly shimmered eyes shimmered eyes I think I will yeah she was adamant in asking you because she'd always said that her some of her audience memories were too taking her to training or she had a one with sports.

10:10Well she was in the hopped up with the whole Tottenham team at one stage. Yeah with two canoes all cattle and the boys. That's a whole different story but I remember I remember taking her to sports day and it was raining I remember watching her do. That was in what was that place we used to do? Do you remember when we took her to that party and she was a baby and she called us by accident and was effing and blinding? Do you remember? No. And we were like last week you were like you were obviously acting hard in front of all your maids, like saying, fucking this, fuck with that. Me and Pete were horrified, remember?

10:43How old did I have been? You were like 10. That Portsmouth scenario, right? And I apologise, like, I apologise to Scott, I mean, she was 10 years old, right? But I said, look, I've got to do a warm down. I said, oh, you can come with me. And she came with me and I had a warm down, so I did some ice baths, whatever, and then I got in the jacuzzi, but it was like, Carnu, I think it was, it might have been Jermaine Defoe, I love Carnu. Sean Davis, a few of the lads, we were all in the jacuzzi. Did you get me a little really, really swimming costume? Picture that scene. Picture that scene. Elvis in the jacuzzi.

11:17Yeah, but you know, you're only a baby. That's how long I've known you. That was when you lived in Weybridge. I remember you working so much training with Pete and I remember coming back and you were like, what did you do with Elvis today? Pete was like, I don't get to training. And Pete was like, you fucking want. Yeah, go with that. But, you know, I mean, so with regards to the organisation, I've seen you on the laptop. I feel like all you do is just... No, she's on it. She's on it. I took, I looked after, what did I look after? Come on, tell me, give me a list of what you looked after. No, I did bits.

11:49I did, I've done, I've looked after all the music and entertainment side of things. Yeah. I'll give you an 80 % on that because I've done a bit of that. So we were saying, because we were talking, going back to the music and entertainment, I know that Lewis and Sam are both going, and I'm debating because I didn't get, Shallow didn't get brought out in the hen because I kept getting thrown off every stage. Can I be going up on the stage? You know, all these bars and there's bands up singing so I'll get up and sing. You literally get dragged off stage by security. So we try to. Unless you're singing Western, you've got, what your go-to isn't Western, it's Shallow, isn't it?

12:22No, they wouldn't, they wouldn't let us in the air. I could do it. You're going to have to practice. Can you give us a, can you give us a preview? I know, I'll save it. There's going to be a lot of Clancy singing at the wedding now. Oh yeah, we asked Liv to sing the first dance We asked Liv to do our first dance song You're actually going to do that, right? Yeah, 100 % She is going to sing your first dance She's going to sing the first dance She's amazing, our daughter And I said, what are you singing? She was like, die on this hill I was like, oh, romantic You two are going to die on this hill It's different to all When we had a 10-year-old playing the harp When we walked down the aisle What the hell was that about?

12:58There's so many things about our wedding What did you just walk out to again? Nicki Minaj. We had a rendition of that the other night, didn't we? Actually, when you play it. Moment for Life. It's a great song. You used Rough Dates that the other night. Rocked out. Rocked out. Rocked out. Rocked out. But our first dance is due to sometimes you can't make it on your own. Yeah. Have you not gotten any Irish jiggly songs? No, we do. Well, we're doing between like after the dinner. After the dinner, we move into like a room. What about your mate? Who does all the songs? Is he not singing? Jack is. Jack will, without doubt, Jack will be singing.

13:36He'll be entertaining. He'll be entertaining. That's what he does. He's an entertainer. You know, like, whenever I've been to Dublin with you, like, the boys are great, right? That proper Irish music. I love it. I love it. The storyteller is the best pub, I think, it is in Ireland. Remember, remember, Jeff's, was it 60th? Jeff's 60th. 65th, wasn't it? 65th. 65th, remember, yeah? You were doing the worm. You were doing the worm of the club. I think my dad had a shirt unbuttoned to here at 3am in a club in Dublin. It's time of our lives, isn't it? We've done the golf trip there. Oh, yeah, we did that golf trip as well.

14:11All your boys are very close. What do your boys make of Elle? Oh, man, they all love Elle, yeah, yeah. Everyone loves Elle. Yeah, funny, you know, because she's very much just become a part. My group of friends, we've all been friends for, like, 15 years plus. we all like luckily there's maybe 12 or 13 of us as a group of close close friends and like 10 of us end up living in London from Dublin so we were quite lucky in that way and then Elle come along and she just kind of fit right in and she's like yeah she's the people's favourite really isn't she I think if we I would get the group in the divorce I think if you if you split up I think I could I could do a sweet 90 % I think they still speak to Elle maybe if I give the okay if I give the okay because that's that's how close we are I would I would I think they prefer L to you now 90 % of our gang would stick would stick with me in the divorce maybe girlfriends would take your side 100 % I think I'm saying girls and boys I think I get the pick yeah I think she might be right there do you reckon well it is probably before hers fact always what are you laughing at Chris just recently engaged nice did you give him the speech you gave me I did there's a power shift you know so what are you most looking forward what are you most excited about I can't because I'm so I'm so nervous and I feel like I've got a million things to do even though I think everything is pretty much done yeah but the only the only thing we're finding videographer cancelled this morning which is no good oh my god so we have to sort that out Chris you've got a few hands what are you doing next day is it good for you that's it that is so annoying yeah seven days out it's crazy we've got it lined up though I'm buzzing for after dinner before the DJs go on it's like a nice little Irish traditional music session going on at one point Scott was flying in like a ten piece Irish band because the wedding's so late we don't go to dinner to like ten we don't finish dinner to like ten p.m.

16:13so then it was like that from till midnight and I was like but there are English people at this wedding as well so we can't we've got like an Irish singer before an Irish singer singing me down the aisle. Yeah, but not singing Irish songs. Yeah, but you know what? Tag will sing Irish songs. No, but he'll do all his generic stuff. I think I'm actually looking forward to your wedding because weddings are not, I hate weddings usually. I know, see, I know. They're so long and boring and you're like spitting feathers because you don't get a drink for hours. From the second you arrive, we have Katie to boost that whole way through.

16:44He sent us an itinerary of what we're doing, like what we've planned and on every page at the top just says extra bar staff. You've got to be demanded that, like, you don't want to be waiting around for a drink. I remember last time I was in Dublin with you and we went to this amazing, what was the Irish bar, was it Cassidy's? Cassidy's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were all singing Irish music, it's amazing. We're all up singing. We were there. Yeah, but I was there. No, I was there. I was there. Yeah, I know you were all there. I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was a few things and it was like, it was busy, right?

17:13So a couple of people filmed. I said to you, just let me know when the ones, when you sing about how much he hates us and stuff, because I'm singing along. Do you mind if you just give me a note? And he went, sit down for this one. Do the Irish hate the English? I said, you probably should have sat down. They do? You guys fucked us for years. Listen, let's hold it from podcasts. Let's not get into that. There's certain ones where I shouldn't... As an ex-England player, you can't be singing certain songs that you probably shouldn't sing along to. I remember he leaned into me and goes, let me know when I shouldn't be standing up dancing.

17:49and I said, she should sit down ages ago. Ages ago. But listen, I'm on board with it. That's all in the past anyway. We're all good friends now. We've got to laugh every time we've got to laugh. Oh, listen, and I love Ireland. I love your people, love your friends. Your people. As in the Irish nation? Yeah, the Irish nation. Or just the gang? I've always had the best time with the gang and the Irish people. Very, very nice. I love the Irish. What are you most excited for? We bought it in and didn't we? Yeah, I know. I think the day the morning well not the morning the day of the wedding getting ready with all of you and the girls I think would be amazing the one thing I am nervous about is the barbecue the night before yeah I think everyone will get that first night giddiness yeah don't do it because everyone half a piece friends left our wedding at like 10 o 'clock because they were so ill like throwing up and they were just so tired but I do think it would be I do think that would be a great night and it would just be like the immediate gang immediate family and everyone can kind of get to meet up again before the day of do you need to have a cut off for that we'll do like 3 to 9 and then try to cut that yeah yeah yeah you have to I'm staying with you so we're going home together well you probably shouldn't drink you shouldn't drink made of honour I'm giving myself like a 3 drink limit through the day half of my gang are coming for a full week oh we are as well I expect to Dixie today.

19:19He's coming on Sunday. He's coming on Sunday. Yeah, he's coming on Sunday. Yeah. Dixie gets in before us. This is bullshit, this. I'm like, we're bringing four fun crushers with us. I know. I know, but you invited them. I know. We should have just not had them. What time are they getting? I want not to have the kids. What time are they getting? You should have made it compulsory for us. What time are they getting evacuated? You'd be like, oh, Auntie Al, Bradzilla's not letting you come to a wedding. No, if you don't want them there, you tell them. No, I do want them there, but I don't. The girls especially.

19:49They're so excited. The girls are so excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the fact that they're bridesmaids and everything, you know, it's a massive deal for them, isn't it? You couldn't deny them that. No, of course not. Jack and Johnny, you want them there as well, and they're little tuxes, it'd be great. Yeah. I remember I met you when I first got there, Jack couldn't speak, which is mad. Yeah. They're the closest kids I've ever been around, you know what I mean? Even my, like, my own nieces and nephews who weren't around as much. You are good with the kids, to be fair. You actually really are, to be honest.

20:13I would leave them with you at all times. We do. And I plan on continuing to do this. Well, it's your fault you live with us. So we've got some audience ones. I don't know if you've got a weekly wine for each other.

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21:41is there something at the moment is there a wedding themed weekly wine I don't want to split things up before you get married but is there something that you know I don't know is helping a little bit that just keeps adding to this thing that is such bullshit that's exactly how weekly wine goes I keep adding to it you're changing table plans adding people by the set we got the numbers down by like 10 people I was like great Scott was like there's another four to invite can you add them to the list change the table plans da da da da no just say no it's you actually that keeps adding to things give me give me alright give me two things that I have added go on god this feels very familiar what have you added two things two things I have added I feel like there is a few well go on then name them don't put on the spot here but you're on the spot I've been so busy just doing what executing stuff you've been in festivals for four days you've been in in two days you were in Fall Festival Reading, Leeds Notting Hill Carnival and then Bloody Electric Picnic or whatever it was I love that you know all of them I know because I follow her on Instagram ooh she's wet go on give me two things that I've added right I will give you two things go on you've added come on you little bitch I know actually you're stuck in sparring now you've been adding things this week go on then what have you been added go on Pete tell them what have you added go on what have you been added go on you've got ten seconds seconds.

23:05I love it's not me. The wife you have to admit that you are lying. No I'm not lying because this week has been like this. You haven't been here. Don't you know but when I got back when you got back what last night? It was even better I'd hoped. I can see what you're doing here. I just love it. No I take the hat there. Maybe it's up in L but the conversations we've had with people involved in the wedding. There's me and you involved in the wedding. Don't you start. Don't you fucking start. This is garbage. I think the truth of the matter is Scott is adding things by the second. No, no, he sounds to me like he's adding things.

23:46No, I'm adding, I'm adding, I'm adding like people, which isn't great. It's not because the table plans and the menus and everything has gone over and you don't know how long that takes to do. More importantly, who am I sitting next to? Me. I think we'll get, I'll just see how Debra should look. Let's get to the other. Abby's got all her mates coming in. She's like, can I sit with my mates? I was like, no. You sit with me, you count. She was like, oh, who's on my other side? Pete. Oh, great. No, I'm going to separate you two. For fuck's sake. I don't want a stranger next to me. You want a... Hold on.

24:18You're on a tattoo, bro. Did you just say you want a stranger? I don't. I just don't sit me next to someone boring because I can't do small talk. You're next to me. I've already got you on one side. That's enough. You keep going. You're not coming to me. Oh, well, listen, you know, let's all just calm down. Let's all relax. It'll be fine. Leave Scott out of this. It's so funny watching you two do a weekly one. That's exactly how it goes every week for me. I'll say something, really? They'll unload on you. No, but because that was a lie. That was out of order. It was out of order. I feel like all the hectic stuff this week has been from your side, not my side.

24:52Well, the dresses were a disaster. No, there's nothing hectic. We've just been getting things sorted. Thank God for Mikey. So the bridesmaids are my last. Mikey, Mikey, lifesaver. We got back from Nashville. on Monday from the best hen on the planet. And then, and then I went to - Save a horse, ride a cowboy. And then I went to pick up my bridesmaid's dresses on Tuesday morning and they were horrendous. Like the fabric was supposed to be still. To be fair. They were made incredibly well. It's the wrong fabric. It was the wrong fabric. So Elle was traumatized. I was hysterical. I've cried so much.

25:29I've amused. Hysterical. You can imagine. What are you playing? It's a week before the wedding. I've got about 47 bridesmaids. Do you know Scott's leaving to New Yorker before he's even tried to sue on? It's absolutely ridiculous. I just don't. But you're in charge of bringing this. That's already a massive risk as it is. Pete's going to turn up with one tux and I'm going to have no tux. He's going to be walking down the aisle and cold books too. And he'll be walking down the aisle and Pete's trousers, a pair of flares. Scott, this is a massive, you've put a massive, I'll make sure that that talks I've already spoke to them I'm getting half of them picked up tomorrow your friends yours what I've done I've just moved this onto my PA my PA's taking care of it now perfect my PA's taking care of it we can bring them in the car with us we were there was scenes this dress disaster oh yeah so the dresses when Elle rang me and said how much of a panic and the dresses were not the dresses were not what she wanted they were an absolute and total disaster Yeah, yeah.

26:31And then, thank God for Mikey. Mikey's like the creative designer for Mainz. He works with Skepp. And he's a scouser. And he's a scouser. Yeah, yeah. And he does all the creative stuff for Mainz with Skepp. And then he stepped in and he's made... Yeah, I said, do you want to step over to... Did he just make nine dresses? He's made nine. He's actually made 11 dresses. I think he's just left five minutes ago. He's been in there for like three days. The dresses are on the way here now. Sophia tried hairs on last night. got it caught in a got an earring caught in it and ripped the whole dress ripped the whole front of the dress off not even on a seam like put a hole in the dress and ripped we were like me and Abby went Sophia was sobbing so he's made so we've got three spare dresses thank god wow and they're actually on their way here now so Mikey thank you shout out to Mikey well done we've got a message here we've got some audience wines if you wouldn't mind helping us we've got Jen from Ealing big up Ealing hello guys love love love the pod God, I've got a weekly wine for you.

27:31I've been at my company for 11 years. Last month, we got a new hire. Half my age, who does my exact job, was hired on more money than me. And this is the killer. I'm the one who has to train him. He's young ones, trolling. I'm teaching a 23-year-old everything I know so he can be paid more to know it. Do I train him properly out of professional pride or do I accidentally leave a few things out? I'm asking for a friend and that friend is me. I'm not proud that's how we roll in E-Link I'd set him right up I feel like you'd be good to just I'd just let them know they've made a mistake not give you the job I don't know give you the payrolls or something it's a false it has to be you'd have to teach them all the wrong things and just get rid of it imagine training someone to replace you to replace you basically yeah but there's so many rules now isn't there and governs and all these things where people have to like boards to complain to you know we'd have a young player coming through the ranks or we'd sign someone and they'd, you know, you'd be the experienced professional.

28:30You've got to help them. And like, you know, you do want to help them. I do want to help young players. I don't want to, but you don't want to lose your place to shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what'd you do? You know, what'd you do there? I'd stitch them up. John, have we not got no wedding themed agony abs? Oh, no. Did you see that thing in Ireland about the... Oh, the one we were talking about? Any been to? No, no, no. Oh my God, yeah. She caught her fiancé cheating and she went ahead with the wedding and then on the big screen when they were taught they were doing like, he thought he was getting like a load of videos congratulating them and they turned on the screen and it was just him getting called out for being caught cheating on the wife.

29:08But had she married him already? They were at the wedding. His family, everyone there, she didn't call it off and she left it run. Oh my God. And they put up videos of all the like, the texts of him and this other girl and all these photos and all this. Did she marry him? No, obviously not, but they had the wedding and then obviously his family and all stood up, stormed out. And she said that they still partied. She was like, we've already paid for everything. I wasn't going to throw it away. Then she was getting called out for being out of order. And she was like, well, fuck it. That's what you do to it.

29:34Yeah, no, yeah, I get it. But imagine being like at that wedding. Fucking mental. And she said they stayed in bed. His friends and family left, but everyone else stayed and partied. That was crazy. Is this the one who dumped her husband and did that anyway? This was the one that we saw the other day. It was three days before the wedding. And he called her and said, I don't love you. I don't want to marry her and she had the full three day wedding in the dress did the whole three day party that's sweet you could do that friends get behind you and do that that's a bit harsh do you know what I mean yeah it is you could still have a wedding with that no one's been cheated on well you know we've heard a bit about the wedding there that's fantastic but is there anything you want to talk about about the wedding do no no what happened in Nashville stays in Nashville it was very quiet Noshville Tennessee Noshville Tennessee Sorry, did I say Noshville?

30:29That makes me feel violently old. Yeah, yeah. Best weekend of my life. That was amazing. You did so well. I planned it. Like, we literally landed, and from that second, every hour, it was like, we're going here, get changed, we're going here, we're going there. We went line dancing. We had a private line dancing lesson. Did you see the video? Who filmed it? The girl filmed it. I looked great. That was carnage. I looked great. I looked great the whole time. because we'd planned all our outfits and then I didn't have anything to wear. Oh, yeah. Because I had no time for me. Do you get that? Do you get that with your business?

31:03We got that today. I've got nothing to wear. What? Why do women say that, though, when they've got so much to wear? Today, obviously, I've got nothing to wear, but normally. No, at the moment, I genuinely have got nothing to wear. At the moment, you don't because I'm there with you. Because everything's in boxes. We're in boxes, yeah. But normally. Although I do like this T-shirt. It's original 1970s. but I don't like it with the matching drainers. I couldn't buy an air. The same. That's from there as well. I found this amazing vintage shop in the Hamptons and I got them that's an original as well.

31:34We'll have to go back. I know. What else did you do? I received a lot of photos of random people wearing my face. You were in the bin everywhere we went. I got a couple of videos of ads right there again of just my face in the bin. But we had... Because we bar crawl and then we go back to another bar and then Scott's mask would be in the bin in the lift. Just randomly. In the street, like Scott masks? I got a lot of random fellas with my face on. The singer of the main bar on the whole street was on set. There was about 400 people in there and he was there like dancing and singing, singing, he was on the bar, he was like swinging off the things and he just had Scott's face on.

32:18So funny. It was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my life. We did that for John McLean Johnson's 30th. And we all, he had no idea, went to his local pub and we was like 150 people with his face on. But he obviously, he couldn't say hello to anyone because it was just him. So he had no idea where anyone was. I feel like we did that with... There was a few AI images going around as well. Who's the Brummie? No, I'm sure. No, there was a few. Who's the Brummie who says the stairs to the bedrooms? Oh, Dion. Dion. I feel like I've had a Dion mask on as well on stage in my life. Yeah, maybe we have.

32:51I thought it was Dion's party. I wore a Dion mask. Yeah. It was the best week. It was the best week, wasn't it? It was the best week. You did so well. Bravo. Best trip. And even like the little t-shirts. I come out one day and all the girls had these t-shirts on like Elle's last rodeo. And like everyone was in that matching outfit. It was amazing. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was so good. Guys, will you help us with some acne abs? Yes. And then we'll talk more wedding after. Okay. Hi, both. I need your judgment on something because my boyfriend thinks I'm being ridiculous. We've been together for five years and we're getting married next summer.

33:22His ex-girlfriend, who he was with for about six years before me, is still invited to his family weddings and big occasions because apparently she's basically family. No. No, get rid. I've never loved it, but I've always accepted it. However, I've just found out she's coming to our wedding. I said I thought it was a bit strange considering it's literally the day I'm marrying him and he says she's part of the family. And that would be cruel to suddenly uninvite her. His mum agrees with him. I've never met her properly and if I'm honest I don't particularly want to spend my wedding day watching my husband's ex getting drunk with his parents.

33:57Am I being a massive bridezilla or should the ex be the one person who doesn't get an invite help? Anonymous. She has got to go. Why is she so hanging around? That's bizarre. I know. I think even from his sake he needs to cut the cord. Cut the cord there, yeah. Even had respect for her, didn't he? Yeah. Are you not allowed to be friends with your ex? No, you can be friends with your ex but if it's something that's going to upset your wife on her wedding day. I think she kind of gets final say on that. But I think you can be civil with your ex but you don't need to by any means be friends, do you?

34:26Those in-laws are definitely pricks. They're pushing that hard, aren't they? Yeah. I think they don't like the new wife. They don't like the new. No. They don't like the new. They like the old one. That's like, is it meet the fuckers, you know, when the guy's like surfing and it was just a physical thing. Like, what? What? We watched that the other day, didn't we? I love it. Just a stupid physical fit. Didn't you say it made you really stressed? No, just a stupid sexual based. Did you say it made you really stressed watching that? Meet the fuckers? Did I? Yeah, you were like, I felt so stressed watching that.

35:00And I was like, No, I think I watched stress so I watched it. Oh, so you watched it. I couldn't sleep. That makes more sense than being stressed watching it. Yeah, that's not the one. I couldn't sleep because I had jet lag from Nashville. So people were like, I'll sleep next in. I was like, have you had any dodgy plus ones? Yeah, we've had... Not dodgy plus ones, but we've had, we have, we have a friend. I think it's part of knowing your friends, do you know what I mean? Yeah. So we kind of never took it seriously. We have a friend who asked for a plus one like eight months ago. And we loved each other.

35:31No way, that eight months is going to last. No, no, we both knew that. So we said, yeah, if you're still with her. If you're still with her, no problem, you can bring her. Since then, how many girlfriends has he had? I think we're on like number three. Yeah. And he's still asking for the plus one. How is this hunk? Just look him at the day. Yeah. But now, but now... He seems rampant, that boy. But now, he doesn't look like the type. No, but apparently this is the one. But he's been with him for a while. Yeah, but Lysa was the last one, the one before. No, but yeah, yeah. I meant this one, she's nice.

36:08And she's really, really nice. But they're all nice. But now they've been together a while and he's really happy and she's really nice, but she's not coming. Is he on holiday with her now? So have you put your foot down? So why have you said no then? Because we were like, yeah, she's not if you're still with her. But then there's been another, probably, this is probably the third girl. So there's one of our friends who's just broke up from his fiancée. And they're invited to a wedding. He's actually not coming to our wedding because it's the same weekend as his friend's wedding. And they've just broke up, him and his fiancée.

36:37And she's saying that she's still going to his best friend's wedding because she was invited. She won't go. Oh, she will. She definitely will. She 100 % will. That is... That's so weird. That's so weird. It's brazen. Yeah, it is. That's harsh. But like, she'd have no friends there. Fuck you and all your fucking friends. That's very much an earlier place. I don't think anyone would do that. But I have to say, I never liked her. What was the structure of your wedding? Like, did you have a big, long ceremony or did you have a... We actually got... We were deluded at the time. I remember you walking down the aisle laughing your head off.

37:09Yikes, I got... Stumbling. I'm joking. I got the fits of giggles. Yeah, it was lovely. It was a lovely place and it wasn't too long a service at all. It's very intimidating walking down the aisle. Yeah. You know, it's not like walking down a catwalk. What was weird about our aisle was we walked down and it was tiered like a football stadium. So it went that way and like that. So when you walk down, everyone's directly looking at you. Oh, that's intimidating. Coliseum type thing. Are you scared to walk down the aisle? Yeah, I am. But the only thing... She's scared of falling. That's what she keeps saying.

37:38She goes, my heels are so big. But I know what my dad's like as well and he'll do something stupid. He'll blow up just before I walk down. No, he won't. It's something ridiculous. He gets quite serious, my dad, or he'll probably get giggles as well. But I'm thinking, if he gets the giggles, we've had it. Because when my dad laughs, you can't help but laugh. Is my dad doing a speech? Yes, and my dad's doing the speech. He was so crap at us. But he's so scared. He's got the fear from yours. He doesn't want to do a speech at my sober. He's made it very figgled. I want to get mine done before everyone sits there for dinner.

38:10So my dad's doing the speech at the appetizers. Very lovely. The time he did before, yeah, before we walked into dinner, he's like, I'm just going to get out of the way then. When are you finishing your ball of the tree? That's just because you want to get pissed. No, no, it's because it'll ruin his whole day because he'll be worrying about it. My dad's speech for our wedding was outrageous, wasn't it? It was ridiculous. Everyone was looking around going, what was he talking about? But he's so scared to you whilst he keeps saying, I'm only saying a couple of words and Natty. And I'm like, I'm like, no, you need to be, I'm like, my wedding's going to be so different.

38:37Who else is doing the speech? I have to see, but she's like, Riley, one of my best friends. Yeah, like 20 years. He's doing, he's officiating the wedding so he's like, he's the sermon for the wedding. Which is cool. I had a call with him the other day. He was asking me all questions. He's a lovely writer. He's so nice. He's great. And Cillian's MC. He'd be great at that. I'm quite nervous for that. Yeah, I think everyone might potentially I think everyone talking about that. Like Julesy, didn't I? He was great. Yeah. Julesy's master service. But like Julesy's whatever, you're taking a massive risk.

39:07Yeah, but he was brilliant. Because people are going to get claimed. Do you know what I mean? He was brilliant. Do you know how I'm making everyone, he took it really seriously, making everyone sit down now, please. He kept getting on the microphone like no one asked him to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just on at every opportunity. I just want to make sure everyone's having a good time, everyone having a good time, everyone. We're all fine. Do I have to do a speech? No, no. Would you like to do a speech? What about my actual role then? Do you want to do a reading or a poem or something? Yeah, I'll do one.

39:35Do you want me to do one? Yeah, is there any spare? Yeah, just two going. We've got I'll do one There you go What do you mean There's two girlfriends There's three Two what Because we've got one We've got Dan Doing one So where's the four Where did you pull that from Well I just copied What Meketsteen did As if that's still a blueprint I was the servant For their wedding There's two going I literally I literally About three months ago Text Megal Do you remember that thing You sent me Five years ago For setting your wedding Five years ago She goes yeah You wouldn't still have that Would you She just sent it to me We just copied Do you want to do a speech I prefer to do a poem yeah get a nice poem do you want to do a poem I could just read the Nicki Minaj verse out I wish they're tired I could have this moment for my entire life for life and then Pete in the back for life for life for life okay I'm going to move on right wedding speech hi Abby and Pete my fiance has asked his best mate to do a speech at our wedding the problem is that this man is an absolute liability as we talked about the ola I've known him for years and he's lovely, but every time he drinks, he becomes a man with absolutely no internal filter.

40:43Erma Hendo, he apparently told a room full of women that my fiancé once slept on his bedroom floor because he'd been dumped. Fine, funny. Then at Christmas, he told my future mother-in-law about his fiancé's wild phase. Not ideal. I've now heard a rumour that he has written something about me for the wedding speech, which is apparently hilarious. I've asked my fiancé what he's planning to say and he says he doesn't know. I've said I don't want anything humiliating said about me in front of 120 people yeah but I just don't know why people care that much it's a laugh isn't it I agree I think you've got to let it go like if someone is going to start rinsing you you just take it and laugh it depends the only thing stuck in my head there is why is he at the hand I just I thought I read that wrong yeah is he at the hand what the hell's going on there yeah that's like a stent do you remember when people try to suggest stent you suggested that He's like, oh, fucking off chance.

41:37Have you suggested that one? But we'll all go on our separate end. Let's have a stent. I think stents are the best. Woke nonsense. No, stents are great. It's woke nonsense. Because you can do a few days with the boys, a few days with the girls, and you meet at the end. You could be in the same place. Or in different... Well, hopefully it catches on. I need to relax because that's... John's definitely doing a stent. Yeah. He's a stent type. Easier a stent type of guy. He thinks I need to relax because that's what weddings are for. I'm not asking for a PowerPoint presentation about my achievements.

42:08I just don't want my nan finding out about my sex life overpudding. Am I being a poor? Yeah. I think your nan has to hear that stuff at the wedding. It's all part of it. The nan has to be in tears. The nan has obviously had a shag. That's why she's a nan. Just because you're older doesn't mean you're not down for a good old dirty joke. I know you have to have respect. It's all in jest. These gilfs are game, was the show. Ladies and gentlemen, my husband's... Do you know what? I think we should wrap up on that note. These gilfs are game. It's unbelievable. I think that should be maybe potentially a little quote.

42:54Well, listen, I'd have to say it's a pleasure having you on. A real good luck for the wedding. Thank you very much. I can't wait. We can't wait to celebrate with you really far. I'm so unorganised. I'm petrified. I can't wait. It'll be fun. You know, people keep saying to me, God, I need to do this. And my mum's like, can you come and look at my clothes? I know. My mum's like, I don't know what I'm going to wear. And I'm like, I haven't even got an outfit. And you've got three dresses. What are you talking about? And you've got like ten dresses. I haven't got the day two dresser. That comes to date with time.

43:23This is kind of what, I've always gone back to my weekly wine. What's this day two dress thing? No, it's not El. I haven't got day one dress. Did you have a one-day wedding? No. Well, I got absolutely obliterated on day one, my day one. Day two was the wedding. Pete didn't go to bed until 6am on the wedding night. See, we've started our wedding at 5, because we know what our group are like. So 5pm, like, if you're turning up late to a 5pm wedding... We were 5. We were 5. We were 4. We were 4. 4pm. No, because you played golf first. That was why I was at 4. She wanted to play golf then. before your wedding.

44:00I didn't, I didn't. The night before was too heavy. It's not funny. You love me so much. You really do. You really do. You guys are so loved. It's crazy. You've got so many dresses. I literally haven't got one thing to add. I'm just, I'm very, I'm just getting panicky. Here we go. Save a horse, ride a cowboy. Stay tuned for the fallout from your wedding. Coming next week.

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Wedding Chaos! Elle & Scott Talk Dress Disasters, Cheating Scandals & Nashville Hen Drama!On today’s episode of The Therapy Crouch, Peter and Abbey are joined by special guests Elle and Scott as they enter the final chaotic countdown to their big day!


Scott and Elle reveal the madness behind planning the ultimate wedding, from last-minute videographer cancellations to an emergency bridesmaid dress disaster rescued at the eleventh hour by creative genius Mikey. We also dive into Elle’s wild Nashville hen do, complete with Scott’s face plastered across the bars and on random locals!


In the Agony Abs, the gang tackle explosive wedding dilemmas: what do you do when your partner insists on inviting his ex of six years because she’s "part of the family"?


And how do you survive a best man with zero internal filter who’s threatening to air your wildest secrets to your nan over dessert? Plus, Scott shares an insane story of an Irish bride who exposed her cheating groom on the big screen in front of all their guests!


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00:00 Introduction & Wedding Countdown

02:50 Who Planned What? Golf vs The Butcher

05:37 Becoming Family & Brotherly Bonds

09:22 Entertainment, First Dance & Banned Irish Songs

13:12 7 Days Out: Videographers & Table Plan Rows

21:15 The Bridesmaid Dress Disaster & Mikey Saves the Day

23:51 Weekly Whine: Training Your 23-Year-Old Replacement

25:13 The Ultimate Revenge: Cheating Groom Exposed at the Altar

26:48 Nashville Hen Do & Scott Masks in the Bin

29:41 Agony Abs: Is My Fiancé's Ex Crashing Our Wedding?

32:23 Dodgy Plus Ones & Walking Down The Aisle

36:58 Agony Abs: Best Man with No Filter Threatens The Speech


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