Ed Sheeran Lived On My Sofa! Liberty Reveals Wild Nights Out & An Awkward Leo DiCaprio Encounter!

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1:29Do tell.

1:32Abbey Clancy: Hello and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abby Clancy. Me, Peter Crouch. Me, Gaz. And we've got a very special guest today. Who is it? Oh, it's me. It's you. So this is Liberty. So, a Jeff. No, his name is Ralph. Oh, he should be called Jeff. He's more like a Jeff than Ralph. So, a lot of people write in and say, I want to see your friends. I want to meet your friends. I get DMs like, this is so Kaz. This is so Lib. and it just because I talk about you guys and we're not made up no we're not made up you're a real friend pretend friend so we thought let's get you on come on I'm a bit hot hair's looking fantastic I'm loving the colour yeah that's her own hair I know it's incredible I'm so jealous of her yeah it's phenomenal I'll have a feel she makes me like when we go away together just like tickle her head for like an hour or her arm goo we call it goo goo It's true.

2:30Give me some goo. So when did you two meet? Talk us through that. Right, so I was a make-up artist. And Abby used to be a model. Yeah. Before I understand all that. Yeah, yeah. And I did a make-up once and that was it. We were magic. We fell in love. Where was that? Do you remember? Do you think it was a hair thing? Was it that? We did it in Spring Studios, I think.

2:55Abbey Clancy: I can't remember. Yeah. Because I just feel like you've always been in my life. I know. I can't really remember. It sort of bled into every story, sort of bled into this. Generally because they end up the same, don't they? Drunk. Yes. I called my daughter after her. Yeah, I heard this. What an honour that is. No, that's actually the best honour ever. We were actually going to call Elle my sister Liberty. Yeah. And then I met Liberty, and short after I met Lib, I got pregnant and I just knew you know you just knew at that moment that was the name but you missed one because me and Pete when I was about to give birth to Jack me and Pete fell out I was the mediator she was the mediator do you remember fell out fell out she was sitting there in all her glory going ooh and Pete that was when Trump came past yeah no but I left to the hospital on my own so I left the house and said you are not coming So I was like, Pete's not coming.

3:57Abbey Clancy: She was feeling slightly unreasonable. Hysterical. Must have been a hormone. So I'm like, you're not allowed to be at this birth. You're not even coming. So then, Liv, go with me. His own child. So then, Banned. Banned. But then, best bit was, because she couldn't eat anything because she'd had epidural, hadn't she? So me and Peter went off and had a right good Nando's. Rather than eating it in Nando's and being nice, we just brought it back. Oh my God. So then I was like, Liv I need you to be my best and partner I'll allow Pete to be in the room and you nipped the loo or something and fucking missed it I know yeah I did missed it did you no she used to I'll give you some time that's it I'll give you some time because nothing was happening and I said oh I'll give you some time I got into a good place I thought I'd done some good you know well yeah I was present so I was and the drugs had kicked in so she was a bit more reasonable you know and off her head and um by drugs she means oh yeah but not legal ones epidural and then and then I said I'll give you a little bit of space yeah and by the time the thing had fallen out I know I know I know that was Jack but he was the quickest one he was quick was he quick?

5:10Abbey Clancy: the doctor said right you've got you've got a a contraction I want you to push so I pushed and he went you've got to you're going to have to do better than that so the next so I laughed and then he just come out you were joking? no It was like having a small poo. Sometimes it takes to eat a Nando's. Small poo. Which, I think, if I remember rightly, it was sort of God striking his back. Me and him got the shits from the Nando's. Did you? He did. Cut out the middleman, chuck it down the fog. It was horrible. And I haven't actually ever eaten Nando's since. I had Nando's last night. Did you? Yes.

5:47It's like franken chicken. What's that? like it's like like oh yeah

5:53Abbey Clancy: genetically modified not even a is it yeah liberty is so we've had the best friendship haven't we we have we have true love actually true love in genuine terms really it is when you just love someone yeah so much and she's mental I'm mental every one of my friends is clever the most clever people and mental you're clever I'm not as clever as you she's like a lawyer an accountant I'm not you are well can we get into this a bit yeah what did talk us through you yeah so well I'm not I just had to learn a bit of law because I had a horrible accountant who tried to sue me even though he was in the wrong and by British law you have to if you get a civil case you have to you have to sue back which I didn't know at the time when I did but I lived next door to a judge and he taught me law for six months and then I beat him but I beat his barrister in court it was 15 years experience and I flattened him oh my god well done I thought I got a bit Ali McBeal on it I love Ali McBeal I don't know what you're talking about I'm so silly I'm just a little girl and then just rinsed him fucking rinsed him yeah and you could see the poor lad going didn't know what was happening but no I was a makeup artist and then really in a bad move we bought a restaurant just before Covid brilliant which now Lib runs does everything Lib is the most incredible chef she's a sommelier I do love cooking what's the name of the restaurant it's called Bertie Blossoms Bertie Blossoms right I own it with this fella called Ed Sheeran yeah so Libs that needs yeah the problem is when Peter comes it's a really tiny little restaurant in Labrote Grove and the floor the ceiling and the mezzanine I can stand up and just Peter just gets on his hands and knees I should go a little bit literally on the hands and knees did you see him in the hot air balloon I don't know if you saw the photo oh my goodness you were on the knees why are you bringing that up again gas are you trying to have you heard this story no not for that it was on his knees basically when I was in Portugal with the kids and Pete was in America working yeah why do you excuse me you're my friend she's with me she's me so he was going up in a hot air balloon for this TV thing.

8:20Abbey Clancy: I would never get in a hot air balloon. Exactly. And I was like, Pete, please. They blow away. Yeah, but I was like, Pete, don't do it. You know, I was worried the whole day. Then I got a phone call from Gaz. From Gaz, from his personal mobile. It was on the group. It was on another group. Pete had an accident and he's dead. What? He's been saved. What? He's been saved. So I was in fucking Spain. I drove from Portugal to Spain for a nine-hour football tournament and collapsed. Because I read the message, I just went, ugh! He wasn't quite. No, is that slightly an Abigail exaggeration? No. Yeah.

8:55Abbey Clancy: No, it isn't. Okay, he didn't say he was dead. He said he's had an accident and sent me a picture of Peter. So therefore, yes. But I've, yeah, I assume because you knew I went up with him, that obviously, how can I send the photo? Well, I didn't know you went with him. Oh, I thought you did. But he got the wrath. He got the Scouse wrath. Did he? Yeah, to be fair, guys, I think that's fair to you. You know, on reflection, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was my idea. What's your idea? It was my idea, yeah. Oh, life. Life is funny. Oh, you're double that, mate. Why would that be funny? Like, I'm away from my husband.

9:23Abbey Clancy: No, I agree. It was Gaz's fault. The kids aren't with their dad. And then I'm thinking, shit, I hope he's left me in the will. Don't joke. No, I'm thinking, my kids aren't going to have a father. It was, honestly, I honestly collapsed. The collapsing's not elastic. That actually happens. What were you thinking? Why is the history of the process here, Pete? There's a picture of me and I'd done a picture of me on the floor. It was funny to all of us. You're right. Obviously not to... To the wife who loves you desperately and the four children that you would leave behind. It was just poorly timed.

9:52Is that it? Yep. How did you meet Ed? Oh, right. How did that all start when you... Oh, yeah. Obviously, your husband's studio manager. Yeah, yeah. We actually had no money because the set accountants that I talked about... Yeah.

10:08We got... Stu managed Just Jack at the time. And Just Jack rang. Oh, he's so nice. And he rang and said, look, there's this little kid pestering me, but he's quite good. Do you want to come up to Leeds to see him? And so we literally spent our last tenner on a train fare and a Burger King, which I... I can't imagine you eating that. She's a total food snob. A really bad food snob. But this was like a beef and hair burger. It had about, no, I pulled out hair. Oh, come on. It was grim. Never ate one of them again. Anyway, we got up to the gig and God bless Jack. There was only about eight people there.

10:53He didn't need a microphone. It was a bit sad. But Ed played and we were like, hells bells, this kid's insane. It's incredible. So we asked him, did he want management? And then two days later, he came to live with us. And he lived on my sofa. We kept moving houses to get shot of him. It's 20 years ago, still together. Unbelievable. He's living on the sofa. Yeah. But we like moved house. He moved next door. We moved into a flat. He moved above. Really? Yeah. It was very nice. He was glued to you guys. Pardon? He was kind of glued to you guys. Yeah, but it was like my son. and it's, you know, now I suppose he's like this big boy, big man, runs this like glow.

11:36It's like from seeing him when you had, it was in the days of Lynx Africa, if anybody can remember that. Do you remember? These all still wear it, can't they? We still do, yeah. Don't bother washing. Boys didn't wash, did they? They just sprayed themselves with Lynx. Lynx and jupe, jupe hum. Jupe, yeah, jupe hum. It smelled like cheap sweets. I think it was potentially worse than BO It had such an acrid smell because it covered the smell of boy smell

12:08Abbey Clancy: I hate boy smell Yeah, but I think I prefer boy smell but you sort of waft through the house with it and you'd be opening windows it'd take about a week for it to disperse getting the Febreze out like it was a shotgun That's unbelievable But lifestyle dead all those videos everything well still does but yeah I read this so like Lego House and all those music videos so you styled him yeah I think the best one we did we did this video called ALM which took me a long time to realise was A Little More and it was Rupert Grint and it was the Lego House video redone and then we Emil Nava is the video director so you'd be talking to him and he'd go let's get a knight's costume and you go okay why not cowboys and we did this we got we got all these 250 costumes and on the day of it was a two day shoot I said to him I got the knight's templar outfit for you and he went what I went the knight's templar outfit what do you mean why did you get that I went I can't ask for it I kid you not it weighed about eight stone all of them stuffed in the back of my car but it was brilliant it was brilliant and really exhausting but it was and Rupert's amazing we FaceTimed you yeah yeah he was like he wasn't expecting you I was like I'll just ring my friend and then I rang my friend and my friend was Peter Crouch what about me?

13:44oh fuck off

13:46Abbey Clancy: I'm your bestie you bitch well just with Liv like her stories are phenomenal and like everyone thinks oh whatever do you know what I mean because they're so out there and she's like oh yeah when I was at Leonardo and Bono and everyone and then Bono walks in and is like Liberty oh my god everyone everyone knows Liberty and everyone loves her and it's you're just literally my idol I'm coming on here again I'm telling you there you are I just think you're wonderful Leonardo DiCaprio didn't love me oh no that's the story do tell it's a story of three parts right years is it jack o 'connell he was in skins right absolutely lovely lad i did his advert for skins and it was him kaya and luke all the real big ones fast forward a few years later i'm in can at the film festival with my beautiful friend petra and we're at a party and leo leo dicaprio's there and this guy comes up to me and he's like Who are you?

14:48And I was like, oh, I'm here with Petra. And he starts doing this, security, security, like this. And I'm like, fuck. And he said, quote, I was too ugly to be in the presence of Leonardo DiCaprio. No. Which I thought was a touchwrench. Yeah. More than a touchwrench. Fucking crap. Anyway, Jack O 'Connell came and saved me. And it was just, you know, like you think, oh, it's amazing. Fast forward a couple of years later, I'm at a party with Ed at beautiful Stella McCartney's party for the Met Gala. And Leo DiCaprio's there and he's talking to Ed and he goes, hey, were you at the Met? I went, no, are too ugly to go.

15:34And he just goes, eh?

15:37Abbey Clancy: It's like, good for you. It was such a random comment. I used to fancy Leonardo until that comment. Yeah. I'm sorry, he didn't say it, but he had like his lackeys, you know, checking to see if the women quota were good enough for him. Well, we were talking about this the other day, yesterday. Yeah. And I was like, no, like you walk down the road, it's a fear. Everyone's like, and I literally get barged out the way and it's like you come to a certain age and just become invisible. No, I don't think so. I'll tell you something. I think there is that. And men don't do it because you always go like, oh, doesn't he look lovely now?

16:12Isn't he gorgeous? Yes. Peter Crouch, isn't he handsome? Yeah. Fine wine, aren't they? Yeah, fine wine. Let's see your gorgeous eyes. Yeah. But there is this sort of idea. Fucking young over. Yeah. Put them back down. Like two fag burns in the blanket. You're given the idea that you are invisible as a woman because somehow society has told you that rather than it being actually true because obviously it is not true. I can't imagine either of you being invisible No, loud. And like this idea that like, time is linear. Like when you're 30, you should have a house. When you're 34, you should have a kid.

16:55When you're 40, you should do this. And I think that was like, when you'll get to 40 and 50, that you somehow feel like your life's over. But it's not. It's absolutely not. And I feel like that's a, you know, you know who you are. And I don't think we look like we did. and like, you know, you're like the 1950s. My great granny looked about 900. And she was about 50 at the time. And you're like, how do you, she had the pinny on. Even when you see old like Angela Lansbury or something. She was only like 36. It's like mad. So I've got a bit of a passion for that at the minute about just being a bit more.

17:36Abbey Clancy: And we need some health tips because what you've done, Liv's lost like, what was the stone? I've lost a stone. So she's been doing Pilates forever. Yeah. Tell us. Yes, I was doing Pilates. Are you learning enough? I'm learning. Yeah. This is our normal night out. He just sits there listening to us. He just takes it all in. They usually talk both at the same time. Yeah. When you throw alcohol in there, they just both talk. Dreadful. She's a sommelier. Yeah. Have you done a course? No, I haven't done a course. What I've done is drunk a lot. Oh, yeah. I know. I have a really, really amazing friend called Billy Smith who was a sommelier at the Four Horsemen in New York.

18:19He's like a legendary sommelier. And I have hung out with that man long enough. And I used to just send him wine lists. And he lives in New York. And he'd come back. But he's, it's like not getting the most obvious. Like you'd go down the list and say, oh, yeah, I know that. I know that. We always go to the top one. Well, Pete does. The cheapest one. Usually second cheapest.

18:43Abbey Clancy: Always go second cheapest. Yeah, never go cheapest. Did you tell you, when we were in Sardinia once, Pete was, we were getting absolutely conned every... We were getting our pants pulled down. Yeah, we were getting our pants pulled down every day. But with the money? The price. Do they see you and then just go... No, it was just the lunch is very expensive. Sardinia's just expensive. Okay, isn't it? So Pete went, so Pete was always doing the second cheapest one, but it was still, you know, it was probably like a 10 pound bottle of wine for 150 quid, for example, whatever. Oh, it's a joke, isn't it?

19:10Abbey Clancy: So Pete went, I'm not having this I'm going the cheapest today and it came and it was like you know what you get in like a mini bar it was a half bottle a glass and a bottle and he was like was it like the Marks and Spencers one or it's actually a plastic glass and he was like oh she's not drinking today I had to pretend that Abby wasn't drinking this is just for me do you know I went to that restaurant Carbarn with Ed in New York it was me, Ed and his bodyguard Kev who's amazing love Kev oh we love Kev yeah we do like Kev and Ed have got this mega, I mean, mega bottle of wine. And they had like rung ahead and they'd opened it and it was beautiful.

19:47Have you ever been there? Yeah. It's like theatre, isn't it? They come, do you want it with the red sauce? Do you want it with the white sauce? And I'm like that. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. And we drank this wine and because I'd had a bit of wine before, I went, I'll get the next bottle. Oh God. Put it on my credit card. We got Pat by the Daily Mail going out and looked like a right couple of losers. We looked like we'd been at a jumble sale, right? We just looked shit. And then the next morning I woke up and I was all right. I thought that was a nice night. And then I had that awful fear.

20:25Awful. I think it was like Usain Bolt couldn't have beaten me out of the speed. I was like, oh, my God. I just spent four grand on a bottle of wine. Oh my God. Fuck. And I couldn't tell my husband because I thought he was going to go.

20:43Abbey Clancy: You'll be dead mate. I was mental. You've got me in trouble with the paps though loads of times. Oh dude, where's my car? Oh my God, I remember. What's this? I went for lunch with Liv and this old music lawyer who used... Frank Preslin who was Elton's manager. John Lennon and just incredible stories. And I was pregnant so I couldn't drink. I did. she did so I drove and then we got to the we were going home I said I'll drop you off and then we went out to the road and I had a Range Rover at the time and this whole road was Range Rovers black Range Rovers the whole road so I'm going none of them were hers and I was like I left my car she was like no you didn't this is your she had me in the street for an hour like bleep we stopped the police yeah I was like can you help us Thumbtack presents Uncertainty Strikes.

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22:11And in the end, I think the police just went, yeah, it's been taken, love.

22:16Abbey Clancy: It was in the pound. I got towed. I got towed. I got towed. Yeah. But I was like, so the paps took this whole series of photographs, I like that in the background. Me like that, believing every car pregnant. And I'd been towed away. Oh my God. But they had us like talking to the police. The whole storyline of events. Dude, where's my car? Dude, where's my car? Hysterical. That's actually not a bad headline. I could not get a wording because she was so pissed. I was like, let me handle this. I've got this. I was like, Liv. I've got it. That is not my car. It is. That is your car. Try it again. Keep it again.

22:51Abbey Clancy: But we were in Chelsea. There was nothing but black Range Rovers. Yeah. I was on loudspeaker as well. I had me on loudspeaker. I was going, I don't know where the car was. Absolute zero. I was just listening to you two arguing about where the car was. it's not this right oh it was honestly yeah and then it was obviously the police like yeah that's because it's not here at all that's so funny it's over there in the pound you were about to say your health tips sorry what was your health tips oh yeah this is what happens

23:22listen when you get to a certain age as a woman you turn on Instagram and all you get is Davina McCall talking about her dry fanny and it is so fucking depressing, right? And I'm just like, that is not who we are. Yours not joined. Honestly, it is. Is yours not joined? Oh, I'm not joined. Pretty peach.

23:46Abbey Clancy: And it's... God, mine is. Yeah? No, I'm joking. It's, you know, it's really good to have... It's the algorithm. Yeah, but it's also good to have information and knowledge about what happens to a woman as you get older. But if I was a young woman now, I'd be like terrified. Yeah. Because that's all you hear about this. Well, it's, you know, you fought a bit. You made a biscuit. Your brain's dead. And it's not true. Anyway, I started weight training, Gaz, basically what I did. I got rid of the three pound Pilates weights. I went upstairs, dusted off the husband's weights. Oh, yeah. He's using them to hold down his guitars.

24:27and I started lifting like 10 kilo, 15 kilo weights. That's quite weighty.

24:33Abbey Clancy: I nearly broke my toe on Pete's 5K in the garden last night. Really? Yeah, because he just left them in the middle of the grass. That's L, that, not me. Yeah, well, he doesn't lift five. Yeah, he's at least 25 there. Two and a half. Two and a half. 50s, bench press, 200. But now, that's what I've heard, the weight training. It's fantastic. I'm going to do that. Because it just like altered, right within a month, I looked like a different person. And you've been doing Pilates for years? Yeah, I've been doing Pilates like it's coming out of my ears. There's only so many times you can wear a Lululemon legging.

25:13This is all I've got. Is that all you've got? All my clothes are just lost. I know. Yeah. Sports bras and Lululemon leggings. You're a top chef, Liv, as well, right? Yeah, because it's a Lululemon. We've been to yours many occasions. How good she is. The food is just. I do love to cook. Where'd that come from? Like, if you have a bit of natural talent, and then, like, I love food. And I love, honestly, I'd think about recipes at night. And then a friend of mine, friend David, who's a chef as well, we'd go out for breakfast, design the menu for dinner, but then we'd have to invite the neighbours around because we had so much food.

25:53Yeah, I just love it. And then... She's insane. You pick up little things like watching a bit of, you know, how does, like, Ramsay do a steak or, you know.

26:04Abbey Clancy: I can't cook a steak without the whole room being full of smoke. Well, that's good. That means you're cooking it at the right temperature. Really? Just got to get a good extractor. Yeah. You've got to have the pan. The pan needs to be practically on fire. The steak needs to be at room temperature. And none of this flipping it around. You put it in the pan, butter and oil, salt and pepper, and leave it alone. Then turn it over, leave it alone. Then rest it. People whip them out of the pan. You've got to rest a steak. Give it a good 10 minutes. I'll show you in a minute when I cook one for you. Yeah, are you going to do this one?

26:43Yeah. Got a ribeye and a sirloin.

26:45Abbey Clancy: So we're going to do, because, you know, I was saying, I just would love to be more, obviously we've got all our own veg growing here. Oh, yeah, I'm going to go and pick some things out. Yeah, but just the education side. Like, I don't know when is the time to harvest the crops. When do you plant things? When do you dig them up? Blah, blah, blah. When you get a gardener. Yeah, no, we've got one. And he's teaching me, Matt. He's great, but it's... Just want to learn as well. Yeah. It's me, I want to know. And then what wine would you put with that? Or what meat would you put with this? You know, it's gorgeous things, isn't it?

27:15Good to know. Good to know. You know how the temperate, like, the weather changed so much. Like, tomatoes, grown tomatoes in this country now. Amazing. Amazing.

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28:32When I mentioned Chris Hemsworth. That's what happens. It's just a distinctual reaction. Yeah. We have done a bit of work with Chris Hemsworth. Hasn't he got dementia now? No, what he did, He was doing this like ultimate like fitness thing. And during that they tested him and his genetic profile came up with the marker. So it's not like he has, but he probably will. And I think, yeah. So that's why he did that. And he came on stage and drummed with us because drumming is like amazing. Builds like neuropathways and everything. But, you know, you've meet a lot of like famous people. Schlebs. Yeah, and you know when you see somebody on the telly or on a film.

29:20We did this filming with Chris and we went to Ed's recording studio in Suffolk. And he got out the car and it was like, it's fucking Thor. I was like that. Oh my God, that is a beautiful man. Chris and Ed just walked off into the distance to sort of talk about dementia. and I was like, you don't want to stand next to Thor, mate. Sit fucking down. Do it. Yeah, and I, at the dinner table, we all had dinner together. I bagsied the best spot. I was just sat opposite him.

30:07Amazing. You must have met some amazing people over the course of, I suppose, you know, what you do and what Ed's done and stuff. you had some good yeah do you know

30:17Abbey Clancy: people who really stand out Stormzy exhibit A oh Abby Clancy to be fair you are my favourite person in the entire world I know why'd you do this oh you know no but you are and together you're amazing and I feel like you're my best friend and I love you I know and it's like a real like we're really in love aren't we we really are in love we're not lesbians not lesbians but we are really women can be in love without being lesbians kindred spirits can I ask what Chris Hemsworth smelled like do he smell like jupe and links Africa no he just smelled of man okay that's what I think that's what I say to Ab send him a man you smell nice you smell of comfort thanks babe my washing you smell nice do you mean aerial aerial sorry the big one the big pod yeah I use them you've only brought some home yeah I've got them for you sorry about all my washing on the floor by the way when you come in well you can get your aerial out wash it all can't you I can't only need a quick short wash at 30 degrees yeah but I can't do I can't do a short wash on this freaking washing machine why not it's an hour long no it's I'll show you it it doesn't work it goes off like the weight it's so hard we'll just put less in yeah you are good you know what you're brilliant at everything you're even more I would say mental with regards to animals yes than Abbey Yes.

31:44I think you're possibly the only one. How many dogs have you got now? I've got eight. Eight dogs? That's also why I've got vet wrap around my fingers. Oh, yeah? What's happened there? Yeah, I can't. I didn't have so many dogs in my house. Is that a real thing? Vet wrap? Vet wrap. Look, it's got paws on it. It's got paws on it. That's what they put around you when you've been to the vet. Not humans. I've got seven rescue dogs. And for some unbeknown reason, I got a Belgian Malinois called Zeus. Okay. who really loves Peter. This is the one, right, where Liv would say to me, he's totally fine, he's totally fine, just don't look him in the eye.

32:19Oh, no. Or run. Or he'll eat you. So I'm like, he's there, and the minute I go like that, he goes... Really? Yeah, he's a train protection dog. But I've just got, I think from now on, I'm only going to get really small dogs.

32:37Abbey Clancy: Do you know what? I'm with you there, sister. She's got seven of them, and they've got a better wardrobe than me. Every day they wear clothes. They're dressed up. So for their birthday, she makes them a cake. They blow the candles off. They have hats on. They've all got outfits. Bella, we've got one dog, Bella, that I've made a rod for my own back. We had lived in a house that had this lovely little staircase down to the kitchen. So she used to sit and I used to clap her down. I had to applaud her to come down the stairs. So now she doesn't go anywhere unless you applaud her. Really? It's like having Fett Davis' dog, right?

33:16It's so hideous. And now she just goes and it drives you wild.

33:21Abbey Clancy: And then you have to clap her down. Clap her down. Yeah, clap her down. Poor Arthur is like Sophia. Like Arthur's like, was the first dog. And he's like, Mum, why have you done this to me? That's what Sophia says. Mum, why did you have all these kids? Our life was so good without them. And the protection dog that's meant to be like patrolling the house and making sure I'm safe has now decided to get in bed with me. Like, so get his head on like a human, head on the pillar. That's unbelievable. Could you imagine? Hey, don't you have more? No. She got this dog from Romania. It was supposed to be three months old.

33:57Oh, Teddy. And it came, it was like 14. I took him to our vet, Scott. Scott's Australian. He went, how old do you think this dog is, Liberty? And I was like, well, I was told three months. He went, oh my God, look at it, he's about 15. We found that so funny. He's blind. You're joking. Blind. Oh, God, love him. He's gorgeous. Gorgeous. He's absolutely gorgeous. If you could find a man that loved you like Ted loves me, looks at you, but then he's blind, so he might just be looking at his face. And I've mistook this whole situation for love. He's like, where is she? Can't see her. It's phenomenal.

34:41Yeah, but I'm not getting any more ghosts. I've had enough. You've done eights enough. I'm done. I'm done, yeah. That is a lot of dogs. I just don't believe you. No, no. You just got a new cat, didn't you? Cats are different. They do their own thing. Dogs are so needy. And never, never get a bell. Malloy and Malloy are working dogs. They're meant to be in the army. They jump out of planes. Jesus.

35:03Abbey Clancy: They do? Do they? Yeah, they work with a dog on John Wick. They got walls. Two runs up 12 foot up a wall. Up. Like, without help, he will just run up at all. If there's a fire and someone's stuck in, they'll send the dogs in, they'll rescue people. Yeah, they're in... You're joking. No, they are phenomenal. That's what the Mexican, like, search and rescue used to when, I mean, the Venezuelan earthquakes, they send the Mallies in and they will work till they drop. Yeah, they're phenomenal. Which means, if you have them in your home, do you know you're at the back of my car? My car is an Aston Martin.

35:34You've got an Aston Martin. Yeah. He at the back, but... James Bond. Yes, he really changed Bond. Yeah, that was cheap. Yeah. When you say you ate the back of the car. Yeah, the back of the car. Not the metal. Like the actual car. The actual exterior of the chassis. But I had a cover on it. I pulled the cover off. I got in the car. I drove to Sainsbury's because I'm glamorous. And this little boy went, broken. And I went, what are you talking about? Went, broken. And I got out of the car. And on the passenger side of the car, oh, the car was missing. No way. Oh my God. Because I pulled the cover off, not look, got in the driver's side, drove off, drove down to Sainsbury's and it was like, like, like, like the, like the, all of the, the fender had gone.

36:22Why is he? Because he's, because he's a Belgian Malinois.

36:27Abbey Clancy: It's like, have you seen that meme with that Scouse lad? It's so funny. What are you doing in there? It's a video and someone put on, on the internet and the dog had eaten the front door and the whole, and he's like he's walked down the road and he's so scouse he's going oh lad oh lad wait to see what this dog's done and the dog pokes his head down the door and he goes get your fucking head in now

36:55when we do training with the dog we have like this abandoned hotel and I send the dog in and they hide people in the hotel and this hotel's like 60 ,000 square feet and he just why do you do that for fun? yeah Yeah, just, you know, something to do on a Monday. And he just kicked this door down. But it was like a solid oak door, just kicked it down, like it was balsa wood. They are impressive. Do you want to help us? Yes, yes. Come on, we said we were going to do that. Yeah, we've got some agony abs, right? Just the one, just the one. Agony Libs. I think you'll be good at this then. Go on then.

37:32Hey, Pedro, Abs and Liberty. I have a semi-serious-ish agony ab. I've always been quite insecure I recently have discovered my husband has a type and it's not me for clarity I'm 5 '4 brunette slightly heavier set we were chatting the other day about when he was younger and he said he used to have a calendar of Amy Childs from the only way he's Essex on his workplace desk Amy Childs

37:54Abbey Clancy: I'm not there though I've also noticed if we ever talk about a hall pass and what not he'd always go for the likes of Nicole Kidman Jessica Chastain Florence Welch tall skinny and redheads Emma Stone Jerry Halliwell you can see a trend here he likes the gingers he likes the gingers I tell her to get the dye out basically every single girl he suggested fancying it's a very particular look that I do not have and never have had we've been happily married for nine years he clearly fancies me that's never been in doubt but I can't stop wondering if he spent a decade quietly settling and now I feel self-conscious do I raise it or do I dye my hair see if I get a reaction what do you think well I would say what's her type and I start mentioning them and see how insecure he gets.

38:38Abbey Clancy: I think it's a dangerous game. That whole passage is like we... We can't play that game. No, because it'd end up with this mic. Yeah. No, I'm joking. Are you okay? Are you all right? Are you having a die there? That's it, you chug. That's it. Just pleasing my water. It's very difficult. Yeah, replicate Nicole Kidman really, isn't it? She's like six foot. Weighs about four kilos. We went on holiday, a couple of parents from the school, hysterical, and they were talking about this whole pass. And her husband's sitting there, skinny, bald, white. And she was like, so who's your whole pass? She was like, I don't know, Stormzy, Idris.

39:28Abbey Clancy: It's not my whole pass. Anthony Joshua. And he was John. And the guy was like, I am the complete opposite to these guys. But is that the whole point of a hall pass? Of course it is. Well, you don't want the same. So different. It's like, you don't want the same. You don't want that. No, I love you. But if you're a hall pass, it wouldn't be that. Otherwise, that's your husband, not a hall pass. Hall pass should be somebody who's a bit of fantasy. Yeah. I definitely think that Anthony Joshua and Idris would be on mine. Anthony Joshua, my goodness. I mean, why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? I can't play it's giving me anxiety even thinking about what you're thinking of and you're thinking about who's my you genuinely would be my whole past as well I mean that that's the truth it really is well consider your whole past you know me and Lucinda were talking about we're talking about getting a lie detector test in our houses because we keep getting accused of things and that isn't true right you strap each other up to a lie detector test that's why we're not on those shit No, not in our relationship.

40:35Abbey Clancy: I'm talking about in our lives because we're telling the truth. So we needed to prove it. What's Robert Evans say? There's your version, my version, and then there's the truth. Wise. Nicely said. All right, one more. Okay. Do you want to read it? Okay. Hey all, I need real advice. My mum has moved in with us temporarily after her divorce, which I was glad to offer. but she started very subtly competing with me for my own husband's approval. Hang on, this is vaguely familiar. Cooking is... Start that again. I missed that. Can you get back in the room? Sorry, I was wrong with you. Were you off? I'm zoned out.

41:19Abbey Clancy: Hey all, I need real advice. I'd zone out now if I was you. My mum has moved in with us temporarily after her divorce, which I was glad to offer, but she started very subtly competing with me for my own husband's approval. She's cooking his favourite meals, taking his side in every disagreement, laughing a bit too hard at his jokes. My husband thinks it's lovely that we all get on, and I feel like I'm being slowly replaced in my own home by my own mother. And I sound insane even typing it. Am I imagining it, or is this real? And how on earth do I raise it and none from Newcastle? Newcastle? Newcastle.

41:55Abbey Clancy: Newcastle. Newcastle. It's a tough one, but I have this at my mum. I love it a bit but she will if I ever know she'll go to Pete and go Pete have you heard this and Pete's like I'm not getting involved and I'm like no Pete you tell the truth there's nothing worse than two women you can't win you can't win I mean that is a rock and a hard place isn't it I just can't please ladies hang on can you sort this discussion out yourself Bambi yeah what would you do Pete there if that was you what would you do to pacify this situation and make your wife feel better well I think you'd tell me in no uncertain terms what was happening no just stop playing the battered husband thank you

42:44no I think you'd tell me straight wouldn't you that's what I'm saying oh yeah you'd say what's the deal with my mum I'd be like she's got to go I would say in this circumstance the mother should the bags would be packed and left by the front door She even needs to, like, you know, rein it in or do one. Yeah. Reign me.

43:04Abbey Clancy: Oh, here we go. Karaoke. We need to learn our song for Nashville. What song? Any. Oh, have you seen the WhatsApp group? It's like war and fucking peace. Tarnage in there. Oh, my God. There are mood boards. There are mood boards. Yeah, because we're like the oldest going. I've had to mute it because it's every three and a half seconds. We've started our own. The discussion of outfits is phenomenal. outfits Alfie's the worst yeah I was like oh my god I'm trying to work nin's on again oh here's Rach what my boots are you wearing well I need to find mine well I've broken my foot as well as my finger so I've I can't my foot's now a different size to the other foot and I can't get anything that's why I have to wear trainers all the time it's trainer trainer I'll have to get cowboy boot trainers shall we do some cooking?

44:00yes please can we do that? yeah let's do it and some sommelier are you going to take them on a bit of a course? I'm going to do a really nice reasonably priced wine there's some secret wines in there that come from some big producers which do it under a slightly different same grape different bottle yeah thanks for the background noise

44:20Abbey Clancy: guys thank you so much for watching but make sure you tune in this Thursday to watch part two We'll be in the wine cellar testing out some amazing, delicious wines at affordable prices. Bye.

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