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1:30Abbey Clancy: At what point in dating should someone actually delete the apps? Met my partner on the apps. What's his name? That's grown up, grow up. We settled? We settled? What? Oh yeah, it's just alright for you to say it. Not for me. Guys, if you love us as much as we love you, you should subscribe. That's all I'm going to say. Hello and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abby Clancy and my cheeky little monkey Peter. You've exposed me eating a banana. You're on your swim journey though, aren't you? Which increases your appetite. Don't be putting that peel on my camera. Put it on the table there, look.

2:10Sorry. No rost today.

2:13Abbey Clancy: No rost today. Still ill. Still ill. So talk us through this. I know you've been swimming this morning. Yeah. Well, I just swim squad. I'm into it. Is this like a code for a fair? No, I'm allowed to go for a swim. It's a real good exercise. I went for my back. I've had a few issues with my back and things like that. It's kind of no impact fitness. On the joints. Yeah. I think when you get to a certain age, it becomes, you know, it's only old people in the pool, isn't it? And I class myself in that kind of... Or children. A young part of that bracket. Okay. Yeah, so I think it's really good. It's good for me.

2:54Every day it kind of...

2:55Abbey Clancy: Are you going like fast? What are we talking? Breaststroke, butterfly? No, I mix it up. I do them all. Butterfly? Yeah. The odd butterfly, yeah. Yeah, obviously not much of it, but yeah, I do. Backstroke, girl. Backstroke? Yeah, backstroke, yeah. Backstroke's good because it feels like I'm really opening my back out. Opening your chest up. Yeah, opening my chest up. Get rid of that hump. Rufus, isn't she? It's Gaz, by the way. Shall I say hello? Yeah, sorry. Hi, guys. You all right? I'm in the hot seat today while we're Rossless. So we've nicked you from the Peter Crouch pod? You have, yeah. I don't have the sexy Scouse accent like he does, but I'll try my best.

3:35I'll do my best.

3:36Abbey Clancy: This is the better pod out the two, I think. It's banging. My missus is super fan, so this is going to be surreal. She listens all the time, in the shower, when she's doing her make-up. It's going to be an interesting episode to go out, yeah. It's funny what people say to me now about this pod. We have a picture. That's me. We prefer her, but we'll have you. It's quite male heavy though, the therapy crouch. I don't know if just because girlfriends and wives are forcing their partners to listen to it. Yeah, it's interesting. I was at a do last night and everyone was like, started off obviously on the Peter Crouch pod and have moved to therapy.

4:12They love the therapy pod. Yeah, a lot of lads and their partners. I think it's fun for the whole family. Yeah? Yeah, maybe not the whole family but for partners.

4:20Abbey Clancy: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, agreed. So what have we been up to this week? What have you been up to? Well, I went to watch Fulham. Oh, yeah, we've done a bit of football, haven't we? We've done a bit. Their ground is phenomenal. It's unbelievable, isn't it? And you can get so close to the players. Yeah, I saw you had an oyster thing. Oh, my God, I love oysters. She is like a prawn sandwich fan. Really? No definition of a prawn sandwich fan. You know, like there's football fans and then there's like people that go for the meal and a bit of football. Yeah, I said... Do one of those. I said, can I just stay in?

4:55Abbey Clancy: Because they hosted us, Fulham. I took all the kids and friends of ours and their kids. And they've got, like, this whole new section. It's called the Riverside. And it's like... The new stand, the Riverside stand. What do they call it? The Riverside stand. Is it the dugout stand? Is that what they call it? It's the hospitality section. So we had our own private box. We were fed. We had pancakes, bacon, full English, oysters, sausage rolls. One to a bottle of wine. French toast. The classic. You know, I had a little, we were hanging as well. It was the least thing I wanted to do because we went to, we went the night before, we went with our friends.

5:33Abbey Clancy: Our friends have moved back from Dubai. So we went to this cabaret night. Oh yeah. So that was amazing. But oh my God, it was like I had to get up and leave at 8am to go to Fulham. And I just thought I wanted to die. my two friends the girls they bailed because they just couldn't get out of bed so i ended up with the two husbands and about 10 kids but i absolutely loved it i don't know if i'm gonna kill me for saying it full and fun yeah i get it i do get it though like it's nice it's nice place for you to go yeah i think you know if you went it was so calm it was almost like rugby-esque even walking through the crowd it was very pleasant you know it wasn't intimidating or anything or maybe i just was not there because I was like...

6:14You've been in some intimidating ones, haven't you? Well, I got gassed in Paris. I got tear gassed. What?

6:19Abbey Clancy: Yeah. Tear gassed? Tear gassed. How did that come about? It was in Paris and the fans there... It kicked off in the Champions League final, I remember, and the police were going mental with, you know... They abused our Liverpool fans. It was awful, actually. It was disgusting. We had all the kids and family and we got tear gassed, so, you know, that wasn't a great experience, so that was probably the last... No, the last game I went to was your... Liverpool Legends. Liverpool Legends. And I always love going to Anfield. It's, like, fabulous. Going back there soon. Just been announced. Ah! Yeah.

6:53Christian Dortmund. Congratulations. That's exciting, isn't it?

6:56Abbey Clancy: So that's why you're training, so you can take your top off at the end and have your six back out? Is that what you're doing? No, I'm just training for my own personal satisfaction. You can't walk today after what you did yesterday. Yeah, I went up to train with Sunderland. Which was great. Me and Kevin Phillips. Oh, wow. Super Kev. Yeah. Just for TNT. It was great. But I can't walk, do they? Really? And I can't. I couldn't walk half the food. What sort of drills did they put you through? What were you doing? We just did a few bits and pieces. Like, we were in the gym for a bit. And then we went outside.

7:28Did some ice baths after. We did some finishing.

7:31Abbey Clancy: You didn't get choked by the bench press again, did you? No, no. I declined the bench press. We did some pull-ups. And then we did some planks. Yeah. Jumps. Fucking hell. You know, I've got to do a four-minute plank for this fitness test I'm doing. That's pretty tough, you know. And a four-minute wall squat. What's a wall squat? Where you lean against a wall and squat. Okay, right. It does what it says on the tin. It does what it says on the tin, exactly. Four-minute plank. Four-minute plank. Yeah, it's not ideal, you know. I think I did three minutes and I was shaking by the end. It's not ideal.

8:11Abbey Clancy: I think I'm probably fitter than you. What? Joking. Stamina-wise? Absolutely not. Really? Yeah. Do you remember we went on a run once and you lasted to the end of the drive and then about 30 seconds. I had an asthma attack. You had an asthma attack. I got asthma. Do you remember that? Yeah. Do you remember? No, the worst one was when I ran out the door. I said, I'm going to go back now. I said, we've literally just left. No, the worst one, when I jumped out the door, fell over the door stop and twisted my ankle. I'd have to just go straight back in the house. You did that on purpose. Go back to the Fulham thing.

8:49I was proud. You put up a video of the oysters. I was proud of the kids. They all wanted one.

8:54Abbey Clancy: Our kids have got quite a sophisticated palate. I can't believe that. I know it sounds twatty. Very twatty. They like caviar. They like clams. They like prawns. Yeah. Because I just make them try everything. Were you that adventurous as a kid? No, I grew up on chicken nuggets. Like Bernard Matthews, turkey. Bernard Matthews. I used to love them at school. My mum was pretty good, like healthy-wise at home, but the school was like school dinners, they were turkey. I had sausage, beans and chips for about 10 years every day. Really? And then that cake with the icing on. But, you know, I grew up in the 80s.

9:35Abbey Clancy: It was like frozen food territory, wasn't it? You know, horse meat lasagna. and stuff like that. Was it Finder's lasagna? Yeah, that was it. That's what I grew up on. I know what you mean, like alphabet spaghetti. Alphabet spaghetti, smileys. Smiley's, yeah. I know what you mean. So I don't give my kids any of that. Yeah. Because look what happened to me. Good state of earth. Have you got any wines for me? My weekly wine for you is... So we've got a diary. Claire sorts our diary out. We've got kids' schedules. So every day we get these daily reminders, which we've talked about on the pod. And I am training for something at the moment.

10:18Abbey Clancy: And I feel like anything I do just gets brushed under the carpet because, you know, and then Pete's excuses to me, we'll look at the diary about paddling. So Pete's trying to do these 7 a.m. paddles, leaving in the middle of the night. Right. And I'm like, I had to be... I also needed to leave at seven for this horse training thing that I'm doing, which is a bit secret at the moment, because I don't know if I've got the guts to do it. Yeah, because you're like a pussy when you cut out of it. Yeah, exactly that. Because I am a pussy. I am a complete pussy. You're not. You're strong-willed. I'm going to.

10:55Abbey Clancy: I'm strong-willed. You're a fighter. It's like, my mind's telling me no. but my body it's one of those scenarios but i'm getting hypnotized oh my god i messaged him and i was like tim can you get hypnotized for speed and he was like what speed are we talking about like no as in speed in a fast scenario

11:24Abbey Clancy: exactly and he was like yeah absolutely so i'm going to see him because i'm training for something which is crucifying me because at the moment I can't do it and I really, really want to prove to myself that I can I've got the ability but the fear is holding me back but anyway, Pete's fucking up my training because he goes to paddle instead and then I'm like, where's Peter? I've got four kids to take to school in four different places it's a two man job and he's playing paddle with Thomas Tuchel and stuff, my guy No, I didn't... I do understand that frustration because... It's just a bit one-sided.

12:06Abbey Clancy: No, it's not one-sided. I'm always here for you. It's not one-sided. It's just that, you know, like these things do go in a diary. And if I said to you, you know, you'd say, it's on the diary. No, but they can't. You secretly put things in the diary. I don't secretly do it. There's a million things in the diary each day you secretly put in. What? There's a rule in the house. You're not allowed to put things in the diary. I don't put it in. No, you have to go... There is another group called Diary Info. I don't know if you're on that now, guys. So anything that goes in the diary has to go in there and then Claire will put it in the diary and if it clashes with anything, she will tell us.

12:44Abbey Clancy: Because even today, for example, you're like, and tomorrow I'm doing this and I've got to pick four kids up from school in different schools and I've cancelled my scan like a million times now. Yeah, but I think it's just a bit of miscommunication. That's all I think. There needs to be more communication. So I'm happy to just get, like, obviously, but that paddle's not the most important thing. It's something I like doing. Tell yourself that. No, but it's not. If I think that, you know, if I think that there's other things that I have to do, my duty, my obligation, it's totally fine. So tomorrow when I've got to go training, you're going to tell them to talk about that?

13:20I'm going to tell them tomorrow.

13:24Pass work. You know, you come out all smiley

13:27Abbey Clancy: and you're an absolute nightmare to live with, you know. Me, me, me. That's not me, me, me. I'm actually doing stuff down there for people. I can't help it if my job's fun. What kind of stuff are you doing down there? What kind of bits? Doing this. I've got something to do. But it's a fun job. And now you say, can I come? And you said no. No, really? It's just the boys, but I've been invited, so I'm coming. But I do, what I was trying to say is I do understand your frustration in that regard, and I'll try and be better. You know, it's not trying to be better. I think we both should be trying to be better.

14:09We need to just align ourselves a bit more, because if I've got nothing in, in a month in advance...

14:14Abbey Clancy: But what if I said to you, like, I've got to go to my work so you can't go to yours? Do you know what I mean? I'm not going to work. Now, I think this is... The training session is work, Pete. I know, but you've only just started doing that. That's a new thing. The things I've booked in have been there for a long time, weeks. And then you'll put something in that's new. I don't put anything in because I follow the rules. Okay. Okay, I'll try and follow the rules. Okay, audience whines before I string his neck. Diaries are like the worst thing, isn't it, for us? The most arguments are over diaries.

14:58Yeah. I hate diaries. I remember when I used to go through life without them. It was so much better. The other thing is WhatsApp as well, I think, is a real... That's my wine today. It's like WhatsApp. You know, like, I turn it off notifications because otherwise it's just ding, ding, ding, ding all day. So sometimes I go into it. Then say you've got like 10 or 20 things you've got to reply to. It's like a to-do list. that's a ball like that remember when we didn't have it? how much easier was it? how do you delineate between who's you must have 100 unreads how do you sort it out? I've got 20 ,000 unread I don't know whether to go from the bottom because that's the first one that's come in or go from the top down it's easier but it's couldn't live like that it would stress me out it's not for me I'm sure these have got proper problems Hi Abby and Pete I have a wine I just know Abby will have my back on this one because I feel like I'm going insane My darling cat, Aliyah has recently been going to my neighbour's home which I've never thought anything of because I know what cats are like but recently she's been missing not coming home like she usually does and her bowl always seems untouched she's spending less and less time with me and I keep seeing her in windows of my neighbour's home which is pissing me off My neighbour does seem kind of lonely, but that's my support cat.

16:26I have politely asked her to stop letting the cat in feeding her, but she has not respected my ask. She doesn't believe that a liar will start living there, but cats are crazy creatures and that can happen. She's literally stealing my baby. What would you do in this situation? Because I really want to go and bust her tool down and take my cat back every time I know she's there. I'm just getting sick of it. Like, get your own cat, you weirdo. Any advice would be helpful.

16:53Abbey Clancy: See, Maggie was guilty of this. Our cat Maggie, she used to go, we've got a road WhatsApp group. Oh, yeah. Which Pete and I are always in trouble. We get pissed and then prank them on the WhatsApp group and then the next day. That is amazing. But we get so much entertainment. Remember when we told them they were all dead to us? What? Because Sophia needed a tennis court to train. And we couldn't get on the one where she normally goes. And a few of our neighbours have got them. We were like, can Sophia come and play on your tennis court? And then there was like tumbleweed. So we were like, you're all dead to us.

17:34That's amazing.

17:35Abbey Clancy: And then we had them messaging us privately. What time are you thinking she could come and use ours, but not every day? And I'm like, we just needed a court. She had this big tournament, so she needed it for 20 minutes to just hit with her dad. Like, if I had a tennis court, I'd be like, Guys, fill your boots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just go on it. Yeah. But anyway, so we always get into trouble. But our neighbour, she texted me the other day and she was like, oh, how's Maggie? I haven't seen her for a while because she normally can't get pictures and she's just like lying on their bed and stuff like that.

18:05Abbey Clancy: And it is a funny thing, but cats do that, don't they? They do, they do. Like dogs do. Also Maggie as well, when we lived in London, she'd just go down like, found her in Camden once. Oh yeah? She was like freaking going, like partying or something. Yeah. When we lived in Hampstead, wasn't it? Yeah. Mad. Yeah. That's miles away. Long way, isn't it? Well, we have to get the pet detective for that. The pet detective founder. But they just go like mad walks. When I walk out sometimes with dogs, the cat follows us all the way. Oh, really? Yeah, behind. Okay. Do you remember in lockdown when we used to go on family walks and the cat used to come with us the whole way and walk all around the Gold Coast and then walk back?

18:40Abbey Clancy: That's unbelievable. I know, lovely. So you said the cat ends up in Camden? Yeah. How does that happen? We lived in, not from here, from when we lived in Hampstead. Right, right, right. Down the hill. That's hilarious. Yeah, we had to get a guy who's called the pet detective and he found her. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I was in Zara in London and I got this call. I've got your cat. Like a cat sleuth. So I was just like, oh, my God. And I went and then Pete was like, what are you doing? It could be a murderer trying to, like, kidnap you. You want evidence, then? I think you should go on your own to meet some, you know, the cat.

19:09Yeah. Watch what that is, by the way, a pet detective.

19:12Abbey Clancy: Yeah, yeah. That's unbelievable. Expatura. Yeah, exactly. I think this is a tough one. I think this is a tough one. Because you can't really stop cats and roaming. No, I think you could say that's my cat. I do think you've got to be strong on this. I think, stop feeding my cat. I don't want my cat in your house. As if you'd say that? I would. I wouldn't be bothered if my cat was in our house. You don't want our cat in your house? If it's not in here, I'd be quite pleased. Oh, there's no piss on the floor today. Maggie must be out again. Oh, she's shat on my bed.

19:50I'll tell you what, she'd be back here very soon If she was doing that Someone else's house Yeah, I think you'd have to go I wouldn't be happy with that If I had a huge desire to have my cat in my house

20:05Abbey Clancy: They just love cuddles though, don't they? She's probably getting a little bit more attention there Because it's like a new thing But yeah, just say it Listen, I want my cat back Or else Yeah, if you've got a problem with it I think you're going to have it out You're well within your rights. Yeah, I think so. Are you guys cat people there? Are you dog and cat people? Are you both? I'm any animal person apart from copybarras. Yeah. I hate them. What beef have you got with a copybarras? I just think they're revolting. Why copybarras? I think they're... Because I hate guinea pigs as well. It's like a massive guinea pig.

20:35Abbey Clancy: I just hate them. They make me sick, in fact. I can't believe that. And I am like a huge animal lover, but I just can't deal with them. There's no animal I dislike. You said you'd punch a kangaroo in the face. No, that was... You're right. No, that was not. I did not say that. I didn't say that. No, you said if you had to punch an animal, you'd pick a kangaroo. No, it wasn't a kangaroo, was it? Was it a kangaroo? I love kangaroos. I think it was a kangaroo. No, because they'd probably beat me up, kangaroo. They stand there like that, don't they? They box. They do box, literally, yeah. The OG boxers.

21:10Abbey Clancy: I might just have a little baby sticking out of your pouch. Little going. Gorgeous. No, there's no... I've got no real beef with animals. I think like a ferret or something like that or not. Lib one's a ferret, doesn't she badly? I don't think I like a ferret. I was, I don't know where you were, probably swimming again. I was in bed looking at these little, what are they called? Something little fox things. And they're like white with big ears. And a baby one's called a kitten. We've never seen anything like them. and I was trying to get one. You do get them. It's an exotic pet, so it's not really the right thing to do.

21:54I would like one. Tiger King. The very king.

22:00Cheryl Baskin, whatever her name is. Carol Baskin. Carol Baskin. Are you still watching lurcher videos? Is that the singing lurchers or something?

22:07Abbey Clancy: No, no, but I have been watching these, like dogs who pick the pets, the rescue pets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you seen that video, Pete? No. So they go to like a dog rehoming centre. Oh, you did. You showed me that. Yeah, I did see it, yeah. And all like prospective parents just sit on a chair and they let a dog run in and they pick you. The dog picks you. Oh, my God. I did see one, though. I mean, it is lovely because it's funny how they walk and then they just stop and then they put the paw on one person and look at him and you're like, oh, my God, he's picked me. He's been selected. You do have an amazing bond, I reckon, then, don't you?

22:44You're like, genuinely, he's picked me. Yeah. But there was one on that video, it was a massive fucking Doberman, ran in like 100 miles an hour, jumped on this man's head and tried to bite him and then forced him to the floor and stood over the top of him, like dominating him. Oh, God. I was like, whoa. It's a dumb dog, yeah. Can I say no to this one, please? Do you know what I mean? He picked him.

23:11Abbey Clancy: Dobermans are gorgeous. Yeah, we come in and dominated him on the floor. What about your, you've got a new Doberman best mate? Yeah. In the stables? Yeah, I love that dog. Black. I never thought I'd like a Doberman, but I'm sure there's, you know, people listening to this that have Doberman and stuff, but I just always assumed that they'd be very aggressive, but, oh my God. I think they're highly intelligent, and I think, unfortunately, people get those dogs and rile them up, and, you know, if they're trained correctly, they're supposed to be incredible pets. What a lovely dog. When I first arrived, I was like, whoa.

23:44Abbey Clancy: I quite fancy one of those little mini greyhounds. Like a little whippet? Yeah. They're just lovely. They weigh like half a pound. They're just so skinny, but they rip the skin. Now when they run through the forest, they tear the skin on all the branches. They've got thin skin. Oh, God. These little dogs are... That's why they all have little coats on. Yeah, right. Is that what it is? Yeah, I took Lib to school today, and she made me take the dog with her. The dog goes every day in the car. I know, but it doesn't work. But this day I gave in. And obviously on the way home, I had to run into a shop, but it won't stay in the car.

24:22And so I'm carrying this little dog. And then I went to the car wash, and it absolutely shits itself in the car wash. It jumped like 10 foot in the end, sat on my lap, and hid under my jumper.

24:34Abbey Clancy: Little Bambi. And just shook. It was quite cute, actually. I loved it. I felt sorry for it. Anyway. Anyway. Okay. So what are you saying on the cat thing? Just go. Get around there. Get around there. Have a word. I could talk about pets all day. We should do a pet podcast. Funny pet stories. You can do that. You and Pete Wicks. Pete Wicks. How the fucking hell he got that job? I just... I am fuming. What's he doing now? He does the bloody Battersea Dogs. Oh, is he doing that? I thought it was Alison Hammond. I thought he did that. No, it should have been... Well, why is she doing it as well? She even got a dog?

25:12Abbey Clancy: Got four dogs? I've never even known that she had a dog. You wouldn't go Alison Hammond, animal lover, would you? I love Alison, but bloody hell. Everyone knows I'm an animal lover. Paul O 'Grady was the previous one. Scouser. The OG. The OG. It's in the blood. Maybe I just thought, you know, she wouldn't do it. I will do it. Would you? Yeah. Well, what channel is it on? Gavin and Stacey. Stacey got the bloody job. With some pet thing as well. Really? I was like, who knew you like pets? Super vet as well, fucksy. I think you should make a good, you know, like the Clarkson's Farm. He's absolute super vet.

25:50Abbey Clancy: He makes prosthetic legs for bloody dogs. He's not you though, is he? I love super vet. So do I as well. Big shout out to Noel. I saw you on the way in, in your barber coat and your big wellies and that. You'd suit like a Clarkson's Farm vibe, the pair of you. I could see a show like that for you guys. What do I mean? You know, guys. I like getting the wellies on and getting out there with dogs. It's a nice pursuit. Yeah. It suits you. Remember when you said to me the other day you wanted to cock a spaniel? I'll do what you were saying. Yeah, I do. I like those, yeah. I'm getting you one? I don't want another one, babe.

26:30Abbey Clancy: You said you'd love one. Yeah, I don't want like five dogs. It's not acceptable. Okay, next. Next weekly wine. Hi, Abby and Pete. Personally, I'm not a fan of having my hair cut. It feels like a far too personal occasion conducted by practically a stranger. Oh, my God. I went to the barbers the other day because one of our friends had Jack from his football match and his son was getting his hair cut. So I went into Alex. His son was getting his hair cut. So then I ended up just speaking to Alex and I was watching this other guy. He was getting a full arm massage with a hot towel on his face. Getting all this on his arm.

27:06Abbey Clancy: I was like, this is the chair. And I was like, oh, my God, this is great in the Barbers. Getting that total full luxury experience. So I just had a chat with Alex, left and forgot Jack. I left Jack with Alex and went to break. Where was this Barbers then? In our local village. Was it? Down the side road. But I just left Jack sitting on the chair playing on Alex's phone. I walked out the door and I was like. I left him in there? Yeah, and I forgot. Oh, my God. That's the only reason I went in there. Yeah, barber experience looks mega. Yeah, some of those. You get the old beard trim and stuff like that.

27:44Might have to get involved.

27:45Abbey Clancy: You should. Okay, well, this is probably directed at more blokes than women. My wine is, considering we've managed to put a man on the moon and we can direct a war missile from hundreds of miles away, can we not invent some kind of helmet that you put on once a month and it cuts your hair to the precision you want it? I seriously think this might be a thing in a couple of decades they probably already exist in Japan great pod, fantastic in fact that's from Tommy hates getting his hair cut see I think there's a deeper rooted issue if you don't like physical touch there's nothing better than getting a head massage I love like when I'm in Paul Edmonds I'm like can you just carry on to 10 more minutes do you know in that Paul Edmonds I've been in there a few times it's all like where you get your hair done I've been in there and it is a good experience you've been going in there for the past 10 years you've been in there a few times I've been in there a few times I don't go in there often you do well now Alfie comes around the house doesn't he sometimes and I tap him up I do tap him up for a haircut what does tap him up mean?

28:53I say can you get off your haircut tap him up I just yeah tap him up I thought that was a saying, is it not? It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a football agent would tap up a player.

29:06Abbey Clancy: Oh, okay. You reach out. Just because we've got Gaz on today, don't be going all football-y. Got the lingo. But yeah. The head massage. Yeah, so what I was saying is, you know, it's like a really minty, fresh shampoo, and it kind of burns a little bit. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's like cold on your head. It's cold on your head. It's a lovely experience. And then they do the cold rinse at the end. I never have the cold rinse. Oh, God. You feel great. Invigorated. Yeah. Pete, have you ever done anything mad with your hair? Have you ever had like a perm? Have you ever dyed your hair? That's some shockers over the years, but nothing like that.

29:45Sam's catching straight. We had a chat with Sam. He was sitting over there this morning.

29:50Abbey Clancy: Oh, gorgeous Sam. He looks amazing with his perm. I love it. It's amazing, but I love the quote. He's got great rest. The quote today was amazing, wasn't it? What did he say? I said, how's your perm going? and he said it's great. I've got the empty fridge shampoo. I've got the salt spray. I'm really enjoying it, actually. I'm deadly serious. I'm just really enjoying it. Thanks, Abby. It's a great project. The mullet perm experience. Looks great, mate. It looks gorgeous. Look at the colour you've made him go. Why? I think he was funny, isn't it? He looks good. He looks fantastic. Looking well. What was the biggest shocker haircut you reckon you've had?

30:29um oh my dad cut it once and I look like Lloyd Christmas why would your dad cut your hair he was like there's no point going because it's just cost 20 quid I'll just do it

30:40Abbey Clancy: why didn't your mum do it well he just my mum wasn't in my mum was mortified when she came home but he chopped the front all different lengths and left like a Chrissy Waddle at the back you know like a little Chris Waddle um just a little rat's tail that was probably the worst but actually I see you know A lot of the Aussies nabbed that haircut. Harry Styles has got it now. We were watching his concert last night. It's a bit malady. All right, guys, this feels like a great time to hear from our sponsors. And while you're there, hit subscribe.

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32:24Abbey Clancy: acast helps creators launch grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere acast.com we're getting into harry styles like we're talking about pop culture in the podcast today you know we say pop culture but like headlines current news current celebrity news okay and harry styles was the first one actually that was up on this list i love his new album it's kind of Australian accent. It's not Australian. It's Manc US. Is that what it is? Have you heard it lately? Have you heard him in the Zane Lowe interview? He's gone full Australian. It's unbelievable. Can Harry Styles do any wrong though? Oh yeah.

33:02Well listen, I like, I love him. I think he's a great, great guy. It's really like, you know, I mean, full transparency, it's like something that I,

33:13Abbey Clancy: even the idea of talking about it feel like I struggle with that a little bit. Do you know what he sounds like? Mark Ronson. Does he? Mark Ronson's got the exact same accent, so it's like English mixed with a bit of American, but it's like L.A., so it's really, like, dragged out. It sounds Australian a bit. What would you call that? You go a little bit Scouse. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. You go a little bit Scouse sometimes. I can't talk, because I do change. When I went to Birmingham with Villa, I did change. I turned Brummie. Did you? I'm a bit Scouse. You were a bit brummy when I met you.

33:50Yeah. No way. Can you do a brummy? Can you try? No, it just, there was a few little twangs.

33:55Abbey Clancy: He used to be like, I like that idea. It's great indeed. Yeah, you like that? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. That's amazing. I didn't know that. A bit like that. But now you're very scouse. Now you say like, where's me coat? Yeah, but you're just around you. Where's me shoes? Around you guys. Our kids are so posh and then they'll say, Mummy, who's taking us to school? really Jack loves it do you think it's hilarious this girl's accent but yeah but I love Harry Styles I love Harry Styles and I think and that thing was good I mean that concert that gig looked good didn't it yeah and he's like yeah that tune is it American Girl I'm into it I've had that on repeat it's a bop it's a tune so good he's so good though isn't he yeah who do you prefer Bieber or Styles well I prefer I prefer Harry Styles do you I've had the pleasure of meeting him so have I I've got a picture of Sophia sitting on his knee when she was four.

34:46I think he was about nine as well. He was really. It's in Nando's. I think they'd just done...

34:52Abbey Clancy: No, he was in Peter East in Camden. Oh, that was another time. Sorry. There was one... Do you remember him in Nando's when he was still on the show? How old is he? It's X Factor time. Yeah. Way back. Wow. Yeah, they'd just come out. They'd literally just become a band. Right, okay. And they were in Nando's in Richmond. And he was like, whoa, how tall are you, Peter Crouch? He went, fuck off, Harry.

35:16Abbey Clancy: I don't have the idea at all. No, we had a picture together. But I've seen him a few times. He's a great, great guy. I want to go and see him on concert. I also want to see Bruno Mars. Oh, he's got a new album out, hasn't he? He's just got absolute tunes. He does. That tune at the moment, I'm into that. It's good. It's the latest one. If You Can't Move. Yeah, it's good, that one. A lot of wedding tunes. He's like every wedding going, I reckon. Every DJ's playing Bruno. Yeah. Time. Great. Yeah. What are you saying about this Jim Carrey thing, right? Things are just coming up on this plan. Jim Carrey clones conspiracy?

35:52Why does the internet think he's an imposter? When Jim Carrey walked onto the stage at the Cesar Awards, is it Cesar Awards? In Paris last week, it felt straightforward, except it wasn't that simple. Within hours of his red carpet images circulating, parts of the internet decided the man accepted the award wasn't Jim Carrey, but a body double, clone, or a stranger. The screenshots travel quickly. Close-ups on his jawline, eyes and facial structure were scrutinised. With Vance Declaren, you can't convince me that's him.

36:20Abbey Clancy: Yeah, but he's been coming up on my algorithm lately for some reason, Jim Carrey. Yeah, has he? I think it's because I'm always looking at cosmetic procedures. Now I'm getting old and probably need a little tweakment. When he comes up. And I think he's had a face, he looks like he's had his eyes done. Yeah, he's just had work done, hasn't he? Let me see. Yeah, he's just had work done, hasn't he? Simon Cowell doesn't look like Simon Cowell anymore. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? He's a bit of an extreme case, isn't he? Of course, that's him. He's just had a fox lift. A fox lift? Yeah, he's had a fox lift.

36:58Abbey Clancy: He looks like he's had an upper bleph, some kind of thread situation. All these people, they've got a lot of money and they want to stay young, but they look terrible. It doesn't look good. The whole reason behind this apparently was he spoke out about the Illuminati and therefore they got him. And now it's a clone walking around, which is just crazy, no? Yeah. My mates believe it as well. I was like, well, that's clearly Jim Carrey. They were like, stay asleep, mate, stay asleep. And you've kind of, yeah. Stay asleep. What do you mean, stay asleep? He's asleep. His eyes aren't open. He's not awake.

37:33The situation, that's not Jim Carrey.

37:35Abbey Clancy: It's 100 % Jim Carrey. Definitely. But you just don't know what to believe now. Like, you know, social media with all that AI. I posted that thing, didn't I? Of an elephant saving a tiger. And everyone's like, Avi, it's AI, get with it. I believed that as well. So did I. You said that to me and I was like, oh, my God. I was crying. A lion was drowning in Africa somewhere. And this elephant scooped it out the water and threw it on its back. And then it was holding on to it around its neck. Please tell me you've seen me and Messi in Croydon. No. Oh, look at this. Is it AI? No. No, I played football against Messi in Croydon.

38:26Abbey Clancy: I can tell that's not you because the robot's far too good. Do you know what? I knew she was going to say that. I knew she was going to say that. Hips don't lie, baby. that's hysterical can you believe that oh so funny it's like it's even with like all the Epstein stuff you know it's all these terrible things coming out about like eating babies and drinking have you not seen it all what's this like drinking babies blood and all these children are sacrificed and they worship this kind of devil god and it's horrific stuff horrific horrific horrific and then there's all like Hollywood A-listers involved, politicians.

39:11But this is what my problem is when I say to you that you're going to bed at night and you scroll on Instagram for ages and look at all this stuff.

39:20Abbey Clancy: And then I think I'm going to be sick. And then it goes to me, I can't get to sleep. I'm like, well, I'll tell you what would be good. If you came to bed and put your phone, left your phone in a drawer downstairs. We like our car map there. Yeah, we did there. A crack at Toombie. What's his name? Oh, yeah. Oogie Oogie Toonra, or whatever his name is. What's this? No idea what his name is. It's a guy on the Calm app, and he does 35 minutes. It's good. Meditation. We don't have the TV on now. Does it work? Is it good? Do you know what you should do? Genuinely, you know when you go upstairs, I reckon the phone should not be allowed upstairs.

39:56I agree. If you put that in a drawer, on charge, put them all, anyone who's got a device, downstairs, leave it there, you know, you might not wake up, Your alarm might not wake you up. Just get an old school alarm clock. Oh, yeah. Right? Like a nice alarm clock. Put it next to our bed. No phones upstairs. What a lovely way to live. Seriously. Says you.

40:15Abbey Clancy: You were watching the fucking match in bed last night? On your phone with headphones in? Oh, really? Great. Yeah, but I don't often do that. It was a Champions League night. Unbelievable games. And there was games everywhere. And I was so excited. Yeah. It's like, you know. Me, Mami and Sophia dancing to Harry Styles. Yeah. It's so cute. You know, Champions League night's a big night. knockout phase now though. But anyway, I think that's a really good way to live. I genuinely think that's a good way to live. No anxiety before bed. You know, you can talk to each other. Because it's even... Maybe more.

40:50You can watch films.

40:52Abbey Clancy: Yeah. You know, you can chill. I can't watch anything bad though now before bed. Everything's so bad. I'm maddery. But you say that on Netflix but then you're still give me all this information. It's complicated. Have you seen that movie? No, what's that about? Oh, it's just fabulous. I swear for what. Meryl Streep, Alec Baldwin, Steve Martin. Oh, wow. What a cast. And it's just phenomenal. It's just, she's got the best house in the world. She's like the best person, isn't she, in the world? Amazing cook. It's a rom-com. Is it film or series? It's a movie. Okay. It's fabulous. It's old, but it's up there in one of my favourite films.

41:30Abbey Clancy: It's just so pleasant. It is a good film. That's nice. That sounds nice. Feel good. Feel good. Got another one here, right? Timothy Chamolet triggers a backlash over ballet and opera remarks. I've seen that. Do you know everyone's saying Timothy Chamolet is the Scouse rapper? Oh, yeah. E.D. Yeah. Who's saying that? The guy in the hood. Yeah. I bet he couldn't even do a Scouse accent. Has he done a rap with him? That Scouse rapper? He's good. Sorry. As the kid is his name. He just had a huge deal. But Timothy Chamolet... Timothy Chamolet's done a music video with him. Has he? Yeah, in his house in Liverpool.

42:08Abbey Clancy: Maybe it is Timothy Chamolet then, because he's got the same eyes. That is mad. He's got some tunes to be fair. I actually like his Scoush rapper. Yeah, he's good. He's very good. I want to be in his video. Never mind, fucking Timothy Chamolet. Anyway... Who is he signed to? Atlantic, probably. Shall we have a look? He did the Gucci party, and he's so good. What's the tune again? What's the big one? Four Roars. He's a little bit violent. SD Kid featuring Timothy, yeah, Charlamagne, Four Roars. I don't think it's Four Roars. Is it not? Would you? No. I like him. I've listened to him a lot. It's this one.

42:47Phantom. I knew it wasn't Four Roars. It's this one.

42:50Abbey Clancy: No, we're talking about the one with Timothy Chamolais. Oh, right. No, this is the tune, this one.

42:58Tuneus.

42:58Abbey Clancy: Hey, hey. He goes, hey.

43:07Great tune, that.

43:13When are you listening to that? Just walking the dogs? In the car.

43:19Those are the same eyes as him.

43:21Abbey Clancy: Exactly.

43:25Abbey Clancy: I love Timothy Chamolix. he clearly does oh sorry I think he likes the rapper what do you think about his comments though about ballet and opera dying I think that's quite insulting because you know ballet and opera it's it's

43:50is that Timothy Chamolet singing is it

44:062017

44:08Abbey Clancy: 2017 2017

44:28Abbey Clancy: That's unreal. He's definitely easy. He's definitely him. What do you think? There's no way Tim and Richelle. at least being at home dreaming off of being a Scouse rapper. No way. No way that's happened. That's a big pull though to get Timothy Chamolaine in your video if you're just, not just a Scouse rapper. Yeah. Some mad lyrics on that song, aren't they? Are we, Is Dick as young and restless? Shut up, Timothy. Give it a rest. That joke. What's his name, Ed Z? SD Kid, I think, yeah. SD card. That's great. I hear SD cards every fucking day of my life. SD card. That's what you say, don't you? These are like a good day.

45:20Absolutely SD card perverts.

45:22Abbey Clancy: DJ Scottlead. SD card perverts. Okay. You say no one cares about the ballet or the opera. I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive or no one cares about this anymore. you went on to say all respect to all the ballet and opera people out there I just lost 14 cents in viewerships I took shots for no reason That sounds like one of those SD cards rap lyrics I took shots for no reason Don't ever rap again please

46:00Abbey Clancy: It would be hard to rap in a Scouse accent though I think I go American when I rap Yeah, because you're just used to American rap. There's not many Scouse rappers, is there, really? Can you name any? Are there any famous Scouse? Like this lad? Yeah, I don't. Yeah. I'm sure there's a rap scene out there. I think he... I'm not across it. I think he is Timothy Chalamet. I think he's the same person. Do you think Timothy Chalamet's just in LA thinking, I'm going to be a Scouse rapper? I don't think there's... It's a great marketing campaign. Why would you not reveal your face then? Timothy Chalamet has been rapping since he was a little boy.

46:37Abbey Clancy: He did that Times Table rap, didn't he, when he was a kid? You're not seeing that video? It's about ten. But that was quite a good PR. It's like Gorillaz did it, didn't they? And who's the other one that did that as well? Jack Black, didn't he just do that, didn't he? What, Tenacious D? Tenacious D, were they revealed? Well, Sia did it, didn't she? Oh, yeah, the haircut, yeah. And everyone just kind of... It's like parched. And we did parched on my other football pod. Mr. Blobby. Yeah, Mr Blobby, who's inside? Who's inside? Yeah. Who's inside, Mr Blobby? Sounds wrong. Noel Edmonds.

47:14Abbey Clancy: Noel Edmonds. Where the fuck's he going? I don't know. It could be some stuff, I don't know. Oh, really? I don't know. I just don't know. Going back to Timmy C, I think... Timmy, what's that about? I don't know. Now he's a rapper. Oh, right. Yeah. I think opera is, people like opera. It's a huge lifelong discipline, ballet. The training is excruciating. You know, it's intense. And I think the arts should be respected. But, you know, at the same time, things do move on. You know, people haven't got the attention span to watch a three-hour opera now. Unless you're passionate about it now. Now the kids won't even do three seconds on a bloody YouTube sync or whatever they're called.

48:06I think it's our duty to keep things like that alive though. Tradition. Because it's hundreds and hundreds of years old. You know, like people going to the opera hundreds and hundreds of years ago. It's, yeah, it's kind of, it's like saying, oh yeah, not enough people are going to look at art anymore. You shouldn't just shut galleries, should you? I think our history needs to be preserved. I think you should keep it alive. Even if it's not.

48:29Abbey Clancy: I think all art forms, and it shouldn't matter if it's not catering for the masses. I don't think opera or ballet ever did cater for the masses. It's a very kind of prestigious thing, isn't it? I think it's our duty as well, as parents even, to take them to museums, galleries. When they get to school, they should learn about... Why do you keep saying museums and galleries when we're talking about ballet and opera? I'm just talking about arts and historical things in general. They need to be preserved, I think. And I think opera and those things, they might not be the most popular thing. No, because, you know, when it kind of, where it originated from, they would never, you know, from the Roman times, and you would never, there was no TV, no electricity, no radio.

49:16Abbey Clancy: You know, it's one of the first art forms of entertainment, isn't it? And it should be cherished and, you know, respected. The craft. Yeah, the craft and people should be educated about it. It's quite a prestigious thing and it's kind of linked to wealthy people, isn't it? Yeah, listen, I've not been to one opera show or ballet. I have. One of my friends works at the Royal Opera House and it's incredible. It's an incredible evening and it's nice to do something different. And the people that do it are incredibly talented, aren't they? So talented. Well, we had Paul Potts singing Nessun Dorma, didn't we?

50:00Yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. On Crouchfest. Crouchfest, yeah. That blew me away. Was he good? Unreal. Unbelievable voice. Incredible.

50:08Abbey Clancy: Where were we where I was practising there? In opera form? Nessun Dorma? Remember? Were you going to sing on Crouchfest? Oh, my God, you should. You've got some pipes, by the way. I heard you singing earlier. You've got a good... Give us a bit of Nessun Dorma now. Go on. I will not. No.

50:34I'm not doing it now. No, she has got it in the bag.

50:40Abbey Clancy: What are we talking about next? Pipe down, Timothy. Get back to Liverpool, mate. Get rapping. Agony Abs? Yes. Do you want to go for one? I'll do it. But I just get staged right and I can't read. No, you can read. You're a good reader. Hey Abby and Peter, absolutely love, love, love, love the podcast And as a single parent, listening to the two of you And Ross Often makes me feel less alone And a part of a very fun-loving family A few years after separating from my kid's dad I started dating my electrician I was fully hot for his services He seemed lovely, a good dad to his kids And generally solid After a couple of months, he started calling me his girlfriend So I assumed we were in a proper relationship I didn't actually know anyone knew him or his background and couldn't stalk him as he had social media on total lockdown.

51:33Abbey Clancy: So he used one of those apps that checks whether someone is still active on dating apps. Ooh, what's that? What's one of those? I don't know, that's Sleuthy. Yeah. So I know I probably should have just asked him directly, but I was trying to be careful and I wanted to check he was solid before I did the kids' intros properly. As it goes, it turned out he was still actively swiping on Tinder. God knows what else. I did pull him up on it, but he said he was trying to delete it. At the time, I convinced myself that this might be modern dating and carried on seeing him casually for another couple of years.

52:08Abbey Clancy: Ooh. All without doubt in the back of my mind, but hoping it might change. Throughout the relationship, he had a running commentary about other women fancying him, and he spoke how easy it was to have an affairs on Snapchat. I can't even bloody use that Snapchat. I've got no idea what it is. Yeah. I keep getting notifications every two seconds. What, to use it? Like, you've got a friend. And I'm like, who is it? I don't know yet. And you added me as a friend the other day. I'm not even on it, babe. You did? Well, I didn't know. It wasn't me. It must have been. I'm telling you, it's not. My lovely hubby's just added you as a friend on Snapchat.

52:49I haven't even got Snapchat, babe.

52:51Abbey Clancy: You must have. I've also had my life, haven't I? Anyway, in hindsight, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't that invested. Looking back, it is a bit nuts that I didn't call it earlier. So my question is really about dating apps. In modern dating, what is the etiquette? At what point in dating should someone actually delete the apps? Is it when you become exclusive, when someone calls you their girlfriend, or in six months, still considered fair game these days. I'd genuinely love to hear your thoughts on this, especially when precious kids are involved and need to be protected. Thanks for the brilliant podcast.

53:24Abbey Clancy: Love you guys. Yeah, this is the issue. Like, because we were kind of before the apps, weren't we? So I don't know the rules on apps. You could probably give us more of a thing on this. An insight into the apps. The app world. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I met my partner on the apps. Did you? Yeah. When did you tell? There you go. When did you delete? When did you come off? What's his name? Yeah. that's grown up grow up oh yeah yeah i uh i yes we did bumble and i think i deleted it pretty much after like date number four maybe legit yeah and it wasn't even a conversation yeah i don't know it wasn't even a conversation piece it was just like uh when you know you know this is what you do now right because you wouldn't want to be caught with the app still on your phone when it's all going well right because i'll just lead to i don't know i think with these apps it It seems like there's way too much temptation.

54:12Abbey Clancy: And I think in the back of everyone's minds, I assume they think the grass is always greener. What if, what if that neck swipe is, you know, it's almost too much choice, isn't it? It's like when I go like clothes shopping. It's exactly like, should I get this dress or should I get five of them? Yeah, no, you're thinking, do you know what I mean? Should I get this dress or will it be a better one in the next shop? That's what it is, isn't it really? because you're like, there could be better out there. You know, yeah, it's great, but... Yeah, but you don't have to be on an app to know that. Like, you could not be my soulmate.

54:51Abbey Clancy: And I just haven't found him because we settled for each other. Do you know what I mean? That's a nice way of looking at it, mate. But this is enough, both of us, so we settled. Yeah, we settled! But if we were on the apps... It could be better out there. No, if we were on the apps, it might not have been the case. What? Oh, yeah, it's all right for you to say it. Not for me. I'm joking, but you know what I mean. Maybe there is better out there. For us? Yeah, maybe. Don't know, do you? Piss off, peace.

55:28Must be hard parenting, though, right, in this new age, because they're going to be on the apps, surely, one day, when they're a bit older. You'd imagine. It's like the new way people connect, isn't it? I think apparently... Isn't it scary, like, meeting a complete stranger

55:39Abbey Clancy: I know if you meet someone in a bar, like organically, they're still a stranger, aren't they? Well, people say exclusive, don't they? Like, are we boyfriend and girlfriend now? That's when you delete the app. Before then, it's fair. They've been together for a long time. This is years now. That's an app delete, definitely. Does she not want to rock the boat, maybe? I'd be like, get that fucking app off your phone now. Yeah, 100%, yeah. Well, I know you would. and I would be, I would. What would you do if I was going out with you for two years and had a date nap on my phone? I'd just tell everyone she's just not that into me.

56:17That's what I'd be saying. I'd say, oh, you've got to take it what it is. It's just, she's not into me.

56:22Abbey Clancy: I'm still a bit like funny over the dating multiple people at once thing. You know, like if you've gone on a few dates with someone on a Monday night and then on a Wednesday, you've met someone else on the app and you're going to meet them. and then Friday, you can go back to Monday. Pet Girl. Sounds like Craig David, yeah?

56:43Seven days.

56:45Abbey Clancy: I love that song, Craig David. But you know what I mean? Who was it I saw recently? He said that he went out with Craig David. I was Jack Whitehall. I heard him say it. Did you hear him say that? No, what did he say? Oh, he made me laugh. Did he actually go out with her? Craig David came over and he said he spoke to his wife for ages. Spoke to whose wife? Jack Whitehall's wife for ages and then after she said yeah we had a thing together he said yeah but what kind of thing he was like no we we were you know we're good friends whatever and he said yeah but what day was it because if it was a Monday or Tuesday it's fine to be Saturday Saturday that's great they were making love by Wednesday that is great he said Monday, Tuesday that's totally fine nothing past Wednesday Sunday or Wednesday is okay but anything in between do you know it was so cringe when I was young and I had my phone do you remember you used to be able to record your own voice yeah yeah ringtones and things my answer machine was Craig David please leave a message that's genius I'm fucking amazing I sang that and that was my you sang that that was my voicemail I remember when your ringtone was baby kicks you just don't know that's what you used to call me baby geeks you just don't know what a tune that was I think it's I just think what is the etiquette do we know what they've been together for like years it feels like now you know like that's they've got it's got to be gone it's got to be gone if you're going to do anything serious if you're just having fun to crack on but is it acceptable to date multiple people until you find the one yeah is that what is that what these cats are doing oh sorry like yeah she wants to know what the etiquette is for the online dating world?

58:37Well, I just think once you go past that, even a couple of weeks, three weeks maybe, like see each other.

58:41Abbey Clancy: Because you could meet someone, don't like them, so then it's on to the next one. Yeah. Meet someone else, like him, arrange a second date. Give him another date maybe. Yeah. But still see him. And then see someone. And I think you're right, actually, around date four. Date four. It's getting more serious, committing to each other's time. Yeah? Yeah. All right. That's official. Official date four. Delete the app. Wow. delete the app on date four if it goes well it's obviously going well if you've had four dates on the fourth date it's a bit shit keep it don't be muddy in the waters no because if you go out and go oh fuck I'm getting my nerves now do you know what I mean if it's gone well on date four yeah I see what you're saying date four's got to be success yeah alright all right okay let's move on this one's from laura j love the podcast you make me how week in week out drives uh on my drives around town trying to get my seventh month old to sleep in the car anyway the reason i'm writing to you we didn't do that did we sometimes yeah they do they do fall asleep in the car they don't they but some people take the babies out yeah that's when your your wits end i think yeah um the reason i'm writing to you both is to get some confirmation on something my partner and I were having a debate a few weeks back about the trips he goes on at the age of 34 he's a huge England football supporter and he's part of the Travellers Club so he goes to, follows England all over the world and he's also big into his golf so during this discussion about his trips he's taking the piss this guy I said he's so lucky to have so many lads holidays each year it's not a lads holiday though is it?

1:00:21considering he has two young children well he's following England

1:00:23Abbey Clancy: but you would say that's not a lads holiday it's a golf trip and watching football That's what you'd say. Yeah, it's part of his DNA. Yeah. But he was adamant they definitely weren't lads' holidays. He called them golf trips and international duty. There you go. What I'm unsure about is how they're not lads' holidays when they are... They'll probably come home with, like, alcoholic poisoning or something. I don't like this one. Okay, that concludes today's podcast. We've enjoyed it. We'll see you next time. Are you joking? Are you absolutely joking? This is a double standard rule. This is something we...

1:01:07Abbey Clancy: Thanks for your email, Laura. I loved it. This is a major issue in our house. If it's a golf trip, it's not a lads holiday. But this non-lads holiday starts with a drink in the airport, then drinking all day, then golf all day, then more drinking, then get up, drink for breakfast, play golf, more drinking, stay up all night, drink again and play golf. But it's not a guy's holiday. Sounds like a dream day, that what you've just described. Yeah, all right. Okay, so next week we will be back. No, come on. Have you enjoyed it? And Pete's like, I'm like, well, I'm going away with the girls. And he's like, well, it's not the same thing.

1:01:42Abbey Clancy: You're going to Ibiza. We're on a golf trip. It's a completely different thing. A girl's trip would not consume a fraction of the amount of alcohol as a man would on a golf trip and we would 100 % get more sleep. Yeah. Care to retort? No, listen, I think golf trips are, you know, they're great fun. They really are. There's something special about, you know, going somewhere and just switching off and drinking. There's something about going somewhere and switching your phone off. It's about male bonding. You can just relax and just have fun. But no, all I'm saying is you just, it's a nice thing to do.

1:02:29I'm not, I would never back down on that. It is a nice thing to do. And he's the same. He's going with his mates to watch football and have it on a golf trip. And yeah, I understand. He's got responsibility. He's got to look after his child as well.

1:02:42Abbey Clancy: Okay, so are you saying a golf trip is not on boys' holiday? Well, now I know you're onto it, I would say that it's a lads trip, but it's golf. Well, I'm glad we sorted that one out. Peter Crouch, live on air, has finally admitted after nearly 21 years together that as a golf trip is a lads holiday. It's not a lads holiday, babe. It's a lads going on a golf trip. No, it's not. Lads are going on a golf trip. No, no, no, no, no, no. On that note, we will see you next week. And I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on Pete's bombshell, because it's only taken me 20 years to get that out of him.

1:03:22Abbey Clancy: So thank you. It's England international duty as well. The man's going on international duty. We're getting somewhere. It's his duty. We're getting somewhere. This is therapy for us. I didn't say that. Yes, you did. It's a lads golf trip. It's not a lads trip. It's a lads holiday. It's not a lads holiday. Rewind it. Okay, guys, we love you and we're going to leave you. Bye. Before I leave him. Bye.

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