Knob Shopping, Renovation Chaos & Abbey and Peter Face Their Biggest Parenting Challenge Yet…

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2:11Abbey Clancy: The huge, the wide. Huge knobs. Hey, would you want to see the knockers in LA? Let me say that. No, what are you doing? You can't be eating out the bloody bin. I'll buy you a pizza for God's sake. Put that down. That's my attempt at a double-ed accent. Maradona punched it in over Shorten with his hand. The ball broke? What, like, popped?

2:36Abbey Clancy: Shall we get on with the... The therapy crouch. Hello, and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abby Clancy. Me, Peter Crouch. Darling, do you want to get off your phone? No, I'm looking at my... This is my... The plan. This is me working. I know you just roll up and just chat. I just keep this whole thing going. We didn't even intro our Gaz there. Oh, there's Gaz. How are you, mate? Hi, guys. I'm good. How are we? Gaz, you're looking sexual with your new hairstyle. Thank you. It's a little bit violent at the back, but I've gone... I asked for a mid-fade one back and sides. A mid-fade? And he's shaved my whole head pretty much, so...

3:16It's pretty aggressive at the back. It is aggressive. Is it like a mohawk have you gone for? Is that what it looks like?

3:24Abbey Clancy: I don't know whether it's like Declan Rice or Tiger King. Tiger King? It's a mixture between Declan Rice and Tiger King. I'm not sure. From what I can see on this screen, because it's got like that kind of mullety thing going on at the front, but then the kind of England player fade. They must all have the same bloody hairdresser. Not one of them's got a bloody sidey between them. Do you know what they do? They actually do. I remember what it was like in England dressing because one person had a haircut that the lads wanted and the same hairdresser or barber came into the camp. You've got to think they're in camp there for two weeks before they go to the World Cup and then four weeks, potentially, in the World Cup.

4:07There's six weeks without a haircut. So they've got to come into the camp and everyone has the same barber. Yeah, exactly right. Right, so everyone's got the same haircut.

4:13Abbey Clancy: But what's with the no sideys look? I haven't really noticed that. Is that the... Every player has got no sideys. Ones who've got short back and sides have got no sideys whatsoever. Really? I like a sidey. I've always liked a sidey as well. Abs, you prefer the longer hair, don't you? I went with John to the barber and... Oh my God, John hasn't cut his hair, has he? Well, this is the thing. So it was expensive barber, right? It wasn't cheap, right? It was Sunset Boulevard, so quite expensive. and he had his partner with him who was helping guide the hairdresser into how to cut his hair. She must have just nibbled the ends off like literally a millimetre off his hair and that was it.

4:51It was about 100 quid. I thought that's just a waste, isn't it? I could do that. I could give him that trim. I hate R.

4:57Abbey Clancy: John's hair short. He used to look so gorgeous with his long hair and then he shaved it off for some reason and ended up looking like in the bad kid from Toy Story. What, Sid? Sid. The bad kid. Isn't there a new Toy Story out soon? I hope so. I love it. Do you know what I did last night? Watched my very first World Cup game. I really had. Did you enjoy it? The England game? The England game? That's the first one I've seen. Can you believe that? Did you get into spirit of the World Cup or not? Yeah, I thought Harry Kane was immense. We love him, don't we? We love him. But everyone, all the kids, thinks he looks identical to you, Pete.

5:40I know, yeah.

5:41Abbey Clancy: They were all saying it last night. People do think I'm his dad or something. No, I don't think dad. I think dashing older brother. Dashing older brother. I'll take it. It was amazing, wasn't it? Were you up celebrating when he scored? Do you know what? I was actually in the loo and I just heard the whole bar erupt and I thought, I literally can't believe this. you know I've missed the goal I saw the first one but I missed the second do you know I've gone obviously I'm doing the work with Fox out here for the World Cup I've got the opportunity to go to Mexico City to watch do you know the Aztec are you familiar with the Maradona hand of God is that the film with all the kids in the street I think that's City of God City of God, yeah, the Brazilians.

6:40Abbey Clancy: Oh, okay, is that a different thing? You're not really familiar with the Maradona hand. Is the hand of God that gold trophy? No, that's the World Cup trophy, but... Oh, I know I sound like an absolute moron here, I'm not trying to. Not at all, not at all. I hate it when, like, girls pretend to be thick. I genuinely don't know. No, you're genuinely thick, we know that.

7:02No, you're not a football fan, so I thought you might know it because it's very famous. Basically, so Maradona scored the best goal anyone's ever seen. Have you ever seen the goal where he turns on halfway? It's in the 86 World Cup versus England, and he goes around the goalkeeper and he scores.

7:18Abbey Clancy: Yeah, because I saw something on my algorithm to say, we know what happened the last time England played at Mexico City, and it was 1986. There you go, brilliant. I want to know what happened. That's the year I was born. Yeah, well, there you go. So the year you were born, Maradona scored the greatest goal, potentially, of all time. so the greatest girl was born and the greatest female was born in that year also the hand of God so basically when Maradona the ball broke and Maradona punched it in over Shorten with his hand the ball broke? what like popped?

7:56should we get on with the what do you mean?

8:02Abbey Clancy: sorry I know I sound like I'm a complete loser I can't explain it anymore but basically Maradona handballed a goal into the he handballed it over our goalkeeper Peter Shorten and the referee allowed it to count it was obviously a case of cheating but the referee gave it and the goal was given and England went out of the World Cup this is the longest we've spent apart and you better get home soon because I'm starting to like get used to not being with you now and it's actually it's actually you're fine It's not as bad as I thought. So I'm absolutely joking. It's actually been horrible, especially after our anniversary, not together.

8:41Abbey Clancy: And, you know, luckily I've got Lucinda. She turned up today. That's good. Well, I noticed, yeah. When you've had a few beverages this last evening. We did. We watched the match, like the rest of the whole whale pizza. Don't be judging us on that, sister. And then, yeah, we were in a bush together. oh my god in a bush have you heard about this no what this is something I need to kind of navigate really like I don't know we've got an older daughter she's 15 now and you know I don't know boys are hanging around so there was like two groups of teenagers a few girls a few boys and they all went off and had a little walk and Lucinda and I were in a bush stalking them watching them like crawling through the bushes Lucinda's like cut to ribbons.

9:34Oh my God. What do we think about that? Like, I don't know, like as parents, so this is new to us. Like we've got kind of a 15 year old daughter. When this kind of, they get a little bit older, obviously things are going to start happening. The thing is,

9:48Abbey Clancy: I think Sophia's so sensible. Yeah. And she's quite like a young 15. And she's very honest with us. Like she tells us everything. As you know, Pete, we've had some, you know, you know she definitely fills us in on the goss of what's going on in the teenage world obviously she's not included in that like if this was lib i would be 10 times more you know anxious about the whole thing because she's wild you know lib is definitely like you know going to be give us more worries than sophia but it's so weird you know when i speak to my friends who've who have got daughters the same age as Sophia but they've got older teens they're kind of you know okay with everything and a little bit more relaxed but I'm like panicking like crawling through army crawling through bushes Lucinda was like James Bond like ducking behind cars and you know it was we were just spying on the kids but we were peeing ourselves laughing it was so funny and then the worst thing is on our way home we'd had a few drinks with our friend and um Libby just had a crap and it was in like you know like a plastic takeaway container pete you'll die and then off so our friend didn't know where we got it from we got out the car we're like on this bench while we wait for sophia and fiona thought lucy had got it out the bin and was eating it out the bin and was like no what are you doing you can't be eating out the bloody bin i'll buy you a pizza for god's saying put that down that's my attempt at a dublin accent that was quite good and i was hysterical knowing you can't get your words out because you're laughing so much she thought she'd eaten lucid just like rummaged through a bin and got like this leftover crap it's so funny but we had such a laugh it's so weird not like not watching football with you no so i can go so who's that what did he just do?

11:43Abbey Clancy: What did that mean? Yes, you're not really getting it explained to you. No, no. Yeah, that is a bit of a blow. But we had a top table. We were in the yard and we were right at the front and the kids were all running around. They all had their little England kits on. It was such a lovely day, but you were missed. They looked amazing, babe, like all the kids. I saw them all got their England kits on. I know, I know. You're great, that. But it's exciting, babe. Lucy got all the kits and she did what you did nowhere it's like small infant instead of small junior so all the kids were in like three to four age three to four kits like crop tops I did think that I saw Jack had a little crop top on Jack's a skin tight and we were trying to make him swap with Lib like Lib you have the little tight one and she was like no I want the baggy one so because on Jack's birthday Gaz Pete's one job was to get all the football kits and he got like small infant which is like age three to four instead of small junior, which is like seven to eight.

12:43I love the fact that you always say Pete's one job.

12:49Abbey Clancy: But to be fair, darling, it was your one job. Like that's not a dig. It's just a fact. I'm just saying the fact. I got loads of the presents for the birthdays, actually. Have you got any weekly wines then for me? This is our new thing that we've started doing now. When someone says something you don't like, you just change the subject completely. Just immediately move it on. I love that. I love that. Babe, I have got a weekly wine. Obviously, I don't know if you know, we're kind of halfway through a renovation of the new house. Oh, right, yeah. And we're not halfway through, honey. We're just starting.

13:19Well, it feels like we're halfway through because basically these bills keep coming through, right? And bearing in mind I'm obviously in Los Angeles at the moment, the bills just keep coming through. No context to them and no decision has been kind of carefully planned. So, you know, we haven't discussed anything. it's just like this is happening pay it with no kind of context so what i'd appreciate in future kind of when these kind of bills rise is to number one tell me what they're for or at least discuss

13:50Abbey Clancy: maybe beforehand should we do this it's so funny because joe i said joe started talking to me about the light switches and the light the mood lighting and all this jazz yeah i got all that and i said the boilers, these industrial and I just like, I said, oh that's a Pete question. She said, oh yeah you're not interested in it. Pete actually sent me some lighting designs, he like, I went to send them to me before I gave so I can give the green light or say no. So all those, all that lighting so all that lighting inspo that you sent to Joe is just absolutely not happening. Why not? Because it's shit Pete.

14:30Abbey Clancy: Those lights down the drive? Yeah but it's not right why not i get lights down the drive but not like that so i've changed it all so it's gonna look amazing but it's you know it's gonna cost you what the fuck is going on here so i had two jobs you're not even you're gonna change the boilers that i've picked as well are you no you can keep your boilers i'll keep my boilers so hold on hold on are we getting a new your house right and my only input in the whole fucking thing is a couple of boilers yeah that's not correct that is no but i the thing is i know you're saying this to me like i'm being mean i just you know i know you're out in la you're working so hard i just want to get the house perfect for you by the time you get back bullshit you just don't want any input do you even want me in it do you even want me in it i just gotta live in the boiler room with my boilers Tile House is not a home without you in it.

15:26Abbey Clancy: I need you there. But I'm just trying to surprise you and make sure it's all done. Abs, where did you get to with your knobs? Your radiator knobs? Did you go down and pick them out? With my knobs? Yeah, for the radiator. Did you go knob shopping while I was away? They're huge. They're wide. Huge knobs. Hey, you want to see the knockers in LA? Let me tell you that. We've got a whole document, Joe and I. So Joe from Tile House is... helping me with my project. She's done a whole knob document.

16:04Abbey Clancy: I keep it for bedtime reading.

16:10Really? Oh, that is good.

16:12Abbey Clancy: I have got a knob document, but it's not the type of knob document you're thinking of. You know, they're nice and brass. Brass and long ones, short ones. Shiny knob. Round ones.

16:29Abbey Clancy: to be honest though a door knob is the only kind of knob I'm interested in really I know that it's fine or a nice cupboard knob give me that any day I know they're far more exciting for you they are I know I know I've resigned myself to that effect

16:52Abbey Clancy: I'm only joking no but it's very exciting the house is really coming together and joking aside like I genuinely am trying to you know get it done for you so it's as perfect as it can be joking aside I actually don't want any input whatsoever in it so if you would genuinely I'm perfectly happy for you to crack on if you just keep the thing is we've got the same taste so I know everything I'm choosing you'll absolutely love anyway Is your kid's birthday coming up? Don't stress the prep. The Party Shop at Michaels is your one-stop shop for everything from bluey to rodeo. Transform your space into a birthday wonderland with dream-worthy tablescapes and decor starting at 99 cents.

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18:58Abbey Clancy: you know and you're definitely in the forefront of my mind when i am making these decisions you know it's our forever home so we have listen we've got a little like outdoor kitchen thing with the few beers on draft i'd like to have some input in that section of the house it's a good section other than that you know bedrooms it's all out of these department lounge really everything else i'd suggest you've got your office and all you've got you've got your wine cellar and all that jazz got a wine cellar there was a wine cellar originally in the house no way yeah and it looks great as well but i said to the guy i said look he had all his wines in there and i said to him i'm gonna struggle like to to fill this would you leave some and it just wouldn't look as nice So there are Oyster Bay in there.

19:44Oyster Bay Echo Falls and Nine Crimes from Majestic. Nine Crimes. Yeah, as much as I love them. It's quite a good wine, though. I'm happy with it. Abs, do you have a wine for Pete or a shine for Pete?

19:54Abbey Clancy: I've got a weekly shine. He's been a very good boy and he's working hard and he's not giving me any grief when it comes to this house. So, yeah, tick, tick, tick. Oh, thanks, babe. I appreciate that. It's not often I get one of those guys. I'm sure you'll think of something in the foreseeable. But here's one from our listeners. Hi, Pete, Abby and Gaz. Firstly, thank you for reading my story on the pod. Hearing you all discuss what has now become in our household known as the incident was absolutely hysterical. What's the incident? I'm pleased to report that I took your advice and finally spoke to the lingerie crustacean himself.

20:34Do you remember this one? Yes. The man in the business suit with the lingerie dancing. He says, I'm pleased to report I took your advice and I spoke to him. I wanted to bring it up in the safest, most comfortable way possible because the last thing I wanted for it was him to think I was attacking him or making fun of him. As awkward as it was for both, I love the man and I wanted him to feel able to explain himself. And Abby, you were onto something. It turns out he was simply curious. There wasn't some secret double life, no hidden agenda, no underground crab society. He'd been exploring something that brought him comfort.

21:08and wanted to understand why he found it so enjoyable. Now, whilst that explanation made perfect sense and completely put my mind at ease, it still doesn't change the fact that I unexpectedly walked into my bedroom to find a grown man wearing a full business suit, my lingerie over the top of the suit, performing an interpretive crab dance. A detail I completely forgot to mention in my original submission was that there was music playing. Pump up the jam. Pump up the jam.

21:36Abbey Clancy: Pump up the jam. Pump it up. That's an absolute shame, I don't know. If he found comfort in it, so, you know, it's not like a beautiful silk that's caressing his skin and makes him feel luxurious and feels beautiful. It's over his suit, so what comfort is he getting over there? No. Well, listen, she goes on to say, it's an important thing we've talked about. We're absolutely fine. It hasn't changed how I feel about him one bit. I'm happy to report that since writing in, we've got engaged. Wow. So perhaps at the wedding, we'll embrace our story and have an underwater theme. If anyone sees a groom entering sideways to pump up the jam, please mind your own business.

22:13Thank you again for the brilliant advice, the last, and for featuring my dilemma. Problem officially resolved. Lots of love. My now fiancé of the lingerie-wearing crab.

22:25Abbey Clancy: What a... Well, what a great woman. What a great woman if she's, you know, comfortable with that and is still happy and wants to be engaged. And that's great. There's no problem all around, is it? People have quirk. but you know if the person you're with who loves you is fine with that then that's a win-win how would you feel if we went for dinner and I had your underwear just like underneath you used to put Stacey's dresses on every time we used to go back to hers after a party our friend Jason and Stacey Stacey had to hide all her maxi dresses Peter'd be in the wardrobe come downstairs in all her gear and be dancing around the thing like think it was hilarious you tell me I'm assuming that was for a laugh You tell me, right, if we get back at two in the morning, right, and I go outside, you don't know where I've gone, and I walk in in a maxi dress, are you telling me that's not funny?

23:18Abbey Clancy: Which is actually a midi on Pete, by the way. It was purely for a laugh. Bantz is what I think we call it. I think it always went down. If you're in a club and there's a fair coat knocking about, Jesus Christ, Pete, you'd have it on. Okay, well, I'll move on to Kath. Listen to the pods every Sunday, Monday at work, giggling around the shop at Tesco. Anyhow, I'm on the episode the other week and Abby is saying she has no lookalikes. Oh my God. Number one, actually told you about Samantha Kenny when she was on Love Island a few years ago. I was convinced you guys were related. She's also Scouse and is your double.

23:54Love you guys. That's Kath. Have you ever seen Samantha, babe?

23:58Abbey Clancy: God, I wish. She's beautiful and she's about 20 years younger than me. I don't think I look like her, but that's a compliment, so thank you. What do you think, P? No one as beautiful as her. That's nice. There isn't. Okay, Dom says, good morning to LA people and good evening to UK people. Bit of an odd one, but I'm a Brit living in LA, basically a California wanker. I've been out here for nearly 11 years. I'm a huge fan of the pods and I hope you've been enjoying Los Angeles so far. Just listen to the pod where the big man flew back to Portugal for a few days with the fam. it was lovely but Gaz was alone in LA and then it clicked that he might be by himself on the 4th of July so if Gaz or anyone from the team in Los Angeles is without plans on the 4th of July please consider yourself invited to a pool party my girlfriend and I are throwing I'd imagine you're all sorted but I didn't want to leave a fellow Brit behind much love to you all Dom isn't that sweet isn't that nice I was wondering we know Gary's going there yeah mate it'll be round there'll be speedos you need to leave that you need to leave that fade to grow out a little bit though first guys I think so too don't be making a show of the pod look at tardiness I was thinking about it I went on he sent me an invite and everything I thought should I go for the pod do you know what though I love people like that who just go come on come along you know all those expats we all stick together we stick together expats I think I will go and I will report back for the pod.

25:33I'm actually looking forward to getting back home. Strap it up before you

25:35Abbey Clancy: whack it up though, guys. That's all I'm saying, sister.

25:41Some things that come out of your mouth, Abigail. Hello, Therapy Crouch gang. I'm six months into a new relationship and things are very much in the honeymoon phase, which is lovely, except my boyfriend is a screamer.

25:54Abbey Clancy: What's a screamer? Fucking hell. And I have a nan who lives next door and I'm convinced she's up all night with a glass to the wall. She now greets him every time we catch each other with a knowing, sleep well, did we? And a wink. Oh, no. That has aged me a decade. Have you ever had an awkward run and you'll be caught by a family member? And how on earth do you look at them in the eye afterwards? Firstly, I need to address that the boyfriend's a screamer. The boyfriend's the screamer. I thought a screamer was something else. Like a great goal. There's lots of different ways of looking at screamer.

26:27But I think, yeah, I mean, it was very noisy in the bedroom. Surely a man beating noise in the bedroom is not acceptable.

26:36Abbey Clancy: I'm not really into noise. It's unconventional. It's an ick. I'd say. Is it an ick? Well, it is for a man, I think. But why is that? Is that just years of... It's always... I don't know. I don't know. I was going to say like pornography, the woman is the more, you know, louder, more forward-facing. No, I don't think I don't think about... Louder and forward-facing? Well, like, no one watches it for the man to go... Do you know what I mean? it just doesn't it doesn't work so don't ever do that noise especially not while i'm looking at you in the face what are you what are you watching gary god knows what gary's search history is like someone check his hard drive they'd be disappointing my hard drive just full of episodes of this show it's just squeaky clean chris have a look his hard drive please

27:28Abbey Clancy: anyway swiftly moving on that was i should have to think about all that stuff but i once i once sexed your mom didn't i that was that wasn't great oh my god that's getting cool out isn't it about that before i even felt weird announcing i was pregnant because it's like admitting you'd had sex your parents like i was just so scared to do it i know what you mean it's A bit of a, you know, everyone congratulates you, but actually at its core, it's like saying, well done, you both had sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations, your sex has worked.

28:03It's quite surreal. He's a mad congratulations. That's a concept. You know, congratulations, your sex has worked. Now you've fucked your whole life up. Yeah, I think, listen, Dave, do you know Gaz had a whole episode planned today for us, but we'll do that next week, because I think just us catching up was especially nice to catch up.

28:23Abbey Clancy: Just us talking absolute drivel has suffice. It's what the people are. I've really enjoyed it. I've really, really enjoyed myself. Oh, God. You know what, with this time zone scenario, it's difficult to, we don't catch up. We don't talk anymore. Yeah. We don't talk anymore. What you're doing now is basically watching me and Ab on a Zoom.

28:48which really should have been private i hate this time difference it's just time zones are a thing of the past i think i think so we need to all just be on one one time well they tell you i went i went to a knockout game sorry abs this might bore you it was canada south africa and i went on bbc sport and it said kick off 8 p.m in the uk so i took no it's a 10 p.m so took eight hours off and that was 2 p.m so i set off a midday and i don't know what the time difference is doing but by the time I got there the first half I'd already played I don't know what it is I missed a few hundred quid as well so

29:22Abbey Clancy: you correct that was boring for me guys it was actually boring for everyone guys cheers listeners yeah that was alright babe I'm going to get into the agony abs if that's okay Devin Devin Kevin with a D it says hi therapy couch team big fan of the show I'm 14 I'm sorry a 41-year-old guy in Texas. And while I'm obviously nowhere near Pete's level as a footballer, I'm tall, thin footballer myself, and I've always felt a strange kinship there. Football is still the thing that brings me joy the most. I play every week and genuinely love the game. I enjoy more traditionally older folks' hobbies, like golf, tennis, pickleball, a tiny bit.

30:07What is pickleball? Pickleball's similar to paddle, but it's a bit like badminton.

30:12Abbey Clancy: it's like badminton and paddle mixed together oh okay okay harder it's like a shuttle cock it's like a shuttle cock the ball's like you can hit it hard and it kind of stays stays in play

30:27I don't think it's as good as paddle personally yeah paddle's fast to pace lately I've been wrestling with something I imagine a lot of former athletes or aging weekend warriors struggle with loving the game just as much as ever while increasingly feeling the reality of the physical decline. Recovery takes longer, little injuries pile up and you start noticing your body doesn't quite do what your brain still believes it can. I know Peter plays a lot of golf now and I'm curious, does he play football still at all, even casually or as he moved on? And if he has moved on, what was the transition like psychologically?

31:04Did giving up on football affect his sense of identity, joy or connection to himself? We'd love to hear Pete's thoughts on navigating ageing whilst deeply loving the sport that defines such a huge part of your life. Cheers, Devin. That's Kevin with a D. Kevin with a D. Great question, to be fair. Good question. Great question. Yeah, I think psychologically retiring from football was a difficult thing to do and it's difficult for any footballer to do. Like really, really hard. I've done it my whole life since I was literally, all I've known since I could walk was playing football.

31:32Abbey Clancy: I think it's difficult for everyone. Do you remember that midwife who wrote in? She spent her whole life delivering babies and then got ill and then couldn't do it. It's like, it's actually a traumatic thing when you can't do something that you're so passionate about anymore. Don't you think? Yeah, 100%. And the thing is, I can still do it, but I can't do it to the level that I was at before. You know, so that really frustrates me. So I've decided not to play much football anymore. I do the odd game here and there and I play around maybe with the kids or I'll play maybe a five-a-side or a legends match or something like that.

32:07But I don't do it as much now because it frustrates me, the fact that I'm not quite what I was. Yeah. You know, I can still play, but I'm not quite what I was. You've still got it. Maybe I thought you scored a hat-trick at Anfield

32:17Abbey Clancy: not too long ago. I think you're amazing still. I'm still awesome, but I'm not, you know, I'm not really, really awesome. Would you like to do like a regular weekly five-a-side or does that not interest you? Yeah, no, I love the game of football. I love being around it and stuff like that. But, you know, I'm trying other sports now and I think that's good, you know. So, you know, what's weird is like we went to the, we're out in America, babe. So we went to the Baseball Central, which is like a batting cage. Oh my God, we loved it. It was amazing. It was something different. It's something competitive.

32:50And we were just lashing the balls. It was brilliant. We all did well.

32:53Abbey Clancy: I'm just envious because I'm so shit at sport. Like I had a couple of tennis lessons and then the little boy was just laughing at me and totally not my confidence. So I didn't go back. No, don't you shit, babe. Don't give up on that. We are threatening to, you know, have a paddle tournament in our garden here with a few of the mums because there's a big paddle community out here. But you need to get into it because once you start playing paddle, we can have little mixed doubles games and things like that. Yeah, I know, I know. But yeah, to answer your question, Devin, yeah, it is tough, I think, kind of, unfortunately, what me and Ab have discussed, haven't we, babe, is like we're kind of, I think we've peaked and now unfortunately we're on the downward side of life.

33:43No. You know what you think about it? Our peak has passed. I think it's just doing that. I think it's going that way. What do you think? I think so.

33:52Abbey Clancy: No. Sports is one thing but life after sports is... Lucy and I were talking about, like we were talking about this last night. It's like, are you ever going to be as happy again as when you're like a teenager going out for the first time and all of that? No. Yeah, but you've got different things that excite you. You know, like, I don't think that is the way to look at it, babe. Like, you know, like we've got... We definitely are on the downward decline. No, but we're going to see our kids grow up, right? We're going to see, you know, there's going to be certain things. Is that as exciting as...

34:21No, absolutely not.

34:24Abbey Clancy: It's not? It's not, no, but I'm just trying to, you know, I don't want everyone to... I don't want everyone to bring everyone down, but yeah, we are fucked.

34:35Abbey Clancy: but you know when you'd be like saving up all week to get your outfit and you were getting ready and that buzz and teenagers meeting teenagers and you know your first holiday with your boyfriend all of that all like the good stuff has happened really do you know you've just mentioned all the good stuff as before you met me no no i'm talking about with you you know what i mean It's so exciting. It's all nothing to do with me. No, no. You know, I think blame all these kind of teen rom-coms that are on at the moment. Teen romance dramas that are on at the moment. You know, it's making like older women, like very nostalgic and like depressed.

35:21Is this off campus or something it's called?

35:23Abbey Clancy: It's like, it's so depressing when you're like, I'm old enough to be your mother, darling. We talk about this. Are you watching all this nonsense? because they're like me and Sophia watch all these but you know are all the boys like incredibly fit in it or something no they're not fit it's just like nostalgic they're not fit it's just like you know we all just want to go to like American unis now and stuff well that's how men have been feeling for years you're only just cashing on to it well why do you want to go same thing you do by the sounds of it okay let's move on swiftly lizzie from bristol says taylor swiftly lizzie from bristol says hi abs pink guys i've been married seven years my husband's recently decided he wants to spice things up by introducing role play into the bedroom this is fine i think like what like he wants to spice things up yeah okay so she's actually said look i'm not actually against it she doesn't let us out she's like like she's massively for it no she's not against 50 50 at this point.

36:28We've tried a few scenarios so far and it's generally been okay. Last week he wanted to try something that he was convinced no one had done before. So I was a woman who was planning home reservations and he was a builder coming to deliver the goods, as it were. That would be lovely until he genuinely, in character, gave me a quote for a loft conversion.

36:54Abbey Clancy: Imagine that at the start.

36:59Abbey Clancy: that's hysterical it was weirdly specific disturbingly detailed and by the time you'd started talking about me considering a sink fund for a suspected exam I had to call it quits what do you think did I make the right call also Abby if Peter ever tried something like that would you give it a go or shut it down immediately I love you guys from Lizzie from Bristol that's so funny I think it is phenomenal and give the full quote. Babe, she's asked the question. I thought if Peter did suggest anything like that, what would you say? I'm asking for Lizzie, obviously.

37:44Abbey Clancy: Yeah, whatever. Yeehaw. Down for it. You basically are living that role play right now. I'm going to write a dossier of various scenarios.

37:56I might just get myself a nice LAPD officers uniform.

38:04You've been a bad girl. Oh my God. Is that the time? Look at the time.

38:12Abbey Clancy: It's that time. I think it's time to go to bed feeder. I think I've gone too far. I think if you rode in on a horse with like a cowboy hat on, that'd be like hot. Okay. all right noted i'll take that yeah i'll note that down i also think you burst out laughing i wouldn't if you were dressed in a red um swimsuit running down the beach one of those i'd be extremely extremely excited okay great guys are we done here we are we are my love yeah

38:49Abbey Clancy: who said long distance relationships don't work that was all that was all lissy from bristol by the way it's nothing to do with me do you know what i'd like you to do which i think it'd be like really hot and it felt like came home after a long day and you'd like your role play was like a chef and like a cleaner stroke chef so like you cleaned all the house and you'd made me an amazing meal and like served it to me. And then you turned into a little maid and ran me a bath and took me in bed. It's just your dream day again and go in another room.

39:35Abbey Clancy: But that'd be a really good role play if you like made dinner and, you know, pretended to be some like Italian chef.

39:47we can make that happen wasn't it guys I think so alright I'll see you later

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