

21 Apr 2026 · 40m · 20 chapters

Abby and Peter Crouch (with Gaz) discuss relationship communication and boundaries (“saying no”), parenting weekend routines, sleep habits, Mother’s Day feelings, and a “dream day” date. They also tackle an advice email about a confusing long-term couple living together while one partner is pregnant with someone else (“cuck alert”).
No external guests. Hosts are Abby Clancy and Peter Crouch; Gaz is the third co-host.
Peter is too direct/unclear in messages; Abby struggles to say no. Sleep is disrupted by a calming audio app (“Chibs O’Carriker”). Mother’s Day can be painful after miscarriages/ectopic; appreciation shouldn’t be limited to one day. The “cuck alert” scenario likely isn’t healthy/fair and needs direct conversation.
Planning an Easter trip; dog “Bambi”; dream date in Mallorca with boat, paella, golf, massage, and Sardinia dinner; jacket potato “olive oil spray” mix-up; Disney film sadness; advice email about a couple still sharing a house after separation and one partner’s new pregnancy.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes.
Hear about their past trip to Dublin and their favorite non-alcoholic drinks.
“You had a little goodness zero in the fridge as well.”
Explore communication differences between Abby and Peter in their relationship.
“I just love that kind of pub, live music culture.”
Discuss the challenges of parenting and the impact of their new dog, Bambi.
“We're having a bit of a nightmare planning our Easter trip because Libby will leave her dog.”
Debate the trauma found in classic Disney movies and their suitability for children.
“And he goes to Donkey Island and there's all that young lads like having cigars and like being like kind of reckless and they all turn into donkeys and they scream for their mums like mama.”
Share experiences of disrupted sleep and relaxation techniques involving a meditation app.
“But I'm basically, so I'm drifting off to sleep, right?”
A light-hearted exchange about past football experiences and team nostalgia.
“Anyway, good night, good night, Chips O 'Carriker.”
A discussion contrasting the significance of Valentine's Day versus daily expressions of love.
“For me, every day is Mother's Day because I'm called mam.”
Exploring the challenge of balancing family activities with the desire for a tidy home.
“Our friends are on a little adult-only trip to Ibiza.”
Discussing the importance of one-on-one time with children and personal memories from childhood.
Navigating the difficulty of planning family outings that cater to different ages.
“Do you remember what you used to do as a kid?”
Reflecting on how weekends are perceived differently by parents as the kids take the spotlight.
Creating a collaborative vision of an ideal day filled with leisure and enjoyment.
“Do you want to design my perfect day then?”
Delving into the specifics of a dream day including activities and dining preferences.
“So when we get to the golf, all his friends are there.”
Abbey and Peter discuss their differing tastes and preferences in food, particularly rice and chili con carne.
“You've got to have the rice with a chilli con carne, don't you?”
The conversation shifts to the Irish delicacy known as spice bags and their popularity in takeaways.
“No, because we had spaghetti bolognese last night.”
A humorous debate ensues about the proper way to cook jacket potatoes, including microwaving and boiling.
“Do you know how to make a jacket potato?”
Abbey recounts a kitchen mishap where Adam mistakenly used a cleaning product instead of cooking oil.
“bacon sandwiches oh that's a belter when have you ever made a bacon sandwich?”
The hosts discuss a listener's email about a curious relationship dynamic where a couple remains together while one partner is expecting a child with someone else.
“who's right who is right that looks so I can't understand like a an olive oil spray that looks like more like a hairdressing water gun to me it does doesn't it I was thinking that the way you're holding it there, Pete.”
The conversation reflects on the complexities of relationships and societal norms regarding unconventional living arrangements.
“but is he sleeping with other people as well?”
The hosts share humorous insights about learning new terminology and relationship dynamics.
“cock hold how do you not know how to make a jack of a potato but you know what you're cooking touche touche what a question damn I've got no I've enjoyed that.”

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2:32I've enjoyed that part a lot about Gavs. I'll behave.
2:39Hello, and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abby Clancy. Me, Peter Crouch. And our Gaz. Hi, guys. Are you all right? I'm getting away. New man in the hot seat. New man in the hot seat. The sun is shining today, Gaz. Beautiful day. You had a little goodness zero in the fridge as well. Just sitting there. Not quite the same, is it? It is. Not quite the same. Is it good? Bloody well is. No, they're good. They're great. They're great for when you're not. They're probably one of the best non-alcoholic. Yeah, I agree. Do you reckon? Yeah. I've never tried it. Never tried it. No, it's good. And on draft, it's like really, really good.
3:10Oh, yeah. Oh, it is good, yeah. If you're, no, if you're trying to keep on the trip now. God, this time last year we were in Dublin. Were you? Yeah, when we did our Dublin trip. Was that last year ago? Or maybe two years ago. Yeah, I think that's longer than one year. Is it? We should have arranged to go to Dublin. We should have done, yeah. Was it like Pints Music pubs? Yeah. Guinness Factory. Oh, did you? The storehouse. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, it's fabulous. It's lovely there. We have a good time in Dublin, don't we? Yeah. I loved it, actually. I love the Irish. They're the best. I just love that kind of pub, live music culture.
3:45Oh, yeah. It is good. You can't beat it. They do it better than anyone. It's every Sunday, like. Yeah. why don't we have that on every Sunday you know what I mean well you do if you go to Devonshire yeah yeah shout out to the dev shout out to the dev so have you got any weekly wines for me darling I'm just trying to think I've got one guys I've got it's so annoying this one go on so when I tell Pete to do something he doesn't do it how I ask him to do it so say just like writing an email for example I like to be straight to the point and Pete will go around the M25, up the M40, up to Edinburgh and back to get to the same point as I'm doing.
4:28And I'm like, why can't you just write it word for word? Because then it's clear. Yeah, but there's clear in this rude, right? So my issue is I would say something in a manner which doesn't offend someone, but still gets the point across. Whereas you would, a very direct point, which is very good, you know hats off to you but i think sometimes it gets through to someone no for example say if you need to write a message to our friends saying we can't make the party on saturday we're gutted we'll see you soon so that's all right and peter'd be like um so we might have a babysitter but we might not and we might we might be able to come but we're not sure so we'll let you know like an hour before and i'm just like just get to the point that's like we might have a baby you even have one or you don't that's not i don't do that no but you or everything you say is so unclear you can't you have got an inability to say no unless it's to me we've discussed this before unless it's to me no we've discussed this before like people have said to me um you know what can you make this on the weekend and I'll say uh yeah I'm up for that knowing full well that I'm not going to be there I do do that and I that's a that's something that I'm dealing with that's my own thing but you find it so easy to say hello to me I don't you do I don't you do Do I?
6:01Yeah.
6:05Which is the most popular word I hear come out of you almost. I don't say no to you. Seriously, do I? I need to say no more to you. That's the problem. That's how I got in this mess. What? Saying yes to you all the time. We're having a bit of a nightmare planning our Easter trip because Libby will leave her dog. Oh, the new dog. The new dog. Yeah. so it looks like Pete's going via Paris to our holiday again another reason why saying yes you know when I could just say no no but the thing is I actually didn't give you an option with Bambi I just brought him home because I knew it would be a no but my daughter cannot be away from this puppy yeah like she doesn't even want to go to school she like loves it sits at the door waiting for her all day really?
6:54yeah oh my god Bambi a boy or a girl? he's a boy Bambi is a boy is he everyone thinks it's a girl yeah it's the name I don't know why people have said oh it's a girl then Bambi yeah but the movie Bambi Bambi's a boy really yeah he's the little prince blew my mind that that's blowing my mind yeah he's the little prince who grows up to be the big stag at the end remember you know I never made it to the end of that one of all the Disney films that one kind of lost me halfway oh really yeah it's got that tragic opener and I'm like oh that's too sad for a kid as well yeah it's traumatic have your kids seen Bambi have they watched Bambi no I don't think I don't think I've played Bambi to them because it's traumatic.
7:30So traumatic. What were they thinking? Yeah. All the Disney movies are tragic. They've got a little bit of the sadness. Like Pinocchio where he gets kidnapped and drugged. Yeah, that's a little bit. Terrifying. And he goes to Donkey Island and there's all that young lads like having cigars and like being like kind of reckless and they all turn into donkeys and they scream for their mums like mama. Because they're like presumably on drugs, aren't they? Or alcohol or something. There's a lot of stuff going on with Pinocchio. Genogenics. Yeah. Genuinely, what were Disney thinking? Mind you, I have a few drinks and Pete turns into a donkey.
8:06I'm like a donkey. Yeah, that's it. Player. He-off. She looked like one. After these teeth. Lucinda called me when you entered Charlton. Have you seen Pete online? The tongue was out. Yeah, she's got a problem with that, hasn't she? The tongue? you both have what do you mean what's the tongue no I don't know they just keep ripping me my face to be honest it's quite heartbreaking but it's all good you've got the most beautiful face you've just your tongue's got a mind of its own yeah tongue teeth face in general really I've got a I've got a weekly wine oh god I'm not prepared for this yeah my wine my wine is I've got this car map now right in the evenings so she might struggle to get to sleep or something like that I don't have this problem right so now I've got what's his name oh yeah you mentioned it last time he was like yeah basically it just it starts really nicely it's all like rain and kind of calm and then his voice hi I'm Moses Knipton whatever his name is what's his actual name okay I'm gonna get his name up now because he's an Australian guy considering I listen to him every night in bed And we always say the name.
9:26I can't remember his name. But I'm basically, so I'm drifting off to sleep, right? And then this car map will just go on full blast. Chib Zarakengi. Chib Zarakengi. This is him. What name? Bear in mind, I'm just drifting off now. And then it's like, bang, this, come. It's Chib Zarakengi. Chib Zarakengi. Tonight's meditation will help you calm your mind and settle your body so you can drift off into a deep and restful sleep. I love this voice. Turning off the mind at night can sometimes be challenging, especially when our lives are full.
10:05I understand that, right? Chips are a cookie. I'm okay, I'm okay. I don't want to hear chips. Is it like all night long, just like that? I do a 30-minute one. I do, yeah. That's, yeah, what I'm just doing. You do 10 minutes because I'll turn it off. I'm wide awake and you'll fast asleep. So bear in mind I was asleep. now I've been woke up by Chips O 'Kerrykay so then Av goes to sleep then I've reached over and turned it off but it turns itself off after 30 minutes yeah but I don't I can't sleep while Chips is on but last night last night Pete and I went to sleep went to bed watching the Capture okay the new Capture it's like a a series the first one was amazing it was um with Dua Lipa's fella okay alright it's good it's on BBC it's a BBC one it's really good I enjoy it a lot but then but we fell asleep to that and then woke up later on in the night to another series where people were on in like a holiday like you know all stuff all inclusive hotel and some gunman had just gone in and was shooting everybody the white lotus that was it no no it was called it's called shoot down it's another BBC thing yeah so it just rolled onto another show yeah so me and Pete were like We didn't know.
11:21What have we missed? I was like, fuck me, what's happened here? So we went from London sorting out this problem. So then they were on holiday and I thought, oh my God, and it was different. I was like, what's happened? What's happened here? Totally different show. You fell asleep to it, is that what you were saying? So we fell asleep to capture, woke up, this next thing was on, the shootout or something it was called. Wasn't called it. And that was traumatic. Like kids getting separated from the parents. This woman was having an affair then. he got shotted all going off so that's when I had to get chips on because I thought I'm not going to be able to sleep after that so you had to get chips on chips are a karaoke chips are a karaoke what a madhouse yeah yeah but this was only one evening there's a lot going on unbelievable yeah anything but sleeping yeah yes there's a lot going on there babe and people's like if you were going to put this on I would have watched the rest of the match well I could have done I gave her half an hour where I left the match oh yeah to listen to Chips O 'Kerry I love that name by the way it's great we've got to make that I want to know what he looks like Chips yeah we should get him on oh should we try yeah I imagine he's jacked just from the voice do you know what I mean he's Australian yeah surfer dude maybe I don't know or do you picture like an old man kind of like no he's young he'd be like a doctor won't he Can someone Google them?
12:52Chips O 'Carake There could only be one Chips O 'Carake Good luck trying to spell that bro
13:00Calming voice Chips O 'Carake Calm app Alright, I want you to get into bed And relax You've had a hard day C-H-I-B-S C-H-I-B-S O-K-E-R E-K-E Alright guys, you've had a hard day just sit back relax let me take you through to sleep I know that the bed beneath you has got you Chibs or Carriquet oh yeah do you want to see him yeah oh God oh Chibs not what I was expecting not what I was expecting at all there you go it's a bit of Chibs it's like a bloody Philbab a Philbab does he does he know Philbab he does he does how have you pulled Phil Bab out that's a goal for that move it's my generation of footballers I'm stuck in that team with like Robbie Fowler and Patrick Berger yeah yeah yeah I used to get Phil Bab here and I remember they were early early with the three at the back they brought John Scales Neil Ruddock right yeah Phil Bab at that time that 1990 sticking to Bjornaby Rob Jones that 1995 kit's out now yeah it is yeah It's been remodelled.
14:16Has it? Oh, nice. You can't get it for kids. Oh, really? Tried. Anyway. Anyway, good night, good night, Chips O 'Carriker. Let's get into the wines. Hi all, just a quick message about Mother's Day. I might be the one in a few who feels like this, but I think Mother's Day, Father's Day and Valentine's Day can all just fuck off. They're bullshit. I'm lucky now that I'm a mum. I've had three miscarriages and an ectopic. So Mother's Day was hard for me. I'm also lucky I still have a mam. A mam. But there are many out there who don't. Plus, I think it's stress to buy or do things on that day. For me, every day is Mother's Day because I'm called mam.
15:02I loved when one of my daughters has seen the new Zaflora and buy me one of the candles because they know I love it. I don't want them to buy me a Prezi because they've been told. to because of the day, just like Valentine's. I don't want my partner to buy me something just because of the day. Oh, I do. What do you think, Nicola? I disagree. Yeah. I like getting flowers and presents. On that particular day. Yeah. I would like them every day, but you're not going to do that. Well, I think what she's saying is that, you know, if they love you, they'll get you them anyway. No, I think what she's saying is you shouldn't have to just be appreciated on that day.
15:39You should be appreciated. appreciated 365 days a year and not just by material gifts, just by love and respect, I imagine. Yeah, yeah, agreed. But I do feel that anyway. But I think Mother's Day is a nice concept. I do. I think Valentine's a nice concept as well, really. It's a nice day for me and you. We really need me and you time. We really do. I think it's getting to that point. It's time. It's time. Isn't it? It's time. It's time. It's time. Our friends are on a little adult-only trip to Ibiza. Oh, nice. And the two of them just in a hotel, lovely meals, relaxing. Oh, dreamy. Dreamy. What a gift for that.
16:24Yeah. That's what I feel like as well. That's what I want. Why can't you? Well, I'll just whisk you away. Let me just have a look. I'm so good at the moment, aren't I? Let's be honest. He's so good. I'm just looking at dates. I'm going to just take you away. I'm just going to whisk you off. That's what I'm going to do. Well, that's funny because I'm going to whisk you off today with your dream day. Oh, what a lovely segue. That professional over here. I am. I am. Are you really? You know when you describe my dream date? Oh, yeah. Well, I nailed it, you mean. 10 out of 10, it was. It's time for yours.
16:55Okay, well, can I just finish these wines? Oh, go on. Okay, okay. It's from KCC. Hi, guys. I'm struggling here. What sort of things do you all do together as a family on the weekends? I have two stepchildren of 15 and 13. My babies are two and a half and 10 months. so with all different ages I find it hard to entertain everyone there's a problem that that's a tricky one and I think when the weekend comes we think we can't just stay in the house we think we have to be up out doing something taking the kids somewhere but the truth is the kids are actually happy at home you know just relaxing I don't like them in the house because I don't like the mess you don't like the mess yeah I want to be up and out because I want my house to be clean I've liked and they just trash everything I enjoy staying in now like it's the odd the odd time yeah I think if you've got great food on the go yeah a nice dog walk a lovely family film maybe the football while I'm cooking I think that's a really good day that is a pretty good day well that's a date I have planned for you that's it I'm all over that I'll be happy with that yeah with with regards to day 13 and 15 but we had that didn't we because we had the three little ones under five and then Sophia was like 12 so when you're going to like the pet and farm or yeah the soft play Sophia was like bored stiff it's how grown it yeah it is really hard we like going into London don't we with the kids yeah theatre's a good one theatre's great but 10 months old can't take a 10 month old is a blow no and two and a half they don't want to do it but when our kids were younger slightly older than that we used to love the theatre didn't we because it was fun for everyone you're not allowed in the theatre like under three or something but we used to just sneak them in because they were so tall anyway yeah like 16 just walked them in just walked the two yard in as if it was seven yeah didn't we all the time yeah we did but I think I think I think it was Kim Kardashian who does this and they do a special day with each child just on their own oh that's nice yeah you know sort of individual yeah that is a good child you know like you know doing something that they enjoy on their own so they just get you all to themselves I think is a really good thing to do.
19:11Do you remember what you used to do as a kid? Like what your parents would take you or what, you know. I feel like I spent all my weekends in Dunham for them. Do you know what I mean? Shopping for, you know, cupboards. That's exactly right. Like, didn't someone, someone said this recently. It's like when I grew up, you would just get dragged around to all the stuff that your mum and dad had to do that they couldn't fit in in the week because of work and blah, blah, blah. I understand. I remember quite often just being in Ikea. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, just, you're in there. B and Q.
19:37Yeah. carpet right do you remember that carpet world carpet yeah carpet right I used to love rolling on them carpets would you like just run through them all yeah and get lost in them yeah amazing yeah you do things that they that they want to do and it might be the odd thing I might go for a swim or something like that but my mum wasn't taking me to the farm every week or to the cinema no chance like once to bloody go ape and all that stuff it was too busy weren't they yeah and like now yeah it does feel like they've taken over yeah like hold on a minute like this is my weekend you're just in it yeah it's so true it's so true it's like we're in their weekend do you know what I mean yeah don't tell me I can't do that I know we don't even go out on the weekend as a couple ever I know we did last weekend but Sophia came with us but we don't our weekends are just dedicated to the kids solely aren't they yeah yeah it's bittersweet isn't it yeah that's great change now but yeah let's you know let's make their lives worse yeah do you agree okay do you agree right guys this feels like a great time to hear from our sponsors um and while you're there hit subscribe have you ever been stuck on a weight loss plateau trying everything and anything you can to lose that extra weight and reach peak health We've all been there, but Noom's unlocked the secret to reaching the mountaintop.
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22:37No, I've told you, we don't do holiday disagreements anymore because you just go with whatever I say. Okay, well, if we ever did happen to not see eye to eye when it came to booking a holiday, as unrealistic as that may sound, then at least we know exactly who to turn to. Absolutely. And you know what, Pete? I couldn't agree more. And the answer is, of course, Tui. Whatever sort of couple or family you are, they have the holiday to suit you. Just say, for example, one of you wanted to lie by the pool all day and for some unexplained reason, the other one wanted to get a few rounds of golf in, then they'll find you options which tick both boxes.
23:12Not only that, Tui are great at finding your holiday first. You want to tick off if you're looking to explore a new country or just do a new activity for the first time, like I like doing when I'm away. and Tui, they'll have you covered. Tui, you pick it, they sort it. Book and T's and C's apply. Atoll and Abda protected. Do you want to design my perfect day then? Yeah. I'm going to throw you the categories just like last time in like... Okay. So, location and wake up time. Where are we? What time are we waking up? Okay, so we are waking up in Mallorca in one of our favourite hotels on earth. We've missed breakfast, but you're not bothered because you're not.
23:50I was wondering if it was going to be your day or my day because you're you're not a breakfast guy I don't mind it I'll do it for you but don't fear Peter because I've got you some boiled eggs and soldiers to the room oh nice it's good I like it nice can I have it on the balcony you can have it on the balcony thanks and then we've got our own pool so you get your swim in so you do a swim swim club he loves swimming he does so then Then we are going to go on a boat for the day where we go to this incredible part of the ocean, which is crystal clear and you can snorkel while I sit and watch you from the boat drinking champagne.
24:34I love that. Every time I come to the service, I want a little wave. And a little flash. A wave and a flash. A wave and a flash. And then we will go for lunch and we'll have paella for two. Just for you. Oh, mate. just for him just for him because well on our honeymoon I don't like rice you see okay and Pete wanted paella and they wouldn't give it to him because it was for two people and Pete was like well I don't care if it's for two people I'll just I still want to order it and they were like no you can't imagine that he said no he said no I said but I'll pay for it yeah I might leave some no some too what is the deal with that that's quite common I think for that yeah yeah yeah I love this day though so then we're gonna have the most incredible lunch get off the boat go to that amazing restaurant that we love then we are gonna up in the cliff yeah up in the cliff then we are gonna go back on the boat to a different country where your favourite golf course is oh here we go and then you're gonna play golf I'm gonna be your caddy and give you cold beers and dab your brow when you're sweaty in this 30 degree heat and then we oh no and then we will go home like you're a bit tipsy now so then we'll go back to our lovely place then you'll get a massage by you?
26:05no no not by me then we'll get a massage then we'll get ready and we will go for dinner in Sardinia oh nice yeah that's a good one is this where the golf course was or is this a different place now have we moved to Sardinia no I think we can segue transporter okay I had a few dodgy travel yeah yeah yeah teleportation yeah there's a few teleportations in my it's a perfect day right yeah you can ride whatever you want yeah then we'll go for dinner on the port and then we will go home and put the do not disturb sign on our door.
26:49Bosh, look at that. Really diplomatically put. Smashed it. Well, I'd absolutely love that day. Just a few questions. Anything I would change. A few questions from me. Who's he golfing with? Who's there with him? So when we get to the golf, all his friends are there. So like Nick, Neil, James, who else? It's a four ball, so that'll have to do. Ollie. Yeah. We can have a whole day with loads of them there, can't we? Yeah, and all the girls will be together and then we'll... Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. Well, then we'll just transport to Sardinia. I've loved that. Yeah. Wow. Any other questions? I was going to say, what would you...
27:27Well, yeah, what would you give that out of 10? Oh, God, that was... That was absolutely... Nothing will change. Nothing will change? Is it another 10 out of 10? I think I would do not disturb after lunch as well. Do you?
27:42sorry that's not on the menu that's not on the menu okay so nine it's a strong nine it's a strong nine it could have been the dream day oh that's great great creativity I like that can I go can I backtrack to the rice thing what's your deal with the rice what's I don't know I don't think I've ever met anyone who doesn't like rice it's like a basic food so annoying isn't it it's kind of like it's like something you kind of have to have yeah I think there's a lot of dishes as well like all cuisines I like egg fried rice like with the Chinese that's alright then yeah But I wouldn't make them, like some people would make like chicken and rice or a piece of steak with rice and veg.
28:17I don't ever make rice as a... As like a side. I also like a chilli con carne. I should just have chilli con carne. Oh, you can't do that. I prefer it with jackpotato. No rice. You've got to have the rice with a chilli con carne, don't you? Chilli roncani. You've got to have it with that. No, I'd have it in a jackpotato. Yeah, I'd have that as well. But yeah, I think it stems from the fact that I really like rice. Oh, piss off. Why do you say this? It is, because it's like, it's become a thing where you're like, I'm not making you rice because I don't like it. You don't get the rice I like. What do you mean?
28:48I like special fried rice and you never get it. I don't buy rice, babe. No. Talk about when I order from the Chinese. Yeah, you won't get the one I like. I will get it. And you also won't get the noodles I like, the vermicelli one, because you like the other one. I do, I prefer the other one. So there you go. You can't just not get rice. I love the special fried with the char siu, the prawns, spring onion. I don't particularly like shumai's, but I get them for you. But you don't eat them? I know, but you don't have to eat the rice. No, but I would eat the rice if you got me the one I like. Let's move on, shall we?
29:22I'm hungry now. I'm hungry now. I could eat that. I fancy chilli con carne now. No, because we had spaghetti bolognese last night. We can't have that. No, I know. I know. And we only had chilli con carne the other day. You're craving it. Going back to Irish stuff, spice bags. You ever tried a spice bag? They're a delicacy. Really? No. Oh, I've got to tell you for all the Irish fans out there. Spice bag. So you get it in like their kind of takeaways, their Chinese or their pizza shops over there. It's like a bag full of like oil, chilies, five spice Chinese herbs, chips and chicken. I've taken some of the lads here for a spice bag.
29:55They shake it up and they give it to you. It's a bit like their equivalent of a kebab at the end of a night. That sounds good. That sounds unreal. I've got to get you guys on a spice bag. Do you like Donner kebabs? I'm partial, yeah. I don't mind. Yeah, I do. I love them. The odd Donner. I do like a Donner. All right. one of these weeks they give you a hangover though have you ever had a don a kebab without alcohol yeah you feel rough you do feel rough yeah you get a hangover off them yeah yeah you get a hangover off them yeah just from having them you literally do I had a don a kebab sober for lunch once oh yeah that was like I've done it a few times that's a mad one it makes you question your life doesn't it when you're doing that but I loved it it's like have you ever gone back to a club the day after when you were younger and like you see it in daylight it's never the same no and you get the sticky floors and you're like oh god I was here last night you need to go and get your coat from that place we were at the other night when you left it there I know I've left it there for ages really you left a coat yeah you know yeah I've just been there I've only to go I'm the one that happens do you want to do some agony abs got one from Claire the AI at Pete and Abby helped set an argument I had finished cleaning the kitchen as always and was going out my fella Adam was making jacket potatoes for dinner I'd just purchased I'd love one of these guys who cooks A jacket potato.
31:10Do you know how to make a jacket potato? Yes, I do. I do. I just put it in my microwave. Or I'll boil it. You don't boil a jacket potato. You don't? Can you? No. Can you not? Of course you could boil a jacket potato. How? Well, put it in some water and boil it. To do what? For what outcome? So it's hot. No. No? You can't just get a whole potato. Well, unless it's a new potato. A big potato? A little baby potato. Big one? No, that's not how you do it. And then slice it and put cheese in it. No, that's not how you make a jackpotato. Well, what about if I just put it in the microwave? You can put it in the microwave for a bit, but then you need to put loads of oil and salt and pepper on and put it in the oven.
31:53So then you get the crispy outside. Oh, the oven-baked jackpotato. What's a lot of ways of doing it? Let's get a pile out on that. How do you make yours? I swear you can boil them, no. You can boil any potato, can't you? In theory. Yeah, but you don't boil a jack of potato. Of course you can boil a potato. We've been told. We've been proven wrong. That's not the way to do a jack of potato, to boil it. Is it not? No, if you're making potato salad, you can get... I make the best potato salad, don't I? Yeah. What do I say? All I'm saying is that, you know, you're going on like, oh, I like this fella's like Gordon Ramsay.
32:28He's making a jack of potato. But I've proven my point. You don't know how to make them? I don't know. I think I could it's my I've been lucky I've not had to make a jam potato in my life you haven't made anything you can only make a daddy omelette I do make I do make certain things like yeah my omelettes are good my breakfasts are good in general breakfasts? yeah what else do you make? bacon sandwiches oh that's a belter when have you ever made a bacon sandwich? loads of times come on don't start on that that's just not true okay how do you cook bacon then no i'd grill it now but i used to fry it um but then you told me off for making such a smell in the kitchen now i i grill it yeah but um with the oven setting no no i used to top and bottom
33:26anyway this is about clear the hot air top and bottom is the wrong setting fyi No, it's full grill, full surface grill, it says on it. You need the... Yeah, that's it. Anyway, Adam was making jack of potatoes. I had just purchased an olive oil spray, knowing he'd only ring me asking where the oil was. I showed it to him and said, I'll leave it here. I told him I poured and sprayed the oil, depending on what Gordon Ramsay chose to do with his jack of potatoes. You know, he could have microwaved them or bought them. on returning and eating tea he was disappointed that his skin wasn't as crispy as he intended and asked what's the difference in the oils in the two bottles I couldn't understand about the two bottles until I went to the cupboard he'd used the counter top cleaner instead of the olive oil spray and they've actually sent us she sent a picture in and this company I want you guys to have a look at this tell me if you would mistake this for olive oil or not just look at the bottle mainly does it look like an olive oil bottle or not?
34:31I mean, look at that. No, it doesn't. Is this a cleaning? It is, yeah. So I wasn't sure if it's cleaning oil or oil, to be fair. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. So you can back up Adam. When have you ever seen oil like that? She said it's an olive oil spray. That looks like that could be olive oil spray. Look, that's the spray one. That looks like a flask to me. So this is cleaning. but he would have he must have been able to smell it when he sprayed the jackpotatoes now admittedly they look very similar I see the pictures I found it funny but he said it was a dickhead roof from me and I should apologise I replied that if he cleaned the kitchen more often he'd know the difference who's right who is right that looks so I can't understand like a an olive oil spray that looks like more like a hairdressing water gun to me it does doesn't it I was thinking that the way you're holding it there, Pete.
35:27Yeah, it looks a bit like a, you know, where you get your hair doused. Yeah. That doesn't look like a cleaning product. I understand where it's coming from. Okay. So you'd say the confusion's warranted. Yeah, but you probably wouldn't, would you? I think the confusion's warranted, to be fair, but I don't think either of those bottles look like what you'd spray a jackpotato with. No, definitely not. No, that would blow my mind for playing that. I've never sprayed olive oil on anything. I've never, yeah. I boil mine anyway, so. All comes full circle. I love that problem when you're boiling. Okay, hang on.
36:02Number three is really interesting, but it's fucking long. You can read the title of the email on the left. It's Cuck Alert Opinions World. Cuck Alert. What's Cuck Alert? Fucking hell. Are you joking? It's interesting. It's a genuine email. What's Cuck Alert? Cuck Alert. Let's find out. Cuck Alert. Why are you so laughing at it? Do you know what it means? No, no idea. We'll find out now. You know what it means. I don't no no when you find out to Peter, Abby and Gaz first off thanks for laughing my wife and I have been loving the podcast lately it's become our go to for long drives here's the situation my best mate started seeing a girl from work in their early 20s and things have moved very quickly they got engaged after about three months and soon moved in together from the outside everything seemed great but over time it started to look like quite an intense insular relationship I like them fast forward a few years after a long engagement, they eventually got married and they bought a house down in the country.
36:59Then completely out of the blue, he announced they were calling quits after 12 years together. The explanation was they'd simply grown apart and we'd better off friends. So sorry, they'd been together for 12 years? 12 years, yeah. Intense, insular relationship for 12 years. That's good. They seem to have grown apart. But here's where things get strange. Two years later, they're still living in the same house. no real moves towards separating starting new lives or even moving out the explanation is that they're still best friends swingers then own pronounced to me she started seeing someone else and is now pregnant they're still legally married still living together now she's expecting a baby with another man even more bizarrely the new guy comes to stay at the house regularly and is apparently gets on great with my best mate she has no plans to move out when the baby arrives and my friend doesn't think his life is about to change when another man's child moves into the house.
37:57Have they got kids? Needless to say, the rest of us are completely baffled. So the question is, how do you help someone see that this arrangement might not be as healthy or as fair as they think it is and that it might be time to properly move on with his life? I think he's gay. He could be gay. Do you reckon? He could be gay and just be happy with it. Like Will and Grace. Yeah. To be fair, but they've titled this email cuck alert opinions so a cuck is a cuckold it's someone who kind of enjoys like their partner dallying with other people and they're just watching from the sidelines you know the phrase the cuck chair that's what he thinks though that's what he thinks that's his scenario he might not he might not be sitting watching this he could just be like I don't love her anymore and I want her to be happy yeah do you know what I mean it might be I think he's gay I think he's gay really and he probably wants a baby or they couldn't have got pregnant so they've got they were fucking hell like come on it can't that can't happen can it yeah think about a different universe right where you guys never had kids or whatever and for whatever reason it didn't work out and one of you moved on and you all stayed in the same house I could know there's no way those fellas moved into this house while I'm here right and imagine I just said this is my I've got this and now she's pregnant and you'd be like, oh, congratulations.
39:24What are you going to call it? Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Can you imagine? It is bonkers. But your gay dad's going off. For him to be okay with it, he must be gay. But the thing is, like, 12 years is a long time to be with someone. Yeah. But if he said they are best friends and he's genuinely not, he wants her to be happy, then I think that's a quite nice scenario. It's like, we've got no attraction anymore whatsoever me? us? no no these people I'm saying if we've got no what way to find out we've got no attraction whatsoever I tried to tell you that no we imagine they didn't if he felt I don't I don't see him that way at all I want you to be happy but is he sleeping with other people as well?
40:10I don't know it's just one email getting pregnant though is like a bit I don't know if he is sleeping with other people because he's staying in the house all the time with his ex I think I think it's just a conversation it's like mate what's going on here we need to talk about this are you actually alright with this situation from the outside looking in most people wouldn't be okay with this or he could he could be infertile and love her so much that and she's desperate for a baby and he wants her to get pregnant because he loves her so much yeah but you're not having a fella living in the house you can still do that can't you you can get a donor or something i don't know of course you can don't move a feather in do you it could just be in like a three-way or whatever they're called yeah well yeah it could it could just be a kink could be the vibe could be all of the above so what's how are you calling this are you saying oh i think i think i think as a friend you need to speak to him say you're right but like this isn't a normal scenario like and i think because if he didn't like her he'd want it out the house yeah do you know what I mean so he must still like her in some capacity oh I think he still loves her yeah he just said I think they're he said they're best friends you know and they seem to be they're happy and he's happy for her but how does she know that baby's not his I think if she started seeing someone new I see what you mean yeah well there's a whole subplot now that you've just introduced here yeah oh it could be it could be absolutely chaotic it's a lot going it's a lot going on I think we need more information we need to follow this up we need to know how it goes we do we need to follow this up alright we'll chase this lead but I've never heard of clock alert clock alert did you say clock alert?
41:56like KFC's ordering thing yeah I uh yeah cock cock hold how do you not know how to make a jack of a potato but you know what you're cooking touche touche what a question damn I've got no I've enjoyed that. I've enjoyed that. I've done a lot about gas. I'll behave. It's so weird the way boys know all this weird stuff. Oh, God. Never bloody heard of it. Well, you just called it cluck alert. What's the actual term? I don't know. I don't know. I'll behave. What is it? A cuckold? Cuck. Cuck. What are you saying? C-U-C-K Cuck Cuck Yeah It sounds nice in your accent yeah Cuck That sounded Irish then didn't it Cuck alert Hmm Okay you'll see it everywhere now Stokes for folks eh Look if they're not at the end of the day if they're all happy who gives a fuck Exactly right yeah Who gives a cuck Cuck away Who gives a cuck Cuck away Toot away Alright well yeah enjoyed that again Well I've learnt something new today Gaz has learned now to make a potato and I've learned where a cook alert is we all learn on this part we all learn we're living and learning we need to follow up on these I'd like to know what's going on in that household if I'm perfectly honest this guy needs to delve deeper and fill us in with the goss and get back to us yeah please do keep us posted hope you enjoyed that we did see you soon
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On today’s episode of The Therapy Crouch, Abbey and Peter are back with their usual mix of honesty, chaos and laugh-out-loud moments as they dive into the realities of relationships and family life.
Things kick off with Abbey’s “weekly whine” as she calls out Peter’s inability to say “no”—leading to confusing messages, overcomplicated situations and a few relationship frustrations. Peter hits back, claiming he’s just trying not to offend people, sparking a relatable debate about communication styles in relationships.
We also hear about a disastrous night’s sleep thanks to Abbey’s beloved Calm app, as Peter reveals how a relaxing meditation voice actually leaves him wide awake. From there, things spiral into bedtime chaos after the pair fall asleep watching TV and wake up to a completely different (and slightly traumatic) show.
The conversation turns more heartfelt as they discuss Mother’s Day, expectations around appreciation, and whether love should be shown every day rather than saved for special occasions. Plus, they open up about the realities of parenting—juggling kids of different ages, losing their weekends, and finding ways to keep the whole family entertained.
Later in the episode, Abbey plans Peter’s ultimate dream day—from luxury holidays to golf and unrealistic travel plans—before things take a hilarious turn in the kitchen as they argue over how to properly make a jacket potato.
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00:00 Introduction
01:45 Abbey’s “Weekly Whine” – “You Can’t Say No”
04:10 Easter Trip Chaos & The New Puppy
06:40 “This Ruined My Sleep” – Calm App Disaster
08:40 Falling Asleep To TV Gone Wrong
12:15 Mother’s Day Debate – Are These Days Overrated?
14:45 Parenting Reality – Weekends Aren’t Ours
16:45 One-on-One Time With Kids
18:40 Holiday Arguments & Relationship Dynamics
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