Peter Gets DESTROYED By Pensioners! Abbey Exposes His Portugal Tennis Disaster

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2:02And I'll just come on like a seal. What? What if you came to bed tonight and did that in bed? Be aft in bed. Do you want to try it?

2:10Abbey Clancy: No, thanks. No, thank you. I can't believe you're lying to our listeners. Imagine stalking Beckham's Instagram. You're stalking him. You came up on my bed. And red onions and the sun's chewing. I'm very interested in this. Chickens.

2:30Obligado!

2:31Abbey Clancy: Hello and welcome to The Therapy Crouch with me, Abby Clancy. Me, Peter Crouch. And me, Gaz. How are you guys? Good, how are you? I'm very good. I've missed you. How the devil have you been? Good. Not so much? Good. Busy? I can sense that you're ready to party. But we are on a detox. Yeah, that was the first thing I asked this morning. I was like, what time's there? We're doing like, no drink, health as wells. Just from the weekend. Yeah, we decided that on the Monday after the weekend. Was it a lively one? Yeah, quite a lively one. But just, you know, we had a bit of fun. Then we had a tennis tournament.

3:09Then we had a few drinks after to celebrate, really. I've heard about this tennis tournament. Is it your daughter's tournament? And she won. So Sophia won. Yeah, she did win.

3:18Abbey Clancy: And then I signed up Sophia and her dad for a mixed doubles. And it was kind of roll-up tournament. It wasn't like an official tournament where, you know, it's official. It was just kind of local people who love tennis, varying levels. So Pete turned up and completely did a judge the book by the cover scenario and thought, I've got this. I'm going to take it in my stride. There was a lot of senior ladies there. So Pete was like, I can't let it balls rain on them. So I'm going to take it easy. And he got smashed. Not again. It's done it again. It was the father the other week. It's done it again.

4:02It's done it again. Is it the senior ladies? God, yeah. Fucking good they are.

4:07Abbey Clancy: Oh, my God, Pete. Consistency is key in tennis. I'm telling you that now. I was taking it easy, you know, like. He was like, I have to be respectful. They're like late 60s, early 70s or whatever. A lot of them. So Pete was like, I need to be respectful. I can't be like walloping them with balls. Yeah, of course. and uh obviously I'm doing like like a smaller serve and they're just whipping it past me I'm like hold on a minute these are good I bet I'm gonna cry I said to somebody I was like hold on a minute babe I said yeah she said I was turning it on and I was like oh my god and then it got too far we were like you only played for 20 minutes like timed we couldn't get it back and you know when they're just like they now have to play doubles like mixed doubles I mean he's coming up to the net like punching bodies some unbelievable shots like get everything back yeah so that was a real wake up call for me they'd also been playing for like 50 years well there you go yeah at the same combo of a team so they know you know in tennis there is a lot of thinking on your feet you've got to analyse the player in front of you and predict where they're going to put the ball and they had that down so they just killed you didn't they yeah I learned a valuable lesson and Sophia's learned a valuable lesson as well it's like don't ever take your foot off the gas yeah or don't ever or go lightly on people that might underestimate yeah you just never know what you're up against you know that is a great life lesson so then you were straight on the beers to drown your sorrows was it yeah basically I was absolutely fuming if I'm honest Pete was saying Pete you know Pete's excuse was no excuse I got beat he went easy but Sophia was like mum He kept double Fulton all the time.

5:55Abbey Clancy: She was like, if I'm going to do doubles again, I don't want him as a partner. But I just felt so embarrassed because... She didn't say that. I was speaking to everyone. Yeah, Pete had to decide as a child between football and tennis. He's like, epic. You know, this is where my daughter gets it from. He's just natural. He's a winner. He can't, like, ever lose. And he got absolutely spanked by a senior couple. Maybe time to hang up the racket. No, I think you've just got to challenge them to a fiver side. something more on your turf she did say look we're available for a rematch but on your terms have it your way yeah that's what I think putting on my toes oh well nice well I'm glad you're doing well yeah we're all good yeah it's good speaking of doing well Ross I spoke to him recently I think you did as well yeah yeah Ross is good and he just thanks all of our listeners for all the concerns and thoughts and the well wishes and he said it means a lot to him so a very big thank you there to everybody.

6:53That's fab. Okay, you got any wines? Or, you know, just pick one of them.

7:02Abbey Clancy: My only wine is that, you know, I don't like seeing you lose. It gives me the heck. So just don't do it again. Yeah. That's all I've got to say, really. I don't want to elaborate because I think you know. But, you know, I just... yeah yeah fair enough it's icky it's icky it's icky you've got to redeem yourself soon right when's your next tennis game well he could play me and then he'd definitely win oh my god can we we should get that do you play have you ever played i can't i want to but in the in the place where we train it's very on show and there's a lot of you know great there's a great standard there so I'm just really embarrassed yeah about doing a lesson I know what you mean it's off putting when people are like elite around you yeah you're kind of like oh god I know what you mean I know you gotta start somewhere I guess and you know my attitude is not what I would tell my kids to do so I'm kind of contradicting myself there I think I just need to bite the bullet and get in there it doesn't matter what level you are genuinely no one no one cares I think you're worried that people are gonna judge you like just get in there you gotta start somewhere have I got to start somewhere yeah yeah and you're not as bad as you think you are either you can get it over sometimes that's half the battle one in three times what about paddle how are you a paddle do you play equally as shit that'd be a nice thing to do that it's a real shame because physically I am sporty yeah you know I'm fit and I'm strong but I'm you know I just didn't do any of it as a child because my dad was like women should be going getting their hair done and going shopping and cooking in the kitchen right right so it was in my life it was very much old school very much um the boys did all the sport and the girls didn't yeah which is a shame really not what we do in our house but maybe not a paddle but maybe like a sports day vibe you two like five different challenges you know that kind of way you could do like a few different things.

9:05Easy.

9:07Abbey Clancy: I've got, oh, are you going to lie? Are you going to lie and say that? That actual joke. No. We've done it before, Nick, if you're like 20-yard head start and still blitzed you. No, you didn't. I can't believe you're lying to our listeners. You don't. Beat you before in a race. You've never beat me in a race. All right, well, we'll do it. Let's do it then. Okay, we'll do it. We'll do it on socials. Sports day, throwing, running, tennis, swimming, football. What do you want to do? All the things that you're champion at. You tell me what... You pick the five sports. Egg and spoon. Egg and spoon, I was going to say.

9:40Egg and spoon.

9:40Abbey Clancy: Egg and spoon. I'll pummel you. Right. What's that one where you throw a beanbag closest to a mark? Do you know what I mean? It's like you sort of throw... Throw a beanbag? I don't know. 1984 now. Sack race. You want a sack race? Sack race. Yes. Yeah. Okay, anything else? Throw and you'll beat me. Okay, but you can do it. Was there a hula hoop thing? Was that everything? You can keep it going? Do you remember that? The little plastic hoop. Was that ever a sports day thing? Have I just pulled out of my ass? I might have. No, I don't know. There are hula hoops in sports days. People used to do it, didn't they?

10:19It's a bit of a bad way. It's a bit of that. They're not doing that in schools anymore, are they? I haven't seen that for decades. The hoop around the midriff. Yeah. No. No people that were elite here, they could get it up here and back down there again. Back down again and stuff. Around the neck. Belly dancing, yeah. Unbelievable. What about you, Pete, mate? Any wines? Yeah, you know what? I'll put this out to the listeners, actually. Just wondering, I reckon lots of couples go through this, but diary planning? Arguments whilst diary planning? Phenomenal. I think it's like, if you want to do something yourself, then it's just, you know, met with venimosity.

11:00Abbey Clancy: Venimosity? Is that even a word? It's a great word, if it is. I hope it's a word it sounds it should be yeah and I think that shouldn't be the case animosity more that might be yeah that might be more we've got a rule in the house you know the rule Gaz every single diary entry has to go through Claire yes because what happens is if people like let's for example a golf day people just put it in the diary and then I will broach up and go well Pete you know you actually can't do that because we've got this the day before and this the day after. That's fine. That's totally fine. And Pete should say, oh, God, I didn't realise I've just put it in, but instead he goes, you can't tell me what to do.

11:40Abbey Clancy: No, I didn't say that. If I want to do a golf day, I'll do a golf day. I didn't say that, though. But because of that, I don't want to say, it's not like you can't do it, it's just like, as in you're not allowed, it's conflicting with other things. So to avoid any marital arguments. I'm sure this is my wine. Yeah, I know. Feels like you're wine, guys. To avoid any marital arguments. It would just be better if it goes in the diary entry group chat where he goes, Claire, can I do the golf day on the 5th of June, for example? And Claire will go, well, you're actually not in England that day. You're in here and it's the kid's birthday party and blah, blah, or there's something on at the school.

12:22Abbey Clancy: Because then he's not going to tell Claire to fuck off, like he tells me to fuck off. Don't say fuck off, by the way. Then we would just be a happily married couple. because Claire is the master of logistics. So this argument is so easily avoidable, and that is my point. Right. Okay, so that was my wine. Let's move on to the audience wines. My wine. My wine. Am I right or wrong? How has my wine gone from me saying a couple of sentences to you whining? My wine. Okay, all right. It was my wine. Even because I'm not. Let me put it a different way then. can you can you no can you understand Stacy can you understand where I'm coming from and see the the logic behind what I'm saying there as I've explained to you before my logic is this is I get off the phone right I ask to do a golf day right I put it in the diary so I remember it could be anything it's not I remember what that day is yeah it's not in the diary I then raise it with Av and say this is this is a golf this is potentially something i need to i can do can we do it she then says can't do it because of this this this this and this and i said well okay and that you're coming you're coming at me but i don't rather than discussing it as a couple i don't want that responsibility of saying you can't do it for what for whatever reason it is and it's it's never like a selfish reason it's only because there's something else on like mainly to do with the kids i don't want that responsibility because that would that will just avoid an argument in my opinion because if Claire just goes oh that's going to conflict with this it's going to be impossible you go oh right okay cool as I would do with you I think diaries are a nightmare I think that's the moral of the story they are the moral of the story is I think everyone has the same thing I think certainly when you're as busy as us and you've got as many kids as us there is conflict yeah quite often yeah and it's pretty much what we argue about the most yeah As you've just witnessed.

14:28No, but I get it. Yeah. On a micro scale of what you've got, me and my partner have the same diary. I think it's called Time Tree. And I'll go to events. People will be like, can you do this next week? I'm like, yeah, I'd love to. She goes, you can't. I'm like, no. And I look, I'm like, oh, I can't. I'm booked. And that's it. It's kind of weird. So already conflict arises, even in like micro levels of it. Like diary chat and just diary stuff is just always a pain in the arse, isn't it? It's a royal pain. It is when you're busy. Yes. But anyway, hi guys. Love the pod. you recently asked for a mix that men have towards women.

14:55I've just witnessed one firsthand. It's not something my partner has done and she's five feet nothing. But I've seen a girl at work go up the stairs two at a time. And I can't get my head around it. Thoughts. That was from Josh from Glasgow. Are we having that? Two at a time? Two at a time. Well, you know, when I first heard this, I thought that was like hands and knees, you know, like scrabbling up, you know, like when you do that. Oh, yeah. That would be an egg. That would be an egg. Like, that's me. Like running up with scabby like a friend. It's like an excited child.

15:31Abbey Clancy: I always run up two at a time. Do you? You do, actually. Sometimes I do three a time. I've seen you do that, yeah. It's not, I think that's... Does that give you the egg? No, it's not. I think it's sporty and athletic. You can't do two down. Why not? That one's... It's hard. It's a bit harder, yeah. Because I haven't got time to do things. I want to get up there quick. You do it to save time? Yeah? Yeah, I do that to save time as well. It just seems such like an exertion. I don't know. Surely you could just run up one by one faster and you'd do the same as going two at a time. But we're long-legged in this family.

16:05Abbey Clancy: Yeah, I think you've got long legs. I walk up two at a time. I think one's a problem for me. Really? Yeah, I think two's probably easier. Really? I've never thought about it like that. Okay. Yeah, because I'm shuffling. normally when I'm walking my steps are long so then I have to shorten them to go upstairs I've never thought of it like that long leg problems that's it, you've got to do two at a time yeah, that's fair I don't think I've ever seen you go down one at a time come to think of it I don't think I have you can't go down two at a time that one's harder than that no, because you'll break your neck yeah I might try this out later just see what it's like going down two at a time you can do it got you, okay you could do it down but you'd have to hold on.

16:49You would, wouldn't you? I've never thought of that. Would it give you the ick? No, it wouldn't give you the ick, no. Well, I see it firsthand. It doesn't, it's never given you the ick.

16:56Abbey Clancy: Do my turned out feet give you the ick? No. Turned out feet? The way I walk, like 10 to 2. It gives me ick. She walks like Steve and Gerard. Like a penguin. Steve and Gerard. Stevie G, does he do that? But he's got a bowl. He hasn't got turned out feet. He's just got like a scouse bowl. My dad's got it as well. But I do and Sophia does it as well. And if I'm in the background of someone's video and I see myself walk, I'm like, ugh. My natural walk, my natural gait is horrible. You don't give me the ick. There's nothing you do that gives me the ick. The hump, maybe, but not the ick. Very good. Okay, Stacey from Cornwall says, I'm a regular listener.

17:42Love the pod. It's actually the only pod I listen to whilst I work because I love it so much.

17:47Abbey Clancy: You know what, we got a new listener the other day. I'm sure we get a lot of new listeners regularly. But I had a message from someone who said, I've only just found your podcast and listened to it. And I can't believe I didn't even know you did it. And I've listened to about 80 of them on repeat. Oh, wow. I've just gone back to back. And she looked like a normal human being. She's normal. She didn't know we existed. Yeah, exactly. That's fucking insane. What's the matter with her? I mean, you know what I mean? she wasn't like someone who'd crawled out of a basement yeah yeah she looked completely normal oh god that's really weird I know that's what I thought

18:28I had recently I had Abby recently say that she doesn't have any lookalikes so I wanted to let you know who I think looks like Abby have you watched High Potential on Disney I think Abby looks like the main actress Caitlin Olsen similar hair tall with long legs obviously Abby as much prettier.

18:46Abbey Clancy: Oh my God, I'll take that. I just thought I'd share... Oh my God, yeah, she sent a picture. Let's see. Have a look. Is this Mary Kate and Ashley's sister? Oh, it might be. I'm not one of the Olsen twins. She's in that... She looks slightly older than you, but like from a far glance. Oh no, that's not who I'm thinking of. Fucking hell. I showed this in the office to the team and they thought that was AI, an AI version of you. They were like, oh my God, that's spot on. I was like, no, that's a real person. No, I don't think that looks like me at all. Do you not? No. Just looks like a slightly older version.

19:17I think there's something there I think it's the eyes Yeah, I think so

19:21Abbey Clancy: Like that's not my mouth There's not your mouth at all And that's not my nose Maybe a bit of the hair and eyes Well she's got a wig on there So How can you tell? Because you can't see a scalp down the part Oh okay And she's an actress So 95 % of the time they're wearing wigs Enhanced, okay What do you think, you don't agree? I think she's lovely But no, I don't She's got the same shaped features. I think it's just the light eyes and the hair colour. The hunt for the lookalike continues. The eyes and the hair. I would like to look like that, but I don't see it. Oh, well. Keep sending them in. Keep sending them in, yeah.

20:03We'll find one eventually. We'll find you a lookalike.

20:05Abbey Clancy: Robbie Savage. Okay, hi, guys. Love the show. I decided to tell my wife how good it is. She now loves the show and wants us to start watching together. how do I tell her I don't want to watch it together it's my thing not hers without hurting her feelings and possibly sleeping on the sofa oh my god yeah you know what someone said this once recently I was playing with a lad who's golfing he said my wife wants us to take up golf and he's like I just really don't want her to there's a couple of people who had that someone at golf yeah do you know like certain things you do that I don't think I don't know, you wouldn't want your partner muscling in on.

20:47Abbey Clancy: Yeah. Have you got any for me?

20:52I think golf.

20:54Abbey Clancy: I don't think you mean that, because if I said I want to take up golf. Yeah, no, I'd like you to take up golf, because if we were going on holiday together, we could play together. But I don't think you'd ever want to come around with my mates anyway and play golf. I would. Would you? Your mates are my mates anyway. I don't think you like to play golf with them. I don't want to play golf anyway but there's some there's things like box sets that I want to do on my own without Pete yeah yeah yeah do you have a guilty pleasure they're ones because you know that I'm going to just complain all the way through and the same with me I want to watch Ronaldinho's documentary now and I keep seeing it I'm going fuck I really want to watch that there's a few little football ones and sport ones Yeah, I was watching this kind of...

21:46Abbey Clancy: That Miami thing. Oh, Housewives of Miami or whatever. No, Housewives of Miami. It's these people living in Miami. It's similar. All I see is when I'm not in, when I come home, they're all just women arguing. I don't want to watch it with you because then you are like... Because I'm like seasons in. You're like, who's she? What's her name? Where's she from? Who's mates that? And I'm just like, shut up. I want to watch this on my own. at least you're asking questions that is literally what you do to me throughout the whole cinema experience and you're watching it with me so who's she then where's she come from oh you're a talker you were like a yeah she talks then she'll just look at her phone you know the light beams yeah she'll eat popcorn full hammer through the like really quiet bit I haven't I haven't watched anything worthy of my full attention recently for a while yeah we watched the Hunger Games yesterday apart from that it's amazing and then we went in on the number two as well number two's not as good as one I realised really was there three of them in the end three or four yeah it's quite a lot I love Jennifer Lawrence she's phenomenal yeah she's class isn't she that was yeah a good little series did you go to the cinema for that or was it here just here oh nice can't work good the cinema to watch an old movie they sometimes re-release do they yeah Lord of the Rings do you ever now you strike me as someone who maybe isn't into that Did you ever watch Lord of the Rings?

23:12I have watched it, but not really.

23:16Abbey Clancy: I actually do like it. I do. It's like an epic Sunday hangover film. Yeah. I think. I think so, yeah. Go in there for hours and watch it. I do like it. Yeah. I do. I'm not like one of them, you know. You wouldn't dress up like an elf. Not a ringer. Ringer? So would it go? I just made that up. How's your ring? Your ring love? No love. Kiss my ring. Not a ring lover. Kiss the ring. Isn't that what you... That's what we do on the other pod? I know. Nice. So guys, this seems like a perfect time to hear from our sponsors. And if you're liking what you're hearing, like and subscribe.

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24:53Well, maybe it's worth getting into the main segment. Have you guys ever heard of Desert Island Discs? Yes. You know the concept. Yeah, they asked me to do that. Did they? Yeah. I should do that, shouldn't I? I love that pod. It's very, lots of people love it. It's like an institution. It's a staple from like the 60s, I think. BBC.

25:08Abbey Clancy: Isn't it a podcast? It's a radio show. Probably now is a podcast as well. Yeah. But it was a radio show, I think. And it was, yeah. Is that with Edith Bowman? Edith Bowman, yeah. Edith Bowman. Lots of people ask me like, they always talk to me about it and say, oh, have you seen it? I think it was Ian Wright. It was one not long ago that everyone was talking about. So it's really good. Well, for people that don't know, the concept is you're stranded on a desert island and you can only bring like five songs with you. But we thought we'd twist it because the bank holiday is approaching, summer holidays are approaching.

25:36So we've got your desert island holidays. So things like you can take one book with you, take one album with you. What's your one duty-free pickup? That kind of thing. So we're going to go through them. We've got a bunch. We'll see how many we can get through today. It's essentially me asking you, what's your favorite this thing? But masked as desert island discs. So the first one would be, you can only pack one book for your trip. what book are you taking with you forever

26:05i'd be glad to remember my name just because it'll remind me of ab it's incredibly well written great story um and and you know i can i can just picture you i'd bring your first book out that was a

26:22Abbey Clancy: complete flop also um called peter crouch walking tall touche walking tall where the um the cover you look like deirdre barlow do you remember that yeah they spread hair sprayed your hair didn't they into like this

26:41walking tall no come on abby's book club is do we like your book lots of people go out and read

26:49Abbey Clancy: your books when you recommend them i'm just trying to think of colina hoover or even something from your childhood i don't know your favorite ever book i think i think you'd need a book that had like a significant impact on your life or oh right you're talking to me um i i don't know i liked i like dan brown's books i think i think they were good um they're interesting but yeah you can only read a book once can't you yeah so i mean like if you take it to desert island that yeah yeah i need I need one I haven't read. Number one. True. Because I'm not going to read another one. But my favourite book when I was a kid, I said it all the way through, was Twits.

27:26I loved it. Roald Dahl.

27:28Abbey Clancy: If you're like an intellectual, people re-read books because they have a poignant meaning and the more they read them, they connect with certain parts. Well, if I was on a desert island, I'd read a book about how to escape a desert island. Now he's thinking smart, yeah. That's clever. How to survive. I'd get Bear Grylls autobiography or something.

27:57That's actually not a bad shout. Yeah, it's not a bad shout. Yeah. Survivor 101. What about you, Abs? What was your favourite growing up? If his was the Twits. I loved Roald Dahl. Let's be honest, he is the best.

28:10Abbey Clancy: I like Little Women. Ooh, nice. Is that Jane Austen? Yeah, I love the film as well. and Pride and Prejudice and all of those. I'm like... Take a series of books. Old-fashioned kind of romance, a bit of heartbreak, a bit of laughter. Nice. Nothing, you know, I don't like... I started reading a book. I think it was Colleen Hoover, actually. No, it wasn't Colleen Hoover. It was a different author the other day. And it was so dark. And I thought, why the fuck am I reading this? I'm putting these horrible images in my head and the feeling of pain and putting yourself in that scenario. It's like basically this 15-year-old girl who'd been kidnapped by a tutor.

29:03Abbey Clancy: Oh, God. And she was such a lovely kid and wanted to better self so clever. Everyone loved her. It was the mum's favourite child, all of this. And then she got kidnapped and put in a basement and tortured and beat up and it was so graphic and she was screaming and crying for her mum and she died in the end. And I was like... Yeah, do you know I'm in this aisle reading that? No, and I thought she was going to... Take care of girls every time. I thought she was going to get found and rescued and she didn't. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. And I just had to put it down. That was only like two-thirds of the way in.

29:40I just thought, what am I doing? Yeah, that is heavy. Get me little...

29:45Abbey Clancy: No, it wasn't Colleen Hoover. I think it was a different author. And all these horrible things had been done to her by this horrible character, horrible human being. It was just the absolute pits. And I thought, why do I? I don't want to know these people exist. At least with little women and stuff like that, you've got a little bit of romance and... I know there is some, you know, sad-ish parts in them, but I don't want to read that crap. No, definitely shouldn't. Yeah, I think something to further your mind, I think, on a desert island. But I think for me, yeah, it was the best of my entire life.

30:23Every single one of them. I'd like to read, like, you know, like one of the... Because I never really got past the thin ones. Do you know what I mean? Like the little kids ones. Like Twitch was about as far as I want. I'd like to read these because he's got some novels. Would you read them all to the kids? Do you guys do that or are they past the book reading? We used to read now that...

30:41Abbey Clancy: But what I like when the kids read a book, And they're in the bed and you can hear them laughing and like, what the hell? And you go in like about to shout at them because you think they're messing around and they're reading a book and laughing. That's amazing. That's great, isn't it? On that rare occasion, they do that. Yeah, it's not often, but it does happen. I think it's the right book for kids. Some kids just love it naturally, don't they? And for others, you need to really nail the book so they're intrigued and want to read more and getting enjoyment out of it, which they're all, even the David Walliams books are amazing for kids.

31:18Yeah, 100%. Your next one is, you can only take one album with you. What is it? This is a really, I love this kind of thing because I'm so curious. Do you have like a, something from the old days you used to like put in?

31:31Abbey Clancy: Simply Red would be up there because I've listened to that for the past. Can't go wrong with that. The past 30 odd years, 30 years of my life. It's, what's it called? the one with the pink Fairground or no that's too recent too recent the one with money's too tight to mention you need like a greatest hits kind of vibe yeah one of those I'd take Urban Hymns Urban Hymns oh the verb yeah Joshua Tree is yeah do you like that one yeah do you yeah is that you too yeah wow both of us yeah oh that was quick that was good I would like that I think I would really like that I think Urban Hymns for me is possibly my favourite album of all time.

32:15I think Morning Glory with Oasis as well. I know a lot of people say definitely maybe, but I think I would go with Verve. Did you guys get to Wembley? Did you get to Wembley for the Oasis show? Yes. Did you? Did you go as well? Yeah, and Dublin as well. And Dublin as well. How amazing was that show? Unreal. Yeah. It did something special to the people, I think, of the UK. Yeah.

32:39Abbey Clancy: It was very unifying, wasn't it? It felt like it kind of brought everyone together. It was such an amazing experience. Yeah. It was just a piece of our history, I suppose, and our childhood. But it's nostalgic, isn't it? Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, it brought, it went like, we're here now, but it took us back to a time when it was, I think, better. No, it did. It did the same for me. Every single old person says that. I know. My dad goes, oh, the 70s, the 80s are the best time. Yeah, but there's no one that kind of encapsulated as well as Oasis is because they went away for so long, we didn't hear any of their music, do you know what I mean?

33:16Whereas, you know, you might go to the Rolling Stones, but they've still been active. Like, they were gone, and then they were back, and it took us right back to where we were 20 years ago.

33:25Abbey Clancy: Well, they're not gone if they listen to your bloody radio station, Radio X. Is that the only thing they bloody play? Yeah, we play it all the time, but... Radio X? Well, no, I'm talking about my genre. Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. God. Manic Street Preachers. Liam Gallagher beat you up a few years, you say that? Why? Class them as dad rock. Well, no, you was. I mean, the average age was, let's say, 45. That's what you say to me. When you say, I'm not listening to this dad rock again. Because you have other things which I would say are more dad rock. I wouldn't say Oasis is dad rock. They're cool.

33:55Can I just say, I'm not saying Oasis is dad rock. I'm saying, when you come into my car and I'm playing, you call it dad rock, is what I'm saying. I'm not saying Oasis are. I'm saying, when I have my music on, you quite often tell me that.

34:08Abbey Clancy: See, when I'm on my own, I go a bit more R &B. You do, yeah. Oh, yeah? Do you ever meddle with a reggaeton? Do you ever do that? Bad Bunny? Anything like that? Oh, no. No, not for you? Not for me. No. She's more like Jennifer Lopez. Or Ashanti. It would be like Ashanti. Jarl. Fat Joe. I tell you, I heard a great song the other day. It's David Beckham's son's song. Is it good? It's so good. Is it? It's so Oasis. You'd love it. Yeah, I think I heard it. I think I've heard... It's so good. ...in play. Yeah, it's so... Because I was listening to... I was just looking on their Instagram this morning, actually.

34:49This morning?

34:50Abbey Clancy: Yeah, it just came up. Just stalking them. No, no. No, I was just looking at... How many people do, babe? No, I know. Don't I stalk people and... No, I wasn't stalking them. I'm very interested in their vegetable garden because obviously we're doing all that in our new house. We've got loads of... We're growing all our own veg, and I was just like, oh those red onions look amazing blah blah blah and then they did a comp confirmation thing for their son's 21st birthday and the song was unreal and it was the son's song it's so i thought i thought it was like an oasis track but it was the son make me laugh you say those red onions look amazing yeah they're so cute you're just looking at people's red onions stalking the beckham's Instagram and red onions and the sun's tuna is what you came came out with I didn't type in Victoria Beckham or David Beckham I followed them both and they came up on my thing and I'm very interested in this chickens I am very interested in the grown-up veg like that's my own as well that's exciting I'd rather you watch that than the stuff you used to watch that would like put Do you remember you used to say if you'd wake up in the morning, doom and gloom, about the end of times, the end of days, the apocalypse?

36:05No, Gaz, it's evenings where we go. That's basically war, cruelty to animals, death, disease. Light topics to go to bed on.

36:15Abbey Clancy: I'm not doing it to myself anymore. I'd rather be in complete ignorance. It's affecting me too much. I was just saying that, you know... If everyone took the ignorant approach, there would never be any change, would there? Good point. Good point. Good point, well made. So you do have to do a bit of both. Don't have to. I know that if everyone took that thing. Yeah. I agree. I always wanted to be like Ian Fleming. He wrote the James Bond books. He basically just checked out of life, moved to the Bahamas, had cigars and whiskey every day, sat on his little private beach and just wrote about this fictional spy.

36:53I was like, what a great life that would be. Fucking hell. And he's also a billionaire. Sorry?

36:58Abbey Clancy: And he's also a billionaire. Well, yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah. That helps. We can't all do that. That's my life advice. You know, Ian Fleming, so there's a room. I recently gave a talk at Eton for the kids, which was amazing, by the way. I mean, what an experience for me to be able to go in and meet the kids there and, you know, just see the history. Incredible history. Yeah. Were they all like the 40-year-old virgin, though, the kids? That's what I thought. I thought the kids would be, I thought they'd be a bit, you know, cutting out of touch. What lovely kids. Like, I'm sure, you know, there are probably a few knocking about, but the ones I met were fantastic.

37:44Abbey Clancy: But they always get the best kids to show you around the school, don't they? Yeah, and I think maybe, you know, because they were interested in football and, like, but they gave me a tour of the school and told me the history about the wall and playing this game and they all sit on the wall. It's phenomenal. It just, it was amazing. But they told me about Ian Fleming and he went to Eton. Yeah. And he had a dormitory. And they've got a James Bond, like, room. No. Yeah. For an ex-pupil that created James Bond. Phenomenal. Yeah. And then there's one room in there, I think it dates back to, like, 1400s.

38:20That's mad, right? That was when the school was first started by one of the kings or something. And anyway, this room dates back to that. And you've got carvings in the room. It was a detention. So the kids are bored. And they've carved their names and stuff like that from 1400. Some of the desks. You're joking. Yeah.

38:40Abbey Clancy: What was the names? No, there's loads of them. All over the walls, everything. So the kids are bored just in detention. And then they still have detention there to this day. Wow. And then they've got, like, if you're getting expelled and suspended, you've got, like, a room where it's almost like a little mini courtroom like they would have back in the day. They still sit there now. If you're going to get suspended or expelled, the headmaster will sit down and you'll have all the people around and you'll basically have to plead your case why you shouldn't. Really? Preserved from the old days. Yeah, it's just a lot of history there.

39:13And it was interesting.

39:15Abbey Clancy: I love tradition and history. and there's not a lot of that now, is there? Well, no, I just think we have to maintain it, don't we? Yeah, obviously in institutions like that. Yeah, and regardless of what you think, obviously, you know, like I saw Boris Johnson's name on the wall. You had prime ministers come through there. Did Baza go there? Boris Johnson went there, yeah. Did he? And also we had, you know, Prince William and Harry. I saw they were dormitory, like where they would do it and they said, you know, all the paparazzi used to stay on this side of the road. Kind of, so they had a room that was away from that gentleman.

39:51It was really, really interesting. That is mad. Yeah, but yeah, that whole experience was really interesting because, you know...

39:58Abbey Clancy: What did you talk about? Just about my career in football and, like, you know, the tough times that you went through and determination and leadership and who were the best leaders. And it was like... But they're probably going, why are we busting our balls here and eating when you've only got an NVQ in tourism? Leisure in tourism. and I'm giving the talk good point because you have reached elite elite elite level in your career without getting hammered academically as well which is a lot of pressure so they could look at you and go well he's done this and he's got he's only got a GMVQ in leisure and tourism do you think I should have just stood up and said and then go off the rails fuck this off lads look at me fuck this off for a laugh average qualifications no i think i think it's more mindset isn't it it's more mindset it's about not giving up and trying and pushing yourself isn't it ultimately that's what well that's what my whole talk was about obviously it was a question answer and it was more like you know let's let's talk about kind of the hard things that i went through you know dealing with just kind of just distress and uh what's the word pressure yeah that kind By the way, it's so cute.

41:12Your dogs would just spoon in there. That was the cutest thing I've ever seen. Best mate.

41:16Abbey Clancy: He's the best cuddle in this one. So you've asked me rabbiting on about eating. I've realised we've only done like two or three questions here. So good. We can rattle through some, shall we? Go on then. So you can only take one factor of sun cream. What are you taking? I think you should take just like a pure, like a zinc. A zinc? Just like a total sunblock. A block. Yeah? Between 30 and 50. I don't want to be on a desert island. I know I'm taking this desert island thing really seriously, I know that, but you can't, I mean, you couldn't put oil on, could you? I'd rather, you don't put sun cream or oil on, you just go black.

41:51I do, I do put sun cream on. No, I think 30 to 50.

41:55Abbey Clancy: I think I'd need to take fake tan over SPF. Stay out of the sun. Because I just don't tan. You do, you look brown. Well, not fair. Or is this San Maritz? what's uh no no no no it's um i'm not the darkest of skinned i've got the irish skin tone the fairness oh yeah no we're putting on proper stuff there's one there that you buy about the orange one which i really like it feels like a moisturizer and it's a block yeah that one check it out that one what's that one called there's conflicting evidence isn't there thank you where are no sunscreen causes cancer wearing sunscreen causes cancer it's just like what the hell do you do i think it'd have to be natural as possible yeah that's fair i think the advice is stay out of the sun but i'm tanorexic i love it i'm like a little lizard to a lamp always want to be out there i can't help it you don't look like you're particularly dark skinned to me though no it takes forever to go dark i don't know what it is

42:57i'm backing my linens again um okay here we go what color andies have you got They're jet black. And I saw them. Today I stood in the mirror and I was like, I can see what they're on about. It looks outrageous. Were you looking at your arse? I was checking my arse out, yeah. Someone's got to. BPL.

43:12Abbey Clancy: I've never looked at my own arse in the mirror. Have you not? No. I look at your arse live and in the mirror sometimes. From all angles. Okay. I love it. I haven't got a good arse particularly. You have. Guys, you're in the airport. What's your one duty-free pick-up? What are you picking up? I hate Duty Free. Go straight past there. Never understood it. Can't get me around it. I don't give a fuck. I don't want any of this stuff when it's full price or Duty Free. You don't want a Toblerone? Join Toblerone for 20 quid? What a load of shit. It's complete nonsense. I always buy them though for my mum.

43:46Abbey Clancy: She loves them. Who said you need a Toblerone, aftershave, perfume, little things like that? What idea was it? It gets weirder as well. Little beef eaters of London just like in airports everywhere. Who's buying that? Because they're there. Oh, shit, we haven't got the kids a present. Oh, right, yeah. That's for that. That's it. Last minute scramble. Yes, a souvenir from your destination. I love a sunglasses purchase in the airport. What's good for us now is that Ab and the girls will go off shopping and I'll just take the boys somewhere else. Yeah. Sit down and have some breakfast or something.

44:22Yeah, I think so.

44:23Abbey Clancy: You're partial to it. Every time you go to the airport, you buy yourself sunglasses. So that's a lie. Yeah, sunglasses, only because I lose them. I've been known to purchase sunglasses, but duty-free is a whole concept for me. It's so annoying. Already we've checked in, you've done your bags, you've been through passport control, you've done all the shit through the machine. And then you're like, I've got to go around duty-free. I could do anything worse. Literally the worst time to shop for me. Everyone's just arsing around and blocking you off. No, fair enough. Fair enough. Sorry, babe. I had a rant there do you want I'm just thinking about after this pod I'm going to sew these cushions the sun is kind of making them split is it?

45:10Abbey Clancy: so I'm going to sew them while you're nice messing around on the old Peter Crouch pod right we'll do three more and then we'll get into some agony abs to wrap so what's the one card game that you're allowed to play? so think of Desert Island Holidays a pack of cards what's your favourite what's your favourite card game I quite like 21. Yeah. Blackjack, Ponsoon. Yeah. 21. Classic. Yeah, it's a classic game. Hearts is a good game. What's that? Gin Rummy. Oh, Gin Rummy. It's class Gin Rummy. Is that with coins? No. No, Gin Rummy's like a... What's it? Five or seven cards. Five or seven, yeah. Yeah.

45:50Abbey Clancy: Is that higher or lower thing? No. You have to make like a set, like two, three, four, five. Like a run or... Yeah. You've got four of a kind. Solitaire? Solitaire is a singular game. Yeah. But good if you were stuck on an island, you're right. I used to play that on the PC when I was young. Remember that, did you? Solitaire on the PC, yeah. Did you? No, poker. Poker. Poker by yourself. But you need a gang. You'd need a whole gang, wouldn't you? Just a solitary gang of poker. You win every time. Oh, look at that hand. Great hand, all in. Um, okay. What's the... This is probably good for you guys as parents.

46:30Or maybe actually you don't go in the pool, do you? But one game you play in the pool? Well, we got this game that we like... I think my favourite of all times is you get the little ball and you skim it. Catch. Skim and a catch. Ooh, like a pebble dash. Do you remember me and Jason did that for hours? Yeah. It was here or... It was another house, wasn't it? Oh, great game, that. The kids love to float. The floaties. You know, just jumping around on those.

46:53Abbey Clancy: There's not going to be a pool in a desert? No, but this is holidays. So this could be like your one holiday, basically. There's a few technical issues. That's a good point, though. I think the kids love the shark game when I play that with them. I've turned into a seal now as well, which is a good one, on the floaty. So I'll be the shark for a little bit, but then they're like, can we do the seal? And the seal's when they're on the float, and I'll just come on like a seal.

47:22I love it. And they fall off. And that doesn't give you the ick? when you see him offering around?

47:28Abbey Clancy: No, it doesn't because my children are happy and laughing. That's so cute. I can see how it would give you an ink pretending to be a seal. I'm not really looking at you though when you're doing that. I'm looking at the kids laughing, do you know what I mean? That's cute. It's not icky. What if he came to bed tonight and did that in bed? If he aft in bed. No. Do you want to try it? No, thank you. Okay, last. It's like the in-betweeners, isn't it? You know, when he's got no arms Oh, his arms don't work. And when he's trying to have sex. What? Do you not remember any of these? He doesn't use his arms.

48:06Yeah, he's like rigid as a board. Yeah. Have you not seen that bit? Yeah, I have. Oh, fucking funny. Okay, last one. It's one for the Gen Zers. What's the one gadget you're bringing with you? Not phone. Can't be phone. Because obviously we just have a phone. What would you take? Well, you could bring a Kindle. and then that would completely fuck your first question off that book. Yeah. So if we just take that out now and I'll just bring a Kindle. Okay, fair play. Great answer. Are you big into your tech? Are you a big Gizmo's gadgets girl?

48:42Abbey Clancy: Not at all. No? No. I think I would be the least. I don't even use TV remotes. Never mind. I'm the least gadget person I've ever met, I think. Does not float my boat. Really? That's fair play. Like even my iPhone, I'll use it for WhatsApp and calls and that's it. Really? I don't know how it does all these like fancy things or you could make folders and stuff. Yeah. I tell you, is Gadgety like Rochelle Humes? She does all like the special like all, you know, like she can take a picture on something and then upload it to her phone and then it's in folders and all of that stuff. Oh, you're just married to Marvin Hume.

49:23Sorry, I was just Googling.

49:24Abbey Clancy: Yeah, I can't. No, it's not me. Not for you. Random question. Have you ever played a game, like a Game Boy or anything like that? Never. Never? Never. I had a Game Boy, Game Gear. Did you? I have never in my entire life been on the Xbox or PlayStation. I've never even held a control and done it, even as a child. This blows my mind. No. Yeah. I mean, fair play. I mean, if it's not what you're into. Maybe because it was still in that realm of that's for boys. I wonder how many girls do that compared to the amount of boys that do it it's still very heavily on the boys I don't know because you've got all them bloody fucking gamers people now haven't you doing mad stuff I always remember maybe I can tell this when I was a little kid of like five we were trying to find their parents Game Boy we went into the parents bedroom opened the drawer giant dildo ran around with it I think it's more disturbing that the parents play the Game Boy dildos totally fine dildos totally fine you expect it but the game boy same boy saldo serial killer great stuff all right shall we get to some agony abs hi p avangaz my girlfriend and i are going on holiday this year and our couple of friends i've known the lad my whole life and we're best mates but his missus is fairly recent has only been on the scene for about seven months.

50:50She's 10 years older than him. He's 23 and she's 33. And while there's nothing wrong with that, she has a lot of money issues in her life due to poor management of her finances in her youth. And as a result, he now pays for everything. He doesn't mind splashing out on her, but what started to become apparent is that she doesn't seem remotely grateful for it. She's almost the opposite, super demanding and bossy over it. My partner and I found a hotel that we think would be suitable for everyone. He's happy with it, but she's not. She thinks we need something classier that she wouldn't be seen dead in the options we've suggested.

51:27She'd like a five star. The issue is she comes to the table with nothing but problems and offers zero solutions. We'd be more interested if she shared an option she was happy with, but she doesn't. Basically myself and my girlfriend and my mate are paying for it, but she's the loudest voice disrupting the whole thing. Should she even get a say in the first place? What do you think? Love the pod. Brian from Essex.

51:49Abbey Clancy: I think that's a tough one there. He's obviously looking out for his friend. He can sense something's dodgy going on. Maybe she's a bit of a gold digger. Or, you know. Well, I think he's paying for things. As far as one to stay in a five-star hotel, not wrong with that, in my opinion. that's what I like wouldn't we all yeah so you know I am a bit funny but that's just me and maybe it's wrong but no no not at all well I think everyone would like to stay in a five star hotel but if you're offering no money if you're offering not to pay for it and you're calling the shots like that's that's a bit of a and I think sometimes on the in those scenarios I think you have to go to the majority it's like if you go on a girl's trip or whatever, or a lad's trip, you have to be fair about the price point that suits everybody.

52:46Yeah.

52:47Abbey Clancy: So coming up with... I'm also saying, you know, because obviously the husband or boyfriend is happy to do that. So, you know, coming at her with, well, you're not even paying, so you've got no say in it whatsoever, is going to probably piss both of them off, really, because if he is happy to pay for it, I think I have a word with the boyfriend and say, like your missus is calling shots and she's not even putting her hand in her pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're entitled to say that now. I think that's fair. I think that's sound advice. It's a tricky one, that one, isn't it? Because they're clearly all best mates.

53:22It's awkward, isn't it, when you've got a mate but don't really rate their partner that much.

53:28Abbey Clancy: That's such a problem. Isn't it? And you do a couple's holiday. And everyone has it. I don't think you can do a couple's holiday in that scenario. that's a fucking ball like that isn't it yeah the thing is you're mates with them and you're not you know yeah it's tricky and quite often that partner takes your mate away yeah and you're like that's pissing you off as well do you know what I mean so you're never going to like them yeah it's tricky that isn't it but I think that's sage advice yeah maybe pull him to the side and have a word I think that's pretty good advice Daniel from Colchester says why is my dog mugging me off hi Cardi P the Clancy and Cuban pimp himself.

54:07Huge fella, Pod. I'll cut to the chase. Every time my girlfriend comes over, my puppy Springer wants absolutely nothing to do with me. Those two are thick as thieves. And now he won't even eat the food I put down for him. I spent so much time with this fella. Walking, cuddles, everything. But when she's there, he wants nothing to do with me. I guess my question is, why am I getting mugged off to buy my dog?

54:31Abbey Clancy: I think it's a sign that the girlfriend should move in. Ooh. Go on, Abs. I think I know what's happened here. Dogs know good people. Have you ever seen a dog? Sometimes it's just wary of someone. Yes. Normally a bad person. So if the dog likes the girlfriend, she's a keeper. That's what I think. Also, I think if the girlfriend wants to move in, she's probably coming around with some sausages. Or do you know what I mean? She's probably coming around like, I've got a dog on the side. I know that he's going to probably ask me to marry him. That's a good idea. I reckon so. There's a little seal of like a cheese block in your pocket.

55:10Do dogs like cheese? Do they come and lick it? I think they do, yeah. We just have that around you at all times. Do you don't lick it?

55:15Abbey Clancy: Do you eat it? Oh, do they? Bite it. They're going for a bite. Yeah. If you have one in your pocket, they're coming over. If I'm like Labradors are the world's worst because they'll do anything for food. I've got biscuits in my pocket. I've got like 10 Labradors around me in the park. Yeah. The dog whisperer. Black dog to-do little. It's not that hard to achieve affection from a dog. if I've got a sausage in my pocket, like literally, if a serial killer walked around. Chipolata. Oh, Chipolata. You know if you walked out, right, and a serial killer had a sausage in his pocket, Geoffrey's gone. I know he's gone.

55:50He's still just going to walk behind.

55:51Abbey Clancy: Maybe given robbers, robbers tactics here. Well, hold on. I don't think it's a secret that I preach like sausages. Oh, no. who doesn't like sausages? Who doesn't? I don't go wild for one, but I do like them. Don't like wild boar sausages, I know that. Oh, well. Great stuff. Okay, well, that was the podcast. The dog seems to have loved it. We've put the dogs to death. They're fast asleep. I think they're just listening. Listening. Soaking it all in. They have loved it, look. But yeah, that was that. We'll be home pretty soon, but live and direct from Portugal. Yeah, over and out. Good to see you.

56:35Abbey Clancy: Cheers. Cheerio.

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