Stag Do Confessions, Relationship Boundaries and Abbey’s House Obsession!

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2:38Abbey Clancy: Turns out you're a bit of a perp, guys, aren't you? Oh, pretty Afe. See how dark his glasses are, by the way. Oh, eww, eww. If someone who's not your wife or girlfriend does something really well for you, you say, oh, you're such a babe. Is that allowed? I don't think normal people say that, guys. She's done me again. We all know you look fantastic. Us, you men are just walking around, confident. Bag of absolute s***. In your A-line boxes and what I mean. Going to golf. Oh, look at that. Obligado. Just before we get into things here, you know, Abby's literally frothing at the beaver.

3:16Abbey Clancy: over pinterest i'm being titillated by uh pinterest pinterest imagine me that's excited guys guys guys go on drapes i have got my brand new house well it's an old house but it's the house of my dreams for the past 15 years we've been looking for this property and we've got it and i'm decorating it and i cannot cope i cannot do anything else i can't think of anything else I'm just totally and utterly obsessed you know what's like she's been she's been doing this house up in her own mind for the last 15 years I reckon so now she's actually doing it there's a real excitement there's a real spring in the step it's palpable she's a slave to the Pinterest yeah so you're just all over Pinterest at the moment and I have to say like it is reasonably exciting Pinterest I think it genuinely Your algorithm's so different to mine.

4:15Abbey Clancy: Yours is like bars and man caves. Oh, is it? And mine's just like marble, soft fernish ends. Drapes, bone. Bone and stone. Bone and stone, baby. Hi, little one. Yeah, well, all good. Have you guys been anyway? You been all right since we last spoke? Very good. Been fantastic, yeah. Busy, busy. You've been good? Been great. You've been good, Cassie? I've been good. I remember last time we spoke, we spoke about this like curmudgeon in Portugal. And then you told me off camera recently. What's a curmudgeon? Someone who's just a bit arsey. Right. And this person isn't quite arsey that you told me about.

4:53But you went and did something recently. I went to, I did an insurance gig. Shout out to Bieber, my insurance homies. My homies. And they, listen, they were great. But we, I went there and I did like a speaking thing for them. We did a men's mental health talk. I did a young broker's talk. And I did a big auditorium full of people who wanted to turn up, who were at this insurance gig. And it was good. It was great. And I ended up sitting at the front of this auditorium. And people were funneling in, coming to see me. And it was, thank God, it was a good turnout. It was really good. And anyway, there was a group that sat behind me.

5:33There was a group that sat behind me. And one of the ladies was late. And she came in. And they said, where's, you know, say, Dave? and she said, oh, yeah, Dave was going to come, and then he found out it's Peter Crouch. He's not fussed on Peter Crouch at all, so he swerved it. Don't really mind, I'm sitting right in front of him.

5:51Abbey Clancy: Oh, my God. I said, what's Dave's problem? What's Dave's problem? That is terrible. She said, oh, my God, I'm mortified. She said, I'm so sorry. I just, I died there. You're sitting there. I said, where's the problem? Just out of interest. She said, he's Canadian. What's that got to do with it? What's that got to do with it? I don't know. King Canada and football is, you know, they're not mad on football. I don't think it's particularly interesting for them. So you didn't take a personally thing. Oh, no, I thought it was hilarious. So you think it's just about the football, it's not you as a person, because he might just find you highly irritating.

6:28Abbey Clancy: It might have nothing to do with the football connection. Exactly. No, it doesn't bother me in the slightest that, you know, even if he feels that way, I think it's actually hilarious. you know that he does feel that way and the fact that she said it right in front of me without knowing it was amazing but sometimes when i look at like the mail online comments which is not often but it'll be like oh these two again go to an opening of an envelope and all of that and like they're so irritating and not funny i know it's like you and i are the biggest hermits on earth aren't we bad so that's brilliant and it it cracks me up when you get those hilarious little comments like god they're a pair of knobs haven't they I saw one the other day I saw one the other day I think it was the other day I'm sure someone said um Christ so try hard no Jesus

7:24try hard try hard it's a bad one

7:27Abbey Clancy: that is hysterical but anyway listen you can't please everyone You know, there's people who are going to think I'm a twat. Thankfully, most of the time, I think people seem to like us. But only twats think you're a twat. That's because you love me. That's your queen. That's biased. No, but if people don't like you, there's got to be something wrong with them. I don't know. I don't think that's the case. I appreciate you saying that. But the people who don't like you, we don't like them. Let's think about this. Let's just visualise. and I reckon we're visualising the same people here who we don't like.

8:03Someone who wouldn't like me.

8:05Abbey Clancy: No, someone who we know doesn't like us, but we don't like them. So it doesn't matter. Do you think that goes hand in hand? If you find out someone doesn't like you, you instantly dislike them. No, because I think it's a mutual thing. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I think it is mutual. But do you think there's people out there like go, I wish they liked me, but they think I'm a c***? Do you know what I mean? Because I think they're great. Do you think there's not much of that, is what I'm saying. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? No, there isn't. There's not much of that. The only reason you like someone is if you think they like you.

8:35Abbey Clancy: No, that's not true. No, but it isn't. I don't like people to be liked. No, but... I think the people you... No, you miss... No, no, but I think the people you gravitate towards are kind of like-minded people. Yeah. Like, our circle are morally correct. They're nice people. They're good fun. They're up for a laugh. Yeah. You know, and it's kind of the birds of a feather flock together thing. the people who don't like us are not good people no but i do think i reckon over the course of my career over the course of my life i think there are like certain people where i go wow they are so interesting intelligent clever but they're gonna think that i'm a bit of a twat because i'm not on their level right do you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah so yeah i get that so i would be like they're disgusting so i go god that's so interesting i'd love to hear more of that but then I've got nothing to offer them in that bracket.

9:32They're too hard to hear me.

9:33Abbey Clancy: But look at our friends like Caroline and John. Like Caroline is probably one of the most intelligent people on the planet I've ever met, as is John. Liberty Shore, again, one of the most highly intelligent. Highly intelligent. Martin Waller from Andrew Marlon. I'm not putting us down saying that, by the way. One of the most intelligent people on air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these are elite, elite intelligence. and they love us. So we don't have to come back. We talked about the Russian Revolution once and I, about Anastasia. And I was like, oh, John, because John's in the music industry. And I was like, oh, John, didn't you used to manage her?

10:09Abbey Clancy: And he's like, no, not Anastasia, the pop star, darling. Anastasia from the Russian Revolution. I was like. Do you want me to tell you exactly what happened? She said they were talking about Anastasia or something, the Russian Revolution. And I went, I'm out of love. I was like, oh, I love her. I love her. I didn't know you managed her, John.

10:30Abbey Clancy: But that's going back to the point of you don't have to be. But we are clever in our own ways. No, listen, I'm not putting us down. I'm not saying we're not intelligent. My point is most of our, look at the doctors, Dr. Sean and Lee. you know everyone lucinda james everyone who are our friends of some higher higher form of intelligence if you say that but they're intelligent in their fields you know what i mean like like you know if my field was ancient history i'd be more intelligent than you because i know about ancient history but you you know she they don't know 80s 90s footballers from brighton and hove albion

11:14oh my god your knowledge of them footballers by the way you were like rain man yesterday it's my favorite people have never heard of yeah you know they're ingrained in my brain i do think it's weird people who have an opinion of you because you guys have football chat banter relationship advice it's all good vibes you're not like selling arms you're not do you know what i mean taking people's taxes hiking them up you're just doing very like kind of just general and more lovely things. Yeah, it's light, hard, fun and same. I don't know with taxes if I was in power. What's good about, I think, this podcast, as a medium anyway, is that you don't have to listen.

11:48Do you know what I mean? It's not like we're not forcing you to pay something. You know, it's out there. And if you want to get it, you can. And that's because we're not intelligent.

12:00Abbey Clancy: Because if we did have a bit of nose between us, Pete, we would be in charge of these fuckers to listen to us. we'd be bloody filthy rich by now honestly I think Ricky Gervais did that he made it a pound of pod back in the day pound of pod and they reeked in yeah absolutely you know what listen it's what it is different times it's what it is I just think and here we are giving this gold out for free this is top quality this is top quality advice laughter entertainment it's peace and love live life love that's it amen sister but to round off your story so you got on the stage oh yeah so we got on the stage so basically back to the insurance team.

12:35She's obviously gone to me. Dave doesn't fancy it. So I've gone on stage and they passed the microphone around the auditorium. Can we, you know, do you want to ask a question? And I said, before we start, I've got a question for this lady down here. What is Dave's problem? I explained the situation and said, what is Dave's problem? And her answer was he was Canadian. That was her answer. Yeah.

12:57Abbey Clancy: But we've got Canadian friends. Riley's Canadian. She loves you. Yeah, yeah. I just don't think Dave's met me, you know. I think he judged a book by its cover. And that's fine. So, I mean, we do it. So, Dave, if you're listening, you've really offended my husband and we want a written apology. Yeah, Dave. Wanker.

13:20Do you guys have any wines for each other? I love that word, wanker.

13:23Abbey Clancy: So good. Thank you. It's good. Really sums it all up, doesn't it? Have you got a wine for me? No, I haven't, actually. John, should we go scot-free today? Yeah, I think we're shining, aren't we? Yeah. Shining. Maybe if you showed me half as much interest as you do Pinterest. Pinterest, if you'd like. Do you know what? Pinterest. But the thing is, once this house is done, which in my head it's nearly done. You'll need a new project. You're going to get all my attention. You can be my new project. What, are you going to spoil me? Yeah. You're going to treat me like you do, you know, the walls. The drapes.

14:08Abbey Clancy: Yeah, exactly. The drapes. Wow, that sounds exciting. Okay, thanks. Well, well, well. Audience lines, please. Hi, guys. Me and the girlfriend were on a night out recently. At some point in the night, we had a photo taken where she jokingly flashed her wonderful breasticles to cam whilst I covered them. The photo, which I haven't attached, came out hilarious and we were showing people all night having a right laugh of it. The next day, people were inevitably asking if we had any photos from the other night to share, which I obliged and sent the breasticle one, along with others, which then caused my girlfriend to go into full meltdown.

14:41I've been well and truly dog-housed, even though I feel I haven't done anything wrong.

14:44Abbey Clancy: Girlfriend? Is it a girlfriend girlfriend? It's his girlfriend, yeah. Sorry, I thought it was two girls? No, a guy and his girlfriend. It's a fella and his girlfriend. Yeah. He's been dog-housed over it. And I continue to stand my ground firm. However, her point is that people briefly on a night out is a world away from having it sent around the group chat. Was I right to almost free the nip? I obviously wouldn't have sent a thing too revealing anyway, as it's my own girlfriend. And now I'm feeling like the one who's getting mugged off. This is interesting. This is very interesting. How do you feel if I sent, but I've covered them with my hands, your boobs around, I don't know, a mutual group?

15:28Yeah. So it was a birthday party. Big bath. Bath? Bash. A big bath. He's got baps on the brain. You were on a big bath. He was hoping I was going to do one.

15:39Make sure you put it on that group, yeah? The podcast group. Pod squad. Yeah.

15:45Abbey Clancy: What's a bat? No, bash, bash. I mean, they just got all confused. I got all flustered. Baps. Thinking about freeing nips. I don't want to know about your bashing. Thank you very much. You got a little bastard there. Yeah.

16:01Abbey Clancy: turns out you're a bit of a perv oh pretty ave see how dark his glasses are by the way

16:12wow

16:14Abbey Clancy: I don't know I don't think I'd be too bothered but I'm not prudish I say free the nip free the nip around the group chat like around your mates but he feels he's getting mugged off she's gone like obviously into full meltdown I just don't think you'd do that, though. Well, I wouldn't send you to... But, you know, there are, you know, some risque pictures of you modelling and things like that, you know, that are readily available. Risque. They are, they're slightly risque. I mean, I feel like they may have been freed at times. But, you know, I'm proud of you on her pause. Thank you. Thank you very much.

16:49Moving on.

16:50Abbey Clancy: I think she just needs to grow up. You had a laugh, you had a bit of fun, it's funny. Get over it. Move on. Try playing. And he sounds like he wouldn't send them if he wasn't incredibly proud of them. But they're covered anyway. Maybe she fancies another guy out the group and doesn't want him to say it. She's probably like you. She's probably a little bit like her. Oh, God, you know, I look terrible in that one. You know, when we all know you look fantastic. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, you do say that a lot. Like girls do in general, don't they? Even Bambi's saying, Dad, what are you talking about?

17:28No, I think there's a thing with lads. They always think, you know, the girls look amazing and they come down, oh, God, I look terrible today. What? Kills me. Absolutely kills me, yeah. And it's just, I don't know, is it reassurance?

17:40Abbey Clancy: You men are just walking around confident. Yeah, bag of sheep. Confident as... Bag of absolute shit. I've like, catch myself in the mirror. Fuck me. Unreal. I'd fuck me. That'll do. Yeah. in your a-line boxes and what have you yeah a little problem going to golf oh oh yeah look at that

18:07okay we'll move on shall we this is okay hey clans meister general cardiop and gaz i have a

18:13Abbey Clancy: nick for you all and i hope it triggers you as much as it does me i was a plus one date at a guy I was seeing friends' wedding when the groom was walking down the aisle. My date stuck out his hand for a high five and the groom ignored it. I was so embarrassed the whole night. To this day, when I'm out with my friends, we always offer high fives and no one takes them. It's legacy lips on. It's the ultimate high. Oh, my God. It's the ultimate custard. Imagine being on a date early doors and you've gone... You've got the air face at the mouth. phone was up and then go oh fuck what'd you do like you tap it yeah what would you do and those things are normally filmed aren't they walking down the aisle so it's just some guy that is shocking mind you guys there was one on the podcast i can't believe you've remembered it's phenomenal do you know who was it the love islanders oh fucking brilliant so yeah the agent came with them, right?

19:14The agent. And I watched Gaz after and he's gone, he's gone, oh, great to see. And she's ignored him. So then he's like that.

19:21Abbey Clancy: No, you went in for a hug, didn't you? No, it was a hug, wasn't it? I went for the hug, yeah. So we went like that. She turned away and hugged someone else. Then he kept hugging. He went again and she did it again. Then he went, and then he turned around and he saw me and Chris just absolutely howling, howling. And then he gave up and he just said, how do you recover from that? as well because a hug is so expressive as well it's like you commit to it don't you yeah massive it's such a massive hug it's so confusing the old hug do you are you going in tight or are you shake hug this is two kisses one that's worse because i normally do a hug with a kiss and then you get like trapped in someone's armpit and then you go to i just don't know where we are i just really i really don't like it that's why i actually i think the way around it That's why I loved COVID.

20:08Abbey Clancy: The way... I didn't mean that. Obviously, that was a terrible time for everyone. Lots of people suffered a lot. But there was a thing with COVID where you're like, you all right? Stay there. Do you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't want to hug people. I don't mind hugging, but the kissing... I like hugging. I like hugging and kissing people. And I think you should just dominate the hug. Well, that's what I do do. Because I'm normally... I'm so on it. That's what we're doing. You know what I mean? Because you've got to be really proactive. You've just fully backtracked. I don't want to hug.

20:38Abbey Clancy: I don't want to touch people. Yeah, I dominate the hug. No, I do because if you don't, if you're timid, you get stuck in no man's land and that's fucking awkward. It gives me the itch when you call people babe because you don't know the names. That's a cold babe. You do? Oh, yeah, but that's like mate and babe. What would you say to a girl then? You're like, hi, babe. I don't know a name. He doesn't know a name. Yeah, but that's what you say, mate, right? I think it's kind of friendly though, yeah. I'm like, who the fuck are you calling, babe? What would I say? Can you give me another way of saying to a girl?

21:05Darling's still bad though, isn't it? Is it? Same, same babe. If someone who's not your wife or girlfriend does something really well for you, you say, oh, you're such a babe. Is that allowed? Is that okay? If people's like, oh, thanks, you're such a babe. Is that okay?

21:16Abbey Clancy: I don't think normal people say that, guys. Sorry. No offence. She's done me again. Yeah.

21:27So if I did you...

21:32Abbey Clancy: that's very 40 year old virgin have you i say it all the time yeah if someone's like oh i've just i've moved the car for you you're gonna get a ticket i'll be like oh thank you you're such a babe do you know what i mean do you say that chris no no you'd say what alleged what a legend to a lad yeah to a lad what alleged to a girl what babe and that seems all right. I've got my rules. I'm sticking to him. You own it, brother. Thank you. You own it. Thank you, my queen. But if you don't want people to get the ick with you, just stop it now. 40-year-old virgin. It is very 40-year-old virgin, have you?

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23:12Right, it's June. And judging by why we've been flying out to Portugal and so I've been touring for a hell of a lot of stag-endos going on. And I thought we'd get into those at the moment because you're leaving me.

23:24Abbey Clancy: I'm not leaving you. You're going in there? I don't want to. This is a selfless act for my sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm just taking it all on board. You know, I am going to hit her with 10 golf trips next year to destinations you haven't even heard of. Vanuatu. Like the last one you went on? Vanuatu, yeah. That was a cracking golf trip, that one. Don't I know it? And there's going to be a lot more of that. But yeah, I'm going to miss you so bad. No, I am. The thing is, you know, I'm nervous to go, so don't be giving me all that. I haven't given you anything. I haven't said a word. I've got some questions for you here.

24:02Abbey Clancy: The reverse psychology is no good either. What are you doing? What do you mean reverse psychology? I'm not bothered if you go. No, I'm not saying not bothered if you go. I am bothered. Of course I am. You know your schedule for when I'm gone. The kids have got an aquathlon. Jack's got a party. A aquathlon? Sophia's got a tennis tournament. So. You just wait is what I'm saying, right? Don't give me all this I'm looking after the kids and all that while you're out gallivanting this and that. You just wait. I'll hit you right back, sweetheart. You've done well, by all accounts. What about coordinating everyone?

24:35How difficult has that been? Coordinating.

24:36Abbey Clancy: The girls are quite good, to be honest. Are they? Yeah. There's been a lot of polls. Go polls are my new favourite thing now. Polls? Because it's just so easy. Who's in? Careful, babe. What? What do you mean? Carry on. I'm being filthy. Polls? Not polls. Is a poll a different thing? No. Anyway, because it's just so easy. Who's in, who's out? It's much better, yeah. You in for this or out for this? Yeah. Yeah. And even like, what's your clothes size? What size do you want in this? Small, medium, large? Poll. Yeah, yeah. Do you want to go to this restaurant? Yeah, no. Done. Yeah, it's good on a WhatsApp group, isn't it?

25:14Anyone fancy this? Or the dates even? Yeah. You know, 18th, 20th, 22nd. Yeah. Although I play five-a-side every week, and it's like, are you in this week, out this week? And some people go like in, in, in, in, we get 10. So you're like perfect, locked in, 10. And then on the day it says nine. So someone's obviously outed themselves. Done a sneaky. Sneaky out. So I'm like, it's not that bulletproof as a concept. Oh, that's shit, is it? Yeah, isn't it? You're always running for ringers. Okay, how hard has it been to activity plan? Or have you enjoyed doing the activity planning?

25:42Abbey Clancy: I've enjoyed doing the activity planning. Obviously we've got to do the, you know, the standard stuff. It's been okay, but I have said a couple of times, come on, I need some help with some decisions because... Yeah. Yeah, the decision-making on those cut strips, definitely. You do feel under a lot of pressure. The thought of, like, trying to organise... Like, if I was to organise one of the lad's bags for his stag do, can you imagine a stitch-up that would be? Oh, God. That would just be, I'm going to ruin his life. Absolutely ruin your life. Yeah, each and every day, every moment of every day.

26:15If I had to pick my mate's pants, no pants. Maybe a diaper, do you know what I mean? Yeah, or a thong. Or a thong, yeah, there you go. Give him a pair of knickers. one pair for a week absolute stitch up disgusting yeah also like there was like one of my flight over here I was on this budget airline flying over and obviously this stag and hindus and stuff and there was one guy and he had a he was dressed as an air hostess and I could see his mates at the front telling the actual air hostess and the steward that he has to serve with them like round and they were just like no it's not allowed it's not allowed I think to see them like going through this whole process of like yeah he's gonna have to serve eventually they just let him I think he came and served me they were dying for him to serve me oh yeah what did you do did you play along yeah did you I said thanks so much you look very pretty in your outfit Pete if you had a mate now who wanted to take you on a stag do what kind of is like the ideal stag what's the ideal one?

27:21Compared to like when you're 18, right? And it's all Zanty, Cos, Mag, whatever. One for me now. Yeah, what would it be? Bed by midnight? No, it's definitely a better midnight. I'm like, I'd definitely be drinking. Fucking joking, aren't you? Bed by midnight. But I would, I would definitely, I'm not up for a nightclub. I'd go like, I'd want to do something like, I would do an activity. Like I think golf's the perfect activity. Everyone would have to be golf minded. Basically my golf trips are, we drink throughout the day.

27:51Abbey Clancy: So you're admitting that now? You're admitting your golf trips are like stag do's. Did we all witness that? No, no, no. I want to make, what I'm saying is I'm not, I don't want to go on stag do's much anymore because it's too powerful. Like all you're doing is drinking. Whereas with golf, at least you're doing something. You're having a laugh. You have to drink at the end of golf. Then you might go out for dinner and then we'd retire to someone's house. that is my ideal scenario now. I think that's how most lads feel over like 30. Well, I saw someone on it way back from here once and he was on his own and I said, what have you been up to?

28:28And he said, I've been on a stag day for two days and I just hated every second. You know, like one of those where they are fun and I do love them. I'm not going to like, you know, say, but it's hardcore, isn't it now? When you're a certain age, you've done your time, haven't you?

28:46Abbey Clancy: My dad's on a stag do now. Is he? Where is he? In Malta. Malta? With John. John's there too. Did John go? Yeah. Nice. They just got back today. Oh, he's gone wild. John said they've been in bed for 10 o 'clock every night and they've just been searching Malta for a pound of pint bar. Yeah, that's the vibe though. That sounds more appealing to me. Definitely. You know, like, I'd like to go and have a pound a pint and talk about football. That actually sounds all right, doesn't it? Sounds like a really good day out for me. Yeah. My mate Phil from Birmingham came here recently, maybe a couple of weeks ago for a stag.

29:25And at the end he was like, it's just fucking shit, he's knitting. And I was like, what? He was like, Elberfuerra is just like, go, go, go, go till like 4am. Everyone's just trying to like try on with everyone in the bars and stuff. And he was like, mate, I'm dead. I'm dead by the end of one day. Let those free. I've never been there. Elberfuerra?

29:40Abbey Clancy: No. Really? Well, you must. Sounds fabulous, darling. You really must. Nice, right. Should we get some acne abs then, darling? Hey, guys. I was hoping you could help me get my head around my dickhead fella's recent behaviour that has made stag dick. Dickhead fella. So I can continue to royally bollock him, but now with the backup of the Clance and Cardi P. Oh, you might have my... You might have me, babe, but probably not the hobby. I'll try my best to be as brief as possible, but basically is going to wait to Barca for the weekend with his mates who are normally a pretty relaxed and chilled group, as far as boys go anyway.

30:18Abbey Clancy: And he'd given me a rough idea of the plans they'd be getting up to. Go-kart and jet ski and bar crawls. I'm not naive. I have my suspicions that there was every chance that some of the singletons out of the group would probably try and get the lads down to a strip club as it's just typical sad men behaviour. I trust my boyfriend and just tried to put this to the back of my mind. So picture this. Three days later, I walked in, Dickhead one and Dickhead two and three, who had kindly said they could stay at ours due to the late flight. He hadn't even bothered to give me the heads up on this, by the way.

30:51Abbey Clancy: They look like three bags of boiled shite and they were still very clearly pissed, all of which is sickness inducing, but not unforgivable. What I'm struggling to forgive is how three of them then start going into explicit detail on the strip club that they ended up in on night one. how they had such a great time and they went back for more on night two then detailing all the sort of detail of what goes on in these places. I went to bed fuming and expected a grovelling apology the next day. Dick had one since doubled down on his story saying, one, I should be happy that you didn't try and hide anything from me and he was actually the best behaved one as he didn't even get a private dance.

31:30I just can't... What the fuck is he doing? I was actually really well behaved, so yeah.

31:36Abbey Clancy: I just... Didn't even get a private dance. I just can't fathom how he thinks that this would ever have gone down well and now I feel like he's trying to gaslight me into thinking he's actually really open and honest and trustworthy. Anyway, rant over and I must go as I'm off to the book Magic Mike for me and the girls. Thanks.

31:57That's Lou from Scarborough. Wow, okay. Well, you know, what is he doing?

32:05He's a weird vibe. It's a weird vibe. the strip club vibe. Yeah, it's never going to go that well, is it? No. I don't think anyone really is into it, really. Apart from maybe the dancers themselves. I think they're... Yeah.

32:23Abbey Clancy: Why have you got that smirk on your face? What do you mean? What? I think that is complete gaslighting, saying, oh, he's open and honest about it, and all his friends are going, and he was the best behaved, which means he was the worst. Do you reckon? Yeah. Do you reckon? And I just think, treat people how you would like to be treated. Yeah. And there's no excuse for anything in between. If you know that would hurt someone's feelings, just don't do it. For what? It's not worth it. And then if you want to start chip, chip, chip, chip, chipping away at trust. Chips, chips, chips. Chips, I was thinking that.

32:57Abbey Clancy: Then you go ahead because that one decision, which is a decision, by the way, it's a decision. You're not getting a gun held to your head. Yeah. could change things forever. So that's a little bit of food for thought to anyone out there who's tempted to make the wrong decision. Fair play, sage advice. Sage advice. I think we need to change the strip clubbers like the lads stag do thing of choice to something else. Because if it gets the lads in trouble, I don't even think lads really enjoy it all that much. It never goes down well, doesn't it? It's got to be like an equivalent crazy activity that just isn't so stressful.

33:37to all parties.

33:38Abbey Clancy: Yeah. Yeah. Write in, if you have any... Yeah. Let's recreate the stag do from the ground up. Mm-hmm. I think. Woke nonsense.

33:52Hi, Abby, Pete and Gaz. Gave birth to my beautiful little girl in January. Bit of a change of pace, isn't it?

33:57Abbey Clancy: Oh. Emergency C-section. I've been on top of the world. My baby's thriving and I'm loving every moment. However, my partner of eight years decided to leave me. What? Fuck. as he thinks my mum is poison. He doesn't like her coming around to help me with the baby and moans if she brings us round meals. I've explained how much I need my mum postpartum, especially after my C-section. And while he's at work, it's nice for me to have company and help. He said he wants to be spontaneous and have time for himself. It's all very backwards as we have just started a family. I'm devastated, but I need to be strong for my baby.

34:32Do you have any early tips to get me through those baby days? and could you also tell if he's a knob from Jess?

34:38Abbey Clancy: I think that sounds like good riddance. It's a bad rubbish. I think it's completely, utterly selfish behaviour. He shouldn't even be thinking about himself when he's had a brand new baby, to be quite honest, in my opinion. You know, it's a gift, it's a miracle and if that's, unfortunately, the fact that her mum's there, that is not the reason why he's left. He's also said he wants to be spontaneous. Yeah, he's left because he is a fool. He's a child and he's spineless. And he should just fuck off, in my opinion. Grow up here. No, I think... Who does that? I agree. I mean, you've chosen to have a baby, right?

35:20And then when it arrives and things are a little bit tough at first, to get on your toes and get off and turn your back on both of them is cowardly.

35:30Abbey Clancy: You can't take that back because even if he does come back and go, do you know what, I freaked out. I thought, God, I've got this newborn baby. I don't know what to do. I'm not ready. He's still put his emotions first. And one thing about being a parent, you are not first anymore. Your baby and your family are. And the sad part of that is he'll have ruined that special experience for her. and instead of her just enjoying a baby, she's got this added stress of that. And, you know, if they don't end up together, you know, they might not, but that timing is appalling, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, that's not nice.

36:14I hope you're okay, Jess.

36:16Abbey Clancy: Yeah, we need to call him a knob. Call him a knob. Annie is a knob. Annie's a knob. Yeah, well, that was a sad, sad note to end on those. like an abs but i think she needs to stay strong enjoy your baby because he will come back he will realize he's made a mistake but yet sending air loads of love but um well said june june we know what's happening this month don't we it's a good month we've got the hendu we've got the world cup coming up which is going to be very very exciting it's coming i'm very excited about this for buzzing for this one what do you think of england's chances are pedro i think we've got a sniff um i I don't like talking about it.

36:56I don't like saying those words that Gaz is just there. I just think that...

37:01Abbey Clancy: What words? I can't mention it. I think we've got... We have a real chance. What other teams are in it? Wow. Favourites. Pick your number here. Spain, France, Portugal. Good side. Cape Verde. Haiti. Yeah. Cape Verde. Do you mean the good teams? Yeah. Cape Verde. Cape Verde. Panama. As in Cape Verde. Yeah, there's some bad ones. We had this chat because Ireland missed out. Northern Ireland missed out. Wales missed out. Because it's really competitive in Europe. It's had Italy on there. What? But Cape Verde are. But it might be nice. Ireland's not in. Ireland didn't make it. What about Scotland?

37:39Abbey Clancy: Scotland are in. Scotland are in. Brazil's group. Oh no, Wales? No, they just missed out as well. Close as well. Just in the playoffs. What's always nice is when the Scottish fans go and travel and see the games, like 50 % of the country goes. so Scotland's half empty for the duration of the tournament I think logistically it's going to be a nightmare the USA and Mexico and Canada it's going to be great but so far like think of the fans you know just just a flight to America on a normal day is astronomical yeah so they're going to whack the prices up tenfold they have it's been doing the rounds it's kind of that kind of competitive American culture the train companies have like hiked their prices up because you need to get a train it's not just America Yeah, they do it everywhere.

38:24Abbey Clancy: When my dad went to Milan, do you remember? Liverpool Champions League final or whatever it was. And the flights are usually like 100 quid and they were like five grand. They do it everywhere. Oh, yeah, it's bad, isn't it? Yeah, it is what it is. But it's going to be a great World Cup. It always is. I think it'll be amazing. And listen, guys, as you know, that Peter Crouch podcast is going to be right in the heart of the action. Yes, it is. Is this an exclusive? Maybe. Come on, mate. We're going to blow the bloody doors off. No, we're looking forward to it. Yeah, we'll be there. Good people are going to be out there.

39:02Guests, antics, football chat. Should be good, mate. That's going to be unbelievable. Yeah. I'm excited. Absolute dream. So look forward to that. I'll see you when you get back. Abs, can we not tempt you out for some therapy in the US?

39:17Abbey Clancy: I don't know. no I think I will go you know it's just a bit tricky with the kids being in school and stuff but yeah I will we can make it work we'll make it work it'd be great to have you out there absolutely unbelievable alright well listen it's coming home yes get it out come on don't say it please but listen enjoy enjoy your June stick with us throughout we'll be all the way through and check out that Peter Groucher podcast as well because it's going to be good it's going to be good

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