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4 Sep 2025 · 38m · 14 chapters

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When The Butterflies FADE… Does Long Term Love Lose It’s “Early Days” Excitement?

In short

This episode of Ask Us Anything mixes relationship talk, listener advice, and football/family debates. It opens with sponsors (Olive & June nail system; ZocDoc for finding/book doctors/dentists; Arizona Home Insurance). Guests/hosts: Abby Cancey (co-host), Peter Crouch (co-host), and Ross (co-host).

Key claims

early “butterflies” excitement is hard to replicate long-term, but love can shift into security, safety, and feeling confident; humour and honesty (plus eye-rolls) help love work.

Notable examples

a listener argues kids (ages 2–3) at matches shouldn’t be on iPads, while another defends limited iPad time to keep kids entertained and respect other fans’ time; hosts say 2–3 is usually too young but make exceptions for special first games. Another listener seeks career/breakup guidance after retiring from sports and moving back home. Guests also recommend Liverpool nightlife spots (Ball Street, Lark Lane, Slater/Seel Street).

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Chapters

0:00

Episode Discussion

“Hi, who here loves when their nails are perfectly done?”
14:01

Planning a Night Out in Liverpool

The hosts discuss recommendations for a fun night out in Liverpool.

“I think it might have been the same year as you, which made me laugh.”
17:07

Philosophical Love Insights

A listener's question prompts a deep discussion about the nature of love.

17:56

The Essence of Love Dynamics

The hosts reflect on how love influences personal growth and dynamics in relationships.

“You know, I could never get carried away with myself.”
21:36

The Reality of Early Relationship Feelings

The hosts debate the differences between early relationship excitement and the long-term dynamic.

“But the way they talk, the men, they're like, I can't breathe if I ever see her again do men feel like that?”
23:27

Navigating Parenthood and Football Culture

A listener shares their experience with kids at football matches and seeks the hosts' opinions.

“walks into a room does your stomach drop but no offense pedro but does your stomach drop a Buzzfire is really...”
26:32

Debating Kids at Matches

The hosts discuss the appropriateness of bringing young children to football matches.

28:00

Debating Kids at Football Games

The hosts discuss the appropriateness of bringing young children to football games and the implications of using devices during matches.

“And she's watching the iPad while the matches game.”
29:50

Career Change Reflections

A listener shares their thoughts on changing careers after 27 years, prompting a discussion about taking risks and regrets.

“It was life-changing, but sometimes not for the best.”
31:59

Advice on Changing Careers

The hosts provide advice on how to approach a career change and the importance of trying new things.

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33:12

Hair Care Journey

Abby shares her hair care journey, discussing the challenges and treatments she has undergone to restore her hair health.

35:44

Preparing for Two Babies

A listener asks for advice on coping with having two babies close in age, leading to a discussion about experiences and challenges.

“And what would you say about kind of like, obviously if she's heavily pregnant, she might not feel as like active or presence with the newborn.”
39:24

Experience with Multiple Children

The hosts reflect on their personal experiences of raising children with small age gaps and the dynamics within the family.

“Okay, I've got a quick one here, babe, right?”
42:01

Casual Conversation and Curtain Troubles

A light-hearted discussion about everyday inconveniences and pet-related issues.

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2:42You know, I'd get beat up, definitely. but i'd have a go i'd have a go well spare tickets no trophy cabinet and a new stadium and she's watching the ipad while the matches game she stinks of everything you're the prick ask me anything hello and welcome to ask us anything with me abby cansey me peter crouch hello guys how are we good how are you very well very very well glad to be back how was Oasis you were getting geared up last time we spoke for that Oasis was phenomenal it was just the best like me and Sophia flew to Ireland on our own yeah Pete met us there and we had a day in Ireland with Scott's mum Scott's mum took us out for um lunch obviously they're from Dublin and then we went to a few Irish bars Scott's friend's owns and they were all up singing and Shallow came out did you go to the ones we went to the store?

3:45Shallow was out before I even arrived yeah before the gig yeah and then we went out after as well didn't we it was brilliant but it was so funny because just as we got to the stadium we were all outside waiting to go in and Pete walked in it was like perfect timing go away yeah it was class and it was such a good his mum, their mum was there wasn't he for the Dublin one? yeah that was her first gig that she saw I think did they give her a shout out or anything? yeah yeah it was just phenomenal Liam's voice phenomenal Noel's was phenomenal Richard Ashcroft but it just bring it brought back so much memories from when like John was in the band you know just going to gigs and we had the most amazing seats like we were in this like special area so the view was just perfect and we brought Sophia with us because you know since Sophia was born Pete would always play her Oasis song so she knows all the words yeah so it was just it was just mega to experience that with her I used to trap them in the bath and play Oasis to them so they just drilled them and they were like dad change it and I was like no no you need to learn they will be back one day it was a long game paid off though it was paid off yeah yeah it was just exceptional we had the best time everyone was just on such good form oh that's great it was great seeing in Dublin yeah it was it was a good one to go to just a good good city isn't it good people good memories good vibes great vibe did you get down to Cassidy's in the storyteller or not this time yeah you did Sophia was a bit like you know what are these songs mum you know all the Irish tunes which we just love and she was like why aren't they playing like Taylor got the wolf tones going on instead it was just amazing and just a special memory to have with Sophia because you know with the little ones it's normally kind of all about them so to take her away from them and do something special with her.

5:39It was amazing. Yeah, it was good, yeah. Didn't stop dancing all night. I've seen Pete Rockin' his booker hat as well. Some pictures. It's just got to be done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm a right twat because I put a bucket out of one. No, I don't. You do. You say, I'm some fancy dress, Pete. It's a bit. I don't wear a bucket out in any other walk of life, but to an Oasis gig. I feel like a Fezzy and an Oasis gig, you're the large, you're the pass. It's just a chance. I like a book out. I always wear them. And holidays are. Some nice ones, aren't you? You are. Anyway, should we get into it? We're hoping to go back to see them in September.

6:19Oh, go away. My son, children. Oh, okay, okay. So you can let your hair down a bit. All right, should we get into the Oscars or anything? I think so. Have you not been to any of the aces? No, not yet. I'm hanging on for the most of you two. Fucking three times.

6:36they might be back next year

6:44they'll definitely bring out like some sort of you know song on Amazon they'll be like the fucking Eagles you turn it right up you'll be in your front room you'll be perfect Ross you'll love it come on we'll put the Sonos on for you we'll all want to sleep in that little room we'll have it just like you there put that soundbar on babe give Ross the full experience get your bucket out on if you can you'll have to get him a ticket we'll get you a ticket I'm only messing kind of alright ask his other things Abby, Pete and Ross I've never written into a podcast before but you've become a regular part of my week and bring me so much joy that I thought why not just write in I need some advice from afar as I'm too ashamed to speak to my family and friends about how I'm feeling I've recently become a retired sports person I've broken up with someone who I was with for a year and a half, but I've never told any of my family and friends as we knew it would probably not work out long term due to varying reasons and her eventually wanting to move back to where she's from.

7:44We decided to end it, but now she's moved straight back to her ex within a month. And I have no idea what I want to do job-wise and I've had to move back in with my parents mid-30s. Not ideal. Basically, you could say my life is falling apart. I'm always the happy jokey person which I still am externally but inside I'm taking myself to my room to cry I'm extremely lonely after being used used to being around a team all the time and I lack any sort of direction with what's next as well as navigating a breakup with someone I still love any advice would be appreciated love the pod please keep me a non oh that is sad good message yeah it is a good message that retiring from obviously a sports person in my case of football that is hard that is hard and I think if you've got no one like I was lucky enough to have a good support network around me I've only ever done it and then I stopped and you're like oh no it's a huge part of your life that's one thing and then to break up with someone as well at the same time yeah it just feels like everything's coming on top of him at that precise moment yeah but there is there will be light yeah it is common for a lot of football it's like fall into depression and stuff you know just because even the fact that the institutionalized you know they have the food cooked for them that this that they you know every day is like the same same with people in the military as well yeah yeah i i think just finding something that you're interested in or maybe like going to coaching or i don't know what sport he was he was at you know helping others um but like a breakup is is very tricky especially if you love them and also there's no shame in moving back in you know you're going through going through a bit a change you know you get back there save a bit of money up whatever and try and try and get yourself back back on the your opinions live with the family forever don't think there's anything wrong with me staying with your parents do you know what I mean I wouldn't be ashamed of that at all and I think also if you the girl that you was with has moved in with an ex a month later you'd be you're better off a doctor well or a bit of them could have been look at it this way it could have been worse yeah you could have ended up you know being with her or whatever and then it ended very messy 100 % no ties you're with your mum yeah fucking teeth on every night fling out get me there get me home oh real yeah I think first he needs to work on him get his career on track find out what it is he's interested in maybe take some courses you can do online ones but if you're really struggling you could even speak to better help yeah you know because obviously we're not trained you know we're just giving people advice on what our opinion and you know how we'd deal with these particular situations but yeah he could he could speak to someone there but yeah i think start healing himself and then don't worry about anyone else don't worry about finding love find another girl once he sorts himself out that will all come almost like a reset isn't it you've got a chance now to kind of reset reinvent yeah and like smash it go out there and it's it's it's a new beginning you know that chapter's closed you know you're not yeah you're backing with your mum and dad but you've got the chance to kind of start again yeah you can look at it from a moment I agree and there's nothing wrong with licking your wounds for a little bit you know feeling sorry for yourself you can but you're allowed to feel shit sometimes because life can be a bit shit so embrace it and then like you said dust yourself off crack on post some dog shit through your ex's quick piss in the moisturiser Bob's your uncle I need your pants

11:24i'll make you feel better and then just go back and start on you again reinvent reconnect yeah so guys before we get into the rest of the podcast you're going to be hearing from our sponsors we're going to make a quick cup of tea and remember if you're liking what you're listening to share it with all your friends and hit that red button sexy bum Hi, who here loves when their nails are perfectly done? Me, I'm Sarah Gibson Tuttle, and I started Olive in June because let's be real. We all deserve to have gorgeous nails, but who wants to spend a fortune or half their day at the salon? And that's why I created the Manny System, so you can have that salon perfect manicure right at home.

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13:51All right. Hello, Abby. Pete and Ross, your podcast is genuinely my favorite podcast. Although I never usually write in, I thought I'd make an exception this time. Ross, little side note. I also went to university in Sheffield. I think it might have been the same year as you, which made me laugh. when you mentioned it on the podcast. I'm turning 30 this December, and to celebrate, I'm heading to Liverpool with the girls. Do you know her? I replied to her, and it turns out we were in the same year, but different courses, so I didn't know her. Sarah. Didn't know her. The minute she said, I was heading to Liverpool with the girls, I knew you wouldn't know her.

14:28Why? No. Oh, I don't get it. I have been a couple of times when I was younger, but this time I would love your advice where would you recommend for a great vibe in Liverpool somewhere for a lovely dinner to start the night then on to a fun place to go afterwards thanks so much I look forward to hearing your suggestions and I look forward to the episodes every Tuesday and Thursday all the best Sarah well I'm way out the loop with anywhere to go in Liverpool you know I haven't lived there for 20 years Salthouse Tapas Tapas is nice for this grand Salthouse Tapas it's near Liverpool one Ball Street always good restaurants on Ball Street well Ball Street when I was there it was a great place it's a fabulous place to go out when I went to watch you in the Legends match we went into that New Liverpool one yeah and there's so many restaurants it was buzzing it was great yeah I quite like Lark Lane as well Lark Lane yeah but it's a little bit out of the centre Lark Lane isn't it they'll probably want to be around the site I imagine for the weekend is Ball Street still good yeah there's so many multicultural restaurants on there as well Yeah, it's kind of like Moroccan, Lebanese, Vietnamese, whatever you want.

15:37That San Carlo is still a good place to eat as well in Liverpool, I think. It's nice there, isn't it? It's probably a bit old for her. A bit posh, yeah. That's like a bit more like celebration meal, isn't it? My Jewish just wanted somewhere nice. I'm saying she wanted somewhere nice. That's a nice place to eat, isn't it? I'm sure there's a million more restaurants. And then Slater Street for the night out as well, would you say? You know, like where Salt Dog Slims is. Where'd you go dancing? Yeah, Hebe's. Is Hebe's still going? I don't know. Oh, you still love it in there? Hebe Jebe's. Lager Is Constant Square Constant Square Constant Square Oh yeah Are you going slightly No You need to get your training wheels on Before you go to Constant Square Still a good time to be had down there I'll see you in Camille Hey don't knock it I don't know I think it's a bit rough Constant Square Yeah I would say Slater Is it Slater Street It is isn't it Or Seal Street No sorry not Slater Street Seal Street I used to get the sunbeds there Yeah There's loads of good places around there Don't do back it yeah well like I say I think you know I think we're a little bit out of touch there the great thing about Liverpool is you can ask locals and they'll tell you where to go yeah it's always a great night what about the Alma de Cuba do they still have that yeah Madre as well in the docks that's meant to be good that's now where that circus was we used to have a little cracking old Hilton bar as well there alright thank God no I didn't go to I didn't know about circus yeah so we are a bit out of the loop but I'm certain you'll have a good time oh my god guaranteed she'll have a great time we should have a night out in Liverpool soon yeah we should or the weirrell

17:14moving on alright hi Abby and Crouchy love the pod it's rare to find something that makes you laugh and actually think about relationships at the same time you two are proof that love works best when there's humour honesty and the odd eye roll just like that just like that here's a question for you do we love people for who they truly are or for the version of ourselves that we become when we're with them that's good question because sometimes it feels like love isn't just about the other person it's about how they bring out the best in us abby you make peter sharper and funnier just by being there and peter you give abby the space to sparkle but let's face it she'd do that anyway so what do you think is love about the person or the chemistry that transforms both of you keep up the laughs and wisdom it's a joy listening in at best Dave from Derbyshire Dave from Derbyshire is having a philosophical moment I think he fancies that I mean yeah and that and that as well well I think that's what love is isn't it someone who makes you want to love them and also gives you the feeling of being loved and able to and let you be who you are i definitely think it's a little bit of both isn't it like you love the characteristics that they've got but also you love the characteristics that they bring out if you're around someone who you love and they're making you happy and they're making you laugh that's surely going to create a better version of you well i suppose it's that feeling as well like being around them there's like you know safety like fun can LP you wouldn't even pick up a praying mantis no but you know well maybe that's a bad example but it's security and safety in other ways yeah when I'm talking about security I'm talking about like you just want them there you know you know I'd get beat up definitely but I'd have a go yeah I'd have a go I'd have a swing so would I but I know what I'm trying to say here is that there is definitely like it is important how they make you feel you know about yourself is what I'm saying yeah you know I feel like I can take on the world when you're with me yeah I know because I pump your head full of shit every day I'm too build you up build you up I'm fucking great to you I roll Yeah, but also, but also she's very quick, as you tell from this podcast, to knock me right back down.

19:54No, I'm joking. You know, I could never get carried away with myself. It makes me feel good. Chinless, lipless wonder. Fletch. Dweeb. Who you talking to? Chinless, lipless wonder. Oh my God, you could say a beautiful... That voice of that man, boom. Yeah, yeah. You don't really do that anymore? Do I not? Since you sorted your allergies out? Oh, that's good, isn't it? Because it was a nasally... Well, it's proved that it's medical. No, I think it makes me feel good making the people around me feel good. You know, like even with your kids, you want them to be confident and self-sufficient and believe in themselves.

20:31And that's all about how you make them feel, isn't it? Yeah, I agree. He has literally nailed it here though when he said, you two of love works best when there's humour, honesty and the odd eye roll. I think in every sentence between us, there's a bit of fume, a bit of honesty and indefinite eye roll. From both sides. Yeah. Yeah. But that reading those books though, where the people are infatuated, even hearing from the man, I don't know if these like, these books are made to like mess with people's women's heads or whatever, because they describe the man and the guy's always gorgeous, but they don't describe the girl.

21:13Okay. So they wouldn't, so it's like, you know, he's tall, blonde, blue eyes, golden skin, incredible body. And the girl, they'll never say her eye colour or really a hair colour. So you can just put yourself in that position. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Is it Colleen Hoover? Yeah. She'll know the demographic of her listeners, right? Readers. Sorry, readers, yeah. But the way they talk, the men, they're like, I can't breathe if I ever see her again do men feel like that? fuck no no? whoa yeah it can feel like that I can't breathe if I ever see her again I've got to say I've never said that I just love the way she looks smells the way she moves her lips the way she does this like I can't think of anything else that's consumed me I've never heard a man say that if I'm honest I've never heard a man say that no certainly not to another man no but you do miss people when you're not with them for sure you're pining for people and then like you do notice the smell if you haven't seen someone for a couple of weeks and then you see them again it's like oh I've missed your smell but I wouldn't go like I'm pining because I need to smell it again or whatever crack on same with you as if you'd go if I went away I'm pining for a smell no not your smell sense of touch I can't breathe I don't see Pedro I do feel like that I feel a bit weird without him that's literally it no I do feel like that you would never say I can't well I know for a fact when a girl first meets a boy and it's all like that exciting new thing all you do is think about them and like picturing them and love them and want to be near them want to kiss them whatever do boys not feel them?

22:57yeah I'd say early days definitely yeah well you just said the same thing it's like it's an early in the relationship yeah you're very oh I can't wait to see her

23:10excited butterflies butterflies yeah loads of that but not now no you're not this is you're you're putting words in my mouth have you got it now yeah no you haven't go away i have come on bullshit when you when he walks into a room does your stomach drop but no offense pedro but does your stomach drop a Buzzfire is really... I'm taking it.

23:35Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, maybe if you go on a date night or something and he's got his tux on, maybe he comes walking down the stairs and there's, you know, his whistle. Then Sam, but not every day. It does, actually. Go away. Honestly, it does. It does. Well, I have a nice feeling when I see you quite often. But it's not every day, is it? Great. He's honest. Honest truth in a little eye roll. no but I like like I'll wake up in the morning and go oh you're beautiful look at you I'm definitely not beautiful in the morning there's always all day you know what I mean but that first kind of like it's hard to replicate that isn't it unless you get a new fella oh yeah oh Kevin bit on the side there you go there you go yeah your heart be racing yeah alright moving on can I just take the jumper off is that I'll allow it I'll allow it you said it okay hey all I'll jump straight in because I'm so wound up and this seemed like the only place to come for some clarity on the issue of course I mean this is this is the safe space isn't it any problems with that any clarity on the issue this is where you come I posted a video of my son cleaning his seat at the match on Sunday and it's half what does that even mean blew up he's two for content his seat was just dusty because the ground was new not because somebody opened the trophy cabinet which is what most of my haters are saying now I find the comments Everton fan yep now I find the comments funny it's just football banter what has enraged me and my question to you is how do you feel about kids playing on iPads and phones at the match despicable despicable so my other son he's three he's in the background on his iPad and wow it's brought them all out I love arguing with men usually it's too easy but there are too many of them argument a is other people have paid good money would have paid good money for my son's ticket b it's not a place to take kids my argument is it's never sold out i didn't win a golden ticket then waste it i've just bought one of many tickets so i should be able to do what i want with it i'm not going to force him to watch every second like matilda's dad secondly i let him on his ipad for 15 minutes of the second half to break it up most of these men wouldn't blink twice at somebody missing 15 minutes to queue up for a pint or somebody leaving halfway through if we were getting beat.

26:01Lastly, I have to respect... I hate when fans do that. Very good points by the lady. That is a good point. She's got made two very good points. Lastly, I have to respect the fact that other people around me have spent their money on their tickets. So obviously, I have to put things in place to keep my kids entertained so they don't affect anyone else's time. Another good point. My kids loved it and I made up I could take them and I can't wait to tell them when they're older they went to the first proper match there. I'm not letting strangers on the internet dampen it judging a 10 second clip the whole day but I would love to hear your views on it thank you so my initial reaction is what is the point in going to the match if you're going to sit there on the iPad my second point I'll make I think to keep an age 2 or 3 year old child's attention span for a 90 minute game is almost impossible so I personally wouldn't take a child that young you know because we've when our kids were babies well when sophia was a baby and lib and we'd be in a but i'd like be in the box watching peter yeah i had a bit of like an escape so because i could take them in there and they could sit with my mom and do some coloring or there's a tv get a drink and they can watch it on tv and they can play that's i do a snorer like because we'd be that we'd be like in the friends and family yeah yeah so there'd be like things to entertain the kids because it is impossible for them to sit and watch 90 minutes because as she said even men will go get a drink or go for a wee or leave early if the team isn't doing so well which i don't agree with um but yeah i just wouldn't take kids that young i took jack to his first game last season he was six yeah and uh he sat and pretty much watched the whole match but i think any younger than that is a struggle do i agree with yeah and i had something with arsena when we went to the game and I thought perfect age she's 9, 10 now but I would say it sounds like she's an Everton fan this lady and if it's the first game of the new stadium that might have been more of I want to bring you for that so you can say that you went and saw Everton at the first game the first stadium I'm not getting them a season ticket but I would agree 2 to 3 is a little bit young when that baby's 100 years old lives to be 100 right she's got great grandkids and they're all Everton fans I remember I love the way we're presuming it's Everton they did say they had spare tickets so it could be a lower league.

28:20Well, spare tickets, no trophy cabinet. And a new stadium. And she's watching the iPad while the matches game. She stinks of Everton. You're a prick. Why are we hammering Everton? I've got an Everton jumper over there. I took her off because I didn't want her shit. Did you buy that at the game? Before the game, yeah. Could you get filled in walking around with that on us? London. Fucking East London. By you, West Ham fans. Fucking bring it. they're all in the same position yeah i'll hammer them um no it's a tough one i i see both sides yeah but if it's purely about the kids watching the ipad at the game i i i don't like that but i i don't like the kids on the devices full stop so yes but she makes some good points yeah and i do i do agree that you know the first game of the season I think is or whatever I mean it's such a prestigious moment that you know to say that you know that kid can say they've been to their first game ever at the new stadium and they've won as well we're just presuming I think that's like an exception isn't it but normally I would be completely kind of like what are you bringing a two and three year old but on first look without air comments you can see why people are going oh my god we won a ticket and their two kids are sitting there on iPads not even watching the game but as you delve deeper she's got some very good valid points so yeah I'm on the fence yeah yeah and she's a blue nose go ahead girl hi Abby Pete and Ross big fan of the pod and I listen when I take our Spaniel Murphy on his evening walk Spaniel I wanted to ask about big choices I'm thinking of changing career and this is a big thing as I've worked in the same profession for 27 years but I'm not sure I made a big choice six years ago I moved from Liverpool to Nottinghamshire to be with my fiancee, who I love dearly.

30:16It was life-changing, but sometimes not for the best. I was thinking about when Abby was on British Next Top Model, and my niece and I watched every week, and we were always rooting for you. You had to make a big choice whether to take up a lucrative modelling contract in the States or go home to Pete, who I thought at the time was defo punching above his weight to be dating you, and thought you were mad not to take it.

30:43fan of the pop history history has proven me wrong and you have a great career a fab relationship and a lovely family so my question is uh do either of you have any regrets uh and feel you made the wrong big choice for your information i'll be you were robbed on britain's next model uh love from from annie so if i was uh in in the same situation with annie she would have fucked me off really early on and uh pursued her modeling group it's nice to know i appreciate the support i think i think for her i am a big i am big on change and just impromptu decisions and just do it like and i was inspired so much when i when i did exhibit a from people and they all successful entrepreneurs multi-million businesses they just did it and i think if you're feeling the urge for change and you can do it do it because you can always go back exactly exactly and then if you do that you won't be lying on your deathbed going do you know what I wish I would have taken that job I wish I would have took that chance and gone here and done that and you've given 27 years in a career you can't say that you haven't like tried your best at it or done it or whatever but that feeling would always be niggling in the back of your head people change and they have new interests and new things and I think you should just do it yeah I don't think you'll ever regret going for it no but you might you would not yeah do you know what I mean exactly yeah I think because if you go for it it doesn't work you go do you know what at least I'd have a go at that 100 % maybe give yourself a time limit with the new career if it doesn't work out in X amount of months yeah or maybe like she could go part time with her job and then I don't know what the other job is but she could do online courses or go and study for it or get a part time job doing the other thing or volunteer in that role or something and go actually that's not for me or whatever yeah I think you should just try everything says here she's an investment banker she wants to move into OnlyFans

32:43go on girl welcome to see that girl on OnlyFans who made more money than Lebron last year what what's her name don't know can I find that Lebron yeah wow okay before we jump into the rest of the pod I think this feels like a pretty good place to take a break and listen to our sponsors yeah and if you are enjoying this content because it is top quality content by the way absolutely hit follow it makes sense and share it with you your friends hello not sure if i'm writing to the correct place but i know abby has briefly mentioned having issues with her hair i'm struggling myself and at the moment i hear so much conflicting advice i'm just wondering what she has done to correct it as her hair looks amazing okay yeah so long story short i took a five hour journey to get my hair done by somebody who looked sensational online and went there and it was an utter disaster and my hair broke off to there so it's been a real journey um so I've you know gone back to Paul Edmonds where I've been for the past 20 years and they've just put me on um like special shampoo hair masks trying not to do anything to no heat no tongs eat a lot more protein you can go on supplements but I think you can get it through your food and I take the collagen that also skin which it's definitely helped my skin and my hair yeah but I think just do nothing to it and let it recover loads of hair mass sleeping in it hair oil castor oil rosemary oil you can get it yourself like that castor oil is so cheap you can get it for like two quid in like pharmacy and then you can put like fresh rosemary in it and make it yourself and put it on sleeping in coconut oil scrape it back just put it up yeah so lots of treatments a lot that goes into it doesn't it yeah there is do you then just turn up looking that good pee ah well I've had to do my own it looks good now yeah it does it's getting there it's getting there but the top was that big and it was dyed black at the back and then it it was a disaster but I don't really like Batman people yeah but that's a while that was a while ago you've come through that now six months it's very nice my hair doesn't grow hardly does it it's took six months to get like this no good advice there I think very good yeah I wore a lot of wigs as well on shoots did you yeah so in that process when I was kind of fixing my hair because I didn't want the heat on it the thing is that you can get away with that maybe in like the modelling industry if she's working like if she's super from accounts and she comes in with a different wig on every day she's going to be getting some funny looks at stage I'm just saying what I did they were very natural looked like my own but it was just like my hair couldn't take it my hair couldn't take it but it's unfortunate with the hair it's just a lot of time and just being consistent with the hair mask the oil take collagen eat a lot of protein keep it au naturel au naturel unfortunately there's no quick fix good advice hair gym in the gym yeah can I ask me anything um hi guys love the pod uh you're all very funny together i'm about to have two babies the same 15 month age gap as uh you abby and pete would love each of their perspective on coping with this self-inflicted chaos uh had the worst first trimester ever feel like the worst mom to my little girl but through the worst now and we're just very excited to have another little tiny baby as they grow so fast we're so lucky to have this brilliant support around us but even so we're absolutely shitting ourselves thanks do you know what looking back it's probably the best time as chaotic as it was and as sleep deprived as it was i'd give anything to go back to those times so they were two little babies yeah we had jack in lockdown and now he's six like it's like what the hell that's mud do you know bizarrely it was karma because i think we were probably doing slightly less because you can't because you've got to dedicate your kind of life to your family more so bizarrely it was kind of less work stress or less kind of outside influence stress and just more focused on family life which is bizarrely karma yeah yeah yeah if you look at it that way yeah yeah it's quite a nice way to look at it definitely but it's it's you know there's definitely a huge reward at the end when i see the bond my kids have got it was so close in age like they love each other they play together and they've got like a real little liberty johnny and jack I've got a proper little pack going on because they're all so close in age.

37:24But she's got to be fine. I just enjoy her. And what would you say about kind of like, obviously if she's heavily pregnant, she might not feel as like active or presence with the newborn. When I was pregnant with Johnny, Lib was two. I couldn't get out the bed. I had that hypomesis. I was vomited every day for nine months and the nausea was just like horrific. I had every rash, didn't I, Pete? Any smell, I'd be chugging my guts up. so I literally trained Lib to just be she was in bed with me for nine months yeah like watching movies remember yeah so that's why she's like a proper home buddy now I think she was just with me at all times but you do get the guilt but you know you have to listen to your body and rest I think but yeah having like a six month old when you're in your first trimester and vomiting and everything it's just a nightmare it's not ideal but obviously when the baby comes as well and you've got them so yeah we were much more relaxed with our last baby it was very much like kind of get in your own room yeah yeah yeah because we're not not really that's not true like we had two in the room yeah but like it we were a lot more kind of relaxed rather than just yeah we had too much we couldn't it was johnny was also almost more work and more needy being older because he He'd know he could walk, he could slightly talk by the time Jack was born.

38:46So the attention was more on him because when you get a new baby, like they're no trouble. You're just sleeping all day, yeah. But now you've got to watch him banging his head on covered corners and stuff. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd have them papoose things, didn't I? So I could still go to the farm and play with Johnny and the baby would be on me. Yeah, bizarrely, like if everyone's advice is like palm the kind of older one on your husband. and go look after the baby who's doing absolutely nothing. Just see her having a coffee and watch you run around. Very good. It's the easiest time newborn.

39:21And the payoff will be worth it, like you said. Oh my God, yeah. It's just only it's the night time, isn't it? Yeah. But I covered all that. He is full of... Those fig tits. Absolutely. Baby latching on. Nonsense. Nonsense. Okay, I've got a quick one here, babe, right? to end on question for us if anything are Solomons the new Adidas I do like a Sully I completely did it I completely did it we hammered we did we hammered him and now I see people are quite cool Adidas were never hammered when they first came out I don't know much they've always been kind of cool no I've got loads of Adidas trainers I love them I think they're good now I like the golf gear I bought a load of t-shirts shirts utility wear lemon lemon you wait till you see me on the golf course no fuck off lemon polo shirt like a pig jumping over his shoulders lemon polo with the adidas logo green bright green all over it lemon and green class sensational I'm going to put it on playing golf this afternoon so I'll put it on now for you okay please do yeah yeah you can't wear that in the peeing down range that's the only problem it's not really that type of environment it was a summer give it a few months you'll be wearing it on the pod yeah it's good mate yeah look I'm a big fan of Adidas Adidas is better than Solomon also like Solomons are good for like a specific thing like Adidas Solomon are more hikery aren't they yeah exactly skiing boots yeah and skis and skis I always like the person in a Solomon though they're always like cool I know what you're saying effortlessly cool hikery I like that look don't I yeah it's called utility it's great but yeah scousers are on it as well you know that they're so unbelievably comfortable John bought me some Solomons and I bought the dog in them they kind of wrap around your foot they are nice so we need any more sponsorship deals you know where we are yeah alright well that's it really babe I think we've helped enough don't you helped enough how excited are you to get on the golf course in this weather P I am excited do you know what's clearing up everyone always Ab always says to me I'd like to do a few more you can't plan this and I say have the faith and quite often it's okay I'd like to do a few more questions because I know what my task is when I get in look at that suitcases I've just seen all them in your porch I thought this house is a fucking tip she's really letting her standard slip I've got to do all this washing and bloody I've got to take that curtain to the dry cleaners because they're fucking cats oh right well I'm playing a really shit course today cats peed on me brand new curtains on the bottom of it no phones allowed on the top floor try to be mad just to pre-warn you you're going to have to take them curtains to the dry cleaners on your way oh class yeah yeah okay they'll stay in this boot for six months on that note folks we'll see you next week lots of love cheers guys

From the publisher

On this week’s Ask Me Anything, Abbey and Peter are back with another batch of your dilemmas and confessions. From the struggles of life after sport and breakups that cut deep, to navigating big career changes and whether it’s ever okay for kids to sit on iPads during a football match, nothing is off-limits.


Abbey opens up about her hair recovery journey after a salon disaster, while Peter gives his no-nonsense take on love, regret, and why the honeymoon butterflies don’t last forever. There’s also chat about their trip to see Oasis in Dublin, parenting two kids under two, and even a heated debate on Adidas vs Salomon.


Expect hilarious tangents, unfiltered honesty, and surprisingly wise advice from the couple who prove that love, laughter and the odd eye-roll go hand in hand.


If you want to submit an Agony Ab to the podcast – find our email below!


00:00 – Intro

00:27 – Abbey & Peter on Oasis in Dublin with Sophia

04:47 – A retired athlete writes in about heartbreak and loneliness

09:35 – Where to eat and party in Liverpool

12:28 – A listener asks: do we love people or who we become with them?

15:48 – Why humour and honesty keep Abbey & Peter’s love strong

20:05 – The great debate: kids on iPads at football matches

25:16 – A listener faces a massive career change after 27 years

28:00 – From investment banking to OnlyFans…

28:17 – Abbey’s five-hour hair disaster and recovery journey

31:11 – Parenting chaos: coping with two kids under two

34:52 – Adidas vs Salomon


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