

23 Sep 2025 · 46m · 22 chapters

The Therapy Crouch discusses “wild” Instagram/relationship advice claims, weekly listener “wines,” and agony abs (relationship dilemmas). They also cover VR/porn and work-life boundaries, plus sleep/bed-sharing and aunt/role-model support.
No guests appear; hosts are Abby Clancy, Peter Crouch, and Ross (Topless Ross on the laptop).
Abby Clancy is a TV personality/model; Peter Crouch is a former professional footballer and TV presenter; Ross is the third co-host (podcast producer/regular panelist).
Instagram says couples who reconcile within 30 minutes stay together longer; massage reduces stress/cortisol and boosts bonding; women need more sleep than men; bed-sharing affects women’s sleep quality.
A listener credits the pod with preventing suicide after losing a dad; a listener complains about constant “Shabba” (household dancing/cleaning); VR headset used for porn; IT worker worried about receiving topless selfies at work; friend-with-benefits friendship changes after kissing/drunk messages; proposal pressure and ring-shopping jokes.
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The hosts share light-hearted banter about their weekend experiences.
“He's on the laptop and he's got no shirt on for some reason.”
Discussion on a heartfelt message received about mental health struggles.
“Yeah Not too much whining, I don't think.”
The hosts emphasize the importance of checking in on friends and seeking help.
“Well, quite often people in that situation feel that they're a burden on people.”
The hosts read listener whines and discuss the 'Shabba' trend.
“yeah okay so no wines between us then today No wines.”
Discussing the overwhelming trend of 'Shabba' in daily life.
“My children are 10, 8 and 4 and my partner is 37 going on 5.”
A shocking story about a boyfriend using VR for questionable activities.
“Yeah, no, that's too much shabbering, I think.”
Debate on what constitutes normal sexual behavior in relationships.
“Thrusting into Trinare with a Sims character.”
Exploring the impact of quick reconciliation on relationship longevity.
“Have you ever put one of yours in the doghouse and then forgot why you put them in the doghouse?”
The importance of physical touch in relationships and its benefits.
“You just had a go at that guy with his goggles on.”
The importance of physical touch in relationships and its benefits.
“don't forget to share with your friends and family.”
Discussing personal experiences and the challenges of sharing a bed.
“Sounds about right I can see it You know what I mean I think mainly snoring I love sleeping next to you Do you?”
Learn about the challenges of sleeping when unwell and the importance of personal space.
“because I was like all funny with being sick, and it was horrible.”
Discover how aunts positively influence their nieces' lives and self-esteem.
“Studies show girls with strong auntie relationships develop higher self-esteem and confidence in adolescence.”
Explore the dynamics of trust between parents and children and the importance of communication.
“Yeah, someone older that they look up to.”
Learn why studies show women require more sleep than men.
“You know, if it was for like a boyfriend and she wanted to come to me or you and she went to...”
A light-hearted discussion about reality TV and daily routines, including midday naps.
“Peter, I am, can I just say, I will take any type of abuse on this pod, but I won't take that.”
Hear advice on dealing with unexpected sexy selfies in the workplace context.
“Well, listen, mate, what I would say is, you know, that dries up.”
Understand the complexities of transitioning from friendship to intimacy and how to mend friendships.
“Why can't you just wait till he gets home to see the boob?”
Gain insights into finding lasting love after a series of bad relationships.
A listener expresses their desire for a fairytale proposal and seeks advice on nudging their partner.
“He's the perfect balance of kind and chivalrous, but not wet.”
The hosts discuss the complexities of marriage pressure and how to approach it humorously.
“Well, you claim that I drew my ring for you.”
A reflective moment on the importance of checking in on friends during tough times.
“yeah I get it I think just ask him straight when are you going to marry me just put that song on repeat in the house yeah yeah yeah Alexa ring on it do you remember how many times you played that song?”

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0:52Abbey Clancy: hello and welcome to the therapy crouch at me abby clancy me peter crouch and our ross topless Ross on the laptop. He's not here again. He's on the laptop and he's got no shirt on for some reason. I'm sweating that's what but also, P, you having that? You having that? What, the guns? Guns out, funs out. He looks like bloody He-Man there. A pair of headphones on. She-Man. She-Man. He's really proud of those, isn't he? I'm happy with that. I'm not made up there. I look great on it. Ross, it's just fat. It's just a bingo wing. I mean, what are you on about, lads? What are you on about? You've just squashed the size of them.
1:27Fucking fat in your arms. Damn Mazzy.
1:32Abbey Clancy: You need to go to the gym, Pete. You haven't been for a while. You were on track. Oh, I was way on track. Yeah, yeah. I've had a minor step back to involve various copious amounts of alcohol over the weekend. That's just put me back a touch. It does. I'm going to be back on it this week. It really does. Back stronger, as we say. Back stronger. I had the most incredible meal of my life, Ross, this weekend. Go on. Go on. it's a bit of a wanky dish but it was phenomenal wanky dish it was a crumpet cut into a finger shaped slightly burnt which is how I like it you don't like a soggy crumpet and it had a gorgeous twirl of creme fraiche and then loads of caviar and then the other one was like a truffle cream with loads finely finely grated parmesan it was I mean listen seriously wanky but phenomenal it was phenomenal phenomenal phenomenal honestly that that for me that you you preferred the caviar one didn't you but i preferred the cheesy one yeah one of the best things ever when we when we were hung over the day after i was like please pete could you just go and get me some from him and bring them back he wouldn't caviar crumpet free hangover there i'm not sure about that oh yeah we had a roast you like a bit of crumpet loaf do you get crumpet loaf down with your ends no so crumpet loaf at home you know it's heavy what is it full on loaf it's like a loaf that is made of crumper like a full on loaf and you just slice it and you've got like a slice that does sound good like a slice of Warburton but you put on the toast there but it's pure crumper see I've just started I've just started getting just the bread from the bakery now so much better you should do that all the time well I do when I'm dressed I couldn't get any this morning because I did the school run in my bloody pyjamas and fleece dressing gown because I was so late well you're a sexy secretary again today shut up I'm hiding my bags and my wrinkles do it nice I'm a fat face I'm digging the glasses thanks Abi just before we move on is it Peter you sent him to the bakery once and you sent him for bread and he was like where the hell am I meant to get bread from and he was stuck in the bakery who the hell gets bread from a bakery oh yeah yeah I was in a bakery wasn't I thinking about that that was stupid oh class I wasn't in there my brain wasn't working properly because I wasn't in there for the bread our local bakery is phenomenal and I love drop a lib at school and then on my way to riding I stop and get like a crusty crusty carb with ham and coleslaw in it cappuccino I know that that cake from school like the sponge cake with the icing and the hundreds and thousands on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah do you know it's weird that I do that as well but I like we don't really talk about it but obviously I go in a bakery every day but I don't want to do it because I'm wondering why I'm not like getting my body back because I'm just eating bloody cake every day it's so good though like it's a great bakery it's next door to one of the best butchers as well Is that the one that you've got us sandwiches from in the past or is that a different one?
4:31That's a different one Yeah it's top drawer That's the deli Just needs a candlestick maker next door and it'll be love the full lot
4:39Abbey Clancy: There is a hardware store There is a hardware store next door A haberdashery if you will Yeah top level isn't it Oh yeah We've been good though haven't we recently Yeah Not too much whining, I don't think. So basically, yeah, I want to start this pod off in a bit of a serious note. I've got no weekly whines. I wanted to do a weekly shine. And, you know, we all love doing this podcast. You know, it's a highlight of our week, isn't it? Yeah. But we don't, we have so thousands and thousands of messages saying you put a smile on my face, you've made me happy, you get me through my long shifts at work.
5:20Abbey Clancy: but we had this one particular message last week, was it Ross? Yeah. And I just wanted to read it out to just kind of highlight that you don't always know what's going on in people's lives and we must check in with our friends and families or people we work with or you might see them on the bus every day. You don't know what people are going through. And this one particular story, which just left me broken hearted. so here it goes hello guys i had to stop and send this i'm 38 i'm gone through a bad time i lost my dad this year and my head is in a dark place walking my dog this morning i began writing my note in inverted commas sadly my head is in such a shit place i find myself going back to the note repeatedly i used to be confident had girlfriends and prospects it all faded so rapidly i couldn't grab anything meaningful to cling to anyway i was editing my note today and abby was asking why she doesn't get more roles and there was a silence and then peter said it must be the lack of acting experience that could be a factor that moment forced a smile through my tears and genuine ideas of ending things and it's not the first time only today it was so profound i hope it's going to work please don't share my name i just need to thank you all you literally saved my life today laughing is the best medicine i went to a friend's wedding this weekend all of my closest friends have succeeded they're beautiful families and for nearly three years my only companion companion is my dog the wedding made me feel really ashamed and lonely i'm sorry to bother or burden you.
7:13Abbey Clancy: I just think sometimes people deserve the flowers while they can still smile them. Keep doing amazing work. Keep being yourselves. All three of you and all three of you add an element of something words cannot define. You all deserve the absolute best future and I wish you and your families all the very best. Yeah, okay. Well, quite often people in that situation feel that they're a burden on people. They're not ever. You know what I mean? Like just reach out, just talk. Like even that, you know, we've obviously reached out to to him again just to make sure he's okay and stuff like that and he's responded he's responded so I spoke to him a couple of times and he's I'm not going to say his name or anything but he really appreciated us kind of reaching out and noticing and stuff like that and he's happy for it to be spoken about and he's in a better place and yeah he's really grateful and I think that's why it's so important for us to work with charities like BetterHelp because you know if you haven't got that person that relative that friend work colleague to talk to there's always professionals there who can really really help steer you in the right direction give you advice and help get you out of this dark place so you know i urge everyone to kind of reach out to them or someone if you because most people conceal that stuff p i know you wouldn't know you don't know what goes on behind closed doors how people feel inside it's easy to plaster a smile on your face so I just wanted to highlight that and if anyone is feeling similar to our friend there please write to us and we can see you in the right direction to charities and other people who can help I think people listen here quite often it's a bit of escapism isn't it we're dicking around we're having fun and I think people are enjoying that it's just a place to go and kind of switch off have a laugh yeah I mean that little comment there has made him laugh and it's really helped him it's really helped him enough to write in which is lovely yeah and it's funny him saying he's like grateful to us but like I can't think of anything that I'm more grateful for to hear a compliment like that from someone to say you're what yous are doing has helped me in this way like that's I'm so grateful to hear something like that you know yeah okay so no wines between us then today No wines.
9:35Fair enough. No wines. Shall we hear someone else's?
9:38Abbey Clancy: Let's hear someone else's. I don't like the way this one has started, first and foremost. The Clance, Chinless Wonder and Scott. Chinless Wonder's not like... I told you it was cracking up. Cardi P was one thing. Chinless Wonder. You actually enjoyed Cardi P? That was all right. I don't mind that. It sounds cool. Chinless Wonder's not cool. It sounds cool. Your chin's all right? Well, obviously not. You can want to name me it. just listening to this week's podcast and the postcode wars came up what the actual fuck Eastern Wallasey Warrington I am a wool and I've never claimed to be a scouser if abroad someone automatically thinks that I am so say nah lad nah lad I'm from Cheshire I live in CH64 Little Neston my husband is from Anfield but he's lived on the Wirral now longer than he did across the water therefore he's a wool and I'm having none of it so if someone spent 18 years growing up in Liverpool but has spent the last 36 years living on the Wirral is he a Scouser or a Wool?
10:40Love, Sarah.
10:41Abbey Clancy: Are they talking about me? No, they say her husband has had 36 years living over the water I think it's got to be where you're born, isn't it? 18 years in Scouserland is a long time as well. I think you've got to get a Scouser in my opinion. if we're going by length of time versus not length of time but where you're born, you're a Manc. Yeah, that's true. and I didn't want to be going out with any man I'm joking my dad would kill me yeah well you know I was born in Cheshire so I'm a wool Cheshire's not the same thing no it's not quite wool I don't think it's wool territory I was born in Cheshire but raised in Ealing there's that debate isn't there would you rather be a Scouser or a man I don't remember being I've not been in I didn't Well, I only went there for Christmas to see my brother.
11:33I wasn't raised in Macclesfield, although I've got cousins that I get on really well. I have uncles up there. We lived there for a while. They're trying to commission a mural for Pete up there. Are they? We always get the odd email. Some guy, well, I say they, it's one man's personal objective to get Pete a mural in Macclesfield. What a legend. I'm a Mac lad, do you know what I mean?
11:55Abbey Clancy: We should get murals to do it then. He can't commission a mural. do you know Siggy I can Ross I've done worse you can't convince me I want one I've had one I've had a bloody mural where in Soho oh fuck off you're not from Soho what does that come for I'm not from Soho you want one in Crocgy Girl that's what you want you had a it was a piece of street art you're one someone someone did a street art someone did street art of me so wool or not 36 years say in Wallasey and 18 years in Liverpool. He's a plaziscouser. No, he's a... Depends if he's a Coppite or a Blue. If he's a Coppite, he's a Wool.
12:39If he's a Blue, he's on it.
12:39Abbey Clancy: No, all Everton fans are Wolves. Shut up. It's a mainly Wool thing. They're not the same. They're not the same as normal scousers. What are you on about? Shut up. Shut up. You lot are so easy to wind up. They're so bitter, that's right. You just chill out. They're just bitter. Shut up, you fucking... I let you come here. Let you go up my cousin and this is how you'll be paving. Let you. They're not the same. What's that? Evertonians and Wolves are the same thing. Shut up. What are you on about? Fucking you, eat your specks. I'll tell you. I'm hiding my bags. They get very aggressive out there at football club.
13:19They do. I was actually sad in me Everton jumper before, Pete. Sad bastard. Blue nose. Nilsatis, Nissy Optimum. All right, let's move on because it's a very, you lot take it all a bit seriously that the thing is the walls don't give a fuck yeah the walls are living in the fucking the richest postcodes in the country could laugh at the rosary silly bastards think we ought to be one of them
13:45Abbey Clancy: what are you talking about hey abs Pete and Tudor Bob Tudor knob obviously thanks for the laughs every week getting me through running my own business and as a mother of three wonderful brats. My wine is that I introduced my family to the infamous Shabba. My children are 10, 8 and 4 and my partner is 37 going on 5. At first the Shabba was fun for me because no one knew how to do it. Now I'm being Shabba'd every minute of every day. Food out the oven, Shabba. Bending to pick up the dog's bowl, Shabba. Up the stairs, fucking Shabba. And I'm sick of it. That's all. Thanks. Bye. Ashley35 and fucked off from Kent.
14:27Abbey Clancy: Much love. Yeah, no, that's too much shabbering, I think. Don't you? But our kids do it to us. Yeah, but like, you know, consistent shabbering, like that's... I just don't like walk around tense. Yeah, like tense, yeah. It's not good, that, is it? No. You should put a three limit on it, I think, three a day. Three a day. Three a day. Do you know what I mean? Breakfast, lunch and dinner. Yeah, breakfast, lunch and shabber. Fair enough Yeah I think that's too much You can have a word there Okay Last one My weekly wine is about men Being totally fucking perverts Given any opportunity My boyfriend is obsessed with gadgets And we recently bought one of those VR headsets Problem is he's been using it for porn I came home to find him in the living room Headset on Thrusting into thin air With a Sims character Like a Sims character gone rogue please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this is fucking nuts it's like one stage of cheating that is outrageous that that is serial killer right there that's from Jamie 27 Jamie podcast producer from London that's just an absolute hell no and I think that is an instant sackable offence and also it's an insight into what's going on in this sicko's mind and he should be dumped and removed instantly.
15:59Abbey Clancy: That's a bit harsh, isn't it? A bit harsh, that. A bit harsh. Thrusting into Trinare with a Sims character. Yeah, but like... Just now. Can you imagine that? You know when he gets the tap on the shoulder? Like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he takes them off. No. Oh, sorry. What's he said there? You're home early. I thought you weren't over another hour. I wasn't expecting you there. You've got like one of those dolls off only feels norse as that blow up. Oh my God. I mean, that's a low point. It's got to be a low point for him. That's an awkward dinner, isn't it? I'm sorry, but I just think that's too far.
16:36Abbey Clancy: You know, I'm down for people's sexual preferences or whatever, but that's not normal. I'm sorry. It's the problem with all this bloody AI. It's given false realities. It's not normal. Have you seen like all those mad dolls and the main features to open the mouth and stick the tongue out and all of that. It's just not right. What was that? Where did you see that? Ross inquiring. What was that? What was the name of that? Have you got a website for that? Sounds disgusting. It's just, it's just not normal for me. Like that, you know, people should be in love and want to do that thing because they're in love.
17:16Abbey Clancy: And it's not, I don't know. It's a recipe for disaster in my eyes. and he needs to go and see someone sorry that's not normal he's getting everything he needs yeah i think that's the part of the problem nothing to see people needs to get out a little bit more so i know we're always thinking about talking about things to talk about on this podcast other than our usual drivel um and my algorithm is full of the on my instagram is full of these things like research has shown you know if you sleep in bed with a man at night you're less likely to have a good night's sleep or you know women's brains are 10 times more effective than a man's all of this stuff so i thought we could you know go through them go through a few today and get a little bit of debate go and get the audience involved this is your show you get through them then okay first one so this is just like on instagram like it would just come you know those self-help quotes and things yeah kind of like that yeah exactly yeah uh psychologists found that couples who make peace within 30 minutes of a fight are 80 percent more likely to stay together long term yeah that that makes that makes total sense yeah like because if you let things go on you you end up forgetting what you're actually arguing about but knowing that you don't want to speak to them yeah do you know what i mean and then you think so then it's like anything they do is like a pain in the arse yeah you know so you'll do something and you'll go I fucking hate when you do that I'm going to tell you because normally you wouldn't because they say it's not about avoiding these fights it's about how how fast you heal after them the longer you stay angry the deeper the cracks become I agree with that that's what that's what I mean and quick reconciliation builds trust security and emotional safety and I think those are three integral part of a strong relationship.
19:14Yeah. Have you ever put one of yours in the doghouse and then forgot why you put them in the doghouse? Yeah, that's what I mean. That's exactly what I mean. Like it goes on that long and you're being that stubborn. You forget what the problem was, but you know there's a problem. So you continue with the problem, but you haven't resolved the initial thing.
19:32Abbey Clancy: So these psychologists call this repair attempts and it's one of the strongest predictors of lasting love. because I know, I know, like, I've got friends of mine who won't speak to the husband for a week and vice versa. And then they forget what they're arguing about. I think we always make up before bed normally. Yeah. I know sometimes men who have been put in the doghouse for like a week and they genuinely end up not giving a fuck. So, so. Can I just say that one doesn't work? Because they prefer it there. Oh, for God's sake. You're like, come on. and then you end up going like, oh, fuck it then.
20:10I'll just do something else.
20:11Abbey Clancy: A simple hug, a simple hug, a calm word, or even a smile can stop a fight from turning into distance. Or a party hat. Yeah, yeah, very good. That would annoy you, that one, I reckon. If you put a party hat on, I'd literally go mental. But I think... Kicking the dick incoming. I think those kind of fights that last so long and you're in the doghouse and you ignore each other, they do deepen the cracks. They also devalue your argument and they can turn into distance, which if you want a healthy relationship, that's something I don't think you want. The only devil's advocacy bit I would say on this one is, do you remember when Mel and Elizabeth came on the pod and they were saying that some people need, when they're upset and angry, some people need to be confident straight away, whereas other people need to give them that space to resolve it themselves.
21:05I want to be sucked up to instantly. Yeah, but I think I agree with that, Ross, sometimes because sometimes I do that because I know that if we argue and shout each other, we're just shouting louder and that's never going to get resolved. Whereas if I take myself out of the situation and come back, say, an hour later, then we can resolve that. I think so, yeah. So I wouldn't be too thingy to put like a 30-minute timestamp on it, but resolve it as quick as possible, maybe. Yeah, for sure. By the end of the day, I would say. Yeah, EOD. end of play end of play
21:37Abbey Clancy: I love how they end these quotes as well if you're not following us you're probably never going to see us again if you are then congratulations you're growing every day
21:50the way they put these two generic like happy couples next to each other as well yeah yeah like look big little smiles and I love my husband they probably fucking hate each other look at them they're probably sulking downstairs making this meet while we're partners I'll show you I've got to put my arm around you today at work we've got to pretend we're happy for that mental aspect website
22:14Abbey Clancy: Pete you can't joke this is good advice a man's stress level can drop by 25 % after a 10 minute massage from his partner no science shows touch therapy is one of the fastest ways to calm down the nervous system just 10 minutes of massage lowers cortisol stress hormone levels. It's called masturbation, Pete. Masturbation?
22:41You just had a go at that guy with his goggles on. Masturbation isn't dry. You give me mixed signals. You give me mixed signals.
22:49Abbey Clancy: It's a joke. It also boosts oxytocin, the bonding hormone that deepens love and trust. heart rate slows muscles relax breathing becomes steadier the best part both partners benefit giving touch the massage does not benefit from the massage research has found that couples who share regular massage report less stress better communication and stronger intimacy they want us to follow them again but that makes total sense I think the touch element is a huge thing because I think a lack of touch creates distance it makes you feel insecure because I know you know people who would have an argument and not even touch each other and not having that physical touch makes you can make you crumble as a person it's a real bloody head F that one to somebody yeah I think like that they've put a man right should I but I think it's both ways like I think it's both ways it'd be nice I think I think you'd enjoy a massage in the evening Pete, if I've asked you for a massage, and by the way, this has only been when I've had water retention from being pregnant and in agony with restless legs, or two, like a creak in my neck, I'm like in bed, I'm like, Pete, can you give me a massage?
24:11Abbey Clancy: He'll do that for like one second and then just stop because he's like watching football or something. So I'm like, Pete, come on. Then he does that. And then he's like, stops again. So you're pointless. I'm pointless. I'm pointless. I'm not just chinless. It's probably because you're asking for a foot. I'm pointless. I'm going to say it's probably because you asked for the foot rub Abbie yeah yeah no I'm wrong with my feet I've had you see the concentration if you ask for a boob rub I've had I've had a I've had a nine nine star rating on wiki feet there you have yeah I like giving you a massage I used to call them a coffee yeah I gave you millions of those over the years you have you have I've given you loads as well you have okay it feels like a pretty good place to take a quick break and hear from our sponsors And remember if you're enjoying this top class crouch content, don't forget to share with your friends and family.
25:02Abbey Clancy: Women sleep worse when they sleep next to a man. Toss and turn and waking up exhausted. It might not just be your sleep schedule. Research shows women experience lighter, more disrupted sleep when sharing a bed with a male partner. Biological difference. Women are more sensitive to movement, sound and temperature shifts during sleep. Hormonal effects. That's not true. testosterone and body heat from men can interfere with a woman's natural sleep rhythm sleep inequality women already average less deep sleep than men so sharing a bed makes the gap worse a study in the journal of sleep research found women had lower sleep quality and fewer rem cycles went to sleeping next to a man while the man's sleep stayed mostly unaffected
25:54Abbey Clancy: I can see that though Sounds about right I can see it You know what I mean I think mainly snoring I love sleeping next to you Do you? Yeah But I always want to fall asleep first Because the snoring But you're not a fidgeter in bed I don't feel disrupted by you I don't feel like I move in bed But I must do Because my hair when I wake up Bloody hell I have no issue sleeping next to you as I'm sure many you know lots of people I'm sure would like to sleep next to you I enjoy it Hi Peter I know yeah That's my fucking cousin that month No I'm just saying like you know because I imagine there'd be lots of men going out there yeah it's a fucking right shot I'm going I have no problem with it Crouchy sleeping like a baby with his fucking alleged allergy pillow You don't cause me any issue like you know there's the odd time where I've got to move you back over because you're too close when I say too close I'm right on the edge I can't manoeuvre so I've just got to move your back a bit am I asleep when you do this?
26:59yeah
26:59Abbey Clancy: it's like that tuck and roll thing Ross did yeah from friends yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah where a girl falls asleep you've just got to kind of like get her back over I don't know why but I imagine Peter being a very still sleeper almost like Dracula like yeah he is he lies on his back like this this used to be in my position. That's what I was literally imagining in my head. In a coffin like that. That's what I was imagining in my head. He does do that. I'd also fold my arms sometimes. Do you know who does that as well? Johnny? Yeah, like that. I fold my arms and cross my legs. He lies on his back, but that comes with this.
27:36Yeah, but that's the problem. With the snoring now, obviously I've been stabbed so many times in my side for doing that because I probably snore. Stabbed? Shouldn't be snored the right way. I've been coached out of it.
27:47Abbey Clancy: If you sleep on your side, you don't snore. Yeah, well, that's, yeah. I used to like sleeping on my back, but obviously. That's weird, that snoring situation. I couldn't sleep on my back. I'm more like side to front. I had to sleep like sat up in bed the other day, you know, because I was like all funny with being sick, and it was horrible. It was like so alien not to sleep on your side, but I physically couldn't because I'd be blocking it. You don't even like me putting up my leg on you sometimes. I do. Not when you're asleep? I know what you mean. And it's like, sometimes it's... He gets claustrophobic.
28:20I do get claustrophobic. I feel like it's just, you know, there's a point where it's like, now we're on our own now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean?
28:29Abbey Clancy: I feel that as well. I'm not offended by that. Yeah. Do we either use Twitch? Twitcher in bed if someone touches you? No. No. I've been with some Twitchers and it's fucking scary. In the middle of the night, they just go like that. parenting experts say aunts are just as important as mothers when raising daughters every daughter needs guidance and while mums do so much research research shows aunts play a powerful role too why aunts matter so much they provide love without judgment they offer advice daughters may not share with mum they create a safe supportive bond aunts give daughters a second mother figure, someone they can trust when they're too shy or scared to go to their mum.
29:14Studies show girls with strong auntie relationships develop higher self-esteem and confidence in adolescence. Aunts often become role models showing daughters different perspectives on life, love and independence.
29:28Abbey Clancy: Well I always confided in our friend growing up and would ask her for advice and she's actually technically my cousin but I've always called my auntie for some reason. She was more like my mum's sister but I send my sister these quotes and then an hour later say and she texts me back going oh thanks so much that means so much to me and then I'm like can you babysit next Thursday just need to cement that bond on the weekend when we're in Ibiza no because I thought I'll plant that seed that she's really important to my daughter and then like do you mind babysitting no but like I totally get that there's so many aspects like when it's your mum you know it's too close it's almost like nah my mum oh god she's such a nightmare my mum then you go and see the cool aunt and it's very much like you know you can have a discussion almost like you're on there friend on an adult level but still being guided yes agreed you know what I mean it's like oh my mum hates me she's horrible you know but you're only trying the best where you can go there and get kind of more adult advice it's almost like a like a sister it's like a friend yeah yeah yeah more than family but and I feel like girls from my personal experience like this is only anecdotal like seem to kind of like maybe clash a little bit with the mums as they get older whereas the lads kind of become a bit more matey with the dads if that makes sense like go down to the pub and have a beer and you know chat whatever whereas girls can kind of because they're quite simple and again anecdotal experience like they kind of clash a bit and don't want to ask for the help of the mum so I've seen that I've seen that as well no I think that's definitely true and it's not just aunties I think it's like it can be grandparents or It could be.
31:04Abbey Clancy: Majority arc of things. Yeah, someone older that they look up to. I even think, like, mum's friends. Like, I know Sophia would feel comfortable speaking to my friends if she couldn't speak to me. You know, I'm just being hypothetical. If she did something wrong or was in trouble, like, she could easily call Lucinda up or Kaz. Might have a really older sister as well. You know, sometimes if you've got one of those families, she might have an older sibling, like, a lot older. So what would your thoughts be on, like, Like, say if our Sophia did go to Lucinda for something, do you think Lucinda would...
31:37I'm not saying if she'd do, like, anything massive, like, you know, she's pregnant or anything, but something, like, medium. Like, should Lucinda betray Sophie's... Fucking hell, Ross. Sorry, Sophie's trust and tell you, or if it was, like, not that big of a deal, not tell you and keep that, like, thing, what do you think?
31:52Abbey Clancy: I think there's got to be a bit of both there. No, Lucinda would tell you, wouldn't she? It's that way. But our friend never told anyone, like, wouldn't tell stuff. no no i think i think there's yeah there's an element of that like if if i think it depends what else something i don't think unless it was very important to tell us yeah yeah then she should keep to herself because she's then betraying the trust and she won't go to her again i think but i have the same thing with my little brothers and my dad like sometimes i'm like i like i could tell my dad and i know he's not going to flip the lid but i kind of like building that trust with my little brothers not to tell him a little bit do you know what i mean yeah i totally get that yeah no i think i think it's good to build up that trust and also you know we trust el or lucinda for instance to oh my god deal with that without us to make the correct decision yeah so yeah so you don't you actually don't need to know i think that's a really good point i think every every role model that would be in sophia's life whether it's my sister cas lucinda trust them to deal with it yeah i trust them i know they're good people morally correct so the correct advice would always be given from them.
33:01You know, if it was for like a boyfriend and she wanted to come to me or you and she went to... Like, I know that they would say, do you know what, I don't think he's good enough for you or, you know, like... And steer her in the right direction.
33:12Abbey Clancy: Yes, absolutely. So I'd feel comfortable with that, with not knowing, basically. But it's complete, Bollocks, this one. A new study finds that women need more sleep than men because they use their brains more throughout the day. Yeah, agreed. Women's brains are wired for multitasking, emotional processing and constant switching between roles this burns more energy oh you're telling me sister research has found women's brains show higher activity levels throughout the day compared to men this means women need longer recovery time at night wow lack of sleep affects women more severely leading to higher stress does anxiety mood swings and health problems on average women need about 20 to 30 minutes more sleep than men each night so if she's sleeping in she's not lazy her brain is literally recharging i'd love to see what the name of the author of that one was karen from yeah yeah yeah well you know what i'd like to say is it was half an hour that'd be fantastic two hours longer oh my god that's absolute what they're saying is you should cut you'll sleep by an hour and a half.
34:19Abbey Clancy: Peter,
34:22Abbey Clancy: I am, can I just say, I will take any type of abuse on this pod, but I won't take that. But I won't take that. I draw the line, I draw the line at lions and sleepings. No, no, no, no, that was a complete joke. I am all up and out before you. You're not before me. Pete, I've been getting up at 6am every day this week. The last couple of days you have been before me. that's true no not the last couple of days well last what few days no the last two weeks like I just said because we're still well I've done the last 19 years getting enough out of you fucking boss I love this little hang on right before the agony abs what the hell I am like that is the truth you go for a midday lie down I've never done that in my entire life midday lie down because you mess the bed up because I just see you throw the cushions off I've caught you a good few times I've come home from work there's an Abby sized print in the bed and Housewives of New York's on Midday Housewives of New York look at the cameras then Abby have you watched Real Housewives of Atlanta by the way no I'm on New York stop what you're doing and watch Real Housewives of Atlanta save this mate save this for Hot Girl Fridays no no no Abby I'm telling you Abby you're involved in Hot Girl Fridays this is unbelievable viewing so good this New York one it's very retro isn't it old school I put it on so while Pete's faffing around before bed I'll get in got my VR headset on got my VR headset on with a VR you know Pete I don't even want that image of you I've seen you Pete's playing Sims again I've seen you I've seen him with a because we did that VR headset thing as a family in Greece and we had to be in like a a mystical land and like fight dragons and all that stuff but just the image of you in a VR set no good he'd know how to fucking plug a Scottlead in then wouldn't he so have you exactly right he'd be right on it well if that's what you want to go and do do it oh god anyway yeah napping I don't do it so just take that back for the nation because I'm not having people think I'm a big lion or inner because I'm not no you're not I'm not saying I was only a joke I did say that good alright shall we get into the agony abs let's get into them hi both my girlfriend loves sending me sexy pictures fucking good well done mate while I'm at work go on Hanson on one hand it's exciting on the other I work in IT support and last week one of the lads saw a top-topless selfie when I was sharing my screen I love the effort and I don't want to lose my job but I don't want to lose my job over a nipple how do I tell her to calm it down without sounding ungrateful.
37:16Fucking hell.
37:17Abbey Clancy: It's obviously a new relationship. No problem that is. Stop, stop, girl. Well, listen, mate, what I would say is, you know, that dries up. So I would enjoy every moment of it for now. Yeah. Keep them coming, but between business hours, avoid three and five. I'll just, yeah, I'll just, you know, if he's the IT guy, surely he can work around that. Yeah. Just have a separate phone for personal and work use. Pete. Yes, correct. All right, Pete. That's not good. I know, but too quick with that, weren't you?
37:52Surely that's the route to go down, right? You can't be sharing your screen with your Mrs. Boobs on it, can you? Nah, but you still need the boobs. So yeah. You can't not have the boobs.
38:04Abbey Clancy: Why can't you just wait till he gets home to see the boob? No, but like, it's exciting at work for him to see some boobs shortly. Yeah. I'd go for a long piss and a lunch I'd have a VR headset a happy piss I do not want to be part of this what an absolute parrot this pod's taking a turn I keep forgetting it's going out 70 % of men say that they would rather well let us know if a man how does he go about that let me tell you one option is well is not getting rid of the pictures, is what I'm trying to say. I think it's odd that he doesn't want to get them. Exactly. So I'm trying to say what I'm saying.
38:50I'm saying you've got to work your way around it. Still receive them, but not get caught receiving them.
38:56Abbey Clancy: He could just... Because the thing is as well, if you say don't do it, you could really offend it and then that's not... That would be terrible for his self-esteem if he said don't send them. Yeah, that's disgusting to me then. All right. Hello, Crouchy Ab and Ross. please keep my name anonymous i have messed up this is more of a friendship situation i need help on uh me and this girl from work have always been really close mates and we've had separate partners etc and nothing else was there just mates fast forward to last month when we were on a night out we ended up kissing before the train home she then messaged me saying i wish i came home with you and then i got and then got an uber to my place this then happened on the next night out also i went on holiday and sent multiple drunk messages some of which i can't remember which has changed the whole vibe between us it feels like our casual thing has gone and blown up our whole friendship which is what i cared about the most i said something horrible which has been eating me up i spoke to her since and apologized and she said just leave it however the vibe has completely changed how do i get my friendship back uh the intimate stuff was just something that just happened but I miss one of my best friends regards to your family that's a tough one but you can't have your cake and eat it son is there a way to get it back well if you go off the summer turns pretty for example summer I turn pretty Stephen slept with his work colleague who they got on with so well but there was just nothing there no chemistry and they both agreed oh there's not there and they just went back to being good friends but I think it's hard if one person has more feelings than the other and can't go back to that friendship she clearly likes this boy she wanted more and then he's he's obviously said look I don't want to be sleeping with you anymore he's obviously said something like that and that's really offended her actually yeah I actually yeah I didn't read it like that but now you say it no I think he said to her look this isn't what you it seems you're not me girlfriend da da da da da and he probably didn't even say just be friends he's just he's just been like fuck off you're not my girlfriend or whatever you're getting a bit fucking clingy or something like that yeah something like that and then that's obviously embarrassed her hurt her and she's like god i can't be friends it's someone who could do this where in hindsight he probably just said should have said look when he was sober um we need to have a chat you know I want you as a friend not as anything else and you know we've tried it it doesn't work and they might have been able to salvage I think the way to salvage it is just say look I really miss you as a friend I'd love to be friends again but she might not be able to do that and that's her prerogative yeah you've read that very well have you I wouldn't have got that but yeah I agree okay hi Abby Pete and Ross first of all love the pod obviously you were such a comfort in this wild world world and a fresh breath of normality it's nice isn't it lovely as someone with self-confessed daddy issues and an absolute prison lineup of horrendous exes your relationship gave me hope in a dark time that real lasting love and an absolute litter of children is possible in this day and age oh fast forward two years i found my dream man uh he was actually my booty call and uh and palate cleanser between all five said horrendous relationship who turned out to be the one.
42:26But that's a story for another time. He's the perfect balance of kind and chivalrous, but not wet. Hilarious and fun, but not a man-child and masculine, but not a dick swinger. Who knew it was even possible to see why I'm desperate to have him wife me? I've been convinced he's the one for some time now and I want the fairytale ending, similar to Abby's of a beautiful farmhouse in the country goats, bees and chickens and a pony in the paddock for the kids to ride and of course a big up fucking rock on my finger just don't tell him any of this I know my Mr. Perfect wants the same things too great and I'm being totally impatient but how do I get him to pop the cushion I want it to come from him and I'd absolutely hate to put any pressures on him or take away from his masculinity.
43:19But you know what they say, when you meet the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, you want to start the rest of your life right now. What ideas do you have to help nudge him in the right direction? Also, I'm genuinely terrified he will choose a shit ring. So please give him some ring shopping tips as I know he'll be listening. And hey, if he works out, this is me, then we'll be a hilarious proposal story to tell at the wedding. Stay fabulous, you gorgeous pair. Shabba.
43:46Abbey Clancy: Well, you claim that I drew my ring for you. You did, yeah. You drew it at Mount Waddle sometimes. My mum's friend had a really good idea. She cut a picture of a watch out of a magazine commercial and just sellotaped it to her wrist. I don't think you can force someone to marry you, can you? I think you can consistently say jokes. It could go the opposite way as well. If you do it a bit much, you might be thinking she's a bit like, fucking hell, she's a bit of a nightmare here. Keeps banging on her. Do you know what I mean? Play a cool joke, I say. It's a tough one. you can bring it up every now and then though can't you well normally before you get married you want to get married to each other do you know what i mean so he's the guy what are you saying when you when you are married you don't want to be i'm saying anything what i'm saying is they're normally like up for it as well because it's like no and it's like so exciting oh i love that dress when we get married he he he or whatever don't overdo it though yeah I think her saying I want to start the rest of my life like today already but if you're already with them that's kind of like this is what I can't I can't get my head around that with girls I don't understand why it has to be like that you're enjoying if you're really enjoying your life why don't you just continue enjoying your life I find it I find it bizarre yeah you could risk over complicating her couldn't you a little bit but if she wants kids and a farm can't you get kids on a farm anyway but it's nice to be married I'm not saying after a long string of bad exes she's found the one she's probably like just chomping at the bit to finalise it maybe yeah I get it I think just ask him straight when are you going to marry me just put that song on repeat in the house yeah yeah yeah Alexa ring on it do you remember how many times you played that song?
45:39Abbey Clancy: No, I never did that. Yes, I've heard that story. You remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never. You'd do that lots of times. No, I didn't. In Menlover Avenue, you'd put it on at the top of the stairs and have the single ladies playing as you'd come in. I think I was there for one of them. Has it? Well, I've got zero recollection of that. Well, it obviously worked. It did work, yeah. Get down that jewelers, get that bloody ring and buy that farm and I'll marry you, of course. I'll allow you to marry me absolutely she should just play the willing card of course I'll do it you better get to the shop and buy that ring nice I don't like that I like it that's another pod down babe today yeah I enjoyed that and I think just going back to the start I know it's been you know tongue in cheek and fun and games but just going back to that sentiment at the start where we had that listener write in just keep checking in on people it's easy to not spot the signs of when someone's going through a rough time.
46:38Abbey Clancy: And as I said at the start of the pod, anyone's in a similar situation, please write in and we will obviously respond and we can point you in the right direction for more professional help than listening to us chat and shit. But yeah. Nicely said, babe. All right, we'll see you next time. See you next week.
On this week’s episode of The Therapy Crouch, Abbey and Peter dive headfirst into some of the wildest Instagram threads you’ve heard. With outrageous weekly whines about VR porn addictions and kids who won’t relax with the infamous “Shabba”. Expect fiery debates over Scousers vs. Wools and plant of laugh-out-loud moments.
Things take a more heartfelt turn when they read a moving listener message about how the podcast has genuinely helped someone through a dark time—reminding us all of the power of laughter and connection.
The pair also weigh in on relationship psychology tips from Instagram, parenting debates, and even the dangers of topless selfies popping up mid-work. In the Agony Abs, listeners write in with dilemmas ranging from messy friendship hook-ups to dropping hints for proposals, giving Abbey and Pete plenty to get stuck into with their no-nonsense advice.
00:00 – Outrageous cheating confessions and VR porn horror stories
00:20 – Abbey and Pete banter about fitness setbacks and wanky caviar crumpets
04:24 – Abbey reads a moving listener message about mental health and survival
07:29 – The couple discuss the importance of checking in on loved ones
09:41 – Scousers vs. Wools: the postcode war heats up
13:40 – The “Shabba” parenting nightmare—when kids take things too far
14:26 – VR porn headset thrusting story sparks disbelief
17:06 – Abbey and Pete react to Instagram ‘relationship psychology’ tips
22:08 – The massage vs. masturbation debate takes a hilarious turn
28:02 – Do women really sleep worse next to men?
38:25 – Awkward friendship hookup threatens to ruin everything
42:01 – A listener begs for proposal tips and ring-shopping advice
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