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31 Jul 2025 · 35m · 10 chapters

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Would You SPLIT UP Over This Blunder?

In short

Dating and cohabitation “blunders” and boundaries—specifically: whether to call out “hat-fishing” (a bald man hiding hair with a cap), how to handle awkward photo requests with kids/celebrity-like attention, and relationship friction over cooking from scratch, health/green juice digs, and a boyfriend forgetting a birthday.

Guests

Abigail Clancy (model/TV personality; co-host) and Peter Crouch (former professional footballer; co-host). Episode also includes listener voice notes.

Key claims

“Draw the line” on photos is hard but often you don’t mind because kids are happy; hat-fishing is tricky to confront without hurting feelings; cohabiting arguments start small (e.g., spag bol sauce) and can escalate; passive-aggressive health comments are unfair; forgetting a birthday is “training a dog” if tolerated.

Notable examples

spag bol/domestic over using jars vs slow-roasting; girlfriend digs about swan porter/green juice; boyfriend only texts “happy B day babe” at 6pm; cap-off reveals full baldness.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

0:27

Holiday Encounters and Mispronunciations

Discussing funny moments from holidays and mispronounced names.

“I'll be honest with you, like, obviously when I...”
4:50

Encountering Fans and Autograph Dilemmas

Conversations about meeting fans and the challenges of interacting with them.

“I know you've discussed this previously on the Thurby Crouch.”
9:20

Funny Stories and Celebrity Encounters

Sharing humorous anecdotes about celebrity interactions and recognition.

“So I think the question, I don't know the things you're saying, is it hard for you to know where to draw the line?”
14:00

Champions League Final Memories

Discussion about a memorable Champions League final experience involving famous players and a humorous take on a night out.

“I've never seen, I've never heard of him.”
17:40

Dating and Expectations

A conversation about the expectations and realities of modern dating, including experiences with appearances and honesty.

“Some men look great with it, don't they?”
19:56

Cohabiting Challenges

Discussion about the challenges of living together, cooking habits, and domestic disputes over simple meals.

“Well, I think he's probably going through it at the dinner table, he's probably thinking this date's going great, I've got my cap on because I know that I've, you know, I've put loads, all my pictures I've got hair on.”
25:40

Health and Relationship Dynamics

Exploring the dynamics of relationships when one partner is trying to improve their health and lifestyle.

“And I was just listening and she was just hitting me with jobs.”
28:00

Navigating Relationship Expectations

Learn how to address unmet expectations in relationships, especially birthdays.

“don't you because you are quite active on your holidays because you've got the kids and you're active anyway.”
31:10

Setting Boundaries in Relationships

Discover the importance of setting boundaries and addressing emotional issues.

“I mean he texted 6 that's basically missing it yeah why?”
34:24

Reflecting on Romantic Gestures

Explore the significance of romantic gestures and their impact on relationships.

“I miss everyone I miss yours didn't I no we had a barbecue did we?”
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0:02Abbey Clancy: That sound could mean a lot of things. And when something's going wrong at home, the hardest part can be figuring out what the problem actually is. At Thumbtack, you can upload a voice message or a photo, and our AI-powered search will help diagnose your project. Plus, the pros we know have over 14 million five-star reviews, so you can hire with confidence. Thumbtack. We know homes. Hire the right pro today.

0:32I'll be honest with you, like, obviously when I... Or Ben's your uncle.

0:37Filled the car up as well.

0:43Abbey Clancy: Benzema. It's not bad. You're right. Is that something you take from a gava spell? I was like Benzema. It's like a pill. Ask me anything. Hello and welcome to the Therapy Crouch. ask me anything with me abigail clancy and me peter crotch well done i like that new one it's like the guy with the x factor there wasn't someone famous for doing one of those like with me and then they say their name and then it's someone else says their name i can't remember i'm sure there was a dublatt that used to do that Ant and Jack nah do you know so I actually saw Ant and Jack when I was away not long ago did you and um yeah they both played golf but they weren't partners right so then they finished they did quite well I think they finished second and um when they were reading out like who's won and it's second Ant and Jack and everyone went nah nah I can't you can't ever say that again Ant and Jack did Jack play with that you can't be a partner with anyone else ever again can you that's so funny and Jack and Jack they're what don't even like deck and answer of mine Jack I know do you ever have like friends um no like Jason and Stacey I always call them yes yes yes Joe and Izzy Stacey and Jacey all the time Stacey and Jacey or Riley and Alex I'm like Riley and Ralex just all the time do we oh let me do do that do you do that I do do that but I can't remember for whom I'll have a thing Juicy and Lames Juicy and Lames Juicy and Lames I love it I love it I always do it yeah you do you do so bad I've done it before as well though you can't really do it with us what is it Pabby Pabby Stacey and Jacey isn't it Jacey and Stacey yeah yeah Jacey and Stacey I always say it I always there's a running joke with my lads as well that I once mispronounced Stone Cold Steve Austin I called him Steen Cold Stove Austin what was it Steen Cold Stove Austin or something like that Stone Cold Steve Austin Steve Cold Stone Austin oh John you still love him I know he did yeah Stone Cold Steve Austin he came from nowhere really I thought the kids should like that I want to take the kids to see Gladiator what the new TV show the relaunch yeah the filming in Sheffield oh in the arena And I've got a chance, because our friends are producer of it, so they said we can go.

3:26Abbey Clancy: We should take them. That'd be a laugh, that. Be good. How long does it take to get to Sheffield? Two hours. It's pretty long. On the train. No, two hours on the train. Oh, yeah, it'd be about three hours. I used to live in Sheffield. Did you? Yeah, I turned around to uni. Big up. Sheffield Steelers. Really? I used to go and watch Arjon and gigs in Sheffield often. I know. I was there just the next year. Gigs are great, yeah, in Sheffield. and it's all just the time I lived there I've got no recollection of you living in Sheffield yeah is that a good uni Sheffield yeah yeah uni I was really good and Hallam as well go hard or go Hallam that's what we used to say what's Hallam that's like the polytechnic is that uni bands uni bands oh what stage on campus your dad works for my dad I had a letter through from the school about vaccinations oh no and apparently you can't get into uni if you don't have certain vaccinations well when I was at my first year two people died of meningitis in freshers week well Zephira had bloody meningitis yeah it's naughty but she was vaccinated as well yeah already was she that's mad but yeah everything goes around uni freshers flu they call her everyone gets it because they're all swapping spit and the rest like meninginas you sitting on that we're back we're back we're back meningitis you can't be making gags when you're that old you shouldn't do meningitis gags folks not really I don't think we were gagging about making a gag about meningitis it's horrendous I liked it it stayed in it was there for me it was teed up it had to happen should we help Yes, let's go.

5:17Okay. Hi, Abby, Pete and Scott. I like it already. I know you've discussed this previously on the Thurby Crouch. Folks wanted to chat when you're out. I'm with friends on holiday and met Pete at a restaurant. I wanted to apologise for disturbing him while he was out on his holiday, but also wanted to say thanks. You're a top bloke, Pete, as you could have just waved us away, but you allowed us to get a photo with you.

5:41Abbey Clancy: Proceeded to moan about it to me once he left. As you did too. Can't they see I'm eating my dinner? These people got no manners. Some fucking people. The gall of them. Oh, no problem. It's when that little boy come over and you went like that. And I went, what are you looking at? He went, just seeing if his dad can see that I'm having a dinner. No, that was, no, because I'm good as gold. You are. No, you are, you are, you are, you are. There was one particular one where I was, it just arrived. Yeah. It's hot. Yeah. I'd like it to stay hot. Yeah. and I've just had my first bite and then and he came over and I thought he was only a young lad so I thought obviously no problem but he'll be with his dad surely his dad would have said to him he's having a dinner so I did have a look I went I couldn't see him wait until at least he's on his dessert so then I was like obviously yeah no problem so I still had a picture no problem but I just thought if your dad was there he would he would say he should say I said yeah no worries wait till he's finished his dinner 100 % but you are very good you are very very good you are very good I've seen some of the people we know don't do any photographs with the kids?

6:43No, I listen, especially for the kids as well. Like, it's no problem at all. That's me, he's after my singer. That's Stephen Gerrard.

6:56Abbey Clancy: Oh no, it's only Stephen Merchant. It's only Stephen Merchant. No, Stevie Merchant. He was great in the office. Oh, I actually had one today, funny enough. Yeah. I was at the shop, yeah, I was at the supermarket and, yeah, a woman like, banged on the door no worries did you shoot yourself in your car in the car and I opened it the first line was Pete you'll get done for dogging doing that carrying on like that he was an older lady she said Milf oh I don't like you she said I don't like you first words oh I don't like you I thought you were oh my god what was that gonna happen here are you gonna do me in or what she said I don't like you but I love your wife

7:42Abbey Clancy: not often does that happen can you actually imagine imagine the opening line when you've knocked on someone's thought window yeah is when they open the door I don't like you would you say she was OAP age-ish because I love the thought of getting to that age on the way like on the way there yeah you're allowed to say anything when you're an OAP I don't like you but I love your wife tell her she's gorgeous and your daughter's stunning aww and I went cheers we had a lot of that on holiday didn't we I felt what was that today happened today this morning I only nipped out from a freaking quick quick job we nipped out for a bit of course I'm forgetting this yeah a bit about ran out of Alpesa you erm you know I used that on holiday your Alpesa I know I've got it in your shower because I had to get the other shower one it turned my hair pink did it yeah I've bought a multi-pack I've got 36 packs of love.

8:40Love it. Listen, if you go hard or go home. Go hard or go Hallam.

8:44Abbey Clancy: Go hard or go Hallam. Go Hallam. I love it. We had a lot of that people saying, like in the airport yesterday, a lot of people stopping us and going, your kids are so gorgeous. That's a big compliment. Very nice compliment. I know, it's so nice. I like that. They are very good looking, I think. But, you know, I'm their dad. Bias. Very biased. Jack on to a buzz cut now does he? but I'm scared you can pull it off so anyway they said you could have waved us away but you allowed us to get a photo as you did with several other people it's hard for you to know where to draw a line and where to say no I've listened to Therapy Crouch since it started and it's my favourite pod great chat and humour I'm sure people think they know you all you must feel caught between the devil and the deep blue sea sometimes I hope that you will get a chance to enjoy the rest of your break with as few holiday groupies as possible.

9:40That's from Steph.

9:40Abbey Clancy: Oh, that's nice. Yeah. So I think the question, I don't know the things you're saying, is it hard for you to know where to draw the line? But I think you kind of answered that. Yeah, I think it is hard. The reality is you don't really mind. Like all the kids are so happy when they see you. You are, you're very, very good at them. Yeah, I get a bit nervy when I'm in large groups. Yeah, you've said that to me before. I remember there was once how we landed, and it was passport control was packed and there was a lot of English flight at the top oh god that's gonna be tricky yeah but like but no I don't mind at all no good lad why did you do that because I'm moving my thing up stop mewing at me just chin in the mic I'm moving the microphone with my chin you massage me with your chin sometimes I love it you do love it okay and Abbie how do you find it when you get swamped by your groupies I don't I've got all my friends in the gym you get a bit embarrassed yeah I hate it why do you get so embarrassed though because I feel like I don't know I just don't feel worthy I don't know why that made me laugh that's quite a deep story no not on a deep level I just feel like why would you on a photo with me what do I even do do you know what I mean yeah yeah you're right let's move on what am I I don't know what I am no I'll totally get that though

11:08that was weird

11:09Abbey Clancy: I don't know I don't know what my description of myself is do you know what don't you have to fill in a form Jesus Christ do you know what made me laugh the other day Peter this is on the other pod but when you were talking about how sometimes people don't want a photo with you but just a photo of you in a random place it's unbelievable and then he does this I'm like open your fucking eyes now there's loads of gorgeous photos of me on Google you can just get a better one it's one of the strangest things that photo of me just standing there like that that is genuinely on there that would sound like a trap he's on Google you can't Google it but we've been asked to take photos of of other people though which I find's mad I'd love that's the one giving you banter though isn't it do you mind if you get a photo and then they give you the camera to take there have been some people that have got no no have you seen the picture of i think it's vinicius jr no and and someone's asked him is it vinicius or is it um it's um yamal yeah yeah and um who are they the kid who plays for barcelona in spain he's like one of the most famous must be the famous most famous 17 year old on the planet i would say i've never heard he's a massive footballer now huge i mean yeah amazing but he so this group have asked him to take the photo and someone's taking a photo of him taking a photo boyfriends of Instagram and all his mates are laughing right that's great that is great that is funny but he's done it as well yeah yeah good laugh of course it's good you know he's a human too it's a funny old thing does he look like a footballer yeah or does he look like a child he's a kid well he is a kid unreal and he's well he was playing at Euros at 16 wasn't he he came Did he come on?

12:58No, he ran the show at 16.

13:00Abbey Clancy: Yeah, but look at Foden was playing at 16. This kid's doing stuff that, I mean, playing like... Better than Foden? Champions League, like top level football. Who was the player everyone was waiting to see the other day and I keep saying the name, Ryan? You say it. Oh, yeah. Benzema. It's not bad. You're right. Is that something you're taking from fucking Gaviscon? I'm saying Benzema. smells like a pill Benzema Irritable pal take Benzema

13:37oh you were spot on there yeah you're great content it was funny though because I wasn't at where they were training I was

13:45Abbey Clancy: I was doing a fucking HIIT class outside on the grass next to the whole team great girl it was awful and they were all like laughing at me and Lucinda the way we were running I bet they were I bet they were laughing yeah this definitely worked

14:00Peter is what was getting said there me and Lucinda it's like

14:03Abbey Clancy: we had to do burpees like up this hill and then get up and then jump and Lucinda's like I don't like this one I'm not doing this one we're not doing this so we just waited just waited till it was over why? because it was very much close to the players no not to the players it was just horrific on the body oh right okay it's tiring no but it was it was a Saudi team there right so obviously the I've forgotten the name now but the well Benzema Blazer Benzema's team and yeah I was trying to get to the bottom of who it was and it was so funny the conversation was amazing I think Cristiano Ronaldo is down at the gym and I was like oh really I wasn't expecting that one you said it was Cristiano Cristiano what's his name Ronaldo Cristiano Ronaldo Cristiano Cristiano is it Cristiano Cristiano what's his name Cristino Benzema why can't I think it was his name Cristiano Cristiano yeah Cristino well I get why you said that because obviously they all had Real Madrid shirts and it was a Saudi team well I didn't know that I was listening to the man next to me yeah saying they've got Real Madrid shirts that it must be Cristiano Cristiano Cristiano come on what I'm doing you alright babe oh god anyway it was Benzema Benzema and um yeah the kids obviously We were very excited to see him.

15:25Abbey Clancy: I've never seen, I've never heard of him. He's top class. You know the one, you used to have to think, believe it or not, I've got a way of knowing, you know who he is, and it's to do with Roman Kemp. What? Roman Kemp came to the Champions League final when I was working for TNT, and he was in the party, I think, after, and he still had a, that, bandage? Wrap around, a bandage around his hand, and you were like, why has he got that? And he said, because my favourite player is Benzema and he wears that and he played in the Champions League final against Liverpool. No. Clearly she was pissed. Yeah, well, she was fucking rat-ass.

16:02I had to keep her away from all the lads.

16:04Abbey Clancy: Was I at the game? Remember that day when you had a few beers with your dad during the day? And you were singing the other day. No, that was a different time. No, it was that time. It was that time. Yeah. Liverpool versus Real Madrid in the Champions League final. In Paris? In Paris, yeah. And I've had quite a long day. Liverpool! Liverpool are the best. That's what she was singing to. Glenn Hoddle in the lift. Yeah, that was a Glenn Hoddle. Yeah. God, I was sheepish. Liverpool, Liverpool are the best. Didn't you get someone else's name mixed up as well? And you're like, are you, all right, so you're next to it.

16:36It was more of them or something like that.

16:38Abbey Clancy: God knows. Probably. It's a little old day for you. But the thing is, I had a great day. You did have a great day. And you're doing what every other Liverpool fan was doing. That Jake Humphries went to me, didn't he, the next morning. Have a good night last night. Oh, have you got zero recollection? shut up Jake I was performing highly Jake I was at an optimal level look I don't think drinking too much and being a complete fool is the way forward but you know it happened that day but we're gonna do it anyway but I'm gonna do it anyway I'm gonna do it anyway

17:18that is top level I love that one Yeah, me too. We're going to do it anyway. He's good, like Barry. Okay, I've been chatting to a guy on Hinge, and we've finally gone on a date after a month of texting. He turned up in a baseball cap, which I thought was a bit casual, until he took it off halfway through the night, and I realised he was basically bald. Not just thinning, completely gone.

17:41Abbey Clancy: I don't know how I feel about that. Some men look great with it, don't they? Vin Diesel? Yeah, famously. Now, I don't mind baldness at all, but I felt like a catfish moment. Like if I turned up with brown hair after having... Catfish? That's what you said. Catfish. Catfish. Catfish. Sorry, nicely done. If I turned up with brown hair, having blonde hair in my pics, I'd be cancelled. No, she wouldn't, and a man wouldn't notice. Do I call him out, or is this just part of modern dating now? Love, hat-fished. Oh, hat-fished. So what we need to determine is whether or not he had a full head of hair on the photo.

18:22Abbey Clancy: Because if he... He could be wearing caps in the photo, couldn't he? Yeah, because if he did have a full head of hair and he turned up... But the thing, what are you going to say to someone? Mate, you're bald now. Like, you just couldn't possibly... That would hurt someone's feelings. Yeah, it's too hard. Like, it's a completely different scenario if a girl was once blonde and then dyed a hair brunette, I feel. What do you think? I think you can say, but you've got to have to say... If you were expecting a fit blonde and a fit brunette to end up, would you go, you're a disgrace, you've catfished me.

18:53Abbey Clancy: You're supposed to be blonde. Yeah. Yeah, I'm fucking laughing. Exactly. Yeah, sorry. That's what I mean, but you could... No, but your hair, in my opinion, your hair colour doesn't change as much as your hair. Like, if I turned up in a beard that had a buzz cut, I'd be happy. Yeah, but I think, like, in all honesty, he can't do a lot about it, can he? And, you know, he might have taken... Well, he could get to that KSL. He could get to that KSL, KSL, Klinex, yeah. No, but he could also just put a picture online of him bald, so she knows what she's expecting.

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19:54What do you think? Well, I think he's probably going through it at the dinner table, he's probably thinking this date's going great, I've got my cap on because I know that I've, you know, I've put loads, all my pictures I've got hair on. So he's at first trying to hide it, he's trying to ease it in. Then she's going, he's probably thinking, I'll impress her. it's going really well the date's going really well and he's gone right I'm going for it bang and she's gone penned an email straight away she's gone to the toilet she's right she might believe this therapy trap

20:28Abbey Clancy: it's awful though isn't it it's awful it's sad no but she might find them attractive but she might I think it's just I think you can make a joke out of it I wouldn't go oh you baldy but I'd be like yeah but if she liked him that much she probably wouldn't it wouldn't be an issue you'd notice yeah I'm just trying to think if there's any bald men I fancy I just think you know there's too much riding on us having hair apart from you

20:53I love your hair I think your hair is looking smart I was thinking of getting a similar haircut too the other day I've just been growing it it looks good I've just let it let it be wild the Alperson sausage it out I thought won her last hurrah I think it was actually Abby that said come on you might as well

21:12Abbey Clancy: no I didn't I said it looks gorgeous Throw it. Yeah, well. I think you look good. And I don't think for this fella, it's the be all and end all. Maybe it'll get on. Mate, there's a few out there that like baldies. There is. Right, sir, Fred. That was a big thing in like the early 90s, wasn't there? Bold, bold fellas. He's in now. Is that a good actor? He's bald. He's quite dishy. Oh, Mark Strong. Yeah, I love him. Is that him? Bruce Willis as well. Bruce Willis. Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel, yeah. There's loads of good... Statham. Jason Statham. Yeah. You know? My dad. Yeah. He's a handsome guy. You can look good.

21:47You can. There's no denying it.

21:49Abbey Clancy: So men rock it? Yeah. Yeah, stick with him, love. I always forget that guy's name, that Mark Strong. I don't know how I got that so quick. I think it's because we've talked about him so much and we like him in films. We have. You have. You have. We talk about him all the time. Oh, my God. We do, yeah. A subliminal crush. Yeah. Yeah, well, I don't think he's much subliminal about it. He just barely told me. He's Dishy, isn't he? No, we don't fancy him, but I just think he's a fabulous actor. I like the films he's in. Yeah, he's fabulous in every film. He's in that recent one. Is he the one of the guy in the film?

22:30Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, hi, Abby, Pete and Ross. Okay, big drama in my house. My girlfriend and I have just moved in together and had our first domestic over a spag bol. I made a polonaise with Dormeo. Dormeo. And she looked at me like I committed a war crime. Yeah, too right. Currently, we now only make sauce from scratch.

22:50Abbey Clancy: Absolutely. I love her. Especially Spag Bar. I love her, but I'm not slow roasting tomatoes on a Tuesday. Is this normal cohabiting teething stuff, or am I dating a middle-class Gordon Ramsay? Help. Great. That's a great message. Dull me I was fine on a Tuesday. I don't care what you say. if you've got time on a Saturday afternoon like I grew up on them Uncle Ben's sweet and sour jars oh yeah big time on the curry one mmm yeah that reminds me I feel like chicken tonight like chicken tonight not a problem not a problem but because especially if you're like busy and you've got loads if you've got loads of kids and you've got a job you know just whack them in a bit of chicken I'll be honest with you like obviously when I or Ben's your uncle fucking go ahead that's class that's class fantastic love it well I don't think we can say any more on that subject apart from Ben's your uncle but you know what another good thing to do is what my friend Riley does she batch cooks of a weekend so she'll make like a load of sauces like a ragui type thing what are you laughing at Uncle Ben's obviously yeah it was Uncle Ben's but I also thought Ben's your uncle and Betty's your uncle it's Fanny's your uncle and Bessie and Bessie sorry I thought it was funny

24:16what's their problem with like family members why does it have to be so family

24:21Abbey Clancy: because it's trying to make it home it's like oh it's your uncle Ben's recipe yeah it's like your aunt Bessie's recipe it's like dolmio isn't that like you know when did you have a dolmio date yeah wasn't she like that was on your own grandmother or dolmio remember that like puppet yeah puppet one I forgot about dolmio anything like that yeah which one was that it's like dolmios did like a puppet advert did they yeah for years like Sesame Street-y vibes yeah yeah yeah I used to love Sesame Street actually but I think it's good like you said on the weekend you do want an impression but if you could batch cook and then you put it in the freezer and then you've got the sauces even like meatballs and stuff like that and then just get it out and then just make boil the pasta and then heat that put that in the fridge in the morning defrost it and then you've got your if he's got a if she's got a problem with you know the jars you could do like a Sunday batch cook sesh with a nice bottle of wine.

25:12Just with regards to cohabiting as well, that's not going to be the end of it, mate. That's just a start, I'm afraid. A spag ball's quite a nice Asian-in argument. They've got to get worse than they need. Then there'll be everything you do. I'll just be the cooking. Why the fuck do you breathe like that? What the fuck are you breathing that way?

25:32Abbey Clancy: Put that tongue away. The fucking tongue when you're laughing. snocking me sick

25:42Abbey Clancy: but you said that can you stop talking please that's what you said to me that's what Pete said to me can you just stop talking so the day I got up all bright and breezy like right I'm going to the gym I'm going to do this and he went Abigail can you just stop talking I can't imagine him saying that I rated that you know what it was so it was really chilled it was just I was in bed yeah And she was up at seven in the morning and I didn't have to be up for anything. It was a very rare occasion. And I was just listening and she was just hitting me with jobs. I didn't even know my eyes. Fucking jobs.

26:23Abbey Clancy: Jobs I was going to do, not you're doing. And you were hitting me with like, you need to do that, you need to call him, you need to do that. And I was like, babe, please stop talking. Yeah. Just stop talking. So guess what I did? Just fucking carried on, Robert. No, stop talking to him for three days. No, I'm joking. Well, when she got home and I done a bowl of Dormino.

26:46Right, next one before I actually do stop talking to you.

26:53Abbey Clancy: Just imbecile. Funny one. Hi, Abby and P. I've been trying to be that girl lately. Green juice, early runs, no crisps before 10am. but now my boyfriend keeps making these little digs like oh are we drinking swan porter again oh wow you've changed he says it joking but i can feel the passive aggression oozing through why is it when you try to better yourself the people closest to you get weird about it do i keep spinning do i keep sipping my spinach smoothie or throw it or throw it at his xbox love emma well i thought you were doing a bit of that to me on holiday no it's only because I wanted my drinking partner with me a little bit but I wasn't putting you down I was proud like you go to the gym every day clean juices and stuff like that I was saying well done every day that wasn't true so I don't like people that do that I think yeah I think that's a bit muggy I'm not a fan of that at all like if people want to be better and healthier then I'm all for it but I did miss you in the evenings sometimes and I was like can't buy you and on holiday it's like you want to strike that balance don't you because you are quite active on your holidays because you've got the kids and you're active anyway.

28:04But you do want your drinking partner. But at home, nine to five, Monday to Friday, it's a difference, isn't it? Yeah.

28:11Abbey Clancy: I think that's what we should do in future. And me and Lucinda have made a pact. We're not going to drink unless we're going out or we have friends over for a dinner. Yeah, but that was you in the first place. I said that. I don't do that much, do I? Like at home. Sometimes. Only with you. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but I'd drink without you. You go solo and just go on the phone. Is that what I mean? Yeah. And I think that if you cut those ones out, then you could just wear a ton. Well, I have. When you go out for dinner or whatever, you can have a few drinks, can't you? And you just don't feel guilty about it.

28:42But coming back to this girl, I think she's well within the rights to be annoyed at him. Yeah. That's no good. And she's probably improving herself as well, also a bit for her fella, so she looks like good and feels confident and stuff like that.

28:53Abbey Clancy: I think she should just fuck him off. And he's fucking got an Xbox. He probably sounds like a knob. But also, you know, going back to Russell Kane's 5am Wanker Club if she's going very kind of you know I'm doing this I'm doing this you know and like you could be like oh fuck off don't get preachy with it love just do it don't get preachy with it if you want to do it do it that's fine I didn't preach to you at all did I? not at all you just went and did your thing I got up but to be fair we'd get up go to the gym and then get a cheese and ham toasty every day so it kind of you've earned it babe yeah defeated the object but you just can't resist them they are covered in the place aren't they heavy we'd share one yeah we did that one can't beat a cheese and I'm toasty you're working hard babe you did that every day and I really felt it on my legs today when I was riding even though I was really rubbish like my reins everywhere I couldn't I was really messy it was zero effort in my legs and I thought that's because I've been doing a lot of strength no it's good it's good and yeah listen do what you want to do and don't let people bring you down yeah haters gonna hate players gonna play shag call as they're gone call what did you say shag what I forgot the rest of that though haters I'm not doing this this is my ick this is my weekly wine to myself is that 3LW yeah yeah I thought it was 3LW I don't know what you're talking about it's a band what was that verse that you said then shag call as they're gonna call oh I thought you said shag something and players they're gonna play ballers they're gonna ball shout callers they're gonna call it ain't got nothing to do me and you it's the way it is that was good as well I need to stop breaking into song all the time I love you singing when I'm fucking approving these podcasts every two seconds I'm like just breaking into song it's such an ick I like it I like it But I forget that people actually listen to this drivel.

30:57Abbey Clancy: I think it's just us sitting here. Certainly not drivel. And your voice is fantastic. So obviously my guard is completely down and I forget that this goes out to the public. You should be singing more. I say that to you all the time. You've got a great voice. Right, last one here. So my boyfriend forgot my birthday. Oh, what a bastard. Not in a missed party kind of way. He literally didn't text until 6pm. Obviously he didn't miss your birthday. I mean he texted 6 that's basically missing it yeah why? he's texted on the right day it should be 6am it should be the first day yeah I agree I'm only winding you up but still are you Peter?

31:38are you? it was just happy B day babe was the text he said he had a stressful day at work and I've seen him set alarms for fantasy football transfers so spare me so do they live

31:53Abbey Clancy: with each other then or what it's been it's been three days and he still hasn't brought it up no card no effort nothing am I overreacting or is this emotional ick territory to be honest I think if you allow these things from the get go what you it's like you're training a dog it is if you allow these things if you allow him upstairs on your bed he'll keep coming up and you say no down down boy get in your basket sit turn down

32:27don't get a treat

32:31Abbey Clancy: no I mean if you because sometimes like in an early relationship people go oh I don't want to you know do this but if you let these things happen they're only going to get worse because at the start of a relationship that's when the most effort is made you know When I look back to the effort you used to make, my God. What do you mean you used to? Like, the stuff I've been doing for you recently. You were so romantic. Hang on, you got taken to Monkey Island the other weekend and you wrote a poem. I wrote you a poem. I had you down a thing, a surprise. I bought you a lovely... Thing. Bit of jewellery.

33:05Abbey Clancy: You did? We went on a romantic boat trip. No, I'm not saying it... I've done lots of... It doesn't mean materialistic, it's just... No, I'm talking about... I wrote you a poem that day. I bought you a lovely case of champagne that you wanted to save because you wanted to give it to presents for someone else

33:24Abbey Clancy: what case of champagne I didn't see that oh no the yeah no I didn't want to give them away I wanted to keep them I didn't want to drink them oh I thought you were going to wrap them up wink wink in case anyone's received a bottle of champagne from my no it was it was these special edition ones I didn't want to drink people said we'll bring these with us to drink and I was like no I don't want to drink them yeah i want to keep them yeah i just think you they quickly forgotten is the issue i've forgotten many things in our relationship but you on the other hand have forgotten some you've certainly never forgotten my birthday i admittedly forget our anniversary a lot because we're usually on holiday and when i'm on holiday i'm like i don't know what day it is yeah i do not look at a calendar because my whole life is spent looking at a calendar and schedule so I don't want to know what day it is what the date is so I often miss it but you never ever do but I've never ever forgotten your birthday your birthday is the biggest one you can't miss a birthday I don't think I miss everyone I miss yours didn't I no we had a barbecue did we?

34:29I think so anyway and also we're not going out with each other I think for your partner it's the first thing in the morning isn't it? yeah I think so and also happy B day that's lazy enough hey baby some flowers or something like that yeah like that's that's where the petrol station that's why they stock them but it's not in it the only reason like because if you're if you're thinking about it a couple of days in advance you're at the florist right full hammer but petrol stations have them for the way home men who forgot here's a bunch of flowers and some fire starters fire starters you know those kindling things they always have them outside oh yeah there's an air freshener

35:09Abbey Clancy: And a bit of blue stuff for your washer with a screen wiper. Yeah. Screen wiper. I noticed that was low, babe. No problem. And I whispered you, thank me later. Filled the car up as well.

35:25Abbey Clancy: I just don't think she's... I know you've got a long time. I think we'll just get her on tomorrow. I think she's within her rights to say, look, that's hurt my feelings and I won't tolerate that ever again. Yeah, good girl. yeah you nip that in the bud right now nip it in the bud yeah very good agreed okay well I felt like we helped today I've had a laugh there I had a laugh today hopefully everyone else did but I really dropped myself me too me too Uncle Ben's was a cracker that was very witty very funny I am quite witty you very much are right then piss off see you next week yeah see you next time

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From the publisher

On this week’s Ask Me Anything episode of The Therapy Crouch, Abbey and Pete are back from their holidays and deep in the DMs with your juiciest dilemmas. From catfish cap-gate to forgotten birthdays and passive-aggressive boyfriends, nothing is off limits.


Peter shares a supermarket encounter that turned from awkward to iconic, while Abbey confesses her struggle to stop singing mid-podcast. There's a hilarious deep-dive into sauce snobbery, an all-out war on Dolmio vs. homemade, and the tragic tale of a bald reveal gone wrong…


Expect laugh-out-loud moments, minor therapy breakthroughs, and a fair few embarrassing admissions. Oh, and you’ll never look at Uncle Ben’s the same again.


00:24 – Intro: “Ask Me Anything” kicks off

01:25 – Abbey and Peter’s iconic name mashups

03:06 – Abbey’s Sheffield stories and uni flashbacks

05:03 – Peter’s awkward fan encounter

07:02 – “I don’t like you…but I love your wife!”

10:15 – Abbey on not feeling worthy of fan pics

12:45 – Ben-ze-ma vs. Cristiano: Abbey’s football mix-up

17:10 – The bald cap date disaster

21:26 – Domino’s vs. scratch sauce

26:14 – “Swamp water” boyfriend drama

30:02 – He forgot her birthday… until 6 p.m.


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