#2899 RHOA S16E16: A Lot of Waffle Irons in the Fire

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2:24Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch Watch Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the wonderful and lovely Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how are you?

2:38Ronnie Karam: Well, hello, Ben.

2:42Ben Mandelker: Well, we made it. We made it through the Mountain Hysteria tour. Thank you to everyone who showed up both on Thursday, including Zach Wickham from the Valley and Hannah Ferrier. And Hannah Ferrier from Below Deck, Mediterranean. Yes. And Hannah. We had a tremendous show to close out the tour at the Fonda Theater. It was so fun. We had a great after party at the Kookaburra Lounge. And it was just a great way to go out with a bang with probably the best tour we've ever had. So thanks to everyone who supported us both that night and every night on this journey. It's been great. But now we get to relax and enjoy some nice time at home.

3:24Ben Mandelker: Just recap and shows. We just recorded a recap of Love Island. It's over on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Watch for Crappens. We recapped the past few episodes of that and lots of fun. Lots of hot takes. Loving that show. and also Patreon. You can watch Crappens on Demand where you can watch us, not just listen to us. Those videos are exclusively on Patreon for a week and then they're released on our YouTube channel. So go join us over there. But guess what? The tour's over. We've got nothing else to announce except we will be on Jeff Lewis tomorrow as well. So go listen to that because we love going on there and we always have a great time on Jeff Lewis's show.

4:02Ben Mandelker: So that's it today. It's Atlanta. Ronnie, thoughts? Feelings? Emotions? Atlanta!

4:07Ronnie Karam: It's almost over. Next week is it. Can you believe it? It's the big ending of Atlanta. Let's see where it goes.

4:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah, the big Atlanta finale is next week. So why don't we dive into last night's episode? We start off and Shamia is with her kids and Shamia's singing because she's still trying to make that pop career happen, so she will sing wherever she can, you know, make sure people are listening.

4:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's really going for it. She's singing with her kid. She's like, I know something's wrong, so I'm waiting for you with my... Okay, take it over, kid. And she's like, T-shirt on. I got your T-shirt on. Take off my clothes. You know what? I have to do laundry now because I'm already upset with you and now you're wearing my T-shirt. Now I'm going to have to launder that again. I only have so many T-shirts. Get out of my clothes. Yeah, yeah. That's going to be my single. Stop Stop wearing my clothes, especially if I'm mad. It's bad. I'm going to make Bueller finish the song for me. What's the next line?

5:15Ronnie Karam: She's like, woof. That's all he does. That's all he adds. Yeah. He's just got a nice snore like he's doing right now. So the producer is like, why is your child's face so greased up? And she's like, well, when I was a child, my mom greased my face up. And look, I have perfect skin. Okay? I can leave the house without foundation. That's why. I keep my kids greased up. Grease up your children.

5:42Ben Mandelker: I don't know. I feel like there are a lot of people, especially on this show, who could probably leave the house without foundation. And they probably did not have their faces greased up. I mean, look, do what you want to do. But there's a lot of it. I actually never even noticed that she was so greased up. And now that they've said it, I can't stop looking. I'm like, oh, my God. She is greased up. I love that. The stuff your mom does to you.

6:05Ronnie Karam: My mom was the opposite. She's like, you know what you should do? Go outside and stay in the sun with nothing on your skin. That's what we do in the 70s and the 80s. That's how the moms were. They were like, yeah, son, I love sun. They're like, we should be out. Sun's good for you. You need to be in the sun eight hours a day. And now people my age are like, oh, my God, how do I inject salmon sperm into my face? Our mothers did that. So we should be grateful that Shamia is giving good advice to the children.

6:30Ben Mandelker: my brother was my skincare expert so when i hit puberty he was like okay this is what you have to do first you take sea breeze which i don't know if they even sell sea breeze anymore it's like an astringent it's like you take you put on a cotton ball and you you rub it on your face and then once you've done that you add clear a cell but the thing is that what i didn't know as a kid is that like the astringent takes off all the oil and then you're just basically open up your pores and just shoving clear a cell into it you use one or the other but you don't use both and so then I had terrible acne because you know I was following the dermatologist dermatological advice of my brother who was only it was also like didn't know what he was doing he was a teenager but the thing that's sad is that I just assumed oh that's how you do it and I did that until I was 30 and I had acne I had bad acne for like I would say a solid 17 years I just always had because then you have bad acne so you're like oh I gotta do more of it so it's like more stringent more clear.

7:25Ben Mandelker: So, so yeah, I, I had a whole different skincare journey.

7:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah. We didn't have TikTok back then to teach us, you know, we have like, I had a Lebanese grandfather and my Jiddi and he would just say, you have a pimple, put toothpaste on it. So I would put toothpaste and it actually worked. And then his other thing was, if you feel sick, drink Listerine, trust me. And so we've been doing that in my, we still do that in my family. You drink it. You don't just gargle it. You drink it. Yeah, you drink it because supposedly the alcohol or whatever there is in there, if it kills germs in your mouth, I guess his thinking was if it kills germs in your mouth, it'll kill germs in your body.

8:02Ronnie Karam: And so we still do. I don't know if it works. I'm sure it doesn't. I'll probably die. But, you know, I don't have any zits. That's good. Well, it feels. Thanks, Jiddu. Yeah.

8:14Ben Mandelker: Look at these little remedies.

8:16Ronnie Karam: Speaking of doctor remedies, they're in the doctor's office for Shiloh. So everything, Shiloh gets a good, you know. She's prognosis. She's like, well, yeah, prognosis. The doctor's like, Shiloh did great. I held her. I accidentally dropped her on the floor because she was greased up. So you probably should warn me next time you have me a child that you've covered in grease. But otherwise, she's got a cast on now. But otherwise, she's doing great. And then the doctor goes, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the doctor goes, she's doing great. This time. I was like, damn, this is a threatening doctor.

8:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because there was, because Shamia had strep throat and she was afraid that Shiloh was going to get strep throat. And then Shiloh was, but then she's like, maybe I got it from Shiloh. It's the sort of conversation you have with someone when you meet them for coffee. Like, how's it going? Oh, well, I think I had strep throat. And I was worried I gave it to my daughter, but it turns out I didn't have it. That's the sort of like level of this sort of storyline. but it's being elevated to full on a story for Shamia. Like, okay, cool. Love it. Very exciting stuff.

9:25Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then we go over to Phaedra's house and the storyline is for you. I feel like the producers are giving this to you because you've always loved Phaedra's kids. And now one of them is at a sewing machine. He's living the journey, man. It's like, he doesn't even know you and he's following after his auntie.

9:42Ben Mandelker: He, he really is. And I didn't, I was like, I don't want to be the annoying person. who's like, oh my God, he's sewing just like me. Because the thing is like, I sew, but I don't, they're like, there are, I guarantee there are people in our audience that sew way more than I do. And I, I'm not going to act like I'm someone who's like sewing every single weekend, yada, yada, yada. But when I did see it, I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. I was like proud of the little guy. And honestly, I was massively impressed. I mean, this kid, this kid has more fashion sense than almost anyone on Bravo. He was in his little outfit.

10:14Ben Mandelker: I was like, oh my God, he's so stylish and he made these pants and they were the pants were good and like Phaedra has like I got him a fashion mentor I was like that's actually super cool like that's awesome that Phaedra did that like that is very impressive and he is so talented and then Aiden's there and Aiden's 14 and it's just like it was a lot to take in like these kids are great it was

10:36Ronnie Karam: pretty cute and Aiden's already you know planning on just living off this kid for the rest of his life. He's like, I'll be your manager. That's my talent. So whatever you do, I'll just take some money off the top. You get 1.5 % of whatever I do. You little bastard. And Phaedra talks about, you know, well, I'm doing this for my children because I believe in entrepreneurship. You know, I'm a funeral director, a Reiki healer. What else is she? She's got a lot of stuff going on. Lawyer, jazer-sizist, donkey booty enthusiast was she donkey booty she was donkey booty right she was donkey booty

11:18Ben Mandelker: because can you try to do stallion booty yeah yeah yeah so yeah she does all this stuff and um then dylan is uh like basically she's grooming these kids to like start like a fashion imprint dylan will be the designer and um what's his face will aiden will be like the business manager and um yeah she wants them to be like little gentlemen and she's like i want them to understand integrity and work ethic which is why they're not allowed to watch this show yeah and it started or being your juice era it started because um of phaedrus telling us dylan

11:56Ronnie Karam: loves fashion and he wanted bell-bottom pants and i said they don't even sell those anymore because they're so hideous but if you can make them and he did and so i bought him a factory in asia somewhere and we put their children to work as well i believe in child labor which i do too you know i'm a huge fan of child labor so i'm i love the storyline i think it's great yeah so he like

12:20Ben Mandelker: she got him a sewing machine and he started sewing and he like took to it and now he just like sews and he has a guy who stands over him with like a little tape measure around his neck but he makes like legitimate pants and he like his little outfit he looked like he was a project runway contestant because he was wearing the sort of outfit that like a project runway uh contestant would wear i was like this is wild i didn't even know children could be this fashionable

12:42Ronnie Karam: yeah um and then um she announces that she's going to tie this in with her own fashion thing because of course she's got fashion she's like you can come to the vault you know we've got all the furs while we're talking about child labor let me also just talk about how much i love selling fur from animals. I'm just really trying to win America back as much as I can. I'm just going to put as much problematic shit as I can into this scene.

13:09Ben Mandelker: If this little boy manages to get a fashion label up faster than Sharae Woodfield, I will laugh. Because he will. This will happen much faster. Sharae's fashion label is still just t-shirts with her taglines on it. It's just zazzle, basically.

13:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So she's going to have this fashion show and invite the ladies. And she wants a pair of pants. And he's like, no, we're good. She's like, you're a hater. So then we go to Kelly. Guys, I don't know if you've heard about this. Kelly is getting divorced. Let's go to the Kelly countdown, divorce countdown.

13:49Ben Mandelker: Yes. So she's saying she has every single emotion going through her because this is their final court date of the divorce. This is it. This is the end. They will absolutely be divorced by the time she gets home today. And there's no way they won't be divorced. It is going to happen. Every financial matter, custody matter, division of assets and property. She is ready to restart her life and she will because the divorce is finally over.

14:17Ronnie Karam: Divorce isn't over, but you know what? At least we have a sprinter van. So it's a sprinter van for all of her team. Yeah, Kelly's. You know, one thing I think Britt was right about Kelly was like, why do you need the stylist, like line of people everywhere you go? It does get a little much like I'm going to court. So I need a sprinter van with 10 people in it to get us all the court.

14:39Ben Mandelker: Is the court in Vail? Are you going on a real house? That's a Salt Lake City trip right now. Like, why are we in a sprinter van?

14:46Ronnie Karam: Yeah, this was the least fun, dramatic sprinter van trip we've had. Like, stop fucking with sprinter. Bravo is known for its Sprinter Van drama. You can't come on here with boring Sprinter Van shit. No. Okay? You're bringing down the show. I don't care what anybody says. That is my opinion. I think Kelly should leave. I think this Sprinter Van scene was the final nail in the coffin for me. Because I've been like, eh. I've been kind of like okay with Kelly. I really liked her at first. And I didn't really. And then I'm sick of her story. I'm sick of her wishy-washiness. But now you've ruined Sprinter Van scenes for Bravo.

15:21Ronnie Karam: And it's time to go.

15:23Ben Mandelker: yeah um that's a strong point that you make there um she she could have done more and i like that she goes to the courthouse and it's like cameras were not allowed into the courthouse i was like the audience didn't want to go in there anyway are we like you're not like don't act like you're like you're you're stopping the masses from watching the content that they've been yearning for and no one cares about this divorce okay just let us know when it's all over and she just gets

15:48Ronnie Karam: back in the sprinter van and she's like well that was a shit show um women on real house positive atlanta get better lawyers yeah i was just about to say this is the second time this season we had to see it with kenya all the time she had a shitty one too you all need better divorce lawyers because the men are getting away with way too much i don't even know what's going on in their marriage but i know that he got put right back in jail after this and you're still not able to nail that divorce down? Come on, man. Get a better lawyer. Get precious.

16:16Ben Mandelker: So apparently what happened was that they went over time and they only, like, they had to have everything finished by noon and they didn't, so they need to file a continuance, which means they're going to be doing more of this later. So then she's at home with Lamont, her publicist, and then someone rings the doorbell. So she's like, can you get that? I'm like, you get your door. But she's like, he's like, of course I'll do it. So Shamir comes in and And she's like, oh, my God, my little baby. And they're hugging her and everything. And then Angela calls.

16:52Ronnie Karam: So the girls are being super supportive of her and stuff. And then they start talking about how Britt has not called in even once. Even once. She might be out of minutes. I mean, this is Britt we're talking about. Are we sure her phone is turned on? The insurance companies

17:10Ben Mandelker: Have suspended my phone minutes Sorry

17:16Ronnie Karam: Angela asking about me being a whore As Cricket has cancelled my phone So I'm suing you for a 500 million dollars

17:29Ben Mandelker: And Then we see a montage of how Kelly Went out of her way to comfort Brit You know in the wake of the Kenya situation And now she's like well And now not a peep, not a call, not a flower, not a candle, not nothing. I'm like, if you're expecting more than like a paperclip and some Tic Tacs from this lady, good luck.

17:48Ronnie Karam: And you also just got in a big fight about a stylist. So, yeah, she's not going to call you. And they're also acting like they've always been best friends. You've been best friends for five minutes. This is like a Love Island friendship. But they're like, oh, my God, that's like my best friend. I can't believe she's treating me like that. You've known each other two weeks, ma 'ams. both ma 'am. And so they're making a big deal out of this because Brett is an asshole. And so then we see Cynthia. It's invite time because we're going to have a thing to do. So Cynthia has a little black box on her doorstep and she's like, Oh my God, what a gift.

18:26I can't wait to put this on my countertop.

18:30Ben Mandelker: Ah, throwback to the days when I was just hanging around a kitchen Island. Yes. Putting on the countertop. You are cordially invited. into the vault's black glove shopping affair. Phaedra, is this an event for buying black gloves or is that the branding? I'm a little confused.

18:48Ronnie Karam: Well, the Ivy Showroom is my best friend's shop. I'm her attorney and we have a side business together. Yes, Phaedra. I love that Phaedra's representing someone who probably was like, I don't have money to pay. And she's like, guess what? We're going to have an event at your shop. We're going to sell some furs. I'm going to launder it through the mortician business. everything's gonna be fine don't you worry yeah seriously and so everyone is trying on they're

19:14Ben Mandelker: trying to try on the gloves that came I guess with the gift and Phaedra's telling us the fashion is going to be exquisite faux furs real furs chinchillas chinchalas and t 'challa and it's going to be everything. Hamsters. Gerbils. Squirrels. Cassuary feathers.

19:38Ronnie Karam: I forget what they're called with those really long things that run all over people.

19:43Ben Mandelker: Verits. Weasels. Stut. What are they called? Stouts, not stouts.

19:52Ronnie Karam: Stars guards. The scars guard brothers.

19:57Ben Mandelker: Turtles.

20:01Ronnie Karam: so yeah it's gonna be a very high class event um and she's locking the doors if anyone's not on time because who's late to a fur event for a lawyer client that owes me why why are we locking the

20:16Ben Mandelker: doors why are we locking the doors on this fashion show especially if you're oh so we're gonna have a fashion show because we want to get word out about this fashion but if anyone's late we don't want to show them the fashion i'm like uh are you trying to publicize your shit or not okay so now um brit

20:33Ronnie Karam: is facetiming phaedra and you know she's accepting the invite okay so let's go to williams sonoma kelly's having an event guys because she's a cook and you can tell because she has her cooking book we haven't talked about this since we originally looked up her cooking book at the start of the season her book is called cooking with kelly and because kelly is spelled with a k she also spells cooking with a K, which is just like the dumbest ass marketing. Who let her do this? Oh, it's just stupid. No, it's not going to show up under any cookbook. People search for cookbooks with the C. Okay.

21:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I don't know why that's because it looks like it says cooking. And yeah, I don't know why it has to be spelled that way. However, I did like that she had her event at a Williams-Sonoma. Like that was actually very lovely. I was like, okay.

21:22Ronnie Karam: The synonyms hit everybody. William Sonoma was so grateful too. Everybody who came in, they're like, we are so grateful you're here. Thank you so much for coming to William Sonoma. Would you like to look at a$700 espresso machine?

21:34Ben Mandelker: No? Okay. Would you like to buy a spatula for$35? Okay, no. They, yeah, I mean, actually say what you will about Kelly, but this event is at William Sonoma and then she had an event at a Balmain. She's actually had like name brand locations as opposed to you know like well i don't brit hasn't brit rented out like a chair at a country club and then like wouldn't make people eat and she's doing like you know nice brands with her so you know team kelly on this one yeah yeah amen it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial you know those pieces in your closet ronnie that you find yourself wearing on repeat.

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25:13Ronnie Karam: So, Phaedra sees Charles with Angela, and she's like, oh, Charles, I haven't seen you in a million years. I heard you got married, so who'd you get married to? Me. He got married to me. Mm-mm. I didn't hear that one. No, no.

25:28Ben Mandelker: I've always known him to be a single man. But I heard you're cooking now. He's like, yes, I have. Yes, because apparently all of Atlanta has been fed by the corn cobs in your kitchen. So congratulations.

25:40Ronnie Karam: So Kelly's a brand partner with W.S. That's how I call Williams-Sonoma. Yeah, it's like huge. And this is her seventh event over there. Just like, I guess, great. So she welcomes everybody. and Kelly's like, yeah, you know, I just wanted to invite these three ladies who are here because it was just such a great bonding Grenada. I mean, we had so much fun. The first day we talked about how I can't wait to get divorced so I'm not divorced yet. And the second day we talked about how I'm not divorced yet. The third day I said I'm divorcing today and I wasn't divorced yet. So that was a good trip. So I'm hoping to make some divorce waffles.

26:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah, at long last, we're going to see Kelly make some waffles. It's only what we've been asking for all season. And by we, I mean, mainly me, I've been like, I want to see the waffles, but it's time. They're going to do, she can do a competition where Kelly versus Charles Oakley are going to make a waffle and the girls are going to, the rest of the women are going to judge it. So Kelly has brought a base waffle mix, which, well, I guess if she's selling the waffle mix fine, but I mean, lady, we need to see you make it from scratch. And she's going to do a banana Foster's topping for her waffle.

26:53Ben Mandelker: Okay. so she's going to work on that and then we see that Charles is going to do, he winds up doing ultimately like a fried chicken and waffle situation

27:03Ronnie Karam: yeah and so they do that and then, is this when the guy comes over? It's like just before that we see Charles having some you know, beautiful relationship stuff

27:18Ben Mandelker: and he's basically like, you don't know what you're doing in the kitchen and she's like, I know what I'm doing. He's like, well, you know how to walk around and into a kitchen?

27:27Ronnie Karam: She's like, why are you trying to make it sound like I don't know my way around the kitchen? He goes, you can walk around one. She just looks at the camera like, and my divorce storyline is next.

27:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So they are, Angela's asking like, so have you been Kelly since Grenada? How are you and Brit? And she's like, well, I guess kind of good. I haven't spoken with Brit since then. And Phaedra's like, but aren't you all best friends? She goes, well, we are very good best friends. Yes. Which is her way of saying, I fucking hate this bitch now.

28:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Phaedra, or Drew's like, um, something's not right in the waffle mix. Spill the tea. So now we're going to get the gossip. And Kelly's like, yeah, you know, I can't worry about it. I have to focus on me. So then Cynthia comes and she comes to Brit's because Brit has taken Phaedra's advice and she has decided to invite people over to her home. Yes.

28:29Ben Mandelker: And Cynthia's like, am I really in Brit's house? Have I made it to this house, honey? I'm actually just asking because it kind of just feels like it's the lobby of a hotel or a motel. I don't know. It doesn't really feel like a house. So Britt's like,

28:47Ben Mandelker: So she's invited over Cynthia and Portia, who are probably the only people who want to ever film with her now. And Portia is saying, I mean, I haven't slept since Grenada. When I knew that she was inviting me to her house, I was like, oh my God, this is the most secret invite I've ever received. Who could ever fall asleep with that with the excitement mounting?

29:09Ronnie Karam: and they have to go downstairs into like a different room because that's like her party basement or whatever and Portia's like we have to go there, my knees are gone from Grenada Cynthia's like well they should be you torqued them to death ponies so they go down and start drinking and gossiping and Portia's like yeah that trip was good everybody's on their good behavior and Britt's like well me and Kelly we've been having a little situation we've been utilizing the same team like hair makeup but then come to find out she told them that she doesn't want any of them to work with brands they're her team stop stealing everything you fucking steal or go find your own damn team

29:55Ben Mandelker: I like also what she's like I love when people like especially when dumb people try to sound like lawyers when they're in an argument with someone so they're like I'm gonna take the higher road and to take the higher road I'm gonna try to speak formally like a lawyer like so that's brit saying we've been utilizing the same team just say you've been using the same team you don't have to say utilizing because it doesn't even really feel the right that doesn't feel like the right use of utilizing we're utilizing the same team okay okay okay brit as brit brit ed attorney at law so she's like yeah like she felt like like she was getting the short end of the stick in bashville and they're like what what do you mean the short end of the stick you know you guys both look great that's what i said and then portia's like did she think your your outfits look better than hers or you were getting more of the

30:43Ronnie Karam: looks well this paris stylist who they're fighting about someone on twitter the jordan annalise said my theory is brit's money is funny and kelly knows she probably won't pay consistently and she doesn't want to mess up her established relationship with her glam team. And Paris writes, Brit pays well and promptly on time, despite what you may have seen on one episode. She's employed some of the best in ATL and never been an issue. She actually pays right before you leave her presence. That Apple pay goes straight through. Dun, dun, dun. Wow.

31:21Ben Mandelker: I can't believe a makeup person is being messy. It's just astounding. just inserting themselves in drama just to extend their three minutes of fame. I've just never seen that from a makeup person. It's crazy. They're just so normally discreet and just stay in the corners and they just want to come, do makeup and not try to further a relationship with the famous persons. That way they can have the spotlight. So this is just wild.

31:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And by the way, Paris is wearing like Linda Dano shoulder pads, like these huge shoulder pads and a feather thing in their Twitter. And it It says, while Kelly is, this isn't Paris, this is somebody, there's another tweet. It says, while Kelly is fake AF, why did Britt think it would go over well to have a staff meeting with people who are not a part of your official team? All that money and you can't get your own makeup artist at least? And Paris writes, but Kelly came to the meeting in the end drunk and Britt even Ubered her there. LOL. What does that mean? And yeah, and then someone, he liked a reply that says, because Kelly don't got the funds.

32:25Ronnie Karam: And Paris liked it. Dun, dun, dun. So was Kelly not paying Paris? What happened? Because I know Britt's probably not paying Paris. How's Britt getting this money? Britt doesn't have money either.

32:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, neither of them have money. I think all three of them don't have money, to be honest. Paris included. I guess Paris doesn't have to have money. Because Paris is the one who is like the servant. But neither of them have money. And Paris should just go chase after someone who actually has some funds to truly pay. because I guarantee you, Britt, whatever money he's saying that Britt is paying, that's going to drive very soon as well.

33:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and when you say go drum up someone with money, no one with money is going to want to work with you, your messy ass, criticizing someone who's supposed to be your client. So, good luck. Good luck, sir. And there's that. So now they're like, oh my God, you guys use the same stylist? And Cynthia says, you guys both looked amazing. God, do you remember that Hogs and Everest trip? You both looked insane. you both looked insane that's stylish should have been fired right then and there so portia's like is she upset that your outfits look better than hers or like you get more looks

33:36Ben Mandelker: like what's going on yeah and britney is like yeah well i don't know and kelly she basically says you know i was i was very disappointed when i got the call from the team of the glam squad the call from the team of the glam squad so brit i was utilizing the phone and i received a call from the team of the glam squad and they told me that Kelly doesn't want them to work with me. And Kelly's like, well, I absolutely told my styling team they could not work with her. If you have someone that is wanting every single person from your team down to your videographer, your photographer, your waffle iron greaser, your makeup artist, your stylist, your hairstylist, that shit's weird.

34:17Ben Mandelker: It's giving, I'm really not that girl.

34:20Ronnie Karam: And Portia's like, well, listen, number one rule for frickin' frag, I'm both frickin' and frack, okay? There can be no jealousy. Which is hilarious coming from Portia. And so Britt's like, well, the stylist can't work with me, but now they're working with Shamia. And everyone's like, what? Shamia? Shamia now has the stylist? Which, you know, you haven't loved Shamia styling either, so I don't know. I think Paris is bringing down this show.

34:48Ben Mandelker: I have not liked Shamia styling at all this season. It's very, very matronly to me. it's like very ant forward you know which is like fine because ants can be ants you know but if you're trying to be a pop star I'm like don't come out dressed like an ant they have a very successful movie

35:05Ronnie Karam: I really enjoyed ants I was like oh my god ants feel things

35:10Ben Mandelker: yeah I was I was really disappointed when I found out that was about insects and not about a bunch of people's ants I was like what I thought it was going to be like I thought it would be a movie where like ladies would drop by and then be like well it was great seeing you and then leave and you see them a few more months.

35:24Ronnie Karam: I think that's what this show should be. I think this show should turn over to aunties and it should be all the old cast members kind of coming back and it's about them, but they're kind of going to check in on the younger cast members. Like there's a whole other separate show going on and they just have to come in and mentor them a little bit.

35:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because truthfully this show is like we're really seeing some good chemistry with like Cynthia, Phaedra and Portia. Like every time they have a scene together like the show really comes to life. So I do feel like that. Like we should really focus on them and then add Angela too. The real aunties of Atlanta. The real aunt-lantas. Aunt-lanta.

36:03Ronnie Karam: So they're like, I thought you guys left and decided to be friends or whatever. And Britt's like, well, she said so many things. She showed me text messages between the two of you guys, Portia, that said you were dealing with your divorce and your attorney and you needed it with yourself. So I'm just sharing you with that that I've seen your messages. Oh yeah, you're a really good best friend. The second you get upset, you just go betray every damn thing. You're a terrible friend and you're a terrible person. Go away already. I'm tired of you.

36:35Ben Mandelker: Really an awful person. And Portia's like, what? And Britt's like, yeah, it's Mia's house. And then Portia's like, but there was chit-chat about me afterwards because she and I had a conversation, right? And Cynthia's like, but you guys left your conversation like a clean slate, like a smooth kitchen island, right? you didn't start over? She's like, well, now it sounds like it was broken. So Brit in an effort to like shit on her former best friend just because they're in like a stupid dust about makeup artist is now going to destroy another relationship because that's just the way she operates.

37:06Ronnie Karam: And Portia's saying, well, she's not even telling me what my attorney said. She's saying what I talked about with my therapist and that's not cool. So then we go back to Williams-Sonoma and they're still having this waffle competition or whatever. And then they're shit talking each other, Charles and Kelly. And then Angela's like, yeah, this is where she has the fight with Charles. Or she's like, don't pretend I can't. I don't know my way around the kitchen. He's like, you can walk around it. So now it's time to taste the waffles. And there's the banana foster topping. And Angela's like, wow, Kelly's has too many calories.

37:45Ronnie Karam: She loses. Get rid of her. But no, they don't. They like them both. They're really good.

37:51Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, I think that they basically liked Charles's more, but they wanted to be loyal to their girl. So they were because they were like with Charles. They were like, oh, my God, this took me to my grandma's house. This took me home. Oh, my God. There was something. Oh, and Kelly, yours was really nice, too. Huh? I guess it was a tie. Like, no, you guys like Charles's more.

38:12Ronnie Karam: Yeah. It's because Kelly spells cooking with a K. I don't trust her waffles. She's like, does anybody want a coughle? like gobble so um they decide it's gonna be a tie and then a guy comes over a messy queen comes over and he comes a messy queen that a messy queen that no one would be there despite him already having a microphone on that was crazy yeah he came with his own microphone he's like hi love the coughle by the way but um so angela i don't think you know me but i know your husband He's come to my restaurant. And I would like for us to talk just alone so I can tell you something you might not know.

38:54Ronnie Karam: Something she might know about her husband. I need to talk to her about her husband, everybody. And she's like, go away. Who the fuck is this person? And who gave him the license to come speak to me?

39:06Ben Mandelker: But I know something about your husband. This reminds me of the gay that went up to Quad at that party and was like, oh, Lisa's husband is gay. and I slept with him or whatever it was. But that was like an obvious setup by Quad, right? So Angela's like, I don't know who this is. Why are you talking to me? You mincing gossip. So Patron's like, what the hell was that about? She's like, I don't know. I have no idea. So they're all kind of like, what was that? Who was that thirsty queen who came in and tried to stir stuff up?

39:42Ronnie Karam: It's such sloppy producing and it's so sad that they're trying this at the very last inning of the show, trying to make something happen. It's just bad producing. Who produced this season? Is this another, is this like one of the bad producers from Potomac or something? Is it Eric Fuller again? Is that what his name is? Eric Fuller? Let's see. I'll look for it later. I've said it before. This is just some shoddy ass producing. Put a mic on some queen from a restaurant, have them come up to you at a waffle event at Williams-Sonoma. Like, come on, guys. Make an effort. And I love that Angela is such a pro already.

40:16Ronnie Karam: It's season one. And she's like, no, no producers. I will not. I will not do this with you.

40:23Ben Mandelker: Thank you. Yeah. Well, you know, I have my ongoing theory that I've said many times. But you know what? Why not say it again? Is that whenever there's a casting change midseason or right before season begins, it fucks up everything. And we see it with this season, which is that it was really strong in the beginning. and then it sort of like lost its way a bit post kenya moore leaving and now they're sort of scrambling to sort of like fix it they added phaedra in they're sort of like throwing that the vacation nothing really happened on the vacation that was terribly interesting so like okay well we need to still like get this get this ending to do something so like here let's throw in this gay who has some sort of gossip and like let's go for it and like you know this was not spontaneous because it just so happens that like the other ladies are sitting there just hanging out doing nothing waiting for phaedra to call afterwards to gossip about this so it's just so

41:18Ronnie Karam: ham-fisted it's just not subtle it's very bad work very bad work and charles ignores it i don't know if charles didn't hear it or if he just doesn't care and he's not going to play into this nonsense because every time charles agrees to show up they try and bring him to some mess and he's just not having it so he's ignoring it and then kelly's like okay well let's just have a toast then so we're both winners um but let's give it up for mr oakley though for being here so um he is talking to the gm of the store who's like oh my god you are amazing thank you so much for being here please please do you know anybody that might want a mortar and pestle for 700 would you like a

42:00Ben Mandelker: mixing bowl made of copper that's three thousand dollars please i actually would do you have one oh actually we don't have any in stock if you wait i will order it for you if you want to come

42:09Ronnie Karam: back in 10 days so kelly comes over and she's cheering and mark cheersing and marcus the gay is there so he's like well i've got a cheers for us and he's kind of being held back right isn't

42:22Ben Mandelker: he like kind of behind the group no point well he's like with a group of gays and he's like near them and he's like cheers if your name is angela and your husband's cheating on you i was like okay you're just bad at this like there's a way to be there's a way to be a messy gay on the on this show or on these shows and you're not doing it right you're the worst you are the worst of us

42:43Ronnie Karam: please sit down you're embarrassing this is still pride month that i had to watch yes

42:49Ben Mandelker: have some have some so charles is like whatever he's just like making more waffles charles is in He's focused. He's like, wait a second. I only made three waffles. That's not enough. I need to make$5 ,000. So he's like in the mass cooking moment right now. You're right. He just never stops cooking. It's so funny. He's like, it's over, Charles.

43:11Ronnie Karam: He's like, this is my Brussels sprout waffle.

43:14Ben Mandelker: Here's a corn on the cob waffle. Like, what? Must keep cooking.

43:18Ronnie Karam: And Pager's like, honey, I don't know if the steam from the chicken is clouding his ears, but he does not hear or is not planning on responding.

43:27Ben Mandelker: So Kelly basically, she overhears the gay being messy and she just has her security guard kick the guy out, which was good. She did the right thing. And she's like, I'm not going to be doing this. So then the producer says, you know, is there any part of you that believes that Charles might be currently stepping out on Angela? And Phaedra's like, I don't know what Charles is doing. I have no idea, but it's not, it's not against my religion to be, it's against my religion to be people's business, honey. Which is funny because Phaedra is the biggest gossip and she literally goes and gossips to all the other women in like five seconds.

44:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Angela's like, whatever. I mean, I'm afraid to even bring stuff to him because he's a pit bull and he'll tear his ass up. And since Madison Square Garden, he's been extremely calm. But baby, he does not play when it comes to disrespect. Unless it's me. Which is just our love language.

44:22Ben Mandelker: yeah and kelly is like i don't know where this guy came from but he was no friend to me and me and angela might not be the best the best but i do not do disrespect so meanwhile uh over at uh brit's house mimosa is just like humping a uh like relentlessly a leg and then a pillow and then another pillow like mimosa is mimosa's ready to go mimosa's a one horny dog that dog

44:45Ronnie Karam: is helping everything. And so Portia, of course, gets a call from Phaedra. So she's like, ooh, ma, just hold on to your panties. Big tea coming. By the way, have you ever had a Brussels sprout in something called a coffle?

45:03Ben Mandelker: I also like when Phaedra calls up. She goes, and Portia goes, ah.

45:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, people can say whatever they want but this show really does come to life every time they're talking to each other because i was cracking up so she's like we are at strawberry shortcake's little cooking debut and girl some man comes up saying that he had a word for angela your husband is cheating and they're like no way no way he's only the 19th person this season to say it who said that portia's like so what did

45:38Ben Mandelker: angela say well she was visibly shaken by it uh although it could have just been the waffle that her husband made for her that was made of Brussels sprouts and corn and she was trying not to vomit. But Charles was looking right in front of him. And so Portia's like, oh, I knew he threw that pot of rice on his ass. Yeah. They're like, oh my God, I can't believe this. Yeah. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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49:14Ronnie Karam: So now it's time for Phaedra's event. And there's a model there. Phaedra sees a model. She's like, oh, my favorite little model. Hot chocolate.

49:26Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's the Black Glove Shopping Affair. And they're setting it up and everything. And Phaedra says she wants the ladies to show up on time because this is not a private event just for them. She has other very important guests coming. And when we put on a show, we really show out. So because it's such a public event, we are going to lock out the public.

49:47Ronnie Karam: I have people so important here that I'm locking the door. And if one of them is late, they're not getting in. Important people are late. So. Yes. So Portia isn't coming because her cousin Londi died, which is so sad.

50:04Ben Mandelker: So sad. I forgot about this. I know. yeah it's a bummer that's really so sad so she she tells uh phaedra this and you know she eulogizes her and says that she was such a loyal person and she's the most creative in the company and she did a lot for her grandfather's foundation and just so honest and we see some clips of londi throughout the years including this season um i totally forgot about this and so heartbreaking so she's not going to come to this event but the event will go on and go forward

50:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so people start arriving, and Kelly, you know, Kelly's like, wow, cute little showroom. Yeah, I've rented pieces before. Like, they'll love it. They love it. So the girls start coming in, and Cynthia's like, did you book models, or is this a Porsche shoot where we're the models, and we don't know about it? Then we have to re-gram it on our own grams for zero dollars.

51:00Ben Mandelker: What are we doing today? Yeah. and then um shimmy as i talking to the security guard she's like are we safe are we safe kenny are we safe and he's like yeah we're safe she's like okay good so just like more people are just like showing up it's a lot of like hey you know also angela showed up with security because

51:17Ronnie Karam: they're like wait a minute do you have cynthia's like do you have security shimmy is that your security guard she's like no everybody else has it why would i even need to bring mine half this

51:26Ben Mandelker: couch is security guards now geez and they're asking angela again about the guy and she's like she's like yeah you know he initially came up to me and he's like i want to speak to you and i want to tell you something about your husband and cynthia's like and you did not know who this person was she's like well i don't know him from i don't know bucket of paint bucket of paint yeah

51:49Ronnie Karam: sure so then brit tries to make a big entrance they're saying um hi hi kelly oh kelly's not talking to me. Hi, Kelly.

52:03Ben Mandelker: And Kelly's saying, you know, he went through a whole little situation with Kenya, and I brought a whole IV therapist for you and for Mike, and you're not bringing flowers or dinner over to my house, not even some of my own waffle mix. You could have bought it and given it back to me. You're not even there checking on me and the girls and all of this all over again. That's not my friend.

52:22Ronnie Karam: So Angela's like, um, excuse me, we're in the middle of a very interesting story here. And Brit's like, well, I'm going to have a lot of stories to tell, I guess. And Kelly's like, yeah, I can't wait to have story time. So now these two are going to try and have like a big housewives blowout. Multiple.

52:41Ben Mandelker: So now Brit has her grievance to tell us about.

52:43Ronnie Karam: She goes, I'm really disappointed on Kelly because it really didn't have to get to this point.

52:48Ben Mandelker: If Kelly would have came to me and confided how she was initially feeling about her glam spot or whatever, we could have talked it out. But she She's now a fucking hater, so it is what it is.

53:00Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Phaedra goes to lock the doors. So no one is leaving this chinchilla event.

53:07Ben Mandelker: By the way, didn't Kelly keep this pretty private? I feel like Kelly has not been airing the Glam Squad beef very much. She's been annoyed at Brit for a few episodes now, and she's kind of kept it quiet. Yeah, Brit keeps bringing it up. Yeah.

53:22Ronnie Karam: I got the sense that it was discussed kind of privately. but I think she means she needed to talk to me and say she doesn't want me using her hairstylist instead of calling the glam team meeting and say I don't saying it you know she's like why don't she come to me instead of going to the glam squad well why don't you go to her to say that you were upset about her not coming to you you're both exhausting and boring so they're gonna have their first housewives fight and it's kind of failing so Phaedra starts the show and so Drew's running late and she's like she better get here because the doors will be locked so then kelly continues the fight and she's like okay well you know i had opened my event to the public and with that come fans and people and just random people that rsvp to come so i did not invite this person that started shit with you angela and she's like well i did my own research to find out who he was because people do not play with me or my husband and they decided to pay him a little visit and i found out that he was paid to be there.

54:23Ronnie Karam: Dun, dun, dun.

54:25Ben Mandelker: Angela's saying she did her research. She basically asked the producer, like, who was that person? Did you guys plant this person? And like, yeah, we paid him. We paid him to be on the show.

54:32Ronnie Karam: That's what it sounds like, right? I mean, who would pay somebody to do this? This is crazy.

54:37Ben Mandelker: She even cares about that much. A shadow conspiracy where there's like someone else who's like hired the gay to do the dirty work. Yeah. It's very involved. So, Angela is like, we are not the people to play with. And the producer's like, so are you like tied to the mob? She's like, no, I'm not tied to the mob. We're just tied to people who care about us deeply. That's all. Just people who just really enjoy a lot of corn on the cob.

55:04Ronnie Karam: So now we have a mystery. Who paid this person to confront Charles at a Williams-Sonoma waffle event? All right, I got a package of money here. Here's where the drop is. You're going to go to a place called Williams-Sonoma. All right. They're going to have really expensive ladles. Ignore those. Get the package. Get the package in. Do not get intercepted by the waffle security.

55:32Ben Mandelker: Now the question is this in Sonoma actually or is it just called Sonoma? It's called it. Go. so Phaedra the thing is going to start so Drew arrives 15 minutes late and she's like locked outside of this like upstairs of this like strip mall she's standing there they're all dressed up and like on the outside it's like this rinky dink place so she's like okay well okay well there was so much traffic I mean I said there was like traffic I mean is there like an official here is it the president I mean there's so much going on and she shows us that she did in fact take a video showing that there was traffic which which looked like there was a lot of traffic.

56:09Ben Mandelker: Although, you know, as someone who has himself gotten into traffic and has shown up a little late to things, you know the truth, which is you can always look to see what the traffic is before you leave and plan for it. So, sorry, Drew. The video does not help your case.

56:25Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and you're in Atlanta, which always has traffic, which you yourself just said. But it's still funny. And she's so used to being disrespected by this cast, honestly, that she's just like, whatever. I'll just hang out here. She just makes the most of her scene being in the hallway. She's like, oh, my God, does that security guard have chicken? Is that chicken down there? And he brings her up chicken. She's like, oh, this is where the real party is up here.

56:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she doesn't even bother having like a diva storm out moment. Like, I can't believe it. She's just like, no, I know there's more free food inside, so I'm just going to wait. I will wait 45 minutes.

57:02Ronnie Karam: So now, Drew, let's see. Kelly and Cynthia and all those guys so Drew, sorry, let me skip Drew, so Cynthia's like well it's interesting that that guy would take time out of his busy schedule to come be at little old Kelly's event and Kelly's like yeah who would pay him you know maybe the people that don't show up are the ones that did it insinuating maybe it's Britt because Britt had people to her house that day so maybe Britt's the one that paid him to show up Britt's not even paying, Britt doesn't pay for anything she won't even pay for a chicken meal at her country club.

57:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Britt is not paying for that. So then Britt is like well we were all at my house if that's what you're implying. And Kelly is like wait a second. Britt let you guys into her house? And they're like yeah. And Cynthia's like yeah and Portia too. Because oh my gosh she let Portia into her house finally. Britt's like yeah I did. And you know what you can address me. I know that's kind of difficult sometimes but you can

58:03Ronnie Karam: address me. She's like, well, I'm so proud of you. I mean, it's not really difficult. Britt's like, um, it seems like it is. You don't have to be passive aggressive. Oh, I'm not passive. I'm aggressive. Oh, well, I've never seen you aggressive. Don't play with me, Britt. Yeah, don't play with me.

58:23Ben Mandelker: Britt loves calling people passive aggressive when she herself is the most passive aggressive. Hmm, seems a little passive aggressive. Well, you realize you're saying that passive aggressively yourself. so Cynthia's like okay okay okay you guys can have that conversation later we are here to watch the photographer who did Nini's headshots 10 years ago walk in a fashion show okay?

58:43Ronnie Karam: so then they just start nonsense fighting which is my favorite when Britt's like why are you the big bad wolf and she goes oh yeah I'm the mighty wolf have you read that story? the waffle wolf

58:58Ben Mandelker: no you're not it's a persona that wolf is a persona like yes of course what you think she's literally a wolf of course if you say i'm a mighty wolf of course you're saying your persona is a mighty wolf you're not saying i'm literally a mighty wolf like that's what surprise i have four legs and a tail now you're

59:13Ronnie Karam: not literally a wolf so kelly's like oh i'm insecure and britt's like oh she wants an audience oh my god you two are trying so hard it's so awkward to watch i'm cringing watching this so they're trying to have this big fight and so kelly's like um oh well you want to use my team It's like, oh, the team that you begged for me to work with because you need a sidekick.

59:35Ben Mandelker: I hate to tell you this. If someone is begging for you to work with a stylist, it means that you look crazy. Someone's like, please. You need to buy a belt.

59:43Ronnie Karam: You know what I mean? My family's always begging me because my pants are always falling down. Get a stylist, please. I'm like, or a belt.

59:51Ben Mandelker: You know? It means that you probably go out looking like Jackie Goldschneider's mom. Remember? Jackie Goldschneider's like, mom, I need to get you a makeover. You cannot go in public looking like this anymore. It's like, you know what? I don't need to brush my hair. I don't want to. I've earned it.

1:00:05Ronnie Karam: So Britt says that Kelly was feeling insecure because she was second in Nashville when it was her entire idea to share a glam squad. Listen, she helped you out. She loaned you the glam squad. And then you came in and tried to steal the glam squad.

1:00:18Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And what does this mean? She looked second in Nashville. I mean, they showed people walking in some sort of... I guess that was a competition when they were walking on a runway or whatever in Nashville. I don't know. This seems like a very tenuous claim by Brit Eadie. Yeah.

1:00:33Ronnie Karam: So Kelly is like, well, you better talk to your motherfucking roommate. And you better talk to your pill-popping roommate. And she's like, oh, my God, girl, you're so cute. And Cynthia's like, oh, not pill-popping roommate. Because she's telling Cynthia to talk to your roommate because they shared the room or whatever.

1:00:50Ben Mandelker: Yeah. and then um oh i thought the roommate thing was like your like your husband's just like a roommate

1:00:56Ronnie Karam: like whatever oh oh because i could be wrong who did cynthia room with in that trip i already forgot this just trying i have to be honest i forgot who she was rooming with was it brit i don't i don't know it was then like who it was drew yeah so i guess she must have been talking about

1:01:18Ben Mandelker: the man yeah you're right because like who but i don't know she just says pill popping roommate i don't really even understand the context we just know that it was a burn yeah so shami is like wow

1:01:29Ronnie Karam: i didn't see this coming but she's like bored she's like okay whatever so uh phaedra's like wow she just offered me a little advil pm i mean i didn't get the propofol michael jackson special

1:01:41Ben Mandelker: so maybe it wasn't the husband i don't know what was really happening someone had pills but there's

1:01:46Ronnie Karam: an accusation that she's a pill popper.

1:01:49Ben Mandelker: So then Britt's like... Oh, maybe Kelly wasn't talking to Britt. Maybe Kelly was talking to Phaedra and said, you better talk to your roommate. Phaedra was roommates with Britt, and she's saying Britt is the pill popper.

1:02:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's saying Britt's the pill popper. I know that much.

1:02:04Ben Mandelker: We're really on top of it.

1:02:05Ronnie Karam: Because Britt's like, oh, yeah, I'm just like this show. I'm like, okay, just end it. For fuck's sake.

1:02:10Ben Mandelker: Go back to Williams-Sonoma. We don't need a full season.

1:02:12Ronnie Karam: If you've got nothing, you don't need to make this into 17 episodes, okay? Give me a solid 10.

1:02:18Ben Mandelker: I would have been much happier with Britt just walking around that William, I mean, not with Britt, but with Kelly walking around that Williams-Sonoma just browsing for housewares. I would have been totally fine. 45 minutes of that, like, talking about the spatulas, the bottle openers, the fish turners, like, give me that, not this.

1:02:34Ronnie Karam: So Britt's like, oh, really? She's not going to respect me? Then, baby, I'm going to lay the whole thing out. Well, the stylist said, you look like a mess, so keep it up, unless you want to talk about those abortions you had when you were married okay just go for this is this is a lot coming when this lady in the head and then shoo her off like at this point get a fire extinguisher and just

1:02:57Ben Mandelker: spray it in her face i can't you know just yelling at a fashion show where phatrous kids are just around the corner about how kelly had two abortions something said in confidence you're just gonna yell it out like what about those abortions you had when you were married this is coming from the same woman who's suing bravo for creating a hostile work environment while you're airing someone's like deeply personal like story that could have been very traumatic out in the public uh to weaponize it in a stupid petty fight about a stylist and then you're gonna go and sue bravo and talk about hostile work environment so i just gotta say this woman's full of shit yeah she's

1:03:34Ronnie Karam: full of shit and then um but then kelly goes low back she's like oh you can't even have a kid so you can never be me bitch. I'm like okay this is I love that Bravo's getting sued like you said for problematic stuff and I'm like yeah this sounds great leave all this in. Leave an abortion and infertility stuff in. Sounds great. So Britt's like nobody wants to be you you little hobbit.

1:04:01Ben Mandelker: Whoa whoa whoa let's leave J.R. Tolkien out of this okay. So then Kelly's like get me out of here now. She made this cute. So Shamia's like, well, you know how you felt with all the Kenya stuff? Yeah, you can't bring up the abortion stuff. Okay. So remember, you're losing your credibility, right? That's the only thing that's kept you coasting through this season right now and kept us nice to you.

1:04:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but she obviously gets to Kelly because this is crazy. So Kelly's like being held back from people. And she's like, you whore-ass bitch. She's a hoe. And Phaedra's like, well, I don't know. I mean, something about an abortion and a marriage, well, that's illegal after Trump. So you ain't got to worry about that no more. Probably can't even get any birth control.

1:04:48Ben Mandelker: So Phaedra goes, follows Kelly and just tries to calm her down. She goes, okay, take a deep breath. I'm a Reiki healer now, by the way. I'm a Reiki. She's like, I don't care about what you do with your gardens. No, Reiki's not that, but whatever. And Kelly's like, it's enough. It's enough. And so she like tries to calm her down. And Kelly says, look, first of all, it's my body and my choice. second of all i got my tube ties after the twins so i couldn't even make a baby if i wanted to so then pager's just like calming her down she's like this is a place of peace and we are gonna film a sad scene in a moment so just calm yourself down you've got diamonds on your eyelids you've got ten thousand dollar boots meanwhile drew's still outside and she's just like oh my god camera person those shoes are cute wow wow so drew was like can i get in and so she starts like knocking it's very much like uh mary cosby at the bar at the bat mitzvah so she's like hello can i come in and then the fashion show starts and they're like trying to redo like and now this next person is wearing a fochinchilla and you just hear like a

1:05:51Ronnie Karam: hello hello that shit was funny so um she's like well if i was there earlier i never would have even seen that officer with the chicken and the chicken was good and the officer's cute too so that's where the real party's at so finally they let her in because she's not going to stop knocking and Phaedra's like well when we say six we really mean six now here come my children in crazy awkward pants so the pants walk and Dylan's so cute they are crazy pants though but he walks the pants and I'm so proud of those kids

1:06:24Ben Mandelker: they're on trend actually big wide pants they're on trend they are it's crazy they can do anything and Aiden gets up there and he's like hi everybody how's everybody feeling hey we're doing pre-orders right now on thestararchive.com get your pre-order now

1:06:46Ben Mandelker: there will be a lemonade stand afterwards so then Phaedra's so proud she's like you know my boys are my legacy my goal in life is to give them a leg up and tell them that all the time I want you to have a leg up so put a big bell bottom on it because you will be your brother's keeper. And no matter what happens in life, you have him because I won't be here forever. And she chokes up and I was like, this would have been the perfect time for them to play that little clip once again to make us all cry of, I'm always going to be your little baby. Remember Aiden in the back seat and we all cried.

1:07:22Ronnie Karam: So now people are shopping and Shamia goes over to Britt and she's like, listen, you know she's going through a divorce. like why can't you call or text her going through that and she's like i can't be fake by the way my insurance license was suspended by the president of iran after angela and kenya lying about me and also i paid for every meal you are the fakest person on this show

1:07:52Ben Mandelker: truly truly so then angela they're all looking at the furs and everything and they like some things and not others but then so then the episode sort of ends on this awkward and sad note because phaedra basically gathers everyone around and tells everyone that londi died and so shamia is crying because obviously shamia knows londi because she's best friends with portia and other people are just like cynthia's shocked you know she's met londi too and it's just like a they're all kind of like halted by it and phaedra's basically like we have to really stick together and support one another stop um you know weaponizing people's abortions against each other at a fashion show that my children are at um and then it just sort of ends on this like sad note like r.i.p laundi and it's true r.i.p laundi so next week is the season finale and we're gonna see uh the the gay try it with charles oakley which will probably fail massively yeah um yeah that should be good

1:08:50Ronnie Karam: because i guess angela decides the producers probably talked to angela and were like listen we've tried to give you something and you said no so you were gonna have a storyline with this guy go find this man right now and confront him so i guess they're gonna do that next week so we'll

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