


17 Jul 2025 · 1h 13m · 27 chapters

A Real Housewives of Miami season recap (S7E6 Part 1) centered on an “anti-narcissism” party hosted in a garden with mirrors and self-help quotes, where the women mock, confront, and pile on each other—especially Lisa Hockstein—using “red flags” games and narcissism-themed prompts.
Amy Phillips (Drama Darling). She’s a comedy/TV podcast host and longtime reality-TV commentator, known for impressions (including a “Gina voice” from Orange County). Ben Mandelker hosts in Ronnie’s place.
The party is framed as therapeutic but functions mainly as reckless social targeting with no real resolution. Stephanie is praised for escalating and then softening with Lisa. Lisa is portrayed as self-focused (checking herself in mirrors, turning moments into Instagram content) and as more forgiving than others, though she’s also defensive. Gertie is highlighted for extreme over-talking. Larsa is mocked for “Larsa light” comebacks and for switching to her “real voice” when angry.
Daniel’s mirror quotes like “never try to defend yourself against a narcissist”; Lisa wiping/ignoring mirror text while posing on a flower swing; the “red flag” vase game where Marisol drops a flag into Lisa’s vase and Lisa is voted “quickest to take offense.”
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Discussion about Amy's Miami-themed setup and attire.
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Discussion about Amy's Miami-themed setup and attire.
“Oh, it's great to have you here, especially because today we're doing Real Housewives of Miami and you have a pink neon sign behind you, which feels very Miami.”
Conversation about personal fashion styles and innovations.
“So I went ahead and she was able to pick me up in Santa Clarita.”
Amy reflects on her impersonation and the listeners' response.
“I was going to mention that the collar is such a great style.”
Introduction to the Miami season recap.
“They've had to endure all my weird noises for years and years.”
Discussion on Stephanie's character and her actions this season.
“Aren't we didn't, I'm not bringing you back for orange County because Ronnie's going to be back for orange County.”
Conversation about Lisa's tardiness and Stephanie's reaction.
“I was like, does Florida really need that much extra fuel spilled on their heads like at the beach?”
Humorous skit about an anti-narcissism protest referencing the show.
“a host from a restaurant which is something we rarely see I know and a restaurant that was actually looked pretty empty.”
Amy performs impressions and discusses celebrity culture.
“I'm so glad because I didn't even know you had a Jodie Foster impersonation and you were just ready.”
Discussion about Larsa Pippen's potential movie pitch and her persona.
“I thought you guys would like to read it like.”
Conversation on narcissism quotes and reflections among the cast.
“So she's like, oh, I mean, the guy's hot.”
Discussion about characters' behaviors reflecting narcissism in a party setting.
Exploration of Lisa and Stephanie’s dynamic and their attempts to reconcile.
“And I also taking a page out of Lisa Vanderpump's book, you know, like, oh, watch where you're stepping because you might get an LVP cease and desist.”
Analyzing communication dynamics and over-talking in group conversations.
“Or they're just at like, sorry, this is a pre bench before they get to the main bench area.”
Exploration of communication styles and tendencies in conversation.
“And now, Amy, it is your turn to speak in a Holly Hunter voice.”
Recap of a game at a reunion that humorously highlights narcissistic traits among participants.
“Now it's time for them to play some Greek games.”
Discussion on Lisa's responses during a confrontation, showcasing her assertiveness.
“I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did.”
Discussion on managing relationships and conflicts while on a cruise.
“That was a little bit more on tune than she can do, I just want to say.”
Participants express their feelings through song and discuss emotional pain.
“Are you looking at a statue right now or one of your castmates?”
Exploration of who in the group tends to play the victim and the consequences.
“I'm also hearing Martina, I'm hearing she's having a hard time too, yeah?”
Highlighting a heated argument between Larsa and Lisa regarding personal issues.
“Lisa, do you have anything to say about that?”
Lisa's emotional struggle and the group's dynamics surrounding her feelings.
“And she's like, you told me that Marcus doesn't have it like that.”
Discussion about Larsa's actions at the retreat and group tensions.
“Larsa has done fucked up shit to all of you guys.”
Commentary on Daniel's self-help techniques and their effectiveness.
“And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap because he put something serious about narcissism in the caption.”
Insights into the modern relationship with social media and narcissism.
“So it's, if you don't jump off the swing of a narcissistic relationship, you'll always be going back and forth.”
Light-hearted conversation about book cover designs and previous examples.
“Stay away from people who expect you to prioritize them, but don't think twice about putting you last.”
Light-hearted conversation about book cover designs and previous examples.
“Put your hands together for Carly Clapp.”

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2:48Ben Mandelker: I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today in place of Ronnie, please welcome back the one and only Amy Phillips from Drama Darling. Hi, Amy. How are you? Hello. I'm great. It's so nice to see you again. Oh, it's great to have you here, especially because today we're doing Real Housewives of Miami and you have a pink neon sign behind you, which feels very Miami. It is. You're set. Yeah. You clearly are you broadcasting from Miami? Beach right now, South Beach? I am. I'm in South Beach. I took Stephanie's private jet because I had some dogs to pick up. So I went ahead and she was able to pick me up in Santa Clarita.
3:31Mia and Danny and I, we left here. Now we're in Miami and we're going to be remote this week.
3:40Ben Mandelker: Great. I'm so happy to hear that. I'm so glad that you found a proper Miami theme set for your Miami visit. Thank you. And I've got my shirt on as well. That's popping some, I feel like Miami colors, you know? You know, you're smart. I'm also wearing stripes. We're both wearing stripes. You are wearing Miami colors. I am wearing just a random like navy and white sort of nautical look. Yeah, it is nautical. I love it. I love a nautical look. like naughty i'm a naughty cow unfortunately the cow doesn't really make sense part of it this is actually if you're looking at it it's this is one of the first t-shirts i ever made for myself we know that your originals yeah this is when i was first started to sew and you can tell because you can see this crazy white line that's around the collar can't get from here oh i see it now Well, you're pointing it out.
4:37I mean, you're stretching the material. It looks so good. I was going to mention that the collar is such a great style. I love the style of the collar and you created that. Wow.
4:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Well, you know what? I like to think that when I'm not podcasting, I'm innovating fashion. So thank you for recognizing my hard work over here. You're welcome. Please. And please, please tell the people in Miami. i just get really emotional when we talk about your work and like people's work and just like working and stuff you know it's yeah you are like stephanie show show jay uh who just loves work show jay masoud yes i don't know is that how you say her last name show jay well no you're right i don't know his name is masoud i don't know how to pronounce her last name so i think you're right on that okay let's call her steph s um steph s i have to say i have since we recorded last week i have had your gina voice in my head i've been laughing at intermittent times of you doing that like escalating gina voice it is my favorite so uh i really recommend in case you missed it everyone go back and listen to the orange county season premiere just to hear amy's impersonation of gina which was so so so funny and i apologize if it hurts your ears and please just you know it I think I tailor it down a little bit towards the middle just so as a respectable voice on not my podcast.
6:03So I just want to make sure I'm not hurting your listeners ears.
6:06Ben Mandelker: Listen, these are Crappens listeners. They've had to endure all my weird noises for years and years. I love your listeners. Don't you worry. You are in a safe space. I've got so many followers. I've got so many people. They're so nice. Like I've anytime I've been welcomed into the crappens universe, everyone just really is embrace very embracing. So thank you. Well, you are welcome here. And in fact, everyone should go subscribe to Amy's podcast before we dive into this Miami recap. Everyone goes subscribe right now. Drama Darling available on all platforms and follow Amy Phillips on all social media on Instagram.
6:39Ben Mandelker: What's your handle on Instagram and Twitter or wherever? Yeah. At meet Amy Phillips, you know, and I'm teetering. I'm at like 98.8 and I'm teetering. So push me over the edge. push me over the edge and that's at meet amy phillips and then of course drama darling show is also on instagram great i am teetering um i'm i'm teetering in general like no matter what i do whatever the context i'm teetering um but i'm i'm tutoring at 40 000 i'm just trying to hit 50k because um i hear that you can get cool influencer things at when at 50k you can like make cool videos and stuff. Yeah. That's what I've heard.
7:18Whoa. Okay. Yeah.
7:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Because, because last summer I did like an influencing video for quest bars and it was so much fun. And I was like, I want to do more of these little videos because I just enjoyed making a video. And then I was told, yeah, you basically need more followers. So that's my way of saying people follow me too. Yeah. Let's stop teetering. Let's get our teats up and let's get some followers. Let's cross that line. Yours is an easier goal to hit than mine. Mine. I'm actually asking for a solid 10 K more people. You're just, you just need like two K and then you're, we'll see. We'll see. All right.
7:55Teats up everybody.
7:56Ben Mandelker: Teats. No more teetering. We want to stand in our truth on the other side of those numbers. Um, so today we are talking Miami. Uh, we are not talking. Aren't we didn't, I'm not bringing you back for orange County because Ronnie's going to be back for orange County. He's finally making his grand return for the orange County. It's next second episode. Um, what do you think so far about the Miami season before we dive in? Oh, I mean, I love, I love Miami. I love it so much. I, I absolutely love Stephanie. I am very much here for her at first. I was like, okay, another kind of felt like Vicki Gondelson was like another bitch I gotta like.
8:37And then also another bitch that's like, keeps talking about her Birkins. I'm like, are we are we still obsessed with Birkins as a rich person? Can we move on from that? You're so rich. Do something original. Let's stop with the Birkins. Let's put them in your glass closets with locks and just move on. Get something different to talk about. So it was really put off by her at the beginning about the Birkin. Also, you know, taking the private jet to pick up the dogs. I was like, does Florida really need that much extra fuel spilled on their heads like at the beach? Probably not. Probably not. But then she read Lisa in that Sprinter van for being late, like a school marm.
9:15And I am now full steam ahead with Stephanie.
9:21Ben Mandelker: Yes. We are not teetering on her. She's very marm forward. And I loved it. Oh, my God. When she just berated Lisa about being late. Do you think your time is more important than mine? Do you think your time is better than all? I thought that was so great it was so wonderful and I was actually a little sad that in this episode she kind of pulled back a little bit I was like no live in that stay keep that keep your foot on the pedal but you know Lisa got plenty of Stephanie didn't even need to do that because she got it from all angles this episode and it was hilarious she even got it from a host from a restaurant which is something we rarely see I know and a restaurant that was actually looked pretty empty.
10:10Except for that lady.
10:11Ben Mandelker: They were holding a meditation retreat. I know. Okay, so we're picking up in that sprinter van after Stephanie has just torn a new one into Lisa. By the way, I've not had coffee today, so who knows if I'm even going to be able to like, I'm just praying. Those stripes on your shirt are going to give you all the energy you need, okay? I know. Just lean into the stripes, nautical energy. Okay. It's like, you know, stripes, stripes are the new crystal. Okay. They're just going to give me healing energy. Stripes are the new crystals. People are going to bring stripes to the reunion. Kyle's going to drop some on the floor.
10:53Ben Mandelker: so then uh so they are um heading down they head to this place called villa toscana which i guess maybe it's an event space whatever has all these nice gardens and everything and um daniel the um self-help expert is there and he's wearing a little crown and you know because it's it is as one would expect a greek gods and goddesses um anti-narcissism party and like 10 of those yeah i just hit the streets the other day in anti-narcissism protest it was really great a lot of thousands of people turned up oh yeah did you make a sign yeah i put everyone had flags and they put them all in lisa's face her bucket we uh we everyone had uh i went to that protest as well anti-narcissism protest and yeah we did we then shoved all of our our signs into like when we got rid of them we just put them in a big box i said lisa yeah hockstein had her face on the signs i think we made an impact i think so i think we're making changes when jodie foster got up on that stage and spoke her truth i said yes everyone here who has been affected by lisa hockstein raise your red flags i don't know I think my Jodie Foster and Sheena impression are the same.
12:19Ben Mandelker: I'm so glad because I didn't even know you had a Jodie Foster impersonation and you were just ready. You were like, here it comes. It is fun. It is fun when you get put on the spot and have to do a prominent actress impersonation. A makeshift prominent. Yeah. Yeah. Like a Holly Hunter. Like a Holly Hunters. Holly Hunters. I am speaking out today against narcissism and pro-Greek culture. We won't let these people destroy us. Down with all the narcs. It's incredible how these narcissists, they just started to take us down. And I did a movie with John Goodman. I did 1 ,800 movies with John Goodman.
13:00And he's an excellent narcissist.
13:05Ben Mandelker: Which makes sense. That's why he got the role of King Ralph. And I am stretchy girl in that movie, Incredibles. You might remember me from my feature film, Broadcast News, which was where we were broadcasting news about narcissists. That's where I really was turned on about it. Yeah. And also I was in that movie where I was in the desert and I think Nicolas Cage was in it. What was it called? It was a huge hit. Huge hit. I believe it was called Raising Arizona. but original title was Raising Narcissists. Yeah. Yeah, and now they're going to actually do a reboot called Raising Narcissists.
13:50Ben Mandelker: We're still waiting for the script. It's been in development hell. Because Larsa wrote it. Yeah. Everyone's best friend, and she wrote it. I wrote like, I like, wrote like a script like. I thought you guys would like to read it like. larsa larsa larsa pitching a hollywood movie that's a somehow a sequel about raising arizona i can see it i can too she's gonna get the platform she's gonna get the opportunities and she's gonna come in and she's gonna be like so glad you're all here and they're gonna be huge huge producers and they're gonna be like why are we here like yeah somehow she'll like get like the like Spielberg in the room she'll get Ron Howard yeah they're all there A24 lining up it's like Jurassic Park meets Raising Arizona so like it's a couple and they steal a dinosaur like and but it's like not their fault because like if you don't want the dinosaur stolen like why do you even have the dinosaur out there in the first place you know how larsa's voice changes from like she does like she has her kardashian voice but then when she gets mad her real voice comes out yeah that's my favorite part about her you're so right she does she like morphs into the real larsa real larsa comes out yeah it's scary um uh i just saw sinners and um that was a movie about vampires and um as many people know because it's like a worldwide hit and I'm just acting like people have never seen it.
15:32Ben Mandelker: But it's a movie about vampires and that's like Larsa's voice. She's sweet and seductive when she's asking to be let into the barn. But when you don't let her in, her real voice comes out. Sorry, everybody. That was shocking. You need to go back in and do a trigger warning for that.
15:53Ben Mandelker: That was about pretty accurate. When Larsa gets mad, she's like, Lisa, I don't think you understand.
16:02Ben Mandelker: let me in like so um anyway they're arriving here we've got daniel who is clearly someone that um they should turn to for advice on narcissism narcissism because he's written like six coy expressions on a mirror and so i think that makes him very qualified to deal with these things right gory expressions yes and he may have written his blurbs on tiktok we don't know yeah we don't know but yeah he's definitely qualified yeah um he's written such gems as um never try to defend yourself against a narcissist because they already know you're right that's a good one that's like so right like that's like so right like or maybe like don't make a snack for a narcissist because they already were hungry and already ate I'm like yeah that's true that's a good one that's a good one that's a very good one is that Gertie?
17:10Ben Mandelker: that was Gertie that was Gertie co-signing she was cosigning yes she's so fast boy she went past those mirrors really quickly she can read as fast as she can talk she really burned through that anti-narcissism content she's like okay so nobody gets angry the narcissist being accused of something they did that's absolutely true oh no one never tried to defend themselves again the narcissist they already know what they're right that's that's true too never give a banana to a narcissist because they might uh not need it that's true too i i hate giving i hate wasting a banana on a narcissist okay which is the next mirror please oh my gosh i've never heard your first funny damn you were killing me last week with your terry dubro and now the terry dubro thing i was like to me that's like not this is so like inside the actor studio i was like but the terry dubro thing was like not even like a an impersonation that i even thought was like a thing and you were dying and it was like tickling me so much because like terry dubrow just i don't even remember what i did good i can't it's so good i like i've never heard anyone do a terry dubrow and it's like perfection okay i'm sorry but anyway i love this skill set for me yeah like what makes you qualified ben mandelker for this job i can do a good terry dubrow impersonation we're gonna pitch a movie and it's going to be starring Terry Dubrow, Larsa Pippen.
18:34We'll keep working with the casting, but then, you know, we've got to do this. I don't know if Heather's going to make it.
18:40Ben Mandelker: Unfortunately, Heather has other obligations. She will be appearing on the reboot of Hot in Cleveland.
18:48Ben Mandelker: Okay. Back to Disneyland. So, yeah, they walk into this garden and there's mirrors everywhere and they all have sort of like meme kind of anti-narcissism quotes on them like sayings or phrases things like you things that you would remember um what were those cards that people would send to those virtual cards that people would send to each other that were like very sassy it was like it was always like a it was an image of like a lady in the 50s and it was always something like my friend said where's the wine and i said well i just had lunch like that's what they are talking about now yeah that like older lady who like she always has a bunch of bags maybe or something like so i went to the store and got a lot of stuff so what you know it's just like yeah you're right it's snarky like we're finally as women we're coming into our own of like f you you know yeah it's like the source of all of marisol's humor by the way also you are so right i truly cannot get enough frankly quite frankly not enough when marisol sits down uh for her inside the actor's studio they're like marisol where did you develop your sense of humor oh honey it was e-cards all the way right oh my mother used to send me e-cards when she didn't want to talk to me so they're funny i mean you know between going for e-cards and trying to get some d i really learned how to get some comic skills sometimes I used to just open up the paper and just read Kathy cartoons.
20:28Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate.
20:30Ben Mandelker: Am I right? Ag. Arg. Steve.
20:39Ben Mandelker: Oh, man. I would love a Kathy reboot that was just Marisol. Oh, it was Ag. It's Ag, not Arg. That's what it is. But Marisol would say Arg. Yes. Marisol would say Arg. I was too in character. That's what it was. You were a little bit. You went there. You went deep. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. I have a giant deck outside and needed to furnish it and was worried about getting things that matched and getting things from different stores and making it all work together. Well, it ended up all working out beautifully with Wayfair. I got every piece out there from Wayfair.
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23:56anyway he made it into the miami recap okay sorry i would love it no not only did make it
24:03Ben Mandelker: you don't have to apologize we've already brought jody foster and holly hunter into this mix bringing all the a-listers yes welcome so they all are no one really is very impressed with these mirrors they're like oh okay interesting that's that's cool all right by the way adriana is eyeing the self-help guy. I've already forgotten his name. What was his name? Daniel. Because he's hot. So she's like, oh, I mean, the guy's hot. I mean, if I wasn't with Frenchie, I'd sure be going for Australian tonight. I mean, you're going to find me down under. I mean, I'd like to play that didgeridoo. I'll put that Joey in my sack.
24:47Ben Mandelker: You know? Good day, mate. put that shrimp on my barbie that's not a knife this is a knife i'll eat your dingo baby i don't know what that was that would actually be very helpful because that dingo did a lot of damage so you know you know it's good that someone would eat the dingo in turn and then the dingo would learn revenge other dingoes take note take note dingoes read those mirrors dingoes the original narcissist dingoes dingoes so narcissistic narcissistic they so um alexia is saying that they like this party is not about todd but like sorry but yes Toad Remember that episode where she didn't know how to say Todd's name She was like Toad Toad Toad Babe it's called Todd Just say Todd She's like
26:05So
26:06Ben Mandelker: But she says this is actually to expose the narcissism It's really for the other women Because they're all a bunch of narcissists Which is Very true actually it's like really right on the money yeah this group 100 so um uh then daniel he starts reading a quote he's like all right everyone who wants to he wants to hear a quote about narcissism goes like this goes like this
26:33Ben Mandelker: i like to tee up my narcissism quotes because you guys are all narcissists and probably not listening to me? A little something like this. Hit it.
26:45Ben Mandelker: I'll give you a beat. All right, thanks. Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people. You've been cured. Drop the beat. Drop the narcissism.
27:05Daniel. Yeah.
27:07Ben Mandelker: He's so wise. He's so wise. Good people get tired of being good to ungrateful people. Wow. I mean, if this person understands the root of narcissism, like if he doesn't, then I don't know who would. Because this right here is a mastery of a concept. It truly is. The words are blending together. I don't even know what it means anymore because they're all so generic. But I'm like, he could say anything to any of these ladies and they'd be like, yeah, that's true. He's like, oh, narcissism is somebody who likes to give to charities and is selfless in everything they do. Wow, that's so true. That's so true.
27:50Gotcha. Gotcha.
27:54Ben Mandelker: Wow, that was like really wise-like. so so then um then they go now it's another mirror that says the problem with being empathetic is that you feel sorry for the people that hurt you and gertie's like oh my god that is so true okay i mean i absolutely feel that way and the fact that this is a narcissist party says a lot because obviously i can't because i think that's like we have a lot amongst us we have a lot of narcissists okay and then it cuts to lisa and she's the only one looking at these mirrors to look at herself and everyone else is reading the quotes off of them and she's like checking out her hair in the mirror and i was like oh my god i love this show it's too good like you can't even write something this great she genuinely was like i thought i saw her with some windex like wiping off the saying so she could actually see herself better you know just a chamois i don't think she even realized there were words there she just didn't see anything she just was looking at her reflection right she's like mulan mulan yes i love yeah isn't that that's isn't there a song is that a christina aguilera song like what does my reflection say about me or something like that yeah yes i know what you're saying i'm picking up what you're laying down thank you it goes something like this it goes um you look in the pond and you see yourself off in the colors of the wind wait we're mixing up disney movies it's holly hunter doing uh doing pocahontas but have you ever seen the have you ever seen the the wolf cry to blue corn moon which i have i live in montana now i don't know if she does but i feel like she probably does 100 % Wyoming she's one of those one of those celebrities it's like yeah I live in Jackson Hole now I just fly in when I gotta do something for Hollywood just you know you know every Thursday I have coffee with Frances McDormand down by the general store because we're normal people and then we fly to Hollywood to do Hollywood things but we come back we're normal people and we say we say things like this hi Jan to the people who are walking by because we're just one of the folks
30:16that's what we do we just you know go out on our land because we have a lot of land there and we just like live off the land sometimes we just set up a bonfire and just have some s'mores
30:26Ben Mandelker: yes read poetry uh sing songs by uh steven schwartz for pocahontas one of our favorites favorites and i just think when we get our call to come in to hollywood we just drop all that and the next thing I know I'm in glam and I'm Holly Hunter, the actress, the one that didn't say anything for what I got an Oscar for in that movie. I didn't say one word. Piano. Piano. Fun fact, I hate piano. Band for my ranch. Guitars only. And maybe an occasional mandolin. Just like Bruce Hornsby and the Range would sing mandolin rain. Great song. Great man. John Goodman loves that one. I once made love to Bruce Hornsby in the back of a Margaritaville when I was shooting a sizzle reel for my upcoming reality show called That's Holly.
31:28It was a sizzle reel and it's working its way around Hollywood. That's sizzle reel. And turns out everyone thought it was Holly Madison. and so uh they gave it a go and then they saw it was me when i flew in for montana and they
31:43Ben Mandelker: no hard no they uh replaced me with a younger actress named tate addison mccray or something like that i'm not sure wow holly has a lot to say a lot shut up shut up already
32:05Ben Mandelker: so um yeah lisa's looking at herself in the mirror to completely missing all the stuff and then she's also um like she's found a flower swing and she's now just having a photo shoot like marisol's just taking photos of her while everyone is like reading stuff about narcissism lisa's on there like with a finger in her mouth smiling and being sexy and like with the flowers And she's like fully turning it into a promotional shoot for her Instagram. Yeah. And I also taking a page out of Lisa Vanderpump's book, you know, like, oh, watch where you're stepping because you might get an LVP cease and desist.
32:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. You know, please don't bring down Lisa's flower swing brand because she worked very hard for that. Extremely. Andy I was recently scrolling on Instagram and I saw Lisa another Lisa on a flowered swing
33:06oh god
33:08Ben Mandelker: you're supposed to Andy is supposed to fill in the gap when I go to the you say something now that's when you're supposed to apologize that's my ellipses so um another mirror says you don't always have to tell your side of the story time will and stephanie's oh that's so me that is a hundred percent me says the woman who has spent the past two episodes telling her side of the story uh like every single thing extensively she's like you want to hear a story about how my parents met this is my version of it like everything is like that with her you're so right it's like is this a date line why is why do we keep going back to you and why do you have to keep like telling your side you're so right everything is like that so um but stephanie and lisa have like a little bit of like this is where they kind of like make nice and everything and stephanie's being like all nice to her and lisa's like you know like wow you you really went in on me on the bus like you know now you don't want to talk like what's going on here she's like oh god like i'm sorry I just like I apologize and like I've no I've no problem apologizing again I know I just it was nice you know it's like a weird like nothing was really like they they bury the hatchet but like I think they just don't want to have tension between them yeah that's right I think so I mean I think that Stephanie knows that she is new so she does need to keep up appearance in terms of like being nice to all of the the ogs and lisa i've actually found that lisa hockstein is pretty forgiving to people a lot you know i mean like yeah obviously not with the larsa and lisa thing it has you know our it's like an octopus you know it just keeps growing and more like more like but um i do feel like lisa if you come to lisa with somewhat of an apology even though it was totally Lisa's fault because she was like hours late right but I do think that she does say like okay let's move on because I don't think that she really truly wants that more that many more issues with other people yeah she also like clearly has devastatingly low self-esteem and so like I think that she like she's like happy to apologize that way she can like be in good like I don't think she likes when people don't like her right so I agree So I think she's like happy to like to, you know, she'll stand up for herself in her own little way.
35:40Ben Mandelker: But it's, you know, she's usually going to cave at some point. But notably, I don't. Did she actually apologize for being so late or did she do that last episode? Because I don't think I see her apologizing. Didn't hear it. I just heard her accept.
35:57Ben Mandelker: Accepted the apology. But that being said, Lisa tells us like, I definitely do not want to be late with Stephanie again because I don't want to hear that ever again. It's like, well, so it kind of worked. Oh, yeah. Good point. That's right. She said that in her confessional. So we'll see. Time will pass. We'll see. Yeah, exactly. So I think so. They all are sitting on a bench now. I guess. Are they going to the benches now? Or they're just at like, sorry, this is a pre bench before they get to the main bench area. because there's a bench area where Alexia has like a has like a throne I believe oh yeah that's right it had wings it had like it was like an Egyptian tomb it had an underground water system like it had everything it felt like it felt like um it was maybe a clue on like the latest like national treasure you know revamp it's like Nicolas Cage was gonna have to like go examine in that throne to find out where the next part of the scavenger hunt is.
37:01Totally.
37:02Ben Mandelker: There's a throne in Miami. So, excuse me, I have a flagrant burp that I was trying to suppress. Flagrant. So flagrant. That's like flagrant nurses and burp. So some of the women are sitting on a bench together and Larsa is saying how she's been trying to communicate with Lisa and everything. They have to have a conversation and so Julia's like, yes, I mean, like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked like two people who are like mature and Gertie just starts talking completely over why don't you be Julia and I will be Gertie and we'll express how this conversation went. Noted.
37:49Ben Mandelker: Okay. You start you start as Julia. Like Gertie and I, we took time and we had dinner and we talked like we had a dinner we had a beautiful dinner yes we had a dinner i mean i would like that dinner to happen sooner but that's okay you know it was not a process it was your process it wasn't my process i like to you know nip things in the bud but it was you it was how you decided that you wanted to do it and that's fine you don't have to you know you can take a long time i mean you hurt me in the process but it's okay you know and you know i don't know if you even knew what you were apologizing for but i knew what i got what i needed and i know we can move forward so the most important part is that you know you listen to me and she listened to me and that was what was good feelings yes
38:35yeah it's like a symphony really true you know it's too far harmony yeah it's like i'm the wind instruments and and your percussion and and and and woods and i was i was some woodwinds i was
38:52Ben Mandelker: there was there was some bassoon happening oh definitely bassoon yeah for sure yeah there was some bassoon yeah uh gertie just talks completely over julia um now julia is still the villain don't get me wrong but julia's julia's trying to be like you know like you guys have to have conversation like the two of us just had a conversation and and you know that was really good and gertie is basically like yeah we had a conversation i mean took her forever to get to it like you know even though she was the one who started it like took forever but whatever we talked about it everything's good now and julia's getting so annoyed that like gertie's talking right over her honestly i i love gertie so much but my god i could not handle it i was appreciated the editors leaving in the over talk yes because i just felt it so hard and it's really she she surpasses i think most housewives in terms of the over talking i mean it is so impressive but she also over talks when she's just stating things and not yelling you know whereas most housewives just like over talk because they're yelling but she has the most her perseverance and ability to push through the over talking is on i've never seen the likes of it it's it's impressive she just jumps right in and just goes and like doesn't stop it's like when she starts talking i don't think she even hears other people i think that's the thing i think that's the thing with like real flagrant over talkers like that they don't even realize another person is talking because they are so tunnel vision on what they have to say and she was going she was going and Julia sitting there with this look on her face like, I'm trying to say something nice right now.
40:41Ben Mandelker: I know she couldn't. I actually think it's a characteristic of ADHD, although we'll have to ask Adriana because she's already looking at the DMS five, which is nice. But I do think that that is something that can be, you know, a symptom of that condition is when you talk over people ADHD. because I was talking with my therapist, talking over my therapist, sorry. And she said, you have ADHD. Okay. ADHD is good. You have it. No. I don't want to do this anymore. ADHD. ADHD. She put all the red flags in my bucket during our virtual therapy session. And I was like, wait a minute. What are all these?
41:24Ben Mandelker: Seem healthy. Not seem like a healthy practice. In the chat is just like a bunch of red flags and buckets in my chat on Zoom. with her. No, I did take like one of those tests, you know, like an ADHD kind of test type of thing. And there I actually didn't qualify as somebody who has ADHD entirely. I think I have very small, very few traits of that. But the biggest traits are like the over talking somebody. I mean, a huge one big wow uh is that that's that cuts across like genders and everything um yeah wow that's very interesting well i have to look into that i mean i'm no therapist talk over i'm like do i have adh no no no you don't i do i mean if i did it's fine it's fine there's nothing wrong with it we're both like um we stopped talking we're like we're like very very Are you concerned about talking over each other?
42:29Ben Mandelker: And now, Amy, it is your turn to speak in a Holly Hunter voice. I'm sorry. You go ahead. No, I'm sorry. Obviously, this podcasting aside in a regular conversation with someone, you know, do you let them talk? Are you talking over people all the time? No, of course not. Yeah. I mean, given that there's always going to be a little bit of overlap here and there with everyone, like, et cetera. But that's really interesting. I wonder. I wonder with Gertie. Um, so, but she, because she just fully just talks right over Juliet. Commercials, here comes one right now. This episode is sponsored by Butterball Turkey.
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45:34Ben Mandelker: Now it's time for them to play some Greek games. So they go to the other couch area, and this is where we see Adriana's throne, which makes no sense why she has this giant, giant throne and it is noted by people like for instance adriana that like isn't it funny that a party about narcissism we have alexia the host in a giant throne for no good reason like no good reason right like why is it like this so they're gonna play one of these games a fun game that is purportedly to help them address narcissism although we don't really see what the game plan is on the therapeutic front right it's just like let's pile on to people unbelievably uh reckless and no structure and no healing and no direction and um no actual resolution no beginning no middle no end um just like air your dirty laundry right so everyone daniel hands out like a red flag to everyone and um he's going to read a statement and then they're going to put a red flag in the vase of the person that they feel like it applies to the most which um i was like first of all you have to get a lot of vases this is a big cast that's that's that's an impressive haul all those vases especially from earlier like a long way you know he brought them brought them from home so this is my vase suitcase i put all my vases in here for the narcissist this one's from sydney sydney's also the name of my ex-boyfriend who was quite the narcissist here i i always check my mirror bag because i can rip there in bubble red but the vase big I always carry that on.
47:31Ben Mandelker: So, okay. The first question is, or first statement is the person who is constantly talking about themselves. So Marisol, I think Marisol starts it because she goes, oh, that's easy. And then she stands up and she walks so slowly over to the vases. It was kind of like amazing suspense. It was like, how is she going to start this off? And she's like, sorry, monkey. And then she drops the flag in Lisa's vase. And it's like, oh, I thought there was Tito's in this vase. Oh, OK. Are there cockies in these vases? Cockies? That's well, I'll tell you something. I also would talk about myself a lot if I were surrounded by such boring bitches.
48:22Ben Mandelker: Got that one from an e-card, too. so it took me a moment to remember how it went Steve had to remind me this morning because I told him I would say that joke I would talk more if I could not be a friend of so basically everyone puts their flags in Lisa's vase oh great thanks thanks a lot everyone monkey by a landslide she keeps it light just like laughing at Lisa's pain so Daniel's like alright ladies, Lisa had an overwhelming number of six monkey for the win monkey for the win I want to know how you feel about that Lisa, the therapy is about to begin right now well maybe I tell my problem to the wrong people I don't know maybe I shouldn't be talking about myself to these girls I don't know.
49:23I do love Lisa on defense. She does keep it pretty tight. Like her comebacks aren't that bad when she's cornered up, when she's like ganged up on in this situation. She does kind of fight for herself. I am pretty impressed. She keeps it nice. She keeps it nice.
49:41Ben Mandelker: She's much better than Larsa because when Larsa has to do a comeback, she just usually goes for the most basic words and nouns that she can find and strings them together. and it works in its own weird way. It's like if you're like, Larsa, why are you such a dumb bitch? Why are you such a can of beans? You're like, what? You're a stupid can of beans. You can't even open the can with a can opener. That's because it's a defective can. It's one of those cans that you get at like the dollar store or grocery outlet because it's dented and you can't even open your own can. So can it. What? Yeah. So can it.
50:22Ben Mandelker: That was a nice twist at the end Can it? So Larsa's like Well you're annoying people talking about yourself Like you feel like your problems are the biggest ones In the room like
50:36Ben Mandelker: Lisa's like well I also Feel like you blame me for not knowing your problems But you also don't tell me your problems That was actually shocking I was like she doesn't? I feel like Larsa is always Advertising her issues isn't she? I don't know but then when she was like well you don't answer your phone I'm like oh that's that's actually a good point because Lisa doesn't maybe she doesn't that is so rich that is so rich that Lisa is like well I well you know you're blaming me for you like you don't you never talk about your problems well you don't answer the phone when I call you to talk about the problems well I mean I can't be expected to answer the phone right I'm too busy being two hours late to things.
51:21Ben Mandelker: I gotta hang out with Jody. I also like Lisa goes, I also think you should tell the truth and stop saying lies. And Larsa goes, so you're the lie detector test? Doesn't even make sense. Doesn't. I was like, did you see the Orange County trailer or something? Why bad? Lisa Vanderpump in a blazer getting a polygraph done. That's right. And that too. So Lisa goes, she's like I have the receipts and Lars goes baby girl I am the receipts I kind of loved that I loved it too but it truly made no sense but I loved the spirit with how she said it you know she puts a little twist on it a little sass on it and this is when her real voice was starting to come out so she was going from like baby girl I am the receipt baby girl I am the receipt and you're like oh okay she really did get But she started to put a little salt on it, you know?
52:22Ben Mandelker: And then Lisa's response to Baby Girl I Am The Receipt is, is that your Halloween costume this year? So we're getting some dwindling returns on our comebacks now. Right. Because then Larsa has another one too. Go ahead and try to get a dress in your size. that's much more classic larsa get a dress in your size can of beans
52:55Ben Mandelker: i didn't hear that can you repeat that can you repeat that can you repeat that ignore ignoring ignoring ignore ignore oh yeah you're gonna ignore oh yeah Guess what? I don't get receipts because I like the environment. So you are actually killing whales. Larsa. Digital receipts sent to my email, not printed. Well, email. I don't have an email because I have Jody and you don't have anyone. Oh yeah. Well, yeah. you got an inbox that just won't stop right my well at least my box is in your box is out I never said that I never said that that would be where it goes ladies I never said your box was in your box isn't in my box is in it would go there that place who is the person who is quickest to take offense it's a little spread out this time I think everyone kind of like votes for each other right and Stephanie picked Lisa which you know because they just had a fight etc and Daniel was like alright everyone the one that was quick to take offense was Lisa she got the most with three Lisa are you offended by this because if you also proves the point.
54:39Ben Mandelker: She's like, this is like a whack game with some whack people. So, yeah, quickest to take offense. Whack. Whack. That's a whack game. Actually, it is a whack game. I'm not going to lie. She's right on that one. It's terrible. It's terrible. She's right. I can't believe she stayed there as long as she did. I know. I'm shocked. so Lisa's uh Lisa has a little monologue where she's like you know everybody by the way has narcissistic traits for god's sake Larsa has a Larsa light okay and we see Larsa at fashion week like taking selfies with that like giant colleague light that she has attached to her phone excellent edit excellent yeah um so then we have um who takes the who is um who has the the lack of accountability who has a lack of accountability and um uh you know it's just more more pile on for lisa etc but um adriana keeps on picking marisol for these which is fun it's like an attack like the friend ups going to each other right and i'm like wow i forgot they even had something because they're so not engaging at all on this series so far it's just so i was like oh right they do not like each other yeah adriana hasn't gotten in trouble yet this season which is shocking normally she's in the thick of it by now he's in the background wow just you know flirting and talking sexy talk with every second she gets yeah well she's in love i guess with frenchy it's taking away a lot of her energy you know it can happen just be careful um all right everyone just understand that this is an exercise for everybody to grow and evolve even though we haven't used any of these questions to try to find growth or evolution okay it's not about attacking each other.
56:29Excuse me, please.
56:31Ben Mandelker: Can I ask you a question? Yes. Yes, you may. If somebody tells you something. She just starts an aria. That was a little bit more on tune than she can do, I just want to say. It's a beautiful note.
56:51All right.
56:53Ben Mandelker: All right. It's a beautiful note. Okay. Thank you. I mean, I'm starting to talk like you. Anyway, I lost my Julia. Okay, here it is. Now, what is your recommendation on how to move forward with someone who you invite on cruise ship that takes this mad at Captain Sandy? Well, did this person apologize? And are they in this garden with us right now? Yes, posh, kind of. and I'm looking at her right now. Are you looking at a statue right now or one of your castmates? I can't tell with your eyes right now. I'm having fun. It's over there. If you follow my eyes, you can see past Alexia's golden chair.
57:48Ben Mandelker: Listen, my little golden tiara is a little bit heavy. It's just sort of blinding me. Can you just tell me who you're looking at right now? I can't. Okay, I will sing it for you. Okay. Okay. That's acceptable.
58:03Ben Mandelker: Gertie. Oh, all right. So Gertie hurts you. Can you tell me how Gertie hurts you?
58:12Gertie hurts you.
58:13Ben Mandelker: You can sing it if you catch it. You can sing it and I'll be able to heal you of your narcissistic attack. Yes. Okay. My accent is really hard to do. No, this is not good to my app. would you like me to adopt a russian accent so you feel more comfortable discussing your issues yes yes so so tell me about garrity oh did she hurt you yes she
58:47Ben Mandelker: um okay i would like to say that i just want to say that like sorry um this is after i was physically assaulted and there's been like a lot to discuss so i apologize but i'm sorry we're Thank you very much, Daniel. But there's a bit much to discuss. I mean, have you ever heard of a Captain Sandy? I didn't think so. Okay, that's the problem right there. Okay, until you can watch your Below Deck Mediterranean, I don't want to hear you weighing in on our discussion yet. Thank you so much. All right. So we heard from Hurdy Gurdie. And so she feels a certain way. And now, Julia, could you sing it? Julia, what is your reprise?
59:32Ben Mandelker: Sorry, that is me doing warm-up. Let me, let me. Here is how I feel. Gertie is the worst. I'm hearing pain in your aria. Lots of pain. Lots and lots of pain. I'm also hearing Martina, I'm hearing she's having a hard time too, yeah? Yes, because she found out that so many people are using surrogates and it is very offensive to her. All right, well, that's just wrong. I'm going to write it on the mirror over here. Surrogacy is fine in Australia and so she'd be fine with Martina. Martina also said she always hated Australian Open. So I guess that all makes sense now. Ouch. Ouch. That hurts. That hurts.
1:00:27Ben Mandelker: Yes, it does hurt. Can I tell you I also have another problem with someone? Can I tell you about my problem? Yeah, of course. It's with goat. Goat poop all goat. My goat poop all over my kitchen? Is my goat a narcissist? your god the god you could you pray to got got little god with diaper
1:00:58Ben Mandelker: little god little god i worry god is narcissists oh okay i'm concerned How do I save goats? Yeah, in Australia we have dingoes in diapers. And, yeah, they do. They poop in the kitchen, yeah. So what you've got to do is you've got to write in goat poop on mirrors so they can see what they did wrong. Oh, thank you so much. I think this will help. What is happening? Can we go? Can we move to the other couch bench? No, there's one more question. Okay, here we go. Statement number four. Who plays the victim? Who in this group likes to play the victim? And remember, if you get the most votes, you're not allowed to be the victim of this pileup.
1:01:52Ben Mandelker: Because it's a trick. Oh, my God. We're not going to move forward. This is getting worse and worse. I mean, there's only one can of beans in this group that I'm going to vote for. The dented one, if you know what I'm talking about. Receipt coming through. Receipt. All right, guys. It's Lisa. Lisa, do you have anything to say about that?
1:02:21Well, you know, I'm really upset about this.
1:02:26Ben Mandelker: Okay, can I just say something? Can I say something? You're Larsa. You're mad about a photo. My boyfriend took with your ex four months ago. That's what this is about. I'm not mad at that. We were playing a game, a game. It was duck, duck. It's not a game. You're the narcissist. Larsa. See what I did? Everyone. I turned it. She's the Lars, the narcissist now. Okay. Lisa, that's not cool. You guys have to move forward. You guys have to move forward. I'm sorry. You guys have to move forward. It's very important that you guys move forward. I don't want to hear anything more. You guys have to move forward.
1:03:06Ben Mandelker: Please apologize already. Anything besides I'm praying for him. Please say that you never texted anything, okay? Please. Your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women. You need to say that your boyfriend shouldn't yell at women. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not used to men yelling at me. You have to say that you're not used to men yelling at you. He's so cheap. And just say that, just remind people that Jodi is very, very cheap. Go ahead. Tell me. You know what? I'm not lucky. Okay? I'm just not lucky. Okay, Lisa?
1:03:42He's just repeating everything.
1:03:45Ben Mandelker: She's not lucky. Okay, everyone. I want everyone to know. She's just not lucky. Okay, Daniel. Are you watching this? Daniel. Daniel! She's not lucky. Daniel. she's not a lucky person you know when britney spears was singing wasn't about her she's not lucky is getting very dark yes
1:04:14Ben Mandelker: he's dark um so anyway larsa and lisa are in a full-fledged fight and daniel cannot he's trying to control it he's like negativity is in the answer ladies and they just it's like daniel you you are you're an accessory here you you've done your work which is you got them to fight you just have to sit back and he does he then just starts to smile and he's like you know what this is pretty cool yeah he embraces it he's like i'm out of control i need to let go of control and just let the housewives do what they do yeah exactly um so so uh larsa uh is saying um well actually yeah all right there's there's the fight is still the fight is is really rampaging on and um lisa says something about larsa's boobs what is it she says yeah this was so weird so um Lisa starts to kind of threaten Larsa about the things that she could say about her.
1:05:17And so Larsa's like, say it. Go ahead and say it, honey. Honey. Girl. Girl, honey. Okay, girl, honey, baby. Say it. And she's like, you told me that Marcus doesn't have it like that. You don't want your tits to be down to your knees before you guys get married. Okay. Yeah. did I really say that yeah you did no I didn't I didn't I didn't and then Stephanie and Julia are completely confused about what context this is in and we have no idea as fans it makes zero sense I don't know what she's talking about is she talking about plastic surgery is she talking about how Marcus doesn't want to be with her and she needs to keep herself high and tight and then Lars is just like um my shit i don't know what she says my shit is tight my i'm i'm up and tight tight and right
1:06:14Ben Mandelker: right and tight is how i do i'm tight everything's tight maybe lisa should stop worrying about my boobs and start worrying about how everyone in the group thinks she's a narcissist which is a fair point it's a good point even daniel's like oh you agree it's actually good point. It's an evergreen kind of statement. Maybe you should stop thinking about my boobs and about how everyone thinks you're a narcissist. Yeah. So, Lars is like, you know what I told you? Because now her voice is, you know what I told you? I said, I don't need a man. You know, I know what I told you. I'm independent. Okay. You know what I told you?
1:06:55Ben Mandelker: I'm teaching my kids to be independent. You know what I told you? I don't know what you're doing. You know what I told you? I know what I'm doing. You know what I told you? I'm done. And that's not what I told you. and then her voice comes back. It comes back down and she will never leave a scene. She will get, she'll go full force. She'll hit her crescendo. She'll come back down. She's not leaving that pit, that symphony pit. She's not going to leave a scene ever and good for her. As the kids say, she stands on business. She stands on business. Yeah, Stephanie actually stands on business because she loves business.
1:07:30Ben Mandelker: So Lisa... lisa's like i know what you're doing you can throw it but you can't take it oh yeah count the flags i'm good i'm good i'm good
1:07:45Ben Mandelker: larsa deserves some more flags i feel like everyone should have been able to give out two flags absolutely and that montage was a perfect um reminder of why larsa should have received more flags the things that she's done in the past were great you know for the show and deserves awards such as red flags. Yes. So Daniel has a new update. By an overwhelming score of 50 ,000 flags to zero, Lisa has won category five.
1:08:18Ben Mandelker: So who here picked Lisa? Alexia? Did you pick your flag for Lisa? Alexia, would you explain why you chose Lisa, please? You do, Alexia, because I like your like that okay well thank you so much thank you for saying that you like my Alexia because like I can relate to Lisa you know because I'm also going through a very difficult time in my life uh but I choose not to play the victim okay so I don't I don't I just want to say I don't play the I don't play the victim what I do do is I go out to dinner with a whole bunch of gay men and then I cry and scream in the restaurant and say I want all the nurses to die but I don't play the victim.
1:08:55So when you invited Lisa here today, did you want her to not be a victim because you feel like she's being a victim in her divorce and you're not being a victim in yours?
1:09:08Ben Mandelker: That is absolutely correct. I am absolutely not being a victim. And that's the reason why I had this party so that way you can understand the narcissism that I've had to deal with with Todd. And it's been a very difficult time for me during this divorce. And now you understand what it's like to stand in the shoes of a star who's dealt with narcissism but yes i'm absolutely not the victim at all not at all i agree i co-sign good point alexa alexia yeah thank you thank you thank you star this star says thank you to you thank you so much star and then um lisa alexia's chair thanks everybody and then lisa cries and then she leaves as she well she says that adriana is her safe space and and starts to cry because adriana's like you guys don't you realize like this is a pile-up like this is the only like do you guys not realize she lost her dad seven days ago and i was like well that is a fair point it is it is they're so they are savages on this show truly i'm surprised larsa wasn't like then what are you doing here why are you at this retreat why are you here reading mirrors when your dad just died why yeah you should be in toronto crying yeah you should be in jody's eyes crying in his eyes his two big eyes you should be doing something sad why are you here something sad she's like larsa you know there's nothing to do that's sad in miami that's why we live here there's nothing sad in miami everything is fun and wonderful here and she's like I was like literally playing the game and I was not the only one that felt like that like okay because we all felt the same thing like and she was like well when we actually tell the truth and how we feel we get punished how is this a fair it is like getting pooped on by goat in kitchen
1:11:05and then cut to the montage of Larsa Lisa's like I'm sorry. Larsa has done fucked up shit to all of you guys. And here's the montage to prove it.
1:11:19Ben Mandelker: An extended montage of Larsa being heinous. I mean, Larsa is really heinous. She really tops the charts with that one, you know? But that's why it really has to sting when everyone puts your flag in your vase when Larsa's there. Like, anytime that Larsa is not getting a flag and you get one, you just know you've really... You should know you've messed up at that point. yeah that's that should be your own little wake-up call yeah so lisa goes she goes inside because it's also like a thunderstorm is happening now so they're all going inside to a brightly lit room and so lisa goes to cry uh she's like you know it's her standard thing she goes into a restroom she cries this won't be the last time it happens this episode and um you know marissa's like well she got the flag at every single game i mean she's a big winner winner winner monkey dinner am i right oh god i need a khaki khaki um but yeah lisa's like i fucking hate these people like i don't want i don't want to be i just don't even really enjoy hanging out with this group i just don't want to be i don't want to be with these people i will continue to film with them as long as they keep paying me though absolutely yes right i thought that was one of the most honest statements i ever heard when she was like i actually don't even like hanging out with this group i was like thank you for saying that so we all can hear it i hear you and so but good on you for sticking with it so daniel after the larsa montage daniel is like all right everyone i just want to say thank you for participating tonight i think the exercises will be positive in the end
1:12:58Ben Mandelker: yes they were you did a great job daniel you know your uh your years of being a self-help expert really shown through in this moment where you really help no one at all did he lose followers is that the question that's I want to know I'm sure he gained followers because he's like a hot guy and he's on TV and that's really well and editing I guarantee I haven't I've actually not looked up his Instagram but I'm sure he's one of those people that posts like a shirtless photo of himself and then he has like a thirst trap And then the caption is something like, don't give into narcissism because it will destroy you from the inside out.
1:13:40Ben Mandelker: And it's like, you can't make fun of him for having a thirst trap because he put something serious about narcissism in the caption. Yeah, you're absolutely right. He 100 % has some glamour shots of him in that flowered swing, I would imagine. and like, you know, in, in shirtless and just in just looking fantastic and just being like swing through life, swing back at your narcissist. If you sway, let me workshop this. So you can get there. Okay. You can get there. So it's, if you don't jump off the swing of a narcissistic relationship, you'll always be going back and forth. It may look like it's flowers, but it's not it's too long i yeah i don't know it's so i found his instagram he has 823 000 followers which is crazy gosh yeah um he has a book called stop letting everything affect you it said like that i want you to read the audiobook please stop letting everyone everything affect you what is wrong with you you just can't do this he actually shockingly does so he doesn't he does not have any shirtless photos he has a lot of photos where he looks like he's being interviewed by Diane Sawyer and he's like a checkerboard so it's like him and then saying and then him then saying so he has things like the longer you go without something the more comfortable you are without it that goes for people too I'm trying to maintain I love that.
1:15:21Ben Mandelker: The tone. Stay away from people who expect you to prioritize them, but don't think twice about putting you last. Dear Ben Mandelker, I heard your podcast and you're giving my brand the wrong narrative. That's not how I meant it to sound. You're more like a Kathy cartoon or those greeting cards. I'm more of a sexy vulnerable strong sound could you go could you please this is a cease and desist from reading my captions you're ruining the tone of what I'm saying okay it's supposed to say a wrong partner will find you in peace and leave you in pieces spelled P-I-E-C-E-S get it because it's peace and then pieces a right partner will find you in pieces and lead you to peace.
1:16:16Ben Mandelker: So now we go from P-I-E-C-E to P-E-A-C-E. Do you see what's going on there? Did you see what I did there? I worked hard on it. Here's a really good saying. Hi, everyone. I need your help picking the cover for my new book. That was one of them.
1:16:41That reminds me of Craig. Remember when Craig Conover He was like one of the only ones that gave us a say in his book cover. I appreciated that. Remember that? His sewing down south or whatever his book was.
1:16:53Ben Mandelker: I don't remember that, actually. I'm sad. I would have definitely contributed. It was during COVID and he had like three or four different covers and it was really fun to like weigh in. And he went with the one that everybody picked. What was the one that he what was the name of his book? I don't know. I don't know. That's what it's called. Pillows. Pillows of life. I don't know. It was about pillows. Stuck in the pillows. Stuck in the pillows of life. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
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