#2936 RHOA S16E19 Part 2: Junebug Don’t You Lose My Number

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2:43Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. This is part two. of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

3:00Ben Mandelker: So Andy's like, all right, Judy from Judy Town says, Shamia, do you think Portia gave Phaedra a pass too early considering that she sat back while Phaedra tried to make you look like community property? So whoever this person was, they are definitely a producer on the show right because i'm guaranteed with everything that happened with candy and phaedra and that whole season and everything no one is thinking like oh how how shamia was done dirty by that who was remembering that at all like that was such a random like thing i actually i should say i remember it as a random thing maybe it wasn't as random as i remember it but i don't remember it being a very central part of that storyline I don't really remember any Shamiya thing from the past being that big of a deal, except for the Carmen and Candy scene that we see later.

3:49I remember that pretty clearly. But most Shamiya storylines I don't remember. I do remember the wedding one, but that's kind of the only one that I remember.

3:57Ben Mandelker: I honestly didn't remember the Carmen scene, to be honest. But that says more about me than it does about actually the show. I just don't remember anything anymore. Well, flashback to 2017 when Phaedra is accusing everyone of sleeping with Shamia's husband or Shamia sleeping with everybody or something. So Andy's like, did you ever resolve it? I mean, God, 2017. That was like yesterday. Am I right? So Shamia's like, well, I've never sat down with them. And Portia's like, yeah, but we talked about it because I'm your best friend. So we resolved it. And Phaedra's like, well, let's clear it up. You know, it was hurtful to me when I heard you kept bringing it up in interviews because we're on a good page.

4:36And Shamia's like, well, now we are. And she goes, well, and I decided to come back to the show and we had this conversation. Do you remember? And Shamia's like, yes, I remember. But what I'm saying is you dismissed it and you said me and Candy were going through something. And they're like, you never addressed me and the things that were said about me.

4:53Ben Mandelker: So Phaedra was like, well, so why didn't you address it? I mean, we were having a private conversation. We could have talked about it. And Shamia's like, well, you know, we never had a conversation that you put these things out there. And so then Andy's like, are you upset about it? And she was like, no, no, I mean, I'm totally not upset at all. And I was like, you're clearly upset because this happened years ago and you're still talking about it. And you're still obviously we can see your face. You're upset. You know, you're like you brought it up at the pampered event with Portia. So they're like, just let it out.

5:20What Shamia is getting into trouble for here, and I think it's valid, is that Shamia acts like everything's fine. And then she goes on interviews and disses everybody. And they're like, what the hell? Like, I thought we were fine. And she's like, well, I had the right to talk about that. it's like yeah but if you want to make that a storyline to make it a storyline on the show like why are you saving it for the fucking breakfast club every time you know yeah and then when we confront you about it you're like no things are fine everything's fine yeah well because she's always going to say i was trying to like preserve the peace in the group but then

5:48Ben Mandelker: she's harboring all these feelings and they just come bubbling out i wouldn't know anything about that so uh porsche is basically like they basically like you have to like address this finally and And Shamiya's like, well, I'm going to dumb down the shit y 'all said because it's my way of coping. And it's my way of laughing it off. And they're like, that's the problem. You have to let it out. Let it out. So they finally, like, Phaedra apologizes. And they basically are like, let's just move forward. And it seems like for now, everything's okay. She kind of gets in trouble because she says, well, I'm sorry.

6:22But she goes, well, you can't apologize with a but. She's like, okay. Are we done now? She's like, are you accepting my apologies or are you not? She's like, yes, I will accept your apology this time. We're moving forward. And when we're asked about it, I'll say she apologized. And we moved past it. And Cynthia's just like, another one. Another one. Where's the where?

6:48Ben Mandelker: So they now break for lunch. So some of the guys come in. Ralph shows up. Yeah, Ralph. I mean, Ralph's so thirsty. for i mean like so thirsty he's getting divorced from drew he's relegated to the basement but he's still going to show up for the cameras you know like he's he cannot resist and dennis is there there in his tight his skin tight shirt so the big big smile question and this is probably a rhetorical question because i don't expect you to have the answer but so that clip of phaedra was phaedra saying and you're sleeping with everybody you're like you're like around all over town and everybody knows it.

7:23That was what that clip was basically. And then Brit's clip that they showed was Brit telling her, and you're sleeping around all the time and you're married, you're married, Shamia. So why are these accusations eight years apart? Was that just Brit jumping on something that was said on the past that she's trying to like, yes, a hundred percent. Or is that real, like is Shamia in some kind of open relationship that people keep hinting at, but we're never talking about?

7:48Ben Mandelker: No, I don't know, but I'm just never going to give Brit any sort of credibility to having a rumor that has anything based in fact. I think Brit did her research. She watched her seasons, and she took notes on what ammo she's going to use when she needs it. Honestly, although, to be fair, she probably didn't even do that. She probably was just like, this is an easy thing for me to say, and so I'm going to say it. I'm never going to give Brit any sort of credibility for having anything close to accurate in anything she says. Okay. So Shamia talks to Gerald. you sent her flowers, you know, which to me is always a sign of cheating.

8:25So that's why I'm asking. I think that's why I'm asking. And Shamia's like, well, you know, I'm just off my game. And, you know, everybody's talking over me. I haven't had a chance to say a thing. Yes, you have. And every time you do, you're like, but what about me and Porsa? So you've said a lot. It hasn't been that interesting, but I don't know that you're going to blame everybody else. But she is. And so she's like, but when I get out there now, I'm going to finally have a voice. You watch, Gerald. you just watch and he's like okay well that's great great love to see it so charles is there

8:58Ben Mandelker: dennis is there um you know portia's like do you have any bombs he's like i have no bombs just a lot of hot dogs actually okay and then um shamia's still going off she's telling kelly she's like the gloves are off i'm not gonna let people talk over me i'm you're gonna hear from me at long last. Why is she so surprised that she's being talked over? Like, this is not, I feel like this is not her first reunion by any means, but she's like, no, I'm going to say what I need to say because people need to hear about the details about me and Portia. I'm like, I don't think, I think most of us actually don't really care that much.

9:37Ben Mandelker: But sure, you do you. I think your say has been, your say has been said multiple times. And I think it's been said in this reunion. And I didn't feel like she didn't talk. I just felt like it, you know, I feel like she feels that it's she feels the energy of the room. It's like she's sitting in the first seat. She should have a lot more going on than she does. And she just doesn't. And so she's like, here we go. Act two. I'm bringing it this time. I'm bringing it in act two. Spoiler alert. Yeah, that doesn't happen. It doesn't really happen. So, Andy, we come back. We're back. OK, this season.

10:09Wow, it's a long monologue. But I want to read Brit's Instagram story today. As everyone is now aware, I am traumatized and I'm suing fucking Bravo. Fuck you guys. I'm not going to the reunion. Bye.

10:26Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Shamia's like, I mean, it's mind blowing. I'm speaking that all this happened and then end up like not being her. But I kind of feel like maybe she already knew that and just played into it. because that same night after the event happened, we went out and she seemed very happy. You know, she didn't seem distraught. I'm not saying that it's okay, but yeah, she came back to the group like she was devastated. It definitely was very different. So she's saying that she hung out with everyone that night and she was just like normal. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything. She still may have like, I'll give her credit that she may have needed to process or once it started to become news, it became more humiliating.

11:03Ben Mandelker: If she thought it was just like one thing that was like small and then became like a thing that got all over the gossip rags fine but i also like everyone's read seems to be like yeah she was really trying to play it up so it's hard because you never really want to like blame someone who's the victim of what kenya was trying to do because what kenya was trying to do was really really terrible but brit has also shown herself to be terrible but then again there's the whole perfect victim thing like you don't have to be perfect to still be a victim so i don't know i mean bristol garbage no matter what it's not really helping shamia that um she she and candy both were you know in trouble for liking a pro diddy being for like a pro diddy is free now thank god diddy's free and they were like oh yes you know and they supported that so it's not really helping shamia much in this i mean shamia yeah obviously this was filmed before that post, I think, but it's a time where Shamia might be quiet.

12:01Ben Mandelker: I didn't realize Shamia also did that. I was surprised that Kandi did it. I was shocked. So Andy... Great look. So Britt was on Watch What Happens Live saying Kenya had something against her from the beginning and then we see a clip of the initial party where she met Kenya and Kenya was questioning her rings, which I still don't think was a big deal and don't think Kenya yeah and at worst it was like kenya offenses that was not even on the radar for me so but britt's like a perpetual like like how could you be doing that to me really you didn't even hug me so basically um uh britt's like brit saying that kenya was coming after me all season long and everyone's like yeah we didn't really feel that way like if you asked like like there was there was never any indication and if you asked kenya kenya would have been like i wasn't coming after her they're all like yeah brit really concocted this like in in her head a bit and yeah um angela says you know that's why i wrote the question at the bank because i don't think kenny had any clue that that brit felt this way so that's why it was supposed to be an opportunity for kenny to explain how she felt and yeah kind of went left oopsies well the part i left out when i just shortened that the instagram thing was brit claiming that the pictures that were shown on the show weren't even of her so that's kind of what they're talking about they're like how is it not even her i mean the whole thing is so confusing i'm i'm confused i still don't understand that whole thing so anyway let's just ignore that and go to how do you like them from apples on twitter said cynthia why in hell do you have so much grace and understanding for brit and zero for kenya and i like cynthia's answer here she's like that's not true first of all but what kenya did was wrong I'm not standing up for that.

13:51I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go publicly stand up for someone who just showed a woman's porn pictures to the public and made sure to do it in front of all the news outlets and all that shit. That was low, and I'm not going to do that. Sorry.

14:06Ben Mandelker: And Portia's saying, what I like that, Portia explains also a little bit more about it and saying how Kenya's a loose canyon, but that doesn't really excuse any of it. right but basically they get to a place where they're like you know what like we're portions like i was pissed i wasn't sad i was pissed that she did this and you know i really like that she said that because it's basically like kenya not only like messed up her like messed up what she was doing with the show and everything and it was it was wrong what kenya did but she also kind of like messed up the show like the show kind of like stumbled after that and this is supposed to be like their comeback show and a lot of it was like a lot of a lot of focus was on porsche and how she was coming back and like she kind of like portia took a lot of blame for people were like oh portia's a flop portia's a flop and maybe she was and i don't think she was really a flop but she wasn't like she didn't save the show but again as i've said like umpteen times i think it's because the show the show started the season with great energy but i think it couldn't find its bearings after this whole scandal so you know i think she had every right to be pissed kenya kenya really messed things up for a lot of people like an entire production staff an entire economy an entire economy people jobs and he's like um you know well i will say this there was an investigation surrounding the threat that brit made relating to the gun and there was also one relating to what kenya did and shamiya's like well i mean that's not even our fight okay shamiya i know you're trying to have a voice but not now i want to hear this investigation because we never get to the bottom of this and he's kind of cut off and then never comes back to it and I want to know what the investigation found you need to tell me because I hear about these Bravo investigations all the time they could have a new law and order based on Bravo investigations at this point there's so many goddamn episodes worthy so tell me what happened but he's cut off I'm like goddamn well because cut off because Portia said that like what had happened was that Kenya Moore had received incriminating photos photos of brit or information i'm sorry information about brit's past and then so then kenya went and looked and was able to find all these photos so shamia's like yeah yeah wait can we go back to that which cast member gave you that information and porsche was like well drew sent her the information and drew's like what what i never heard that that i was the one what i don't like my names drew you literally we saw you have dinner with brit and brit said she did webcam and you said, did you ever give up the kitty or whatever it was that she said?

16:42Ben Mandelker: You were the one who knew. You knew, Drew. Yeah, did you sell the kitty? Drew's such a liar, and for her to, it's hilarious, because I don't know why, but Drew just makes me laugh. Like, I don't even care that she's lying. I was cracking up, because she's like, what? Me? I've never even heard that. Really, all the blogs have been lit all season saying that Drew got the picture. She got some pictures from Ming Lee, who used to also date whoever. I said it earlier in the season, I forgot. They used to have the same boyfriend, the same boyfriend a long time ago. So Ming Lee got all these pictures off his phone or something.

17:18And Ming Lee was the one who sent them to Drew and Drew shared them. So that's been a huge piece of gossip in all the blogs. So for Drew to be like, what? I never heard that I was the one. Oh, you liar, please. And so Portia's like, yeah, you said it to me. And she goes, no, she said publicly and to me that she got it from a private investigator.

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20:19Ben Mandelker: so yeah they basically portia's just going on and on about it and she says that she spoke to kenya that night and kenya was like very remorseful and she says i was pissed at kenya kenya feels terrible for what she did etc and cynthia said cynthia's like you know it's just really sad because uh that's pretty much the last time i even talked to kenya she just stopped taking my calls Why are you chasing after Kenya's friendship? She's done you dirty so many times, Cynthia. Move on. Yeah, I'm kind of glad that she has because I feel like the old Cynthia would keep calling her until it worked out. Try and make her sign some kind of friendship contract or some shit.

20:55So it was kind of nice to see her just be sad that it's over, you know? Yeah. And she's like, well, I'm the only one that she doesn't speak to. And all the years that I've been a housewife of Atlanta, sweet 16, not that sweet. Not that sweet. And I just am left with one question. who's the who where's the where and why's the why

21:17Ben Mandelker: what's the what so um and he's like alright well welcome back to the Real Arms of Atlanta reunion this season we finally got to know the artist formerly known as Borja's friend Shamia Morton no relation to the salt Shamia you gave us a glimpse of the good the bad and the wealthy and had a voice of your own even if some people thought that voice sounded a lot like Drew. Watch this! Yeah, so we get Shamia's segment, which is a lot of money, the singing thing she did for her friends, the surrogate, and the kid. So that's what we see. So Andy is like, okay, so we got in a fight about donations with Britt, but that was resolved.

22:05Do you find it strange that she went from that really nice speech at the villa telling you that you were faking to telling you that you were faking. Because basically in the villa, Britt did that whole like, you are my best friend. You are my horse. And I am here for you. And then the next day she's like, oh really? Your kid probably wasn't even really sick. You were doing shots in Miami. And I'm like when they showed the clip, because she actually picked up a shot glass. She goes, you were doing a shots. Shots. Shot in Miami.

22:35Ben Mandelker: She's a very literal person. She's like, I need to have a prop to explain exactly what I'm talking about while I diss someone. The carrot top of season 16.

22:46Ben Mandelker: So Shamia is like, I mean, I have been able to handle infidelity rumors, a fractured friendship with Portia, having too good of a voice for the record industry to acknowledge, but I do not play about my kids. I wish that I were fabricating or creating a story. I am so blessed to have my daughter today. so to hear somebody say that really pissed me off it's like okay Shamia so she of course does an enormous monologue about that was only halfway through the monologue and basically yada yada yada she was annoyed her kids had a surgery to help with her hearing which is good and you know cause that kid's so cute her kids are so cute so she got her kids getting help and the first surrogate didn't pan out the first pregnancy didn't pan out and so they are trying a new surrogate and Sorry, Martina.

23:36Ben Mandelker: Sorry, Martina. You're just going to have to deal. Martina Navratilova. She's like, another surrogate being used. It's a travesty. Oh, God. I can Martina now. Don't even get me started on that lady's tweets. So Andy's like, okay. Mem from Fist wants to know why you're always commenting and comparing yourself to Drew's singing and acting abilities. Drew was a household name, Triple Threat. Okay, she can sing, she can dance, and she can lie about purses. So, come on. And she's like, yeah, and I just want to say congratulations, Drew. I'm just so amazed with you. I mean, she is a triple threat. And I'm not comparing my music to Drew's music.

24:19I mean, it's like comparing hot dogs to Grammys. But Drew was calling me a lap dog, so I shaded her. Okay, but I never shaded her voice or her ability to hit notes like she did me in the last clip. Okay.

24:32Ben Mandelker: Drew's like, for the record, I am no longer a triple threat. I'm a double threat because I lost one of my threats with Drop It with Drew. Okay, available now. So Drew's like, well, you went on the radio and said I was a liar for saying I speak five different languages. And Shmi is like, well, that's what I said. Drew's like, well, clearly I wasn't lying because I can speak five different languages. If you sense that I'm coming up with a classic Juicadora prop coming up soon, it's about to happen." And Shami is like, well, we had a conversation at Britt's event where you said yourself that your team made a mistake with the title of the song.

25:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, the song is called Affirmations. Yeah, because it's from a book. Look, I got you a book. It's called The Five Love Languages. You were supposed to ask me what languages I speak and you never asked me, so I'm just going to bring out the book anyway. Okay, here it is. Five Love Languages, my book. five love actually does anyone see what i'm doing here but i actually really like this because it was a it was like a part of it was something that that shamiya didn't even get like she tried to make this big deal like she doesn't know five languages that idiot when she was referring to the five love languages i thought that was kind of funny like i know five love languages because that is a big thing right now like on even on love island we see it where people are like my love language is acts of service.

25:49So, really? Because my love language is like touching and kind words. Oh, wow. Well, I'm an acts of service person. I'm sorry. I don't think we're going to work out. How dare you?

26:00Ben Mandelker: My love language is like physical touch. And, you know, if my tire doesn't fit your wheel, drive a different car, you know? So, Drew is like... so drew basically was talking love language then speak something else

26:23Ben Mandelker: so drew is uh yeah so the five languages that she's fluent in are the love languages which i also don't think is true because she's getting a divorce you could have made at least one of those languages work i mean come on maybe she has different dialect. That was just non-lingual.

26:49Ben Mandelker: So Drew's like, Shamia girl, you just love to make stuff up because you shaded and called me a liar. I mean, Drew. Come on, Drew. Come on now. Drew, let's, come on. What did you think of Drew saying you sing off key? And Shamia's like, well, you know, she said she's never had a hard time hitting notes. Well, she had a hard time planning a showcase because it never happened. Unlike mine. I'm like, oh my God. And another thing. And another thing. That Judith Lieber bag that you said you had. It wasn't Judith Lieber. It was a Judith Light original. And guess what? Her shit don't sell. So take it back, Drew.

27:30Ben Mandelker: And I know that because I've seen it on Amazon. So she pulls out. She's brought in a prop bag. It's like a big prop moment, this segment. So she brings out a prop bag. And it's got the same bag. but it's from China and it was only$130. And Drew's like, I'll post a receipt. And she goes, oh, really, really? Why don't you post it in your five languages? You fucking liar. So then Drew posted the receipt. So she actually did buy the bag from Bergdorf's according to her receipt. So this is like two things in a row that Shamia's kind of failed on. And it's very Shamia. You know, the love language is followed by the purse.

28:07It's just very Shamia. And it's very cringy. I know that I rag on Shamia a lot but it's not that I hate Shamia I'm cringed I think she's just trying too hard when did she post the receipt? did she show the receipt? she posted it on Instagram

28:24Ben Mandelker: oh on Instagram? yeah she didn't bring it to the reunion but she posted it on Insta you think it's a lie? I don't believe anything Drew does I'm sorry I thought you meant that she showed it at the reunion I was like I don't remember that No, she posted it online. It was$5 ,796 plus tax,$347.70. And so that came to$6 ,142.70. Okay? That's it. I wonder when she returned it. She even posted it with her song, I Got Five On It, Love Languages, featuring Big Quad by Drew Sedora. I got five on it. Did she? did she really call it i got five on it love languages no from the lovely drew drew drew drew drew drew drew drew drew okay so andy is like

29:24Ben Mandelker: thank god it's plastic i can wipe it off i got ralph on it i got ralph on it so Portia's like I'll take that fake bag I want that fake bag that's a nice bag I'll take that

29:43Ben Mandelker: so Portia do you think Brit was being malicious informing you about Shamiya showing your text messages and do you believe her I mean do you think Brit was being malicious is there any answer to that other than yes so Portia's like do I think she's being malicious yes because she was upset because she felt like she's being thrown out and had been out of an alliance but like two other things that she was really saying felt really familiar so the text messages were like my actual text messages so yeah some of it was definitely true and so andy's like all right well kelly you were present at the time brit said shimia showed you the text do you remember that and of course kelly is she of the great memory is like you know i don't you know we definitely hung out that night but i'm damn sure i didn't see any text messages from Shamia just as I'm sure I never compared my relationship to Angela's and surely this doesn't look like I'm just lying because we're in an alliance which we've already admitted to so I'm just gonna stick with this but I like Portia's answer because she's like well yeah it was malicious that Britt showed me those texts but they were true they were the text that I had sent so so she wasn't lying either so Shamia's like well you know the tea that she was trying to bring back doesn't even matter because I had already said that to your face, right?

30:59I mean, did me and Portia celebrate me getting a peach? My answer was no because she'd been going through some stuff. Andrew's like, oh my God, you're just lying today. You're lying. You told me and Angela the same thing, that Portia did not celebrate you and you were very upset.

31:16Ben Mandelker: Wait, so how is that? So Mia literally just said this is what Britt brought back to Portia, that that Portia and I did not celebrate me getting a peach and I was upset because like she was going, I guess actually she was saying it was a simple no because she'd been going through some stuff. And Drew's saying the lie is that no, you were, the lie is that you were, it was a simple no. You were actually upset about it. And she was like, she was like, no. Well, I said, when I got my peach, we did not get a chance to celebrate because again, the same story. And she's like, well, you never said to me that to me and Angela though, you said you were hurt because she didn't celebrate i was like this is so this is this is so threading the needle of like a relevance to anything at this moment like i'm not even sure if it's even well it's just another i think it's just another example of shamia acting one way and then acting another way to your face like she's telling the girls i mean portia what kind of friend is portia she doesn't even celebrate me when i get a peach i mean she even really my friend like doesn't she care it's a big deal for me and portia doesn't even care and she's really saying no no i was just saying you couldn't unfortunately celebrate because you're going through a lot Portia and I totally understand.

32:21Ben Mandelker: If that was the case then I do think that Shamia should just be more honest about those moments because like I mean but like it's also it's so this is such a small thing to like grill like to grill over to grill anyone over whether Shamia whether it's like their friend like to as this is such a small piece of evidence to destroy a friendship over you know. Alright well let's get to the moment we're all not waiting for some more Shamia and Portia. So we see a big clip package of their friendship and their problems and they're arguing. And then what's the current status of your friendship today?

33:00Does it have new boobs? Does it? Tell me nothing moves your friendship. And they just pause. No one will answer. They're like, who's going to answer? So Portia finally answers first. And she says, there isn't, there isn't a status of our relationship there's no communication and she says she could have gotten over everything but it's the recent smear campaign that she didn't like and the lies that were told in recent interviews she went on candy's show and said that portia didn't congratulate her and candy finally had to say well did she call you and you said well yeah she called and then you went on to the breakfast club and said that you only had one wedding and shimia says i did only have one wedding well portia says that's a lie which we all know that's a lie because she had one wedding in africa and one wedding one local wedding isn't that already established that's what i don't understand why shamia lies about stupid little things like that like it's been established on the show that you had a local one hasn't it well what's also what's also shitty is that like

34:00Ben Mandelker: shamia has these little lies you know to try to save face these little lies like well i didn't say that. I didn't say I was upset. I didn't say that. But I mean, if you really look at the actions, like Portia has been way worse than Shamia. Like Portia is getting off scot-free because we're all focused on these stupid little lies that Shamia said. And Portia is the one who didn't go to the wedding. Portia is the one who didn't congratulate Shamia. Portia is the one who shaded Shamia for her singing. Like Portia has been like, honestly, a shitty friend to Shamia, but we're all focused on the fact that Shamia is not being like emotionally honest with herself by saying like, well, no, I acted this way.

34:36Ben Mandelker: But then it turns out she was talking like a little bit of shit, which was honestly justified shit. And we do wish, I wish that Shamia would have just been honest and be like, yeah, I did talk shit because I was upset. But because now she's getting tripped up. Like Portia is able to change this whole narrative into, well, look at what I have to deal with. Someone who's not being honest with Portia. It's like, you fully skipped out on your best friend's wedding. You skipped out on all these things. You didn't even congratulate her. You showed up when she had a big party. You showed up late and tried to steal the spotlight.

35:04Ben Mandelker: when she was getting her big car at the first episode of the season. So like, I agree with you. I agree with you that Shamia could just say, listen, I did say that because I got a peach and you don't even care. Like, hello. You never, you never, we never go out. We never do anything. You just send me a little text. Like, what the fuck is that? I think she would be more right to do that. I think you're right. Yeah. A hundred percent. And then all these little lies too. It's not just Shamia. Portia's whole like, well, I couldn't go to your wedding because you know that I can't fly because I had medical issues.

35:33and then she's like, later this season, you said that you didn't go because we were having problems. So which is it?

35:39Ben Mandelker: And I didn't even know that until that moment. Right. Yeah. So, but what happens is that it winds up being like, being a false equivalency where like Porsche's, you know, infractions are sort of like just as bad as Shamia's. And if you really look at them, they are a hundred percent not. But I just wish that Shamia did not allow Porsche to have that sort of leeway because Porsche should be held accountable for being a shitty friend to Shamia at times. The wedding thing is shitty. A bunch of the things are shitty. I love Portia, but she sometimes needs to have her feet held to the fire a little bit more.

36:14Yeah. So then Portia basically is everything we just said. They start talking about the weddings. They go through all of that stuff. And it's just a lot of hurt. I mean, we've seen it all season. It's kind of the same thing. I'm trying to read through it to figure out where it ends, but it goes on for a long time.

36:33Ben Mandelker: It's the climax of the episode, essentially, right? But then it eventually starts to pivot and to talk about this alliance again. So, you know, Portia is like, no, we had a beautiful friendship and I love you, Shamia. So for me to now see that you decide to form an alliance with two girls, the very two girls, and she's like, I tried to include you in the alliance. And she's like, no, you didn't. She's like, yes, I did. She's like, that's not true. She's like, but meanwhile, Portia's the one who says she doesn't want to be an alliance in the first place, but she's like, but then, you know, to talk about I'm trying to sabotage you.

37:06Ben Mandelker: She's like, okay, I'm going to be her today. I like Portia saying she's going to be her today. Like, she's not her ever. She's the one who gets all the attention and all the microphones. Yeah, so then they start doing the, no, I'm going to talk, no, I'm going to talk, no, I'm going to talk. And they argue about the alliance and stuff, and then Andy's like, hold on, hold on, hold, hold. Now, Shamia, this is the part where I pretend that I don't spend my entire life trying to get women to fight on TV. I really want women to make up, guys. That's why we're here. So, Mia, you told me you'd be willing to put in the effort if Portia makes the first move, and I saw that she did a birthday post for you.

37:42And she goes, yeah, that was sweet, and I texted her back, because now a text suffices, by the way. So she's like, yeah, well, but then she continued her smear campaign right after that. She's like, no, I didn't. And you're the one that made a post about my mom. You said that I that my mom did something egregious to your mom and Portia goes she absolutely Did and she goes why are you even speaking about my mom? She goes. Oh, really? You know, she did you know what your mom did And that's the end so now finally got into something interesting, which is the daycare fight It's the fight over the daycare center, and I hope they get into it cuz that shit was interesting.

38:20It was all off camera

38:21Ben Mandelker: I don't even remember what that some mom lights. I I don't even remember what that daycare center drama was all about. Mom and Shumia's moms both own daycare centers. They both run daycare centers. Okay. So like competing daycare center ladies. And, uh, Porsche's mom was at one of the moms was having financial trouble and she was like, please, whatever happens, if they take my daycare, don't let my, you know, don't, don't let it get taken away or used against me. Or don't let, don't let it be turned into another daycare center or something. Don't let it fall into the wrong hands. Yeah. Something like that.

38:54And then the daycare center did get taken away. And then the other mom took it. She bought it. And so now it's a daycare. It's like, how dare you? You took my corner of the daycare market. Yeah, but have a better daycare. I mean, I guess. I don't know. I love it. How do you say that to somebody, though? Because I feel like daycare, I feel like you have to be a good person to have a daycare. But maybe there's more to the story. Somebody manage a daycare better, lady.

39:25Ben Mandelker: Maybe there was some corporate sabotage. I don't know. Oh, I'm very excited about that. I love a generational backstory. There were also the rumors about, so there were the rumors that Shamia's mom somehow got the daycare when the other mom was in financial straits. And then when Kim Zolciak's house was being foreclosed on, there was the rumor that Shamia's husband was the one who bought it for rock-bottom rights. So I like, and I don't know if that one was even true. I think that it wasn't, but I like just the rumors about Shamia are so much more interesting than what we're getting is I guess what I'm saying.

40:02Cause that daycare fight is the best thing that happened on the show and it was all offline.

40:05Ben Mandelker: Maybe it was like Walmart, you know, like Walmart would like come into a community and have like rock bottom prices and then drive out all the business and then Walmart would be the only one in town and prices go up. So maybe that's what Shamia's mom did with her daycare center. driving off the mom and pops yeah like Walmart driving off the mom and pops except they weren't even driving off the mom and pops because the mom and pops drove off and left their kids at the daycare so we'll have to see how that all pans out next week which is good because my wifi is failing in this hotel at this moment so in the meantime alright everybody thanks so much for being here we'll talk to you next time bye bye watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors Ain't no thing like Alison King.

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