#2944 RHOM S7E7 Part 2: It’s My Party, and I’ll Shame if I Want To

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2:24Ben Mandelker: She's like, it really annoys me that Alexia lets Todd get away with anything that he says, like wants and does. And Todd, like, can not want to have his cake and eat it, too. Like, he doesn't even give her a Birkin bag. I mean, I'm just saying that she gets very catty and very attitude when you bring him up. And it's just like, you know, it's like too much.

2:39Ronnie Karam: Oh, really? Like, why are you so obsessed with Todd? Like, she doesn't even know Todd. You want to talk? You want me to start talking about Masood? You want me to start talking about Masood? Because I can talk about Masood. Which she will. And, you know, there's a lot to talk about there on the Reddit. it so i can't wait till elect because you know alexia already has a folder this thick marisol and alexia are not going to let someone come on this show without a full folder on their asses so she's like wait a minute what episode is this because i'm supposed to wait till about episode

3:06Ben Mandelker: nine so yeah the bottom is going to fall out for sure for masood and we all know it's going to happen it's so funny because with stephanie she really is so obnoxious because she doesn't know alexia well enough to sit down and start weighing in and saying these things like she's still way too new both as like a friend and as a cast member so she's definitely being really rude right now but everything she's saying i'm co-signing with i'm like everything she's saying i'm like yeah exactly and i love that she doesn't like cower to the hierarchy of the show she's like no i'm gonna sit here i'm gonna say it to you and when you like try to say that i'm full of myself i'm i really don't care i'm i'm still gonna say like this guy is bad for you so i really like that she's um fearless but she is admittedly obnoxious too well i think she's trying to be a good

3:54Ronnie Karam: girlfriend like in her defense you know i think she's trying to be like a girlfriend and be like no girl you got this be strong against that man like you just had a narcissist because that's what they're all doing right and alexia had them all at a dinner and was like no you guys need to tell me like you need to like protect me from thought and like i said when i try to go back to him don't let me go back to him like we already had that whole thing i mean stephanie wasn't there but i I think she's trying to be a good girlfriend and be like, no, you got this girl. But, you know, there's a time like when the girl is going through the bad problem with a guy.

4:23Ronnie Karam: That's when you're like, no, you need to get rid of him. How can I help you get out of this situation? But when they're in a good place, you can never say anything like that because you'll be turned against. I mean, come on, Stephanie. And you can tell Stephanie doesn't have any girlfriends because she doesn't know those. She doesn't know. She has no idea. Like little idiosyncrasies.

4:41Ben Mandelker: Just know how. And actually, that's what I'd like about her. I feel like her confrontation is very authentic. I don't feel like it's like, you know, there's that school of real housewives or reality shows that are unlike the Brandy Glanville or like Noella or, or whatever. I can't think of other examples, but we know them. The people who are kind of like big and they're going to stir the pot and they're always going to push buttons and they're going to be brash and in your face. And a lot of times they, you can just see they are really trying to have like a reality TV moment. And like, yes, I'm sure Stephanie is trying to have a moment, But I also feel like this is actually authentically how she would react in this situation, too, which is why I think I'd like her more than I thought I would, considering how obnoxious that she is.

5:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, my only thing really against Stephanie right now is that she's not as funny as everybody else. But I'm going to, you know, maybe she just needs more time to warm up. You know what I mean?

5:33Ben Mandelker: No, she's not funny. Well, she's funny. No, her attacks are funny, I think. But her confessionals are not funny.

5:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's just not grabbed me yet. But I'm not necessarily a hater or a lover. I'm just like, I'm a fence sitter. I'm on the fence. So now it's really awkward. So Gertie takes the stage and she gives a speech about, you know, cancer showed me I'm not always in control. And then I controlled cancer. Guess who works for me now? Cancer! Cancer is my secretary. I now support cancer just because it's my employee. And we're like families. This is taking a weird turn.

6:07Ben Mandelker: I'm giving it benefits. It's gotten in ways I didn't expect, but it's my choice. It's my party. And I just had an MRI, and the MRI results came back, and I am 100 % that bitch that wore a bracelet in the MRI and I shredded half my arm off. But whatever. So they all tear, and Julie is like, I've been with Ibindis with Martina.

6:28Ronnie Karam: I'm like, oh, Martina. Okay, let's not have a cancer worse right now. And she's like, but, you know, it's not an easy journey, so I'm glad. I'm very proud of my friend. So Gertie continues And she gives props to her family And she literally gives Russell his flowers And he comes up and he kisses her And she introduces her sons And you know it's all sweet And she's talking about how Until I breed breast cancer I didn't know how to redefine my life But now I will be true to my emotions And we should all be by the way So if you're going to be happy If you're going to laugh Smile If you're going to be sad Cry If you're going to be mad Let it out thank you for coming by the way this is part one this is only part one so stay tuned stay if you're

7:11Ben Mandelker: going to publicly shame someone if you're going to publicly shame someone shame them now note that you all clapped for that so just remember that you clapped i died when she said don't worry this

7:21Ronnie Karam: is only part one so stick around stick around okay i'm gonna send my family i'm gonna send my family home now so she sends the family home and you're like uh-oh this is where you're gonna then you

7:30Ben Mandelker: know this is where she's gonna give it to him yeah exactly once she sent her kids up because they like they have to show it because there are people like me that are like that's already saw the teaser and then know that the kids are there and they're like what in tarnation is about to happen and they show her sending the kids home and no one realizes that something is brewing so there's more chit chat and kiki's like by the way you weren't at the gala last night how's that my best friend's birthday likes and stephanie's like oh yeah the gala was so nice everybody got along you know unlike your party it became a little crazy and she's like well you mean alexia's party She's like, oh, yeah, the narcissist party.

8:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, yeah. I call it the Todd party because she can't take me telling her that the event was for Todd. I mean, it's fine. It was, you know. No, no, no.

8:11Ronnie Karam: I can take it. I can take it. But I'm not going to agree with you because the party was not for Todd. It was not for Todd. Okay, okay.

8:17Ben Mandelker: The event wasn't for him. Let me please clear that fact. Okay, Carmen. Carmen, you're here. The event was not for Todd. Okay. It was inspired by Todd.

8:27Ronnie Karam: Oh, you know why? You know why? You know why? Because Todd is a Greek god. That's why. Okay. That's why it was inspired by Todd. delusion you're not a delusion that's why you're delusional so then gertie gets back on the mic and she's tapping it's like hello hello hello i would like to introduce a special performer but before i do so i would like to shed some clarity on a situation that has cast a cloud on some of my friendships relationships and my character please pretend i'm not reading from a card right now and The women are looking around at each other. And so she's like, as these ladies know, an incident happened a few weeks back.

9:04Ronnie Karam: I was willing to forgive and move forward because the water was filtered. Okay. It was filtered water. So I can move on. But then last week, it became clear to me that this person chose to continue to perpetuate the matter even more. so tonight i feel that it is necessary for me to set the record straight by telling the truth and exposing the lies the lies the lies the lies tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

9:35Ben Mandelker: wasn't she reading this off of her phone was she reading yeah i think she was it was one of the do things she's like a prepared speech yeah she really acted like the way as we're about to see she really acted like she like she decided to whip this up last second and this is like so blatantly planned i mean so now everyone all of a sudden we see julian gritty's text exchange it's on the screen and adriana's like oh no look and all the everyone's like oh my god text messages tense text messages did you take any screenshots of them because i did not but i was like no but we are

10:11Ronnie Karam: lucky because our note taker certainly did nadine you're a goddess thank you so here's the text gertie i'll figure it out julia just got back to the room it's sandy's party i had no control over the list i guess changes were made when martina canceled i am sorry are you well taken care of and gertie says to be honest i was a little taken aback that i was moved to decide for this exclusive party if i'm supposed to come in as martina's replacement i should have been extended the invitation as a courtesy, especially when I'm leaving the kids and my husband at home to be next to you as your guest.

10:44Ronnie Karam: I'm sure you had no control over it.

10:47Ben Mandelker: So, I think that's a perfectly reasonable response by Gertie, who is a Bravo star, who should not have been sidelined, and Julia should have advocated and been like, you have to find a seat for my friend. Otherwise, I'm not coming to this. I'm going to be with my friend. I still think it's really shitty that Julia sided with like a Captain Sandy dinner, like a dinner instead of the friend that she asked to come on the cruise. Like you have to stick with you. Like if Gertie had said, listen, honestly, don't worry about it. Go to the dinner. I'm going to go have a meal somewhere else. It's really not that big of a deal.

11:19Ben Mandelker: Then fine. But like clearly Gertie was upset that she was like had to was like kicked to the side. I think this was shitty of Julia.

11:25Ronnie Karam: Well, it's also kind of sick. It's also kind of shitty of Captain Sandy's people to be like, OK, well, Julia, you can come, but your guest can't because it's not Martina. So they're not famous enough. So they're kicked off now. You have to tell them to go somewhere else. Like, no, you're still going to use, you know, my social cred or whatever for pictures and whatever else. So I don't know. I think it's shitty. So then they continue. And Gertie's like, well, considering that I was just trying to be supportive as a friend to you, I was not even in on the reservation for this restaurant that you guys put me at.

11:56Ronnie Karam: They're squeezing me in and I'll be OK. But I but know that I would never let anyone do that to my friend who showed up for me. And Julia says, I didn't coordinate dinner. All I am thinking about this weekend is Martina's condition. I thought you wanted to be here and would enjoy being here. Otherwise, I would never have suggested to join me and leave your kids in dressel. I am sorry you're upset, but this is a work weekend and this wasn't done on purpose or to offend you.

12:20Ben Mandelker: I know. And that's why I said yesterday when I saw you and reducted coordinating network opportunities that you would be okay without me there. Anyway, I'm a big girl. All good here, even though it's not good at all. And I'm just saying that the way I pushed hard to make sure, for example, Adriana wasn't left alone and got her into this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So there's some parts that are like redacted from the text that they blur out. So I don't know. I still think that like this is shitty. So then everyone's watching and it's like, ah, ah, ah. And Gertie tells the audience, the goal from this is not to prove who is right or wrong, but to show that Julia is a terrible, terrible friend.

12:58Ben Mandelker: And we're going to clear things up so there's no more doubt that no one should ever hang out with Julia. know. Thank you very much.

13:02Ronnie Karam: Okay. But another thing is that there's nothing in these texts that we don't know. So Gertie has worked this up to be this huge like gotcha moment, but there's really nothing here. I don't see. I still even after reading these because I hadn't read them before right now. I don't see what the big deal about these types. There's nothing in there. What are you trying to prove? I don't get it. I'll watch what happens. Gertie was on watch what happens and she was getting slammed in the votes. The votes were like, were Gertie's messages messy or whatever and the other option and of course she lost it was like 80 87 against her and she was like whatever and her explanation was andy was like well what were you trying to prove i don't get it and she said well i was trying because you know julia said that i was begging her to come on this trip and i did not i was there to be there for her and these proved that i was just there to be there as a friend so gotcha i i still don't see where the gotcha is so i don't see where the gotcha is and i also don't see why any of this is so offensive to the ladies well i mean i think it's

14:04Ben Mandelker: i see why it's offensive which is that it's supposed to be a night for like celebrating cancer and then you made it about this petty you know text message exchange and i just felt like um i felt like a manipulation of uh you got us all here under the pretense of us caring about something that's like very important to you and has affected a lot of our lives with lots of our family members and you actually just were that was just that was a macguffin that was you were just doing that to actually settle a score or that's how it came off and i just felt like it felt icky because uh you know it should be about okay i can see that but so i think that's where it's from that's where it's from and um yeah that's but i also think that this cast you know just a few

14:54Ronnie Karam: weeks ago, Julia made a huge scene at Mary's Soul's wedding party. And that wasn't a big deal. Nobody gave a shit. And then she threw water on Gertie. Was that at the same party? That was at the same party, right? Yeah, that was the same party. So that was a wedding event, and that wasn't the place for that. And nobody walked out or made Julia. And they should have. And they weren't so offended over that. And that was way more egregious. And Gertie's defense for this was like, well, you know, I had the cancer party, and then I sent my family home, and then we had the after party and i did it at the after party so so in her mind that's how she separated it i mean listen i thought it was you know i didn't think it was the classiest thing ever i just don't think the ladies have the right they don't have the leg to stand on in valley terms after the way that they've acted towards gertie this season and responded to things that have happened towards gertie i mean listen i think she just got fed up and she was like fine you want to be immature and play stupid games with me i can do it back with you yeah i mean i loved it i watched it i thought

15:55Ben Mandelker: it was i i i was like this is amazing tv uh i was cringing i i did think it like this may not have been the best place to do this at your like cancer cancer celebration celebrating people who survived cancer um but i 100 agree that the cast like what julia did at the wedding was like really mortifying and embarrassing and and it happened at a wedding and it just was like and no one really reacted and everyone was basically acting like gertie did something as bad as julia did that night and she didn't and there was there was a there was a really strong microaggressive tone to that entire moment and then here it's like they are all appalled and i'm not saying that they shouldn't be appalled or grossed out by this but i'm saying you need to keep that same energy for the other things you know keep it or don't be appalled or don't be appalled because i think one of the reasons why they weren't appalled was in their mind they're probably thinking with the wedding they're like this is this would be a great scene for our show this is this is this is hilarious but for this one it's like you should also not not i think it's deeper than that

17:03Ronnie Karam: i think that the the marcel and alexa from the beginning of the season were coming for gertie they got julia on their side they were like she's too loud she's too this she's too extra and so that's what julia came out and started parroting this whole season you're too much you're too loud you're too extra that's why she has to keep going around saying okay i'm not yelling right now i'm not i'm not being extra i'm gonna say this very calmly you know so they've got her in this kind of corner where they keep calling her aggressive and extra and um so when the thing happened against her they were rooting for it they're like good julia's telling her off and telling her she's too much and she's too extra and throwing water her so they were on the side of that villainy they were yeah so now she's standing up to julia so now she's standing up to julia so they're being like little soldiers and they're like oh look how aggressive gertie is so once i finally saw these texts i mean if there was something horrible well but there's also saying something private about martina or she or there was something horrible and scandalous in these texts that would be one thing but these are just petty scheduling texts right but i think the other

18:03Ben Mandelker: reason why they were acting horrified is because they had it in their mind and they even say it in about two seconds now that like uh-oh like if gertie does this to julia she could do this to all of us and all of our stuff that we text like nothing is safe so they're just they're they're

18:15Ronnie Karam: scared already not because they're using text against each other all the time i mean we've got like lisa you know the fight is like lisa was friends with you know lisa's boyfriend did an instagram with somebody else's friend and they're like oh yeah you want to talk about the text what about what you texted me i mean we've had whole storylines on here but there's having texts

18:37Ben Mandelker: displayed in public versus, I don't know, I think being blindsided with texts versus like back and forth in confessionals, I don't know. I think it probably hits different. And I think that ultimately they're scared and they're like, oh shit, she's going to do that to Julia. She could do it to all of us. And they're like, we can't stand for this. We cannot stand that like, you know, our texts could be put in public in front of our peers, in front of our loved ones. I mean, look, I agree with you. I agree.

19:05Ronnie Karam: anyone who's been on bravo but especially any real housewife knows and any person who watches real housewives knows any text can be used against you write it regret say it forget it write it regret it okay it's like a very famous term that comes from dorinda i mean it doesn't for housewives people it comes from dorinda on this show but uh we all know that your text can be used against you know what it was we've seen them printed out and used carted out many many times so if they if they're so shocked then they are stupid and they need to watch housewives more it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

19:44you know what it is it's almost like i'm just trying to drill down into where the where the

19:49Ben Mandelker: differences in these in these situations are because i think we are total agreement about everything in terms of being on gritty side and there's a total um double standard yada yada but But I think what it is, is like, I think they're all prepared for texts to be to come out at reunions and for texts to come out in confessionals. But I think the idea of text messages or like recordings or things like that being like being used without consent in like a public forum in a scene to be able to build a whole big scene during the show. That's like somehow feels more violating than the other ones. and like that is where like the line is for for the reality stars and like again you have shannon bedore who's freaking out at katie janela for doing a voice memo of when shannon herself shannon's having a meltdown and acting poorly and she's freaking out when shannon is like freaks out all the time on camera so you think like well she's just being recorded by someone else but it's like there's some weird pact with these reality stars of like what is proper behavior and what is improper Like what's on limits, what's off limits.

20:56Ben Mandelker: And the lines are always moving. But it's fascinating to me like why certain forms of surveillance are totally acceptable and others are like horrifying.

21:09Ronnie Karam: I feel like it just comes down to who they like and they don't like. Like they don't like Gertie, so they're going to make this the biggest deal ever. It's like you have on the Valley right now the whole situation with Danny who did a really horrible, stupid, gross, perverted thing. and the way that they're using that and they're so up in arms and offended but then they were fine when danny was pantsed by jacks no one cared about that like when he they exposed his genitals on that show or in the same episode when jesse was wasted and he gave uh kristen a titty twister you know it's like well why is one thing assault and the other thing's not assault like they don't like bias is 100 you know they're gonna come because they don't like him but they like Jesse and Jack, so they're not going to come for them for that thing.

21:51Ronnie Karam: And so I think it's just like these ladies are showing their ass. I don't think what Gertie did was right, but I think that they're showing their ass by overreacting to this degree.

22:00Ben Mandelker: Because if they can hang their hat on something, if you give them something where they're like, oh, we can be righteously indignant about something, then we will

22:08Ronnie Karam: take it. That's what's getting me, is the righteous indignation for sure.

22:11Ben Mandelker: Because also, don't forget, Gertie got to have a whole season. Last year, she got to have a whole season where they couldn't be mad at her because she had cancer. and she's going through cancer and she really got to have her way and you know they were just like just sitting there like so annoyed they're like oh she can just do whatever she wants because she has cancer and meanwhile we just have to sit here and take it you know that's what they're thinking and now and it's just so true it's dark and true and now they're like okay well she's over it she had her season so we're gonna come for her again because she's annoying us because by the way let's also like i love gertie but let's let's let's let's act like let's not also keep acting like Gertie is like the easiest person to have a conversation with.

22:48Ben Mandelker: I mean, she really does talk over like very, very intensely and incessantly. It doesn't mean that she's what they call her aggressive and too extra and too loud, which is where the migrations really come in. But she, I think it is probably hard to have a conversation with Gertie.

23:04Ronnie Karam: Well, but the, my, and my problem with that is the people accusing her of that are Alexia. You can have a conversation with that. I mean, she's constantly nodding and talking and saying, no, no, no, no. So, So it's like the problem isn't the crime that they're talking about. It's the person that's bringing the crime to the police. You know what I mean? Because they're just as bad. They're fucking hypocrites. And that's what's making me crazy this whole fucking week on Bravo. It made me crazy in the valley and it's making me crazy here. It's not saying the people that are in trouble didn't do anything.

23:34Ronnie Karam: It's just the reactions to them are so hypocritical.

23:38Ben Mandelker: Absolutely. Absolutely. God, I love this show. I do too.

23:43Ronnie Karam: But all this conversation that we just had, like taking it so seriously, I was laughing my ass off watching this. I love every second of it. I was not mad. I laughed my ass off at the whole watch what happens and all of Gertie's explanations I was cracking up at, too.

23:58Ben Mandelker: So funny. Like, yeah, we just got very, very serious. But the truth was, watching it, like, it was not a serious moment. To me, it was like, this is hilarious and awkward and cringing at all the things.

24:10Ronnie Karam: And then the best part, she goes, everyone's so. so offended and marissa's like i'm leaving i can't stay here this is disgusting during a camp so they're all getting them their panties in a wad or whatever and meanwhile gertie goes okay well now that the truth is out in the open let's celebrate as i present to you rocky lanes and then she makes this act come out and like rocky dude it's weird this weird circuit of soleil dance all over each other and she's like okay have fun have fun performing like a jesus and a

24:42Ben Mandelker: way to warm up the crowd lady i know oh god so everyone is like oh my god so 36 then it says 36 minutes earlier and so now we see the origin story for this scene so um maris we see marisol pulls julia and marisol's like well i saw that that russell's here and then we go to gertie sitting with russell in the green room and gertie's like so did you and julia talk and he's like yeah she thinks you guys are making progress how could she think that we're making progress when at the Grecian party for Alexia, she did exactly what we said we were no longer going to do. Let's do another flashback within the flashback.

25:17Ben Mandelker: It's inception, everyone.

25:19Ronnie Karam: And Julia did do that. You know, we see the flashback to the party where Julia's like, Um, hello, Mr. Very Handsome Narcissist Leader Person. Please take off your shirt. Okay. Now tell me, when somebody tells you something very painful and hurtful that hurts you deep in the heart, what is your recommendation? How to move forward with a person named Gordy? I thought we were supposed to be made up but then the second you get in front of your little fucking friends and you have to be their minion you come for me publicly again

25:52Ben Mandelker: exactly and she's you know I feel like honesty at this point in time because she took it back there and I feel like I have no other choice but to really let the truth be had I'm telling you right now Russell I am tired of giving grace I am gonna be a new person I'm gonna redefine myself to be and that means I'm going to take not going to take their shit lying down anymore. We're going to teach her a little lesson and this is a totally improper choice, prompting choice I'm going to make right now. Nothing has been prepared.

26:18Ronnie Karam: So, um, she's like, oh, I hate projection operator. Come here. I hate to do this to you, but I texted you something. And when I say this word, set it up for me. When they go low, you go high. And sometimes when they go low, you go lower. And she does her high makeup. It's so dramatic. I was like, what? I wish we had seen this before so we could be like oh my god what is about to come up on the screen it's gonna be insane

26:43Ben Mandelker: i know also i feel like it's so funny like when ever since michelle obama said that thing everyone's been sort of subtly rebuting it they're like yeah or you just go lower like no one has ever been like we are gonna go higher it's like well i think for the four years

27:01Ronnie Karam: you know like she said that in a different time and then it just politically everything went so low that it's like when it seemed like there still wasn't the potential to go high at some

27:12Ben Mandelker: point that's no longer an option yeah again watch South Park last night and you'll know that when they go low you go lower definitely is the

27:20Ronnie Karam: new mantra yeah okay so Gertie so Lars is like oh my god that was like crazy like like why are we doing that like this is like not cool like like I don't like that like I'm sorry like so Gertie comes out and Lisa's like, I'm like at a loss for words and like that's not hard for me because I know like five. And the producer said...

27:42Ben Mandelker: You know what words I do remember? Here's some words I do remember. You're a narcissist. I'm a narcissist. You're a narcissist. Gun wine monkey. Gun wine monkey. You're the rotator and this crew monkey.

27:57Ronnie Karam: So this is where the producer tells Gertie like, what's the smoking gun here? And she said, well, the fact that she said I she's pretending I wanted to volunteer myself to go on this cruise but I physically walked out of that's crazy that is crazy so um then we see a flashback but Julia had said on camera well she volunteered to come with me in Martinez Place to support me so she never like begged to come

28:20Ben Mandelker: on this cruise she was she agreed to you know right and Gertie is like you know because she even says I thought you wanted to be here and I thought you would have enjoyed being here otherwise I would never have suggested that you join me and leave your consent. Russell, behind, you know, these texts show that I didn't beg my way onto the cruise I just left from. She asked me to, because she was distraught. So, Lars is like, you're going to do this in front of everybody? I don't like this, like. I mean, I started to read the text message, but it was so long. Like, once I got to the second sentence, I was like, what are we doing?

28:51The text message is this long? There's no even emoji in it. The fact that she's exploding text messages from strangers, like people that don't even know our friendships,

28:58Ben Mandelker: she's not even charging them that's pretty low i was cracking up at this too because this is so

29:03Ronnie Karam: larsa she's like so indignantly mad and she has no reason she doesn't even know why because she can't read anything that's more than two words she's like i started to read it but like wow it's like so long like i couldn't like even read it so i'm just gonna be like mad you didn't even know what the text message said i know she just knows that there were text messages and that very kyle Richard's coded. She's like, I'm not reading that. It's too long. It was way too long. So Carmen's like, wow, that came out of nowhere. And Stephanie's like, um, rule number one, you never send text messages because they save every single one of them.

29:40Ben Mandelker: Yep. Yep. Yep. And Alexia's like, oh, I hate texting. You know, I'm the one who picks up the phone and tells you whatever it is I have to tell you. Okay, so guess what, Gertie? Especially now, I'm not going to be texting you, especially not in front of Frankie, and I'm not going to be having any texting of the girls.

29:55Ronnie Karam: So Gertie is, Gertie's like, well, I promised we were not going to talk about anything in public. We were going to squash it and move forward. And at the Grecian party, she raised her hand and, yeah, honey, yeah, honey. So that's what I did. That's what I did. So Lisa's like, wow, note to self, don't fuck with her. Am I right? That was like a public shaming. It's like that TV show with that shame, shame. You know that show? What was that show? Family Guy? You know, there's like a lady walking. What is it? Little House on the Prairie. What is it?

30:22Ben Mandelker: Sale of the Century? What was it called? Game of Thrones.

30:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah, yeah. It was like the Game of Thrones. You don't watch Game of Thrones.

30:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, there's no way Lisa watched Game of Thrones. She would not be able to follow that.

30:34Ronnie Karam: Why is everyone so dirty?

30:36Ben Mandelker: Why are they a dragon?

30:38Ronnie Karam: Why do they have such big dogs?

30:44Ronnie Karam: So Mary's soul is like, nasty, sad up, wrapped around cancer. Oh, my God. And so Mary's soul is like, oh, God, take me to the loony, man. And El Chapo had it right. Underground tunnel. I want to escape.

30:58Ben Mandelker: Wow. You know what? I would like an underground colon that's clean like my own. So I can just climb right through it and get out of here. Am I right? Oh, God. I don't want to be here anymore. And so then she's like, it's just so fucking gross. I'm sorry. I just like, I can't be here anymore. Maris, I got Gertie. I got to go. I don't like this. I'm leaving. Okay, that's fine. That's whatever. It's called on camera. We're done here. No, I just, it's awful. You know what? Have an open heart. Have an open heart tonight.

31:23Ronnie Karam: oh i have an open heart i have an open heart it's like the most open heart like no one here has like a more open heart than me so okay whatever my my most open heart is empath okay empath bye yeah

31:36Ben Mandelker: i'm an empath so julia's gonna leave also and um so then adriana is like well you know she was upset that you asked the question with the guy i mean tried to talk to her she's like so then gertie is just like gertie's thrilled she's taking pictures she's posing with the thing that's like in me in my me era which by the way they're all in if i seem to

32:01Ronnie Karam: it's like is there any other is there any other era so uh lorenz and marisol alexi and julia all leave very very upset and they stand outside and gather around talking about how offended they are by this these moral upstanding you know pillars of society are just very upset so alexia is like um you know like she was just crying over cancer and stephanie says yeah you know my mom's a cancer survivor you know you don't take your cancer lightly like that and adriana's like different people do different things okay because adriana is mad at julia

32:35Ben Mandelker: because julia's hanging out with alexia so now adriana's like you know i'm friends with julia yes, but I'm also friends with Gertie and my position in this matter is to listen to both sides and then try to bring them back together which is a year ago she would have gone out with Julia, but now she's like, well basically she's saying, if you want to be friends with Lexia be friends with Lexia and see how she consoles you because I'm not coming out there to do it because you've already abandoned me

33:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Mary's still like wow, god, this is like the movie Carrie remember Carrie when they dumped blood on her you know, that's what I felt sitting like there I saw how my colon felt today. I was just sitting there, was invited to prom, and boom, you've got a finger touching here. You've got all sorts of liquids pouring all over. Someone's calling you a Nissan Juke out of nowhere.

33:20Ben Mandelker: Remember when they spilled blood on El Chapo's head? I mean, really, and he was climbing through that colon with the bloody head. It really makes all my metaphors. I'm throwing a lot out there at the people today. So then Gertie is like, well, that was a slap on the wrist to say don't fuck with me. That's all it was. Adriana's like, no, you have the right. You have the right to say it. She goes, thank you. Because she needs to learn a lesson. Because she manipulates people. She does the Betty Boop act. She does the whole, oh, I'm Julia. I'm Julia Betty Boop. And then everyone's like, oh, look at Betty Boop.

33:49Ben Mandelker: I never knew Betty Boop was Russian. And then she fucking stabs her in the back.

33:54Ronnie Karam: Betty Boop cuss. I should call her Betty Boop cuss. So then Stephanie goes out to where the other ladies are outside. And Alexei's like, oh, my God, I hope she doesn't come out here. She better not come out here. Because my heart is so open right now. and Stephanie's like um listen I'm just gonna stay neutral but I think you know it was wrong Marisol you know and it was that that was rude but like at the same time like I want to hear both sides and she goes and Alexia's like oh really you want to come from one side to the other and you want to stand your ground okay then if you want to be neutral then go in there and kiss Gertie's ass then because that is very this show like if you're not with Alexia and Marisol they will ice you they will ice you and I don't think it's ever been said out loud like this

34:35Ben Mandelker: so how could you say that alexia is an empath with an open heart i can't believe you would

34:39Ronnie Karam: say such things ronnie so alexia stephanie's like alexia calm down i'm just saying there's a difference between kissing someone's ass and hearing both sides and she's like oh really no because like you have to come here you have to go there so like if you have to go there then you go there but if you're out here you're out here so you decide where you're gonna be that's not what

34:57Ben Mandelker: i'm doing it's not what i'm doing okay i'm not kissing anyone's yeah no i'm not kissing anyone's You need to fucking shut the fuck up because I'm tired of you barking at me because you sit next to me. Okay, I'm tired. I'm trying to understand the friend group. I'm new to this and I just want to be neutral. And what's wrong with being neutral? What's wrong with being Switzerland? Maybe this is your room. Maybe because you're married to a crazy guy that made you think that this is your norm. Okay, that's not my norm.

35:21Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, don't say that. My calling can't take it. You leave me and my husband out of this because if your marriage was so great, you wouldn't be part of this shit show. Okay, you want to talk about Masood? Do you want to talk about my suit? Okay, let's keep it that way. Let's keep it that way then.

35:35Ben Mandelker: Don't tell me that I'm kissing anyone's ass.

35:37Ronnie Karam: Don't make it about you.

35:39Ben Mandelker: Okay, I'm not. I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you're very sensitive. You know, this is why I don't get along with sensitive people, you know, because you want to sit there and you want to be sensitive. Like, it doesn't work because I'm not sensitive because everyone's always getting their panties in such a bunch. Like, I'm a bunch of them. I'm a bunch of them. Let's go out. Let's move on.

35:54Ronnie Karam: So then Kiki's like, oh, my God, I just experienced a whole World War II outside. like Stephanie and Alexia going to kill each other. Like what's going on? Like, I can't even focus. Like everyone's on 10 out there. Like speak some tongues.

36:10Ben Mandelker: And meanwhile, outside Stephanie was like, Alexia, you have to be careful with how you speak to me. Sometimes.

36:14Ronnie Karam: Don't come for me every single time you're next to me. When we talk about all the,

36:18Ben Mandelker: all I said about Todd was that that party was rooted from the idea of Todd. And I will, I will never bring up Todd again.

36:25Ronnie Karam: So, uh, Julia is leaving a voice note from our, yeah, exactly. So Julia leaves a voice note for Martina. She's like, I'm on my way home. Please don't fall asleep. I'll be home soon, my love. I'll be home soon. Goodbye, my love. God bless you. Julia is really playing it up. I will never recover from text messages that had nothing in them incriminating were put up on the screen. It was so horrible seeing. pretty standard back and forth text messages trying to clarify a situation up on screen so now alexi and stephanie are still going at it and alexi's like oh we don't want to talk about our husbands and she's like oh well i don't want to talk about husbands either i'm just saying i'm not kissing someone's ass listen to me and larsa's like we expected to like come to like church to

37:18Ben Mandelker: like celebrate good in like a church like i've never been in a church oh my god oh my god we're in a church god we're i can't believe we're in a church with el chapo's tunnels with carrie's blood all over the place and my clean colon sucking everything out i just like did like a flip video for my only fans content right there in that little sink oh my god that's the holy water alexia goes what denomination is this church i have to know how outraged i have to be

37:50Ronnie Karam: so um stephanie is like do you do i think you're too good for todd yes does it matter to you no okay so i never want to hurt your feelings about todd i will never bring him up again and so she's like okay okay then okay then okay i appreciate it so they made up so this is where i kind of started swinging towards stephanie's side a little bit because i was like you know she didn't cower she didn't run away exactly make it a huge deal and you can tell that she's had fights with people a lot to where she's like just calm down okay yeah she's like i'm telling you

38:19Ben Mandelker: what i think and like you're getting mad at me i will get mad also and then we'll settle down but like i i just i there was something about the way she handled it that i really really enjoyed so then adriana goes outside there's so much going inside and outside and inside out so but adriana's outside now and um and adriana's like no i don't like the stuff like that but everyone leaving is not cool either and marissa's like well this is so humiliating they're right in front of Well, Chapo, I've got all that blood everywhere. It's the most horrible thing I've seen in my life. So Adriana goes to check in with Julia.

38:50Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Adriana comes out and she's like, no, go in there and show your text messages then.

38:54Ben Mandelker: She's like, no, I will not stoop.

38:55Ronnie Karam: So Adriana's advice. She goes, no, but you have to. You know the truth. You know her truth. And she's telling you her truth. So don't run, you know. And she's like, I'm not running. But I have nothing to say to Gertie and nothing to justify.

39:10Ben Mandelker: Adriana being like, no, go back in there and be petty. show your text messages that's so 100 % how adriana operates like this is an opportunity for you and

39:18Ronnie Karam: then inside gurney's like i'm a warrior honey and i'm gonna release what no longer serves me and when shit goes down i'm gonna cry i'm gonna laugh i'm gonna freaking scream i'm gonna put up posters of text messages i don't care and you know what it's my me era period end of story it's my party and i can do whatever i want dun dun dun dun dun yeah and that was it it was so good

39:41Ben Mandelker: I just was like ah ah it's so wonderful I love it I love it I love it people should be watching I know that if you got this far in the recap you most likely are watching this show I know there are some people who just listen to us without watching the shows and that's great too but you really should watch this show because it's so excellent it's so entertaining it's so great

40:07Ronnie Karam: yes love you Miami thanks for being here everybody we will talk to you next time. Bye. Watch what

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