#2946 RHOA S16E20 Part 1: Oakley-Dokily

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1:55Ben Mandelker: What happens when there's so much that crappens? There's so much what crappens. Oh, I mean, don't be the crappens. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the Angie K. sunglass, Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Happy Monday. Well, hello. Happy Monday, everybody. It's a big Monday for us in these parts, in these crappings parts, because we are about to recap the final installment of the Atlanta reunion. And then later today at 4 p.m.

2:39Ben Mandelker: Pacific, 7 p.m. Eastern, we are going back onto Amazon Live and decided to theme today's Amazon Live self-care, self-care. so ron is going to talk about skincare stuff i'm going to recommend some healthy cookbooks and we're going to have a really fun time so join us we we are like two little kids on there we have so much fun so join us on amazon live at four o 'clock and then after that the live ness continues because we have crappy hour at 5 30 and you can catch that on our youtube channel and it's simulcast also onto our Instagram. And we have a special guest on tonight's crappy hour. We have Misha from The Big Flop.

3:26So did I say that right?

3:28Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Okay. I'm like, you know, when you say a word and you're like, did I say that correctly? Did I say the syllables correctly? Yes, because it's like every other word for me. But anyway, we're going to be a crappy hour. We have Misha on. He's great. We've done his show a few times and we are excited to have him on our show to talk the latest Bravo gossip and news and whatever else is on our minds. So come join us really all afternoon and evening. And then we're going to after this, we're going to record our bonus episode, which is going to be about our trip to Vegas this weekend where I went to see Beyonce and we both met up and saw the Backstreet Boys and had VIP backstage access.

4:13So join us for that. That would be a fun one.

4:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it was great. So we'll tell you all the details. Wow. Well, I feel like we were VVIP. I felt like it was Chanel Ion level. It felt that way. That's how I felt. And yeah, we can't wait to tell you all the fun details of going to the sphere and everything. So that's coming up. But for right now, it's time to put a button on the season of Atlanta. And we pick up with Portia and Shamia, and they are still angry at each other. and they're mad. And I think where we left off was talking about the mothers and, you know, some assorted backstory between the mothers. Yes, we started getting into the daycare fight of Real Housewives of Atlanta moms.

5:02So Andy's like, well, Shamia, I did see that Portia did a birthday post for you. So that was nice. I mean, in Housewives world, well, that's basically as good as anything else you're going to ever get. And Shamia's like, yeah, that was really sweet. Oh, by the way, did you see Shamia's Instagram? Shamia, you know, Shamia has tested my nerves. I think a lot of the audience's nerves where she's like nice, but she hasn't really delivered, I think, the way that we've all wanted to. But I have to say she did an Insta post yesterday that really delivered to me, delivered to my heart. It was Shamia. It was like a professionally done video, you know, of course, because she's rich as hell.

5:40and it's in her gorgeous home and she's sitting on a couch and the music is like piano tinkling sad piano music it's like tinkle tinkle tinkle and she sits down and she moves her hair and she's like guys I I my family and friends have never steered me wrong and so I'd like to tinkle tinkle Tinkle, dramatic music. She's like, I'd like to sincerely apologize. Starting with Portia. And then she names all the ladies. She just names everybody. To Phaedra, even Phaedra, who just got here. To Kelly. To Britt. To Kenya. To Angela. To Kim Zolciak. To Nene Leaks. To Andy Cohen. To Darren Karp, Andy Cohen's famous assistant.

6:32to anybody I could possibly apologize to, I would just like to sincerely say, I'm sorry if I did anything to offend you. Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. I was like, oh, wow, thanks. Like a five-minute apology video that says nothing. It's like the biggest sorry if I've ever seen. And I cracked up that whole damn time. So, good for you, Shamia. You know, funniest shit you did all season. Nice work.

6:59Ben Mandelker: Yeah, good for you, Shamia. um yeah so yeah so yeah she's they have this whole nanny like the not nanny uh daycare fight and um and and portia's accusing chamia of like launching a smear campaign against her and this is where portia's like why are you fighting with me and chamia's like why are you fighting with me because you're lying she's like and you think you don't think you've been lying too what have i been lying about you posted about my mom saying she did something egregious to your mom, which as we all know, the most egregious thing you can do is buy someone's daycare out of foreclosure.

7:37Ben Mandelker: I mean, it's really just, I don't even like to say it out loud. I don't like the words to come out of my lips because it's so ominous. Yeah. And she's like, why are you even bringing up my mom? She's like, you know, she did something egregious. So what did she do? And Shamia is like, well, listen, if anybody asked me about your mom, I say that's not my business. But now we're going to find out the story, which is what we thought last week. Portia tells us that the moms were best friends. They were both in the childcare industry and they both, you know, they would give tips back and forth, you know, like we can't technically beat the kids because they're not our kids, but we can use fly swatters or suggest they lick their finger and stick it in a light socket when they misbehave stuff like that you know just innocent stuff like that but you know then portia's mom's location was going under foreclosure and shamiya's mom went behind portia's mom's back and she bought it as soon as it went on foreclosure to which i say pay your rent pay your rent what is she supposed to do go pay your rent for you pay your rent yeah yeah exactly i want to know the backstory Why did I go into foreclosure?

8:49Ben Mandelker: Why was that daycare not as well attended? Or was it well attended, but it was poorly run? Let's get into it. Let's get into the nitty gritty of what went down with, I don't know, a true sunshine daycare. I don't know if it's called that. I'm just going to call it that. True sunshine. You know, when I was a little kid, my family owned a daycare. Did you know this? Of course they did. No, I had no. Was it the bowling alley? No, it was called Community of Faith. and it was a Christian daycare and my family owned it. I was raised, I went to that school and there was a lot of drama in the daycare industry.

9:25So I get it guys, like I get it. I'm a hardened, listen, at like three years old, I became a hardened daycare industry vet. So I totally get it. And let me tell you who I haven't spoken to since I was four, four or five, the mixers who ended up taking over that daycare. Now, was there drama? I don't know. did we just grow apart after i was five i don't know but i can tell you this knowing the mixers it probably was egregious so if i could ever find robbie or david mixer again i would fight with them over their mother and father being egregious towards my parents so egregious faith egregious

10:02Ben Mandelker: and kathy lee it's just really it's awful wait a second was the uh were the mixers related to the um anchor woman who was mean to your mom no that was totally that was totally separate but i think there was some drama because the original daycare there was another daycare that started and that was just when i was born so i don't remember it but my parents should not be shocked i was gay because guess what it was called fairyland and then that turned that somehow morphed into this new business called community of faith so actually now that we're talking about it i need to interview with my parents and get the drama because daycare drama is suddenly in again it's in i have a book on my hands it's the new hot it's the new hot topic daycare daycare drums like and it's actually nice because sometimes when when there is daycare drama it's like the worst scariest kind of drama it's like the disturbing kind that you get like really upset about it's like the whatever that that james wood movie about the daycare and but then um but like petty daycare drama it's really It's a refreshing twist on an old standard.

11:09Ben Mandelker: So I applaud it, you know? Yeah. So, uh, Portia is like, yeah. And you know, you know how my mom found out about it was because her friend bought her business. Cause we drove past it and she was putting up the sun. Why do I feel like I don't, I don't not believe that Shamia's mom was up on that ladder, hoisting up the sign as miss Diane came driving by. Unless on the other hand, I completely believe it. If Shamia's mom is, we need to meet Shamiya's mom more so we can know how petty she is. Because is she the type of mom

11:43Ben Mandelker: and just be like, oh, here she comes. They start to hoist the sign up or is Portia just being... I hope she's super petty. I hope they pass that daycare and she was putting up an upside down picture of Miss Diane with a mustache on her. Yeah. Miss Diane is gone now. She's gone. So So they have a little fight about this, but we don't get too far into it, which is really upsetting because that would have given me more chances to go talk about Fairyland and Community of Faith. Well, there's some there's some disagreement here because Shamia says that they they were the moms weren't talking for years prior.

12:25Ben Mandelker: And so like it wasn't like Shamia's mom bought the business and Diane was like, enough with this lady. there already was a rift. And so it's almost like, no, her pettiness was justified because it came as a result of many years of pettiness between the women. So this was just another step that they took. But Portia's making it sound like, no, she was pretending to be a good friend, but then she went and vultured this business. Well, don't you see the similarities? Because it's exactly what these people are doing right now. it's exactly what their daughters are doing all these years later they're having a fight about one thing but then portia's like no no i didn't go to your wedding you know because we were beefing before that we've that was a big revelation this year like it wasn't just because of my leg my leg circulation it's also because we were fighting and so you know they're they're doing you know we follow the same patterns as our parents which is why i'm still terrible at bowling or holding on to daycare centers.

13:27Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. That's really, really difficult. I'm still ordered by mixers all these years later. It's why I still love Tina Turner. I just follow my mom's footsteps. So, um, so Portia's denying it. Portia was saying that they didn't have a longstanding beef before then. And she may have saying it was, it did happen that way. And she said that she's like, you know, they were not talking about some other stuff and I don't want to speak on it. I don't want to speak on it. And you know, it's gonna be some stupid thing. Like someone like, like Diane, you know, borrowed Shamia's mom's, you know, Dodge Dart and like got a ding in it.

14:02Ben Mandelker: And that, that caused this whole generational trauma. Not the Dodge Dart. Damn. Not the elephant in the room. Georgia. Georgia comes in from next gen New York City. So Andy's like, well, there's a few things happening here. My knee is asleep. I didn't even know knees could sleep. And you know, there were accusations of chattering behind each other's back. And Portia's like, no, no, not each other's. And Shamia's like, yes, each other's for sure, because she loved to sit there and chatter with Brit. Which, you know, as I think Portia points out right now, I agree with, this isn't a fair comparison because she didn't sit around chattering with her about it.

14:42Brit brought her, you know, a bone. So she, what is she supposed to do? She was like, she's just coming to me to tell me what you said. I didn't sit there and chatter with her about it. and she didn't even give in to Brit and talk shit about you. She said, whatever, I'm fine with Shamia. I'll work that out with Shamia.

14:58Ben Mandelker: Right, and Cynthia verifies this. She's like, yeah, it was Brit who came up and showed the text messages. And Cynthia's like, and in that moment, Portia, I was like, let it go, let it go, let it go. Thank you, Cynthia. So Portia's like, yeah, we had a beautiful relationship prior to the show before she tried to come for my job. And Shamia's like, we did. we did but once we start filming she took it she took it to the left to the left all the friendship in the box to the left and she goes oh yeah i did it was all me it was all me i mean from what we saw it was you you know i i think what did porsche ever do well that's not true i take it back because there was that thing at the bank where porsche was like oh is that drew song that sounds just like true so it's not totally innocent here i think porsche was i don't think porsche liked shamiya being on her show despite everything she said i think she didn't i don't think she liked it although she does and he does i don't see anything that she did to say that i thought that thing that she did in the bank party was shady but all i've seen is shamiya talking about porsche not being a good friend the whole season to everybody to people that weren't porsche's friends to the point where it kept coming back to Portia over and over again.

16:14So as far as that goes, all I really see is from, I only see that from Shamia's side. I don't remember Portia ever doing anything to her except for that. That sounds like Drew's song or whatever. Yeah.

16:26Ben Mandelker: I think the thing is, I think that like a lot of the stuff is just, I think there's probably just, obviously there's pent up stuff from over the years. Like the fact that we were going back into the issue about Shamia's wedding and now Portia admits that it was actually, I didn't go because I was angry at you. Like, you know, I think, I think Shamia has just been in the sidekick role for a long time. And now she stepped up from being a sidekick and she's kind of like vomiting all her issues all over the place, which is her own fault. But I don't, I also don't think that Portia, I'm not sure Portia is comfortable with Shamia not being a sidekick.

17:00You think everyone's uncomfortable with Portia not being a sidekick?

17:04Ben Mandelker: No, I think Portia is not comfortable. Sorry. I think Portia is not comfortable with Shamia no longer in the sidekick role. I think she says she wants Shamia to be on the show, but I don't think that she... I think the reality of it is that I don't know if she really loves it. Like, you know, I still remember she showed up like really late to Shamia's like opening season party and then shows up right when Shamia is like having this big in the spotlight moment. So Portia kind of like undermines that. There was like the, there was the moment in the bank with the singing and I don't know. I just feel like...

17:37Ben Mandelker: up i think there's blood on both their hands here you know i just think there's something i think that porsche is slick i think she's really slick and i think she's a diva and she has a she has a track record of being a diva and wanting things her way and you know i think i think shamia did not handle it well at all and she got really clocked for it uh at this reunion for for really just not being emotionally honest about like how she truly feels about a situation which is why she's in this while she's in the stinking mess in the first place but i think that porsche is not innocent no i don't think she's innocent i just think that um if you're friends with porsche you're not going to be shocked that porsche shows up late because i'm not friends with porsche but i've watched his show and i know that porsche is late for everything like literally this is the first time she's even showed up to half the things on time remember the last season she was on she was not showing up at all she was she would show up like six hours after an event like every time They'd be like, Portia, are you even going to come film the show?

18:37You know? Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. You know, look, I don't think Portia is completely innocent. But I think as far as what we've seen on the show, it's been mostly Shamia started. And then Shamia acts like, what? I didn't do any of that. And she's just not honest about it. Like when Portia said last week, like, you had two weddings. I went to the local wedding. She's like, no, we didn't have a local wedding. And everyone's like, yes, you did have a local wedding. And then we find out that she did have a local wedding. It was like the dowry ceremony or something. I forget what it's called.

19:05Sorry, I don't mean to be culturally insensitive. I literally, when it comes to weddings, I block them out because it usually means I have to buy shit for people that I barely know. But she did go to that. Portia was like a bridesmaid in her local ceremony. And then they had another one in Kenya that she didn't go to. But, you know, it's just the way that Shamia kind of skirts around things that I don't know that I would call her a liar because I like Shamia at the end of the day. but she's not 100 % truthful with the way she relays stuff.

19:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's why she's getting, she's sort of, they are kind of giving her some slaps on the wrist for not being honest about how she feels. But like last episode, they're like, Shamia, you're not over it. She's like, I'm over it. Like, you're not, you have to be honest. You're not over it. You know, whatever it was they were talking about last week. So she does need to communicate better about these things. But I also think, you know, well, she also needs to communicate smarter. i think it's okay to vent about a friend who is like if a friend is frustrating you and you need to sort of vent a little bit you can vent to your friends but don't vent to your co-stars because they're going to bring it right to the other person and and center you in some sort of drama and that's really what what happened to her here so just a life lesson be careful who you talk to be careful be careful too i mean come on guys can't just be and if you do talk if you do talk shit just when if you get confronted with it just be like yep i was talking shit what moving on yeah it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial i love sandwiches i eat a sandwich almost every single day of my life and the best part of a sandwich is the bread there can be a little carb guilt with bread eating but not with hero bread Guess what?

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23:27Ben Mandelker: So Andy is like, well Shamil, is there anything that happened during the season that you could apologize for take ownership for right now yes I apologize and if you just give it a few months I will be releasing a very evocative video on my social media with a soundtrack to flesh this out but I do own talking about my friendship problems with Porsche to these ladies these fuckers over here and they're everyone on the sofas like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa she's like I just wish I had a third party here. You mean like a therapist? Because that sounds like who you should be talking to. I'd like to sing my new song Daycare, dedicated to Portia.

24:13Daycare, daycare. You care about daycare, but do you care about me in the day?

24:27Ben Mandelker: So, So, um, Drew's like, I never ran back with anything. I never ran back. And she's like, yeah, you know, I wish I had somebody on my side because you all said she feels that she feels the friendship was lopsided. But, you know, those are things that you guys were feeling. And Angela's like, that's not what I said. And she's like, well, but then when it was taken to Portia, it was said like how that was how I felt, even though it was you guys saying the friendship was lopsided. but then it sounded like I was saying the friendship was lopsided even though I'm completely saying right now that the friendship is lopsided I never said that to you guys which is just like that's what I'm talking about she talks herself in these circles like you've already told us 10 times in this reunion you feel the relationship was lopsided so why are you arguing that you never said you thought the relationship was lopsided she's like I feel the relationship is lopsided but I never told you guys that I thought it was lopsided you guys just figured that out and told her but i never said that to you even though that's how i feel truly yeah i never said the word lopsided but i just described the friendship as lopsided which made you guys describe it that way to her how dare you okay and this is another reason ben that um shamia is kind of on my nerves because of all the instagrams that have been posted okay so here's one from porsche a round of applause for my bestie shamia clapping clapping emojis welcome to real housewives of Atlanta as an official housewife.

25:50Peach, finally, let's get this show on the road and light these screens up. Love you, congratulations, and happy birthday. Love you long time. Queen Wongi has entered the chat. Peach holder, over 20 years of friendship. Hashtags, two girls dancing hashtags. Pia, and then this is another one. Shamia Morton lying again in her latest post. She claims flowers were for her birthday when the card I sent on the flowers clearly say congratulations. Going out sad, sis, to Lulu, and you better not edit it either. Then we see a Shamia post that says, again, I had one wedding that took place in Nairobi, Kenya.

26:26What you attended was my dowry ceremony in my mom's backyard. Second, you sent flowers on my birthday week just before we started filming. I'd had my peach for over a month. So I said we never celebrated. You can keep your fake receipts with your fake-ass friendships.

26:42Ben Mandelker: Well, I mean, I don't know. this is what's always so tricky is that the Porsche thing it's like well that's pretty that's pretty clear that Porsche was celebrating Shamia but then Shamia's like yeah back that up it like you waited like we never celebrated and then you post something on social media that makes it look like like you're being supportive friend there's also right but like with the card but like this is like an age-old housewife thing which is like oh you do something that's performative for the masses to make it look like you're being a supportive friend but actually privately you're not being supportive at all but you're just letting people think that that's like i think what shamia is saying here and we've seen this happen before on housewives you know like like you never called me you you waited until this reunion you like you like you made it a public thing so it's really it's hard to gauge on this one for me i don't know i just for me like i think i'm thank you i um i understand ben it's tough it's tough being a recapper sometimes but um i think that like my bias i mean i get no no i think it was funny it's funny like like as recappers we're like consoling each other like it's hard sometimes but i think that like i i bring to this season you know many seasons of porsche um and especially like her final season that you You mentioned where she was late to things and she like was not necessary.

28:09Ben Mandelker: She really was like not dialed in or she's very self-producing and, and she would leave a trip early cause she didn't want to do it anymore in a way where she was like acting like she was bigger than the show. And I just have to imagine like that, that energy just doesn't go away overnight necessarily. But although it's been a few years to be fair. So I just, for me, I guess I bring that into this season is remembering that Portia who like as As much as I love Portia, I know there's that side of her. And I can imagine that that side is a very difficult side to deal with in a friendship. Yeah. Yeah.

28:44I guess to me, it just looks like Shamia, you know, has a bunch of built up stuff. But she got on this show and she's like, I need something. So I'm coming for my best friend and I'm going to just go. And she doesn't have enough to really come after her. She should have really held off until season two or three, because a natural progression on a housewife show is to get annoyed. so by you know we all know that alliances whenever someone's like oh my god this is my bestie that they're going to be fighting within a year you know within like the second season of that friendship and so she she really needed to just water this and let the resentments grow because i think right now they're just too much i mean the fact that somebody sent you a whole bouquet of white roses was best you know one of your bridesmaids in your wedding that you're pretending wasn't really a wedding and then did all this stuff, sent you the, made you a post, which may not sound like a big deal, but these women are fame whores, all of them and everyone on Bravo, not just the women.

29:38We're just talking about women today, but these people on Bravo are all fame whores. And so, yeah, someone with millions of followers making a post saying, welcome at Shamia Morton to this thing. That is a big deal. You know, it's like, she's saying, go follow this chick, you know? So that's, that's a gift to a fame hungry person. So, I mean, I feel like after doing all of that and then coming back and being like, you didn't do anything, you don't want me on this show, and you didn't support me is completely crazy when you were the one coming for her all season and trying to make her look like a bad friend.

30:05So that's kind of where I'm standing with the whole thing. I don't really hate anybody. I'm just proud of Portia. I'm just giving Portia so much credit for just showing up for half of her scenes this year. For me, that goes a long way. I'm like, look, it's her. She's actually here.

30:19Ben Mandelker: She had a better dress at the reunion. I'll say that. I think also that, um, I forgot what I was going to say. I forgot. I was, it was some really good point. So just pretend I made, I just made like a great point. And you guys are like, that was a great point. Well, you know what? I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what you just want out of me. Silence. I don't know what it was. Oh, I was going to say, actually, really, if, if Shamia did come on to the show purely to litigate like old beefs with Portia and to like, you know, air out all her grievances. She should have like, I agree that she should have waited a little bit.

30:55Ben Mandelker: So that way we cared more because I have to say, ultimately, even though we are somehow debating this for 10 minutes, I don't actually care very much about their falling out and their beef. Like I don't, I didn't feel like I had enough buy-in on it because there were other things on the show that were distracting me away from it. And so, um, I think I would have like maybe waited so that way it could be a more central thing and in fact if anything this season should have been about them being besties like we knew that they're besties but we needed to really see them as main character energy besties that we could we could get into so that way next season the trailer could be like black and white like bum bum bum like oh my gosh me and porsha aren't talking anymore whereas this season sort of like shimia was there she's she's on the show and she's sort of she has some resentments towards Porsche and okay you need to build a reunion you can crash it down yeah you know that was if it's not a demo like if you're if you're watching a building get demolished that's amazing like when they demolish those old casinos in Vegas you know they're like oh we're finally getting rid of the desert in or whatever and it's like this huge thing and it's all over the news but without the building it's just some bomb going off you know who cares like we need destruction we need destruction build it up yeah we need it you need to be as dramatic as possible don't take off the first three stories and then demolish demolish the whole thing yeah um so uh i'm glad i think we figured that one out i feel really good about that we fixed that season yeah um yeah okay so then um drew's like well when we went to lunch there was never a question um asked you how drew talks sometimes like she's she lawyers things and in arguments she's like well when we went to lunch there was never a question asked you by me or angela about the nature of your relationship with porsche it almost felt like you needed to get it out and shimmy is like well um and she goes and we were just giving you a safe space and she goes well apparently that wasn't a safe space and she goes well i didn't take it back to porsche and angela's like i did i did it and shimmy is like well you took it back wrong wrong well the point is that you had to pinky square because because pinky swear because you wanted to divulge this and it was something very heavy on you which by the way if that is true um you guys are shitty you guys broke the pinky swear you guys broke broke the pinky like this was something that was weighing heavily on you and it meant a lot to you and was important and you wanted our secrecy which is why we then told portia there's no pinky swearing on housewives no he definitely has not and the only reason you share information like that with other cast members on housewives is so that they can bring it forward you know there's no like oh i just really need to get off this i need to get something really personal off my chest so you know who i'm going to trust people on a tv show no you tell them when you want to carry the what you know to carry the bags for you yeah all right all right all right it almost sounds to me like you've had a harder time with what's happened after the show portion would you like to elaborate yeah so there's a friendship group that we have a private friendship group they're they're they're private friendship group they they're their friendship for money they'll do what they want you to do sorry i i knew you were gonna do that i know you were gonna and you could you could hear me grinding you could hear me grinding to a halt trying to figure out how to do it and then i stuttered it out

34:33Ben Mandelker: so she says basically she's like that there are ladies there's some ladies in the friendship group and Shamia told them that Portia didn't want Shamia to be a peach holder and that Portia didn't congratulate her so it was like these are the third parties it's the private friendship group which i'm assuming are like the women who are at the other end of the table during the nashville party but like private friends yeah like the private friends the tv friends and she's like so the private friends are saying the same things that the tv friends are which means you are going to literally everybody you see and talking shit why are you lying and she's like andy have i always wanted shimia to be on this show and he's like yeah that is true that is true i mean remember the first time you begged me we said boring he said no the second time we said awful you said no the third time we said terrible please don't let her sing and finally all these years later it worked so yeah jamia's just like thanks this feels great yeah remember what i said shamia should definitely be on the shows Yeah, and you said Shamia should be on the show so I could just shit on her, right?

35:44Ben Mandelker: No, I never said that part. Quiet, Andy. So Portia's like, so moving on. Now I'm watching live interviews and someone asks you, like, where's your friendship stand? And you say, well, now that I have a peach, it's different. Why? And Shamia's like, it is. It is different. But I never talked about you, Shamia. I'm watching interviews. Are you saying I don't want you on the show? You sang a song about it. She basically is saying, like, I never did this stuff. And you're talking all this shit about me right now. Yeah. And she's like, oh, really, Shamia? She says, girl, are you serious? Like, you all had that conversation together saying that I was screwing Candy and Todd.

36:20And I didn't do that to myself. And Portia's like, nobody was sabotaging your marriage. So now they're kind of talking over each other. And Shamia's saying, I said you could have. I didn't say you ruined my engagement. I said you could have ruined my engagement had he listened to you too. and Portia was like well they're saying you would have played a part in sabotaging your own engagement at that time and she goes okay okay and Portia goes because I kissed Candy in the club and you kissed Candy in the club so now we're going back to the Candy in the club kissing I mean this all ends on that one season and Shamia's like well what we're not gonna do and Kelly's just like did she just say that they both kissed Candy in the club and we never go back to that but

37:01Ben Mandelker: yeah so Portia's like well you know you brought up this stuff from 10 years ago and I just, I do as many press days as you do. Okay. And possibly more because I've been on the show a little bit more. Right. Everyone's like shade. She goes, it wasn't a dig. It wasn't a dig. I'm just like, you know, I've done more press and like, it was a dig. It's like, what I'm trying to say is I've been asked the exact same questions that you were asked and I've never disparaged our, our relationship whatsoever. And I thought we had a beautiful friendship. Yeah. And, um, assuming is like, yeah, well I thought we did too.

37:34but then i found out you didn't come to the wedding in kenya because of the beefing also because it was in kenya that's far that is far that is far honestly that's that's a very far

37:45Ben Mandelker: that's a that's more than a destination wedding that's like a that's a let's that's like you know if you like go up to colonize mars you're not coming back like you're going far it's too so uh so kelly so andy asks basically and she's he points out that kelly and shamiya have become very close. So he asked Kelly what her thoughts are. And Kelly's answer is like, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang, clang. Seriously. I kept thinking my ring, my door, my ring thing was going off. Because sometimes it literally made like the chong, chong sound that the ring makes.

38:18It was like, she's like, well Andy,

38:22Ben Mandelker: that's a really good question. And like me and Shamia built a beautiful bond and like a beautiful friendship with each other. And I always tell her I really hope and pray that her and Portia can just figure this out. I just want her to tell her how you really feel. And like, this is a good moment to tell her because some of us who are going through long divorces don't have these moments. Okay. I'm getting divorced. It was like lunchtime in a Luby's every time she talks, the seniors, those bangles clanking on their plates over and over again, trying to find the bottom of the fish with manis on top.

38:55Ben Mandelker: You know, they need to attach those, those little felt pads that you put at the bottom of your chair to protect floor. They just attach them in between the different bangles that way they don't clank as much listen we've been through clanking i mean girl yeah i mean everybody's earrings like are any of you worried about your ear holes like can we get some ear hole psa's from somebody because geez yeah i mean yeah drew secretly had massive earrings i love that drew put on these enormous enormous earrings then put her hair all the way over them so you don't even notice the big earrings until like the end of the show i'm like why do you even have the big earrings if you're gonna hide them i don't know but the clanking was out of control and listen we've been through clanking we've been through Asa on Shaza Sunset we've been through Saza on Sunset Reunions there's a lot of gold moving around in those but this was really this is next level so Kelly is like yeah you know this is a good moment to tell her you know you need to tell her how you really feel Shamia and Portia's like this is not her moment you know what her moment was when we had our final moment you know what her moment was when I called her and talked to her about it And Kelly's like, no, it's her moment.

40:01Let her have her moment. Clink, clink, clink, clink, clink, clink. Let her have her moment. Clink, clink, clink. And Portia's like, you know, now it's just a beat up on Portia's section. And she's like, girl, nobody's beating up on you, Portia. Let her have her moment. Now, Shamia. And Shamia's like, thank you. When we sat one-on-one, I thought we had a very clean slate and we were moving forward. And then I noticed she was distancing herself from me. I mean, even around Lundy's funeral time, I'm reaching out like, hey, can we link up, girl? Can you believe that? She was ignoring me during someone's funeral.

40:35Ben Mandelker: And I'm not trying to discredit that you were grieving. All I'm trying to say is that I was continuing to try to reach out, to hang out and to hook up. And Portia's like, whatever. She's like, see, look, even the way you just did that, the way you rolled your eyes, that's dismissive. Yeah, because you're using the things against me. She's like, but do you see what I'm saying? Can you ever phrase a sentence without trying to make me look bad? She's like, no, because I'm trying to make you look bad. Yeah. Like, let a girl have goals. But yeah, she's, Portia's like, I was, I'm grieving my cousin, and you're using me not calling you back right after my cousin died as an example of me being a bad friend.

41:17Like, can I grieve my cousin with you without you even making me look like a terrible person? And she's like, how dare you not call me from the gravesite? I wanted to have lunch that day. And so Shamia's like, well, I wouldn't have even known there was beef unless, wait, I wouldn't have even known that there was any beef unless Cynthia didn't tell me. Unless I think that means Cynthia told me. I told Portia, like, what did Brit had done? And after I saw them hanging out and then posting, I'm like, okay, so she made her decision. I basically told her that Brit, you know, said all this stuff and she's still hanging out with Brit.

41:53And Brit, she's like, that had nothing to do with you. What are you talking about? What you did was what you did. Me hanging out with Brit has nothing to do with you.

42:00Ben Mandelker: It really got into the weeds at this point. This is one of those points where I was like, just sort of like letting the words wash over me. I'm like, the takeaway is they're angry at each other and they're just saying things because they're talking about the friendship and like, well, you became friends with Kelly, not because of this, because of that, but you like Kelly and of course I like Kelly. And so Kelly is like - Well, for me, it's Portia is mad at certain things that Shamia said or did, interviews or things that she said to the other girls. Shamia is mad about all of these little things that don't even have any concrete, she can't even say a concrete thing.

42:34Like you said this to this person. It's just like, I feel like you didn't want me on the show. I feel like you chose Britt over me in that moment because you should have not liked her after I told her stuff that she showed me the texts or whatever all this stuff is. So, I mean, I kind of understand one side of it. And I'm kind of glad that Portia is keeping up on her. like what are you even coming at me for now because everything she's bringing up to me just seems silly at this point i can't get mad at anything and you know that i'd love to get angry i'm filled with rage all the time and i'm just not i don't even feel it and that's sad you can't even fill me with rage yeah you know what i'm mad at today because i parked yesterday somewhere and they left a little parking ticket under my windshield and um i didn't want to get out of the car and take it off and so it's been flapping under my windshield wiper and so i literally woke up today like should i call somebody because i'm pissed what if it rained i was thinking what if it rained and then i would have been stuck there with a windshield wiper with this crusty shit on it and it would have ruined the thing and the next time i want to use it it would have screwed my window and that would have cost me hundreds of goddamn dollars wait was this the oh i thought

43:44Ben Mandelker: you were saying like you got a traffic ticket just like the little tag that they put in actually when it rains I find in my experience okay everyone we're going to get deep here my experience is whenever they put those tags on I have often been lazy and I just let it sit there under the windshield wiper and then I'm like well maybe I'll try to wipe it off and you do the windshield wiper because your peels will fly off which is actually not bad because I think that's actually technically littering so pretend I never said that but also pretend I never said the following so it'll never release it's like I'm staying here you must hand pluck me off but i do find that once there's actually some like moisture from like rain or like a spritz then the ticket's like whoa and then it like sticks to the windshield more and it releases itself from the windshield wiper and then it it disappears into the ether i'm not saying i do a tiny little well that's what's gonna happen because i'm not taking it out myself and then yesterday i was driving and then i was like okay you know when you try and turn on the windshield wiper and then grab it with your hand but it's too far down it's too far down on the windshield wiper and so i was driving and i was like you know holding the steering wheel and then i'm reaching out of the car and i was like i'm gonna die like this because that person left my thing here i'm gonna call someone tomorrow and tell them i died i'm just gonna be like hi this is a call from a ghost of a person that could still be on this earth had it not been for you leaving a parking ticket thing at the very bottom of my windshield.

45:10I couldn't even get it when I was driving. And now I'm dead.

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48:15Ben Mandelker: Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. Anyway, my point is, I can get rageful over anything, and Shamia can't even make me mad. And that's a bad sign for a housewife. So Portia's like, well, I think it's odd for you to go sit after you and Britt had that conversation about me. Because Kelly's like, well, that friendship's very different. And Kelly's like, well, I think your friendship with Britt is very calculated. And Britt's not your friend. Britt can care less about what you have going on. Okay, Kelly, but you were friends with her this whole season. And while you could use Brit as a weapon against everybody else, she was fine with you.

48:51But then when that weapon was turned on you, now you have this big problem with her. So you don't really have a whole lot of credence in this.

48:59Ben Mandelker: You know, like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you start to get mad, because it seemed like you weren't mad all this recap, but you're just about to get mad right now. Let me stop you right now. Cynthia, where could these do you go? You've been sitting in the same exact position for four hours. You haven't even moved. This is amazing. Are you a statue? You've just been sitting there nodding your head while you're squinting your eyes. Like you just feel terrible about everything. What do you have to say, Cynthia? Any advice, Auntie Cynthia? And Cynthia's like, well, as someone who's been on the show for 900 years, I'd just like to say, whenever I'm sad, I sit on my countertops.

49:39Or I walk around my countertops. Or I lean on my countertops. because countertops can change a girl's life. All right. Thank you. Thank you to the love of Cynthia's life, the countertops of the lake house. Thank you. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.

49:54Ben Mandelker: Well, this year was the most difficult year ever, and it really was, and I'm literally at the bottom. Ah. And Patrick goes, depleted. Yeah. So, at this... I laughed at that. Patrick just goes, hmm, depleted. Yeah. Not a single pleat left on my pants. So, at this space and time of my life, I just want to be exactly where I feel comfortable. And I do not feel comfortable within my friendship with Shamia. And as I'm sure she doesn't feel comfortable with me either. I'm only human. I'm just a girl standing in front of a guy who sells hot dogs, asking him to stop talking to Drew. And I can only deal with so much.

50:34Ben Mandelker: And I don't have anything else to offer right now, at this moment. No questions, please. No more. No further questions. Thank you. And Shamia's like, okay, that's real. That's real. And Andy's like, okay, well, how do you take it, Shamia? You kept saying you wanted to have your say, and now's your chance to have your say. And she's like, well, that's the difference between us. Because even at times where I didn't have the bandwidth to deal with it because I had my own shit happening, I would find the bandwidth to deal with it. Except for all the times that I didn't deal with it for a year and just talked to all our friends about Porsche.

51:05But I had that time of love for Porsche. What's that?

51:09Ben Mandelker: Drew's like, you got free Wi-Fi? What? And she's like, you know, I have that kind of love for Portia so much so where everybody calls me her lapdog. And he's like, okay, okay, got it. Look at the sacrifices I made. I endured being called her lapdog because I used bandwidth to talk to her. So it hurts me to think I came to the show to sabotage her because ultimately I just want peace for both of us, you know. And he's like, you did that, Portia? Yeah. All right. And Cynthia's like, yeah, Cynthia claps like they actually achieved something. She's like, yay. I'm like, nothing was, they hate each other, Cynthia, relax.

51:51Ben Mandelker: Nothing has happened. Andy set these reunions up to be like, if you don't make up, then you're fired. You know, like he can't just have them always fighting. So he gets them to fight. And then he's like, so do you see a path forward? And every single time they have to say, yes, no matter what, no matter what's happened, I see a path forward. He's like, okay, you can have another season. because he's like, one of you is fired. So it's like little kids getting in trouble, you know, because he's like, Portia, did you hear that? And she's like, yes. He's like, okay, well done. I guess we're moving on then.

52:24Finally solved it. Me, Andy Cohen.

52:26Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think that Shamia, I think the lesson is that if you feel a certain way, I think for your own benefit, don't talk to the other cast members quietly off camera. Make a scene on camera. So that way our show is better. Okay. I wish he had used different terminology because he goes, you need to figure out a way to vocalize it. No, she doesn't. Don't use vocalize around her, okay? I've had enough of the vocalizing.

52:55Ben Mandelker: Well, because it's diverting in a million different ways, but it still exists, and your friends with a portion of everybody else's, it's only going to suit you to say that you really pissed me off when you did that, and I'm hurt, so you can move forward. and that's the backbone of an honest relationship. Andy all of a sudden trying to be like Dr. Simone giving therapy on a beach somewhere. We are sisters. At the end of the day, we are sisters who come together on a beach. I'd love when Andy gives these pep talks as if he is not like the figurehead of a franchise that actively tries to tear people apart.

53:31That's what's so good about it every time. He builds an entire empire on getting women to fight with each other in ball gowns. And then he's like, no, say you're sorry.

53:39Ben Mandelker: You started it. Do you want to set an intention? I mean, the backbone of an honest friendship is apologizing and being your authentic self. By the way, she slept with your husband. So, Shamia's like, I own that. Like, I literally do. I'm very wealthy. And I accept that. And I'm going to work on that. And I think it naturally just like, when I got a lot of stuff happening in my life, like the elevator in my house broke down again. You guys all understand that. Oh, none of you guys have elevators. Okay. Well, maybe just me. But people who are in my socioeconomic class would understand these things.

54:09Ben Mandelker: I don't know if I have it in me right now. So I just choose to move past it manually on a staircase because, you know, elevator broken. I'm literally moving on a staircase. It's very sad. I feel like I'm Drusadora in her ranch home. Anyway, I'm just going to sweep it under a rug. Unlike Drusadora, she cannot afford a maid. And that's okay. It's coping. It's right because I just don't have to deal with it right now. It's okay. Okay. So now we see the guys backstage. Why is Ralph here? Why is Ralph here? A question that people ask in any establishment. Jamba Juice. Why is Ralph here at Jamba Juice?

54:44And Dennis is here in his, is that a Louis Vuitton barber robe that he's wearing to get his makeup in? I don't know. It's some famous, but I'm too poor to know what it is, but I do know. It's very expensive.

54:58Ben Mandelker: I was not looking carefully enough, but as we all know, like, you know, that's hot dog money right there. That is hot dog vendor money. That's hot dog Golgari. So then Dennis is like, yeah, you know, when the girl's beefing, you got to stay out of it. You know, we got to let women handle their own business because women are women and men are men, you know. And he's like, I'm here to support baby mama Andrew because that's family. you know so we're gonna keep it positive so then we go back and Andy's like here we are we're back Drew this season we watched you battle with a divorce that seems to have no end to hidden ring cameras in sight and an ex-husband that is banished to the basement by the way I think we know the reason why Ralph is here because he got a free edge up there's free edge up in New York City I'm there so Andy's like Like, okay, well, will you be able to sing your way out of this sad song?

56:00Ben Mandelker: Let's watch. So it's now the Drew package. We see everything, the basement, the lawsuit, the mom crying, saying the kids are acting up. All the greatest hits. So Andrew's like. Drew is sending the kids to therapy because her mom said that they were acting up. And she's like, you know, you really need to get the opinion of an outsider looking in. Because I thought everything was fine. But my mom's gone for a few months. She comes back. The kids are acting different, but also kids grow up and they do start smarting off to you. So I think it's kind of natural. Yeah, but well, okay. Ralph tweeted that your mom needed to watch her mouth because after your dad's death, she spent all his money and Ralph had to bail her out.

56:44Ben Mandelker: What do you think about that? God, Ralph. Jesus, I got so tacky. So Ralph and Drew is like, well, that was a new low. I mean, my father was a prominent pediatrician and you're coming against his legacy. I mean, my cousin, Michael Jordan, was furious, you know, and my mom had an anxiety attack. So she's like, yeah, this is fucked up. And Andy's like, well, there was also a reason. To be fair, he wasn't coming after your dad's legacy. He never said anything about your dad. He said that your dad left her a lot of money and she spent it all. But whatever. I'm still on. But also it's rude. Honestly, I think it's I think it's real fresh, as my mom would say.

57:21Ben Mandelker: that's real fresh for Ralph to say that her mom needed to shut her, watch her mouth. Yeah, of course. Disgusting. It's a bit fresh, Ralph. Beyond fresh. It's fucking trash and disgusting. And if for anything, you know, Drew, this whole like, well, sometimes I make up with him and sometimes I don't. I don't think you can be with a guy who talks about your mom like that. You don't want to be with a guy who talks to women that way and especially a mom. Women and your elders? No, sir. I'm the only one allowed to disrespect my mother in this relationship Sir So she's like yeah you know I mean it's a whole new storm Because all this started to affect my mom And so then Andy brings up this viral clip I'm sure we've all seen it Because it's viral It's viral everybody There's a viral clip supposedly of them cooking together And he shows a clip of it And they're like just this happy perfect couple And she's like well that was just an effort of us trying to co-parent because everybody knows true co-parenting is getting a lot of likes on tiktok so it's called making an effort andy whenever they do that bullshit like we're so happy it just reminds me of like their last season when they were doing that kind of like captain and teneal thing or whatever it was where he had this little keyboard he was like toting a keyboard around everywhere and he was just smiling like we're happier than we've ever been he's like i'm so happy he looked like what was that name of that muppet ralph ralph which is appropriate actually you know like he's like i got my keyboard and like you just have that bullshit smile on his face like i'm surprised you didn't take those stakes and start trying to play the piano on them he's like hey i got a good chord on these stakes um but the thing is like no one even knows whether these two are faking the happiness because everybody also thinks that they're faking the drama.

59:15So it's like, are we faking being happy or faking being sad for the cameras? What is it? So we see the caption. She got upset with him because they made this happy video and then he makes a caption that says, didn't wear the apron, but she got me daddy in the kitchen off camera. I love this cooking thing. Happy no drama Memorial Weekend, y 'all. Be safe. Hashtag real life. Hashtag call me daddy in the kitchen. and she's like so he took that moment I'm like that could have been positive but you know he used it to make it appear to be something that it wasn't it wasn't I didn't call him daddy I didn't

59:50Ben Mandelker: and of course Cynthia's like you know I honestly thought it was cute to see you guys being together happy and not you know not thinking like oh you know they should get back together but it's just like nice to see you guys having fun together I was honestly just happy to see you guys doing something on a kitchen island it just touches my heart thanks Cynthia for weighing in on that one and Angela's like oh and living in a house with a man who can cook girl get your food let's all stop cheering on going back to abusive stalker exes like what the fuck is wrong with this cast sometimes my god like let's can we bring the bar up a little bit higher for the men it's like oh Ralph what a great guy he had a cooking video with you forgive him forget about the ring cams the affairs the disappearing to Florida the ways crazy abusing you you know like pulling you through all this divorce shit right now yeah they all start joking about how like oh he's got the sausage and everything and Portia's like yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a long hard divorce you're gonna be dry you're gonna who's gonna come up that staircase after midnight you know Cynthia's like or she may go downstairs they're like ah they're all like laughing and we're like you guys remember that Ralph is terrible right he's a monster and they're divorcing I don't like it they're just like just joking Maybe they all know it's fake, though.

1:01:06Cream from Cheese says, Drew, the judge has given you and Ralph the weirdest court orders from having Ralph live in the basement to avoid telling the kids you're divorcing. What the hell is that about? Drew's like, well, I should have hired Precious. Okay, I can tell you that. Precious is the best attorney in Atlanta. That's what's happening.

1:01:27Ben Mandelker: and Portia's like actually it's normal because by the way when you sue for a divorce everything's going to stay so I lived upstairs with my ex for months but it's like which is crazy is this like a normal thing in Georgia that like if you divorce you are like stuck in a house together like what sort of sitcom sitcom like premise judgment is this they're like you guys are divorced but you must live together and your wacky neighbor is mandated to come over at least once per week and take stuff out of your refrigerator. As a judge who knows the law, you will stay together and your new neighbor is a man with his shirt unbuttoned down to his belly button.

1:02:05His name is Larry. Okay, good luck. Have a good time.

1:02:08Ben Mandelker: Your other nosy neighbor, her name, I don't know, we'll just say Mrs. Poole, will also be coming around to offer some warm advice, but also kind of get in the way. So then Portia's like, yeah, well, it's normal. I lived upstairs for my ex, you know, but you recently said he had a woman down there and kelly's like with you there and drew's like oh yeah you know you know i mean when i'm there when i'm not there i mean she's a girl and she's there portia's like so wait you seen someone on the camera in the basement a woman and she goes okay you can get the manifesto and he's like yeah it's in which i think was actually by the way by the way i think it's the manifest and not the manifesto i was like what did she bomb something oh my god she's like she's like well if you really want to know who it is you can always look up some of karl marx's best manifestos and learn about he's like ralph is having sex with the terrorist a terrorist in the basement you can get the manifesto guys don't worry about it so what she means is that you can see drew's new girlfriend is really against the pet insurance agent uh company what am I trying to say?

1:03:17Industry? She's really against pet insurance abuse. She's got a whole pet festo.

1:03:25Ben Mandelker: Well, the way I found out her name is I looked up to see what the Unabomber had written about her and I know it was a few hundred pages, but I finally saw the name Shirley and I was like, aha, that's her. Shirley. I would love if it was a girl named Shirley. Shirley and Ralph. It probably is. So, Drew Who is saying that? Yeah, it's a gated community. So Portia is like, so you saw the picture of the driver's license? And she's like, I saw the name. And I looked her up on Instagram. And when I went to lunch at Anaya's school, she was there. Everyone's like, and I was like, is someone going to make a fatal attraction reference?

1:04:02Ben Mandelker: Because as we all know from my childhood trauma, the Glenn Close goes to the school to pick up the child, was shot in my elementary school, and I was not chosen to be an extra. And I needed this moment right now. And they didn't even mention it. So I was sad. um can we ask questions like why was the girlfriend at school at lunch that's weird but then someone said it was was it the teacher because angie goes it's the teacher and so was it the teacher is it one of the teachers i don't know we didn't find out but i like that they're both stalking each other they're like they're equally stalking each other drew is going down to the gatehouse to be like who came into the skate who came in at like 7 57 tonight.

1:04:42Ben Mandelker: But then the lady is going to the school to stalk that way and they're both circling each other like, I'm going to stalk you even more. I'm going to stalk your child. I'm going to stalk your nails. I'm going to find out everything there is to know about Drew by seeing what she puts in the kid's lunch. It's like Lunchable, what a lazy, lazy witch. I can steal you away easily, child. Welcome to the world of tuna sandwiches. Wait a minute, aren't you the girl for the manifesto? The question is, is this woman the teacher at the school if it was the teacher at the school because angela asked is it like it's the teacher and like if it was the teacher it's hilarious that drew says i went down to the school and there she was it's like yeah because she was a teacher like make it sound like she's a stalker stalking the child but like she's actually at work it's like drew was actually the stalker at that point and she's like and she mean mugged me and then she approached me and was like what's your name ma 'am and i said i don't have to give you my name and she says you do because uh we have to log everyone who comes in here and i said oh so you have a manifesto at this school also she said actually i'm just we don't like to have strangers around the children please tell me your name ma 'am i said you don't get to know my name because i am an actress she says seriously we're gonna call the police ma 'am i said you don't call the police on me because i played a police officer once many years ago in a pilot that never aired so ha and then i left i was just trying to bring back her math book that she forgot in class i don't want to hear it So Kelly's like, well, actually, I was really actually hoping that you and I could have a bit.

1:06:16We could have hit it off a little bit more. Is this Angela? Who are they talking about now? Oh, no, Drew. Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. From man from Send Family Value says, why don't any of the women in the group show any compassion for Drew during her divorce? Did you not just see the cooking video? It's hard to have compassion about someone's divorce. And also, I do have compassion about her divorce. But I can see how it would be hard for people when there's so many mixed signals. I need better branding on this divorce. I can't have like, Ralph is the worst stalker in the world and then have like, oh my God, now we're making waffles together.

1:06:56Isn't this fun, America? No, it's not. I need you to get rid of Ralph and cut the cord, please.

1:07:02Ben Mandelker: Yes. so Kelly is basically like I was like really actually hoping that you and I could have like hit off a little bit more I mean I think towards the end it was just kind of like more of like a connection thing you know that's what I would have liked and Angela's like making faces at Drew like oh god this bitch whatever and Kelly's like don't give me that face because Drew's doing the face back and um basically Kelly's like she's like Angela stay out of it this is a divorced woman conversation and Angela's like yeah I don't want any parts I don't want any parts so Drew's like well I mean it sounds good and I appreciate you saying that today but I feel like you know you didn't really give us a chance because you were just like throwing these things out and being loud and spicy and I'm like girl you don't even know me and then throwing out that liar narrative and Kelly's like um I didn't even hear anything and she goes well you said that I'm a liar but You know, you felt like you were, it felt like you were trying for a moment.

1:07:59And I do think that Kelly obviously watched, you know, previous seasons and came in here ready to go for people that she was ready to go for. Because everybody that Kelly came for in the beginning, it was like, what? You've been here five seconds. What do you like? Did that man steal someone's husband? And then all the Drew stuff. It's like, you just got here, ma 'am. So Kelly's like, I wasn't trying for a moment. I never need to try for a moment. which is why I have my own videographer, an entire glam team on retainer, and a man named Paris with extremely high-waisted short shorts

1:08:31Ben Mandelker: that used to follow me around. When you came to my Balmain event, and you were there, Balmain, I should say, Balmain, Balmain, and we were at the bag, you said you purchased something and did not purchase anything. And Drew's like, I did. She's like, you did not. She goes, I have purchased multiple things. I mean, not at the event and not at Balmain, and maybe not even this year, but I have purchased things in the past in my life. so please don't lie on me. So Kelly's like, you did not buy anything. So Drew says, no, I talked to the shopper and he found the size. So we were texting and he found the right size.

1:09:03Ben Mandelker: And Kelly's like, okay, you did, but you didn't, you're supposed to buy it at the event. And Shamia says, the things that you buy at the event go to, the proceeds go to osteogenesis imperfecta. And Kelly's like, yeah, you didn't buy anything there. And she's like, well, I mean, I purchased it at some point in time at a different place. And I showed you a receipt from something I had purchased. And, you know, we had a real conversation and we didn't go into the part about the foundation. And I could have made sure that it did, or I could have made a donation to your foundation if you had just told me, even though I was at a charity event for your foundation and knew that I hadn't actually supported your foundation at that moment in time, but I did buy myself something.

1:09:44Well, it sounds like she's saying they didn't have my size. So I contacted the shopper and he said, he'll get my size and they got my size. And so I bought it. But then couldn't she say, okay, well, if they didn't credit that to your foundation, it should have been because I technically ordered it that night. But, you know, then again, it's like we're trying to read too much. I'm trying to read too much into something that Drew is saying, which is probably at best a half truth.

1:10:09Ben Mandelker: I think that normally I would be with you on this one. Normally I'd be like, yeah, she probably thought, oh, since I contacted the buyer, it sort of counted under the umbrella of the whole event. But it's Drew. And Drew is like, she's kind of like a crook. and she's so slippery with her words. She's like, no, I bought it. I'm like, yeah, but did you donate or did you make sure those funds were being donated? I don't think so. Yeah, I like Shamia. And the proceeds were supposed to go to osteogenesis imperfecta. So they didn't. It's just like that. I just like hearing that used in a housewife's fight.

1:10:44The proceeds were supposed to go to osteogenesis imperfecta.

1:10:49Ben Mandelker: So, all right, all right. And more importantly, Drew, are you or are you not Michael Jordan's cousin? And Drew's like, well, in my head, absolutely. I mean, it was a joke. She keeps saying it's like a joke. I wish they had rolled back the clip because when she said it, she said it absolutely seriously. And she was full on lying and did not think she's going to get caught out on it. She was not joking whatsoever. She's like, guys, my name is Drew Jordan. It was a joke. And they're like, yeah, it wasn't a joke. So, um Dick from Copper says Shamil, why was it okay for you to twist Drew's words regarding Pilar But Angela was held to a higher Standard when she relayed her conversation With Shamil back to Portia I was like, mentally I was like What were these things again?

1:11:38And they showed like a flip This is too much for me

1:11:43Ben Mandelker: Portia basically is like, yeah it was cringy Because like when, of course when I watched it it didn't piss me off, but the way that Shamia brought the information to me, which of course this, in this case, it was Drew saying that like, you know, this money could help Pilar go to college and Shamia brought it to Portia saying like, Drew says that she's paying for Pilar's tuition, which is not what Drew said at all. This one, I'm firmly not on Shamia's side about this. And you know, Shamia is still standing in her truth about this. She's still like being like, no, that's what happened. That's like you meant it to be shady and you said it shady.

1:12:16Ben Mandelker: It's like, listen, I'm going to come down on Drew really whenever I can because she's hilarious with how much she lies and is self-serving. But in this case, Drew did not say it in a shady way. She said it in a nice way. Well, she was being shady, but it wasn't anything that I would have been pissed about. I mean, it was like typical Housewives shade. They're like, well, you know, she doesn't like you working with her. And she's like, well, she may not like it, but all the sales from this album could pay for Pilar's College because it's going to be so successful. you know of course she's being it's like a little shade but i don't think it's like portia's a destitute and she'll never be able to pay for pilars college without my album you know yeah shamia brought like unless there was stuff we didn't see but shamia definitely brought that information to portia in a much more incendiary way congratulations you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two go look for the recap that says part two See you over there, suckers.

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