#2953 RHOM S7E8 Part 1: Two Ships Sassing in the Night

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2:00Ronnie Karam: Oh, Ben. Hi. How are you, Ronnie? Good. One of my eyes healing up okay. One of my eyes not healing up okay. What the hell? Am I going to be wonky-eyed for the rest of my life? What's wrong? Is it forever? Look, this one's all swollen and purple still, and this one's not.

2:18Ben Mandelker: Well, maybe you got an infection or something. Maybe you should just go to get it checked out. I'm sure it's fine.

2:23Ronnie Karam: No, I had that done in Texas, so guess what? I'm just praying. Does it hurt, though? No.

2:30Ben Mandelker: Oh, if it doesn't hurt, then you're probably not infected. It's probably just bruising.

2:34Ronnie Karam: Hey, it's like you're my own doctor. That's what I always say to myself. If you're not bleeding, don't go to the hospital. Hell, even if you are bleeding, use a paper towel and some Velcro and close that shit up. What are you going to do?

2:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think if you were infected, you would feel something and it would be like really uncomfortable. But if it's just bruising, it's just, you know, it's the body is healing. Guess what I feel?

2:54Ronnie Karam: I feel nothing. Everybody, welcome to the show. Today is Real Housewives of Miami. We're super excited. Okay. It was dueling yacht day. Real Housewives of Miami. If you want to watch this on video, you can just go over to Crabbins on Demand. Okay. That's where we do these on video. It's on our Patreon. If you don't want to do that, whatever, you don't have to. We're there for free a week later over on our YouTube channel. Also, our bonus episodes are open on Patreon, up on Patreon. And this week's is about our trip to Vegas and Beyonce, seeing backstreet boys, getting mad at hotels and airlines.

3:28Ronnie Karam: You know, good stuff like that. But today, here we are with the Real Housewives of Miami, Season 7, Episode 8, Dueling Yachts. Yacht fight. Yacht fight.

3:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I don't think we've ever seen this before on Bravo. Two yachts chartered for one episode. It's kind of amazing, actually. Um, it's funny because, uh, you know, I watched the screener for this week's Orange County right after this and really going from a show that's just has, it's like flush with colors and water, like beautiful turquoise water and palm fronds and two separate yachts. And then going to like Newport beach, it's an adjustment. I have to say it really is whiplash going from Miami to Orange county but it also just is really more of a statement of how luxe this show is and i just don't know why anyone anyone would sleep on it because this is the luxury that we want from bravo

4:31Ronnie Karam: yeah and you know the beginning of this season we saw um kiki talking about how she used to date a guy who had a yacht and that's why she or what is he like the head of the yacht club or something yeah she did mention that yes so now she's like getting these yachts for her party episode you But I guess the guy, whoever she's dating, I guess he's like, just take two smaller ones. And I actually like that because it led to fighting over two boats, which I thought was really creative. We've already seen fighting on one boat. And then with this cast, we saw fighting on the pontoon thing in Mexico, which was classic.

5:09Ronnie Karam: So they're like, well, you know what? How are we going to try and top this? Two boats.

5:14Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they really like putting their camera people on restricted boat spaces because there was no room on that boat in Mexico City. And this one, because these boats were smaller yachts, we're used to below deck where those camera people can just travel on any deck without any issue. But here you see them trying to kind of squeeze down the side of the boat as they're trying to follow the cast members with their water guns. It was kind of funny.

5:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that was a good one. So we open at Julian Martina's home And it's chaos You know, we just see birds squawking Elephants Giraffes tearing down trees Rhinoceruses You know, like beating down garage doors That's what they use as like a garage door opener Just like a rhinoceros And then kids running around Martina trying to figure out what a pop tart is You know

6:05Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's pure chaos But luckily they're wealthy These are wealthy lesbians who can afford a nanny so the nanny will take over now. And instead, Julia and Martina go and look at the sunset together. And Julia's like, You know, I have you, and we have each other, and we have boys, and we have girls. We have goats. And nothing in between. Never betwixt shall they meet. So Julia's like, Right now, everything in my life and in Martina's life is about boys. I was told boys are more active, and they definitely are. but year of grazing goat make me prepared so yeah we see the kids are the boys are like in high chairs they're like flipping over things on the table it's just it is chaos as you said it is pure chaos there's like powder in the air like things are flying everywhere it's it's madness

6:59Ronnie Karam: so um then martina's like well speaking of we have to put them to sleep tonight could you choose better terminology

7:10Ben Mandelker: Oh, yes. I'm talking about your goats. I can't do all this. Oh, I'm still upset about Gertie and how she behaved yesterday at the event. Okay, well, that has nothing to do with us putting the boys to bed, but sure, I guess you'll just change the subject.

7:26Ronnie Karam: Probably it's a good thing I didn't go to that, because you know what I would have done? I would have sat there cross-legged and given, you know, rolly eye looks. Watch out, ladies. martina's coming and you're about to get nevratilova'd i might have uh put out an extremely problematic tweet uh so julie's like oh he's so petty by the way i left ronnie what are you supposed to be using that wand on your healing eye it's he i'm trying to heal it with red light Ronnie, don't. Red light is healing. This is how Jesus healed lepers. Red light. Red light wand.

8:07Ben Mandelker: I think don't touch it.

8:08Ronnie Karam: Don't touch it. Well, it's not like oozing. It's just like bruising, you know? Yeah, but you're like vibrating on it.

8:18Ben Mandelker: You're vibrating on your bruise. Well, isn't that good?

8:21Ronnie Karam: Isn't that what healers do? They tap. I don't know. They vibrate you and they put heat on you. I mean, I'm just, I'm the Reiki healer for myself from Vanderpump Rules. Be nicer to Britney.

8:31Ben Mandelker: I am not a doctor. Be nicer to Britney. I'm not a doctor, but I am someone who watched Dr. Nicole on this episode. And I'm going to say, I don't think you should be fiddling with that eye. Just let it heal on its own.

8:44Ronnie Karam: Well, it's been red-lined for me. Let's see by the end of this episode.

8:48Ben Mandelker: You've got much more. You can play around with all the rest of your face, but not that eye. Just let that eye do its thing.

8:53Ronnie Karam: well let's wait because by the end of the episode look my eye already looks better i'm telling you i just fixed it you guys does it look better i think it does i don't know

9:03Ben Mandelker: because i'm blinding this eye now so it's like you've been you've been putting red red light into your eyeballs and then you're like well i can't see the red anymore yeah you guys if you

9:12Ronnie Karam: think you look bad you should blind yourself in one eye and you'll look better i just like staring into a light i can't i can't see how far away i am from the screen i just solved it okay uh so they're talking about how this whole you know julia's doing her whole victim thing like oh i'm so upset about gertie and how she behaved it's also petty i left and adriana wanted me to go hash hash it out with her and martina's like there's no hashing out there is no hashing out how dare she put up completely benign texts that said nothing

9:53Ben Mandelker: bad on a screen hashtag no hashing so julia is like well after having time to think about why adriana didn't follow me i'm starting to think that there's some sort of resentment towards me like maybe she doesn't like that i stop hanging out with her and hanging out with her mortal enemies. Like, I don't know she's crazy like that. Because now my friends are Marisol and Alexia, the cool girls. They've accepted me. On Wednesdays, we wear pink.

10:22Ronnie Karam: I love that Julie is so confused. She's like, maybe Adriana's resentful. Yeah, maybe she is, because you dropped her like a bag of hot potatoes. A bag of hot potatoes? You dropped her like a... Yeah, I would drop that.

10:33Ben Mandelker: I don't even want to drop a... Imagine a single potato's bad enough, but a bag of them? And I'm assuming the bag's not insulated, right? Just a mesh bag with all the heat where you just touch all those hot surfaces. Yeah.

10:44Ronnie Karam: But I mean, a bag of hot potatoes isn't bad because at least you're not like burning your hand. I mean, the point is it's a hot potato, but it's not in a bag. I mean, I could take a hot potato in a bag.

10:53Ben Mandelker: Why did you put your hot potato in the bag in the first place? To deliver it, man.

10:57Ronnie Karam: How else are you going to do it? Got to make the mortgage. So anyway, she dropped her like a poopy diaper. Like a bad habit. Yeah, Julia. Yeah, Julia's just shocked. She's treating everybody like shit. And then now, all of a sudden, they don't like her anymore. Hi, I'm your friend Consequences, you dumb, stupid Julia. Even I don't like you, Julia, and I used to love you. I love Julia. I even don't like her goat anymore.

11:25Ben Mandelker: Just kidding. I don't like your goat. I still like the goat. I do too. I'm just agreeing with everything you say. I'm going to copycat you the whole rest of the episode. You should do it. Question. Is there any coming back from Julia? Because we loved Julia for the longest time. And now she's taking this turn. You know, I know every season people like you hate someone one season, you love them the next season. But this season has shown like a social climby side of Julia, like a side that like really was not there. And I'm wondering, like with a good edit next season or like walking things back, can we really like Julia again?

12:01Ben Mandelker: Or has that ship sailed? I saw her on Watch What Happens Live last night. And she's like, Gertie, I would love to talk to you. And I would love to settle this at the reunion. Please, Gertie, please come back to me, Gertie.

12:13Ronnie Karam: Oh, really? Because you've been making snotty little comments all over your Instagram and making little laugh emojis when people are on your site about throwing water on her and everything else. So your apologies, bullshit. Okay. And it's too late. and did you see the interviews with Gertie that have been going around this week where she's talking about how this boat thing happened even before the last reunion I mean it was forever ago so Julia had no problem she still stood up for her all reunion had no problem with it until she needed a storyline to be on Marisol and Alexia's side shame on you Gertie has been hilarious oh my god this happened a year ago and that's when then she comes at me at the party that's why i'm looking like am i in the truman show am i in the truman show right now i'm looking around at the cameras like what

13:07Ben Mandelker: what i like this like puppet that you're doing there that's very muppet very muppet coded that's how she is she is muppety let's be honest but do you think there's coming back from julia Do you think like she could have like a good edit next season and we embrace her again? Or do you think she has been forever tarnished?

13:28Ronnie Karam: I mean, you know, look, Julia is like a wackadoo. I think as long as she keeps goats and wackiness in her life, she'll be fine. But the only coming back for me, like if she goes up to her wife and says, stop your bullshit, racist, homophobic, nasty tweeting. And stop acting like a fucking asshole and embarrassing me all over the place. and behavior. I mean, it would have to start there. Like, it would have to start even beyond the Gertie stuff. As far as the Gertie stuff, I think she can only heal herself if she realizes that who she's fighting for are evil. You know, like, Alexi and Marisol are very funny.

14:03Ronnie Karam: I would never say, like, get rid of them. I think they're, you know, an integral part of the show. But they're evil. And you cannot side with evil. So I hope it's like one of the movies where you side with evil and then you realize that you've sided with evil and then you do the right thing and you defeat evil. You know, something like that. But otherwise, no.

14:21Ben Mandelker: I don't think Alexia and Marisol are evil because we've seen evil on these shows before. And they're just they're just Alexia and Marisol. What I do think, though, is that they're evil to Adriana. And I think that Julia and they are their own clique. And I think Julia has exposed like some sort of pick me energy with them. And she's abandoned her friend. Now, is her friend unstable and also actually quite terrible? in and of herself yes yes she is did she just leave one like like flaming pile of garbage for another perhaps but still i think it was like i do think that like adriana and julia had a real bond and it's sad to see her leave that now of course there's also you could make an argument here comes a classic ben flip-flop slightly it's not really a flip-flop but i'm just like adding like acknowledging a point so that way i just acknowledge it which is that like being friends with adriana is probably really annoying and like if adriana should have also just been like cool be friends with them that's okay but i think the issue is that julia also ditched adriana in the process i mean both of them are so territorial alexia and adriana so you know alexia was probably not down for julia to hang out unless she ditched adriana and adriana is is not going to be happy with Julia unless she ditches Alexia.

15:43Ben Mandelker: So, you know, damned if you do, damned if you don't. But you might as well just stick with the devil you know, right? What am I even saying? Am I arguing anything at this point or am I just talking?

15:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, no, I'm listening to you. But I think part of the Adriana thing is that she's got her own karma from the Leah season. Because Leah brought Adriana onto this show. She got her cast on this show. And then Adriana turned on her to be friends with the popular girls. Remember, she was making her stab at going against Leah to get the favor of Marisol and Alexia and all of them. So she's already done that. I mean, that was years and years ago, obviously. But this is kind of her karma coming to fruition. So then she gets this other lady on the show, and this other lady does the exact same thing to her.

16:28Ronnie Karam: She dumps her literally for no reason just to go to these other ladies and be popular. And, you know, the cycle continues. It's a circle of life. It's a circle of housewives life.

16:37Ben Mandelker: It does. and I am in no way supporting Julia and the way she just dropped Adriana and just like fled to the cool girls but what I am going to say is that there is a part of me that can understand that you've come on to the show and you're stuck at like the shit table with Adriana like season after season and it's only because Adriana can't like act like a grown-up sometimes like she's like really like an impetulant child all the time and Julia's kind of like I'm sick of sitting at the kiddie table. I want to do more fun things. I want to go to more parties. I want to hang out with other people.

17:13Ben Mandelker: So in some ways, I can actually kind of understand it, but I still think it's really shitty. I think there's a way to make new friends and keep the old. And I think that Julia has done it in a social climbing way instead of a hey, I want to have more of this like a fuller experience on this show.

17:32Ronnie Karam: And isn't it funny how she ended up getting away from petulant Adriana by acting petulant to be in with the other ladies yeah like drawing water on somebody drawing a fit for no reason she's going petulant to be friends with the other ladies to avoid the petulant person it's like it's like miami logic is so it's mind it's mind-boggling miami logic is mind-boggling

17:55Ben Mandelker: and it's a great reminder of how great this show is it's so wonderful there's so much going on So, Julia is still talking and she's like, I closed my eyes and I thought about it for a second. The party. And I just, when she humiliated me, I just walked back in because I just had one question for Gerdi. So, one night earlier, she goes up to Gerdi and she goes, what was the point of you doing this? And Gerdi's like, well, you promised, you said to me, Gerdi, what I will do is I'm going to say this.

18:28Ronnie Karam: Get your fingers out of my face like you normally do.

18:31Ben Mandelker: You are not listening. You're not listening. Okay, what are you here for?

18:36Ronnie Karam: Finger facer?

18:37Ben Mandelker: No, I have ten fingers, and I will use them, and I'll point them in any direction I want to, because these fingers, it's my party for my fingers. This is a party for fingers, and fingers can point in every direction, up, down, left, right, in directions you don't even know about. Humankind doesn't even understand these directions, because they're in different dimensions, and I get to use them. So what are you here for? Go home, girl, bye. No class coming here with sneakers on while I humiliate you with text messages.

18:59Ronnie Karam: I don't think you're allowed to yell at lesbians for wearing sneakers. I will say that. I'm on Gertie's side. I'm on Gertie's side for this whole fight. But I think that lesbians have fought for a long time for the right to wear sneakers places. I'm just going to say that.

19:17Ben Mandelker: Yeah, that's a fair point. I also do love Gertie, who has just gone out of her way to publicly humiliate Julia, to then be like, oh, you have no class wearing sneakers. At least dress formally while I humiliate you publicly.

19:33Ronnie Karam: And Martina's like, oh, well, I have sneakers. I mean, I wore these sneakers. These are real Chanel sneakers. And I wore them to the Royal Box. And they said, you can't come in with sneakers. And I said, these are Chanel. And I'm a lesbian. And they said, fine. And so I did. So I was in the Royal Box. Yeah, you're also extremely rich and famous, you dumbass. It's not like you were at the Royal Box for any other reason.

19:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. By the way, the Royal Box does sound like a lesbian bar. So then we see, of course, Julia and Martina at Lake Wimbledon, sitting behind Princess Kate and Meghan Markle. So then Julia's like, but Grady is not whatever issues she could have with me. I apologize for the water. I apologize. And we see the apology and everything. And she goes, I thought we were moving forward. Progress was made. She goes, not so much. It's a serious thing when people have cancer and they survive it and we're celebrating the fact that they survive. because 20 years ago, it might have been a death sentence and that's what she does at her event.

20:32Ben Mandelker: I mean, you know, perhaps on one end you have a point, but on the other hand, it's like, what a way to celebrate being alive than using your platform to publicly humiliate a fellow Real Housewife. That is living.

20:47Ronnie Karam: I don't like this whole like, oh, we have cancer, so suddenly we have manners. I mean, I'm sorry, do they put manners in chemo now? Get the fuck out of here with that. If I had cancer and I overcame that shit, guess what my response would be? Fuck all of you guys. You tried to take me down. I'm still fucking here. Now you're all going to have to hear it every fucking day of my life. You know I almost died before I got to tell you to fuck off. How horrible would that have been? I never fucking liked you. Yeah, that's living. That's living. That's how to go through cancer recovery, not with fucking manners.

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23:37Ronnie Karam: Arabian night style home under massive construction. Let's go see Stephanie's extremely tacky house. We knew this was coming.

23:47Ben Mandelker: We knew it was coming. She's trying to untackify it. But I have bad news for you, Stephanie. It's going to require a teardown. It's in the bones in the house. It's in the bones. It's in the bones.

23:59Ronnie Karam: It's all over. It was one of those Epcot Center like, look, we're in a different world. We're in Morocco. You go around the corner and they're selling like kebabs. And then you go around the other corner and they're selling like crepes. And there's a guy in a beret.

24:13Ben Mandelker: I love that. I actually love Epcot Center. I do too. You're selling me. I'm like, why don't we do a show at Epcot Center?

24:19Ronnie Karam: We should do that.

24:21Ben Mandelker: I did do the drinking around the world in Epcot Center, and it was a blast. I made a whole video, and it was on YouTube for a while, but I got taken down because I used like six seconds of Celine Dion in the video. And it's like, copyright infringement. Celine does not like me drinking around the world. But I mean, I love Celine. I'll do anything she says.

24:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I did drinking around the world, too. in the world like a normal alcoholic. Don't have to go to fucking Epcot to do it.

24:52Ben Mandelker: Well, Stephanie shows up and Larsa shows up and Stephanie's like, welcome to my soon to be humble abode, Larsa. She's like, wow, it's like a full-on construction site-like. Yeah, Larsa.

25:10Ben Mandelker: That was good. I mean, seriously. so it's huge it's one of those like with giant doors you know and in texas we have

25:20Ronnie Karam: gigantic doors for no reason as well they're like you know what we need in this house a 20 foot tall door i don't know why but you know what we should do in a place with heat um that we can't keep out of our homes no matter how hard we try we should put garage doors as our front doors okay it's one of those and uh stephanie's like it's like a castle right but right like it's like a castle she goes yeah it is a castle it is like a castle like it's not like a castle it's like

25:51Ben Mandelker: like a castle like wow yeah and stephanie's like yeah for like a queen um excuse me por favor um can we stop the construction for like two minutes please you know that she intentionally had that guy they were working so she could walk in and tell him to stop working yeah i just know how to talk to construction man it's the guy with the keytar she's like uh can we stop that song

26:14Ronnie Karam: in extreme construction okay it's howard jones

26:23Ronnie Karam: so she tells us masoud built this this house with his ex-wife and after he got a divorce masoud and i moved to a condo and then masoud wanted this house again after the divorce and i I said, oh, hell no. I'm not doing that. I'm not moving some ex-wife's used things. You've got the ex-wife's used ass, drinkly old, balls down to the knees dick. So what's the problem with the house? Please, you had no problem stealing the man. You should keep the house with pride and be like, I got the old dick and your house too. I would do Instagram videos like, look at me. I'm washing my hair in the sink you put in here, wife that I stole old person from.

27:05Ronnie Karam: Suck it.

27:06Ben Mandelker: Listen, I'm going to back Stephanie on this one, not because of any sort of principles of old versus new, but just because we know the interior was probably ghastly in this place. No, it's going to be ghastly in the new one, too.

27:19Ronnie Karam: Stephanie's tasteless. It's all going to be white. I think it's going to be white, white, white, white, and white, and white, and white. It's going to be that new modern that they do in all the house flips and stuff.

27:31Ben Mandelker: You know what's going to be in there? I guarantee a kitchen island that's black with really aggressive white veining, which is my least favorite. I do not like an aggressive veining on the black marble. Disgusting. Or a wiener. I think she'll do that. Or a wiener.

27:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So this is a 22 ,000 square foot home. The ceiling height is 40 feet high. And she's somehow making it look small. I thought it looked cramped myself. Like you walk in, there's stairs. Then there's like crampy stairs with like walls. I don't know. It looks very cramped to me.

28:04Ben Mandelker: You know, closed concept is the new open concept. You know what I'm saying? I told you that was coming back. Walls. I said it years ago.

28:13Ronnie Karam: People are going to be sick of this open concept shit. People walk into your house. They see all your dirty dishes. They see every crappy thing your kid ever painted all over the fridge. You know, bring back walls. There's also no place to hang out.

28:27Ben Mandelker: there's no place to hang art and like i've told you before i like the the the the way they used to do it in like old england which is that you're only allowed to go in as far into the home as you are close to the people so i just love the passive aggression of like letting someone come into only like the second room and be like yeah this is where it ends like do we get to see a house tour No, you know, your access is just you're only you're for your plus. Sorry. We will let you know if you actually graduate to the next level.

28:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah. When we went to Miss Patricia's home in Charleston, when we did a show in Charleston, we got to go to Miss Patricia's home. And Ben called that out immediately because we were sat in the front room by the butler, Michael, R.I.P., and had some drinks. And she comes down, you know, lounging a little bit late as she should be because she's a lady. and we sat there and then she's like well let's go into the next room and you're like oh my god and so we went to the next room i was like what's his what's his deal so we saw the next room we sat there for a while and then she's like well let me let me show you something in the dining room so we ended up moving to another room and ben was good i was like why do i have to get up so much you know but ben loved it and finally ben was like i'm so honored that we made it through your complete house and she's like yes you did actually you're like your bedroom you're supposed You're supposed to be sequestered in the front until you like me more and then you're brought to the next room.

29:51Ronnie Karam: She goes, yeah, that's exactly how it works. You passed. Congratulations.

29:56Ben Mandelker: Those old timey country homes in like England, for instance, they were like the layout was like one room leads into the other leads into the other. It was like a linear layout. You don't just like walk in. You can go to the left of this room, to the right, to that room. you just go straight and like you only got to go as far into the path as you were allowed to as you were like con seen seen as important so like if you're really important like a royal you got to go all the way to the end and by the way if you thought you were going to see a kitchen you were not because kitchens were not for showing off that was where the servants were so it is fun to see how it i mean i still like i think i think i'm okay with us the people gathering in the kitchen i don't think we need to relegate that to the shadows but i do like the idea of like passive

30:41Ronnie Karam: aggressively like

30:44Ben Mandelker: yeah like really that's what every house is these days is a kitchen with ancillary side nooks but I do like the idea of passive aggressive house but I live in that

30:51Ronnie Karam: like you open my front door and you're in the kitchen it's like well would you rather go to the kitchen or the kitchen because that's where we're gonna go today

31:01Ben Mandelker: I know kitchens are crazy the fact that now kitchens have like in terms of in like the McMansions kitchens have like two kitchen islands it's so funny to me you got the kitchen island that you cook on and the kitchen helen that you sort of eat and hang out on and so it's like it's everyone's house is slowly turning into the kit into the tent at a british bake-off you know that's just gonna be like island to have

31:25Ronnie Karam: double islands oh they're so annoying though i used to cater and one uh one time someone the first time i ever saw a double island what a pain in the ass you do everything at this giant island then you have to walk around and carry everything to the second. It's the, it's not, it's not comfortable. And then you can't talk to anybody anyway. They're so far away on the other Island and you're cooking on the back Island. Like,

31:49Ronnie Karam: everyone just,

31:51Ben Mandelker: everyone just making their homes look like food network shows. Really? And you're all being canceled.

31:57Ronnie Karam: Wow. Yourself food network. You did it to yourself.

32:01Ben Mandelker: Too bad. They were such good quality shows. too bad. Which one's got canceled?

32:07Ronnie Karam: But guess what else is? This recap, because we're supposed to be recapping a show about a tacky house. This house is going to be tacky houses. And also just the gall of this lady walking around. Like all the rumors of this, whatever you all have been reading on Reddit, I cannot wait for this stuff to be brought out on the show. Like how she got that husband. What she's been doing with that husband. What happened to the ex-wife? I need to know. I want the ex-wife brought on this show because the rumors are that Stephanie worked for the ex-wife. She was like the assistant. And then she, you know, this is all alleged shit I hear from Reddit.

32:39Ronnie Karam: So I don't know what's true. Stephanie's all denied all this on podcasts and stuff like that, but who knows, but the gall, if that is true for her to be walking into the home of the lady that she supposedly used to work for and then stole her husband and her job at the company and can't steal a husband. Okay. We all know that, but still, and then walking through the house and being like, I'll keep her house, but I don't want a piece of her in it. Got the whole thing. That, whether you like this girl or not, I'm leaning on not. It's huevos.

33:09Ben Mandelker: It's huevos that she's got. Yeah. She says, when I first went into Masud's house, it was not my style. It was so Persian. I'm like, you know who else is Persian? Your husband. Hello.

33:21Ronnie Karam: You know what else is so Persian? Masud's wiener.

33:27Ben Mandelker: I honestly felt like there was a genie that was going to come out of the chimney. so um stephanie and starts showing larsa some more you know unfinished rooms it's at everything and she's like this is gonna be the master love it and we larsa wait wait wait wait when you come into the grand closet look at this grand closet look it's a little over a thousand square feet okay check it out and this wall over here this is where all the birkins will be before we inevitably find ourselves in a financial scandal and they get sold off this is a mannequin

33:59Ronnie Karam: representing the ex-wife, and every day I come in here and dismantle it a little bit more. Take off the thumb, take off a pinky finger, then we go with the whole hand. Also, I love that she still uses the terminology master, but then she changes the terminology for closet to be grand closet. Grand closet. The grand closet.

34:21Ben Mandelker: I didn't even know there was such a thing as the grand closet. I've never heard that.

34:24Ronnie Karam: She made that shit up. This lady is such an asshole. Yes, she is. But I'm enjoying it today. I don't know why. I think I'm enjoying it today because she's trying so hard to get Larsa to care. And Larsa's just like, whatever. Larsa's like really big. Wow. That's really cool. She goes, yeah. And this wall goes all the way down and it's going to be all Birkins.

34:49Ben Mandelker: I love that she describes how a wall works. This wall goes all the way down to the next wall. so it's like yes we can see the corner um she's like i want my own about the berkins to this degree

35:02Ronnie Karam: you're sad okay you're just supposed to be like this is where the bags go oh yes exactly somewhere to put them where people don't see them that's just so embarrassing

35:14Ben Mandelker: she is definitely the the the peak of new money um but again i like her on this show because she fits right in and she's like not afraid to speak her mind and stand up to the ones who've been there for years and years. So she's going on about like, I want my wine cellar, I want my own gym, a spa, a makeup room, staff quarters to have their own entrance so they don't have to use my entrance. Disgusting. Somewhere in Newport Beach, Heather Dubrow is like, snaps to that. Yes, I love this girl. America's sweetheart.

35:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she wants a lot. I just want ears that don't grow hair, you know? But, you know, we all want different things. So, Lars is like, oh my God, we're not going to be tanning like, naked like. And Stephanie tells us how the cost was so high, they could have just bought a new home. But they wanted this house, and she wanted to be fully happy, so had to do what we had to do. So, they walk back out to the backyard and pool area, and I love that she's, like, she's stripped the entire outside of whatever it was supposed to be, but it still looks the same. It looks the same.

36:24Ben Mandelker: She moved the pool far away. She's like, I want the pool over there because Masood, I want him at every corner he turns not to be reminded of the past. I'm like, the only one who's talking about the past is you, to be honest. And if you're that concerned that a pool is going to somehow send him back to whatever state of mind he was in, then you may have some more troubles in your marriage and you're giving on or letting on.

36:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so It's, yeah, it's kind of sad But I don't really like her So I like it I like watching A Slow Demise So she's like, I'm gonna have a housewarming party And anyone who brings bad juju Is gonna be escorted out Escorted out So Lars is like I mean, like, yeah, like How crazy, like, was the other night Like, that was, like, so, like, crazy Like, there were so many words That were put up on the screen my ears started bleeding words hurt

37:23Ben Mandelker: it was too much I mean I'm very opinionated I have a lot to get off my chest oh wait by the way can I show you the rest of the house before we talk about this no because like

37:30Ronnie Karam: what do you got to get off your chest like I feel like you got off like your XYZ like off your chest like with Alexia like what else could you like have to do like

37:40Ben Mandelker: well I mean okay fine we can talk about her well she thinks that you keep bringing up Todd and I know it's a very sensitive subject for her, which is why she brings it up all the time to all of us. Because I did hear her say that.

37:51Ronnie Karam: And that's parties themed for Todd.

37:54Ben Mandelker: And then retracts the theme and changes it around. I was saying you're beautiful. You don't have to, like, you know, you have so much to bring. I mean, if God takes out the garbage, make sure the ex-wife is in the garbage bag, too. I mean, you don't go back diving for it, okay? All she's done is try to belittle and put me down. And I have yet to go to one good event with you guys. Honestly. I'm like, lady, you're on the Real Housewives. There are no good events. That's part of the formula.

38:19Ronnie Karam: I hope that the ex-wife makes a gif of her saying, you got to take out the garbage. Sometimes God takes out the garbage and just waits for this divorce. Are they even married yet? Are these two married? Or did she just change her last name? Because she changed her last name.

38:35Ben Mandelker: Oh, no, no, they are married. Yeah, they're married. They're married. Yeah. They are? Yeah, I think. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're married.

38:40Ronnie Karam: Okay. So, yeah. So then we see Alexia laying into her saying like, oh, well, if you want to be neutral and go in there and kiss Gertie's ass, then you do that. She's like, I'm not kissing anyone's ass. And you need to shut the fuck up. You need to fucking shut the fuck up. So then back to present. Lars is like, yeah, you can't let go after Todd. And so she says before Gertie's event, Kiki had planned a yacht excursion for all the girls. But they only booked one yacht and then it all went to shit. So now they've had to book two yachts. So we see a little meeting of Kiki and Lars deciding to get the second boat.

39:20Ronnie Karam: Dun, dun, dun.

39:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so there's a lot of coordination here. I really enjoyed this process, by the way. So they're putting people in this boat and that boat. And ultimately, Adriana is like a bit of a, she's a bit of a landmine. No one wants to be on the same boat as her. No one wants to be on her boat. they try to put Marisol on the same boat as her, but they just sort of know that that's, I think they try it. They're like, that'll be funny. But then they realize this won't work out. They call it Marisol. And like Marisol, do you want to be there with Adrienne? She's like, no, I don't like it guys. I do not enjoy being around Adrienne.

39:55Ben Mandelker: I mean, we're doing an overnight. She might come in my room and murder me in the middle of the night before I've had my cocky. Sorry. It's my signature thing. I don't know if you guys heard about the cock. You guys heard about cockies before?

40:07Ronnie Karam: She might come in and murder me. I mean, it'll be like the set of Carrie in there. I mean, what are they going to do? Drop blood from the ceiling? What are things going to be flying all over the place in the prom? I mean, is that what we're doing here? It's like Carrie. Which she won't let go of that. She's like, do we get that? You're using my Carrie bit, right? You want me to do it again today? I'll do it again today.

40:30Ben Mandelker: I do love her old-timey pop culture references. which and I say this as someone who frequently references things from the 80s as if they are current and everyone will get them but she really goes for it like if it's like someone from the 60s that's like Patchoula Clark over there I mean come on everyone

40:49Ronnie Karam: Donny Osmond on the weekends come on

40:53Ben Mandelker: Clark Gable just walked in everyone I guess we all better bow down

40:58Ronnie Karam: she really Judy Garland that one up

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43:58Ben Mandelker: So now we go to Alexia's home and now we have a scene with, oh, well, you know, Peter, because Peter has arrived. And he hugs Frankie, etc. And Alexia is like, oh, well, Peter, you know, you like it here. I love that you like coming over here. It's a good house for artists because, you know, you are an artist. So, like, you like it, Peter? And he's like, no, we just have this spot here on the beach. It's fun. Like, oh, God. God. Peter still.

44:24Ronnie Karam: If I were ever in the same room with Peter, I would just, like, kind of slowly make my way towards him and just find a reason to stand next to him and then just, like, poke him with a needle. I would like to see.

44:38Ben Mandelker: Has he tried coffee?

44:39Ronnie Karam: See if he even reacts. Has he ever been caffeinated?

44:43Ben Mandelker: I mean, is there anything we can do to sort of like speed this guy's talk?

44:46Ronnie Karam: Are there any living cells on this person? What is happening with this person? And he's always kind of been like that. But then every year his hair gets a little bit drier and he just seems to slow down a little bit more.

45:01Ben Mandelker: I think he needs to. I'm sorry. He's like he needs to like start committing to like a buzz cut or something. because obviously we can see the hair is thinning and it's like an a-string ear and like that's fine but like he's trying to I think cover it up by growing it long but it just sort of is looking like Gerard Depardieu-ish at this point

45:19Ronnie Karam: yeah that's a good way to put it

45:21Ben Mandelker: you know like Gerard Depardieu meets Quentin Tarantino it's like you've got like director hair but you don't actually have any credits to your name so like you know

45:30Ronnie Karam: yeah he's got like intellectual hiding in the library in college like with dusty books and stuff like yeah lots of philosophical arguments with everybody

45:40Ben Mandelker: but he doesn't do any of those things you know yeah it's like like an intellectuals are allowed to have that awful hair because they're intellectual so they like excel in a different area but if you're not excelling in like intellectual things or if you're not like in your in the arts you really shouldn't have that hair or just excelling at anything like if you excel at nothing at least groom that's what i yeah because like if you're like a professor it's like oh well he just doesn't have time to do his hair properly because he's busy in academia he's busy doing things or if he's an accountant it's tax season but like he's just doing nothing like there's just no you're in miami like this is the city of knowing what to do with your hair

46:22Ronnie Karam: yeah you got a groom so uh and i'm i'm speaking as someone in like a three-day-old t-shirt and a very swollen eye that I'm red lighting. But we're doing something.

46:34Ben Mandelker: But we're doing something. We're podcasting, which is very, very important. It's very important to the world. Yeah. Rigorous and important.

46:44Ronnie Karam: So Peter's like, yeah, you just got to keep yourself emotionally stable, mom. And the producer's like, so you guys seem to be avoiding talking about Todd. Oh, yeah, we do. We do. you know because i don't like i don't i don't like to involve my kids you know i just like to move them in with people uh and then take them away so they can move out in front of in front of frankie in front of frankie but yeah i don't like to involve people with todd you know that stuff i keep very very private by the way it's not that they aren't talking about todd it's just that

47:25Ben Mandelker: Peter still is in the first three words of a sentence and he hasn't gotten to the rest of the sentence yet where he talks about Todd. So, mom, I just want, it's like, okay, all right, I'll take it from here. Okay, so Peter, what's going on? Like, how are you doing? You want to go hug Frankie? So they hug. It's really cute. I mean, when they, Frankie and Peter are very cute together and they hug and Alexia is like, Frankie has been vomiting profusely and ended up in the emergency room and they diagnosed him with diverticulitis, or as I call it, looking at Adriana disease.

48:00Ronnie Karam: Or as I told the doctor, this is what I call the disease to the doctor. How could you do this to Frankie? Oh, get him a better disease. I don't even know what this is. Get him a better disease. So this sucks. I mean, poor Frankie, like he doesn't go through enough and now he has to deal with diverticulitis, which is no joke, by the way. My friend just had a really bad case of, I don't even know, It was diverticulitis, but it was called like pronounced diverticulitis. I mean, I don't know. It was something like heightened. And it sucked. She had to get like a colostomy bag and she had to be in.

48:37Ronnie Karam: I mean, she was out of commission for like six months. Is it curable or is it? Yeah, she's better now. Yeah, she's better now. She healed up. Thank God. Oh, good. One of the lesbians in the tennis shoes. I mean, they just keep coming up today.

48:51Ben Mandelker: well listen if you've got if you're stuck with a colonoscopy bag I think you're allowed to have some sneakers on for crying out loud

48:59Ronnie Karam: oh yeah no one will question her sneakers because she's like a true like no one's gonna fuck with her he's gonna wear her shoes

49:09Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah so Alexia says that he has to have a better diet and everything which is you know like he does look a little thinner actually so it looks like he's been eating healthier and um i don't know why i felt like commenting on that like just your report card is in ben

49:26Ronnie Karam: mandelker approves so um uh where do i get diverticulitis you look great you look amazing is this over the counter can we make out for a bit how long should this last let me just so they talk about Peter starts crying you know because they're talking about how hard all this stuff is on Frankie and then they're talking about you know I don't know this family you know how this family is they talk about kind of the same traumas every year and then cry about it as a family which I guess is fair so she's like you know but the truth is Peter you really had it hard I can't I can't with the oh my god how hard Peter has it Peter doesn't do anything let's stop this

50:14Ben Mandelker: can we stop i know really you know your son you love it so hard videotaped a homeless person

50:21Ronnie Karam: as he was like trying to make him do bum fights or whatever the fuck he was doing and and abusing him like i can't with and i get that he was a kid and this and that but please stop with the every single year trying to make peter look like he's some little saint cut his hair the least you could

50:36Ben Mandelker: do is cut his hair alexia he yeah he is uh you can't say that he's i guess he has had it hard

50:43Ronnie Karam: with that hair and i'm not gonna lie do you know how hard it is having such dry hair his hair hurts

50:51Ben Mandelker: oh well he tried to buy some vo5 but he asked for vo6 and don't even make that and he gave up it was so hard for him so you know it's so hard you know because your brother gets into the accident then you go to paris oh god could you imagine what a hard life that is going to paris then you come back and hernan dies oh and it's just like it's a lot and like we're good but i don't want you to worry and she says you know she does i mean i'm not gonna take away that like obviously frankie was i mean when peter was very affected by frankie's accident etc but like you said they alexia brings this up to us every single year as if we never heard it before i'm like okay like

51:24Ronnie Karam: well it's just alexia's like boy mom you know peter does all this bad shit every year and then alexia's like oh my god you guys peter has it so hard like nobody has it harder than peter um raise your child to be better because your child sucks okay like i don't want to hear it and stop coming on here like you're trying to make peter mayor every year i don't want to hear it peter

51:45Ben Mandelker: sucks keep him away well the big wrinkle this time around for the usual like oh peter's had a so hard storyline is that now he is going to be frankie's guardian so like meaning like you know if if Alexia is to pre-decease her son then Frankie will take over which is a big deal. Peter will take over. Actually I would not be surprised if Frankie takes over as a guardian for Peter. Frankie I think Frankie will be a more suitable guardian for Peter than the other way around. I do too.

52:16Ronnie Karam: That's kind of a terrifying thought. So then Gertie let's see what are we doing? So Gertie goes to have lunch with Dr. Nicole.

52:27Ben Mandelker: Dr. Nicole's back. It's like we get this whole long shot of Nicole from behind her hair is blonde and long and flowing. It's like boom, boom, boom, boom. And she shows up looking great and radiant because she's a radiologist. No, she's actually an anesthesiologist. She's an anesthesiologist. Well, guess what? She's a radiologist today because she is radiating. She's a radiatingologist. She sells radiators because guess what?

52:56Ronnie Karam: She's radiating. she sold about 96 ,000 of them because she's wearing an Hermes matte alligator Birkin for $96 ,600 and she's got matching baby blues Jimmy Choo's or whatever and they're like wow Nicole is worth $27 trillion everybody and we ooh and all why does Nicole get away with doing this shit when it's so annoying from Stephanie although this always did kind of annoy me about Nicole But remember Nicole's like, oh, yeah, look, here we are buying like a, you know, 70 trillion dollar ship or whatever. Anthony liked to brag about their money, too. But I don't know how she did it and what didn't annoy people as much as Stephanie.

53:40Ronnie Karam: She's got the personality to pull it off. Right.

53:43Ben Mandelker: Because Stephanie watches like a house get like torn open and like rooted around. But but Nicole has to watch human bodies go through that. And I think she deserves, you know, like I think she deserves. a$96 ,000 bag because she's helping people's lives actively. Unlike really 99.9 % of anyone else on Bravo, she's actively trying to save people's lives. And she's also pretty cool. And Stephanie is obnoxious and Nicole is fine. Nicole seems to be overall pretty good given you know a base level of obnoxiousness that everyone on bravo has you know yeah i think

54:27Ronnie Karam: because she shows it off but she doesn't like openly brag like stephanie but i don't know so um she comes in and the girls are like oh my god it's you it's you it's like baby g the last time i saw her was in the you know she was still in her preemie because they're talking about the little baby and we see a picture of the little cute baby and um nicole's like yeah she was like four pounds like pure bones but now she's like 90 90th percentile weight like she's a little pudgy sickle doesn't she look like my dad is that supposed to be a compliment don't put that on that baby and then they show a picture of her next to fucking uh not columbia who's the other one

55:08Ben Mandelker: at asner yeah yeah um we see a picture of her her dearly departed father i personally did not see the resemblance but also to be fair her dad looked like literally every baby i've ever seen like he just was like a big i'm not saying he was a man baby i'm just like if you imagined a baby who is 75 years old that's what her dad was just really hairy carrying a cigar everybody r.i.p that guy so what a character that guy was yeah he really was he was and so nicole's saying how it was like a nightmare because like the pregnancy because or i should say the birth because like there there was the nicu and then she was in the hospital she had to go in and out she had to miss all these things but she was also ignoring grayson so she had to spend time with grayson and gritty's like it was a shit show okay can we talk about my thing now okay great so um uh gritty's like well i know that she's what that you're still going through postpartum and it's emotional roller coaster so i just want to support her and let her take it easy and it's all about her right now about her getting back to who she is because i'm trying to get her to get her groove back.

56:12Ben Mandelker: That's what I'm trying to do. So naturally, they now start talking about Stephanie.

56:19Ronnie Karam: Now, this is a big surprise for the episode because the rumors before the season started were Nicole was going to come back to the show, but then she left the show because they brought on her ex's new wife or whatever, which is Stephanie. And she was like, that's low or whatever. Fuck this. but it turns out she's really like stephanie and she's nice to her so yeah who knew who saw that one coming it's like the twist she's like i'm really excited to meet stephanie she's like oh the fact that she dated anthony 20 years ago i mean isn't that crazy and she goes oh my god like the world is this big it's this big she goes yeah okay let's talk about her she goes listen like there's got to be similarities like he likes us both let me tell you anthony's picky as fuck okay he likes short people who like really expensive purses and planes yeah pretty much

57:12Ben Mandelker: so uh they call stephanie and greg is like yo yo yo yo yo yo i want to do a quick hi and bye intro to uh this girl here you may know her because she's now with your ex and stephanie's like oh my god you know i was blonde too at one point and then i was like this is so damaging like i am not gonna be blonde like only an idiot would be blonde oh my god nicole nice to meet you

57:34Ronnie Karam: I was like, yeah, I was going to go red too, but like it's so much work to keep it red and also like go places where people don't treat you like a little orphan in a musical.

57:44Ben Mandelker: So, but it works for you. She's like, oh my God, if, if I know I will die if you go red, cause then we'll be just like twins. She's like, okay, well in that case, I'm definitely never going to be red the rest of my life. Okay. I'll stay blonde. Okay. Bye.

57:58Ronnie Karam: Is Stephanie a redhead? Why does Stephanie look like a brunette to me? Are my eyes that bad? Is my eye that swollen?

58:04Ben Mandelker: she looks like a brunette to me. There's someone pounding on our door.

58:09Ronnie Karam: No, tell him to fuck off. Peter, get a job. Pounding. Get a job, Peter.

58:16Ben Mandelker: I know it is Peter be like, hi, I'm lost. I think Stephanie is a brunette, but like, I can see that maybe in certain light, you can see like the redness of it all, you know? Okay. Like maybe like low level red, like maroon.

58:30Ronnie Karam: Stephanie's like, um, Nicole's fabulous. It's like, clearly we have to have similar traits because I dated Anthony 20 years ago and you could tell he was going to go far in life. I mean, no one's comparing private jets around here. I'm just saying mine is big or bigger. Walla Perkins, Walla Perkins. Can we finish my, can we finish my tour now? Come on.

58:49Ben Mandelker: Follow me. So they hang up and Nicole's like, you know, it's funny because when I saw her hang out with the group, my initial thought was like, I don't think she's going to get along with Alexia because, you know, there's that alpha. competition and like if you don't bend the knee like she doesn't do well and stephanie doesn't strike me as a knee bender mainly because she only comes up to someone's kneecap so if you bend she really can't there's not really a knee there to bend oh no and at the party that you were

59:16Ronnie Karam: supposed to go to i put that text message up i put it up i put it up there was a screen i put it up it was there it was there i redacted the names though i redacted them so then we see a clip of that and then uh gertie is like yep and julia got embarrassed and so they walked out and stephanie wanted to go back in and hear what i had to say what happened and they were like oh no you're such a kiss ass can you believe it that's what they said even though it was redacted it was redacted

59:46Ben Mandelker: so um yeah we see like flashbacks and everything and we see like you know alexia confronting stephanie etc and like you know being like you want to go on there kiss gertie's ass then you do that etc nicole's like well these are like well these are like bling these are like bling alliances right like i don't understand that because if i'm someone's friend i will hear your story and be like you know what gertie that was wrong and you know what like maybe you shouldn't have said that and like i told you like after that comment about the facelift remember i told you the facelift comment was too far gertie and then we see the flashback to after getting water

1:00:21Ronnie Karam: thrown on her she tells uh julia you got a facelift while martina was in new york getting chemo That's you, face lived together. I didn't think that was so bad. Julia started it. I'm sorry.

1:00:33Ben Mandelker: Julia started it, yeah. Yeah.

1:00:35Ronnie Karam: And she's like, I told you that was tough, girl. Like, I don't know if I would have gone there. But that's what friends do. You know, we're honest with each other. And she's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Well, you know what? Blinders. You know what? You put on the blinders when you want to. And she says she's not proud of how she acted. But, and would I have done this as first choice? No. No. I would not have. But the fact is I tried every other way with everyone. And the only way left was to put text messages on a screen. That was literally the only way left.

1:01:05Ben Mandelker: That was the only way left for her.

1:01:08Ronnie Karam: When in doubt, rent a projector.

1:01:10Ben Mandelker: That's it. There was nothing else to do. That's all I could do. Nicole's like, well, I just don't understand what happened. I mean, we were all really good friends. Remember the day after your surgery, we picked up smoothies and Julie and I went to visit you. we sat in your bed and we see that you know from last year and she's like i just feel like there's been a big shift in julia because i never even seen julia hanging out with adriana anymore

1:01:35Ronnie Karam: oh well well we saw those two over the summer and you were like what's going on there you know because like she's been really into marisol and alexia and that's fine but that's you know that's to the detriment of ruining and she's like well um it's giving thirsty right she goes yeah you You know, middle school, like the new girl who comes in and then she doesn't have any friends. So she hangs out with whoever's there. But then like she figures out who the popular girls are and then she ditches those people. I just think it's so funny that Marisol and Alexia are considered the popular people. Like they're literally outnumbered.

1:02:08Ben Mandelker: It's just because Alexia just keeps on declaring herself as the popular girl. She literally said, I'm the star. She said, I was born a star. I am the star. and then Marisol is just like a tag along because they keep the dangling carrot for Marisol of a friend of so she's still waiting for her true glory to return so until she can be a full-fledged cast member she just has to hang on to Alexia so yeah I think that's how this whole cult of personality happened

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