#2963 Crappy Hour 8-11-25: Dorit Writes, Heather Reads, Gretchen Flails

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1:50Well, hello. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben and welcome to Crappy Hour. How are you doing today, Ben? I am great, thanks.

2:00Ben Mandelker: How are you doing? Not great, Ben. I had some terrible news this week having to do with Tonya Haddix from Chimp Crazy. She is going to jail for loving chimps. So is it even worth going on? I don't think so. I can't even believe I'm doing this today. I've been very upset. I mean, if you can't abduct a chimp and hide it from the authorities and lie in a courtroom, what can you do? But I love her. I don't care that she did anything wrong. I still love Tonya. I don't want her to go to jail. The star of HBO's Chimp Crazy will spend almost four years in federal prison for lying about a chimp named Tonka.

2:44Well, yeah.

2:48Ben Mandelker: I mean, if that's. what I mean what can you do in life anymore right can you even cross the street without waiting for a light to blink anymore for fuck's sake so anyway this is this is our weekly or our bi-weekly I guess show about all things Bravo but I had to slip that one in there right at the beginning because I'm really bummed and I don't like it stay strong Tanya freeze Tanya yeah freeze Tanya you know what don't even free her she would love that Yeah, put Walt Disney on her ass and freeze her until we get laws that are more protective of people who care too much about chimps. I mean, the woman's addicted to chimps, okay?

3:27Give an addict a break.

3:30Ben Mandelker: I feel like I saw a picture of her in jail or a mugshot or something, and she didn't have her wig anymore. She didn't have all her glam, and I just, I was sad. I don't like seeing that side of Tanya. I want to see her sort of 7-Eleven version of Jennifer Coolidge. So, yeah, it's tough. It's a tough time right now. It really is. The point you just brought up is totally valid and correct. Thank you. This is unfair that they're showing her without her glam, without her wigs, without her this, without her that. They don't give anybody else that disrespect. They let fucking Karen go to prison looking decent, I think.

4:08I'm assuming. I mean, you can't do this to her.

4:11Ben Mandelker: Everyone gets to go to prison looking decent. But Tanya is the one that they single out. They say wig has to come off. It's not right. That's not fair. I agree. All right. Well, that's Tanya. Stay strong over there, Tanya. If you're watching this from wherever, we love you. Maybe someone will hide Tanya in the back of a truck and bring her to a motel and bring her to the basement of some place in Missouri. Girl, you know that's why I'm going to jail. They're going to find Tanya in my basement. I'm going to be like, what? There's no one here. I don't know what you're talking about. And then the big twist in episode three is you're going to find her in my basement.

4:48I'm going to be like, Tonya, I brought you some chicken nuggets and some milkies.

4:55Ben Mandelker: Just bring her all the snacks, all the good stuff. And then you could play games with her where you like run around from like around her cage back and forth. I think that's great. Well, you know, I've been playing virtual reality games on this meta quest three, which I know is stupid. Everybody's going to make fun of me. I don't even care. So I'm not going to play games with her, but I will keep her in the basement and she can just watch me do this.

5:22Ben Mandelker: It's a common thing that people do in West Hollywood, just for reference. Can we give a shout out to Marissa, who is here in the chat? She says, hello, Ronnie and Ben. It's my 60th birthday. Happy birthday, Marissa. Thank you for spending a portion of it with us. 60 years old, Marissa. Staying sexy, man. You're doing it. congratulations happy birthday happy birthday babe yeah she's doing it no one took your no one took your shellac for your face today no one did that to you like that so just remember how lucky you are today marissa you still get to look hot yeah you know this is a great segue into something that i feel like is a very important topic for today speaking of people not getting to look their best on a public platform should we talk about larsa pippin who had a picture a still of her from a morning show go i would not say viral viral but like for for larsa it was viral it was just her looking she just looked puffed up everything looked puffed up more puffy than usual now i think for those of us who watch real housewives of miami this feels like par for the course um we watch these women's faces adjust and sink in and puff up again in real time across the season but i think for a lot of people they hadn't checked in with larsa for a while and they're like whoa what happened with larsa so she was getting a lot of shit about her face they're like oh my god what'd you do to your face what do you do your face as if like all this time it had been normal it's like wait a second can we can we ask the real question what haven't you done to your face I mean, girl, staple, shellac, nail gun, you know, chainsaw, the sewing club.

7:08Like you've done it.

7:09Ben Mandelker: Everything. Gotta have a hobby. Gotta have a hobby. So Larsa has actually come out with a, she came out with a response. And in the response, it's her face tuned, but it's a video. It's on her, I think on her Instagram. I'm going to try to play the audio through this. so that way we get the full Larsonness of it all. So hopefully you can hear it. I'm going to press play. I'll put up the video too, could you? Is it her Instagram? Oh yeah, I think I can do that. I think it's important because, you know, it's her face. The story's about her face. So I'm looking at it right now and it's her face. I mean, I don't know.

7:49I don't think there's anything wrong with it. And by the way, this is not look shaming somebody. This is like crazy craft shaming somebody. This woman's crafting is her face. That's what she likes to do. You know, some of us buy stupid video games like me to play. Some of them, you know, buy cars. Larsa buys shit for her face. She's like the Miss Potato Head of our time. And that is her right.

8:10Ben Mandelker: Both on the outside and the inside. Okay, so you can see here, here we are on X. You're a real potato on the inside. She's a real potato. She's a sprouted potato. Okay, this is courtesy of Queens of Bravo. And I'm going to press play. Hopefully you all hear it. Okay, so I feel like that photo went viral. I'm wondering if someone made it look like that because this is what my face looks like, you guys. I'm on TV, so you know what I look like. I just shot my reunion a couple of days ago, so you'll see what I look like at my reunion. I did have PRP. I did have an allergic reaction to the PRP, which I didn't even know you can have.

8:53Ben Mandelker: So my face is a bit swollen, but it doesn't look like that. So, keep on hating, guys. Okay, so. So, keep on hating, guys. I love Larsa saying that her picture went viral. Guys, as you may know, there's a picture of me that broke the internet. Most popular picture. Just was trending everywhere. Everyone couldn't stop talking about it. Cover of Time magazine. I feel like, I feel like, like it like went viral, like, but I feel like it's my like face, like. Okay, so she said she had an allergic reaction to PRP, which is a treatment that uses a concentration of your own blood platelets to promote healing in various conditions.

9:37So you're allergic to your own blood?

9:42Ben Mandelker: That's unfortunate. Well, like, you know, like, I didn't want to say this, but like, half my blood at this point is hard to even say what it is. They say there's dolphin in it, like raccoon, like jellyfish, like I've had so many treatments. Like it's hard to know what animals in me like dolphin. Look, I will. I will agree with what she's saying. I'm very agreeable today. Do you like it? I can agree with what she's saying. Like when she said, guys, this is my face. That's her face. I really don't know how that picture set anybody else off because that's what she looks like in the season premiere.

10:19so I think maybe in the season premiere she had just gotten a lot of stuff done and so it was still crazy looking and now it's normal crazy looking I mean it's always going to be crazy looking it's like trying to make a bounce house not fun they're always fun bounce houses are fun

10:36Ben Mandelker: and you know what bounce houses are so good at flying away during a tornado I swear I just watched it this morning I was like I'm going to go back on TikTok I'm never on TikTok first thing I see is like thunderstorms in Nebraska And it was like just lots of footage of bouncy houses, bouncy castles, just flying through the sky. It's like if you're a trampoline and you're a bouncy house, you know, there's one thing that's going to happen in your life. You're going to get blown away.

11:03Well, bless her heart. You know, she has a right to do whatever the fuck she wants with her face. So, you know, have fun. Have fun being crazy. I do remember way back in the day in Miami, someone in the comments is calling her mama Elsa. And I remember back in the day when she was like, oh, my God, Mama Elsa. Remember she made those comments like, ooh, that's just so much plastic surgery. I would never, you know, that reminds me of when I was younger and I'd be like, oh, my God, plastic surgery, Botox. I would never. Of course, I'm 25. I'm going to say that, you know, if you don't need it when you're 25.

11:35It's like when you're already hungry and someone's like, are you hungry? And you're like, I'm not ordering food. I don't need to ever eat again. You do the next day, you know, eventually you need it again. So I don't know. Be careful what you say, young people, because this is what you could be or me with my bruised eyes. You know, you end up somewhere.

11:53Ben Mandelker: Your eyes are looking fab. I also want to say that some people in the comments are saying that Dr. Jen, a.k.a. Jen Armstrong, formerly of Orange County, said that you can't have an allergic reaction to PRP. Now, I don't know where everyone saw it because I just tried to do some last minute Googling here and it didn't make any headlines. But maybe she said it on her social media. I love that Dr. Jen weighed in. She said it on the video. You mean Dr. Jen? You couldn't find evidence Dr. Jen said it or what? I just couldn't see where everyone was talking about, that Dr. Jen said you can't have an allergic reaction.

12:29Ben Mandelker: Oh, I thought you meant you couldn't find the Larsa. I thought you meant you couldn't find Larsa saying it was an allergic reaction. I was like, was her face that distracting? She just said it. I said it like, I guess it's on Dr. Jen's IG reel. What is with people who are possible narcissists who do this with their hair? They grab their hair and they pull it. It's something we've noticed a lot throughout the years. And you know who's bad at it? Narcissists. And I've noticed that Kim Zolciak does it all the time. She's double. Like she's double crazy. Pulling the hair. Like milking the camel. One for Brielle and one for Adriana.

13:06Ben Mandelker: Or Ariana. One for every dollar I steal from Ariana. The more you pull your hair, the more dollars come out of her account. Pulling, pulling, pulling. Oh, gosh. Listen, if Larsa can't have a crazy face, then what are we even doing in this world? You know, you go. You go, Larsa. You go off. Okay. Next, I think something that's been fun. Well, first, I guess before we move to some Orange County stuff, have you heard this Lindsay Hubbard is getting a spinoff? I have not heard that and I would love you to tell me about it well I'm trying to find articles like real articles no offense Bravo and Cocktails it's not like you're not real but I mean like where's Diane Sawyer you know what I mean I almost always ask that when Lindsay Hubbard comes up where's Diane Sawyer I'm not even saying you're not real but you know Bravo and Cocktails does do like blind items and you know gossip it's like someone coming to us for news you know you don't do it so Lindsay Hubbard reveals co-parenting struggles with Turner, blah, blah, blah.

14:15Okay. But where's the spinoff part? It says... Maybe Lindsay Hubbard's just going to spin.

14:22Ben Mandelker: Lindsay Hubbard's going to a spin class? Well, actually, all it says, it's a picture of Lindsay. And it says, Lindsay Hubbard's spinoff starts filming September 1st. We'll share as I get more information. And that's all I got. But that's from Bravo and Cocktails. So, I don't know. I would imagine it would need to be more people than just Lindsay, right? um does lindsey ever really need more people than just lindsey i would love to see the bravo's first ever one woman's show just lindsey doing things yeah i was i was thinking it might be like an ai clickbait article but i found it in bravo and cocktail so who knows you guys because you know those ai ones are like carrie underwood told the view to shove it she's suing them for 50 million dollars i believe everything i have you have to google everything you read now because it's mostly just AI slop.

15:11But maybe Lindsay can fight with AI slop. I don't know. But Lindsay does need other people.

15:17Ben Mandelker: AI slop is also what I casually call the summer house. Can Lindsay spin off be her just calling up Bravo and Cocktails and be like, um, did you hear about Carrie Underwood suing The View for$50 million? And then Bravo and Cocktails could be like, no, that's not happening, Lindsay.

15:43Ben Mandelker: you're really making me giggle like a little high-pitched giggle like a little

15:49Ben Mandelker: since you're talking about summer house i i have another question since you came with me to me with a question i'm going to answer the question of my own i saw a billboard the other day on melrose avenue and i'm going to send it to my to my mac for my from my uh phone i would like to know if this is Lexi Wood. I did light research, but I was driving. I didn't want to crash. I was like, I'm definitely not going to crash my car on account of Lexi Wood. Here it comes. Here comes the image. Is this Lexi Wood? Oh, gosh. It's so little. It says Princess Polly. It's a billboard that says Princess Polly.

16:30Let's see. It looks like her. You can see the lip liner The lip liner, right? Five miles away. So, yeah, I think it's her. Although she usually only covers the breast part. She always wears something that's kind of like a bikini top. So, I don't, I mean, is Polly a fashion brand or is it lipstick?

16:52Ben Mandelker: I've never seen it. Or is it for people who just want to date a lot of people at one time? Wait a second. I am just looking at it right now and I'm like, is that, is that her sister making adjustments? Oh my God. How did her sister get up there? She got up there with a big paintbrush to line her lips. Wow. And made a perfect circle. Wow. What's your sister doing? Oh yeah. Wow. It's perfect. Okay. So it is. Do that. That's so cool. God, the magic of the video. um it was it was i did it in the preview application and i accidentally did like this thing where men are drawing on her face i was trying to do more of a pencil look and it came out just as a weird circle but that's okay we are we are accepting oh um anyway um this is a good one uh kensley what is kensley's name kenley collins was her name right kenley collins yes did you read her stuff i just read this coming into this so i didn't have time to write it down Kenley Collins went off.

17:54This is from Dolphin Girl who gave us this story. Thank you for the reminder. So, Kenley Collins goes off on Andy Cohen on an Instagram post saying that he's worse than Harvey Weinstein. And when he was on the set of Project Runway, he was always treating all the designers like twinks that he could use and running around and being like, hey, twink. Which, I don't know. Wow. I don't know. So Andy, look, I will say the shocking thing in that is that Andy usually gets like hot stripper types, not really project runner designer types. So I don't know. But the point is Kenley is going off and saying she's got a lot to share from what, 20 years ago?

18:38I mean, when was that? How long has that show been on? She was like season five, right?

18:42Ben Mandelker: It was a long time ago. It was like OG run. And I'm not going to weigh in either way, whether she is telling the truth or not. But it is a little surprising to me that when Bethany Frankel was doing the whole reality reckoning thing that she didn't speak up at that at that moment. You know, obviously, she does bring that up. She does bring that up. And she said, here, let me find the exact quotes. So, blah, blah, blah. Do you guys really think Harvey Weinstein was the worst one on set? Andy Cohen's was. Andy Cohen was. Andy Cohen was disgusting, horrible, worst predator with the gays, hopping around the set like, hey, Twinks.

19:20Hey, Twinks.

19:21Ben Mandelker: Hey, Twinks. That's exactly what we often do. Hey, Twinks. I think I've said that before to people. So she referenced former Atlanta star Nene Leakes, who claimed that Cohen had created a hostile workplace. And she, yeah, basically, basically trying to lend credence to that. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on with her, why this is coming out now, but it'll be interesting to see what comes of that. Yeah, that's that's that'll be interesting to see. I'm sorry, because I got distracted because I was looking up Kenley Collins and an article from 2009 came up that said jail was really funny.

20:04Ben Mandelker: Cat attack runway finalist. Kenley Collins, the cat throwing project runway contestant, needed to help her feature potential designer. or anything. Wait, what is the... Kenley Collins threw a cat? I don't remember her throwing a cat. And Bumble Bear tells us Kenley was in season five, 2008. So 17 years ago. Dolphin says she was insufferable then. She's still the same. Meanwhile, she came back for all stars. Can't stand her. I don't think that she would stand for that. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I would like to hear if he's done stuff like that. I don't think going on set and saying hey twinks is is sexual abuse but you know obviously I'm gonna hold off my opinion until I hear what she has to say exactly and Marie makes a good point in the comments Harvey raped women he raped people yes yes that's that's quite different than um what anything that Andy Cohen has been accused of so far it's time for a commercial it's time for a Crapins Commercial.

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22:59Ben Mandelker: Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess. At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders. FX's The Shards, now streaming on Hulu. Bear says, my friend who worked on Top Chef said he was rude when he visited the set, but nothing predatory. Which I think just tracks. I mean, that's Andy. He's rude on the reunions. Is he? I don't know. I thought he had a reputation for being nice to everybody.

23:36Ben Mandelker: He is nice, but the way he clocks people, one could say is rude. That's what I meant. He's not always going to be rosy. I know you weren't contesting us, but it's just funny. so uh by the way did you get a chance to see the new project runway yet no you said it so i didn't watch it also now that things are coming uh the more episodes how many have there been three uh three i haven't watched the third yet it's just too much because now i have to sit down and watch it for like a whole day you know it's too much project runway and it's one show every two months yeah law roach is very funny law roach is super funny but like yeah i read controversy about it today that one of the contestants the producers told this contestant to show up in drag and so he did show up in drag but then once he got there they were like oh you're just letting your drag persona take over because your stuff is too much and they called one of his designs like uh vulva is it a vulva a uvula some woman part and then heidi said it looks like bottle opener and so he was all upset that he got tricked into doing drag only to be dragged down, if you will.

24:49Wow. So that kind of got me interested. And then LaRoche supposedly said, I'm mad that I even had to come here to look at that fashion. You guys are wasting my time. I could have been at lunch.

25:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, the vibe, it actually, I'm not surprised that he would say that. It does feel like the vibe is that they're kind of trying to be a little bit more like Drag Race on the show, where it's like, I don't know, it's like just trying to be jokey. I don't know, I just don't like it anymore. Debbie Anteen says everybody has a uvula. Okay, well noted. You know, God, I'm learning a lot today. Don't tell people hi, twinks. And I have a uvula. Yeah, I'm writing that in my notes. Charlie Brown is the Charlie Brown thing. I have a uvula. I would like to talk about something else. Putting that on a t-shirt.

25:35Ben Mandelker: This is, I'm bringing, I am, we all have a uvula. I'm bringing up something here. This is a minor story, but it's one that I have just been so fascinated with it for the past like two months. The ongoing tale of the crypto kidnappers in New York City. So I guess New York Magazine came out with a big article about it, which I tried to read. But it was behind a paywall. However, luckily, the Everybody's Business But Mine podcast. Love her. Yes. We love her. Yes. We love Kara. she took a screenshot of the most important part of the article which is Charlie's involvement from NextGen New York City so it's this very small part of the of the article but from well we I can't I can even just read it out loud which is that the the guys the the villains of the story the guys who who uh for those of you don't know abducted abducted this guy and tortured him because they wanted access to his bitcoin account and this guy would not give it up and so they held him in this townhouse in New York City for like two or three weeks, torturing him.

26:44Ben Mandelker: And the meantime, these assholes also were like throwing parties. And so they had an assistant, this guy named Morgan O 'Connor, who is a quote unquote, a well-connected club rat and former model known for a striking look, white with waist length dreadlocks. And then this guy, Morgan O 'Connor, seemed to know every bottle girl in the city. And he soon brought on Charlie Zaccour, a handsome 30-year-old starring on Bravo's Real Housewives spinoff Next Gen. And I'm sure that Charlie loves being referred to as someone on a Real Housewives spinoff. So we learned that they grew up together at the Manhattan party circuit.

27:24Ben Mandelker: They both dated Lindsay Lohan. And basically their job was to find young women to party with, bring young women to this townhome for the parties with these abductors. And so Charlie would like, he told a friend, they're going to drop stupid money, like life changing amounts of money. And I think we all know, we can totally imagine Charlie saying that. And he goes, they're ready to spend. And there was an unusual source to help stock the parties at 38 Prince, the Soho location of Brandy Melville on nearby Broadway. And so basically the article then goes on to say that the clothing shop is known for employing attractive young women, many of them part-time models.

28:05Ben Mandelker: Zucor had dated several of them over the years and often brought them and their friends to clubs and after parties. And sometimes he dropped by the store just to hang out, leading one employee to ask herself, what's an unk doing at Brandy? So that's the end of his involvement in the article. But I just love that he was lingering in this store and all the young sales girls the hot models were like who is this old guy creeping out over here so that is further so wait charlie was like creeping in the store trying to get girls to come to this crypto townhouse yeah for parties and he would go in there and creep out and they were like who is this unk and um kara actually writes a great what is like uncle yeah that's what my nieces call me unk Well, that's so creepy.

28:51Ben Mandelker: You're literally an uncle. Yeah. Kara says, obsessed with this New York City crypto torture story, more obsessed with Charlie from Next Gen New York City, essentially recruiting teen employees from Brandy Melville to the house, only to be referred to as an unk by then and being confused why he hung out in the store so often. It's so good. Oh, Charles. So that's the update on that. There's not much to say about it, but for those who wanted further texture on his whole involvement in that scandal, that is the deal. so far. Well, you want to talk about a real unk? Yes. Real unk. Carl Radke has revealed Guys, hold yourselves.

29:30Carl Radke has revealed to us weekly news. My middle name is Carl. We always, for whatever reason, as a family, went by our middle names. My brother even went by his middle name. But on my ID and passport, my first name, wait for it, it's William. It's crazy, right?

29:51Ben Mandelker: it's an obscure name that only people who live in a certain neighborhood of Pittsburgh would really get. It's called William. You know, it's like, it's a high shame name. So. It's William with a soft A. Carl is wearing a sleeveless tennis sweater with no shirt under it in this article. And he is gearing up for the official opening of Soft Bar and Cafe. Could have called it Billy Carl. I didn't get the space until January. We didn't start building until March. Guess what? From the time I've signed it to the time we'll be opening, Soft Circled, August 27th is going to be a grand opening. Wow, August 27th.

30:39That's next week. Two weeks.

30:43Ben Mandelker: That's almost perfectly aligned with Labor Day weekend. Famously, the season finale of Summer House. I hope he makes it. By the way, I just want to say we have a great bot in the chat. This is Gloria, who says, my name is Gloria Puschfonte. I'm America's favorite gay aunt. I'm here to remind you to clean your foreskin. When was the last time you cleaned out your foreskin cheese? It's a great question that she asks. Thank you for being here, Gloria. If you get foreskin cheese, you've waited too long. You know what I mean? You need to be better. You need to be a little bit more on top of it with your tips if there's already cheese you missed something gloria you're late wait she says i'm not a bot queen i'm a real gay lesbian okay very very nice all right thank you i don't know does that make it better either way i'll get better at your foreskin checks because you're behind yes uh so yeah that's that's the big carl news i know everybody was trying to hear it so had to share it's actually so funny because i was um i was walking to the gym today and i walked by a restaurant that I feel like is going to close very soon.

31:49Ben Mandelker: And I was like, I'm surprised this restaurant has stayed open for so long. And I was like, oh, I bet when it closes, I wonder if they have a good guy clause. I literally was like, I was saying good guy clause to myself in Carl voice. Oh, good guy clause.

32:07What restaurant was it?

32:09Ben Mandelker: It's a place called Mr. T's. And I really want to go there. I still haven't been. I'm contributing to the problem. Like T-E-A-S? It's like Mr. T. I think it's called Mr. T. It's like Mr. T. It's like Mr. T. Oh, I thought it was like a cute Bobo place. Like Mr. T's. I think it's called Mr. T's. I'm sorry, it's just called Mr. T. Mr. T. I think that's kind of an awkward name for a place. Maybe that's why they're closing. I mean, shut up, fool. From the 18th. You know, Mr. T, it was very tough. You're not always in a Mr. T mood for lunch. I heard that it's like a hot spot in Paris, but it's just sort of like empty in LA.

32:50Ben Mandelker: And I heard that it's like Beyonce's favorite restaurants. They opened it up because I think Beyonce allegedly has an office across the street. That's what the rumor is. Word on the street is that that's why Mr. T is there. But is Beyonce there? Because they did a lot of work to try to get Beyonce. As far as I can tell, I don't think Beyonce is going to be in there. Yeah, I got it. I will go support Mr. T. But I like that Beyonce's supportive of Mr. T. Like probably because she likes Mr. T. It just reminds her of, you know, her childhood. Yeah. So here's somebody who, here's a Mrs. T that I don't support.

33:32Tamara Judge. Okay, Tamara Judge's daughter, Sophia Barney, wants to be on Next Gen NYC. No. Okay. You know what? And you're not allowed. You're not welcome here.

33:45Ben Mandelker: You know, there's one small issue, which is that as far as we can see, you're in Orange County. And so, like, I know we made, like, an exception for Gia. But I don't know if we can make the umbrella of New York City go all the way to Orange County. Unless she has moved to New York City, in which case we can reevaluate. I think it's probably going to be a no, though, anyway. Yeah, it's going to be a no. Yeah, I mean, she seems nice and everything. But I don't want guest spots from Tamara. You know, that's why I say no. And also, you're not the first person to write a song about a cannibal. Do you know how many cannibal songs we were sent after your episode and we were talking about songs about cannibals?

34:18A lot. Okay? Write better dark songs. Write one about foreskin checking. You know? Check your foreskin before the cheese forms.

34:29Ben Mandelker: Gloria. There's a lot of people talking about Laura Branigan in the comments. I think because Gloria is here. So people are referencing the song Gloria. so maybe Sophia could do a cool remix of a Laura Brannigan song and then we can talk but I actually kind of want for next gen New York City I kind of want the I kind of want a cast cut off I don't want to bring in any more kids from the suburban shows I think I just want rich kids from New York City to be added on to the show so purely just like I don't know if I want someone from Orange County infiltrating the show it should really be people from the Upper East Side would make me happy or the Upper West Side.

35:10Ben Mandelker: I'll accept them too. I think just leave it alone. That's what I say. Yeah. It's good if it is. It's too late. I don't want you all flying your kids in for screen tests. It's already done. It's already cast. It's already done. I think anybody else they cast, they should just cast people who are already in New York naturally. Also, I have to say, I love this gold rush that's happening with Bravo stars trying to whore out their children to get on to like next gen New York City or like a rumored next gen Los Angeles, the way they are all adding to the rumor mill, because you know, they're the ones like telling the reporters, Oh, I heard that like my child is going to be in talk.

35:48Ben Mandelker: You know, Kyle Richards fully leaked actually Kyle, all the daughters on the council, they've all leaked it probably. Oh, well, you know, Sophie, Sophia or like Portia or Farrah, they're all in talks to me in next gen New York City. You know, like Kyle is going to be coming and wearing a backpack being like, I heard that I wasn't talked to being in Next Gen New York City. Like, stop it. Everyone is rushing so hard to be on this show. It is hilarious to me. Yeah, guys, everybody thought it was going to be trash. You all dissed it. I'm sure everybody wanted to be on the show. It's like, that show's going to fail.

36:17And now it's successful, and you all want a piece of the pie. I'm sorry, the pie is served. It's already been served. You don't get to be a piece of the pie. You're not in the pie. You're not in the pie.

36:26Ben Mandelker: It makes me feel like the world is about to explode, and there's a spaceship and there's limited like seating on the spaceship and they're all trying to get their kids on the spaceship to start a new civilization they take my child please put it on next-gen new york city yeah that was a good movie is that the end of the world now had to all get their kids on the 2012 yeah all the rich kids got on all the rich people got on there or whatever and then all the poor people were like no but i think the rich people all died too Usually I do. So let's see. We did some Carl stuff. I mean, I guess there's this Gretchen likes homophobic, transphobic posts.

37:05I went off on that on The Real Housewives of Orange County. You know what? I don't need to fill myself with rage today. Gretchen, you still suck as much as you did this past weekend or this past last week in our recap. Okay? Shame on you. So I'll just stop there. If anyone wants to hear stuff about that, then go check out that recap. because there's better stuff to talk about in Orange County, like Heather Dubrow.

37:27Ben Mandelker: Heather Dubrow. We're going to have to create a jingle, like an under-the-sea jingle for claw hands arriving. Heather Dubrow news.

37:40Alfredo, Alfredo, Alfredo, Alfredo.

37:44Ben Mandelker: Everything's better where it is wetter because you can tell Alfredo, wipe up the wetness. so stupid uh well first in the news uh heather and terry sold their mansion that they've been trying to sell on the shah and they sold it for 16 million they had originally um put it up for sale at 25 million so that's crazy that's a crazy uh low amount to be selling it but you know we all know they're full of shit anyway and they would never would have gotten that so i don't know if they lost money if they made money but you know what this is why i trust the best realtors on the market josh and josh heather dubrow bringing people together i am heather dubrow i am fun and relatable and i am always very hilarious i am a happy person ha ha ha ha and then we move on to gina so gina kirchenheider uh the headline is to that gina kirchen schneider Gina Kirken Schneider Kirshen Schneider I just need her to have a stage name at this point Why is Carl changing his name from William but you can't change it from Kirshen Schneider Kirshen Schneider Yeah exactly How about William?

39:01Change it to Carl Gina Williams

39:04Ben Mandelker: Gina Carl Williams So Gina Kirshen Schneider confirms Heather Dubrow leaked Katie's custody info ahead of orange county reunion this was on taste of reality but i'm actually not reporting on that reporting what i am reporting on is heather dubrow's response to that okay hold on a sec so basically what happened was gina goes on watch what happens live and the question was gina isn't it a little bit hypocritical that you guys are mad at katie and calling the bloggers when Emily researched Katie's custody battle and put that on the reunion. Yes, it is hypocritical, Andy. There's the real answer. But Gina was like, no, because you know what?

39:52A lot of people don't know this. But it wasn't even actually Emily who did the research. It was DeBrow. So she accused Heather of being the one to do the research on Katie Janela's children or lack thereof at the moment. Custody of.

40:12Ben Mandelker: Alfredo, Alfredo. My turn. My turn. Let's set the record straight. First of all, I do not research anyone. That is not my M.O. That stands for why I won't even say what it does, Gina. I do not have time or interest to try to dig something up on other people. I am a working actress who has many auditions to go to Gina I don't have time to do this for the reunion last year there was a lot of stories in the media circling about Katie and some of us were sending them to each other because it was overwhelming and crazy and I did in fact send the article about Katie's custody to Emily I did nothing more than that and I would never have brought this up at the reunion I actually went to Katie during the reunion I actually went up her during the commercial break and i said to her this must have been a very difficult time for you i'm sorry you had to go through that i never would have brought this up you know i never would have brought this up kids and careers are off limits for all of you out there making wendy malik jokes off limits not really sure why gina chose to include me in her response on the show or make it sound salacious, but it was not.

41:35And I will not adjudicate this again.

41:38Ben Mandelker: No more adjudications. No more discussions. It's over. Well, look, first of all, what Heather is saying is correct. The stories about Katie and her custody and all that dirty mud that was slung was in the news before the reunion. I'd read all that stuff before. So that stuff was out. The point is, is you guys planned to bring it up and embarrass the woman. And Emily for sure did. And for sure that for Emily to be like, whoa, whatever, it was in the blows. You brought that shit on national TV for millions of people. And Gina, you sticking up for her makes you just as fucking gross. And we all know Heather had something to do with it too because she's passing the info along to her little minions before the reunion because she knows that they're going to carry her water.

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44:30Ben Mandelker: What I don't like is that Gina is actually trying to abdicate any responsibility. Like, oh, I didn't do anything. Was Heather who did it? It's like so Gina to do that. Heather's like, yeah, I was messy. I didn't. I didn't have an investigator. I wasn't searching. And I didn't call it Bodiedle. But Gina's like, it was Heather. And I just feel like this is what Gina always does. She casts stones. And then she hides away. and then she sells out her people. She sells out friends. She's having a kiki with some friends and being shady or worse. And she's always selling people out every single season, every single interaction.

45:12Yeah, you know, people, there's always a discussion every season about Emily and Gina, right? Because they suck. And by the way, I saw something today that said Emily and Gina have been on OC longer than Dorinda was on Real Housewives of New York. Let that sit in. Isn't that crazy? So anyway, there's always a discussion every season because the audience is like, get rid of these two idiots. Why are these two boring idiots on TV? Why do we have to watch them every single season? The show is tanking and you just keep them. It's like you change everybody around them. It makes no sense. There's this discussion every season that they're on, right?

45:48And sometimes people are like, why don't you like them? Just because they're not rich. Gina's not rich. No, it has nothing to do with her not being rich. Yes, it does.

45:55Ben Mandelker: For me, yes, it does. Well, for me, I don't care about that because I don't think any of them are rich. I think all of them are really Gina poor, but they pretend to be rich. I think at least 90 % of them are that poor. I like the pretending. Well, that part doesn't bother me personally as much as this. She's a bad friend. Ultimately, this show is about friends. Gina is a friend to nobody, and Emily is a friend to nobody. They're terrible people. They're terrible humans. They're terrible friends. That's it. I don't want to watch that. I mean, ultimately, the show is like bickering and stuff like that.

46:25But I think what keeps me coming back is they're funny women who generally are good friends to each other. The fights are usually like, you weren't a good friend to me because X, Y, Z. Okay, well, how can I be a better friend? That's ultimately what the show is, right? At least to me. So you guys suck. You suck at your jobs. You're not funny. You're not fun. And you're terrible friends.

46:45Ben Mandelker: Go away. Here's the thing. You can be a terrible friend or you can be... No, let me say it this way. you can either be a good friend but boring or entertaining but a terrible friend but what you can't be is a terrible friend who's boring and that's what they are they're terrible friends who are boring and i feel like every season we at a certain point we feel we feel bad because i think like we actually in a weird way i feel like we do sort of root for these people on a certain level because we actually are all fans of these shows we like them we want them to work we want these shows to succeed and sometimes i get to a place where i'm like you know like i shit on gina so much but she's actually like doing the work she's the story's moving forward because of her she's stirring the pot emily's stirring the pot she's obnoxious but she's doing the thing and i kind of like you'll hear me do it on the podcast every single season and i sort of like eat my words a little bit and say you know i get them all so much shit but you know the truth is they're actually like they're working for their money i do the whole thing but you know i'm sick of doing the whole thing they're boring and they suck yeah they suck no excuses get rid of them I'm so tired of those two.

47:57Big shocking news. This has nothing to do with Gina. Thank God. But Teresa Giudice admits marriage with Louis Rullis hasn't been easy amid rumors about financial struggles. I don't even need to read that. I don't even need to read that one. My response to that is, duh, no shit, Teresa. Okay, Teresa's the person you literally hold back at the crosswalk and say, don't, a bus is coming. And she walks out and gets hit by the bus. am I supposed to stop and pick you up? No, stupid. I tried to hold you back. I'm busy. I have to get to work.

48:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. No shit. Your relationship with Louie, nothing that Louie ever does is easy. Why do you think he has five veins popping out of his forehead at all times? Why do you think he looks like a tomato? This is why. Because everything is stressful. Did you see the letter that I think Gia or Joe Giudice was, I don't have any of this in front of me. I just remember reading it. this week. Joe Giudice was writing a letter to Trump or tweeting Trump or something being like, hey, you know, it's time for another chance. You know what? Like, who cares? Like, let me back. Let me back. It's like, I'm a good Republican.

49:03You know, like I'm a good Trumper, whatever. Let me back. And so the family has been like kind of fighting social on social media because that's the only place that Donald really pays attention to. They know his attention there. And so they're kind of begging him on socials to let Joe back. And then today, Joe had a post shirtless, which nobody needs that and it said um like oh my god what another day is like waking up in beautiful italy well make up your mind what do you want what do you want you need to be consistent in your social media begging sir also like why did it take you so long to realize this is what you're

49:37Ben Mandelker: supposed to do when i i think i said said it or i was predicting it a long time ago that joe judice is going to appeal for a pardon like in the first trump term because teresa was on the apprentice she already had a relationship with trump so i thought this was already going to happen i'm surprised took him this long but and i think he will get a pardon by the way i think i think it's going to work out for him i'm just going to say because it seems like any reality star who's pledged allegiance can get pardoned at this point yeah well speaking of parasites um brandy glanville has named her facial parasite god damn it i can't read this site the site is cancer it every time i open it it's what is this page six page six do better i need a full page at &t ad that I can't get past to read your fucking article.

50:20You assholes. Fucking page six. Page six, you're better than this, right? So she named her facial parasite Caroline after Caroline Manzo and really thought she did something hilarious there. But then she topped herself by putting Nair all over her face to catch the worm and to catch Caroline and burnt her face off.

50:42Ben Mandelker: Wasn't Terry DeBros supposed to fix this? Wasn't he like, she had to come into my office and I'll figure out how to deal with it. Like what, what happened to that? What happened to the botched guys going to town here to this? I say, can Terry Dubrow fix himself before he starts working on anybody else? It's like getting your car worked on by someone who drives a bike. Okay. It's ridiculous. It's like getting hair advice from me. Yeah. Poor Brandy Glanville with, I saw the pictures and she has burned herself and her face is now orange. I mean, this is really, uh, I don't really wish this on anyone, this parasite situation that she's going through.

51:17Ben Mandelker: But it does feel like we're watching an allegory. Or we're watching, like, there should be something that says, like, from the creators of the substance comes the parasite. Like, this is, it feels like this is some sort of commentary on modern beauty. Even though, actually, she got the parasite not from anything pertaining to beauty treatments. It's just, there's something about it. Well, no one knows where she got the parasite. And no one knows what the hell's going on with her. Vicky said that she got the same parasite in Thailand or whenever they shot that real war. But they shot it in Thailand, right?

51:49She said she got that. Well, no, it was in Thailand. Where did they shoot that girl's trip that didn't air? Morocco. Okay. So then Vicky, well, Vicky wasn't in Thailand. I'm getting all my girl's trips mixed up. Vicky said that she was there. She was somewhere and she got a parasite too. Anyway, I don't know.

52:08Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I don't know. But I feel bad for the parasite being stuck in Brandy's face. I mean, God, couldn't you? Aim up. I know, you would think at this point. But yeah, I guess that saga is still going on. And I'm surprised no one can fix it yet. But I guess that's the way it goes. Another thing that I think is amusing, you know, we were just talking about Teresa. And the cast has been announced for the new season of Special Forces, a show that no one I know actually ever watches. I think it seems to exist solely for casting notice, like casting headlines to be like, this is the cast. And everyone's like, oh my God, what a funny cast.

52:54Ben Mandelker: And then like people, I think the only thing that ever came out of that show over three seasons was like Jojo Siwa carrying Tom Sandoval. But the new cast from Bravo, the people who are going to be on this, we've got Brittany Cartwright, Teresa Giudice, and even Marcille, at least. I don't know if there's any others on there. Jussie Smollett. Right. I meant just from Bravo. But Jussie Smollett, that is a very funny casting. That's a choice.

53:23Ben Mandelker: Oh, my goodness. That's a choice. Oh, Chanel. It's like, please cast somebody on this show that will make me look credible. They're like, oh, we're having trouble. I'm not going to get Teresa this time. And they found him. They finally found him. Is Chanel, oh, never mind. Chanel Iman, not Chanel Ion. I was like, wait a second. Yeah, so it looks like that's our Bravo representation. I can't even imagine Teresa in boot camp. I'm sort of excited to see that. I thought we was learning to make boots.

53:54Ben Mandelker: Can we rename the show? I get a little triggered when you say camps. Okay. Okay. My favorite piece of news, and we'll end with this before we start talking to you guys, is that Dorit Kemsley has a memoir on the way. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star chronicled my story behind my curated image seen on screen in Unburdened, moving on, letting go, and putting it all on the table. So she has written a book called Unburdened. Please. Please make us stop. Dorit's so full of shit, Ain't nothing in here is going to be true. And I cannot wait to make you read it for some podcast. So you can tell.

54:39Ben Mandelker: Oh my goodness. It's going to be the best book since Sheen O'Shea's. It'll be so self-serving and hilarious. It'll be like people I have hooked up with. Boy George, Prince Harry, Prince William, just to name a few. In general, the language of Italia. I've hooked up with both air and mez. I hope every chapter is like, French! Well, I've picked up my French accent. Because, you know, she's got so many accents because she's a child of the world. So it would be fun to hear her, like, describe how she picked up each individual one that brings together a perfect, perfect, quail accent. It will be a great book because it's going to be, first of all, largely fictional, and it is going to be very globetrubbed.

55:30Ben Mandelker: You know, every chapter is going to be some fantastical story about how she was, you know, in, you know, like Hong Kong, uh, abducted by a triad and she was like ransomed. And all she was trying to do is get to the factory where she was manufacturing Beverly beach. You know, like everything is going to be some amazing story. I think it's going to, it could get optioned and become a blockbuster movie. I'm going to say there are pictures of her, there are pictures of her walking with Hermes bags. I don't know if she supplied these pictures but i saw them all over twitter last night and i didn't include them on our on our document because i just didn't i couldn't tell if these were pictures she had posted on her instagram that people were gramming or not but uh it's her shopping with like two hermes bags and it's like you know look at dorit having a big shopping day shot look at all the stuff from hermes that she's buying but then people zoomed in and you see that next to one of the Hermes bags is like some foot artifact.

56:31Ben Mandelker: So it was like copied and pasted, like the Hermes bag was copied and pasted. So great. So I didn't want, I was like, I don't want to put this all on Dorit just yet because I don't know the context of the larger picture, but whoever did this picture did some great sloppy photos. Was that on Reddit? Cause I saw a Reddit post about somebody saying these are, these are fake, you know, or that she had been, they were bags that she had already used and you could tell because they were crinkled up at the bottom and stuff and she's it's just like all her target stuff that she puts in air maze bags yeah people were talking about that too but then someone zoomed in and you could see also that like it wasn't even like bags they weren't even real bags i think oh i don't know i just well i was um you know i have a little dyslexia left over from being a kid and so sometimes letters will jumble themselves up to me and when i read the title of her book i thought it said unearned and i read the whole article thinking it said unearned and i was like finally a book title that makes sense on this channel you know but it didn't it said unburdened i think my dyslexia had it correct honestly yeah there's something that's very the you know what's funny is like calling your book unburdened what's so funny about it to me is there's nothing about the word unburdened that is fat shaming but there's something like burden implies connotes heaviness so like there's something about calling your book unburdened which feels like a dig at PK being heavy.

57:55Ben Mandelker: I don't know. Like, I, I feel like there's like a subtle thing there, right? Did you pick up on that vibe or is that just me? Thinning down, lightening up. The story of Dr. Timsley. Diabetes zero. How I got rid of diabetes in life. All right, everybody, that brings us to the insulin. ensalade. And more ensalada. That brings us to the end of the news portion of Crappy Hour. We're going to talk to you guys over on YouTube TV for the next 10 minutes or so. So if you guys want to talk to us, join us live every other Monday 5.30 Pacific time. And thanks so much for being here. If you want the videos, obviously this one's always free on YouTube.

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