#2967 The Valley S2E18 Part 1: When The S**T Hits The Fanet

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1:52Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, that's Ronnie Karam, and today we are celebrating the final episode of Jax being on Bravo. Until he's uncancelled again. But for right now it seems pretty good. Seems like this is the one. This is it. This is it. Seems steady, eh? Yeah. Hey Ronnie, how's it going? I'm good. How you doing? I'm doing really well. I'm sad that the Valley's over. It was really so stunning this season. Great, great work. And I think I would have to categorize myself as quite happy. Also, I'm quite happy because tomorrow, of course, we are going to have our Miami recap.

2:40Ben Mandelker: And we already saw the Miami episode. I've got to say, it was so good. I was laughing so hard through so much of it. I cannot wait to recap it. But then in case people didn't hear, Miami is actually moving to Thursday nights. So we have a little bit of a traffic jam with our recaps because we just do with our scheduling and we also have nothing on Monday. So what we're going to do is Orange Counties are going to be on Friday and then Miami recaps will be on Monday mornings that we finally have something on Monday mornings again. So that is the programming update on that front. That's been super bizarre.

3:13I mean, they're not going to have anything on Wednesday, Tuesday or. What the hell? Monday is Below Deck. No, Monday is Below Deck. Tuesday is McBee, right? But then next Tuesday...

3:29Ben Mandelker: No, Monday is McBee and Below Deck. Tuesday, I don't think there's anything on there. Tuesday, they're going to show Love Island, which is bizarre. They're going to show last season of Love Island. They're starting it from the beginning, it looks like. And then Wednesday... Maybe they'll do more Love Island? I don't know. Then Thursday... I actually, believe it or not, I'm actually okay with them moving Miami to Thursday. And the reason why is they're putting it behind Orange County. So they're not going to have an Orange County lead in, which I think is, that's nice because it means to me that Bravo is trying to get more viewers on Miami.

4:05Ben Mandelker: I think, uh, I think that we're just trying to have Miami anchor a whole night. And for whatever reason, I don't, I can't explain many people's actions in 2025. so I can't explain why people are watching Miami. I think people are watching it. The chatter is going up and up and up and up. I think it's getting to that. It's approaching where it needs to be but for people who are here listening to our Valley recap and have never watched Miami, I mean, you are so missing out. I finished watching the episode and I was like, this is really the perfect show. There are some times I watch Miami. I actually think it may even be better than Salt Lake City because it is just so good.

4:44Ben Mandelker: So that's my plea for everyone to watch Miami because it's you just don't want to miss out. That's me. I got to watch Miami. Come on. Be a good American. Be a good American. But anyway, go with your eyes. But with your eyes. Patreon.com slash watch for crap happens is our Patreon. We have bonus episodes. We'll record one later today. And we also have crap is on demand where you can watch us, not just listen to us. So get the full experience over there. And then lastly, on Monday, after a few hours after our Miami recap, we are going to be doing Amazon Live and we will be talking about some of our favorite products.

5:22Ben Mandelker: So join us over there because we have way too much fun doing that. So that's all the news. That's the updates. You might even do something a little special since we're going to be short a recap or two. So you never know what's going to come down the pike. And guess what? We don't know either because we haven't. I don't know either. We haven't discussed it. I have no idea. I have no ideas. It's going to be special. Whatever it is. I watched Alien Earth last night. Pretty special. I'm sure a Bravo audience would love it. That would actually be kind of a funny thing to recap, even though it does look scary.

5:54Ben Mandelker: I'm actually okay with it. Tamara gets sent down to Earth on a crashed alien ship. Tamara. Yeah, seriously. It's terrifying. It's the original xenomorph. They're just like, that's my opinion. All those aliens, all those, you know, morphs are like little Tamras running around eating cats and Tom Skerritt. They are. And then they have the Larsa, the like cyborg who has changed from, you know, she got too much Botox and filler in her face. So they had to move her personality into a different body. They've got her. It's going to be very good. I only saw the first alien. I've actually never seen any of the others, including aliens, which I I've been meaning to watch for, I don't know, about 20 years.

6:37Ben Mandelker: Oh, that's a classic. I know. One of the best sequels ever of all time. I loved Alien. I love it. We should recap Alien someday. Wouldn't that be funny if we just recapped the original Alien? Sure, we should. I'm down. Next week, we're on. It's Alien Week. We should celebrate Alien Week or Alien coming on TV by recapping the original Alien. Why not? The original Alien. Do you think she's a lesbian? We can just ask that every five minutes like people did in the movie theater.

7:08Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. So funny. Speaking of aliens, let's talk about this cast of the Valley. So, yeah, I'm I'm so excited for you, Ronnie. I am so, so thrilled because I feel like today you're really going to have a fun time. This is going to be, yes, the fire hose will open and I cannot wait to hear your rage. I feel, I was watching the episode last night. I was like, Ronnie is going to be furious. Really? I mean, I just watched and kept going, oh, shut up. I mean, I feel like the same amount that I always do, but I feel very peaceful and calm today and rage free. So let's see. Let's see what happens.

7:53Ben Mandelker: All right. Well, here we are. our part three of this reunion, a really strong reunion. And also one of the few times I will say all three parts were deserved. I felt like it was crammed full of good stuff. And where we left off was this fight with Danny and Jason, being like, you're a clown, dude. You're like a clown. You're a clown. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? How could you call me a clown? You know how many times I tried out for that role? You know what? I'm sorry. Why do you have to bring up my trauma trying to audition for it? It's just not nice. Daniel spent months hiding under the grate on our street, trying to get method to get that role, and he still didn't get it.

8:29But you know what, Daniel? Don't let them steal your peas. Don't let them steal your peas, Daniel.

8:34Ben Mandelker: You don't even know how many red balloons I inflated, okay? I was getting into the role. So, Janet's like, you know what? I'm actually glad I've talked about it a lot, because it's happened multiple times ever since. Multiple times the sexual assault has happened. And we don't have evidence, nor we have stories. We don't even have fake stories about how it happened. But I'm just going to say to everyone, it's happened multiple times since. And Andy, who, I mean, we all suspect, has grabbed plenty of butts in his day and told people, get daddy a drink. Okay? Like, let's just get that out there, okay?

9:10I think we all know that this happens on a regular basis. Andy is just perplexed by this whole line of questioning, even though it's his. Slash bored. But, you know, he's very like, wait, so you're saying he's touched other women's butts? Like, why do I care about this? I mean, he just has this look on his face. Like, is this what we've gone to on the show? And Janet's like, well, he's been inappropriate and made other women feel uncomfortable multiple times since. As recently as the Super Bowl. Dun, dun, dun. First of all, isn't the Super Bowl National Women Feeling Uncomfortable Day? I mean, I think men have been making women feel uncomfortable on the Super Bowl since the dawn of the Super Bowl.

9:54I've never been to one where I haven't been uncomfortable for every woman in the room. Okay. Yeah. Second, prove it. And by the way, I know I'm minimizing by making jokes about what Danny did. It's just that it's talked about ad nauseum. You know what I mean? So, yes, Danny still sucks for grabbing someone's butt and doing all of that stuff. But Janet is just taking it to this level that's ridiculous. Prove it. Where are these multiple times, Janet? Who are these people? Name them. Name them and name them.

10:23Ben Mandelker: Here's the thing. I actually don't doubt that Danny has gotten drunk and then flirty and made people be like, giving people the creeps, you know? I don't either. I think we both believe that. I think that the problem is that Janet is, you know, she's doubling down, I think, because she doesn't really want to pull. She doesn't want to take anything back. So she's kind of doubling down and now making herself a crusader on this topic that she's I'm not sure she's qualified to be the advocate in this moment. Like because she doesn't she's not bringing like facts to be like, hey, listen, I've got to say on this occasion, this happened, this occasion, this happened, this occasion, this happened.

11:04Ben Mandelker: and she's not bringing i don't know she's she's not bringing enough so it just is coming out as kind of like sort of general like accusations which i just think is like a little harmful like i think it's and and i think that she's doing it really you know there's something about the sanctimoniousness of the not the sanctimoniousness of it but it's like the she is putting herself in this crusader position, it almost feels like to retroactively sure up her position, sure up the fact that she was over the top in yelling sexual assault on that boat, I think. Yeah, and I think that the reason, the reason it's so effective is because the argument that she's using is designed to make you uncomfortable.

11:49It's designed to make you unable to argue with it because she's using, she's taking the old victim cloak, right? And she's using that, You can't argue with the victim cloak. So she's taking that and she's using that as a weapon against someone. But none of it is her. None of it is her victimhood. So when it comes to Jasmine, okay, we get the Jasmine thing. Jasmine has every right to stand up. And actually, Janet has a right to say something about it, too, frankly. Yeah, and I think that Janet is like... You know that he did that. You're allowed to be an ally. But she's taking these terms. Right.

12:23She's taking these terms. She's taking terms like he's made women feel uncomfortable. Well, we all know what that means. She's taking terms like sexuals. She's taking these big terms and she's using them as weapons because you can't argue with those terms. Because if you argue them, then people are saying, why are you standing up for someone who would make women feel like that or do that to women? It's not standing up for Danny. Danny's a pig for doing that. But Janet's a pig for taking all of these things to fight with somebody just because she doesn't like them when she doesn't believe any of this shit.

12:52And you can't go around accusing people of like sexual assault when you have no proof. And I'm not talking about the Jasmine thing. I'm talking about this. You've made inappropriate. You've made women feel uncomfortable. Well, who is it?

13:04Ben Mandelker: So then we find out because I mean, it's a little fraught because I think when it comes to discussions and this is where it's all becomes like this ball of yarn, because when it comes to discussions of like, oh, you have no proof. A lot of times there is never proof in these incidents. So it's like sort of it always comes down to what he said, she said. And this is why actually a lot of guys get away with it because there's never any proof. But I think that what we're kind of I do think we're agreeing on this, which is that we seems like on that boat, she blurted out sexual assault, which like technically maybe that technically.

13:36Ben Mandelker: OK, it fits under there. But realistically, we understand that the word those that phrase is loaded with a lot more meaning than just the legal definition. And she she took it too far by saying that. And instead of sort of saying, I did take it too far. or that was bad, she's now doubling down and actually saying that now she's going to be an advocate for this sort of stuff, which is hard to argue against, because who would say, fuck you for being an advocate against sexual assault? No one's going to say that, but she's also, like you said, victim cloaking herself by doing so. Well, and just to your point where she's saying, where victims are often met with the argument, there's no proof and you have no proof.

14:14That's what she's counting on. But she's not a victim. She's not the victim. So also like it's like saying you don't have proof of what you're accusing people of doing these other people have not accused him You are accusing him with no proof So that's the difference But she's taking this terminology that if you argue with it in any way, you're just a pig misogynist who's standing up for someone who did something shitty, which I'm not doing I'm not saying people are accusing us necessarily I'm saying that that's the arguing that she uses and that's why she's a dangerous person She's a gross fucking person and it's also like done this multiple times.

14:47Who are they? You have to name them now. And to say the Super Bowl, okay, great. So then Mia's telling her, that's a lie, Janet. You're so good at lying. And you're making it sound like he's going out and grabbing women when he drinks. And she goes, well, until the behavior stops, I don't feel bad about talking about it. And there's a couple of people on this stage that know about it. Okay, then who? Let's find out who. So Janet -

15:06Ben Mandelker: She's doing enough. She's doing enough. Like, it's almost like she just, like maybe we don't need proof, but maybe we need to hear like, what are you talking about? What has brought you to this place? Like, what have you heard? Because it's like, you can't just like go halfway and say, I heard things. And then you don't follow up with any details. Maybe it's not that we need proof. We maybe need details. Well, it's not proof. No one said proof. I mean, I guess I said prove it. But I'm saying name the people. Name them. Like, if you're going to name the people. But you can say, like, this happened.

15:39Ben Mandelker: On this, you know, what I heard from someone is that Danny did X, Y, and Z to them. And then this person said Danny did the X, Y, and Z. But if you're just like, I heard things, I think that's very harmful. It's like either you don't say it or you say it and you come in with sort of like, this is something that really happened. And we should all as a cast be concerned. But that sort of half and half thing is like not great. Well, exactly. And from what we know from the show, from what we've seen her say, she said, you went to a fan event. You were at a fan event and you were grabbing people's butts or doing whatever.

16:10You were doing all this stuff to fans, right? And you were making the fans really uncomfortable. Well, who did you hear that from? Brittany. Well, Brittany, did she say that? Well, I didn't I didn't I didn't see that. Jason said it. And then Jason, did you see it? No, I never said that. So that's what we know so far. So this is where Janet's dad. This is the ice that Janet is standing on. And it's making me crazy that the only people calling her out are the people that are being kind of attacked with it. And they really have no leg to stand on because Danny did do that with jasmine so it's like he's he's got so that's why that's why i have to make it very clear i'm not standing up for danny like fuck danny okay this isn't about danny this is about her taking something that's very serious to a lot of people and minimizing it for her own shallow gains and it's really frustrating to watch so now they do it again so nia calls her out for being a liar they said who told you this what who are you talking about who are these couple of people you're talking about so janet says well michelle and michelle says um okay so britney well you said that you felt uncomfortable on your birthday around dan okay shocker this came from britney again

17:18Ben Mandelker: so but now this was interesting because britney starts giggling very uncomfortably she's like well you know danny did get pretty drunk and you were like you were like following me around for a little bit but like i mean you didn't like mike and you didn't touch me nor nothing but like his personality just was very much changed and like he started being very flirtatious and i I don't really know how to explain it, but he wasn't that same guy as he was on Halloween. And I was like, I low key thought this was like a little upsetting because she seems so uneasy about this. I think she just didn't want to be lumped into all of Janet's bullshit.

17:50Ben Mandelker: But she basically was saying again, like he was getting flirty with me and like she wasn't gonna bring it up. And she's like, yeah, he was flirting with me. I mean, like Danny clearly is not a good drunk. I'm sorry, he's not. But then, you know, Janet. Yeah, it's not that he's a good drunk. It's right. Britney said something like Danny was wasted. Danny was wasted. And I don't know if he was for a lot. Like, I don't know what that deals. Whatever she told Janet, Janet took it to say he's made women uncomfortable multiple times since until his behavior stops. His sexual assault behavior stops. It's like just it's just so it's just frustrating to watch it.

18:28You know, she makes me crazy. She makes me fucking crazy.

18:33Ben Mandelker: so Nia's like I think it's that's important to specify because the way that Janet talked about it he's like well you said he grabbed people and Jason's like no I didn't say he grabbed people yeah you did you said the same thing he's like well he's gone he's done things other times and it just it wasn't Jasmine and Melissa that's all I'm saying so Andy's like Danny Jasmine said Santa Barbara that she knows you have a drinking problem do you think you have a drinking problem He's like, oh my God, Angie, Angie, Angie, Angie. I don't, I mean, I have a drink problem. That's ridiculous. And Jasmine's like, well, the only reason I know you have one is because of what you did.

19:14Ben Mandelker: And you know, I felt like there had to be some kind of issue or something with alcohol. And then Jason's like, do you think you have a drinking problem? Do you think you have a, I'm like, even if he did have a drinking problem, why on earth Is he going to have like a come to Jesus moment with you, Jason, after you and Janet have just come so hard for him? Yeah, I think at this point it's pretty clear he has a drinking problem. And I actually agree with Jason when he says we all have a drinking problem. It's the most honest. I think he was trying to trick Danny into saying something. But he kind of spoke for everybody because Jason gets drunk and acts like an idiot and yells at women all the time on this show.

19:50We've seen it multiple times. So he's not really off scot-free either. that was my favorite thing when he said that

19:56Ben Mandelker: I think we all have a drinking problem and how upset so many people got like what what you're saying that I have a drinking problem seriously seriously yes Kristen you have a fucking drinking problem and I can't wait till next year till you've dropped that baby and you can get back to being your normal self because the St. Kristen thing is out of control at this point it's time for a commercial it's time for a Crappins commercial this episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy. Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess.

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22:24That's quince.com slash crappins. So he's like, do you think you have a drinking problem? Danny's like, well, I haven't had a drink in a few weeks, which is a problem. I can say that. That's been rough. And Jason's like, well, everybody on this stage has issues with alcohol, to be honest with you. And they're like, what? And Jax goes, huh? Jax is the most shocked. He's like, well, why am I the only one getting shit? So, yeah, and Kristen's all offended, like you said. And the fact that you won't admit that you have any issues with it. So Danny's like, okay, so do you have a drinking problem? And he's like, well, it's a battle for me, you know, because if I'm going to choose to drink, it's something that every time I have to think about it.

23:11Ben Mandelker: But seriously, you can't say everyone on this stage has a problem with alcohol. What about Nia? Don't say something bad about Nia. That's just like a bold ass statement to make about everybody. So Jason's like, well, I mean, I guess I've never hung out with Andy. And they all laugh. It's like, you know, I just, I don't want to get all worked up. Like, I know I think they'll like, like make this a thing. Cause like, you know, there are good people. Like Danny and Nia are good people. Despite the fact that he's. Oh yeah. They're good people when they're sober. They're good people when they're sober.

23:41Ben Mandelker: like they have a beautiful family they have a big but you just called me a clown clowns aren't beautiful how could you say such a thing uh and jesse's like yeah you should apologize for calling him a clown i really like jesse caping and he's like no he's a clown i mean look at the guy so jason can't really make up his mind what he's trying to do today you know he's a flip-flopper and so danny's like well you're just name calling now clown you call me a clown is that worse than calling somebody daddy i mean really so jason's like okay you're right you're you're right i shouldn't call you a clown that was immature uh so britney's like wait wait i can say none of us think that you're like a bad person i just think it was these certain incidences that you acted just out of your character that's all that's all all right i'm bored rumors about jason ditching his wedding band was one ring toss game that Janet refused to play.

24:40Ben Mandelker: In case you don't get that joke, Janet loves Dave and Buster's. What a personality. What a personality. Jasmine, Jason thinks you made up the ring rumor. How did you feel accused of this by someone you were such pals with? So Jasmine's like, I was just hurt that the fact that you thought I would really go out of my way to make up a rumor about you taking off your ring. First of all, that's the worst whack rumor I've ever heard in my life. Are you kidding me? That is so whack. On the scale of zero to whack, that is the most whack. It's whack times five. I mean, give me more respect. If there was a mole, he would be whacked right now.

25:16I'm telling you that. He would win at David Buster's because that was whack whack. That was whack. If I were to release a one-hit wonder song - No one believes that. So obviously it's a whack rumor.

25:28Ben Mandelker: It was very whack. It was 100 % whack. return of the whack so christen's like what'd you say whack in the beanstalk that was like like throw your magic beans on the ground climb up climb up a fucking rope because i want my baby whack baby whack baby whack baby whack hi don't talk about hooters competition in here it's too soon so uh christen's like yeah i could do way better than that so uh jasmine's like, yeah, maybe it was my fault for speaking on it when I was in frustration with Janet. But I didn't make that shit up, and I didn't lie. Okay? I didn't lie. So, okay. Well, weeks after it was put to bed, Janet, you went to get ring tattoos to debunk a rumor that you said you didn't care about.

26:16I love that Andy hates Janet. Yeah, he really does. So wait, I'm just going through my cards of your quote-unquote storyline, and you were over something for three weeks and then got ring tattoos.

26:30Ben Mandelker: Well, funny story. It really, it was not necessarily to debunk. It was like, once this is out, it just feels like a can of worms that you just can't put it back. I was like, you can literally put worms back into a can. Yeah. Worms go back in cans. Worms are like, they get in there. It's the toothpaste that you have to have. You can't put worms in a toothpaste tub. You can't do that. You can't do that. You know, and I've been telling Jason, Jason has never had a tattooed before this. And I, I wanted him to get one. And I felt like kind of it was a fun excuse to like make light of it because like we, you know, make fun of ourselves in the situation.

27:03Ben Mandelker: We're very relatable people that America should love. And I've always kind of wanted a wedding band tattoo because that always works out well for people. And I thought it was cool. And so we just had a day of it. That's all. I wish they had showed us a clip of the scene because I love her rewriting this into, oh, yeah, you know, it was just a fun excuse to, you know, make light of it. Just have fun. Just a fun scene. Me and Jason getting it. It was hilarious. Jason, you're sure you're getting this tattoo? This means so much to me because I'm like so insecure about people. Replay the scene. This was not a fun light scene, Janet.

27:37So, Zach, you said it was comical that Janet and Jason laughed off the ring boomer at the shark party. God, I love that sentence. But later made a big deal of it. Why do you think they did that? He's like, I mean, they were like, oh, I guess that's our storyline. So, that's what they did. I mean, no storyline about an espresso pod for them. I have a really great an espresso pod holder, by the way. It's going to be featured heavily in season three.

28:04Ben Mandelker: Well, at first I'm like laughing it off because I know this is not true, but it also made me realize our friendship is not getting to a better place. So like, that's not going to help us get to a peaceful place this summer. And I was like bummed about that. And also as a joke and that like Jason and I have like a pretty calm, boring marriage that, you know, and in that sense. And so, like, I really don't know why America hates us. I mean, we're just two boring people just doing boring things, you know, accusing people of sexual assault and playing games and, you know, trying to avoid that low hanging hood in our kitchen.

28:36Ben Mandelker: That's it. Really just simple people. The truest thing Janet has ever said on this show is Jason and I have a pretty calm, boring marriage. So Kristen's like, oh, now you're relevant. Now you're relevant. You did it, Janet. it and then how she relevant by the rings the ring tattoo i didn't understand that logic but uh well you know kristin do do you owe kristin an apology for making you relevant good kristin john's like no i mean this is this is out there publicly people are going to be questioning his character you have to own up to that you have to own up to that i mean even the the drug addicted sex assaulter next to you probably agrees with that.

29:18Reputation is very, very important.

29:21Ben Mandelker: People don't care. The only people who perpetuated it all summer long was you too. And Luke's like, yeah, no one talks about this. I mean, I don't mean this in an asshole way, but it's literally you're not important for fans to care that much about. Okay. But after the shark party, when you both laughed and I looked right at you and I said, I was just being an asshole. You hurt my friends. I came after you. I said that to your face. Jason, you can roll your eyes. I'm being honest. Caw-caw. Yeah, because Jason's activated over there. Everything, Jason is so pissed off at this point. He's just rolling his eyes and like grabbing Janet's hand and then un-grabbing it and then grabbing it and un-grabbing it and just like shifting around on the couch because they're losing this so bad.

30:04And I love the, you're not important enough to care. It's like a very Stassi, you know, very Lisa to Stassi lie. I'm like, you're not important enough to hate. So Jason's like, oh, we hurt your friends? What are you talking about? We hurt your friends. And Danny's like, what are you talking about? You forgot the whole storyline. Come on. He goes, oh, yeah, we're not going to get into that. Well, you're asking. That's what she's talking about. So Janet is like, oh, of course, the ass grabber's laughing. Of course he is. Of course he is. That's what ass grabbing people do. They laugh. They're just laughers.

30:37Ben Mandelker: Laughing and laughing and laughing. I told you to your face. I was just trying to be a bitch. I mean, come on. And so Jason's like, why are we not allowed to be mad about you being a bitch? Which is a fair point. So Kristen's like, it's not that you're not allowed to be mad, but you guys would not shut the fuck up about it the whole summer. Yeah, I mean, their point is nobody cared about the ring thing. It was like a stupid thing Kristen said when she was mad. And the only reason it became a thing is because Janet made it into a storyline. Because at first, Janet just laughed it off. Like, well, everyone knows that's not true, Kristen.

31:08which was actually a very smart move and it deflated Kristen's whole thing. I mean, even us watching the show, we were like, yeah, that was lame by Kristen because they had like a three-week thing where they were like, Kristen is going to say this thing. And she finally said it and we're like, like, that's stupid. And Janet laughed it off and it was like, well played. That was a well played she got out of me, which is rare to get something out of me for Janet. But she got that out of me and then she just decided, well, I guess we need something to do. let's be pissed off about this thing. And they just have egg on their face.

31:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, Jason's saying that actually, really who he was more upset with was Jasmine over the whole thing because, you know, her being the source that, you know, they had a great relationship. So that's why they got mad because it was Jasmine. And Kristen's like, but you guys say I make shit up though. She goes, well, I don't know. I mean, I know, but we weren't going after you. Like during the whole season, we weren't going after you. And she's like, oh, I watched the show, Jason. I watched it. He's like, so did I. Kristen's like, you called me a liar. You said my reputation and shit like that.

32:09Ben Mandelker: I do not have a reputation of making things up or being a liar. Like, well, Kristen, I mean, I don't know so much about that one. Your whole first season was about lying about fucking Jax. Like your whole, your whole beginning of this show is about you lying. So do you remember why you were fired from Vanderpilt Rules? Remember, girl, you gotta have faith, faith, faith. Oh, you've got to have faith, faith, faith. But I love, I love sanctimonious Kristen. Like, I love that. She's like, I am known for being truthful. I am known for finding shit out. She's like a passion of, of, of the truth out there.

32:49Well, Kristen is detective Dodie. You know, I guess that would be, that's what she's referring to is like her reputation is detective Dodie and like bringing Miami girl in town, you know, shit like that.

33:02Ben Mandelker: I like, I like, but also, yeah, nevermind. And I was just, yeah, Kristen, I just, I love how annoyed she is in this episode. So she's like, yeah, I have a reputation for uncovering the truth and not exaggerating. Everyone knows that I never exaggerate. Everyone from the most random person, the middle of Nebraska, to all the people at the G4 summit, they all know I do not exaggerate. Unborn babies know. If you ask nine out of 10 bunny rabbits, they would tell you, I'm not known for exaggerating. I was watching Alien Earth, and all those xenomorphs arrived, and they said, guess what? We're here to find Chris and Dodie, because we hear, she does not exaggerate.

33:46So, Andy is skeptical. Andy's like, oh, is that your reputation? She's like, yes. Uncovering the truth, and inserting myself in places that are none of my business. not being a liar, not exaggerating, not my reputation. Okay, well, Jasmine, at the beach, you screamed at Janet saying she was a shit-ass friend, she's a vibe killer, and she gives Karen energy. What did Janet do that made you so mad? Other than being a shit-ass friend, being a vibe killer, and giving Karen energy? I mean, you just listed three pretty good ones. Yeah, that feels great. How many more do I need?

34:23Ben Mandelker: She's like, well, I wanted to talk to Jason, and as I'm talking to Jason, And Janet is just spitting at me. She's like, you're a snake. You're a liar. You're whack. And Jason's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That didn't happen. And she goes, snake. You go, snake. You said snake. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And Janet's like, um, if they had that footage, they should roll it because I do not remember saying that. No, you did. You said you're a whack snake. And Janet, you were just like crossing your arms in this whack way. And you were just like, snake, liar, whack, whack snake, whack liar.

34:53Ben Mandelker: And you were just standing there. And you were like this, snake, liar, snake, snake, liar yeah you were like you know what if you were chips i would order some whack-a-mole because that's how whack of a snake you are okay you said it janet i remember and when she said that i was like no she didn't i mean jasmine is notoriously terrible at this and she's also a horrible flip-flopper like jasmine not janet jasmine jasmine's story changes all the time she flip-flops on people constantly she's anti one person to janet and then totally going and acting like she's been on that person's side the whole time.

35:27I mean, Jasmine, she's bad at this game. And she's full of shit, too. Or she just remembers things completely wrong. But yeah, even this part, I have to stick up for Janet. Because, wow, this is not true at all.

35:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I mean, Janet was interrupting and getting in the way. But she was not the one saying Snake. It was actually Jason. The answer should have been, I'm trying to talk to my friend, Jason. And you kept interjecting with your little Karen. And I'm not trying to talk to you. And I lost my temper at you. That's what happened. But instead, she's like, and you sat there and crossed your arms and called me a snake over and over. It's like, no. Oh, it didn't. Don't make me stand up for Janet. That's the worst thing you could have done, Jasmine. Now I'm just disappointed. So we see the flashback. You're giving Karen energy.

36:17Ben Mandelker: And Jasmine's like, anyway, you wouldn't let me speak in that moment. And I was just like, let me speak to Jason. explains him this situation, this wax situation. Alright, Jason, were you surprised to see Jasmine get upset like that? And he's like, I mean, I think my face in that scene showed I was shocked by that. Remember how I cried? That was really great, right? Do you feel like, uh, by the way, Jasmine, do you feel like you were manipulated at all? This is a lawyer, Jason, about to make a very good point. And she's like, um, manipulated was like, yeah, did you feel manipulated by somebody?

36:48She's, she probably feels manipulated right now. You're literally trying to manipulate her right now to saying she feels manipulated sir she's like um

36:56Ben Mandelker: and zach's by who me is it me did i do the manipulation and luke is like kristin just wait your turn be quiet did you just tell me to shush i told you that was so funny just stop it babe stop it so jasmine's like i don't think i was manipulated are you sure Are you sure you didn't feel manipulated, Jason? Okay. I don't know a lot about Jason, except I hate him on this show. And B, he's probably a terrible lawyer because he's just, he's so ham-fisted with this. This is hard to watch. She's like, no, I haven't been manipulated. No. Show me on the doll where you were manipulated.

37:38Ben Mandelker: Andy's like, you're taking Kristen? Kristen Doty over there manipulated someone? Jason's like, I watched the show. you know it looked to me like Kristen doesn't like Janet so she's talking to people and she's taking people she's talking to people and saying this is Janet this is Janet this is Janet and Janet was a scapegoat for everyone I mean look you can't even accuse someone of sexual assault anymore I mean this is scapegoat behavior right now and Kristen's like what show did you watch and Darren's like I know well you watched as her husband that's the show she watched okay and Kristen's like I swear to god what the fuck were you watching yeah what were you watching Janet is literally behind everything on this season.

38:17The only reason people talked about Janet is because she was spreading shit all season.

38:22Ben Mandelker: And actually, for the first portion of the season, Janet was fairly out of harm's way. I mean, she entered the season with a beef with Zach, with a beef with Kristen. She settled things with Zach and didn't quite settle things with Kristen. And it really went sour for her when at that one dinner at Brittany's house where Janet said to Nia, hey, if Danny is seeing babies on the ceiling, I have someone that you could talk to about that. And then all of a sudden, like World War III broke out. But I don't think that Kristen was manipulating. I think Kristen was just reacting to what she felt was an unfair characterization of Danny.

39:04Ben Mandelker: Whether it was or not, that's a whole other issue. And who cares? But I don't think that Kristen was... I don't think Kristen has manipulation in her. uh she may try but i think everyone would see it coming 10 miles away like she'll be like hey yeah she's not i heard i mean i heard you should hate janet okay start like that's what'd be her manipulation yeah so um andy asks jasmine where her relationship with janet stands so she's like oh listen look you know i've been friends with her like for so long like me and janet like we're so tight like we've been friends forever you know and it's like with siblings you know we're like family because like, you know, when you fight with your family, like how it's like whack.

39:43So we do that. But like, you know, like it's what we do. Like I fight with Zach all the fucking time. But like, you know, I was there was never like I hate Janet kind of thing, you know, like that kind of thing. It was just like you're a bitch and you're Karen, you know, like it's different. But like there's like layers of stuff because like, you know, like our friendship hasn't been the same. Like we just don't talk, you know, like and it hurts. But like, I mean, I don't hate you. I don't like I mean, but like there's like love there, you know, like Melissa made a good point. She was like, you guys are crying.

40:08and like I was crying in my house and she was crying in her house and Melissa was like, oh my God, that means you love each other because you're both crying, you know? So like maybe that's good. Is that love really? When you're in a friendship where you both made each other cry multiple times and you're sitting in your ball pit, I don't think so. Sitting in your home baby ball pit, I don't know that that's a good friendship.

40:30Ben Mandelker: Maybe evidence of like a brain injury after bonking that low hanging hood in your kitchen. So Kristen's like, well, there is love, but there's also shit talking jasmine come on we have a group talk where you talk where you shit talk you do it she's like no i get that i get that and you know i get upset with her and there's things that we need to talk about like you know all the whack stuff she's done and kristin's like so like you have to be fair about that still be angry at her stop being nice it is kind of funny here she is again jasmine refusing to say what she's saying in the group chat to janet's face here she lost she got pissed off at the beach and she called her the karen and all of that but other than that she won't stand up to her yeah well i mean because maybe she is trying to salvage it and maybe she doesn't want to rehash that because maybe the things that she wrote she was angry about or maybe jasmine herself is two-faced um and it is that's my that's my could be all could be all the above quite frankly especially i mean at least say it out loud if kristin's literally telling you on the stage i mean you say this and that about janet just be honest and she's like oh no no but you know like ultimately i love her well what was it what are you saying flip flopper well to be fair all these people are terrible friends to each other I mean let's not forget this is an outgrowth of Vanderpump Rules the lazy Susan of awfulness where they all were duplicitous about each other and they all got into savage vicious fights and then they become friends again like the next season true and I'm calling them out each individually as their turn comes up as you should right now it's Jasmine's turn to be called a fucking flip flopper take a stand flip flopper Commercials.

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43:44Ben Mandelker: Jasmine's like, it was just like a buildup of whack things, that's all. And Kristen's like, but you said, Jada, stop acting like herself. She's like, yes. So Jason's like, no, don't say that. That's not true. And she goes, well, and I let a lot of whack things brush under the whack rug. I mean, I had the wackest rug of all time, and I still was able to fit more whack things under it because I was brushing so hard. With a very whack brush, I'd like to add. Yeah, and Jasmine's like, I mean, I should have talked to you, but, like, I didn't talk to you because, like, you know, at the time, I just felt like, what's the point?

44:11You know, because I had a group chat. So, and he's like, okay, well, who here thinks Janet is a Karen? And I swear to you, everyone in my house raised their hand. I mean it was just me and Bueller but still that was two hands

44:25Ben Mandelker: no one raised their hand I was shocked and Chris was like well she said Karen Heddergy she didn't say she is a Karen because as we all know her name is Janet so you really can't call someone a Karen if they're not really named Karen right Janet's like go ahead raise your hands I'm on hold with the police right now I'm on hold with the police I like to call the manager of this reunion okay I do not like the way I'm being treated so Jasmine says I didn't call her a Karen it was just the energy she was giving and I think it was a lot more of like exhausted of you like Zach's stuff and like Kristen and like just hearing things and it just maybe would have maybe come back to you and been like hey this is how I feel and I didn't and like I just I don't know I don't even know what I'm really saying I think I'm just at this point taking random phrases and mashing them together into like a little monologue I don't know well it's Clear that you all care about each other.

45:22Clear to who? I'm not really sure, but it's on my cards. So waste him now. That's what Randy says when he wants to move on.

45:27Ben Mandelker: He's like, let me put a bow on this. You guys are nowhere close to resolution, but I'm going to force, I'm going to sort of announce a resolution. You guys care about each other. Okay, I'm bored. Moving on. Jenna's like, yeah, I mean, I don't hate you guys. Hold on, let me try to cry. Let me get some Jack's tears. Like, I don't hate you guys. because like you're the friends that would come over and like sweatpants and like play games and cook like you guys would watch me microwave corn tortillas with cheese and cream while we played monopoly all the time you know and i really miss you guys i really miss you saying is this supposed to be a chip because it's soggy and then me having to explain to you what it really was yeah and the relationship it's just it's not like how it used to be it's just more like before it was like crack and now it's like whack and like let's just keep that real like a hundred like you know like maybe like one day i don't know i don't know jason's like i would hope so and i think we all feel that way so you know and he's like okay back to drug addiction okay after a 30-day stint in whatever we're calling it probably a mcdonald's drive-thru jack's left the um mental health treatment facility with a big mac and a large coke zero and seemed intent on picking up right where he left off holding a 99 cent supersized french fry.

46:51Okay, now Jacks, the night before you return home, some of your friends rebranded your bar Brit's Bar. You were upset, right? Well, I mean, like, it's not England, so...

47:06Ben Mandelker: I mean, who wouldn't be upset? I mean, we're in America. I understand why they did it, but like, taking my signs and throwing it in the garbage was a little much, you know. I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a little much throwing a coffee table at your wife and barstools too, etc. And then throwing a picture of her and her dad out in the trash. And he was like, ah, it's a different situation. It's like, but that wasn't my party or your party. It's like, no, it was Brit's bar. And it was whenever me and Jasmine went to talk to Schwartz and I was telling them everything you had just done. It wasn't Brit's bar I meant to cite.

47:40Ben Mandelker: Jack's like, but I wasn't there for that. No, you weren't there for any of that. Okay. Jax. He's like, yeah, I don't remember. I wasn't there. I missed that day. Yeah, Jax, you were in rehab, dummy. So, um, Jax is like, yeah, you know, like, it was just like, it was like really hurtful. It was just like, it was just really hurtful. You know? Poor Jax. Poor Jax. Why are we hurting Jax? Andy's like, Jax, you know, they were just trying to prop her up. That's what cocaine is for, Andy. No, it's fine. I understand. I understand. It was all very positive, JayX. It was very, very positive. And he's like, well maybe - I understand, but it was so hurtful.

48:21It was very hurtful. And Kristen's like, the bar never got to be about her. And she worked so hard and she put money into it. More than you. I put more money into it than you. That's for sure.

48:32Ben Mandelker: You know what? Even when you were in rehab, I was keeping that place afloat. So, and he's like, Zach, you're still here, right? Are you allowed into Jax's bar? And Jax says, no. And Jack's like, um, it's really funny that Jack has such this animosity towards just me and can forgive everybody else But like what I want to say is I used to be the biggest Jack's apologist I was there every single time when like she was broken down Brittany was broken down and I had to pick her up Or when he would break down and I would hold him while he cried and for him to turn so hard on her and me just out of nowhere Is like so rude I need a painting in my home of Zack cradling Jax as he cries

49:22And Jax is like I mean, it's the stuff you say on social media, you know Like what do you want me to do about it? We what am I supposed to do and then we see a screenshot of Zack's post Riddle me both. How's it possible? You come out of rehab a worse person than when you went in. That was a good one. That was a good one you guys

49:41Ben Mandelker: again, Jax is more upset about a stupid tweet than he is about his own behavior, it seems like. So Zach is like, um, okay, yeah, like the things I say on social media, excuse me, are literally not even remotely close to what I would say about you, like right now to your face, if Andy ever asked me a question, which he doesn't. Zach. Zach's like, I could have been worse, like I am to your face. So that's like being nice on social media. I can't believe he won't talk to me. And Jack's like, I don't care. You're nobody to me. You're nobody. He's like, well, actually, I miss our friendship. I just want you to be a better person.

50:18He's like, I don't really care what you want.

50:22Ben Mandelker: And you want to prove that you don't have this control issue, that you can make it better? Then work on it with people that are in our life, that are in our life, in her life, okay? He's like, no, I agree. I agree. I agree. He's like, no. Jack hates Zach. Mainly, I do believe some of it is, or a large part of it is because Zach is gay. I will say that I pick up so much homophobic, like the dismissiveness to Zach, I think is to me, I'm getting homophobic vibes. I really do. And not that Zach is like a saint over there, but there, Jax treats Zach differently than everyone else. So I am like, fuck Jax on a whole nother level.

51:00Ben Mandelker: It's just amazing how many levels that we can say fuck Jax about. So Andy is like, well, Zach's also standing up and I'm not even saying that's wrong. I mean, obviously, you know, I think I would agree with that, but Jax is all you've got Zach standing up for Brittany all the time so that's enough you know Jax is like fuck that guy yeah but with other people who stand up for Brittany he Jax pretend like at least pretends to be like no no I get it I get it no she deserves everything in the world no no I was bad how's a bad bad bad husband like you're right you had to defend her because she was in a terrible place he comes up all this bullshit but then when Zach is like I don't care about you you're no one to me there's just kind of like this like maybe I'm projecting onto it but I I definitely get high school bully, beating down on the gay kid.

51:42Ben Mandelker: So Andy is like, hey, is Frank Drummond allowed in your bar? And they're like, ha ha. And Jack's like, who? And Zach's like, have you even seen any of the episodes? Did you know? Did you know we talked about it on the show? We talked about it on the show. Yeah, he don't even watch the show. He doesn't got it. He doesn't got it. He doesn't got it. yeah we've all seen the show well he's the only person here who hasn't watched the show so he doesn't know what we're talking about and he's like oh oh my burner account yeah is that what you mean yeah that and he's like who's Frank Dremond and he's like Frank Dremond from The Naked Gun and he's like okay and who is Frank Dremond and Jax is like it's my burner account and by the way this drove me nuts I was really glad that Seth Rogen called this out although I think we called it out too and especially I'm sure all of America called it out now because The Naked Gun is literally back in theaters.

52:41Ben Mandelker: But it's Frank Drebin, you idiot. You didn't even get your burner name right. I love that he was arguing about it. He's like, you've never even seen The Naked Gun? Come on, bro. Have you seen The Naked Gun, Jax? I hate that. Naked Gun is one of my favorite movies of all time. And I hate that Jax is even putting his paws on it in a Finsta account. Yeah. Well, listen to some of these tweets. Legend, Jax is on the show. What man wouldn't feel that way about himself? He's a legend. That was hilarious. And then you DM'd me on accident from the account, so it was like proof that it was yours. I mean, you are so dumb.

53:18Ben Mandelker: Janet's like, I mean, come on. Don't you know if you have a burner? Like, you just look, right? And Andy's like, are you still commenting as Frank Dremmen? He's like, nah, nah. I haven't used that account. I mean, but it's Dremmen. It's Dremmen. You know, it's Leslie Nielsen with a little naked gun. And he's like, oh, my God. Janet's like, don't butcher his burner name. So they're just shitting on him. Okay, Jax. And Janet makes a comment. Janet makes a comment. She's like, well, come on, Jax. You should know if it's your burner account. You just read. You don't comment. Mm-hmm. Okay. Wait. No, isn't a burner account the point that you comment with it?

53:56Ben Mandelker: Because you can't comment on your real name? Yeah. She's saying if you don't want to get caught, you just read. Uh, so then, um, we see a flashback of his eBay listings of selling Brittany's, um, Jenny Craig bags, which is so sad. And it's, it's sadder than it seemed. Uh, and Jax is like, well, you know, I sell a bunch of stuff on eBay. You know, I sell a bunch of stuff. I mean, you can see for the bunny to buy toe. Like I worked very hard at it in that picture. Cause you see the Jenny Craig bag and then his bunion next to it. His, the telltale bunion. It could have been Ashley Darby. So Andy is like, all right, Kristen, Jack's decided to come to Benji's welcome home party, even though he wasn't invited.

54:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, pulled a doherty, right? Everyone knows. All right, show up places uninvited. Everyone knows this. So Andy's like, well, you had a conversation with Zach where you said it was your show. And we see that amazing scene where Jack says, it's my show. and Zach is like, not for the last 30 days it wasn't, bitch. I mean, wasn't telling Lisa Vanderpump that Vanderpump Rules was your show in season eight, kind of the beginning of the end for you? He's like, yeah, probably, whatever. So we see that. And then Andy's like, okay, raise your hand if Jax has referred to this show as his show. And they're all raising their hands.

55:22And it's like, yeah, we're just all lucky to be here.

55:24Ben Mandelker: Really? we are all we are we're just we're just we're just lucky so well it's true i mean none of this would have happened if i didn't start this up and then he's like is this jack's show everybody and everyone's like no i'm like hey hey he was gone for 30 days and nobody missed him and danny's like well you said you fired everyone from season one because you didn't like the edit and they just they're just all laughing in jack's face yeah so then uh historically speaking it's very difficult to surprise Kristen Doty. So, how'd you do it guys? I mean, when did you know, Luke, that Kristen was the one?

56:01And he's like, uh, well, it was a road trip, and like, we had 5 ,000 miles in the car with dogs, and it was like, hellish, and like, you know, we were great, you know? Like, we agreed on the same books on tape from the Cracker Barrel that we just ended up, you know, leaving at 7-Elevens all over the country and ended up getting charged$75 each. God. Really expensive for a book on tape. Did you know most cars don't come with tape recorders or tape players anymore? That was pretty disappointing. God, I really wanted to know. Next, Danielle Steele had to say.

56:33Ben Mandelker: All right, and you had not watched Vanderbilt Rules, right? He's like, no, I mean, for the podcast, we recapped season one. Other than that, no. Yeah, they were already together at that point. And thanks for the color commentary, Brittany. Chris was like, yeah, he was like, I can't do this anymore. and Andy's like yeah I bet because we all saw you yeah I bet I like that Luke is the typical husband of a Bravo watcher he's like okay yeah sure I'll watch Vanderpump Rules and no I will not watch any of this anymore I'm done okay do you want to get a fucking divorce hello there this is a two part recap okay this is the end of part one so thank you so much for listening to this just come back a little later for part two.

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59:17Ben Mandelker: Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Hail the cork master, the master of the cork, Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish, it's Jen Plish. She's not harsh, she's Jill Hirsch. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. We love him madly, it's Kyle Podchadly. In the study, with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock. G, it's Lisa H. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron. She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani The Incredible Edible Matthew Sisters She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose There's a Chance of Meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud Neat, it's Ronit Feldman She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke We Cannot Tell a Lie, it's Sarah Tell of Sun Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony Please don't stop, it's Soli and Pop Let's take off with Tam La Plaine It's always a good time when you're wasting time with Bravo She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar.

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