#2972 RHOM S7E11 Part One: Flamencos On The Side of My Face

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1:26Ronnie Karam: Well, hello everybody and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that is Ben. Hello, Ben. hi how are you good two nights in a row of me jam jams how you feel about it great so good i have

1:44Ben Mandelker: to say that um uh that that last night's episode what was really fun was that it was the first episode this season that's airing after orange county and so orange county's in new orleans this show is in spain it's like dual trips dual peak housewives and it was like really great because Orange County was such an amazing episode, but it was like an angry episode. Like they were all fighting and there's like, there's bitterness there. So it was fun. It's always great to go to Miami and they are always so silly and ridiculous and they have fights, but they're so, there's like, they're just petty and stupid.

2:17Ben Mandelker: It just felt like a nice like dessert. Like we had our main course and we had a dessert. It felt like a complete meal for me, you know?

2:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he had a little dulce, if you will. Dulce, as they would say in Spain. Yeah, this is a great show. I love it. We did record this on Friday. It is Friday right now. We're recording. You're probably hearing it on Monday or so because, you know, we're spreading out the letting it out. We don't have anything on Mondays right now. So this is going on our Monday. But last week, we put out an episode of Trailer Trash over on our Patreon, which is a preview of the trailer. That's a preview of the preview. It's a recap of the trailer for Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We've not recorded it yet, but we have by the time you're listening to this.

2:58Ronnie Karam: And let me tell you the hilarity. Okay. What a good time. I'm so glad that show is back. I cannot wait to talk about it again. This fall is looking up. Batch. So we're so grateful for that. So grateful for you guys for being here. If you want this on video, go watch it over on Patreon. And that's where you get all of our videos day after. If you don't want to pay, that is fine. You will see them a week later over on our YouTube channel for free. But they're a week later. And that does not include bonus episodes. Sorry. So everybody, thanks. And bonus episodes also are Patreon as well. Amazon Live is this Monday, 4 p.m.

3:36Ronnie Karam: Pacific time. That's where we sell stuff on Amazon, and it's ridiculous and fun. Join us for that. And thanks, everybody, for giving us this really fun life to lead because it's a long fucking day. We're not even halfway through our day, but we're laughing our asses off. So thank you. We love you guys.

3:52Ben Mandelker: Yeah, thank you for real. For real.

3:53Ronnie Karam: Okay, let's get into some midjam jams. Unfollow or Unfriend Season 7, Episode 11. We're in Sevilla, Seville, Seville, Spain.

4:07Ben Mandelker: Ceviche. And it's raining. Oh, well, look at the weather. I feel like I'm in Miami. Like, we brought the rain to Sevilla. And Marissa's like, wow, we brought the hurricane season. I wish, see, we're here to put some tape on this Radisson collection window. Am I right? I mean, what do you have to say about dinner the other night? By the way, this hotel was driving me nuts. all episode it's so small it's so small like are there no more are there like no glamorous hotels in in sevilla for these ladies i mean this is a real housewives show this is like a it's actually like a perfectly fine hotel for like normies but i just want for like a real housewives show like there should be like grand lobbies and like i don't know more than like two blank walls close to each other in their presidential suites.

4:53Ben Mandelker: It's driving me nuts.

4:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's a tiny little place. But you know, everywhere, it's not America. America like has big things for no reason, you know? Like the houses in Texas where I live, you've got these doors that are 20 feet tall. It's like, why do we need 20 foot tall doors in every house? And why are the ceilings like 50? Why do you live in the hottest place in the world and you can't cool your house down because the walls are cavernous? They're so high in every house. Why? Why are we doing this? And Sevilla, they're like, listen, This building has been here for 19 ,000 years. Okay. And now it's a Radisson.

5:28Ben Mandelker: That's it. This was formerly, this was once the house of the most important flamenco designer in all of Sevilla. And now it is part of the Radisson collection.

5:38Ronnie Karam: Did you guys ever know that polka dots were an accident, but now they're popular? I love that.

5:45Ben Mandelker: I love that too, actually.

5:47Ronnie Karam: I thought that was so cool. That's really cool. And I was like, I could be a fashion designer. Do you know how much shit I spill on myself at eating, like eating at lunch or dinner or whatever? I'm constantly getting splotches on myself. And I would love to just make that fashion. It's like, oh, there's some pizza on your pizza sauce on your shirt. Or is it high men's fashion in 2026?

6:08Ben Mandelker: Coming at you. Yeah, that was I feel like we could be real innovators in the flamenco space. Yeah. I just looked it up, by the way. I was like, you know what? but I'm worried that I'm taking this too much on face value from a random lady on TV. Is this really true that polka dots were just an error and they ran with it? And the answer is yes. That is what happened, because they had to use low-cost fabric. The originally OG flamenco people. So, yeah.

6:39Ronnie Karam: It's like when I show up places and people are like, did you get that on a fashion shoot? What are you wearing? You look fucking amazing. And I was like, it's Old Navy because I didn't have any money left over after mortgage. And also because it's my favorite store on the planet. I'm going to go to the app after this. I just want to announce this. Oh, that's fancy.

6:59Ben Mandelker: That's my old baby. Yeah, that's fancy. I'm going to step up because this little polo that I'm wearing here, I just... It's very cute. Thank you. Thank you. That's all I was. I was like, can I just want my polo to be acknowledged? It is really cute.

7:13Ronnie Karam: I'm surprised that I didn't say that earlier. I was thinking it when we were talking earlier. I was like, wow, what a cute polo.

7:19Ben Mandelker: Thank you. Well, the thing was that two weeks ago, I don't know why I'm telling this story now, but I'm in it. I'm in it. We're going through it now. Two weeks ago, I went to the Naked Gun. I took myself to the Grove. Ugh, disgusting. I went to the Grove to go see the Naked Gun, and I had time. I mean, the Grove is fun, but it's also annoying. And I had some time to kill, so I was like, well, you know what? Let's get a cocky and go to the Gap, although I didn't really have a cocky. But I went to the Gap and they had all these cute polo shirts and I've been wearing them and I'm feeling cute in them.

7:48Ben Mandelker: And I feel like I haven't. It's really cute. In a little while. So I'm going to go back and buy more polo shirts. Oh, I love it. So everyone get ready. It's my polo era.

7:57Ronnie Karam: Polo era. Yeah, that's pretty cute. I like it on you. It's very preppy. I like your preppy look. You've been upping your preppy ante lately and I think it's good on you.

8:06Ben Mandelker: You know what? I like a preppy. Preppy is like my native look. I'm from Westchester, New York. I'm from Westchester, New York. I went to school in New Hampshire. Preppy is like my true vibe. That's my true vibe. Yeah, babe.

8:17Ronnie Karam: Live it. I could go to a party.

8:19Ben Mandelker: I could teach Lisa Hoxstein a thing or two.

8:23Ronnie Karam: So they start, Alexa and Marisol start talking about what a mess last night was. And we see the clip of Alexia saying, who do you think you are? And Stephanie's saying, Stephanie Shajaji or whatever. She's like, oh, big shit. And I'm Alexia Napola, okay? Well, you said I had a big head. I'm Alexia. Back to the present. Stephanie is getting glam with Larsa. And she's like, bitch, why did you say I have a big head? I have a normal size head. Like, I really don't like this. Everybody talking about my big head now. Did you see the purses that my husband sent me to this presidential suite?

9:01Ben Mandelker: You have a large head. It's okay. The celebrities have large heads. Is she large headed?

9:06Ronnie Karam: I've noticed that she's large headed.

9:08Ben Mandelker: Like slightly large head. I don't think it's like massively large. but like a large head is enviable because all the celebrities have big heads like if you're a famous person you're usually a famous person partially because you have a very large head did you not

9:21Ronnie Karam: know what does that say no i didn't know that but i've got a humongous head and i'm not a that's why

9:26Ben Mandelker: ronnie that's why you're basically a star like that's why people love basically i'm a star you're basically like a star like alexia no it's for real like it's like when they there's like there was some study that like analyze all these famous people and like there was something about facial symmetry, but also having a large head. It photographs and it films very well. And people like it. And people, you see a large head, you just want to get an autograph, I guess.

9:51Ronnie Karam: Well, maybe eventually one day I'll become famous. I'll be an actor or something. You are famous. No, I'm not. I've always wanted to be an actor, so maybe I'll go try it at 50. Why not? I'll do an old person rewrite of my life.

10:03Ben Mandelker: You should. Well, you know what? What you miss, Ronnie, is that when you were on vacation, um eric williams was on uh the podcast and we're talking about he is adorable and if one should listen to it that's a gay-ass podcast but we were talking about like you know he's he comes from an acting background i don't come from an acting background but i do have a sag card that i've never used because i got grandfathered into it through some bureaucracy so i randomly have a sag card oh that's nice i have a sag face and i basically we both were like hey casting directors like just put us in a commercial we just want to be in a commercial and i think you need to join in on the blatant plea and say yeah i've got a big celebrity head i've got a celebrity ready head

10:43Ronnie Karam: put me into a commercial i have to giant head everybody come on put do it put me ronnie and

10:51Ben Mandelker: eric williams in commercials all in one commercial and separate ones mix and match do what you will but we know those casting producers out there and we just want to be in a commercial yeah i would

11:01Ronnie Karam: freaking love that. Okay, let's do it. But if there has to be one person, it should be Ronnie.

11:05Ben Mandelker: It should be Ronnie because this...

11:07Ronnie Karam: It's not Sophie's choice. Let's all do commercials. I would fucking love that. That's why I grew a mustache because people are like, you know, it's a different look. No, it's not why I grew one, but it's why I kept one because I got a mustache and then someone was like, oh, maybe you'll start working a lot now as an actor because you changed your look and that's what happens. Now, I've never auditioned for anything, but maybe just being in the Sprouts, people would be like, oh my God, who's that bald guy with a giant head and a mustache. Oh, yes, we're having a movie about the porn stash. Come on.

11:36Ronnie Karam: Get on board. Alright, so anyway, they're talking about big heads. I think Stephanie's head is not big. I don't think it looks too big. But I would say if she feels that it's too big, she should not do helmet hair on purpose. Because she's like doing that, like, you know, Mad Men kind of Jackie O helmet head thing and it's not doing you any favor if you're worried about that.

11:58Ben Mandelker: yeah fisher price like very fisher price it's like a it's like a plastic i used to have this one fisher price i mean i'm acting like it you're not gonna it's like the you know the blue that was like the lady with the blue she had like a dress so like her figure was like round it was for like curving and out a little bit and then she had blonde hair and she just had that look on her face you put her in the bus like that's kind of like her hair that's her vibe she is

12:20Ronnie Karam: a lego person on a bus hair so um we go back to alexi and marisol and marisol's like oh listen we're gonna make it work we need to know each other we just all need to get to know her more and that's really all it is i'm sure everything's gonna work out great back to lars and stephanie lars is like look like i feel like all i know today like i feel like it's gonna like be fun like because like i feel like i'm looking forward to getting a cute flamingo dress i love flamingo

12:50Ben Mandelker: i just want a dress that's pink and has feathers i can't wait for it i love that they invented flamingos in Sevilla. So then a night earlier, Marisol is telling us about that they're going to be going to this boutique. And I was waiting, but I just want to say right now, after Marisol made this big announcement at the table and they talked about appointments and putting Lisa in the late appointment, I thought for sure there was going to be some massive drama around this. I was imagining last year, The Real Housewives of Dubai, when Lisa Milan secured all those like local Indonesian dresses and they all had like breakdowns over it.

13:26Ben Mandelker: I was like, Oh, we're going to get that again. I'm looking forward to it. Never happened. And I'm a bit disappointed about that.

13:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, and understandably so. So, um, they're all getting ready for this flamenco thing basically. And remembering the past and Stephanie's like, okay, well, who's in our group? Cause they're splitting up cause it's housewives. And so the first group is going to be larza marisol and adriana and the other group gets lisa and larsa's like what did i treat like hate her i hate lisa like so like much like she's a terrible person she's such like a groupie like groupie like like larsa is um she's roiling over the fact that lisa

14:17Ben Mandelker: Sestel has not unfollowed Marcus Jordan and Larsa is saying, I love when Lisa says she needs to set boundaries with her friends. Meanwhile, she shows up like days later. It's like you set a boundary on like time or you need to. You need to set a boundary on being late so that way you can be on time. So yeah, showed her.

14:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah, this is very Larsa coded. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, she wants boundaries but then she's late.

14:46Ben Mandelker: I guess the idea is that like, I guess the idea is like, oh, you want to, you want your friends to show up and pull up and whatever. And yet you just show up late. Like you just don't even care about us. Like you want us to do things to acknowledge your feelings. And then you don't even show up on time. Like you you're late.

15:00Ronnie Karam: I don't care if my friends show up on time. I really don't. And if I'm like standing there waiting for them, but my friends know if they're more than 15 late, I'm doing whatever I was going to do without them. So if I go to a show and you're late and I got you a ticket and you don't show up for half an hour, you know, late, which has happened recently i don't get mad i just go into the show i'm not going to stand out in the

15:18Ben Mandelker: rain and wait for you but like you do you you know this is why i don't like going to um i i've stopped liking going to concerts with people i'm literally going to go to see dave matthew's band see i am in my prep era going to dave matthew's band next week alone because i'm like i don't want to coordinate about like when you're getting to my place and then we're going to drive down there maybe we'll meet someplace and i'll find you give you your ticket or we'll do this and me and then you wanna have a hot dog and then the show is starting but you're waiting in the Long Line because you wanna have a hot dog I don't wanna do any of that

15:50Ronnie Karam: Every time, every time somebody wants to go to the hot dog line! Oh my gosh...

15:55Ben Mandelker: And the show is about to begin I'm like I don't wanna...and it's like will you wait with me? I'm like no I will not wait with you I'm going to the seats and then you're there and like even though you're there your friends not there and you're thinking like well they're gonna be late and then they're gonna like walk in they're gonna have all their hot dogs and all their sodas and their chips and they're gonna make it'll just be a pain in the ass and then you're like trying to enjoy the song like you want some hot dog you're like no i just want to listen to the song

16:14Ronnie Karam: shut up yeah i'm here for dave matthews not your hot dog journey you late ass yes so one day earlier

16:21Ben Mandelker: listen to a 17 minute long jam okay yeah so we see all these clips of the ladies being annoyed

16:28Ronnie Karam: with lisa being late and stuff and um hotel magdalena plaza um they stephanie sees lisa It's like, I made it. How are you? You look so cute. And Stephanie's like, did you come by train for real? Like, is that something you really did? Is that something people do? Do you have a man that owns the train? Or was it like a public one that anybody could go on? That is so sad. That is so sad.

16:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, train, that's crazy. High like, high like, high like, high this and that, X, Y, Z. Oh my God, you made it. You made it. I guess with all that time on the train, you had time to unfollow Marcus Jordan by now, right? Like, we were worried about you, like.

17:14Ronnie Karam: It took, like, so much, like, time to keep following Marcus that you're late.

17:21Ben Mandelker: Well, I have legal matters that need my presence, number one. But you were just, like, in St. Bart's, like. Yeah, I was in St. Bart's. And I was elected as a judge, and I had to preside over some court cases there. So there were legal matters I had to deal with. And it was also a long weekend. And I was with some lawyers. And they were helping to represent me with the law things. St.

17:43Ronnie Karam: Bart's, where everybody goes to talk about legal cases. What is confusing here? And so we see a picture of Jodi and Lisa kissing in St. Bart's. And Larissa's like, wait, long St. Bart's, you like crack me up like with your lies like. And she goes, yeah, St. Bart's, any more questions? And sorry, objection. Because that's what you do in legal cases. Just like what legal cases does Lisa have that she can only solve it in St. Bart's? What's next? Doing your taxes in Bali? What's next? I feel like.

18:18Ben Mandelker: Like, what's next? Starting an LLC in the Philippines? What's next? Am I right? I'm on a roll. Let's do it. I'm on a roll. I've got a lot more in me.

18:32Ronnie Karam: what's next like getting her property taxes lowered while she's in thailand

18:37Ben Mandelker: like like what's like what's next like um getting uh temporary parking passes like when you're in turkmanistan like i'm out of places like i'm out of places in america i'm not surprised i knew about turkmanistan to be honest

18:58Ronnie Karam: Lisa's like me not making the flight got nothing to do with me being at St. Bart's okay I'm finalizing my divorce I was hit with a bunch of legal work signatures paperwork phone calls suntans pina coladas not exactly in that order okay life happens

19:16Ben Mandelker: what I'm gathering is that there was a long weekend and Lisa went to St. Bart's and then she got back from the long weekend so she had to do all this legal stuff before going on the trip right is that what there's that does that what it is i guess that's what she's saying yeah but like lawyers if you're a high profile case i think the lawyer will like be available on the weekends just just

19:36Ronnie Karam: gonna say that right now well and also we learned that she didn't do the paperwork and signatures because later she gets a call from the lawyer that says this is due in an hour it's like how could you tell me i've only got an hour i'm like they probably this is probably the stuff that you were supposed to do before you went on your long weekend lisa it's like it's probably the end of the timeline that you were supposed to get it in, you dummy. What?

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22:18Ben Mandelker: slash crappins so Lisa well anyway I'm here I'm here I'm still here so now Adriana and and Gertie join the ladies and um if everyone sort of gathers they're all saying good morning everyone's like oh you look colorful and everything and Marisol shows up last and Julia's like so we are going to do stephanie larsa lisa marisol adriana and goat you're gonna go shopping now then guarantee

22:46Ronnie Karam: i alexia kiki chicken go shopping later where's kiki and everyone looks around and kiki is missing but she's coming so everybody leaves what's that doesn't she doesn't kiki show up like a second later yeah i don't know but they're like we gotta wait for kiki oh alexia don't make me don't make going on with them. Go have fun. Go have fun with the normal people who are sad, sad people. Go have fun with non-stars. It's going to be okay for one day.

23:20Ben Mandelker: So, dress group number one goes to the dress place. They're leaving for that. And Adriana's like, oh, look how beautiful it is, you guys. Yeah, exactly. Wow. It's almost like God had a cocky and said, let's give some good weather to Sevilla, right?

23:35Ronnie Karam: Lisa's like, oh, maybe we should buy some walking shoes. And Larissa goes, maybe you should get a watch. She says, what? Yeah, like, we need to get you a great watch. Because I have one. I have money. And Larissa goes, oh, my God. Does it, like, have the right time-like? And Stephanie goes, oh, my God. It wasn't about money, Lisa. It's about you not being on time. Do you understand? It's like a joke. Like, she says something about a watch because you're late.

23:58Ben Mandelker: But, like, the watch works, though. No, I know. But the joke is that, like, you're running late. But, like, why would I get a new watch, though? because okay I'm not going to explain this to you

24:10Ronnie Karam: she goes oh my god look there's something in agenda right there let's get her an agenda she's like what what's that okay you know what let's just go to the fucking store Lisa

24:22Ben Mandelker: Lisa has her own version of improv where the tenets of it are yes huh

24:31Ben Mandelker: so

24:35Ben Mandelker: they they're riding along and kiki the other group that's not going to the dress store first is uh going to a market big night for markets on bravo market visits so they go and they look those vegetables and fruits and vegetables it looks great looks amazing actually yeah she goes

24:51Ronnie Karam: i love the fruits and vegetables in europe smells good okay well you know the american apples are holding their heads in shame i'm sure right now the stinky disgusting grape smell of america i mean it's fair is it yes no the produce everything is like the produce is always so

25:13Ben Mandelker: nice in europe it's really like oh look at me bonjour i am french produce and i am much nicer first of all it's lovely the apples all have little berets and um you know the oranges are kind of like they're just like full-figured and beautiful and they just sort of effortless they're

25:31Ronnie Karam: It's so small and like puny and like making an effort. Like in America, we have HGH. Like we have youth growth hormone vegetables. Like if you want an orange as big as your fucking head, come to America. Okay. I don't want to hear from your puny ass. Like no steroids injected, fruits and vegetables.

25:51Ben Mandelker: So they're walking around here. Kiki makes a joke about balls and everything. Meanwhile, Larsa's at the shop and she's like, where's she going? Marisol, all I know is that this place better have gorgeous dresses for us. Otherwise, I'm gonna need to get Lisa to get a new watch. I'm sorry, I didn't really know where to go with that one.

26:15Ronnie Karam: What is it like? Dressmaking in like New Zealand? I'm still workshopping that.

26:24Ben Mandelker: Lisa, Lisa, you should like the dressmaking because since you're moving a lot, it's like you're a dress making so think of you what address because you're in a new address yeah so you're like a dress making i didn't make the address i just moved to it it's it's like a

26:42Ronnie Karam: joke though lisa like i got money okay never mind never mind like so stephanie's like rocio como How's that? Que bueno verte. And she's like, muy bien. Venga. Oh, welcome. So they go in. And Marisol's like, well, before this trip to Spain, Stephanie posted on her Instagram story that it was for her birthday. So Julie and I have been doing, like, wizardly things behind the scenes. You know, she has a presidential suite, has a staircase. So we've taken out every other step, hoping that maybe she falls. There's a balcony. And so we've taken out all of the railings. so god who knows maybe it might be her visiting jesus again day you never really know what's

27:25Ben Mandelker: going to happen well this is a very famous flamenco designer shop that actually stephanie leaked that she loves uh so we're gonna get her a secret dress we just have to make sure they can make a flamenco version of a 1961 jackie o chanel suit i'm fingers crossed on that one

27:46Ronnie Karam: um so rosio's like we make them hand by hand or no we make them one by one and hand by hand so no two are identical everyone's like whoa that's amazing that's how many does faces but somehow

27:59Ben Mandelker: we all do end up looking kind of alike that's how larsa's boobs were formed no two are ever identical um so they're just like looking at they're looking at all these dresses they're super cool and everything and they're like there's we see the polka dots and everything and lisa's like rocio rocio what's the history of flamenco dresses the first time lisa has ever been inquisitive or curious about anything in the history of anything like literally 10 years later lisa's first question where she wants to know about something she's like so then the lady talks about like the history what we talked about before about how there was this one person would make all the fabric and then there was some printing error or whatever and they wound up with polka dot fabric and they went with it and then everyone was like, yay, polka dots.

28:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So everybody tries on these dresses and they're pretty and stuff and Mary's still like, oh my God, I want the white one. I want a wedding inspiration, a wedding inspired dress. I love getting married. Hey, honey, Steve, it's me. Yes, I am still wearing my widow's outfit. No offense, honey. Hey, you want to get married again? How about this time we have like a flamenco theme and we'll go to Plaza de España and we'll have another wedding there. Are you down? He's like, yeah, I guess I'm getting used to it now. I'll do whatever you need. Steve, you still with me? Hit yourself on the back, Steve.

29:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, sounds good. I'm getting used to it now, honey.

29:35Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. Wow. Steve is like Anthony Quinn Keeling over in the movie From 1967 am I right everyone So By the way how angry was Adriana that she did not get to tell the story about the Polka dots fun fact Polka dots were invented By gypsies In Sevilla

30:00Ronnie Karam: Boomy said yes Everybody we're getting married again So what happened I heard there was drama last night. And Lars is like, yeah, I like I got to go to dinner and Alexia and Stephanie got kind of loud. Nah, you and Alexia were loud. Come on, I don't believe it. So we see a flip to that. Ah, I'm Alexia! Ah, I'm Alexia!

30:25Ben Mandelker: So Stephanie is like, well, we hash it out, but you know, I'm also really taken aback yesterday when the whole thing ended and everything was fine. Oh, and I was like, you win, bro. No, even worse. Here's what I was really taken aback by. And we see a flashback of Marisol after their fight saying, every day of the week, I will bet on this fucking horse because she'll bury anyone. She's a really good fighter. She'll bury anyone. And so now Stephanie's like, that was like really mean. Okay, because no one's trying to bury anyone. Okay, no one, I wasn't trying to bury her. She wasn't trying to bury me.

30:57Ben Mandelker: None of us trying to bury anyone. So why do you keep saying that we're trying to bury people?

31:00Ronnie Karam: Well, I thought she did excellent. I'm sorry. I thought she did very well. You know, good fight. I was just saying, but she didn't bury me, okay? And I didn't bury her. We're not burying each other. Alright, well, you know, you put whatever you want on your ice cream. I really don't care for it. I like peanut butter plain. I don't need anything on it. Okay?

31:20Ben Mandelker: I love Marisol giving like a Cinescore to like the fight. Well, I ranked this. This movie was an A -. I would recommend it to anyone. You have four stars on Google, 20 and a half on Yelp. I didn't like the service,

31:33Ronnie Karam: but great fight overall guys yeah stephanie's like yeah i don't like it i don't like that you said i was buried and she's okay well god i'm glad you don't feel buried you know it's like if alexia's

31:45Ben Mandelker: eating uh chocolate chip ice cream marisol will be like i love chocolate chip ice cream too but then like when alexia's not around marisol would just be like oh no i don't really like chocolate chip ice cream i was like wow that was a thank you for illustrating all right chocolate chip ice from now.

31:59Ronnie Karam: But you do have her back almost to a fault, Marisol. She goes, alright, ladies, thank you for the advice, but right now, let's do some more shopping. Which was very skillful, I thought, because they were ready to have it out, and Marisol's like, no. You're very boring, non-friend people. I don't care.

32:17Ben Mandelker: Unfortunately, I can't fight with you because Alexia promised she'd buy me a bowl of chocolate chip ice cream later today, and I really don't want to miss that opportunity, so I'm just going to skedaddle out of this conversation.

32:27Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I'm done here. So now we go to the other women who are in the Mercado de Triana and Julia's like, all right, girls, are you ready to emerge into Sevilla? A little less culture of colors and tastes? Here we go.

32:43Ben Mandelker: Okay, so they walk around this market and everything and then Alexia's like, she's like, oh, look at those peppers. Those are like star peppers. Those are like Alexia peppers. Oh, beautiful. Like, mira que grande los pimientos aquí. And Julia's like, I love it. I just want to smell everything. And she's sticking her nose and stuff. So they're looking at stuff. It's like really nice. You know, I'm like super jealous because I want to be doing all this stuff as well. And then they sit down and then there's like Julia proposes that they get some oysters. And Alexia is like, oh, well, you know what?

33:16Ben Mandelker: Oh, you know what, Peter? The Spanish word for oyster is a euphemism for vulva because the Spanish love to relate their foods is with sex. So like Julia really likes vulva. I mean, I meant oysters. But of course that too. I mean, that was like a 40s. Like, as a star, I almost just said that Julia likes vova, which is hilarious. Isn't that hilarious, everyone?

33:34Ronnie Karam: That was like Freudian. That was like Freudian what just happened right now. So they get these oysters. They're gigantic. They are huge. They're huge. They're like fork and knife oysters. These are not oysters I would just swallow. That's a lot. Those oysters will become famous someday.

33:50Ben Mandelker: They have big heads. They'll be in a commercial.

33:53Ronnie Karam: They're like Mission Impossible level oysters are huge. so um they're they're like let's make kiki do it because kiki likes to have funny food scenes so kiki you do it and like look roast out and it'll be hilarious it's gonna be hilarious so kiki does it and she's like oh my god oh my god uh swallow it swallow it swallow it swallow please people are watching this is ridiculous like please don't give us any attention over here there's a lady swallowing a giant oyster she's never done it before everybody stop Stop looking over here, please. Please.

34:26Ben Mandelker: Okay, now Kiki, while you are doing this, I have projected several text messages up on the screens here to show everyone at the Mercado that you said in the past that you have liked oysters and now you haven't. So Kiki is like, she hates this. She's like, they found like some canister for her to like puke up the oyster in, et cetera. And they're like, wow, normally Kiki's really good at swallowing things, but she's not swallowing well today. I wonder if something's wrong with her.

34:55Ronnie Karam: to like enter the kiki drama moment we know although kiki did make a sexual joke so i was like maybe we're safe but she's like yeah normally i'm a good swallower but this was too big for me to swallow and like oh my god she's not making swallowing jokes by herself to us so something must be wrong with her and gertie's like uh what's going on here and uh they show a flashback to show

35:18Ben Mandelker: that kiki's just not herself and the flashback is they're they've arrived in seville and they're They're in the van. And Marisol goes, welcome to Sevilla. And Alexia goes, Sevilla's beautiful. And then Kiki goes, yeah. That's it. It's like, oh my God. She is not rhapsodizing about Sevilla.

35:37Ronnie Karam: So now they're all worried about her. They're talking about how they're worried. And Kiki's saying that she's getting back into her groove. She just needs to pass the storm. But she needs to leave the conversation alone because she's already scared. And they're like, what? What? Share what you want to share. You don't have to do anything. you don't want to do. Okay? Except swallow oysters. We made you do that. That's, you know, it's fair to say that. But from now on, you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Don't speak. She says, okay, I'll tell you. So she tells the story and she's saying there was a thing where a lot of Haitians and a lot of Mexicans and Guatemalans were coming over because Biden made it easy.

36:13Ronnie Karam: So there was a law, like, if you have family members in those countries, you don't have to go through the whole process. You can just do a paper. and if you can be the support system for your family, you can bring them over. So she thought, well, I have a good job and I should help as many people as I can. So she was bringing some cousins in that she knew had no hope. And it was five people, which is crazy. I mean, that's a lot to take on because you have to support these people, you know?

36:39Ben Mandelker: But she brings these cousins on, but then more and more family members are like, bring me, bring me, bring me, because things are dire in Haiti. and all these people want to like be she had to eventually say like no i can't do this anymore i can't keep i can't support all of you so she had to draw a line and then people were mad and she has some asshole cousin who's like i'm going to kill you like gave her a death threat she had to move it was so bad she actually had to move because of it and then her dad finally stepped in which i can't believe the dad took so long like it should have been right away the dad stepped in and so she's been like preoccupied with a lot of anxiety about this and she's only now starting to you know get things like you know get things like she's starting to like recover and it is what's funny about this this is not funny but what's funny is how like with Larsa and Lisa it's like why aren't you unfollow Marcus Jordan and meanwhile you have Kiki here dealing with like an international crisis a family crisis death threats murder things that like tie into like American policy and all that stuff And it's like, yeah, but Lisa's still following Marcus.

37:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, it's so crazy. And it's pretty amazing how Kiki stays so funny and so fun on this show. And she's got the most dire storylines every season. Really, if you think about it, the stuff she's talked about has been pretty serious. And she still bounces right back and can hang. And she doesn't get enough credit, Kiki.

38:13Ben Mandelker: I think on this show a hundred percent. I mean, she's really just, she's just like so great, like season after season. So she tells this whole story and it's like very sad. And, and then they're relating because, you know, like pretty much everyone on this cast is like either immigrant or first generation. And so they, they can relate to these sort of stories. And, you know, um, when Diallo was subbing in for you, he meant, he mentioned something about the show that has really stuck with me. that was so profound, which is that like, this is a show where almost for almost everyone on the cast, English is their second language.

38:48Ben Mandelker: And it is actually, if you think about that, that is such an amazing thing with this show. Like everyone in this cast has come from like a, like a different country or a different background. And I just think that is so fascinating. And so when you do see these, these stories bubble up on the show, I actually just, I actually just love it. Cause I just feel like it also reminds us that as like wacky and silly and effervescent as the show is, there's like a huge amount of there's a huge amount of like uh backstory to all these people and how they got here and given that everyone has backstory and i just feel like this is a unique like uh show in that it's like in in many ways not to get too like academic but like that it's really cool that is against the backdrop of of all these people you know having come from different places and walks of life and arriving here in miami yeah so they talk about the immigration policy and i mean yes i have nothing bad no yeah that's just my thought like it just makes i think about like i love that the show makes me think about this once in a while it's really cool yeah

39:49Ronnie Karam: um yeah where else do you see storylines like that like okay so i'm bringing in people and trying to help as many as i can and now they're threatening to murder me and i have to move my

39:58Ben Mandelker: house like what the fuck like what not happening on orange county yeah um so um definitely she's

40:06Ronnie Karam: She's starting to feel a little bit better. And her dad, you know, stepped in, like you said. And Alexi is like, you know, I know Kiki's a warrior. That's why she's my kind of friend. But you know what? I love that she's opening up and she's sharing this with us. We should make her eat another oyster immediately because that shit was funny. That shit was funny.

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41:37Ben Mandelker: Would now be a great time to mention the latest Todd-to-Tod news. Did you see Todd's video from today, this morning?

41:46Ronnie Karam: No, what is it?

41:48Ben Mandelker: well everyone if you were missing todd and his famous addresses to the camera to clear things up congratulations there's a new one in store for you i watched i think like two or three minutes of it and then i was like this should be wrapping up soon and i saw there was still like four or five i was like i can't do this but from what i saw this is what it was hello i am todd napola i am here to address everything. One of the worst things that I ever did in my entire life was participate in the Real Housewives of Miami. I thought it would be a fun thing to do and the woman that I love does it, but I realized these people just want to slander me.

42:31Ben Mandelker: Adriana, the producers, the castmates, all they want to do is take something and lie about it and turn it into a story at my expense. And I was okay with that. You know, I tried to do, I tried to participate bait in it but then all they would do was make up lies about me not having a lot of money well i just bought a shopping center for 16 million dollars does that sound like someone who doesn't have money to you anyway i had to come to the difficult decision to leave my beautiful and wonderful wife because i could not live with this show and she couldn't live without it so i had to make a difficult thing and that was fine i wasn't gonna say anything i was gonna let it go on the producers have to do this.

43:09Ben Mandelker: They have to make a story. I was okay with being the story, but what I was not okay with was when Peter went on TV and said I was bad to Frankie. Let me tell you something. There's only two people who have ever cared for Frankie, more than Frankie himself. Alexia and Frankie's biological father, who, by the way, does not get enough credit for doing all these things. He takes them out for baseball on the weekends, but outside of those two people, I have spent every single waking hour of the past seven years caring for frankie i love that boy i woke up and i wake up in the morning and have coffee and i talk with frankie at night i talk with frankie i talk with frankie at different times of the day i love that boy so for peter to even say something like that i just couldn't stand by any longer i had to set the record straight and i was like okay

43:56Ronnie Karam: oh my god that's exhausting is this all written down i don't know if it's if there's a transcript

44:03Ben Mandelker: I don't think there is.

44:04Ronnie Karam: So you were just making all that up from memory? I just made that up from memory. My God, that's a lie. Jesus Christ, Todd. Also, I love that Todd skirts around it and blames everybody else for starting these stories, but not Alexia. Alexia is the one coming onto TV sobbing and saying you're a narcissist and then throwing a narcissist party in your honor to talk about what a monster you are.

44:25Ben Mandelker: It was not. It was to celebrate Greek gods and goddesses and Australian influencers.

44:30Ronnie Karam: And saying, please, girls, don't let me get back with this man. in real matter, he's terrible, he's horrible. I mean, that's Alexia. And also it's funny that Alexia's calling him a narcissist over and over again when she wouldn't quit the show for love, which is kind of narcissistic. Although I would say, don't you dare quit the show for love. You know, get rid of that man. Don't you dare. Yeah, I think that was a smart, you should never give up your career for a man. I'm just saying because it was a, it's something about her being a star on TV that she chose the stardom over the band. But guess what?

45:01Ronnie Karam: You know what? you had to start him first the man came second so the man you're gonna come just how you came

45:06Ben Mandelker: chronologically second that's right todd that's right so that is the todd update that uh felt like a nice palate cleanser after kiki's uh death threats from haiti storyline um so now time to do uh well then we have another well we have a nice pivot here in the show because alexia is saying not only as Kiki's good friend, but as my parents coming here as immigrants, I can relate to her situation. And then Julia says, on that note, girls, we have a fitting to go to. I was like, on that note? On the note of their death threats against me from my own cousin? Well, on that note, let's go try on flamenco dresses.

45:47Ben Mandelker: I was like, sure, if that's going to be your transition, then by all means, transition away. Yeah.

45:56Ronnie Karam: So picture time. and Julia's like, are you going to post this picture on Instagram? Because you unfollowed me on Instagram. And Gertie's like, oh I don't even know why I would do that Come here, give me a hug, give me a hug Give me a deep, deep hug

46:11Ben Mandelker: And Alexia's like Oh, by the way, Lisa also needs to unfollow Marcus, by the way And we see flashbacks to Larsa talking about that and everything And so then more just like walking around the city having fun etc going down the cobblestone seat street and lisa is like god how are you walking in those stiletto heels on the cobblestone lara said didn't you get the memo god cobblestone i know how to walk like girl walk like walk baby girl like mary soul take us to get ice cream so that

46:46Ronnie Karam: possibly i can say you only ordered that kind of ice cream because alexia ordered that kind of ice cream so i can make my earlier statement make sense at an ice cream shop she's like all right I'll find some ice cream for you and a little beverage for moi. How do you say cocky in ice cream?

47:04Ben Mandelker: So they go and they get ice cream, which looks delicious. And then, of course, this is so funny.

47:10Ronnie Karam: So they walk into an ice cream store and Stephanie goes, which means do you have ice cream? Girl.

47:23Ben Mandelker: no this is where they sell buicks it's nothing but a glass case filled with ice cream like that seems like a larsa question quite frankly do you have ice cream like well maybe maybe she thought it was only gelato and she was like do you have ice cream no that's too much credit too much credit for her.

47:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah, maybe. So Larza gets a cone, an ice cream cone. She starts licking it. She's like, Marisa, does this look like I feel like sexual? Like, uh... Uh... Uh...

47:59Ben Mandelker: She starts filleting the ice cream.

48:02Ronnie Karam: She starts putting the ice cream between her toes and then deep through the cone. It's like, okay, Larza.

48:09Ben Mandelker: Wow, when I saw her licking that ice cream cone and I was like, wow, what's going on here? It's like Cary Grant with a cigar. Am I right, everyone? Oh, Lord.

48:23Ronnie Karam: Alright, we're going to go back to the hotel. Julia just set up something called spiritual flamenco, which should be interesting. Alright. It's basically you guys stomping on my head and calling it spiritualism. I'm assuming it's what this is going to be. Let's get to it.

48:40Ben Mandelker: They're like, we're supposed to wear something flowy or something. Flowy? I don't have anything flowy. You have nothing that's flowy. That's ridiculous. You're all fired. You can't fire us. You're not our boss. Okay. So then now the other group goes shopping for flamenco dresses. And it's just, you know, they're trying on different things. They all look cute and nice and pretty. And they're all enjoying it. And they're all saying, I like this one. I like that one and everything. And Julia's like, how good does it? Alexia, how good do you feel to be out of Miami in Sevilla? And Alexia's like, oh, so good.

49:14Ben Mandelker: When I travel, I disconnect. You know, I talked to Frankie and I like that. Like, I think like two times I talked to him and then, you know, texted with Todd and then we FaceTimed and then three of us Zoom together. And then we did another Zoom with Peter and then we did just with Peter and then Peter and Frankie together, then Frankie. And then I did like Todd. Todd, he went to Starbucks. So I Zoomed in with Todd on going to Starbucks. I just love being disconnected. It's so good.

49:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I even talked to Todd and actually he just like texted. Like, he's always text me, like, good morning, good morning. He's like, buenos dias, whatever. And it's like, it's so romantic. And it's like, so severely, this connects you with Todd? Oh, no, I've always been connected to Todd. You know what connects me to Todd? Todd. Okay, that's it. Like, that's it. But you're physically away from Miami, so you could feel him more or you could feel him less. So what is it you're physically now away from him? What do you feel now? She's like, I'm feeling him more, you know, because like, look, I'm wearing my ring again.

50:07Ronnie Karam: I'm wearing my ring again. It's like he's right here Like I wish I could be wearing his ring in front of Frankie because that would like make it more real but like yeah

50:16Ben Mandelker: Julia is like trying so hard like the whole point of this trip is to get Alexia away from America so that she'll like not think about Todd and Alexia's like I'm thinking about Todd more than ever before like god wow this trip has been so great to bring me closer to Todd Julia's like um

50:30Ronnie Karam: Let me tell you what I've got. I've got location turned off of my heart Okay? My heart doesn't... If you go and find my, it's not going to say my heart. Because there's no location.

50:40Ben Mandelker: Okay? Guess what? Even though I'm far from Todd, I stuck an air tag in his shoe. So I feel very close to him now.

50:50Ronnie Karam: So then the producer is asking her, why are you wearing your ring again? She goes, because I'm still married. Maybe that's why. Like, what a crazy question. That's like nuts. so um then we go back to larsa and uh stephanie lisa all the other girls inside and larsa's like oh my god like i just feel like alexia like she like does not like say anything about like todd like anymore like i feel like yeah well the last update i have was the night before the trip he took her to new york and they had a wonderful weekend so she was in new york with him like

51:24Ben Mandelker: yeah well she was with him she's happy she's good now it's like the honeymoon phase again like yeah, well, when she's not good, she's not easier to be around. It gets unpleasant, you know? Let's look at a clip package of her being unpleasant. Look at her. She was so unpleasant. Look, she's crying. Crying in front of the gays at the restaurant. You know what? It's just terrible. Lars is like, well, if Todd and Alexia get back together, like, you do realize, like, you lose Alexia, right, like?

51:53Ronnie Karam: Stop. Stop that. I'm saying, well, I've said it once. I'll say it again. If those two end up together, I'm gonna end up with cement shoes on the bottom of the Miami River.

52:03Ben Mandelker: Listen, you know why I'm never going to see Todd again? Because Alexia tells me where she's going, and I don't go there.

52:11Ronnie Karam: Well, I feel like...

52:13Ben Mandelker: What's that? Oh, I made a joke. I was waiting for the audience to laugh.

52:18Ronnie Karam: Oh, sorry. It's just me. Alright, there you go. Well, I feel like it's really important for your friends to know that they have your back, but I want to be there for Alexia, like I'm so there for people. Like that's who I am. I'm like such a good friend to everyone. Like did anyone ask Lisa if she's unfollowed my ex-boyfriend?

52:38Ben Mandelker: Since I'm such a good friend to you, like, since I've done things like be friends with you and such and XYZ and this and that, is anyone doing the same for me, like?

52:47Ronnie Karam: Oh wait, did she unfollow him? I don't think she unfollowed him, like, but I don't think so. I mean, like, I just checked like five times today and she's still like following me like five five, what I feel like. Well then I'll say something if it bothers you. What am I supposed to say? Hey, there she is. Lisa, did you like, I feel like everyone follow Marcus? No. But like, are you like planning to? Or like, I feel like no.

53:17Ben Mandelker: I don't know if I'm going to. It depends on if he's on Traders again. I'm waiting to see where her star goes.

53:23Ronnie Karam: But like, you told me like you were going to. Like, you told like Alexia like.

53:26Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but then we got into all this. you know, stuff. And you've been like, not so great to me. Oh, I've been not so great to you?

53:34Ronnie Karam: Really? Like, I've been like, not so like, great, like, to you like, to you

53:38Ben Mandelker: like, I feel like. Listen, I don't want to talk about it here on the street. We're right in front of the ice cream place. It's too scary for them. I don't want to do this right here, okay?

53:45Ronnie Karam: No, but like, what have I done to you that's like, not so great then?

53:48Ben Mandelker: I don't want to do this, okay? I need to collect my thoughts. I got a lot of thoughts. They need to be collected. I left a few of the same bars, so I got to take a plane back there to get some, I left a thought on the train too. Oh my I got it was such a good thought. So I just need to collect them all. And then we can talk about it another time. I don't want to do the scene right now.

54:03Ronnie Karam: But like you told me you were going to, and then you told Alexi like you were going to too. So like, why are you telling people, including like Alexi?

54:11Ben Mandelker: That was before a lot of unspecified things happened with us. I can't articulate right now. So I got to think of what they are. Okay. I got to, I got to come up with some things. Okay. I can't just like do a scene. Okay. I have to work with Jody. We got to come up with some examples. It feels like. I talked to chat GPT. You can see what happened.

54:27Ronnie Karam: But like a sense of message. Why am I mad? But like a sense of message, you don't care about me. Like, you know what? Like, I would never like talk to you again. Like, I would never like acknowledge you again. Like, because like publicly, like. Oh, God.

54:40Ben Mandelker: All right, girls. Can we just, well, this is not good. Lisa, Lisa, just unfollow Marcus already, okay?

54:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And she's like, trust me. You were like not missed yesterday. Like, no one even cared. Like, someone was like, where's Lisa? And then everybody's like, ooh, Lisa, she's so stupid-like. She's probably somewhere following somebody stupid someplace-like. Who even cares-like? We all order drinks, and we're like, ha, ha, ha. Who's Lisa-like? No one cared.

55:11Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you were not missed at all. Leave me alone. You weren't missed at all yesterday. Best believe that. Or maybe I should say worst believe that, because you're the thing that's the worst thing to believe in.

55:25Ronnie Karam: And Lisa's like, whatever. You know what? I still follow Marcus because he's a better friend to me than she is. And she's like, you know what? I guess you're just like a groupie-like. Because you used to follow Pippin, and now you follow Jordan. Like, you're a groupie. It's all good, groupie. Yeah.

55:44Ben Mandelker: You're like the worst kind of groupie. The kind of groupie that doesn't even have sex with him, like I did. Lisa's like, what? Groupie? You dated him. You only did athletes. You're like a frigid groupie-like. You frigid groupie. You're like a groupie that can't get past the metal things outside of Mass Square Garden, but the real groupies can go through that and into the tunnel and get to hang out backstage and then eat the little cheese and meats that they have in the reception area for when the athletes come out. But you have to stand outside. And when you get hungry, you have to go to a hot dog vendor that's down the street.

56:17Ben Mandelker: And then you have to go find your place in line again by the metal grates. That's sad for you.

56:22Ronnie Karam: Does Marcus even have groupies? He's not a sports star, is he? He's just like related to somebody. Like, I don't even think that counts. Yeah, it does not count. No. So I love that Lisa pointed out. She's like, oh my God, this girl who's always associated with an athlete, a rapper, the Kardashians, like no bigger groupie than Larza Pippen. I mean, what in the clout? Thank you. Now that said, Larza sucks, but also you should unfollow Marcus. You should unfollow.

56:50Ben Mandelker: What the hell? You guys just made up. you should do it as like a gesture that you want to move forward like why are you what yeah i mean the fact that she is still following marcus at her like or just get like a burner account or something but like yeah this is i think it's shitty of lisa at this point because she's made

57:07Ronnie Karam: a request and you're just being a dick about it at this point yeah so no um lisa is going off to marisol in the lobby she's like she just came at me well you shouldn't follow him okay well someone's being an asshole i'm not gonna do as they say well someone at some point needs to move the needle here all right someone's gotta do something it's not gonna be resolved right now all right and adriana's like i gotta be like this is so boring like i love adriana because none of this drama involves her and she is so bored when it's not involving her it's like i'm gonna behave on one trip and god is gonna be the worst trip of my life because it's so boring yeah seriously so um

57:46Ben Mandelker: Lisa's like, so you weren't missed last night? Like what? She said I wasn't even missed? That's crazy. Well, I mean, now you're just being mean to each other. No, like I'm literally not actually saying anything to her anymore. Okay, she's being mean to me. She's calling me a groupie. She called me multiple names. I wrote it down right here. So for instance, she called me a groupie. She called me a lady with legs and arms. I hated that one.

58:11Ronnie Karam: She called me a grouper, which I don't even know what that is. It's a fish, I think. Well, that's not very nice.

58:17Ben Mandelker: She said I was group think. I don't get that. Well, that's a psychological principle. When a lot of people are together, they sort of like move the needle on what's logical. And by the end, they get to some other place where they're thinking that something's normal. And it really isn't. They just all convince themselves that I'm not even following anymore. I don't like this. I'm not happy.

58:32Ronnie Karam: Why would she even call me grappa? What the fuck is that? All right. You know what? Now I think she's just trying to think of words that she's heard before. All right. Listen, I want to go to bed. It's not normal to take notes. Okay. Yes, I'm taking notes. I'm writing every word down. Look at this one. I can't even. That's not a word. It says grappled. No, it doesn't. Yeah, it does. All right. Spell it for me. B. No, you're right. I'm going to bed. I'm going back. Wait, wait, wait. Look at this.

59:03Ben Mandelker: Look at this. It's underwear. Yeah. It's food of the loom. And she circled the one in the middle and said, you, the grapes. Yeah. Unacceptable.

59:15Ronnie Karam: All right, let's get ready for spiritual fomenclos. Necessitas, okay? You need it.

59:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, okay. I'm going back to my room, okay? I'm not a stenographer or anything like that. And I'll give you about five minutes to figure out what stenographer means. Okay. Hey, everyone. This is the end of part one of this recap. For part two, keep an eye on your podcast feed. It is coming up in just a moment. Thanks so much for listening. Catch you on the second half Watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors Ain't no thing like Alison King It's always a party on Alison Block Our way is the Amber way It's the Foster and the Furious It's Amanda Foster It's always automatic with Ashley Otto Put your hands together for Carly Clapp Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offord

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1:04:02Ronnie Karam: I mean, I just have. Wow, it is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan, garlicky blend with some lemon in it. And you can dip anything in there.

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