#3007 Crappy Hour 9-22-25: RHONY and RHONJ Casting Rumors

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1:25Ronnie Karam: Watch What Crappens hello everyone this episode of watcher crappens is brought to you by virgin voyages yes virgin uh yeah thanks virgin voyages for sponsoring this lovely crappy hour and it could be the final crappy hour ever i mean virgin could be our final um sponsor because tomorrow is the rapture people it is the rapture holy people are going to heaven and the rest of us are screwed wait a second wait why is there a rapture on Rosh Hashanah by the way happy Rosh Hashanah happy Rosh Hashanah happy Rosh Hashanah wait why is there a rapture tomorrow where did that come from I feel like normally there's so much hype leading up no I thought like normally there's like remember when there was one in like 2012 it was like everyone was talking about the rapture the rapture May 20th May 21st whenever it was you can't just like have a surprise rapture.

2:27It doesn't work that way.

2:28Ronnie Karam: I didn't know till a few days ago. I started seeing all these TikToks posted on Reddit of people being like, y 'all, the rapture's coming. We're so excited. You know, we're selling all our stuff. I'm just sitting out here looking at the stars and just, I just can't wait for rapture day. Like people are so excited. They think they're getting raptured. I saw a lady today who was like going to Walmart to buy more Bibles, which I don't know. Do you just need those for the raptures? Like to prove that you're like the most religious i don't know but she was stocking up on bibles and she was leaving like to go when she left notes on how to take care of her pets i guess the sinners are going to stay down here and take care of all the holy people's pets i guess that's how the rapture works that's how it seems to be in their mind so the rapture does not take animals to just humans i guess well some people are like oh my gosh will they take the dogs you know that's like a big thing on tiktok right now they're like is jesus going to take our dogs or just us but i used to be i I was raised that the rapture meant that the sinners all burn.

3:26Ronnie Karam: I think we all burn down here. And then the holy people get taken up. But I think now people are like, oh, no, you just have to stay on earth and take care of our pets, I guess. Oh, OK. So it's just basically like free dog sitting. OK. Yeah. Dog sitting. OK. Well, I hope that there's no rapture tomorrow because Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is on. So I would that'd be terrible timing. We're just. KDC says some of us can finally get a house. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's hilarious. Guys, I got a huge deal on this house, you know, the rapture market. It was pretty good this year. The new show on HGTV, Rapture Hunters.

4:12It's like, well, now that a whole bunch of inventory has opened up, Joyce and Michael have decided to move to Manhattan.

4:20Ronnie Karam: one of their places is close to the center of town. The other place is close to the burning fiery pits of hell. Which will they choose? Great news, everyone. Lola Broadhead says she's in the UK. It's 1.33 a.m. and the rapture has not happened yet. So fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. I mean, it's all, look, it's already happened. I mean, look, I mean, if you're like in Asia, you've You've been in prime rapture time for many hours. Does the rapture care about time zones? Is it like - Yeah, that's the thing. No one knows what time exactly because there's so many different time zones. So people are going to be waiting for a while.

5:00Ronnie Karam: It's not going to be like, I was completely wrong at 6 a.m. It's going to take a couple of days and then we'll see if there are a couple of days left. It's like finding you have a package that's showing up with FedEx Ground and you're like, well, it's out for delivery. It's arriving sometime today. And then at like 4.30, you're like, sorry, it's coming in. We don't really know when it's coming in. You'll get an update in a few days. You're like, but what about the rapture? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you've been rescheduled. The rapture has been rescheduled. So just wait. So I don't know. We'll see. Time will tell.

5:32Ronnie Karam: Okay? Time will tell. But good luck to everybody out there. Let's hope we get taken. Well, happy Rosh Hashanah for real. I forgot that it was tonight. I thought it was tomorrow. It is tomorrow, but I forgot that it actually starts tonight. I'm being a bad Jew. So apologies to whoever was hoping that I'd make them a Rosh Hashanah dinner tonight because I'm not, because I didn't, and I have no apples. And I went to the market today and I still didn't buy any apples, which was my failure. But, but, but you know what? But blue is a very Jewish color and we're both in blue. So you know what? We're honoring.

6:07Ronnie Karam: This is our honor. This is our, our fancy Rosh Hashanah t-shirt. So let's talk some Bravo stuff, shall we? Let's, let's kick off the new year with some bravo, some bravo gas, shall we? Okay. Well, what do you want to start with? Um, well, you know, actually there's something I want to start with. Let's, you know, I always like to start, you know, with like a little stupid thing. There's something we have not addressed. And I don't know if you've even seen this. Have you been aware on Tik TOK and on social media that Sarah from real housewives of Dubai has gone viral. Have you seen her little quote going all over social media from a few weeks ago?

6:50Ronnie Karam: The one where she's like, don't, don't let your job, don't do the job you love, love that. Wait, what did she say? Don't, don't love your job, job, job, your love. Yeah. Job, your love. Yeah. That's been going for a while. It's been going on for a while, but I feel like we've never addressed it. And I feel like we just have to address, like we have to say, like, we are aware that this is happening. And I think it's what's to me so funny about it is that for the majority of the world, for like the entire world population minus like 25 ,000 people, they have no idea who this lady is. She just shows up out of nowhere saying this bullshit.

7:24And then for those of us who know who Sarah is, I think this is the most hilarious thing because I just love that we sat through two seasons of her speaking utter bullshit that makes no sense being a total faker. and now she's basically getting roasted by the world. And of course she sees it as praise. She sees it as like her message getting through.

7:42Ronnie Karam: Oh my God, I went viral, you know? Like I said, don't do the job you love. Job you love. Job your job or whatever. Don't love your job. Job your love. She tries to explain what this actually means. Don't love your job. Job your love. Job your love. She tries to explain it as like, you know, the love that you have, like treat it like a job. Like go and like, you know, show up and like you put in your hours and like that's your love like that's that's what shut up sarah yeah and then the fact that like she they all have to say dr sarah all mom donnie when she like went like she had like this bogus not i'm not gonna say bogus but she got a stupid degree she got a stupid doctorate and now everyone has to call her a doctor she's just i don't know well you know i think that i never i think i never brought it up because i feel like we've already done that before when we talked about dubai because we would always make comments like that you know, because she was always making some spiritual platitude bullshit comments.

8:38Ronnie Karam: And so I felt like we had already done so many riffs on that, that it just seemed like one of those times where something we constantly made fun of literally came true right in front of our eyes. And it just made me feel good. I will tell you this much, that girl's not getting raptured. Because, you know, God's like, no, don't drop your love. Don't, don't drop your love. Don't love your rapture, rapture your love. Which actually makes more sense than what she says. yeah um so she's still she's still a dummy um so there are some real housewives of new york casting rumors well first i saw a clip of an interview with aaron aaron leachie queen of wow you know you all if even if you don't watch new york you might know her as the person who brought um a very special alcohol to america for the first time yeah mezcal mezcal she brought What an innovator.

9:34Ronnie Karam: We've never heard of it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. I heard it's great. I'm so glad that she invented it. She's the Christopher Columbus of Mezcal. She really is. She brought it over to America in blankets filled with smallpox. Yeah. Her Mezcal is her smallpox blanket. Yeah. Remember that next time you take a sip. Aaron, who is just full of so much personality, and really one has to credit Aaron for really, you know, being a breakout star on that reboot, you know, thank God for her. Thank God for all that humor and personality. She's just so Aaron in this interview. So she's talking about, you know, who she knows from the OG cast.

10:18Ronnie Karam: And she's like, yeah, well, like I see Sonia, but like she never remembers who I am. I mean, it's like ridiculous. I'm like, hello. oh, like I literally know you. Like we've literally met. And she just, every time she sees me, she's like, who are you? I mean, really? I mean, Erin, you're Erin, you know? You're Erin and Sonia's Sonia too. Like you're forgettable and she's forgetful. I mean, what do you expect? Yeah. And then she says that her mom, she says, Luanne's a blast, Dorinda's a blast. Bethany's actually been very nice to me on DM. Like she really, she told me where to get the best chicken salad.

10:55Ronnie Karam: I thought that was really nice. But her mom lives in Ramona's apartment building, not her apartment, but her apartment building. And they ran into each other. And my mom said something to her like, oh yeah, my daughter's on the show now. And she's like, oh yeah, I don't watch that. It's doing terribly. And my mom's like dying. She's like, oh, okay, thanks. That's so Ramona. That's so Ramona. Like, you know what? I'm sorry. I know I can't watch the reboot, but you know what? I was doing terribly, okay? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But from what I've heard, everyone on the show looks older than me. Okay.

11:30Because I look young. They look old. I look young. They look old. Yeah.

11:37Ronnie Karam: Okay. So there are casting rumors on Real Housewives of New York. I mean, you got to hand it to them for they just keep trying. You know, that's commendable. Yeah, it really is. So we know that Bryn is gone. We know that Rebecca Minkoff, Becky, Becky Minkoff is gone. Becky, yeah, Bex. Becca. So there's over on entertainmentnow.com, there's a handy infographic. Actually, this came, the infographic really came from the IG account, where what happens live. So by the way, there's no, there's nothing that says any of this is true. This is just what's going through the gossip mill right now. And so the goss is that returning players are Cy, Aaron, Jessel, and maybe Jenna.

12:23How do you feel about just that rumor alone?

12:26Ronnie Karam: I mean, fine. Fine. I think I just need more time, you know? I need more time. What if time was the next person coming back? It's going to be Cy, Aaron, Jessel, and time. Can we worry about this after Rapture time? It's one of those stories where I'm like, eh, I don't know that I'm ready. Let's get the Rapture works out. Yeah, I just need some more time. I mean, look, every season, and we try and scrub the DVR of our brains and start anew. So I just hope it's better. The last one was super not great and ended really badly. So I don't know. I don't know that any of that was these people's fault, but I don't really credit them with giving a great season either.

13:07Ronnie Karam: So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I hope it's great. I want New York to be great. So that's what I'll say. I'll keep it positive like that. I want New York to be great. So whatever you're doing over there, I hope you do it greatly. I think that's a great attitude. I think we're actually all rooting. We're like Tara Banks. We're rooting for you. We're all rooting for you. We want New York to be great. It has a great legacy. I'm not trying to be a pun with that, but it does have a great legacy and we want nothing but the best. It's one of the greatest cities in the nation, if not the world.

13:37It has such a unique identity. It just needs to be given a cast that should reflect the greatness of New York, but actually maybe not the true greatness of New York because they actually tried to address the true greatness of New York by showing like of this big diverse cast of fascinating, you know, art, art, arty fashion forward people. But it's like, no, I actually want kind of the worst of New York. I kind of want the awful people in the Upper East Side who are tone deaf and obnoxious and they go to the Hamptons. They don't understand how much things cost and they're terrible. Like that's actually what I want.

14:11I want to go into their worlds. I don't need to go into an influencer's world. I know, I don't, it's not exciting for me to go into a Bryn Whitfield world.

14:19Ronnie Karam: Well, it's also, I think one thing they were trying to do, you know, beyond the diversity, because New York had been getting in so much trouble because of comments that Ramona was making and the season with Ebony and all that that happened. That was a disaster of a season. And I think that they were coming back thinking, you know what, we'll give the audience what they want. Non-problematic people who aren't going to get canceled. And, of course, that ended up backfiring with Brynn. But at the time, you know, you could kind of see what they were going for. The problem with that is non-problematic people who aren't going to get canceled any minute don't make good housewives.

14:55Ronnie Karam: To be a good real housewife, you have to be insane and you have to prepare. You can't be. Like they're going to cancel them at some point. They're going to be so bold that they're going to get in trouble. And that's part of being a real housewife. And it's nothing to do with the diversity. It doesn't mean you have to have a bunch of ignorant white ladies. But there are ignorant people of every color. And I think they should all be. Absolutely. There are plenty of crazy people from all walks of life that they should find. And instead Bravo tried to do something that was like, I don't know, out of the pages of like Cosmo or something.

15:31And it was like, no one wants Cosmo. We want to want, we want to like see the stupid people from like town and country or something. But yeah, we need it. We need to fix that. However, I mean, it wasn't a total outright failure. I do think that Jessel was a great find. Someone who is delusional, who is ridiculous, who says ridiculous things. Like that's where Jessel, Jessel was so strong. They did not center her this last season. I always said that was a mistake. I think Erin, I don't know, Erin, like, believe it or not, I actually was rooting for Erin to be better than she was. I think Erin was, she was trying.

16:05She understood the assignment, but she just couldn't execute it the way I think that she saw that she could. She knew that she had to stir the pot. She knew she had to get into things, but she just wasn't compelling in the way she did it. And, you know, I think Psy was most improved. So when they said that Jaisal, the rumor is Jaisal and Psy come back, I can't believe that I'm actually in a place where I'm like, okay, with Psy being back. Because after the first season, I never wanted to see her on my TV again.

16:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they changed, yeah. But still not hilarious. Psy or Aaron. So I need more hilarity. So let's see who we've got here. One lady is named Nicole Daisy Troye, Martha Stewart's makeup artist.

16:50I appreciate the link to Martha Stewart. I don't feel like makeup artist is where we should go for a real housewife. Yeah, like we need Martha Stewart.

17:00Ronnie Karam: We don't need Martha Stewart's makeup artist. I mean, what the hell? We want to be aspirational. Now, of course, there's like makeup artists that are like the top of their career and they are like very esteemed and they are artists and they are like really wonderful at what they do. And by the way, almost to a T, every single makeup artist I've ever met in my entire life has always been absolutely batshit crazy, oftentimes in a great way, in a great, hilarious way. But I think that these shows are about the people who employ the makeup artists, not necessarily the makeup artists. Well, wait, you're going to get another one because now we have June Ambrose, who is a celebrity stylist.

17:39Ronnie Karam: Okay, that's just a whole different show. You know what I mean? Put June and Nicole on a different show where stylists are going out and fighting with each other and like fighting over clients and stuff like that. I feel like I've heard of June Ambrose before. I don't know where I've heard of her before. I'm sure someone's going to weigh in. Well, her picture's like this. She's like looking up, which I like.

18:03um i like that carrie shoot i don't i i just came in i don't i missed the context of this but carrie in the comment says carol is garbage so a perfect housewife great i'm always good for anyone garbage um yeah june amper's yeah i don't know stylists my concern with the stylist is that like we just sort of had two seasons of people coming from that world and it was not great so brianna is saying now

18:29Ronnie Karam: Now, June has been in the game for over 30 years. Right. She's famous, right? She's known, right? And a lot of this is to not, a lot of this, I mean, we don't know. We see just like a little, they're literally teeny tiny pictures with their names and what they do. So this is all blind. We don't have any idea if these people would be good or not. Because when I first saw Ramona Singer on TV, I said, absolutely not. And I would not watch that show because she looked insane. She was like, whoa. just like kind of cross-eyed like look i just uh and just her attitude and i i thought no how how why would they cast this person which of course once i did start watching it completely understood how they cast her but you know you never really know until you see somebody in their element if they're going to be good or not so the next one by the way i just want to say people in the comments are really like they're saying that june is really she's sort of like an icon she's been in the game for a long time and people seem to be actually quite excited at the idea of June being a real housewife.

19:29So I'm actually going to trust our listeners on this because I know our list, like we're all kind of on the same page. And if our listeners are saying she's been around for a while and if she was on the show, like that would be a get. I trust that. Okay. Like I believe that just how like we always said that like on Beverly Hills, like why do they not have Nicolette Sheridan? Right? Like where's Nicolette Sheridan? I kind of feel like it sort of seems like maybe we're getting some of that energy here with June Ambrose.

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22:25Ronnie Karam: So the next one up is Erica Faye Jones, who's a real estate developer. And it's interesting that She has Faye in her name because she has Faye Resnick face. And you know what? I'm going to share this so we can show people these who we're talking about. Why not? Window. Share the window. Share the ladies. Let's bring the ladies up, shall we? Okay, so Erica Faye is right here. I'm getting Faye face, aren't you? And her name is Erica Faye. Yeah, and on top of that, actually, I'm looking at some other pictures on Google Images. And she sort of has like an Eva Longoria meets Lindsay from Summer House face, too.

23:01which I think is a great sign. That's a great combo.

23:07Ronnie Karam: Erica Faye. Who's in one photo? What's her name? Jones. Okay. Let's see. Let's go to Google Images. Let's see. Yeah, this is the picture they used, which is kind of Faye face, right? Oh, my God. Oh, that's Charlie Kirk's wife. Is that what that is? Erica Faye Jones divorce. Who is that? I'm getting all my faces mixed up. Like they got Charlie Corp's wife to be on New York. Let's start spreading the rumor. Isn't that who this is? Yeah, former somewhere. It looks like, it might be. It might be. I can't tell. I think it probably is. Oh, Google Images is trolling us. Okay. So that's her. So I don't know.

23:47Ronnie Karam: She's a real estate developer. What do I know? Okay. By the way, JR in the comments says that Martha's makeup artist has her own company and is really rich. Okay. They need to say that. They need to say that. Like makeup entrepreneur. Yeah, say like rich, crazy lady with a makeup company. That's how you sell it. You know, tell me it's someone's makeup artist. That's a difference. Yeah, say makeup entrepreneur like Chanel Ayan. Come on. Speaking of, somebody in the comments also said Chanel said she was going to be moving to New York while her son went to school. So come on, people. Pay attention.

24:22I think we need to like, with Real Housewives of Dubai, they just really need to take that cast. It should be like a corporate reorg. Just like put everyone, just put them, just scatter them into different shows. Put Caroline Brooks here. Put Chanel's there. Put Caroline Stanbury somewhere else. Like just, there is raw talent on that show. Let's not lose it. Okay.

24:42Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Okay. Who do we have next here? I'm looking at a different window. You go next. Do you still have it up? Okay. Yes. Chanel Jones. Chanel. Chanel Jones. Chanel. The Today Show host. She's a Today Show host. so i like that because she can always be like oh hi ladies how are we doing oh i know i love today's show hosts like huda yeah i mean um wasn't hoda wasn't hoda

25:17Ronnie Karam: today's show what was she copy third hour i liked her when she was always like hey how's everybody do it today we're going over a new kind of coffee that i can't live without i can't live without it i love coffee i like that constantly laughing on the verge of maniacal you know shakes kind of a person yeah i um i think if you're gonna do like a tv host it like you have to like it's a double edged sword because either they're like very fake and they're not gonna really give you their true self because they have a broadcasting career they care about or like you want someone like Stacy from Potomac who maybe is like out of a job or moved to this to get like a higher job and has like that fake thing but you can see there's like chicanery like underneath the surface that comes out in a really fun way like so I think that yeah like I think Hoda there's a risk that it goes wrong gardener or something you know like I think that there's something under that maniacal like happiness.

26:19Ronnie Karam: There's always something like she pinches babies or something, you know? So I'm the same as you. I'm rooting for it. Erica Faye Jones is Giselle Bryant's best friend and business partner, says Michael Horn, who is, by the way, Michael Horn has a podcast. You all should listen to it. I think we did know that. But didn't Erica show up on some Potomac episodes now that Michael says it? Yeah, I didn't know. I feel like she showed up and I think she did. I think that's a plus, right? Okay, so now we have Sarah Wettenhall, owner of the colony palm beach and hedges east hampton okay so put her in she's gonna be awful she's a yes she's gonna be she sounds terrible let's do it bring her terrible she is capitalizing off of super wealthy people and she probably has certain ideas of like what's right and what's wrong and she's probably asked backwards get her in there right away yeah so this is nine people including jenna so we'll see how this pans out but you know what you guys keep on cooking in that kitchen and i i can't wait to see what you bring out and i would say this share this i'm gonna say that jenna um i think that she should be a friend of i i think i had high hopes for jenna because i loved her show um whatever i'm blanking what it was called but uh the show that she had on hbo max before this i thought she was quirky and fun and fabulous and that did not translate onto housewives so i I appreciate that Jenna is original and she's like a different type of housewife.

27:46And I like that. I do like that she's very successful and wealthy. But I think that like maybe she might need like a friend of season. And then we can reevaluate to see if she can come back to like full-fledged housewife. But I love her. I just don't know if she's, I don't know if she was quite compelling enough to be housewife.

28:04Ronnie Karam: Well, there are other rumors swirling about Real Housewives of New Jersey casting. there have been rumors that Teresa is not being asked back because she's refusing to film with Melissa still so um basically in one in one interview she says I'm not desperate for that job I'll be fine blink blink blink blink blink um and in another she because then people were like oh my god Teresa's really not coming back and then so in another interview she was like well you know, like, my door is, like, cracked. Like, you know, like, I'm kind of open to it. You know, like, I could maybe, like, make up with her heart, but, like, we'll see how it goes.

28:49Ronnie Karam: So she's kind of backpedaling on that. And someone said, hey, Teresa, is it true you're not coming back to Real Housewives of New Jersey? And she was like, whatever, I'm the OG. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I cannot tell. I really cannot tell what the situation is with Teresa. I keep on saying that Bravo is never going to drop Teresa, but people are saying like, like Louie is like too much of a liability. I really don't know how it's going to shake out. Well, we still don't know what's going on with Jersey, but apparently it's, they've got a lot of headlines coming out. So I think that it's something's going on over there because a publicity machine is back on.

29:31Ronnie Karam: It's, it's gearing up. Recently, um jen fessler and jackie goldschneider were um they were at the page six virtual reality after party for their award show that they had and they're jen's like well it's me jen fessler here with jackie goldschneider we're just having a blast at this party what a great night and jackie's like you know where our friendship went wrong was when you cared only about the famous people in the room and you didn't value our friendship and there's just a long silence because they're just like recording some random thing at a party yeah where the fuck did that and jackie's like audibly wasted like you can hear her she's like yeah you don't appreciate me like you appreciate everybody else and that hurts me jen fessler and jen's like oh well i didn't realize you felt that way i've slept with tomy soprano i don't know if you've heard like yeah well it hurt me and all you care about is fame and she's like um well i'm sorry that you feel like that maybe we could talk about that at a different time well you know it's just very hurtful because i invested so much into our friendship they don't care about me you only care about famous people you're always looking towards the door to see he's coming in you don't care about me who is me what about jackie

30:52i mean i really like jackie but this is very rich coming from the person who like dropped margaret to go hang out with teresa like i don't know like it's i'm like you know jackie your reputation on this front has not been stellar i have to i have to say yeah that's true that's a good point um but now the audio is pretty amazing you should listen to it i'm thinking i'm making

31:14Ronnie Karam: it like an extended ringtone because it was just so awkward and jen fessler is just trying to have fun and they're at this fun award show and jackie was just not having it this is this is when they were recording a pod she was drunk during their podcast no no it was an after party for their award show they just had their award show yeah oh it was caught on i thought i thought this was like their podcast that she said that no i think they were doing like a live like an instagram live or something from the after party and this is when she chose to bring this up and she's like you know we're on live right now it's like yeah and that's what i'm saying you respect our friendship i invested so much into this friendship you know jennifer in the comments says ben you really like jackie she's shown who she really is and she sucks no i agree i think that jackie has fully she fully fell on her face this last season and i don't like i don't like how she treated margaret and i think also like her role in that stupid scandal i don't even remember exactly what it was at this point in what that she was the one who talked to the person the woman instead was really, really bad.

32:18I always liked her as a real housewife. I just, I think she lost her way. And so I would like her to have a season where she, like a redemption season, but she ended on a sucky note. So like if people say like, oh, Jackie sucks, like I wouldn't be like, no, she's the best. I'd be like, you know, well, she had a sucky last season and you know what, that's what happens. You have a sucky last, if you suck in your season, you never know if you're gonna get another season to redeem yourself. And so that's always going to be awesome.

32:48Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But, you know, just the awkward silences, just the making it awkward and the amount of awkward silences in that recording. I was like, okay, well, you know, I wouldn't mind if we revisited Jackie because that shit's funny. I was cracking up. And just hearing Jen Fessler again, because she's still so Jen Fessler. It made me excited for Jersey. Yeah, I mean, this is good. We're building up a Jersey, a Jersey desire. But I wonder if like, I wonder if Rhode Island is going to just like steal all that thunder because like really the talk has been about Rhode Island and what they just finished filming, right?

33:25And so now they're getting ready for their, like that's going to be, I feel like all the attention is going to be there. I wonder if there's going to be any Rhode Island cast reveals or anything that's going to happen at BravoCon. What do you think? Probably, yeah.

33:38Ronnie Karam: It seems like they're holding a lot for BravoCon, right? Yeah. I feel like there's going to be some, like, maybe they'll like introduce the casts, even if they're not ready to show us any footage. But I would be, I feel like they'll have some footage or maybe like a sizzle, not a sizzle, but like a teaser, if not a full trailer for BravoCon. And I think we're going to get that. And I think we're going to get a Vanderpump Rules teaser and maybe even the Ladies of London. I think we're going to get everything at BravoCon. Everything. Oh my God, Ladies of London. Yes. I hope they, I hope they don't fumble Ladies of London.

34:08Ronnie Karam: I'm so excited. I know. all the teasers are coming out. I mean, like we also had the summer house teaser. Speaking of summer house, there was like the tiniest little teaser that dropped a few days ago. That was basically giving us what we've always dreamed of, which is a spinoff of what happens in the city in between the weekends. And I cannot tell you, I am so excited for this. I am so, so excited. Like this is what I've wanted for like nine years. Yeah. That's going to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, of course. I mean, it depends on which way they go. We didn't see anything. They didn't show us anything except that we're going to have a city spinoff.

34:47Ronnie Karam: So I don't know who's going to be in that. So I don't know. I'm reserved. But, yeah, I'm excited. At this point, Bravo's got me to the point where I'm just so excited to see anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm like, come on. Give me something here. Like, what am I doing tonight? Nothing. Okay. I mean this. But, you know, after this, I'm like, I'm watching Baking Show. Come on, man. Give me something, Bravo. Well, Ronnie, your lighting's looking really good all of a sudden. It was good the entire time, but you have this nice, like... Oh, it's getting dark outside, that's why. Yeah, it's getting dark, so you're looking very highlighted.

35:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, thank you. Thank you, son, for going down. You're really working with my cheekbones. Ronnie, Ben, Ronnie, how was the Jeff Lewis party? I heard it was a mess with Kelly, Todd, and her husband there. I'll just say husband. them um yeah there was some drama at that uh jeff lewis party you know what look i'm a very liberal person they're very conservative people and kelly and i both have very extreme tempers and we have fought many a time actually we we argue almost every time we see each other and this was no exception but but that said we also laugh together quite a bit but we don't agree on anything um and And so we got into kind of a screaming match in the middle of this hotel lobby, me and the couple.

36:07Ronnie Karam: And it went on and on. I just couldn't believe some of the stuff I was hearing. We've made up for it. I'm not going to get into it because it's politics. And we don't really talk about that on this show because it's especially right now. It's really inflaming everybody. Obviously, it inflamed me. I lost my shit, basically, is what happened. And I woke up feeling like I should have been more embarrassed than I was. But I wasn't really. But it was ugly. It ended well. We decided to agree to disagree. And that's pretty much how that ended. But, yeah, I don't know how I expected to go to a Jeff Lewis thing and for there not to be drama.

36:45Ronnie Karam: But I didn't necessarily expect that it was going to be, you know, with me. But, listen, one thing I love is screaming in arguments with people that I disagree with. So I had a good night, ultimately. But I think everything I had to say I said to their face. And I think they did too. And we ended it, um, as well as, you know, we ended it well, we agreed to disagree. You guys were like, you know, you guys were like having this whole political argument. I was like, Oh my God, are we really doing this right here? You guys, you guys were like fighting. And then all of a sudden, three seconds later, you guys were like clutching each other.

37:16Like, Oh my God, I love you. It was like literally no one, those real housewives episodes. When like people go from like, like on Miami, when they're like, like when Stephanie and Alexia are like fighting the next thing, you know, it's like, I love you. It's like, That's what you got. I was like, I can't. You guys are. But it was it was you guys were having a political argument, but it was not as it wasn't very deep in terms of like, well, it wasn't that deep.

37:37Ronnie Karam: I mean, look, you've everybody's been having the same arguments all over the country. I don't think anything either one of us said was groundbreaking or new. It was basically liberal talking points versus conservative. I just was so I just got so pissed because, you know, Kelly is not some wilting flower. I mean, Kelly, when she argues, it's like, you're wrong. I'm communism. You know, that was that. And so then, of course, I start matching that. And then before you know it, we're not even taking it that seriously. But at one point, you know, everybody's sitting there just like this, you know, looking at us.

38:09Ronnie Karam: And I was like, oh, okay, well, I guess we should wrap this up. So basically, I was like, look, you know, Kelly, I've never agreed with you. We have a long history of disagreeing and getting in fights. but we always find a way to make up and still laugh together when we're in the same place and you know it's ridiculous to to in this country we're on such different pages right now we do have to be able to communicate with each other even when you don't agree it's important to tell people when you think their ideas are stupid and not just let them pass by because there are some times i cannot just be quiet but it's also important to kind of listen i guess and then have the conversation because I mean, what else are we going to do?

38:49Ronnie Karam: We're just all going to be beating each other up in the street soon. So yeah, that was that. So yeah, that, that happened, but it ended, it ended okay. Yeah. Um, it was quite, it was, it was, it was funny. It was funny. And the worst part was that I wanted to go home because I was like, I hadn't had dinner yet. And I wanted to go home and like, just like watch shows for the podcast. But then I was like, if I leave now, then it seems like I'm running away from this thing. I was like, I don't, I'm not running away. I'm not uncomfortable. I'm not awkward. I just want to go home. And it's like, you know what?

39:21You know, when you're like ready to just like, you're like, you're ready to start saying your byes at a party and then something happens and then you'd like, you can't now. And I was having a really fun time at the party, but like, you know, like it was just one of those things like, uh, now I've got to sit here and they're having like the last thing I want to do is sit here during a political argument in the middle of this hotel. But it was, well,

39:40Ronnie Karam: Well, it had been a long week of just reading stuff and reading in the news and reading all these fucking idiotic things being said. And I just, people were just sitting there letting it happen. And I was like, hell no. Like, I just started getting so pissed. And I've gotten pretty good as I've gotten older about keeping my temper in check. But good Lord, it left me that day. And at one point I was just like, fuck it. You know, like if I'm never going to be these people again, I don't care. the best part the best part was at one point ronnie leaned back in his chair and he crossed his legs and he cupped his hands around his knee and he goes i'm sitting back i'm sitting back i'm not interrupting i'm sitting back oh yeah they said let me talk let me talk i'm like they're screaming and they're like no you have to let the other side talk too and i was like okay fine so i sat back and crossed my legs and said fine talk like let me talk let me talk i said i'm sitting back and crossing my legs like that is letting you talk fucking talk let me talk i said but you are talking no but let me talk i said you're talking it was there was a sight to behold everyone and i'm so glad it was it was like it's i'm so glad it's over um but yeah you guys but like yeah it was i don't know if i don't know yeah someone says they were talking about it you should ignore it you know they said you should just ignore stuff like that i know and normally I'm okay with ignoring it, but sometimes I just can't ignore it.

41:04Ronnie Karam: Sometimes you need, you need a solid fuck you. Uh, and I think they got one in and I got one in and then we ended it, it ended fine. And someone said, what did Jeff do? Jeff sat there like this. I was sitting. Okay. First of all, this was a setup. I'm, I'm sitting next to Jeff. Okay. We're in these two easy chairs or whatever. So Jeff is there. Jeff is like this. Cause you know, Jeff loves that shit. Jeff, loves that. LaKendra's on my lap. LaKendra's literally sitting on my lap. Ben was sitting on the other side of my lap. We were all three sharing a chair. LaKendra, Ron, and I were sitting on a chair together.

41:38I was trying to talk to Kristen Taichman.

41:41Ronnie Karam: Kristen Taichman, too, was across from us. I was trying to talk to Kristen Taichman. These two were having their political argument under me. At one point, I was standing. I was like, okay, I'm going to go. Then I was trying to talk to Kristen Taichman. They were screaming at each other under me while I was standing there. And I was like, okay, I can't have this. I was like, I can't. There was like, but they were screaming. But then you guys were like hugging at the same time. It was so crazy. It was hilarious. It was. Well, the hugging happened way after that. But you know what? I've never agreed with her.

42:10There was a moment where you guys like clasped, like you were like, had like a joyous moment. And then you guys were like, hard to use. Well, because it was intense.

42:17Ronnie Karam: I mean, when I'm telling you, we were screaming at each other. We were screaming at each other. It wasn't just like, you're incorrect on this. And I don't really agree with you. It was like on both of our parts. We were going crazy. And so it was just intense. And I think after it was like, oh, my God, what did we just do? Because you see everyone's face around. Everyone's like horrified. So, yeah, whatever. So that happened. But all in all, I mean, it was still it was still a fun night, you know, no hard feelings or whatever. So and anything I have to say about the politics of it or whatever we argued about, I'll say it to their face.

42:51Ronnie Karam: And I'm sure they'll say it to mine, too. So no worries. but anyway that was that i don't want to take any more time my only regret was oh my god i hope that i didn't upset ben because you know that's like being married to a crazy person you're stuck with somebody at a party and something that like that happens and that was our first time at one of those parties too we've never gone to one of those so i was like oh god poor ben you know but yeah i was like i just i just want to go home and have dinner that's all i want to do and now i'm like i don't do I have to stay here? Do I have to like have Ronnie's back?

43:23Of course, I was supposed to have your back. I don't think I did anything that would indicate that. That was just standing there.

43:30Ronnie Karam: That's all. That's all. You don't have, you know, it's not like I was being personally attacked or anything like that. It was nothing like that. So anyway, that was that. All right. Back to the headlines, my little friend. All right. Well, let's talk about, I just saw this headline right here. Paige DeSorbo discusses real reason. She quit summer house, realizing she hated her boyfriend while filming a reality TV brainwashing. Wow. So by the way, I just saw this headline while we were looking at the other article. I saw it on the side. I was like, well, I've got to click on this because I want to know what this is.

44:05So I'm going to like read this on the fly with everyone here. Paige DeSorbo addressed her decision to leave Summer House. She hinted at reality TV's brainwashing. The star also alluded to an ex-boyfriend who acted like a principal. Oh, I wonder who that could be. last year page broke up with Southern Trump's Craig Conover, who said he was, he was blindsided. And so she said, I just had this overwhelming sense that I couldn't go back. I know I would have been doing a disservice to the show. They expect a certain level of showing up and I just couldn't give them that. And I definitely had to get over the feeling that my career would be over the element thinking that like, you need that show in that network.

44:38And Hannah reminded me that they're not in charge of your career and being on reality TV, there's a level of, this is like a harsh word, but like brainwashing sort of like whoever brainwashed Lindsay, that whatever she's wearing is actually stylish. So, uh, yeah. And so she, then she says, I had a, I had a boyfriend once and he worked with one of his friends and he was very adamant to me about how it's like not easy working with your friend. And he would always be like, it's a clear boundary. Like once a week, you have a phone call where it's just like the two of you just like talking about work stuff.

45:12And I was like, what are you, our principal? One thousand percent.

45:16Ronnie Karam: The principal? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't think this says what the real reason is that she left the show. She left the show because she didn't need it. I mean, you got really big and rich. You're like, why am I going back on Summer House? I don't need that shit. And she didn't want to give up summers anymore from what I'm reading from this. But yeah, so page quick. Yeah. I wouldn't want to give up my summer anymore either. I mean, I think like, I mean, I love Paige on Summer House. I don't know what Summer House is going to be like without her, but quite frankly, if you have now reached the level where Paige is selling out Radio City Music Hall like two or three times in a row in one week and like doing all these fashion things, covering the Oscars for Vanity Fair and like being in all these magazines and going on late night TV.

46:03And then you have to spend your entire summer in a house with Kyle and Jesse Solomon of people like that? No, thank you. Lexi Wood, she had to spend a summer with Lexi Wood. Get her out of that house. Let her do famous things. She did it. She worked hard. She made it to a new tier of fame. Let her go to cool parties and spend time where she deserves, which is a quiet beach house where she can sit back and drink a lemonade at 3 p.m. and a gin and tonic after that and watch Love Island and just be a happy person in a quiet house.

46:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yeah. Well, you go live it, Paige. You go live your life. Now, I'm not sure what to expect from Summer House either, although I did see a clip of Jesse walking through the street singing. Like, he made, like, a music video for himself. And I couldn't bring myself to press play on that because I can't listen to Jesse. I'm sorry. Like, you know, there are some things that I have a red line about, and that's it. And I would not cross it. I would not click on the little volume button. But I did watch a whole video of him walking through the street singing. And it was this. That big stupid face.

47:13Ronnie Karam: And so I know we have that to look forward to. A big stupid face. That's all I know. The rest of it, I'm just going to wait until it's upon us. Well, unfortunately, there's billboards with Lexi Wood all over my neighborhood here. And so I feel like I could just never get away from her. I feel like she's left the show, but she hasn't left my life. I just see them and it's like, me and my family okay so um something that's looking promising is real housewives of atlanta casting singer k michelle fires back at giselle bryant and robin dixon for questioning her role on atlanta and blast robin as a couch potato

47:59i thought there was a lot of k michelle stuff going around and in my mind i was like you know what i'm gonna circle back to this one it's closer to crappy hour and then i actually never circled

48:11Ronnie Karam: around to it but yeah this was great so on um so robin said atlanta bravo shows are running out of people in response to k michelle joining real housewives of atlanta and angel love joining married to medicine allegedly they're using people from other networks now so k michelle responded and said why be so worried about me and my overly educated and successful self and what i might be doing robin you ran out of a job a long time ago you would love to be recycled you little couch potato just yapping to be fair she was recycled onto the traders you should have rammed through that hotel lobby where your husband was lady and giselle you look beautiful leave me alone and y 'all go load oh and let me go yodel in peace i'm around here selling out shows and you're selling baseball hats but you're worried about me and what i might be doing the nerve of this couch potato wow i love her i love k michelle wow that also like we have a new hero there's so listen a lot of people have been called couch potatoes and couch potatoes not even really like such a i don't know like weaponizing couch potato in that way against robin is just somehow oddly so perfect that i kind of love it wow the let me go yodel in peace is also hilarious i love that she said Let me go yodel in peace.

49:35Because how many times have I said that? How many times has Paige DeSorbo said that? No wonder why she's gone on that show anymore.

49:40Ronnie Karam: That shit's hilarious. So, I mean, that show's not going to be coming back for a while, I don't think. But goddamn, I know that I have a new hero when it does come back. So, welcome, Kay Michelle. Can't wait to see what you bring. Yeah, great work. Great work, Kay Michelle. That was, you're really, you're really getting me excited right now. In other Atlanta news, Kenya did a video in her hair salon, which I think was foreclosed on this week. There were court documents being, or court papers being passed around that she has been foreclosed on and her salon is officially closed. I don't have them in front of me, but that's what I read.

50:15Ronnie Karam: And she is still doing her like confessionals in her salon. And people were like, oh my God, is that a rat? Because you see something walking behind her at one point. Like, oh my God, Kenya has a rat in her salon while she's trying to shade Karen Huger. And I think it was just her Yorkie, like one of her little Yorkies. but the fact that people were saying oh she has a rat in her salon was just such funny karma for kenya because kenya was being really mean i mean karen huger obviously just got out of jail and kenya was like oh karen you got out of jail so were you the top or the bottom yeah like were you the top bunk or the bottom bunk karen i mean just you know kenya being oh yeah kenya yeah but uh by the way i'm looking at the video And I don't, it's definitely a dog.

51:03It's not a rat, but it's just funny to think about. It's like definitely a dog.

51:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I don't think it was a rat either. I could tell that it was a dog. It's just, it was just funny that Kenya's karma was all that people took from that video as well. Kenya still sucks. She's got rats in her salon and now her salon is foreclosed. So, you know, karma's a quick worker. Speaking of jail time, a quote that's been going around is that Andy Cohen has been saying he never wants to see Jen Shaw again do we think that will ever do we think that statement is at odds with her actually coming back onto the show because I still think Bravo is going to bring her back they're going to bring her back I don't believe for one second that they're not going to bring Jen Shaw back I just don't believe it you can't convince me of it they're going to bring her back she's going to worm her way back in there somehow but maybe not I don't think that shows the answer the show doesn't need her but I think that like I would not be surprised if they do it just to get under Heather Gay's skin you know I don't think I don't want her back I don't want Jen Shaw back I don't think anyone wants her back I think that they would see it as a big ratings boost to have the girl who just went to prison come back you know it'll be like Whitney Rose who's going to shoot a scene with her it's going to be like yeah I met with her yeah cause she put in the time can't you put in the time can't you be better for like the things that you do so you never listen to me lisa because i think everyone deserves a shot the way you don't give me a shot lisa i gave her the time yeah you know it's gonna be one of those what did you go to jail for sucking dick you exploited my vagina and i'll just end on that note it'll just be like it'll go black oh hey it's time to talk to the audience what the heck time is flowing today ben time has flown so uh we're gonna go uh talk to the audience this will be the end of the audio portion and just as a reminder this episode of watch for crappens is brought to you by virgin voyages thank you so much virgin for sponsoring thank you so much the hour virgin thank you so much virgin so much thank Thank you so, so much.

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