#3018 RHOSLC S603 Part 1: Poster Child

0:00What's up, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap happens!

0:04Ben Mandelker: Watch what crap happens, watch what crap happens, who cares what happens when there's so much that crap happens!

0:21Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crapins! I'm Ronnie and that's Benooney over there. Hello Ben, how are ya? Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? How are you? How are you? Good. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's Salt Lake City Day. I am Greek. I am Greek. Coming to you with breaking news on Salt Lake City. It's a huge day. We found out Angie came out of the closet yesterday. She is Greek. She is officially Greek. Crazy.

0:54Ben Mandelker: Wow. I was concerned. I was concerned that she might be Luxembourgian, but now we know for sure.

1:02Ronnie Karam: My sweet little dolma over there. So welcome, everybody. We did Love Megan with Love Megan. Sorry, no disrespect intended. Megs. We did the Netflix show with Love Megan over on our Patreon this week. Go check that out. And if you want videos every day of our shows, all you have to do is go to Patreon. Thanks to everybody over at Patreon. Sure love you. And we're going to be doing crappy hour live this coming Monday, the something at 530 p.m. Pacific time. You can find that over on our YouTube. You can find reminders on our Instagram, all that good stuff. So join us for that. You know what? That's all I have to say about that.

1:45Ronnie Karam: That's all you got to say.

1:47Ben Mandelker: So how are you feeling? It's Monday. Feeling great. Feeling great. highly entertained by Salt Lake City as usual. And really amused by Whitney Rose going nuts at the end. Also very happy to have our taglines at long last. And I actually, on the whole, I actually really liked this crop of taglines. Whitney's was hilariously over. It's not overproduced. It's over labored. It's too much. I don't know. But it was so Whitney Rose. I guess I'm feeling good. and I'm having a nice morning. I had an omelet. So that's a nice touch. That's a big one. It's a nice touch. I had an omelet. My fantasy football team won for the first

2:32Ronnie Karam: football season. Okay, well that's pretty good. I was going to say we're doing nothing, but I mean you had an omelet and you have a fantasy football. So that's more than me. Fantasy football, yeah. I practice seventh chords on the piano. What do you think about that? Okay, so let's get to it. We are with Salt Lake City season six episode three and we open at the Vita at the premiere Vita Tequila Lounge

2:59Ben Mandelker: yes but you know what though we should talk about the taglines so I bring them up I'm going to pull up the taglines you vamp for a moment the taglines were in this episode

3:10Ronnie Karam: I know they're in our notes though they're just after this little thing they are? yeah I guess there is

3:14Ben Mandelker: I was like wait

3:16Ronnie Karam: oh no maybe they're not you know they're not that was a scene. Oh, darn. I thought they were here. I mean, what the hell? We have to look up our taglines now.

3:24Ben Mandelker: That's okay. We can do it. Okay. Salt Lake City taglines. Wow. The Salt Lake City taglines hint at major tragedy and lies. Wow. Okay. That's a little dramatic. Tragedy and lies. That's a bit much. Okay. Okay. Well, it's amazing how many like articles are out there that say they have the taglines that actually don't have the taglines.

3:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I'm looking at reality T I think we're supposed to watch the video. I ain't watching that video. I already saw it.

4:02Ben Mandelker: We want to see texts. I already saw that. We want to see texts of the taglines. All right. Well, you know what? We don't have the taglines. You know what? Yes,

4:09Ronnie Karam: we do. We have them on good old fashioned Reddit. Where else are you going to get anything in this world? Thank God. The biggest news organization on the planet. Redito.

4:18Ben Mandelker: okay sending it over to people are people enjoying the um the real time oh oh wait i found it on reality tea you did wait a new real well a different reality tea sorry no i got conned again oh no i did i did i did i found it everyone i found it guys this is uh for the listeners we're

4:38Ronnie Karam: not very professional this is what we do off oh you all start we've had literally 12 something something hours to prepare and we're like what okay so first up is lisa barlow okay tequila is my livelihood my lifestyle and always top shelf

5:01Ben Mandelker: um to kill yeah to kill is my livelihood uh that's that's good uh wait these are ronnie these are a year ago you're you gave old taglines oh i did yes here but that was a

5:15Ronnie Karam: I've got the receipts proof and the screenshots. Oh God. If it was, Heather did that fucking receipts proof timeline thing again. Okay.

5:23Ben Mandelker: Well, here we go. I sent you a new reality to you link. They rank them what they say from best to worst. I just want the audience to know that this isn't necessarily our ranking, but this is the order in which we'll be reading them off of the website. So thank you, internet. Like this is the moment that the internet is failing for us. I just want to also point out like their internet is so reliable. and why is it that on this one it's so difficult for us so okay the um so the so it's ranked from best tourist i agree with our first ranking yeah this one's a really good one uh this is mary cosby saying i'm just here to eat drink and be merry yeah because that is all mary is there to

6:03Ronnie Karam: do yeah literally like i'm just gonna show up at the lunches and make comments and i'm fine with it that's all i really need from that's all i really need because she does that very very well uh they're saying these pictures on are very is very gorgeous by the way yeah they have a ski

6:20Ben Mandelker: lodge set and it's very pretty yeah well it sort of looks like an ai rendering but um uh that's it's it's well prompted like they're all going to be living there soon so just get used to it get

6:32Ronnie Karam: ready to upload your brain and be sent there but it's very nice you know the the rug is very vacuumed you see the clean lines in the rug and they're wearing blues blues and purples and mary is wearing like an evening gown with big fuzzy sleeves well these these are also old as well because for christmas can i can we get anything new pictures well because the picture the the

6:55Ben Mandelker: new imagery for this season is they're all in white and these are images are this is just what I think what reality T could find. Oh, okay. It doesn't take away from the fact that they're very nice pictures.

7:07Ronnie Karam: I love their copy too. It's really funny. No one does a real housewives tagline like Mary Cosby, whether she's threatening to send Jesus after people or saying her co-stars look like sheep. You never know what she's going to say. That's true. Okay. Next up is Angie. I am Greek and the rest are just a tragedy.

7:27Ben Mandelker: That's really good. I really like that one a lot I especially like that she said I am Greek I'm like really happy she finally got to just say it in a tagline I am Greek and the rest are just a tragedy that's pretty cute the next one is Bronwyn that says if my closet has skeletons at least they'd be well dressed actually I don't think this is a very strong one I wouldn't Reality T, ranking this as their number three favorite, I think is a little generous.

8:01Ronnie Karam: I think she should have said something like, they're trying to come for me, but my lips are sealed. Because her whole thing is like, she won't answer questions about her fraud and ground theft and all that stuff because the cases are sealed. So I think she should have had a sealed thing. Or, you know, I don't know, something about going after someone in court. I don't know.

8:23Ben Mandelker: Or if my closet had skeletons, those skeletons would have started a company called Palm Pilot.

8:36Ben Mandelker: If my closet had skeletons, Christian Siriano would dress them.

8:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And I would pay for it. I've never heard someone brag so much about having to pay a designer, by the way, because she's really like very proud of the fact that she's one of the only pay people that pays christian siriano and then i'll watch what happens live he's like yeah she does pay she's one of the only ones who pays and she paid for this dress too and she's like yeah i paid and i was like that's i don't know you're supposed to brag about getting things for free not paying for them you know if you're a celebrity but i think on the real but like that's what new

9:11Ben Mandelker: money does is like you actually brag about what you could afford not like not what well yeah you

9:16Ronnie Karam: You could afford it, but you don't have to, you know? That's why Lisa Rinna is always going to the Oscars for free, because she finds people to give her a table, you know? She probably could buy a table, but, you know, it's better that you can be like, um, Elton invited me, okay? Yeah. Elton's a huge states of our lives, man, from back in the day. Huge. So next up is Lisa Barlow. I don't go low, I go the Dawson's.

9:43Ben Mandelker: See, I think that's very good. That's a good reference to, like, one of her taglines from last season. I think that reality T should have ranked it higher. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know this is not a referendum on reality T, but like if you're going to do a ranking, then this is how it happens. But I do think that the Lisa Barlow one should be, I think that should be number three and not number four. I think it's a very strong contender.

10:06Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I mean, I think that one's okay. So then we, oh, you're next.

10:11Ben Mandelker: Meredith Marks, while you drop lies, Guys, I'm dropping the beat.

10:19Ben Mandelker: Which is funny to anyone who has no idea. If there's someone watching the show who has no idea that she has this little DJ career that she's kickstarting. Literally tomorrow night in Los Angeles is her tour. Then you're just so confused. What does it mean that Meredith Marks is dropping the beat? There's nothing about her that seems like there's rhythm. I do not associate the concept of rhythm with Meredith Marks.

10:44Ronnie Karam: Well, you will now, buddy. Yeah, I'm excited to see her journey. Her DJ journey. Next up is Heather Gay. My nest is almost empty and the bird is ready to soar. Yeah.

11:00Ben Mandelker: That's stupid. That's stupid. It's, yeah. Yeah. It's just like you're guilt tripping your daughters in your tagline. Like, this bird's wings are clipped. This mama bird is sad in her nest Watching other birds fly But finally she can fly But maybe it's too late for her Because she'll fly and not fly as well And get attacked by a hawk And it's kind of her daughter's fault Because she had to spend so much time with him in the nest Yay!

11:27Ronnie Karam: Disgusting daughters are out of here Goodbye gross smelly disgusting daughters That's not even catchy Heather Hey Heather what do you want for your tagline this year?

11:38Ben Mandelker: I hate my children She posted something on Instagram a few days ago that was like, one of the great honors of my life is raising my daughters. It was like a carousel about her daughters. I was like, nice backpedaling. Even though I think you're totally, it's totally fine to say, like, thank God the kids are out of the house. I think it's like totally valid. Yeah, I think so too. I have no issues with that whatsoever. I just think it's funny that she sort of is like, she's like trying to sort of play it both ways. Like, no, I mean, I love my daughters. I really do. I just, I'm so miserable that they're in the house.

12:12Ben Mandelker: I mean, no, I mean, I love them though.

12:15Ronnie Karam: See, you know, it's totally normal. I think for a parent to be like, oh my God, the kids are out. I've got a whole new life. What do I do? It's like the empty nest storyline. We've seen it a million times. We've seen it in real life a million times. I mean, we're of the age where we know tons of people whose kids are out of the house and all that stuff. So it's not like it's something new to us and it's not a disgusting thing to say. I'd have a party when my kids left personally. It's just how she's handling it is so ham-handed. I think she thinks she's doing something that she's not. I think she's going with the, I'm going to do an empty nest storyline.

12:46Ronnie Karam: So I'm going to talk about it every time I'm on screen about how excited I am to finally be an empty nester. But it's coming across as like, fuck those bitches. I'm sad they came out of me in the first place. And I'm glad their stinky asses are out of here. I hope I never have to see them again.

13:02Ben Mandelker: Well, because her problem is that she's trying to link it to her Mormon trauma. So she's like, you know, I was told I just have to be a mother and I have to do this and I couldn't even be myself. And I was trapped and I was in my bed and I had to do this. But now that they're out, I can finally be me. Instead of saying, like, I'm so excited for my daughters, but I'm also so excited to start a new chapter where for the first time it's just me. And I can see what it's like to be adult Heather and not having to look after anyone except for myself, which is, I think, a different vibe.

13:33Ronnie Karam: That should be the tagline. Say it again. I'm starting a new chapter.

13:39Ben Mandelker: I love my daughters and I'm so excited. I'm just kidding. It's like a whole paragraph long. Receipts,

13:49Ronnie Karam: proof, timeline. Thank God. My daughters are out of my receipts. I prove in my timeline.

13:57Ben Mandelker: Speaking of paragraphs, we had, we end with Whitney Rose. Who's is roses are redheads. violets are blue don't come for me or i'll come for you it's so stupid

14:14Ronnie Karam: we're talking about tenuous grasps on real housewives taglines this has to be the most i mean and storylines in general i mean everyone else you know some people are giving angie shit for saying i am greek too much i don't care if she says that she's greek every five minutes It's guess why? Because she's Greek. And guess why else? Because that's what Greek people do. Have you guys met a Greek person? OK, yeah, we're almost as bad. I would like to say we're almost as bad as Lebanese people. We're we're similar. I would like to say that we're similar. But we get when I first had a group of Greek friends in high school.

14:50Ronnie Karam: I mean, we're our cultures are very similar, right? Greek and Lebanese. Our food is very similar. I should say that and very family oriented and all that. Like my whole family went to see my big fat Greek wedding, I think a million times because we've all been to that wedding before in our own family. Like we get it. Okay. A Lebanese person will get that. And anyone who's known a Greek person knows that they're like that. So I don't mind Angie's. But Whitney's, I mean, Whitney's is that she got red hair in solidarity with her daughter because her daughter gets bullying for red hair. First of all, what country are we in?

15:21Ronnie Karam: We don't bully people for red hair here. That's England. Like Ginger's a cute name here, isn't it? I don't think that's something. don't we have enough that we're bullied over in this country we've got enough stop fucking bullying redheads you idiots if you do that you know what shame on you if you do that and double shame on you for giving Whitney Rose this storyline because I already can't stand it well Whitney knew

15:44Ben Mandelker: she was setting a trap for Lisa Barlow to fall into which she does later this episode when Lisa's like redhead redhead so you know

15:53Ronnie Karam: she already posted a big victim thing on Instagram about it, which I'll read when we get to that part.

15:58Ben Mandelker: But I do think it's tenuous. I mean, like the initial pun of like, roses are red is funny because like, she's Whitney Rose, roses are red, she has a red hair, but then they sort of don't know where to go with it. Like roses are red, violets are, roses are redheads, violets are blue, but then the don't come for me or else I'll come for you is like, just, it's sort of, it's like a declining thing. It's like that, that meme of like the donkey or the horse that's being drawn really beautifully but by the end of the horse it's just like it's just like a scribble scrabble that's what that line is like yeah well

16:33Ronnie Karam: you know she tried it but it is funny because it's still a Whitney tagline roses are red heads violets are blue rest don't come for me heads or I'll come for you for you beds okay are we done Can I go home? She recites it so slowly.

16:57Ben Mandelker: I'm like, you're taking up 37 % of the opening credits just getting through your line.

17:06Ben Mandelker: Whitney can never leave this show because she makes me laugh fucking consistently.

17:10Ronnie Karam: Every single episode, she makes me laugh. You have triggered me. I am so triggered. I mean, I just love it. Okay, so here we are. We open at the Premier Vida Tequila Lounge. And this is my favorite kind of Lisa scene where she just walks around barking orders at people who probably don't even work for her, you know? Yeah. You know what? Can we move those chairs? Because there's chairs there. You know what? There's tables there. Can we move the tables? Because I don't like how those tables are. Blake Lively doesn't like vertical tables. Can we have three-legged tables? Can we just get three-legged tables?

17:48Ronnie Karam: R.I.P. Robert Redford. I miss you so much. You know, after I'm this party,

17:56Ben Mandelker: I'm like exhausted with like talking about these like ridiculous lawsuits with these girls. Because like while they're trying to convince themselves that I'm like in like dire straits, the truth is I was never in that band. Okay. So I'm just like moving on. Okay. So by the way, America, at this party that you're never going to see that's at this random restaurant, We have Steve Carell, Jason Schwartzman, Corey Smith, Ramsey Youssef, also the ghost of Nell Carter, and as well as the Cesar Millan. He's going to whisper to some dogs. It's going to be a huge party.

18:34Ronnie Karam: So is Sundance going on right now while they're shooting this? What's happening? Why are all these people coming to the premiere Vita?

18:41Ben Mandelker: Well, I just can't tell. Maybe it was a Sundance party. Should we look to see if there's a party that had all those people at it? I did. That's what I just Googled. I don't even know who Corey Smith is, by the way. And the fact that Corey Smith got higher billing than Rami Youssef is shocking because I don't know who he is.

19:03Ronnie Karam: Oh, I think they're there because they starred in a film called Mountainhead together, which I'm assuming shot in Salt Lake City. Isn't that a gay porn? Mountainhead. You've seen me do a lot of things, boys, but you have never seen me give a mountain head. Here we go. Mountain head. Four wealthy friends meet for a retreat amidst growing global upheaval caused by AI-generated disinformation. Oh, really? So you're going to go to a retreat someplace where the backdrop of the lodge was made with AI. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it stars Jesse Armstrong. Oh, no. Written by. Okay. Written by Jesse Armstrong. Starring Steve Carell, Jason Schwartzman, Corey Michael Smith, Rami Youssef.

19:55Ronnie Karam: Wow.

19:56Ben Mandelker: Or as Lisa calls him, Ramsey Youssef. Maybe that's his full name. Not sure. But I just thought it was funny because I feel like he's known as Rami.

20:05Ronnie Karam: Ramsey's. Ramsey's Youssef. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

20:16Ben Mandelker: first of all, it sounds like a great movie. I have to say, I mean, nothing, you know what? I love a movie about like four guys who get together during an AI apocalypse. I'm like, hello, sign me up. Um, and, uh, I love that.

20:28Ronnie Karam: I love talking about the end of the world. I'm in. I'm in.

20:34Ben Mandelker: Wow. Great time. Oh, yeah. Is this name? Ramsey. You said, okay,

20:40Ronnie Karam: nevermind. I have to move forward. Yeah. It's over. Put down my IMD. It's over. Put down the IMDb because next thing you know, you're going to be dragged into Heather Kent IMDb page, as we all do when we go to IMDb. We fall down the Heather Kent wormhole.

20:55Ben Mandelker: By the way, as far as I can tell, his name is Rami. And Ramzi Youssef is someone completely different, and we won't get into it.

21:01Ronnie Karam: Okay, well, maybe it was the other Ramzi. I mean, we don't know. We don't know what's going on at this party. So Lisa's like, the other girls, they just don't understand what I do. Like, they always wanted to manage that. They always want to act like it's not happening and it's not real. But I'm doing stuff. I'm doing stuff with Daniel Radcliffe, Usher, Dexter, Forrest Whitaker, Shailene Woodlay. I'm a huge people. Like huge. It's huge.

21:31Ben Mandelker: When she says she's doing stuff with Usher, does she mean the recording artist? Or does she just like telling an Usher in the movie theater to get her more popcorn?

21:42Ronnie Karam: because there is a difference you never know maybe that's the one she's telling to move the table she's like you know what i like horizontal tables i only like horizontal tables i love this

21:53Ben Mandelker: like random hodgepodge of people that she's name dropping daniel radcliffe forrest whitaker usher like i'm i'm so confused i want to get to the bottom of it i'm surprised our like reddit

22:04Ronnie Karam: sleuths have not um dug up the the veracity of these claims well we already found the first one okay we already found why they would be there um so i just put all of those names that she just mentioned into the search and the first thing that came up is imd beat the 100 worst movies of 2020 so congratulations shailene woodley

22:33Ben Mandelker: definitely find by the way hello our workers definitely find out if anyone has like a nut allergy because like my mouth doesn't like the nuts but i love the way they taste like luckily i don't go into anaphylactic shock john's like so many jokes that can be said right now huh

22:50Ronnie Karam: but i'm really mormon so i'm not gonna say um and she also says anaphylactic or something now like how she said i like how she pronounced that she's like you know what yeah not allergies because blake oh my god watch out get an epi pen so you know what no one understands in this group Like if you're like huge You get like sewed That's just how it is And you know what I've been sewed Because I'm sewed And so you know what I'm gonna be sewed here tomorrow So I'm gonna be sewed here tomorrow I'm gonna be sewed And that's just what it is That's what it is because I'm huge And those girls just don't get it They just don't It's just because I'm really big So sorry girl Sorry you're so small

23:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah we're like lawyered up Like we have more than six lawyers We have like a lawyer for everything We even got the Lincoln lawyer Both Matthew McConaghy And the guy who plays him on Netflix Yeah, we got them all, okay Because I'm fabulous And I'm fine Am I sounding too braggy? But it's true I've done amazing things I've been in the same vicinity as Blake Lively That's pretty cool if you ask me

23:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we even used to have Janine Perrow But she was drinking all the Vita So we had to ask her to stop coming But still, lots of lawyers Huge Huge. So then we see a flashback where she's talking with Amy, the Utah socialite, that they give another chance to. And I'm telling you this. Amy tried it today. She said one thing today, which I was proud of Amy. But Amy, you're not messy enough. You're going to have to go. Amy looks horrified by this. I don't think Amy realized what she was getting involved with. She does. Amy looks horrified. Yeah. So we see a flashback to her hanging out with Amy. And she's like, yeah, you know what?

24:32Ronnie Karam: Like love this time of year Because up at Blue Sky Like that's my favorite property in Park City And like me You, Mary, Meredith And Heather, we're gonna go skate shooting Yeah, because then we're gonna have A great little lunch after And then for the party after Like I've invited other people that I don't like very much Because they're gonna be jealous That we were shooting at Blue Sky Yeah, they don't get you Because they don't do big things

25:01Ben Mandelker: Amy's like So they're gonna meet us Yeah you can't talk

25:04Ronnie Karam: You haven't been here long enough So I'm not gonna let you Finish the sentence Well that's really big Yeah you can't You can't talk Well it's Blake Lively though Blake Lively Um I Yeah that guy she's married to Ryan Reynolds Deadpan I love Deadpan It's such a good movie I think Tom Cruise Was gonna be in it But he was busy He was helping us With the absolute vita I thought we were gonna go to Why is she still talking? Who's this person?

25:33Ben Mandelker: So I won't be opening a social media account here.

25:36Ronnie Karam: Yes, done.

25:37Ben Mandelker: This isn't the same police guy.

25:39Ronnie Karam: Why is this conversation so dead? Yeah, you know it's big. Wait till you see what I have planned for lunch though, Amy, the socialite. Because I'm always the target. So it's time to switch it around. Okay, well.

25:53Ben Mandelker: It's over.

25:53Ronnie Karam: Turn off the cameras. Don't make me shoot with her again.

25:58Ben Mandelker: So then we go to Bronwyn and Todd and they're eating at Matteo restaurant Italiano and Bronwyn is they walk in and Bronwyn's like, so Todd, do you understand why I brought you here? Is it the early bird special? Cause I appreciate that. Well, no, but I, I thought we'd have our own nice little taste of Italy. No, I don't think so. More like taste of butt farts. That's what this place reminds me of. Okay, Todd, well, I'm just trying to make things right between us, so we're going to have pasta, Todd.

26:31Ronnie Karam: You like pasta, right? Right, Todd? She doesn't always say that. She goes, I wore dolce, which means we're having pasta. Oh, great. You're basically wearing 19 ,000 plates of pasta, Bronwyn. Great. Do they have

26:52Ben Mandelker: Spinachini Al Werther's original Todd they don't make Italian pasta sauce Out of Werther's original I bet they do if you try You just have to put some muscle into it

27:03Ronnie Karam: Todd I brought you to the place With the mushiest food in history Italian So she updates us on her life And a lot has changed in my house Yep, the Newport Bradley household, which is a new thing that we're going with, Newport Bradley, has totally flipped. Because the biggest takeaway from New York was Todd's willingness to see that people were saying about how he speaks to me and he acknowledges it. Which you'll notice in the scene as he crosses his arms right under his low-hanging nipples and stares at the exit the entire time. So we're really working on things. It's going great. It's great. Hi, we're Dolce.

27:42Ronnie Karam: We're eating pasta. I'm with Todd. Everything's fine.

27:47Ben Mandelker: And if I'm being honest, Todd's probably made more changes than I have made since the new year. I'm still the same old me. Okay, so what else is going on with Todd? Did you play a crossword puzzle today? What did you do all day? Oh, I just got made a couple of calls. I called the department of get off my lawn. But I got a busy signal, unfortunately.

28:08Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, you think I did? I got dressed in the Speedo, did some push-ups, tossed back some 40s with the bros. What do you think I did? I worked so you could wear some Dolce and eat some mushy pasta. You see, look at Todd. He's really come back charming, hasn't he? God, I love him. I just love Todd. Fun, light-hearted Todd. Dolce and pasta.

28:33Ben Mandelker: When do we get to go to the Connie Francis retrospective? After dinner, Todd. God. So Bronwyn talks about her dad and how she was visiting him and he has good days and bad days. And we find out that he has Alzheimer's, which is obviously very hard. And he's been suffering from it for many years. And then her mom had a brain tumor and she had surgery and she's fine. But now she has to live with them indefinitely.

29:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And she's feeling guilt because she was trying to have the parents at her house, but the dad was getting so bad and you know they had to put him in care basically memory care and Todd's like well you know he needs professional care and that's what you set up for him now he's gone so get over Bronwyn like he's just so gruff you know he's got this like gruff way of going about it um which I'm not sure but you know he's basically like we gotta have two people searching for the remote control in this house it's like oh geez Todd so um she talks about this which is crazy alzheimer's really is just a horrible disease it's just really it's really ugly and so this sucks that she's having to go through this and she's talking about how her mom had a brain tumor and she's going to be fine and recover the only thing that really isn't getting better on her is her eyebrows unfortunately but i don't think that they could do that in the hospital so um her mom stayed with her and we have to remember the history with her parents i mean they like disowned her and all that stuff when she was pregnant.

30:04Ronnie Karam: So, like, kind of, you know, I'm not rooting against them, especially the dad. I mean, he's got Alzheimer's and stuff, but I don't think anybody sees the mom come on the screen and is rooting for her. I'm actually rooting for Bronwyn to read her mother for filth on TV, because that's kind of what people do on Housewives where they're like, oh, really, mom? Well, have some scenes on the Housewives to show the audience what a monster you are, and then we can watch them come for you on Instagram and Facebook for the rest of your life. enjoy your karma mother.

30:33Ben Mandelker: So I'm all for it. That mom is not going to get read for filth because you're already bleeding by the time you're ready to read her. She's already stabbed you. Okay, I'm getting ready. It's like those moments where like the, you know, like the villain's about to kill you, like about to kill the protagonist. And then all of a sudden they stop it. And then like someone from behind has stabbed the villain through their stomach with a sword. It's like, that's, that's Bronwyn's mom. the problem is like ready to do the big read. It's like, Nope, your mom already got you. So your mom always beats you to the punch.

31:08Ben Mandelker: Your mom, listen, you don't, you don't get drag queen eyebrows without being quick with the, with the, with the tongue. So, um,

31:16Ronnie Karam: we see earlier eyebrows who belong to someone else. It's weird. Like they're, they're shaped like, you know, a divine, but they're like on a different face. They start in the middle of the eyebrow, like over here, like in the center of the eye, instead of... Okay, what am I trying to say? They start in the center of each eye instead of the center of the face, if that makes sense, right? So instead of starting here, right in the middle of your nose, they start in the middle of each eye and go like this. It's weird. It's an odd choice.

31:45Ben Mandelker: It's like when you make a Mii on your Nintendo and you can play around with the eyebrow location and you put everything in hockey places.

31:54Ronnie Karam: I'm going to put my eyebrows on my temples.

32:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. So we see a flashback and Bronwyn is talking to Meredith about her dad. And they're really bonding about this. And she's telling Meredith about how, you know, just about how tough this all is. And with Gwen and everything. And this was a bonding.

32:21Ronnie Karam: And Gwen's got the boyfriend living there. So she's running both a youth hostel and an elderly hostel. And she's basically just like, there are so many social security numbers up for grabs. It's crazy. It really is crazy. It's fun. It's like Halloween. My jack-o'-lanterns is full. My jack-o'-lanterns is full of social security numbers. So Meredith's like, well, that is insane. So they bond over the dad stuff. And then we come back to the president. And she's like, yeah, it was nice. You know, Meredith was saying we've known each other a long time. But we don't really know each other that well because she's friends with Lisa.

32:54Ronnie Karam: But, you know, we're not close. But this bonded us. It bonded us, Todd. Well, yeah, she sees you in a different light because what's going on, you know, it's not the friend group, whatever dynamics they can put on there. You know, now she sees. And she's like, yeah, you know, I talked to Meredith about that because she's close with Lisa. And, you know, it was just interesting to see that she's gone through what I've been through, you know. And people think in the end of the moment that it's really hard to come back from, you know. things that Lisa said to me. I just, I can never come back from it.

33:28Ronnie Karam: I can just never come back from it, Todd.

33:30Ben Mandelker: Well, I don't know why you bother with her at all. I mean, she doesn't even know the value of going to the five a dime and getting a vault, right? And Bronwyn's like, well, it just, it bothers me when people don't like me. Well, I got bad news for you. What's that?

33:48Ronnie Karam: Have you met me? Oh, Todd. It's like a lot of people don't like you, Bronwyn. You're the only person in the neighborhood that goes out to get the newspaper and they throw it at your head on purpose. No one likes you. This whole town hates you. No, they don't.

34:08Ben Mandelker: You know who I don't like? Spiro Wagner. That's who I don't like. And he never complained about that.

34:17Ronnie Karam: So she's like, what do you mean a lot of people don't like me? No one likes you, Bronwyn. okay they started putting up speed bumps on our street just so people could slow down enough while they're pointing out the window screaming we don't like you without hitting children on the street no one likes she's like geez todd it would be nice if i felt a little bit supported by who i don't like you either i can barely see me here supporting you is like supporting hubert humphries it's not gonna work out well for anyone so todd is like all the shit that lisa

34:57Ben Mandelker: lisa barlow drove you know is said about you and is really bad you it's unforgivable hilarious but

35:03Ronnie Karam: unforgivable completely unforgivable um when he tells she goes who doesn't like me he goes look at your facebook she goes okay well i don't use facebook but people do leave me mean comments on my Instagram if that's what you're referring to. He's whipping out Facebook.

35:23Ben Mandelker: I went down to the social club. No one likes you over there. I was speaking to the Masons. They hate you. There, I said it.

35:35Ronnie Karam: So, he's like, yeah. She goes, you know what? I can't help but overthink it, but I just want to fix it. I want to make it right. He's like, why? Why? Why do you want to fix it? It's like, because it's easier. It's just easier for everybody else. And that's just me. I just, I don't want to feel uncomfortable. I just want everyone to like me. That's me, Todd. That's me. It's like, look, get rid of it.

35:55Ben Mandelker: You can't fix things. You can't fix if people don't like you, okay? So what if there's a very active GeoCities community that doesn't like you? That's okay. Those things happen, okay? Because all the shit that Lisa Barlow drove and said about you, it's just unforgivable, okay? But how do I get to a place of she can loudly dislike me and it doesn't make me crazy? I doubt you do. Because you're so sensitive all the time. I said it.

36:23Ronnie Karam: And then we go to Angie and her dad, Louie's house, and she's brought him an orchid and some fruit. Now, here's my problem with Angie. Every time she feeds her dad, she's feeding him like lettuce and fruit. You better bring me a cookie. I've made it to 90 years old and you're bringing me fucking pineapple. you best get to the everything bunt the cake or what's that place called all but all bunt cake but bunt cake for life whatever the fuck it is call me kill call me bunt cake call me that would be my gay movie tell me maybe bunt cake

37:03Ben Mandelker: bunt bunt bunt bony by your bunt cake um yeah bunt mandelker

37:12Ronnie Karam: so yeah don't bring me fruit when i'm old don't even bring it to me now i'm old enough now that i can complain about people bringing me fruit i'm fruity enough bring me a cake or a cookie

37:22Ben Mandelker: and a fruit gift i can't stand it i don't just feel like it's so rude candy i think edible arrangements should be burned to the ground of all the like we watch all of these businesses close down borders books um various fast casual eateries that we've always enjoyed we watched them all go down and we're so sad and yet somehow edible arrangements survives who is doing this who are the people who decided they would rather spend their money on edible arrangements than border's books it's actually kind of a brilliant it's kind of a brilliant thing if

37:55Ronnie Karam: you think about it because there are so many people that you have to buy a little gift for that you just have kind of a seething resentment towards and that's what those are for i think the edible arrangements. When people send you an edible arrangement, they do not like you. Okay. They don't like you. They're like, I have to send them something. I'm going to send them fucking fruit in the shape of a bouquet. Okay. Yes. Stupid.

38:17Ben Mandelker: And also like, why, why is fruit the only edible arrangement there is? Can you, if you listen, if they made a bouquet out of cookies, I would be singing. Yes, exactly.

38:29Ronnie Karam: Like why is it only an iguana shaped out of croissants? that's something

38:33Ben Mandelker: make me a peacock out of a rice krispie treat that's actually very multiple there's just so many ways

38:38Ronnie Karam: you know what that's what we're gonna start I've been thinking of a business like we need to start a business and I think that's what we should do edible arrangements that aren't shitty that's the full name

38:54Ronnie Karam: call me by your edible arrangements that's not shitty let's do it I'm in I'm putting down the seed money $5. Whoever wants the first one, just come to us on Instagram. I'll send it to you. I'm so mad at them. I'm so mad at them.

39:12Ben Mandelker: Commercials. Here comes one right now.

39:18Ben Mandelker: I just like really, I never really articulated it until really just this moment that like we really have watched so many of our favorite institutions die over the years, right? How many of them have closed? Red Lobster was on the brink. Luckily, someone saved Red Lobster. But I mean, how many of our favorite stores are no longer with us? They're just gone. They even took the Old Navy out of the Beverly connection.

39:38Ronnie Karam: I mean, how am I supposed to live?

39:40Ben Mandelker: That's crazy. That's ridiculous. Malls are dying and boarded up. Everything is done. Everything is back. Joanne's Joanne fucking fabrics is dead. And yet edible arrangements still is alive. We have our priorities wrong as a nation. This isn't political. This is something we can all get behind. Let's not put our money into edible arrangements. Let's put it into Joanne fabrics and red lobster in places where that money deserves to be.

40:05Ronnie Karam: Well, they needed better advertising. Joanne's just needed to be like, do you have someone that you hate, but you have to buy a gift for? Get them polyester at Joanne's or something. Because the resentment is keeping that place alive. Okay, so Angie goes over to her dad's and she's like, my father is my first phone call in the morning. And my last phone call at the end of the night. He's 89 and it is a blessing. and he's like oh god she's always calling

40:34Ben Mandelker: just when i was about to fall asleep there goes my daughter calling saying did you fall asleep dad and i say yes and she goes i am greek and i said i know you're my daughter every day he asks

40:45Ronnie Karam: me where has borders books gone it was greek it was greek people don't realize the original name

40:56Ben Mandelker: of it was Bordacopalopolis.

41:03Ronnie Karam: So she just needs her daddy, you know, and she, you know, she needs her family. So she's calling him all the time. My dad would be like, you know, I don't have any money for you. Could you stop calling me? Like enough, you know, like I need maybe once a week, but this is, this is getting ridiculous. Do you need something? Do you need to tell me something? Why are you calling me again?

41:24Ben Mandelker: um so he found some old photos and of you know of of yesteryear and we see pictures of him when he was like 12 and everything and angie's looking and she's like look at how serious you guys were wow what was the camera slow was the camera slow or were you just serious because of your life like have you guys seen your photos on the bravo website you guys are looking like you're trying to stare down a vehicle have you seen you right now have you seen yourself in this scene

41:53Ronnie Karam: She's literally like, look at this photo. Yeah, I know. I understood the question, though, because back then they would be like, OK, stand there. Stand there. It's warming up. Don't smile. It's warming up. It's coming. And OK, hold on. We have to change the charge. OK, hold on. OK, light the string. OK, the string is fizzling over. It's coming closer to us. Light the string. It's dynamite powered.

42:27Ben Mandelker: I, it is funny, like old timey photos. Everyone is very serious in them. I want to know when people start to smile. It's probably some bullshit post-war thing that happened like in Levittown, Long Island. It's like, we've got a house. Now we've got to smile. But I do wonder when like better when they didn't smile.

42:42Ronnie Karam: I wish we, I wish we could normalize that again. I have a picture that we took at the mall or something when I was a little kid with my cousin, Matt. And it was one of those where you dress like a cowboy. And they take like an old timey picture of you and it's like sepia toned or whatever. And my mom had it hanging in her house forever. And it was just always my favorite picture of me because we weren't allowed to smile and we just look pissed off like these pissed off, dirty little cowboys. And I was like, maybe that was my time, except that you couldn't flush the toilet. And I'm real. I'm like a huge toilet flusher.

43:13Ronnie Karam: So I wouldn't want to live back then. But in general, bring back non smiling pictures. Well, guess what?

43:20Ben Mandelker: There is an answer to all of this. we really only started smiling in photos in the 1920s and 30s during the Great Depression.

43:30Ronnie Karam: Isn't that just so us?

43:33Ben Mandelker: It was during the happiest time in America when we were not allowed to touch alcohol. Famously a glorious time. Actually, it was a pretty fun time, the 20s. But yeah, it was the Great Depression. But apparently it was, according to Google, this was because of technological advancements. because of faster cameras. Also because of Kodak. Kodak came around. It was like, they had the invention of Kodak moments and they were like trying to tell people to be more joyful. So basically Kodak made us smile. And why people didn't smile in old photos? Here's three reasons. Long exposure times. Angie gets a point on that one.

44:11Ronnie Karam: And because her butts were all chapped with poop because they didn't have like toilet paper yet and flushing toilets. That's why.

44:18Ben Mandelker: Who, were you going to smile? It was also serious social norms because portraits, whether painted or early photographs, were often seen as serious formal affairs, similar to grand painted portraits that typically did not feature smiles. And finally, and this is a strong one, dental hygiene. Poor dental health was common. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I can see that. It's like the Jon Hamm. Yeah, if you try to cover your teeth while you're smiling, you just look like you're smiling.

44:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's like the Sealy from The Color Purple or the Jon Hamm thing where Jon Hamm, like, everyone's like, oh, he's just a serious actor. That's why he never smiles. But then he laughs and he's got, like, little tiny baby teeth. And I think that's why he doesn't smile. Yeah. It's teeth shame. But I think ultimately Angie was correct because it is slow camera times. You see, that was one of the reasons. So, nailed it. She's really on top of it. Just that she says it. But with the camera slow, were you just serious because of your life?

45:19Ben Mandelker: And he's like, yeah. He's like, because it was a tough life. You know, there was nothing to smile about. We lived through war and hunger and cold. Why would we suddenly smile now? Right? It's ridiculous. So she's like, remind me of when the soldiers came into your village. How old were you? He's like, oh, well, I thought this was going to be a nice little tea time. But sure, I'll talk about the trauma of my childhood.

45:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he's like, can I enjoy my fucking pineapple? i mean jesus he's like all right let's talk about the germans again here's angie coming over to talk about the fucking germans again i like i like how he's like oh you you mean the germans no we're

45:55Ben Mandelker: talking about the aliens from starship troopers dad come on we're on tv time is money tell your

46:02Ronnie Karam: war story he was seven and um they took everything they burnt everybody's house i mean this is fucking terrible and angie's like did you witness that though at that age well what do you think it was at the movies yes he witnessed it they burned down the whole village angie and he's like he's

46:21Ben Mandelker: like well but there wasn't much stuff to burn because you know we didn't have any furniture or stuff like that so you know it wasn't really that it's like it wasn't that horrible oh my god but what's crazy to me about this was i was shocked that he was that he is that old in the sense that like i thought this was a guy in his like late 70s but the fact that he is that guy looks hot as fuck i mean he was 90 years old that guy's hot like what the hell for real i mean like the fact that he was seven and this is like a world war ii memory i mean that's like i was i was pretty surprised we don't see too many parents on bravo who are who have that kind of experience you know like i mean yes todd was around during you know world war one but like aside from him i mean like very few have been around since like that age most of them are i feel like most of the parents we see are from like the 60s so this is really surprising yeah so i was just surprised

47:22Ronnie Karam: like she's so hot so um angie is you know it's a touching scene and stuff and he talks about coming coming to America and how, so when they were, when they got their tickets and they were coming over, someone said, where's your suitcase? And he said, I'm wearing, I'm wearing everything I own. And Angie's like, I'm wearing everything I own too. And he's like, yeah, you need to stop doing that every time you leave the house. It's just like, what happened to jeans and a nice sweater? You know what I mean?

47:52Ben Mandelker: I am grateful because some of my biggest concerns of the day are, Oh, I need to go get micro needling so it heals up in time for my next event. Oh, I need to start rolling now so I can get off of this giant mattress in time to get to my next event. Oh, I need to put on giant sunglasses so my face will be protected in time for my next event. And meanwhile, my dad is sharing these stories that put things into perspective for me. And it is a wake up call from Greece.

48:20Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but you know what? I don't want you to minimize all the stuff that you're talking about either because that stuff is important too. and you can't think that people were going to war and having all of this horrible things happen and there wasn't a moment in the day where they were like, I've really got to do something about my angry 11s because you know what? When that shit hits you, it doesn't matter what's going on in the outside. You're still like, why are my pores so big?

48:43Ben Mandelker: I actually really firmly believe that everyone's entitled to be annoyed by stupid shit. It doesn't take away from the big shit that people have to deal with. It's not like I would never equivocate them, but I think that you're like, if you can't find your phone charger, like you're allowed to be like legitimately annoyed and you're allowed to be like, I can't find my phone charger. I'm so annoyed. I think you're allowed to express your emotional state to your friends. What you can't do is you can't, if your friend says, oh my God, the Nazis just burned down my village and I'm so upset. And then you can be like, I get it because I can't find my phone charger.

49:16Ben Mandelker: Like that you don't do, but you're still like, you shouldn't feel guilty about the fact that you're annoyed about something in your life.

49:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Annoying petty things are always going to bother you no matter what's going on outside. Like they announced that the government's gonna, they're gonna send the government to California to keep law, or whatever the fuck they're doing now. Today's fucking crazy news. And I read it and I was like, I really don't like the new icons on this iPhone. And I was like, what am I more mad about? Like, I really need to get my priorities in shape. But I was like, but I really don't like the icons either. So, I mean, I don't know. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know. You're allowed to be annoyed at all the above.

49:51Ronnie Karam: And yeah, I can be annoyed at what I want to. So they talk about this and they talk about how proud they are to be Greek. And she's, she gets so excited when she sees Crete and he's like, oh yeah, Crete. That's, that's a good one. She's like, yeah, I felt like it was my home too. I love Crete. I love Crete. And he's like, yeah, well, you know, of course you love it because that's your roots. And I'm like, dad, please don't mention roots. Okay.

50:18Ben Mandelker: Sorry. I am a hair professional. so she's like I just feel so connected to the culture to the people to the history and I want to pass that same love for being Greek down to Electra and I want her to have the same passion and feelings that I do because it's influenced me in my life and I want to influence her in her life which is why every morning before she goes to school I give her a plate to throw on the floor cut to Electra

50:43Ronnie Karam: fuck being Greek I'm sick of it damn Electra geez so they hug that was a nice little scene. So then we go over to Bronwyn's. It was actually such a time.

50:52Ben Mandelker: I actually got choked up during it. I'm not going to lie. I thought it was so sweet and lovely. And I felt like that. I feel like Angie is actually very emotionally honest about her family and their struggles in a way that I find very affecting. So I liked it. So then we go to Bronwyn's house. Now we go from Angie and her dad to Bronwyn and her mom, Marge, aka Muzzy. By the way, you don't have to even tell me her name is Marge. The eyebrows say it. If I see those eyebrows, I say, this is a lady named Marge. who somehow, like, in this weird, everything, everywhere, all at once timeline, managed to not be a dineratress.

51:27Ben Mandelker: Somehow she's doing this instead.

51:30Ronnie Karam: You know what's super weird? I call my mom Muzzy. Really? Yeah, I didn't realize that her mom. Because that's March's nickname. Well, I call her Muzzy. You know, like, hello, Muzzy. And then that turns into Muzzy. Like, hey, Muzzy. Muzzy. That's weird. So Bronwyn offers to get her drinks and stuff. And Bronwyn's, you know, really trying. She's like, Mom, Mom. She's like, Mom's just seething on the couch. Mom, would you like a beverage? And she's like, from the fridge. Would you like one? Because I can get you one, Mom. Drink. And she's like running off trying to make her mom happy. I was like, oh, no, this is not going to go well.

52:11Ronnie Karam: She's like doing the Kermit the Frog run in the background, going from the kitchen to the hallway. Like, Mom. Mom is so dissatisfied.

52:18Ben Mandelker: and what's funny is that the mom you would think the mom would be like hey toots looking at her face you think she'd say hey toots what's going on but she actually has like a like a scary high pitch voice she's like well brown when she's like she's like so what's going on mom you must be exhausted yes because i got up too early today i was like i was not expecting that voice whatsoever

52:38Ronnie Karam: and brown was like um do you feel like you got everything done at the house that you wanted to do while you were there at the house packing up? She's like, no. I still have stuff there. She's just giving her this look. Oh my God. I was scared. And I can deal with a tough mother. Well, the mom clearly disproved of all the furniture.

52:56Ben Mandelker: The mom was like, she has all this money and this is how she spends it on this terrible velvet furniture? Okay. That's fine. That's fine. I wish I had that money. I would spend it on more eyebrow treatments, but that's okay. Everyone spends their money when they want to. She's never been to the child with great

53:11Ronnie Karam: judgment has she i mean if you're gonna spend your money you should be spending it on um the science of shrinking your eyebrows down to the size they were when you were five but you know she's just gonna do what she's gonna do because that's bronwyn so bronwyn tells us that the moms have been going back and forth to northern cali to go through the process of getting rid of all their stuff, selling through stuff from her childhood home. And so Muzzy's like, well, there were some things there, Bronwyn, that I've not opened in 25 years. You know, things like from daddy's office. That was emotional.

53:52Ronnie Karam: Oh, so you're going through daddy's stuff? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Did you find anything in there about me? Please don't say it on camera. Please don't do this to me, mother. She's giving her this look. I'm like, why are you shooting with your mother? And then I remembered it's the great revenge of the real housewives commence. Yeah.

54:09Ben Mandelker: Well, this part of the scene I thought was actually like very affecting, uh, because the mom is basically saying like, I'm throwing out stuff, but I feel really conflicted because like I'm throwing away his stuff and he's not there to say like, Hey, don't throw that out. Or this means something. So she's like, I was like, Oh, this is so sad. I thought with those eyebrows, this woman was going to come out and be so mean to Bronwyn. But instead, she's telling a really sad story. And I was like, aw, little did I realize that she was just, you know, she was just getting us already. She's saving it up.

54:46Ronnie Karam: She was just getting warmed up there. So Bronwyn tells us about Alzheimer's and how terrible it is to go through that. and it's hard on her, but it's got to be really hard on her mom because that's her best friend and her partner and stuff. So she's like, you know, daddy doesn't remember adult me. And she's like, no, he thinks you're going right now. So he's really worried that you're not going to finish college. You're going to get knocked up. You need to go to school, et cetera. It's nice to see him disappointed all over again. That really filled his belly with fun times. That was great, Bronwyn.

55:20Ronnie Karam: Bronwyn's just like, well, you know, it's like he's reliving it with me. right mom like he was just so worried about me and all these things a year to go years ago and you know Gwen's at that age you know and uh he does I don't know it's like he superimposed me on top of I don't know what's going on she goes yeah I think since yesterday because after she went to get something from the room he said why isn't she in school tell her she's not in school

55:45Ben Mandelker: she can get the hell out of my goddamn house oh well I just yeah that's great and um I just feel like, I don't know, I feel like dad just wanted better out of me. You know what I mean? Well, you feel like you're not good enough, like you're not worthy because if you feel that way, then we failed because we didn't make it clear enough that it's not just a feeling that you should know you're not good enough and you're not worthy. That's it.

56:08Ronnie Karam: So she's like, well, you know, mom, I did take a longer route to maybe get to where I was going. And you said that, you said that, you know, you said it's been a really long time and you, you know, Bronwyn, you really had to figure out what you wanted to do. And you had to really, you know like you said circle the drain a few times you know you know how you always talked about me circling the drain just failing for really really really long time mother remember

56:30Ben Mandelker: that yeah yeah but you know what guess what you couldn't have gotten there without todd either because he couldn't get there without a dime oh really you don't really have a lot of skills or talent or uh you you don't have any you don't have any of the things that i guess most people would have or need in order to get ahead in life unless you attach yourself to uh some old guy really

56:49Ronnie Karam: Muzzy, I would watch my fucking mouth right now because you're living off her and Todd's money. Like, it's fine for you to take all this money and live in her house and do all this shit. You don't get to come in here and be an asshole to her and shame her on the TV. And don't make me get defensive for Bronwyn. But I did not like this Muzzy, okay?

57:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And she's like, well, you know, you need to talk. She's like, yeah, well, mom, I don't love you saying that, that I needed Todd to get me there. Well, I mean, you needed Todd to support you, right? Right. I mean, those that queer man's dresses don't don't pay for themselves. Right. OK.

57:24Ronnie Karam: Goodbye. Have fun at the home, Muzzy, because you'd be out of there in two fucking seconds. How dare you? Watch your fucking mouth, lady. So Bronwyn's like, well, sadly, this is not the first night comment that my mom has made. And I think that, you know, I just really need approval from her. I just want approval. Everyone wants approval from their parents. Yeah. I would want an apology letter. Get her the fuck out of here. What a toxic fucking person. And I know she's going through a lot of stuff, but you can listen. Bronwyn got had all that stuff go down when she got pregnant, when she was 19.

57:54Ronnie Karam: She had no support from these people. And now you're still shaming her for it years later. It's like the woman's living in a mansion. She can't do anything right for you. And I think she should stop trying. Get rid of Muzzy. Down with Muzzy. That's what I say.

58:09Ben Mandelker: So she's like, well, I hope you're going to be OK doing this because, you know, you're you're going to be doing it with Todd soon enough. I was like oh my god mom she was like it's like Muzzy that's I mean that's dark I mean okay like I take a lot of Todd's old comments from other people but the call doesn't need to be coming from inside my house oh is the Palm Pilot working again Todd it's an expression no phone calls for coming from inside the house

58:35Ronnie Karam: yeah that was that was pretty low it was so savage like oh my god do you have a lot of money might I suggest a wood chipper for fuck's sake

58:47Ben Mandelker: Muzzy was like so sweet and emotional and then just comes right on in and is like

58:54Ronnie Karam: she was never sweet you know she's going through something so she's sad and she has a right to be sad but she's also an asshole you know and I think that it's important to like kind of know that line with people like you going through something doesn't give you the right to be an absolute fucking monster fuck you lady horrible horrible horrible This is horrible, Heather Gay would say. It's horrible. Horrifying. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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1:00:18Ronnie Karam: Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey B. Que sera, sera, whatever will be, will Lauren Sills be. She gets an A from us, it's Lindsay D. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. We love her on the rocks, it's Melissa Cox. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the Berg.

1:00:40Ben Mandelker: This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian.

1:00:43Ronnie Karam: I love-a-ya, Olivia Williamson. Tastier than Flanderson, it's Rachel Manderson.

1:00:48Ben Mandelker: She sure is swell, it's Raquel.

1:00:51Ronnie Karam: Yes, we canna, it's Sadana.

1:00:53Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. Darn Skippy, it's Tippi.

1:00:59Ronnie Karam: And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP, it's Amanda V. Can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin.

1:01:06Ben Mandelker: Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD.

1:01:09Ronnie Karam: We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O 'Neill. Put us on a stretcher. It's Charlotte Fletcher. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily sides.

1:01:22Ben Mandelker: Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland.

1:01:25Ronnie Karam: Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs. It's our queen. It's Queen Laifa.

1:01:30Ben Mandelker: Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Hail the cork master, the master of the cork, Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish. It's Jen Plish. She's not harsh, she's Jill Hirsch My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo We love him madly, it's Kyle Pod Chadley In the study, with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock Gee, it's Lisa H We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy Always killing it, it's Low Alkalani

1:01:58Ronnie Karam: The incredible edible Matthews sisters She eases our woes, it's Melissa St. Rose There's a chance of meatballs, it's Rebecca Cloud Neat, it's Ronit Feldman

1:02:08Ben Mandelker: Maximum love for Sandy Maximoska She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke We cannot tell a lie, it's Sarah Tell of Sun Shannon, out of a cannon, Anthony Please don't stop, it's Soli and Pop Let's take off with Tamla Plain She ain't no shrinking Violet Kuchar

1:02:25Ronnie Karam: We love you guys