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6 Oct 2025 · 47m

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#3025 RHOP S10E01 Part 2: Breath of the Wild

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0:21Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part 2 of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part 1 was, well go check in the feed and subscribe. subscribe so that way you always get your episodes but enough of that let's get right back into the episode um so stacy's like well i don't think that divorce should ever be celebrated but i'm not ashley and it also didn't take me 10 years to get divorced so she's in a different place than me i'm a fast divorcer and everyone knows it um so uh you also weren't fighting for money though stacy because as I recall from your divorce, you were like, I don't care.

0:57I don't need any money. Surely he'll keep providing. Exactly. Dummy. Yeah. And also maybe you weren't ever really getting divorced. I don't know what the story is with her at this point. Yeah, exactly. So she asked about the boys and everything. And then Nash is like, you know, last time that we saw each other, it got a little tense. And, you know, and I understand why you left. It was probably pretty embarrassing for you to show up in the same car as someone else in our group. It's mortifying. but I just, I really wish you hadn't left. And Stacey's is like, well, I just felt like I was being ganged up on.

1:29Do you think it was too harsh? I'm just asking because you said you understood why I left. And now she's like, well, the thing is like just a few days before we went, you know, we were, you know, Giselle and I, we went to this Essence Black Women in a Hollywood luncheon and there was someone there and well, she's an actress. So pause for respect and admiration. Okay, yeah, we spoke to an actress. and she was like, I gotta talk to you. And Stacey's like, okay. And she proceeds to show me screenshots of like legal documents that say that, you know, you're the defendant and that TJ is a plaintiff.

2:02So I'm like, is he actually trying to sue Stacey? I don't even know what to say to that. Okay, so it's true. Yes. That's crazy. Stacey, okay. What I'm saying is you're not going to maintain to me that you're telling the truth, like you're being truthful. And she's like, I'm telling you everything i have told you has been the truth but i can't talk about someone who brought you i mean this is just ridiculous do you want to know the real truth ashley yes yes i forgive tj

2:37oh my god so good like the way she tees up a tees up a fake reveal this is twice in one episode I have forgiven TJ and he has gone on with his life and I am a completely new space I'm like you know if he is suing you it's not like you don't get to say you've forgiven him and therefore it's over no he has to forgive you if he's suing you if he's suing you no I'm just saying the logic is that like if someone says I heard that someone's suing you and you're like it's okay because I forgive him I forgave him yeah court dismissed Case dismissed. I forgave him. So, yeah, pretty much it. Ashley's like, it's just really hard to talk to you while you're eating a lollipop made out of, is that a dead fish?

3:27Got a snack. I've just got a snack, Ashley. You know, listen, I've forgiven TJ and I'm not going to rehash and go back and forth about an imaginary friend and imaginary documents. And she's like, oh, really? So there's nothing imaginary about her. she is very much in the flesh Nell Carter, that's her name Nell Carter, that's who it is Nell Carter died, this is the epitome of an imaginary friend, she is not with us anymore Fine, Jack A. Harry I said it, Jack A. Harry has the goods on TJ Okay I don't even know who that is What do you mean you don't know who that is? Oh, Mary You don't know who that is?

4:06Oh, who's Mary? I don't even know who these people are It's literally the sitcom that took place in D.C. Do you not realize this? I come from our neighborhood. I don't understand. Oh, I'm currently dating Lester. Does that count for anything? Wait a minute. Hold on, I need to Venmo Lester. Hold on, give me a second. Hold on, I'm getting a call from Calvin. One second.

4:35So Asher's like, this is why everyone thinks that you're fake. And she's like, well, let me tell you this. She's like, well, and this is why K is calling you fake. And this is why girls think this. And I'm trying to understand. She goes, well, I don't think if you, I don't care if you think that I'm fake. And so Ashley's like, well, so you're just going to lay and wait until someone potentially comes out, until it potentially comes out, right? She goes, I am not going to lay and wait. I have been living a beautiful life with Arabella and my ex. We just went to a very interesting Indian Moroccan fusion restaurant.

5:05They put a tagine lid on my head, which I did not appreciate, but it's their art. And I'm not going to say no to their art. well you know what um she goes yeah i've been living a beautiful life she goes oh okay well in the event that he doesn't come forward just well that's new information for you it's not new for me it doesn't matter what anyone says and if you want to keep talking about this i will leave gilda gilda's like yes great being part of this conversation ladies i just love seeing you out does anyone want that snack? I got some Mott's applesauce. Ash is like I just want you to be honest.

5:44Wait a minute before you leave I just want you to know that Lester says that you owe him some money. I don't even know who Lester is. Who is this woman? That's Pearl from 227. Hey Pearl, do you have any evidence on your phone? She probably would. That's someone I would believe. Pearl would believe. Pearl would totally have that. She's like you love it like pearl's got the goods i love pearl so um right p helen martin ashley is like um so wait just be honest are you actually divorced she goes oh i am absolutely divorced from this conversation wait a minute but why isn't it in any databases i actually searched the databases of the state of virginia because it's not anybody's business to know where it is but it's public that's how it happens well i don't do that i don't have to divorce in public or with the government or let anyone know or even get divorced but wait a minute you want to see if i'm divorced because it's clear as day it's in the virginia database and ashley's like yeah if you search me it's very public that i'm divorced but i couldn't find stacy to save my soul and But then also, like, why can't you, why aren't you also looking up TJ's lawsuit in public databases?

7:04That's what's confusing to me. Well, that's true. Yeah, Ashley's so concerned about, like, how this all works. That's true. It would show up in the public database. See it all the way through, girl. So Ashley's like, yeah, how is... Yeah, what even if you're suing civilly, right? Even if, yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Because Google is still governmental. I feel like I should be out there. So Stacey tells us, I mean, why does she have time to Google about me? like she needs to be googling a voice coach okay and then we see uh all those headlines from when ashley sang this made me lol i was dying because when they put all the headlines of ashley just like crashing and burning doing the roberta flack thing and then coming back and being like wait a minute that was just a bad day i couldn't hear the band i'm gonna do it again killing me softly with

7:56I mean, she should not be worried about my husband or my marriage or Arabella. If we are supposed to be friends, I just don't understand. Why wouldn't she just ask me? I'm like, she's literally asking you right now. And it's one on one. I don't like liars except for Giselle. Well, do you know that I'm a liar? She goes, well, I don't know that you're not a liar. Okay. Well, once you speak to your imaginary friend, who is very real, she vacuumed a fish out of a fish tank and was also in Lady Bugs with Rodney Dangerfield. Well, I don't care. You're making it sound like I'm misbehaving. You ain't misbehaving.

8:38Anyway, listen, I don't want to hear about this anymore. No, Carter Jack, ain't Harry. It's a real person.

8:46Look, I don't care about this. if you can show me these documents, then we can rekindle our friendship. It's like, okay, then Stacey, you can take a pause. You'll have to walk off. And so Stacey is like, of course, going to storm off again. And that's exactly what she does. Yeah. And so Ashley is like, what is she running from? I should be running after she blew that hot ass breath in my face.

9:11He'll just like, tell me about it.

9:16Oh, gosh. So now Giselle is just walking around her house going, I feel so pretty. Look at me. Oh, let's look at the hair today. Oh, yes, hair. Oh, yes. And she's like, I'm so happy being alone. And then we just see Giselle doing alone things like looking at her phone on her bed and then calling herself pretty in the mirror. I mean, I get it. I live alone. Giselle. And I do walk around doing that. Like, God, I love this. the last like two or three years have been storylines of Giselle's daughters going off to college. And now the storyline is her daughters have gone to college. So, uh, we're getting incremental progress on Giselle's boring home scenes.

9:57Yeah. Love it. So, um, she tells us our typical day in her life is working out, working on projects that she's working on reasonably shady GNA. Do I have time for men? Yes, I do. Giselle has been in the streets. So now she calls Ashley and they're talking about the bloom party. It's time to bloom. We gotta bloom. We're blooming. Yeah, and she's like, it's gonna be a Cinderella's ball but also blooming, but also Cinderella. So she's like, oh, I love that. And she says, I think I might bring my friend Tia. She's super sweet and a real British person, so you'll love her. We're gonna have a fabulous time.

10:37so she invited stacy but she's not sure she's going to happen because things blew up and um she's she does an imitation of her she's like ashley darby i've never lied oh and uh she's like yeah she says that that was an imaginary person with an imaginary document and jazelle's like no ma 'am no ma 'am and ashley's like like what i'm really trying to understand is like what like what are you about are you even divorced like you know i couldn't even find it in the database or anything and giselle's like this bitch isn't even divorced she's like so now we go to kierna and kierna is visiting new housewife angel uh we meet her husband bobby who i know that's a phone in his pocket but i could not i was like i need to run this just to watch he was like swinging around in that pocket like i know he was like sitting on the counter and his pants were like all and then he like jumped off the counter and everything like balanced and i you know i went back i was like let's let's examine that for a moment bobby it's like literally the shape of a giant phone and i was still like that's hot he's also like 10 feet tall and i was like bobby so then uh kierna's like i love me some angel like me and angel been friends for a very long time and apparently they've been friends since they were 18 and they've worked together and everything and Angel was her client and then they worked at BET and all this stuff.

12:04And so this is like Kiana's big find is Angel. So Angel says that the biggest misconception about her is that people think she's a bitch because she has a resting bitch face, but she's a girl's girl. She serves matcha tea to her guests and she has wellness retreats. So... Yeah, she's a Maryland girl, but they moved to Colorado because bobby was with the broncos but now bobby's back and uh they're just like happy to be back in the dmv because this is their home also they could be on tv yeah so they go hiking yeah they go hiking and uh well not really hiking kind of walking down at a path behind the houses or whatever and then um she talks about her business wonderland outdoors which is basically luxury outdoor experiences, which is an oxymoron, if you ask me.

12:57Walk around in a mosquito-invested nature. Full agreement over here. Yeah, no, thank you. But she loves meditation and mindfulness, which leads me to believe that she's going to be crazy because I don't know anybody into meditation and mindfulness that's not a nutcase. And if you're out there being offended right now, you know that it's true because... think about your inner voice, what it's telling you. Why do you need to meditate? Because you want to do it. You need to meditate so much. Think about it. What led you there? What got you to that place? What took you to that place? And I say this as someone who is sort of like into yoga these days.

13:40But look, I mean, hey, I'm a bitch. Yoga is different. And also, I think it's probably projecting because I do meditate and every time I try to meditate is because I'm like being horrible or like I have some like deep seated issue. And I just, it's so hard to meditate, like to just sit there. I do laugh at all. Like, I mean, I like, I'm really, I really enjoy yoga, but I do laugh at all the things. Like if you have this in your practice, feel free to do this and think about the earth and what the earth gives and we're in our sixth season and I always am like, just tell me where, how to stand. You're like, God, just let me bend far enough to blow myself, please.

14:22It's the only reason I'm here. I'm like, just please tell the hot guys to take off their shirts already. We're 20 minutes in. Can we get some Kundalini up in this bitch? Thank you. It is pretty funny. I don't know if this is sort of a universal yoga thing, but definitely in Hollywood where there's like all these hot guys who go to the yoga classes, like within like a minute, they're always like oh it's hot and they all take off their shirts it's like i mean it's great for those of us who like to look but it's also hilarious because they just they clear they just always want to show off it's it's fun well shit i'd go to yoga if i knew it was going to be like that i'd be the one like with an oversized t-shirt in the back probably with a floaty around my waist like it's not even a pool i'll put sunscreen on i'll be like oh i'm just here to relax you guys go ahead i'm the one with like a little puddle of sweat by my foot slipping in sliding and like for some reason i'm always the one where like when the like i'm like i'm not i never go in the front row because i don't need people to see me in my bad form but then it's like the the we rotate somehow i'm always like in the front like when there's like a rotation it's like okay do this pose and i'm like flopping over and losing my balance and i'm just i'm always the worst one in the class but well you know what that's called the practice for a reason It takes practice.

15:42So Angel, so they're gossiping and they're talking about the ladies and who they like and who they don't like. And Angel's like, oh, you know, the funny story about Ashley, she was my bottle girl. She used to be my bottle girl. Yeah. And Kieran is like, yeah, I can see that. She's got bottle girl energy.

16:05It's a funny thing to remember. I guess did she, is the implication that when she says my bottle girl, did she have events and she would hire Ashley or was she running a restaurant? I don't know. She says it L2, but I don't know what that is. So L2 must've been a club. Oh, and we see pictures of Ashley as a bottle girl. And Angel says that she knows Wendy from college because she was roommates with her college big sister. and so she doesn't know her very well which is I like that she's like I don't really know her but I know you know I don't know her well but I know her and because of course Wendy's gonna try and be shady about it later and this girl's like yeah I don't care about bragging that I know Wendy who the fuck cares I saw Wendy and I like how she describes her she goes yeah I definitely remember Wendy in school she was the one walking down the quad in suits yeah I so see Wendy being one wearing suits in college.

17:06So Kierna now is going to launch her storyline for the season. She says, you know, she's like, you know, we've had this year in general. And I feel like there's been lots of microaggressions. So she's like, recently I was like in LA and like at the NAACP awards. And she kind of got like weird about saying she was actually going to even going, even though she knew I was going. and she explains that like, um, she recently, she was at an event and she's like, and you could see me coming in because she was already seated. So anyway, I sit down and I'm waiting for her to turn around and like, say like a little something and I got nothing.

17:41So, which is a different story than later on the issue. There's actually, I guess there's a series of these. There was the NAACP thing. There's this where they were at a seated event and Wendy, I guess, didn't turn around to say hello. And then there's the issue that comes up later on about sponsorship and speaking. Well, this is weird because even this one, even how we're hearing it now, I was at an event. You could see me coming in because she was already seated. So anyway, I sit down. Okay. So you saw her seated and you didn't walk up to her and say hello. That's weird. I wouldn't sit down and wait for somebody to get up and come say hi to me.

18:17You see how I am at a party. If I see somebody I know, I walk right up to them and say hi. And then I go sit down. I'm going to go sit down and then like do a wait off with people. That's so weird. You were standing up. It was up to you to go walk over and say hello. I agree. I also think that like in general, if you walk into a room and there's someone that you're hoping says hi to you, you have the ability to go and say hi to them instead. Like you don't have to like make it into a, into a test. Yeah. But that being said, because you're just going to stress yourself out over it. Yeah. But that being said, like Wendy is a bit of an asshole.

18:49And I think Wendy's like, okay, I spent all of last year trying to do like, have like a nice edit and pretending like I like this girl. And now I'm off camera. I don't have to do it anymore. I'm not going to say hi to her. But at this point, honestly, I was actually on Kieran's side. I was like, despite the fact that she should have gone and said hi to Wendy, I was like, I can see Wendy being cold and like not feeling good. So I was like, yeah, we've heard it before from other housewives, right? about wendy so for that reason i was like okay i could see wendy being like that but the way she told the story i was like no i'm gonna i'm gonna go on team wendy for this one because she should have walked up to her and say hi um but that's you know that's just right now it changes a million times over the course of the episode right i was about to say like this is my reaction right now guys guys this could be a real time um experience for us you're gonna see exactly how our emotional reaction changes to the storyline.

19:41This is also my favorite thing about Real Housewives in particular is that this is what you worry about on these shows. Like, oh my God, she walked into a party who should have said hi first. I love those discussions. I love it because it's actually so real. I think it's so real. And this is, again, I'm going to get on the soapbox because who cares. But this is why I can't stand when people who don't watch these shows kind of like brush it off as like, ugh, isn't that just like women bickering? I'm like, yes, but it's actually also people talking about the shit that we all talk about because like we all have those moments where like, I just had one the other night.

20:24I had one the other night where I went out to dinner with a friend and ran into another person and I felt like that other person was like really kind of ignoring me and I had to engage with them for them to sort of engage with me. and it was still nice, but I was like, that person was like icing me out a little bit. What, weren't they? And then my friend was like, no, I don't think so. But like that was something that was on my mind and that was something that we talked out a little bit. And then like, it ultimately was, it was not a big deal, but like it was something we talked out. And so like when you watch these shows, people are talking about the shit that we talk about.

20:56And so I hate so much when people dismiss it like it's not prestigious enough. I'm sorry. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we're not watching a chef stare out into the sunset while he ponders his own artistic qualities i'm sorry that we're talking about shit that all of us talk about sorry sorry soapbox sorry okay it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

21:25uh so now let's go to the second bloom with ashley the second bloom ball okay lots of fake flowers everywhere it's you know i guess nice and um they're talking all the housewives are like what the fuck is this thing and wendy's like second boom is it annual and i don't get it did we miss the first one yeah ashley is like now that karen's not there ashley's trying to pick up the uh torch of the nonsensical uh party for herself uh thing so giselle's like uh yeah I'm confused because let's just have a party. Let's just say that we're getting divorced. We're excited and happy. Let's just do that. So Ashley's saying how there's so many people coming and she just wants everyone to see her sprawled out on the stairs.

22:16There's a lot of staircase stuff that happens on Potomac. How many parties do we see? Everything's five stories there on the East Coast. How many parties have people coming down the stairs? but we get that when we go there everywhere we go there when we whenever we go visit there and it's a great place by the way it's a great city but it's all stairs like what the hell that whole city is built on stairs it's crazy there remember that time we went to an after party or something after one of our shows they're like oh it's just right down the street it was not down the street it was like a mile away and then we got there and it was like three stories up only walking I was dying.

22:55Too much. Too much. I was dying. And it was summer. It was crazy. So, yeah, it's a lot of stairs there. So, it's typical. Here we are at a Real Housewives of Potomac party with stairs. So, people are coming in and we meet Tia. She comes with Giselle. And she met her at a Sotheby's event. She's a very high-end realtor. Okay. and Tia was just selling a$6.4 million home. And we bonded over raising twins. She's a refined lady. If you're going to cuss somebody out, you at least cuss them out with, like, subject-verb conjugation. This is a woman who knows what dubious means. Ooh, I am prim and proper, darling.

23:42If I were a Spice Girl, I'd be posh spice. I definitely had some Rolls Royces growing up. And we see pictures. She does come from wealth, which is always exciting for me. She's like, I'm from London, but my family is part of the royal family in Nigeria. And then we see her grandfather, who is in like a wig, which I love. And she's like, I am a princess. Where's my tiara? Where's my tiara? Can someone bring it? No, I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Not really. Where's my tiara? Anyone? So they come in, and there's a random lady there dressed in a big flower dress and posing. And Giselle's like, what are you doing, Bridgerton?

24:20What is this? She's like, it's a spring theme. I'm not allowed to talk. It's like, yes, yes it is. Then we see Sharice. We all love some Sharice cameo. Sharice always looks like she just came from a very humid environment. Hello. Her hair was nice, but it's always sort of like flopped down right on her face. And she's like, oh, hello. Love the accent. Is that a pun? Is that a pun? And then Kierna and Angel come and everybody's saying hello and meeting each other. And Giselle met this chick already. She met Angel already. And they bonded because Giselle has a daughter named Angel. Okay. So now Stacey comes in and she's like, the Lord never ceases to amaze me about how he inspires me to be the bigger person.

25:17I'm so impressed with the Lord that he made me go to the television event that I'm supposed to go to I love that she is somehow like adding a layer of like divine intervention to why she's going to the second bloom party no the Lord spoke to me and said you better go you better go to that party and enjoy a free cocktail from a lady dressed like a flower even after the way that Ashley treated me. I'm choosing to show up for Ashley because this is an opportunity for us to reset and take a step forward. Excusez-moi. So Stacy comes in. She meets Tia and Angel and Kierna but she's like, ignores Kierna because the Lord didn't tell her she had to actually be nice.

26:04She didn't have to reset with Kierna just with Ashley. So Kierna waves like, hey, hi, hi. She's like, oh. And she's like, oh, you didn't say hi a cage nice to meet you it's like very cold so they're gonna have a nice little beef this season and wendy sees angel and goes and gives her a hug and she's like oh a familial face so yay do you remember angel while you were at temple she's like uh no i don't know her familiar face yes but same circle no dun dun dun wendy always cracks me up with this shit because that was her storyline the first season, it was Karen being exactly this way to her. And being like, oh, so we're on a board?

26:43I don't know her. We're not friends. And her being like, we serve on boards together. And now she's doing the same thing. The student becomes the teacher. Absolutely. So then an announcement. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second Bloom Ball. Without further ado, please direct your attention to witness the blossom of Duchess Darby! Stacey's like, did he say duchess? So Angel goes, yeah, bottle girl, the duchess. I love a good come up story. Good for her. Good for her. So Ashley arrives at the top of the staircase. She's in her big gown, but there's like these big sparklers at the bottom and she's like afraid to proceed any farther because she thinks she'll be caught on fire.

27:29So she just sort of stalls out mid staircase. Like, come on down. Come on, Ashley. She's like, I can't do it. So she gives a speech. her first bloom was as a wife and a mother to her two amazing counter-sitting sons. And as the seasons have changed and she transitions to the end of her marriage, some people were questioning whether she was even getting a divorce, which now she's doing herself this season. But here she is ready to embrace her second bloom. So thank you for coming tonight. Thank you all. Let's party. so Charisse goes up to one of the party performers who's doing like acrobatics and she's like this is so neat I could get a job doing this what's the prerequisite she goes gymnastics oh that rules me out please show footage of Charisse falling over on one of those hoverboard things like yeah I don't think this is really meant for you Charisse question I have a question about blooms so her first Ashley's first bloom is her children basically and her marriage.

28:35And now this is her second bloom and her kids are still like really young. I don't know why. I feel like there needs to be more space between your blooms. Otherwise it feels like this is still part of the first bloom a little bit. You know, like I get it. It's like a new life. You're divorced, new chapter. But I feel like if she said new chapter, I'd be okay because chapters come one after another. But I feel like when a flower blooms, then it dies and then it goes through a winter and it's like a dark winter and then it blooms again and i feel like she's sort of gone from like the flower died and like bloomed the very next day right i feel like i i that divorce was three years that was a long time but i feel like she was still blooming then she never seemed like like it was never like oh ashley went through a hard time like i feel like karen huger could have a second bloom she went to jail i don't know i feel like thematically like she was dealing with that divorce but i felt like i don't know i felt like she didn't hit her winter right listen she got rid of golem and now she's rich i say throw a party call it whatever the fuck you want to yeah she's like wasting the money that i got out of michael let's call it that you know people would have been like hell yes i guess i guess i mean divorce is is the shit storm.

29:55So I, I listen, I support the party. I just was like, I didn't like the naming of it. I would have liked it to be a new chapter party instead of a second bloom. That's all. Just a, I just wish flowers weren't such wussies, you know, like just fucking be a flower. Like, why do I have to sit around and wait for you all year? It's ridiculous. Yeah. Why do you have to end? You know how much water you're taking just sitting there doing nothing? Like the least you could do. That's why I like a cactus. Like that big penis one behind me. Yeah. There. It's just, you know, The thing is like a flower. It's like, feed me.

30:26Don't feed me. What the fuck do I care? I'm going to stay like this forever. The thing is with the flower, I've got this one flower that I have up, up in my little herb garden area. And it like, it blooms at different parts of the year. And then it goes away for like a few months. And then it comes back. And I feel like every time it comes back, we have to like, be like, Oh my God, the flowers back. Look at it. The flower came back, but it's also kind of like, I feel like I'm being manipulated. It's like, you know, you could be there the whole time. So why don't you just be there the whole time?

30:55That's what I'm saying. Like, stop wasting my time. Why do I have to sit around and wait for you? It's like you, it's like when you're going out with a friend and they make you sit there and wait for them to get ready for an hour. And then they come down and they're wearing the same thing they wore last week and the same hair and the same makeup. And you're like, you didn't even make any effort to do anything new. Like, did you just pick that up off the bedroom floor? You came down the stairs, the same fucking person I went out with last week. And then you have to praise them because they're having their bloom of an outfit.

31:23It's like, you know what, if you're just fucking flowers. The Timo bloom. Okay, so Wendy is wearing a big over-the-top, you know, kind of wedding dress to this thing. And Giselle's like, oh, you're wearing a blue version of my pink dress. I inspired you. She's like, not really. This is archival. Oh, you stole it from me. Archival. So Kierna comes over and she's like, well, Wendy says - They're bantering a little bit about the dress. They're bantering. Kierna sits down while they're bantering. They're just having banter. Yeah, they're just still talking about the dress. And Kierna's like, well, that's being a little rude because I'm sitting here too.

32:04And she's like, uh, I wasn't being wooed. Like, Giselle and I were having a conversation. I'm not trying to be rude to you. She says, well, it was rude. Just to act like I'm not sitting here. Like, I hate that I'm interjecting. What are you doing? Kierna was called boring and now she's going to come in and she's going to just try and start stupid shit over nothing. And I'm actually here for it. I love effort. Yeah. I actually do love the effort. I really do. And also, well, because unlike Amiya, it feels like she's starting a fight. Like, it feels like last year she kept stuff in. And this year she's like, you know what?

32:38I feel this way. I'm going to voice it. And I like that because I feel like it's like a little bit more authentic. That being said, when she sat down, I did rewind a two or three times and someone went, hi. Like when she sat down, they literally said hi to her. and um and so being ridiculous but i'm like i'm like at the same time like wendy does as you said she has a history of kind of icing people out and being kind of an asshole so i was still kind of like you know i'm a little bit on kieran aside for this okay even though it's like a little ridiculous that she's being like you're being rude to me i'm like well you did just sit down and interrupt their conversation they're allowed to finish their thoughts whatever so like i'm usually ready to not be on wendy's side but this whole episode i was like i'm swinging wendy on this one yeah because even give me a moment to be trying yeah she seems to be trying so hard to start a fight and i love that wendy's just looking at her like she knows exactly what she's doing and she's like oh god so now i have to fight with this one oh geez like she's not even into it at all she's just like oh god i'm bored even looking at you i have to have a conversation with you oh god it's also like oh kiana be careful tread carefully because wendy is there are few people I think on Bravo who are as like really good with their words as Wendy.

33:50Like Wendy like destroys people, I think all the time. So Kieran is like, well, I've been wanting to talk to you because I felt extremely taken aback by you. I felt like we have this, you have this thing we do in your friendship that's phony. And like the energy that you and I have when we talk on the phone is not the energy that you'll meet me with on the outside. It's like completely different. Like, you know, remember when I called you, I chatted with you and I said, Hey, Wendy, are you going to the event? And you said, yeah, I'll be there. And I said, okay, I'm going, I'm going to be sponsoring.

34:16And we see an image that shows that there's going to be like a gift bag and Kierna's products will be in the gift bag. And so I guess she was excited about this. So she was telling Wendy this and she's like, you know, and then you were like, great, I'll see you there. But then I get there and you're a speaker. And I was like, in my, in my mind, I was like, I was like being like a little cheerleader to her. And then like, slowly I was like, uh my pom-pom starts to like slowly fall down by my side like um wait is this what you're wait what what yeah wendy says so what's wrong with that well but if i'm sponsoring and you're a speaker then that why wouldn't you share that well maybe because you were basically kind of paying to be there in a way right you're showing up with products to give people and sponsoring the event and she didn't want to upstage you by being like oh you're sponsoring well i'm speaking there maybe or maybe that's giving her too much credit but i don't know maybe she assumed you knew she would be a speaker i don't know yeah maybe she assumed you read the program of the event that you were sponsoring yeah and she's like well i was hyping you though i said you know i didn't just say i'll see you there i said yes come on sponsor like i was hyping you and she says i I don't think it was that moment to say, oh, by the way, I'm speaking, but that's just me.

35:34So I think she was trying to not make you feel bad. She was trying. She was actually, Wendy was being a really big person because she was saying she wasn't like, like literally Kieran. Yes. Kieran was excited about being a sponsor and Wendy did not want to one up her. I actually think that was incredibly gracious thing that Wendy did. And so now hearing this side, I'm already like cringing because it's like, oh, Kieran. I was rooting for you, but now I'm realizing, no, you kind of got this one wrong. So she says, okay, but then, you know, okay, well, here's where I think it looks different. So at the event, no, hey, girl, no, hi.

36:14And she goes, I was on the stage. I was like, what? What would you want me to do? Like, as I'm speaking, stop what I'm doing and wave at you? And she goes, well, if I see my friend in the crowd, I'm going to wave to her. I'm going to do a friendly nod to her or something. And she's like, I was speaking. At this point, I was like, okay. No, sorry, Kierna, you lost. No, I'm team Wendy now. I was cracking up. I was like, getting the full story. I was dying. I was like, you set me up to be anti-Wendy. And it turns out you're the idiot in this situation. So Wendy's like, okay, so this girl's mad. But shouldn't I be mad that she's not celebrating my thing and saying congratulations.

36:57Like, that's weird. So she goes, okay, well, prime example was back at the NAACP Awards. We go to the red carpet. And the first thing you say to me is, oh, hey, did you do your own makeup? You did that. And Wendy just starts laughing and she's like, I'm confused. Okay, but maybe she just said like, oh my God, did you do your own makeup? Like maybe she meant like, it looks nice. Who did it? It could go both ways. That one could go both ways. We need to hear how it was said. because it could be said, I was thinking the same thing. It could have been actually like, oh my God, this looks great. Did you do that yourself?

37:28That looks great. But it also could have been a dig. And I don't know which way it was, but now based on the larger context of Kierna being super sensitive, that Wendy did not stop her speech on stage to like acknowledge Kierna walking in the room. I'm going to assume that Wendy said it nicely, but Kierna was feeling self-conscious about the fact that she did her own makeup, that she sensed negativity in it. Yeah, so she's like, that was shady. I mean, who says that to their friend? And then they show a picture, makeup in question. It's like, don't, don't, don't, Kierna's face, which is, by the way, perfectly fine makeup.

38:09But I love that the editors were like, oh, look at her hideous makeup. So Kierna's like, do you understand where I'm coming from? And she's like, no, because you're reading into things. But if that's how you receive it, then I can accept it. And she's like, I'm just confused. She doesn't know how to be a genuine friend. I mean, I just need clarity. And you're just acting like, I mean, what the hell? So then we cut to Giselle and she's talking to Angel about Ashley, about how sweet she is. And Ashley goes and Giselle goes, oh, yeah, until she's not. So then Ashley is like, well, just don't lie to me, OK?

38:46Because, you know, your breath can stink. which you know some people and she's like goes it happens it happens they got to excuse me and the angel's like well that's a little passive aggressive and stacy's like are you saying my breath stinks she's like well no i didn't say you and she's like well i'm asking you does it stink and then she breathes into ashley's face i forgot about that and ashley's like stop stop i just got rid of golem don't bring it back in my nose there's a lot of bacteria in there that's a lot of bacteria and she's like bacteria and gazelle says i think it's internal i think breath is coming from her lower stomach and here's why i don't think that they're just i don't think what that they're like coming up with a story i think because they're like kind of laughing as they're saying it's like you can see they're like you know there's like a difference between being like shady in your interview versus like laughing because you know you're being so bad by admitting this truth but like you're gonna say it anyway and like they're all laughing she's like what she said it's coming from the lower stomach and Angel's like Linda goes well I don't know what was going on but her mouth definitely greeted me before she greeted me and then Stacy is saying um like you know what you know I want to have a moment alone with you Ashley because I feel like when you two are together it's like a tag team back again i'm like listen stacy you had your moment alone with ashley before and you stormed out yeah and just i was like that's a lie don't start that bullshit stacy because uh she's like i'm gonna talk to you so you guys can't tag team me she's like that is a liar that is a liar and just i was like we're trying to get to know her better uh but her breath does stink and angel goes yeah that was a little tart so they're cackling and high-fiving each other so stacy's like well i hope you can appreciate me showing up even though that you accused me of things that i know are not true i still came here tonight for you jesus told me to okay well something smells fishy and note that i'm not making a dig about your breath when i say that and like i still move past that so like why are you hiding anything well my question is why do you have to be messy well you hide behind the word friend and you have been lying to me since day one Well, you ask me and you talk to me then.

41:14Well, I don't feel like I can come to you. You've been shady to me since day one, Ashley. Well, I don't feel like we can come to you and like authentically with you because you lie. Oh, geez. So then we go back to Wendy and Kay and Wendy's like, I asked you if you did your makeup and I said to them. But then they hear the yelling and she goes, oh, my God, what's happening out there? and ashley's like you can get out of here with your science 11 shoes gallop away okay she starts galloping teresa's like we're missing all the fun ashley loves coming for people's feet yeah so then cory is there that's um was his name cory was that aj i forget but like it was uh it's uh what's her faces um what's her friend's faces friend uh stacy's friend who we met last season and he was great.

42:05He had like one scene last season and we loved him. And so he comes in and he's like okay you guys are too loud. And then Tia's like what is happening out here? And Ashley's like you've been lying. I'm sick of it. I've reached my limit. So Stacey's like well messy Ashley Darby. You're like a little imp.

42:28Imp. Why are you being so messy? You're like a little imp. So good. So Sharice is like, we're missing all the fun. And so Corey's like, okay, what do you guys need to fix this? How are we going to fix this? Do you want to see the divorce papers? Do you need to see the document? And he's like, if she does that today, can we all have a good time together? There's a lovely woman over there doing backbends. Well, I don't handle divorce like you do, Ashley. Ashley's like, well, it doesn't work that way. You're in a full-grown woman. You are a full-grown woman who came into this group and misrepresented yourself.

43:06You get your finger out of my face. You are the devil. Dun, dun, dun. The devil. The devil. So funny. Really hilarious. Really great start to Potomac. Love to see it. So good. Love it. Love to have it back. Laughed my ass off. Great show. Yeah. So great. Thank you all for being here. We've got some Below Deck Med coming up later this week and all a bunch of housewives. and yeah, we'll catch you on the next episode. Oh, and there's crappy hour tonight, by the way. That's going to be happening at 5.30 West Coast, 8.30 East Coast. So join us there, where we'll talk about all the new Bravo Goss, and we also bring some of you guys up on stage, and we can talk about whatever you want to talk about.

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